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00:07Bruce Lee faces a real dilemma.
00:09He's on the verge of stardom in the United States
00:12with a projected TV series on the horizon,
00:15but he's just achieved super stardom as a film actor here in Hong Kong.
00:19So what does he choose, the East or the West?
00:22It's the kind of problem most budding movie actors would welcome.
00:27It's the Pierre Burton Show.
00:30The program that comes to you from the major capitals of the world.
00:33This edition comes to you from Hong Kong.
00:37And Pierre's guest is the man who taught karate, judo, and Chinese boxing
00:41to James Garner, Steve McQueen, Lee Marvin, and James Coburn.
00:46The newest Mandarin superstar,
00:48known in the West for his appearances in Batman,
00:51The Green Hornet, Ironside, and Long Street.
00:54His name is Bruce Lee, and he doesn't even speak Mandarin.
00:58And here's Pierre.
01:00Well, how can you play in Mandarin movies if you don't even speak Mandarin?
01:04How do you do that?
01:05Well, first of all, I speak only Cantonese.
01:08Yeah.
01:09So, I mean, there is quite a difference as far as pronunciation and things like that going.
01:14So somebody else's voice is used, right?
01:16Definitely, definitely.
01:18You just make the words.
01:19Doesn't that sound strange when you go to the movies,
01:21especially in Hong Kong, in your own town,
01:24and you see yourself with somebody else's voice?
01:26Well, not really, you see,
01:27because most of the Mandarin pictures done here are dubbed anyway.
01:31They're dubbed anyway.
01:32Anyway, I mean, disregard.
01:33I mean, they shoot without sound.
01:36So it doesn't, you know, make any difference.
01:37Your lips never quite make the right words, do they?
01:39Yeah, well, that's where the difficulty lies, you see.
01:42I mean, in order to,
01:43because the Cantonese have a different way of saying things,
01:46you know, I mean, different from the Mandarin.
01:47Yeah.
01:47So I have to find, like, something similar to that
01:51and keep a kind of a feeling going behind that,
01:54something that matching the Mandarin deal.
01:57Like the old silent days.
01:58Does it sound complicated?
01:59Like the old silent days.
02:00But I gather in the movies made here,
02:03the dialogue is pretty stilted anyway.
02:05Yeah, I agree with you.
02:06I mean, see, to me, a motion picture is motion.
02:10Yeah.
02:10I mean, you've got to keep the dialogue down to the minimum.
02:16Did you go to,
02:17did you look at many Mandarin movies
02:18before you started playing in the first place?
02:21Yes, yes.
02:21What did you think of them when you saw them?
02:25Quality-wise, I mean, I have to admit
02:27that it's not quite up to the standard.
02:31However, it is growing
02:33and it is getting higher and higher
02:35and going to toward that standard
02:38than what I would term quality.
02:39They say the secret of your success
02:42in that movie, The Big Boss,
02:45which was such a success here
02:46and rocketed you to stardom in Asia,
02:48was that you did your own fighting.
02:52As an expert in the various martial arts in China,
02:56what did you think of the fighting that you saw
02:58in the movies that you studied
02:59before you became a star?
03:02Well, I mean, definitely in the beginning,
03:05I had no intention whatsoever
03:07that what I was practicing
03:10and what I'm still practicing now
03:12would lead to this to begin with.
03:15But martial art has a very, very deep meaning
03:19as far as my life is concerned
03:21because as an actor,
03:25as a martial artist,
03:27as a human being,
03:29all these I have learned
03:31from martial art.
03:32Maybe for our audience
03:33who doesn't know what it means,
03:35you might explain exactly
03:36what you mean by martial art.
03:38Right.
03:39Martial art include
03:40all the combative arts
03:42like karate or karate,
03:45judo,
03:46Chinese kung fu
03:47or Chinese boxing,
03:49whatever you call it,
03:50all those.
03:51You see, like aikido,
03:53I can go on and on and on.
03:54But it's a combative form of fighting.
03:57I mean, it's not...
03:58Some of them became sport,
04:01but some of them are still not.
04:03I mean, they use, for instance,
04:04kicking to the groin,
04:06jabbing fingers at the eyes
04:07and things like that.
04:09No wonder you're successful
04:10in that.
04:11Chinese movies are full
04:12of this kind of action anyway.
04:13They needed a guy like you could...
04:15Violence, man.
04:16So you didn't have to use a double
04:17when you moved
04:18into the motion picture world here.
04:19You did it all yourself.
04:21Can you break five or six pieces
04:23of wood with your hand
04:24or your foot?
04:24I'll probably break
04:25my hand in the foot.
04:29But tell me a little bit...
04:31You set up a school
04:32in Hollywood, didn't you,
04:33for people like James Garner
04:35and Steve McQueen
04:36and the others.
04:37Yes.
04:38Why would they want
04:39to learn Chinese martial art?
04:40Because of a movie role?
04:42Not really.
04:44Most of them, you see,
04:46to me,
04:47at least the way
04:48that when I teach it,
04:51all type of knowledge
04:52ultimately means
04:53self-knowledge.
04:56Mm-hmm.
04:56So therefore,
04:57they are coming in to...
04:59I mean,
04:59and ask me to teach them
05:01not so much
05:02of how to defend themselves
05:03or how to do somebody in.
05:06Rather,
05:07they want to learn
05:08to express themselves
05:09through some movement,
05:11be it anger,
05:13be it determination,
05:15or whatsoever.
05:17So in other words,
05:18what I'm saying therefore
05:19is that he is paying me
05:22to show him
05:24in combative form
05:25the art of expressing
05:27the human body.
05:28Which is acting,
05:29in a sense, isn't it?
05:31Well,
05:32or it would be useful too
05:33for an actor to have that.
05:35I mean,
05:36I might,
05:36it might sound too philosophical,
05:39but it's acting, acting,
05:40or acting, unacting.
05:42If you...
05:43You've lost me.
05:44I have, right?
05:46So what I'm saying,
05:47actually, you see,
05:48I mean,
05:49it's a combination of both.
05:50I mean,
05:51here it is,
05:52the natural instinct,
05:53and here is control.
05:55You are to combine
05:56the two in harmony,
05:58not,
05:59if you have one
06:00to the extreme,
06:02you will be very
06:02unscientific.
06:04If you have another
06:05to the extreme,
06:06you become all of a sudden
06:08a mechanical man,
06:09no longer a human being.
06:11So you,
06:12it is a successful
06:13combination of both.
06:14So therefore,
06:15it is not only,
06:16I mean,
06:17so therefore,
06:17it's not pure naturalness
06:19or unnaturalness.
06:21The ideal is unnatural naturalness
06:24or natural unnaturalness.
06:27Yin-yang, eh?
06:28Right, man,
06:29that's it.
06:31Yeah,
06:31one of your students,
06:33James Coburn,
06:34played in a movie
06:35called Iron Man Flint
06:37in which he used karate.
06:39Is that what he learned
06:39from you?
06:40He learned it after.
06:42Oh, he went?
06:44Oh, yeah.
06:44After he played
06:45in Iron Man.
06:45Right, right.
06:46You see,
06:47actually,
06:47I do not teach,
06:48you know,
06:49karate
06:49because I do not
06:50believe in styles anymore.
06:53I mean,
06:53I do not believe
06:55that there is such thing
06:56as like Chinese way
06:58of fighting
06:59or the Japanese way
07:01of fighting
07:02or whatever way
07:03of fighting
07:04because unless human beings
07:07have three arms
07:08and four legs,
07:09we will have
07:10a different form
07:10of fighting.
07:11But basically,
07:13we have only two hands
07:13and two feet.
07:15So styles tends
07:16to not only separate man,
07:20you know,
07:20because they have
07:21their own doctrines
07:22and then the doctrine
07:23became the gospel truth,
07:24you know,
07:25that you cannot change,
07:26you know.
07:27And,
07:28but if you do not
07:29have styles,
07:29if you just say,
07:30well,
07:30here I am,
07:31you know,
07:32as a human being,
07:34how can I express myself
07:37totally and completely?
07:38Now,
07:39that way,
07:40you won't create a style
07:42because style
07:43is a crystallization,
07:44you know.
07:44I mean,
07:45that way,
07:45it's a process
07:46of continuing growth.
07:48You talk about
07:49Chinese boxing.
07:50How does it differ
07:51from, say,
07:52our kind of boxing?
07:53Well,
07:54first,
07:54we use the feet.
07:55Uh-huh,
07:56that's the start.
07:56And then we use the elbow.
07:59Use the thumb, too?
08:01You name it, man.
08:02Use it all.
08:03You have to,
08:04you see,
08:04because,
08:04I mean,
08:05that is the expression
08:06of the human body.
08:08I mean,
08:08everything.
08:09I mean,
08:09you know,
08:10not just the hand.
08:11And when you're talking
08:12about combat,
08:13well,
08:14I mean,
08:14if it is a sport,
08:16now you're talking
08:16about something else,
08:17you have regulations,
08:18you have rules,
08:19but when you're talking
08:20about fighting
08:21as it is,
08:23with no rules,
08:24well,
08:25then,
08:25baby,
08:25you better train
08:26every part of your body.
08:28And when you do punch,
08:30now I'm leaning forward
08:30a little bit,
08:31hoping not to hurt
08:32any camera angle,
08:34I mean,
08:35you've got to put
08:35the whole hip into it
08:37and snap it
08:38and get all your energy
08:40in there
08:40and make this
08:42into a weapon.
08:43I don't want to
08:43tangle you
08:44in any dark.
08:45No,
08:46you came at me
08:47pretty fast there.
08:48What is the difference
08:49between Chinese boxing
08:51and what we see
08:52these young men
08:52doing at 8 o'clock
08:53every morning
08:54on the rooftops
08:55in the parks
08:55called shadow boxing,
08:56which they're always...
08:57Well,
08:58actually,
08:58you see,
08:59that is part
09:00of Chinese boxing.
09:02It is.
09:02There are so many schools.
09:05Different schools.
09:05Everybody here
09:05seems to be,
09:06you know,
09:06going like this
09:07all the time.
09:08Well,
09:09that's good.
09:10I mean,
09:10I'm very glad.
09:11I'm very glad
09:12to see that
09:13because at least
09:14somebody is
09:16caring for their own body.
09:18Right?
09:19Yeah.
09:19I mean,
09:19that's a good sign.
09:20Well,
09:21it's a kind of a slow
09:22form of exercise
09:23which is called
09:24tai chi chuan.
09:25I'm speaking Mandarin
09:27just now.
09:28Yeah.
09:28Cantonese,
09:29tai chi chuan.
09:30Okay?
09:31I see.
09:31And it's more
09:33of an exercise
09:33for the elderly,
09:36not so much
09:36for the young.
09:37Give me a demonstration.
09:38Show me.
09:38Can you do a little bit
09:39of it?
09:39I mean,
09:40hand-wise,
09:41it's very slow.
09:42Oh, is it?
09:43And you push it out
09:44but all the time
09:45you are keeping
09:45the continuity going.
09:47Banding,
09:49stretching,
09:51everything.
09:51You know,
09:52suppose,
09:52you know,
09:52I mean,
09:52you just keep it moving.
09:54It's like a ballet dancer there.
09:55Yeah, it is.
09:56I mean,
09:56to them,
09:57you see,
09:57the idea is
09:58running water
09:59never grows
10:00stale.
10:00So you gotta just
10:01keep on flowing.
10:03Of all your students,
10:05famous,
10:05James Garner,
10:06Steve McQueen,
10:07Lee Marvin,
10:08James Coburn,
10:09Roman Polanski,
10:10which was the best,
10:11who adapted best
10:12to this oriental form
10:14of exercise
10:14and defense?
10:16Well,
10:16um,
10:19depending,
10:19okay?
10:20Now,
10:20as a fighter,
10:22Steve,
10:22Steve McQueen,
10:24now,
10:25he is good
10:26in that department
10:26because that son
10:27of a gun
10:28got the
10:30toughness in him.
10:31You see it on the screen.
10:32I mean,
10:33he would say,
10:33all right,
10:34baby,
10:34here I am,
10:35man,
10:35you know,
10:36and he'll do it.
10:37Yeah.
10:38Now,
10:38James Coburn
10:39is a peace-loving man.
10:41I met him.
10:42Right?
10:43I mean,
10:43you've met him.
10:43I mean,
10:44he's really,
10:44really nice.
10:46I mean,
10:46super mellow
10:48and all that.
10:49I mean,
10:49you know,
10:49I mean,
10:50now,
10:50he appreciates
10:52the philosophical
10:53part of it.
10:54Therefore,
10:54his understanding
10:55of it
10:56is deeper
10:56than Steve.
10:57So,
10:58it's really hard
10:58to say.
10:59You see what
10:59I'm saying now?
11:00I see.
11:01I mean,
11:01it's different.
11:03that's,
11:04I mean,
11:04depending on
11:04what you see
11:06in it.
11:08Interesting.
11:09We don't,
11:10in our world,
11:11and haven't
11:12since the days
11:13of the Greeks
11:13who did,
11:15combine philosophy
11:16and art
11:16with sport.
11:18But,
11:18quite clearly,
11:19the oriental
11:20attitudes
11:20of the three
11:22are facets
11:22of the same
11:23things.
11:24Man,
11:24listen,
11:25you see,
11:25really,
11:27to me,
11:28okay,
11:28to me,
11:30ultimately,
11:31martial art
11:31means honestly
11:34expressing yourself.
11:35Now,
11:35it is very
11:36difficult to do.
11:38I mean,
11:38it is easy
11:39for me
11:39to put on
11:40a show
11:40and be cocky
11:41and be flooded
11:43with a cocky
11:44feeling
11:44and then feel
11:45like pretty cool
11:46and all that.
11:47Oh,
11:47I can make
11:49all kinds
11:49of phony
11:50things.
11:50You see what
11:51I mean,
11:51blinded by it
11:52or I can show
11:52you some
11:53really fancy
11:54movement.
11:56But,
11:56to express
11:57oneself honestly,
11:59not lying
11:59to oneself,
12:01and to express
12:02myself honestly,
12:03that,
12:04my friend,
12:05is very
12:06hard to do
12:07and you have
12:08to train.
12:08You have to
12:09keep your
12:09reflexes
12:10so that when
12:10you want it,
12:11it's there.
12:12When you want
12:13to move,
12:14you're moving
12:14and when you
12:15move,
12:15you are determined
12:16to move.
12:17Not taking
12:17one inch,
12:18not anything
12:19less than that.
12:20If I want
12:21to punch,
12:22I'm going
12:22to do it,
12:23man,
12:23and I'm
12:23going to do
12:23it,
12:24you see.
12:24So that is
12:25the type
12:25of thing
12:26you have
12:26to train
12:27yourself
12:27into it
12:28to become
12:28one with
12:29the,
12:31you think.
12:32Yeah,
12:32this is very
12:33unwestern,
12:34this attitude.
12:34I won't ask
12:35you about
12:35your movie
12:36and TV career,
12:37but first,
12:37we'll take a
12:38break,
12:38and I'll be
12:39back with
12:39Bruce Lee.
12:44I've been
12:45talking to
12:45Bruce Lee
12:46mainly about
12:47the Chinese
12:48martial arts,
12:48which include
12:49things like
12:50Chinese boxing,
12:51karate,
12:51and judo,
12:51which is what
12:52he taught
12:52when he was
12:53in Hollywood.
12:54After he left
12:55the University
12:55of Washington,
12:56where he studied,
12:56of all things,
12:57philosophy,
12:57if you can
12:58believe that.
12:58he did,
13:00but that,
13:00perhaps you
13:01understand why
13:02the two go
13:03together from
13:03the first half
13:04of this program.
13:06And you can
13:06perhaps understand
13:07how he got
13:07in the films,
13:08he knew a lot
13:08of actors,
13:09but I'm told
13:11that you got
13:12the job on
13:12The Green Hornet,
13:13where you played
13:14Kato the chauffeur,
13:15mainly because
13:16you're the only
13:17Chinese-looking guy
13:18who could pronounce
13:18the name of
13:19the leading character,
13:20Britt Reid.
13:21I made that
13:22as a joke,
13:23of course.
13:25And it's
13:26a heck of a name,
13:27man.
13:27I mean,
13:27every time I
13:28said it,
13:28at that time,
13:29I was super
13:30conscious.
13:31I mean,
13:31really,
13:32that's another
13:32interesting thing.
13:34Let's say
13:34if you learn
13:35to speak Chinese,
13:37it's not difficult
13:39to learn
13:40and speak
13:41the word.
13:42The hard thing,
13:43the difficult thing,
13:45it's behind
13:46what is the meaning,
13:47what brought on
13:48the expression
13:48and feelings
13:49behind those words.
13:50Like when I first
13:51arrived in the United
13:52States,
13:52and I look at
13:53a Caucasian,
13:54and I really
13:55would not know
13:55whether he was
13:56putting me on,
13:57or is it really
13:58angry,
13:59because we have
14:00different ways
14:00of reacting to it.
14:01See,
14:02those are the
14:02difficult things,
14:03you see.
14:04It's almost as if
14:05you came upon
14:06a strange race
14:07where a smile
14:08didn't mean what
14:09it does to us.
14:09In fact,
14:10a smile doesn't
14:10always mean the
14:11same,
14:11does it?
14:12Of course not.
14:14Tell me about
14:16the big break
14:18when you played
14:18in Longstreet.
14:20I must tell
14:20the audience
14:21that Bruce Lee
14:22had a bit part
14:24or a supporting
14:25role in the
14:27Longstreet series,
14:28and this had
14:29an enormous effect
14:30on the audience.
14:31What was it?
14:33Well,
14:33you see,
14:35the title
14:37of that particular
14:38episode of Longstreet
14:39is called
14:39The Way of the
14:40Intercepting Fist.
14:42Now,
14:43I think
14:44the successful
14:45ingredient in it
14:47was because
14:48I was being
14:49Bruce Lee.
14:51Yourself?
14:51Myself,
14:52right.
14:53And did that part,
14:54just express myself,
14:56like I say,
14:56honestly express myself
14:58at that time.
14:59And because of that,
15:00I brought,
15:01you know,
15:02favorable mentioning
15:03in like New York Times,
15:05which sets like
15:06the Chinaman
15:08who incidentally
15:08came off
15:10quite convincingly
15:11enough to earn
15:11himself a television
15:13series and so on
15:14and so on
15:14and so forth.
15:15Can you remember
15:15the lines by
15:16Sterling Silliphant,
15:17the key lines?
15:18He's one of my
15:19students,
15:19you know that?
15:20Was he too?
15:20Yes.
15:22Everybody is your
15:23student.
15:24But you read,
15:25there were some lines
15:25that expressed
15:26your philosophy.
15:27I don't know
15:27if you remember them
15:27or not.
15:28Oh, I remember that.
15:29I said,
15:30this is what it is,
15:31okay?
15:31You're talking
15:32to Longstreet,
15:33played by James
15:33Francesca.
15:34I said,
15:34empty your mind.
15:37Be formless,
15:38shapeless,
15:40like water.
15:41Now,
15:42you put water
15:42into a cup,
15:44it becomes the cup.
15:46You put water
15:46into a bottle,
15:47it becomes the bottle.
15:48You put it in a teapot,
15:49it becomes the teapot.
15:51Now,
15:51water can flow
15:52or it can crash.
15:55Be water,
15:56my friend.
15:57Like that,
15:58you see?
15:58I see.
15:59I get the idea.
16:00I get the power
16:01behind it.
16:03So,
16:04now,
16:05two things have happened.
16:07First,
16:07there's a pretty good chance
16:09that you'll get a TV series
16:10in the States
16:10called The Warriors
16:12in which you use,
16:13what,
16:13the martial arts
16:14in a Western setting?
16:16That was the original idea.
16:18Now,
16:19Paramount,
16:19you know,
16:20I did Longstreet
16:21for Paramount
16:22and Paramount
16:23wants me to be
16:23in a television series.
16:24On the other hand,
16:26Warner Brothers
16:27wants me to be
16:28in another one
16:29but both of them
16:30I think
16:31they want me
16:32to be in a modernized
16:34type of a thing
16:35and they think
16:36that Western idea
16:37is out
16:38whereas I want...
16:40You want to do the Western?
16:40I want...
16:41Because you see,
16:42I mean,
16:43how else can you justify
16:45all these
16:46punching and kicking
16:47and violence
16:48except in the period
16:50of the West?
16:51I mean,
16:51nowadays,
16:52I mean,
16:53you don't go around
16:53on the street
16:54kicking people
16:55or punching people
16:56because if you do,
17:00you know,
17:01that's it.
17:01I mean,
17:02I don't care
17:02how good you are,
17:03you know.
17:04But this is true also
17:05of the Chinese dramas
17:06which are mainly
17:07costume dramas
17:08and they're all full
17:09of blood and gore
17:10over here.
17:11Oh,
17:11you mean here?
17:11Yeah.
17:12Well,
17:12unfortunately,
17:13you see,
17:14I hope
17:16that the picture
17:17I am in
17:19would
17:21either explain
17:23why the violence
17:24was done,
17:26whether right
17:26or wrong
17:27or whatnot.
17:28But,
17:28unfortunately,
17:30pictures,
17:30most of them here
17:31are done mainly
17:32just for the sake
17:33of violence,
17:34you know what I mean?
17:35Like,
17:35you know,
17:35fighting for 30 minutes
17:36gets stabbed 50 times.
17:38But I'm fascinated,
17:39let me give you
17:40your microphone there.
17:41I'm fascinated
17:42that you came back...
17:44I am a martial artist.
17:45You came back
17:46to Hong Kong
17:46on the verge
17:48of success
17:48in Hollywood
17:49and full of it
17:51and suddenly
17:51on the strength
17:52of one picture
17:53you become a superstar.
17:54Everybody knows you.
17:56You have to take...
17:57You have to change
17:57your phone number.
17:59You get mobbed
17:59in the streets.
18:01Now,
18:01what are you going to do?
18:02Are you going to...
18:03Are you going to be able
18:04to live in both worlds?
18:05Are you going to be
18:06a superstar here
18:07or one in the States
18:08or both?
18:08Well,
18:09let me say this.
18:10First of all,
18:12the word superstar
18:14really turned me off
18:15and I'll tell you why.
18:16Because the word star,
18:18man,
18:18it's an illusion.
18:20It's something
18:21what the public calls you.
18:23You should look upon
18:24oneself as an actor,
18:26man.
18:26I mean,
18:27you would be very pleased
18:28if somebody say,
18:29hey man,
18:29you are a super actor.
18:31It is much better
18:32than, you know,
18:33superstar.
18:34Therefore,
18:34I...
18:34You've got to admit
18:35that you are a superstar.
18:36You're not going to...
18:36If you're going to give me
18:37the truth...
18:38I am...
18:39Now,
18:39I'm honestly saying this,
18:40okay?
18:41Yes,
18:41I have been very successful.
18:43Yeah.
18:44Okay?
18:44But I...
18:45I mean,
18:46I think the word star
18:47is...
18:48I mean,
18:48I do not look upon
18:50myself as a star.
18:51I really don't.
18:52I mean,
18:53believe me,
18:54man,
18:54when I say it.
18:55I mean,
18:55I'm not saying it
18:56because I...
18:56What are you going to do?
18:57Let's get back
18:58to the question.
18:59Are you going to stay
19:00in Hong Kong
19:00and be famous?
19:01Are you going to go
19:02to the United States
19:02and be famous?
19:03Are you going to try
19:03and eat your cake
19:04and have it too?
19:05I am going to do both
19:07because you see,
19:08I have already made up
19:09my mind that in
19:11the United States,
19:12I think something
19:13about the Oriental,
19:15I mean,
19:15the true Oriental
19:18should be shown.
19:19Hollywood sure
19:20as heck hasn't.
19:21You better believe it,
19:22man.
19:23I mean,
19:23it's always that
19:24pigtail and bouncing
19:25around,
19:25chop-chop,
19:26you know,
19:26with the eyes
19:27slant and all that.
19:28And I think
19:29that's very,
19:29very out of...
19:30Is it true
19:31that the first job
19:32you had was being
19:33cast as Charlie Chan's
19:34number one son?
19:35number one son,
19:36yeah.
19:37They never made the movie?
19:38No, no, no,
19:38no, no,
19:39they were going
19:39to make it
19:40into like
19:40a new Chinese
19:41James Bond
19:42type of a thing
19:43now that,
19:43you know,
19:44the old man
19:45Chan is dead,
19:46Charlie is dead
19:47and his son
19:48is carrying on.
19:49But they didn't
19:50do that?
19:50No.
19:51Batman came along,
19:52you see,
19:53because,
19:54and then everything
19:54was started
19:55to be going
19:56into that,
19:56you know,
19:57that kind of...
19:58Which you were in.
20:00But,
20:01is it...
20:01By the way,
20:02I did a really
20:03terrible job in that,
20:04I have to say.
20:05Really?
20:05You didn't like
20:06yourself?
20:06I didn't see one.
20:08Let me ask you,
20:09however,
20:09about the problems
20:11that you face
20:12as a Chinese hero
20:14in an American series.
20:16Have people come up
20:17in the industry
20:18and said,
20:19well,
20:19we don't know
20:19how the audience
20:20are going to take
20:20a non-American?
20:26such question has been
20:27raised.
20:28In fact,
20:28it is,
20:28it is,
20:29it is being discussed
20:30and that is why
20:30the warrior
20:31is probably,
20:32it's not going
20:33to be on.
20:33I see.
20:34You see,
20:35because,
20:36unfortunately,
20:38such thing
20:39does exist
20:40in this world,
20:42you see,
20:42like,
20:43I don't know,
20:43certain part
20:44of the country,
20:45right?
20:46where,
20:47like,
20:48they think that
20:48business-wise,
20:50it's a risk.
20:51And I don't blame them.
20:52And I don't blame them.
20:53I mean,
20:53in the same way
20:53as like in Hong Kong,
20:55if a foreigner
20:56come and be,
20:57and became a star,
20:58if I were the,
20:59uh,
21:00uh,
21:01the,
21:01uh,
21:01the man with the money,
21:03I probably would have
21:04my own worry
21:05of whether or not
21:06the acceptance
21:07would be there.
21:08But,
21:09that's all right
21:10because
21:12if you,
21:12if you honestly
21:13express yourself,
21:14it doesn't matter,
21:15I think.
21:16Are you,
21:17how about the other
21:17side of the coin?
21:18Is it possible
21:19that you are,
21:19I mean,
21:20you're fairly hip
21:20and fairly Americanized.
21:22Are you too western,
21:23uh,
21:24for inter-led audiences,
21:25do you think?
21:26Oh, man,
21:27like,
21:27how?
21:29I have been,
21:30I have been
21:32criticized for that.
21:33You have, eh?
21:34Oh, yes,
21:35definitely.
21:36Uh,
21:38well,
21:39let me say this.
21:41When I do
21:41the Chinese film,
21:42I'll try my best
21:45not to be as
21:48American as I,
21:49you know,
21:50have been adjust to
21:51for the last 12 years
21:52in the States.
21:53And,
21:53but when I go back
21:54to the States,
21:56it seems to be
21:57the other way around,
21:59you know?
21:59You're too exotic, eh?
22:00Yeah, man.
22:01I mean,
22:01they're trying to get me
22:02to do too many things
22:04that are really
22:05for the sake of
22:06being exotic.
22:08You, you,
22:08do you understand
22:08what I'm trying to say?
22:09Oh, sure.
22:10So it's really,
22:11I mean,
22:11it's,
22:12When you live in both worlds,
22:13you, there's,
22:14it brings us problems
22:15as well as advantages,
22:16and you've got both.
22:17Time to go to a commercial.
22:18I'll be back in a moment
22:19with Bruce Lee.
22:22Let me ask you
22:23whether the change
22:25in attitude
22:25on the part of
22:26the Nixon administration
22:28towards China
22:29has helped
22:30your chances
22:31of starring
22:32in an American TV series?
22:34Well,
22:35first of all,
22:36this happened
22:37before that.
22:38Yeah.
22:39But,
22:39I do think
22:40that
22:43things of Chinese
22:44will be quite interesting
22:46for the next few years.
22:47I mean,
22:48not that I'm politically,
22:49you know,
22:49inclining toward anything,
22:51you know,
22:51I understand that.
22:51I just want to...
22:52But I mean,
22:52I mean,
22:55once the opening
22:56of,
22:56of,
22:57of China,
22:58you know,
22:59I mean,
22:59that it will bring
23:00more understanding.
23:02Yeah.
23:02More things that are,
23:04hey,
23:04like different,
23:05you know,
23:06and maybe in the contrast
23:07of comparison,
23:08some new thing
23:09might grow.
23:10So therefore,
23:11I mean,
23:11it's a very rich period
23:13to be in.
23:15I mean,
23:15like if I were born,
23:17let's say,
23:1840 years ago.
23:20Yeah.
23:21If I have a thought
23:22in my mind,
23:23I said,
23:24boy,
23:24I'm going to star
23:25in a movie
23:26or star in a television
23:27series in America.
23:29Well,
23:30that might be
23:31a vague dream,
23:32but I think right now,
23:34maybe.
23:36You still think
23:36of yourself Chinese
23:37or do you ever
23:38think of yourself
23:38as North American?
23:40You,
23:40you know what I want
23:41to think of myself
23:44as a human being
23:46because
23:47I mean,
23:48I don't want
23:48it sounds like,
23:49you know,
23:49as Confucius say,
23:51but under the sky,
23:52under the heaven,
23:53man,
23:53there is but one family.
23:55It just so happened,
23:56man,
23:56that people are different.
23:59Okay,
23:59we got to go.
24:00Thank you,
24:00Bruce Lee,
24:01for coming here.
24:07You've been watching
24:07Bruce Lee
24:08on the Pierre Burton Show,
24:10a half-hour program
24:11of conversation,
24:12opinion,
24:13and debate.
24:15This is Bernard Cowan
24:16speaking.
24:17Little
24:19screamами
24:20.
24:20.
24:28Time
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