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Until I Kill You-Season1 Episode 4
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00:08You want to know what happened with me and Melissa?
00:10I killed her in Amsterdam.
00:12I chopped her up and I put her in a canal.
00:14We're requesting that all relatives send us blood samples for potential DNA profiling.
00:19Have you found Melissa?
00:21No sir, we have not.
00:23We won't stop looking for her.
00:25Sweeney's been granted bail.
00:27He'll kill me, I know it.
00:28Get in the house!
00:30I've got some news about Sweeney.
00:32He's out of the country.
00:34At least now it's safe for us to start thinking about getting you discharged.
00:37Would you like to meet again?
00:39With coffee?
00:40Or a meal?
00:42You look cold, do you want to come in and have a cup of tea?
00:46Just for a few minutes then.
00:48What's your name?
00:49Paula.
00:51We think he might have killed a woman and the lawyers are saying we don't have enough to charge him.
00:55We want to build a case against him for his attack on you in December 1994.
01:01And you'll be called to give evidence.
01:03No.
01:05After all that monster did to you, why don't you want to be part of something that will put him
01:11away?
01:11I solemnly declare and affirm, this is my lost fingertip and this is the scar made by the knife that
01:17pierced through my right breast and right lung.
01:21You carry on like this, you'll destroy this case and Sweeney will be back on the street.
01:26He's laughing at you Delia.
01:49Would you like some water?
01:50No, I want wine.
01:55Miss Palmer, in your own time, please tell the court about the events of the night of Thursday the 22nd
02:02of December 1994.
02:04You mean the night he killed me?
02:06If that's how you prefer to put it, yes.
02:14It was the shortest, darkest day of the year.
02:17It was about 6.30pm.
02:18I'd cycled home from work.
02:20There was no one on the street.
02:24I arrived home.
02:25I lent my bike up against the railings, as I always did.
02:27I went to unlock my front door.
02:31I went to pick up my bike.
02:32As I was carrying it in, I heard him call my name.
02:35I looked over my right shoulder and he was coming up the steps.
02:39Who do you mean by he, Miss Palmer?
02:42Him.
02:42John Sweeney.
02:47Even though it has been seven years since the attack, I am still affected by my injuries.
02:52Some days I feel like there's a metal clamp crushing my chest.
02:55And if I am touched even softly on my right breast, I get a horrible feeling like an electric shock.
03:03Both my arms hurt.
03:04I can't grip properly.
03:06I have difficulty lifting anything of any weight.
03:09And on cold days, the metal in my left arm feels like ice.
03:15I don't like looking at my injuries.
03:17I have scars all over my body.
03:18I don't like trying on clothes in shops because I feel like everybody is looking at them.
03:22And I especially hate how my little finger looks.
03:27I used to be proud of my hands, but now when I look at my little finger, it makes me
03:31feel sick.
03:34Thank you, Miss Palmer.
03:36Could you please tell the court what have been the long-term effects of the attack on your mental health?
03:44Oh, well, I have been diagnosed with PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder.
03:49I feel anxious.
03:50I get angry with people.
03:52I have nightmares.
03:53And I have been to see psychiatrists and therapists.
03:57Most of them I have said I need antidepressants, which I have refused because I will not put chemicals into
04:04my body.
04:04Drugs trick you into thinking that everything is all right when it is not.
04:09And do you know, I have lost what little confidence I had.
04:13I feel as though I am in a black hole.
04:24And I am scared.
04:32To wake up in the morning and face a new day because I feel I have lost my future.
04:41You had the option to give your evidence from behind a screen so that the defendant would not be able
04:46to see you.
04:47But you chose not to do that.
04:49Why was that, Miss Palmer?
04:51Was it because you wanted to see Mr. Sweeney?
04:54No.
04:55Why should I hide from him?
04:56I am not scared of him.
04:57You invited Mr. Sweeney to live in your home.
05:00You were intimate with him for almost four years.
05:04Can you tell me why?
05:05Because I am soft and stupid and I couldn't see through him.
05:08Did you love Mr. Sweeney, Miss Palmer?
05:11No, I did not.
05:12I have never loved anyone.
05:13You told Barstock Row Police that Mr. Sweeney had tied you to a bed and repeatedly raped you.
05:19That's correct, isn't it?
05:22Yes.
05:23And yet after your ordeal, when the police offered to install you in refuge accommodation in King's Cross, you refused.
05:30Because King's Cross is full of drug addicts and prostitutes.
05:35Or was it because you still had feelings for Mr. Sweeney?
05:37No.
05:39Did you hope that he might return to your flat so that you could resume your consensually sadomasochistic relationship?
05:45No, that is not...
05:52Why do you have to twist everything and make me out to be a liar?
05:59It is unnecessary and it is dishonest.
06:07Why is the law allowed to treat people like this?
06:12You see, because I just want to be left alone.
06:22Well done, Delia.
06:24Well done.
06:26Uh, I wasn't there.
06:28I was 200 miles away in Scalmersdale.
06:30Delia Barmer's lying because she's got a grudge against me.
06:33What about Miss Barmer's neighbour, Joshua Wilson?
06:36He identified you as a person he saw attacking her.
06:40Yeah, he's mistaken.
06:43In March last year, after your arrest, police searched your flat at Sicily Crescent and discovered an artist's portfolio containing
06:51201 of your drawings.
06:53Two of those drawings are of particular relevance to your attempted murder of Delia Barmer.
06:58Well, I didn't attempt to murder Delia Barmer.
07:00Will the jury please turn to picture exhibit page five in the bundle?
07:09This drawing shows a boot about to crush a cockroach.
07:13Did you do this drawing, Mr. Sweeney?
07:16Yeah.
07:16Do you remember if it was before the attack on Delia Barmer on the 22nd of December 1994 or after?
07:22I've just told you I didn't attack Delia Barmer so it's impossible to say if it was before or after.
07:27In the bottom right-hand corner are the words a cornered cockroach.
07:30Is this your handwriting, Mr. Sweeney?
07:42Yes, I think it is.
07:43Yes.
07:45The cockroach has a woman's head.
07:47Who is this woman, Mr. Sweeney?
07:49Delia Barmer.
07:51Picture exhibit page six.
07:55This is an enlarged detail of the same drawing angle to make it easier to read.
08:01What you are looking at, ladies and gentlemen, is the front section of the boot.
08:05As can be seen, there are words clearly visible on it.
08:08Mr. Sweeney, would you please read what is written?
08:19Mr. Sweeney?
08:25May you never die until I kill you.
08:28May you never die until I kill you.
08:33What point were you making by writing those words on the boot?
08:36No point.
08:39Just black humour.
08:44Moving on.
08:45Page seven in the bundle.
08:47This drawing shows a section of a man's body.
08:50The man is wearing jeans and a belt.
08:52Tucked inside the belt is an axe with blood clearly visible on the blade.
08:57Blood is dripping from the blade onto a bloody scalp fringed with blonde hair.
09:01Did you do this drawing, Mr. Sweeney?
09:03Yes.
09:03Do you remember when you drew it?
09:05No.
09:06I'd like to draw the jury's attention to the two patches of white Tipex correction fluid on the blade of
09:11the axe.
09:13Using ultraviolet light, scientists were able to discover words written beneath the Tipex.
09:19Please turn to picture exhibit page eight.
09:24Under the first patch of Tipex is a date of birth, 13th of October, 1956.
09:31Under the second patch, the words made in Liverpool.
09:34Where were you born, Mr. Sweeney?
09:35I was born in Kirkdale, you know that.
09:37An area of Liverpool?
09:39Yes.
09:39Yes.
09:39And what is your date of birth?
09:4213th of October, 1956.
09:44So the words you Tipexed over refer to yourself?
09:47I didn't write that.
09:48I didn't put Tipex on that.
09:49I didn't write that.
09:50Yeah.
09:51In the opinion of the handwriting expert that we consulted, it is your writing.
09:57Let us turn back now to page seven.
10:01As can be seen, there is a further patch of Tipex at the bottom of the page.
10:05Ultraviolet Light revealed more writing.
10:08Please turn to page nine in the bundle.
10:13December 94.
10:16The very month and year Delia Barmer was subjected to a near-fatal attack.
10:21I didn't attack Miss Barmer.
10:23I didn't write this, and I certainly didn't put Tipex on it.
10:26You do admit doing this drawing?
10:28Yes!
10:29Of a man with a bloody axe.
10:31The very weapon used in the attack on Delia Barmer,
10:35an extraordinary coincidence.
10:37Would you not agree, Mr Sweeney?
10:38Well, that's what coincidences are, isn't it?
10:39Eh? Extraordinary.
10:43Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
10:46in a moment you'll go out and consider your verdicts.
10:49The only verdicts that I can accept are ones in which you are all agreed.
11:16The jury has been in retirement for nine hours and forty minutes.
11:21Mr Fallon, have you reached a verdict on which you are all agreed?
11:25We have.
11:26Is that in relation to all four counts?
11:28Yes.
11:30On count one of the indictment, the attempted murder of Delia Barmer,
11:34do you find the defendant, John Patrick Sweeney, guilty or not guilty?
11:40Guilty.
11:40You fucking idiot!
11:41You're all fucking idiots!
11:51Well, Christine says his sentencing will be in three weeks.
11:55The whole world is laughing at me.
11:59No one's laughing at you.
12:03No one with a shred of decency could look at this and make a judgement about you.
12:09The only person this vile drawing says anything about is him.
12:15It's my face, David.
12:17It's not your face.
12:20This is your face.
12:21It's not your face.
12:42You're starting early.
12:57To John Patrick Sweeney, spending the rest of his life behind bars.
13:04To the damn police releasing a box of cockroaches in his fucking cell.
13:34Four life sentences.
13:37One for the attempted murder.
13:38One each for the firearms offences.
13:41Four life sentences?
13:42Oh, fantastic.
13:43Yeah, we couldn't have done it without you, Delia.
13:46Well, will you join us for a glass of champagne, Chris?
13:48Oh, any excuse.
13:52Come on, Delia, come on.
13:57So, he'll spend the rest of his life in jail.
14:02Uh, well...
14:03Actually, the, um...
14:09The judge ruled that he'll be eligible for parole in nine years.
14:14What was that?
14:21Four life sentences.
14:25And he's up for parole in nine years.
14:29Oh, that's insane.
14:30Honestly, none of us can make head or tail of it.
14:33It's the same as fucking shit is what it is.
14:44I'm sorry.
14:45No.
14:46No, I'm sorry, David.
14:48Well, it's not your fault.
14:49You're not the bloody judge.
14:52Well, this'll probably be my last visit.
14:55Oh.
14:55No.
14:56Yeah, the rules are very clear on FLO exit strategies.
15:00Unless Delia actually requests to see me, which I don't see happening.
15:05Um, I'll be out of her hair now.
15:07Oh.
15:08I wonder what my exit strategy should be.
15:13Seriously?
15:15No, no.
15:17Oh.
15:17No, no, no.
15:17Delia and I...
15:19We're in this for the long haul.
15:22We've...
15:23found the teeth that match each other's wounds.
15:28We're fine.
15:29We're fine.
15:30Adios, amiga.
16:01Sir John Stephens, police commissioner.
16:04What's this?
16:04Police and the courts shouldn't be allowed.
16:06to get away with treating victims like they treated me.
16:13Oh, come on, Delia, now.
16:15Stop, eh?
16:17It's over, sweetheart.
16:21Let's go out.
16:22I don't want to go out.
16:22My chest hurts and it's very, very cold.
16:24All right, well, then, let's get a takeaway.
16:27What do you want?
16:28Indian, Chinese?
16:29Do you know, David, we can't afford takeaways.
16:30It's not that you're taking so much time off.
16:32For Christ's sake, Delia, we're not fucking paupers for...
16:46I don't care.
16:53There's no problem.
16:53You're not fucking paupers for me.
16:54I don't want to go out.
16:55Oh, I don't want to go out.
16:56I don't want to go out.
16:56I don't need to go out.
16:56Yeah, I don't want to go out.
16:57I don't want to go out.
17:16David Blunkett?
17:17Yes, Sir John Dam Stevens got some flunky to reply, so I'm going over his head.
17:22The letter I received from the Metropolitan Police was an insult.
17:25I did not want to assist the law. I was forced to.
17:29Them thanking me for testifying totally misses the point.
17:33You might as well torture someone, then thank them for letting you torture them.
17:38I do not accept their thanks. The police can stick their thanks up their...
17:43Oh yeah, that'll work.
18:14Oh my God.
18:17Oh my God.
18:42You want to go out later?
18:46Yeah, of course.
19:05I wish I'd known you before.
19:08Before what?
19:09What, Sweeney? The police? The trial?
19:13It's a stupid thing to say, David. There's no point wishing for something that never was.
19:22When the defence barrister asked if you still loved Sweeney, you said...
19:27...you never really loved anyone. Is that really true?
19:31You know that about me, David. I don't go in for any of that mushy stuff, so...
19:36It's love, Delia. It's not mushy stuff.
19:38Oh, for...
19:54So, now you're not giving me any wine because you're feeling sorry for yourself?
19:58I'm paying for it.
20:02Oh!
20:03Now look what you've done!
20:04Keep your voice down.
20:05No, no! Keep my fucking voice down, David!
20:08Do you know I made a spectacle of myself in the Old Bailey?
20:11You think I care about making a spectacle of myself?
20:15In a Greek fucking restaurant!
20:24Sorry.
20:26I'm sorry.
20:30I'm sorry!
20:31I'm sorry!
20:33I'm sorry!
20:34I'm sorry!
20:35Daddy, I'm sorry!
20:39Daddy, I'm sorry!
20:42I'm sorry!
20:44I'm sorry!
20:44Yeah, it's always the same, huh?
20:47Whoa!
20:48Everything all right?
20:49Where are you off to in such a hurry?
20:51Home.
20:52Hold on my way!
20:53Hold on a moment!
20:54Have you been drinking, madam?
20:55Yes!
20:56I don't...
20:57I don't know what business it is of yours.
20:59You American?
21:01No, I'm not fucking American!
21:05I was not drunk and disorderly.
21:08I was walking home.
21:09I have not done anything wrong.
21:12What's your name?
21:15Celia Balmer.
21:16I used to live in Lavinia Gardens.
21:17I'm in your computer.
21:18The 22nd of December, 1994.
21:20I...
21:21I was attacked with an axe.
21:23I nearly died.
21:24There was a trial at the Old Bailey last year.
21:26How do you spell Balmer?
21:29B...
21:31B...
21:31A...
21:32L...
21:33M...
21:34E...
21:36R...
21:37E...
21:44PHONE RINGS
22:27Delia Barmer?
22:29Has she been here all night?
22:31Yeah.
22:33Did you not even check her on the system?
22:35She doesn't have a record.
22:37Not as an offender.
22:39As a victim.
22:47I'm sorry about the night you had, Delia.
22:51You're free to go.
22:54I'll have a car run you home.
22:56I'm not getting in a fucking police car.
23:09Delia.
23:09Oh, thank Christ.
23:10Where have you been?
23:11I've been wearing sick.
23:12I've been wandering the streets half the night looking for you.
23:14Yeah, well, I was arrested, so...
23:16What?
23:17What happened?
23:19I don't want to talk about it.
23:21I just want to sleep.
23:22Do you want me to come in with you?
23:22It's not working between us, David.
23:25We're holding on to something that's gone.
23:31Well, do you want to talk about that?
23:35I mean, is there any point?
23:37Because I'll only get angry.
23:44Right, bye then, David.
24:05David.
24:10Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid bitch.
25:02Yes.
25:08Okay, bye.
25:11Hi, sorry to interrupt.
25:13Mm-hmm.
25:14I'm on Lincoln Ward, and I'm a qualified therapeutic masseuse, and I was just wondering if that
25:23might be something that's useful here, or...?
25:27Absolutely, but I'm afraid we don't have the budget.
25:30All right.
25:31I can work for free.
25:53Hi, uh, my name's Delia.
25:56My sister said you'd like a cranial massage.
26:15You know, whenever I used to get shampoo at the hairdressers, I'd always ask for the
26:19extra conditioner just to make it last longer.
26:23You are good, Delia.
26:26Yeah, well, my lecturer at college said I was the best in the class.
26:30My other students said I pressed too hard.
26:32Well, they were obviously idiots.
26:37So, is there a Mr. Delia at home?
26:38Nope.
26:40What?
26:40You?
26:41So petite and cute.
26:44Some lucky fella's missing out.
26:46Delia, it's after 11.
26:47Go away, Tessa.
26:48Delia is my handmaiden.
26:50Isn't that right, Delia?
26:59Good.
27:02Good.
27:02Good.
27:16Good.
27:20Good.
27:21Oh, yeah.
27:21Oh.
27:22Oh.
27:35Oh.
27:42Delia.
27:43Mom, this is the lady with the magic fingers.
27:46Thanks for looking after him.
27:49You're leaving us?
27:50Yeah.
27:50For a bit.
27:51I've hit a good patch.
27:52So, Mum is going to pamper me at home.
27:56Can you take care of yourself, Delia?
27:58Yeah.
28:01Thanks for making this shit bearable.
28:08Come on, you. Let's get you home.
28:09Let's do it.
28:11Thanks so much.
28:23Bye.
28:24Bye.
28:29Bye.
28:40Bye, bye.
28:44Bye.
28:45Bye, bye.
28:45Bye.
28:49Barnes-Green, Serious Crime Command, D.I. Steve Smith speaking.
28:52Hi, this is Detective Astrid de Vries, MCID.
28:56Scotland Yard gave me your number.
28:59I understand that your department investigated the unsolved murder of a woman, Paula Fields.
29:06Most of the team have moved on, but yes, the Paula Fields investigation was based here.
29:10How can I help?
29:12I've got some news on the prime suspect in that case.
29:15John Sweeney.
29:18We've identified the remains of a former girlfriend of his, a young American woman, Melissa Halstead.
29:26A few weeks ago, a cold case team in Rotterdam found a tissue sample in storage of an unidentified female
29:33body found in a bag in a canal in Rotterdam in 1990.
29:37We just got a DNA match with blood supplied by Melissa's family back in 1995.
29:49Melissa Halstead's remains have been lying in Rotterdam's municipal cemetery since 1990.
29:55I was present at the exhumation.
30:00The condition of the body might be of interest to you.
30:03Her head, hands and feet had been removed.
30:06Same as Paula Fields.
30:08Okay, okay.
30:11We need to figure out how to work together on this.
30:15John Sweeney has served almost six years of his nine-year sentence.
30:20Add to that the months he was on remand.
30:22And the reality is, he could be out in two years.
30:27That's at least how long an investigation of this magnitude will take.
30:30And we're not helped by the fact that neither us nor the Dutch have a shred of forensic evidence linking
30:35Sweeney to the murders of Melissa Halstead or Paula Fields.
30:40Well, on, uh, Melissa Halstead, her dismembered remains were found in a canal in Rotterdam on May the 3rd, 1990,
30:48but only recently identified, 19 years later.
30:53Now, on Paula Fields, her dismembered remains were found in Regent's Canal on the 19th of February, 2001.
31:01We can connect Sweeney to the two women, various recorded eyewitness accounts, but no connection with their murders.
31:08However, what are the chances of two women having relationships with the same man, both ending up murdered, dismembered, heads,
31:16hands, feet removed, put in bags and dumped in canals?
31:20Then there's this woman.
31:23Delia Barmer, the survivor, the girlfriend who came between Melissa and Paula, the woman whose attempted murder Sweeney is currently
31:33doing time for.
31:35On the 31st of May, 1994, Delia Barmer made a statement to Barstock Road Police in which she said Sweeney
31:44told her he murdered Melissa.
31:47That evidence has never been put before a jury.
32:00Delia Barmer?
32:20Delia Barmer?
32:21Delia Barmer, why are you here?
32:22We're reopening the investigation into the murders of Melissa Halstead and Paula Fields and we intend to charge John Sweeney
32:28with both offences, but it's a given. He'll plead not guilty.
32:34No shit.
32:36We know the trial in 2001 was very difficult for you, but if we can get the case to court,
32:42we'd greatly appreciate it if you would consent to give evidence.
32:46It would be much easier this time. You'd just have to talk about what he told you he did to
32:51Melissa.
32:52No, no.
32:55That's all.
32:55No.
33:09We think it's a bad idea to put Delia Barmer on the stand. Bad for us, but very bad for
33:16her.
33:17You told her Sweeney's coming up for parole?
33:20Yeah.
33:21I thought she'd relish the opportunity to testify against him.
33:24It's not about that for her. She thought her ordeal was over. She just wants to be done with all
33:29this. She's that terrified of being cross-examined again.
33:32We want to suggest a compromise. The Dutch have requested a videotaped statement of Delia talking about Sweeney's Melissa confession.
33:39If she agrees to it, perhaps we could apply to the judge to let the video statement serve as her
33:44evidence in the trial.
33:46That way the jury get to see her, but she avoids the ordeal of being cross-examined live.
33:51Live is what we need. Our case against Sweeney is still only circumstantial.
33:56The jury needs to see Delia Barmer in real time, telling them what Sweeney told her he did to Melissa
34:04Halstead.
34:06Sorry, boss. You've got to see this.
34:09Merseyside police conducted a search on Sweeney's family home.
34:12They found this lock in the original police evidence bags.
34:15It was restored to the family in 2001 after he was convicted, but no-one thought to hang onto it
34:19because the case wasn't about Melissa.
34:22Look at this.
34:23A scratch card?
34:24It's only over, boss.
34:25We've confirmed that's Sweeney's handwriting.
34:30Poor old Melissa. Chopped her up in bits. Food to feed the fish. Amsterdam was the pits.
34:39And that's not all?
34:42He's even dated them.
34:46Amsterdam, Easter 1990.
34:51Still think we need Delia in court to win this thing?
34:56Videotape her statement.
34:58We'll talk to the judge.
34:59See if we can keep her out of court.
35:01Yes.
35:15Delia, please tell us what Don Sweeney told you during the spring bank holiday of 1994.
35:23No.
35:25I'm going to talk about Saturday the 29th of June, 2002, when I was wrongfully arrested by Barstock Road Police
35:39for being drunk and disorderly.
35:42A policeman.
35:43A policeman, twice my size, put handcuffs on me and then shoved me into a police van.
35:52I spent the whole fucking night in a dirty, smelly police cell.
36:02Now, I wrote to the station superintendent and when he wrote back to me, he didn't even fucking apologize.
36:15He said what had happened to me was an unfortunate incident and he tried to shut me up with a
36:23cheque for £42.50 for the dry cleaning of my suede coat that they fucking ruined!
36:31We didn't know she was intoxicated until she let rip for the cameras.
36:35It's not a problem though, is it boss? Not knowing we've got the photos and the scratch card and everything.
36:39There's been a development. Sweeney knows that we don't intend to put Delia on the stand.
36:45He's instructed his counsel to go back to the judge and insist that she be compelled to testify.
36:51Given the seriousness of the charges against him, the judge has granted his request.
36:58Yeah, well, I knew the creep wasn't finished with me. I knew we'd find some way of stamping off to
37:04what little life I have left.
37:09But it's not the end of the road. We've got one card up our sleeve where we can apply for
37:13a medical exemption.
37:14We'd get you to see a forensic psychiatrist, with your permission, obviously, and see if we can get you declared
37:20unfit to give evidence.
37:23That's my only way out of this.
37:27Seeing a shrink who'll say how nuts I am.
37:32Well, yes, but I wouldn't have put it that way myself, but yes.
37:36Well, what choice do I have? I can't leave the country because my passport's expired, so I'm trapped yet again.
37:42Delia, medical exemptions aren't easy to get, so if the psychiatrist thinks you're even slightly intoxicated,
37:49that'll go into the report to the judge and it'll be game over.
37:53You mustn't drink any alcohol before the session.
37:56Oh, no, I'll have to have a drink, otherwise I'll be a mess.
37:58But a sober mess, and that'll count in your favour.
38:03No.
38:31Yes, sir.
38:32What do I have to take my mind?
38:32I'll have to take my mind.
38:32So I let her.
38:54Oh, shit.
38:56Come on, Delia.
39:07I bought two bottles of wine and a bottle of brandy last night and I didn't touch a drop.
39:14So no, I feel dreadful.
39:24Are you clear about the purpose of this session, Delia?
39:27Yep.
39:29You're going to decide whether or not I'm mentally fit to give evidence in court.
39:51When I was lying on the steps thinking I was about to die, I thought of my mom and dad.
40:08And my brother Stuart, they were alive then, mom and dad.
40:13They died a couple of years ago, within a year of each other.
40:16And I thought of them each.
40:30And how they were so far away.
40:41I thought about how I would never see them again and how they would never see me.
41:01And I, I, I, I clung to that memory and their faces because I wanted my last thoughts
41:15to be only of them.
41:36Can I go now?
41:41Of course you can.
41:46But, there's still 30 minutes left on the clock, Delia.
41:50Paid for by the mat.
41:54If there's anything you want to talk about, anything at all, now might be a good time.
42:02I just want to go home.
42:06The only thing holding her together is her anger.
42:10If her fear becomes greater than her anger, which is very close to where she is now, I
42:16think there's a real possibility she might try to take her own life.
42:38Dr. Howes will tell the judge that under no circumstances should you be compelled to testify.
42:44It's over.
42:56It was like he was letting out something that he'd been keeping deep inside.
43:03He told me that he killed Melissa in Amsterdam and that he sat with her body for three days.
43:11He didn't say how he killed her.
43:14He said he had cut her up and put her in a bag and threw her in a canal.
43:25Yeah, two life sentences, um, no parole this time.
43:28It's what they call here a, uh, whole life tariff.
43:31So, you know, he'll spend the rest of his life in jail.
43:36Oh, it's about goddamn time.
43:39How do you feel, Delia?
43:41Oh, I don't know.
43:45Not much of anything.
43:46Not much of anything.
43:48You know, they, uh, told me that he refused to leave his cell when they wrote out the verdict.
43:54Well, he must have been real mad.
43:57Mm-hmm.
43:58Good riddance, I say.
44:02You won, Delia.
44:04He tried to kill you and he couldn't because you were too strong.
44:12I...
44:13I don't know if, uh, strength has much to do with it, Stu.
44:17Yes, it did.
44:19You were always the strong one in our family.
44:25You think that?
44:27I know it.
44:29You remember when we first moved to Detroit in 64 and there was that tornado and the neighbor's house moved
44:38off its foundations?
44:40Yeah, what about it?
44:42Dad was scared and he wanted us all to go into the basement.
44:46You wanted to stay upstairs and watch the storm.
44:54Yeah, I remember.
45:00I enjoyed it.
45:04You did.
45:05We were all scared.
45:08But not you.
45:28Maybe not...
45:33It's just a little shone.
45:34It was gonna be a party.
45:35Yes, it was a little shone.
45:37I'm not sure but.
45:44Nobody watched it.
45:45It's a little shone.
45:46And it's a little shoneal.
45:48That's a little shone.
45:48I mean the beauty of the planet.
45:48Who was diving into the planet.
45:48I'm on my own planet.
45:48And I saw this.
45:50I was like a little shit.
45:50But I got into it.
45:52And I saw this.
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