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Believe founder Denis Ladegaillerie and executive Romain Vivien decode the rise of their multi-billion-dollar music company that is commanding 10% of the global digital market. Believe has successfully outmaneuvered the major label system. Billboard news explores why top musical acts like Janet Jackson, Cleo Sol, and Russ utilize Believe’s business model to retain master ownership while leveraging a massive global infrastructure.

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00:00You can't really pretend to be a global music company not being significant enough in the number one market in
00:05the world.
00:05We build a number one, two, or three position in 12 to 13 markets in the top 20 markets in
00:11the world.
00:18Our market share globally in digital music is close to 10%,
00:21which means that when we are talking about doing specific things,
00:26they translate in tens of millions of dollars of value.
00:29We are now number one, two, number three player in Asia.
00:33We're now number one, two, three players across Europe and the Middle East.
00:37Now is the right time for us to start looking at North America.
00:51Just to give you a sense, when we started in 2005,
00:55the belief was, I think, the belief name and the belief first was we want to sign new artists
01:02and we want to provide access and the market would create an opportunity for some of these artists to develop.
01:08So it was really artists first and the belief that in a technological world,
01:14technology could democratize market access.
01:17This was still a very heavy, CD-driven world at the time.
01:22In France, we were quite successful very, very, very early on for one single reason.
01:29We made a bet on hip-hop.
01:36At the time, no major were interested by hip-hop anymore.
01:41If there's one genre and one community of artists that's going to switch to digital faster than any others,
01:48it's hip-hop.
01:49Why?
01:50Because their demographic of audiences younger.
01:52Those will be the first adopters of digital and the streaming era and the YouTube consumption and everything.
01:57And second of all, they produce more music than any other.
02:02A pop artist releases an album every three, four, five years.
02:05A hip-hop artist, every six months.
02:06We need to stay agile because the ecosystem and the artist needs us to remain agile
02:11and we need to be more agile than the majors because this is going to become one of our USPs.
02:16We need to move faster and we need to be more agile about it,
02:20to be more adapted to what the artist ecosystem and the markets and the artist community need.
02:29We received a call from, I think, Oliver at the time who was still leading at Apple
02:34and he was telling us, look, Apple is going to open in 53 new territories on December 12, 2012.
02:45And we have selected three companies.
02:49We're not going to sign any direct deals with any artists and labels in all of these new countries.
02:55We have selected Believe, TuneCore and The Orchard.
02:59So if you want, we need your help to be able to source content in all of these territories.
03:06We wanted to double down on our original belief of we want to be able to take artists from entry
03:14level all the way to the top.
03:16We acquired TuneCore to be on the DIY market, to step in into the number one market in the world
03:22in the US and to source artists.
03:24So we are sourcing artists from TuneCore because some of them also need more services.
03:29Some of them don't need and they are very happy on TuneCore and this is great.
03:33And we need to develop them within the TuneCore ecosystem, which is fantastic.
03:37We love that.
03:38But some of them need more.
03:39So why would they go elsewhere?
03:43Well, they can move elsewhere and continue to develop further because they need more expertise services, people to talk to
03:49and marketing, investment, advances, etc., etc., within the belief ecosystem.
03:54When we are having conversations with all of our partners right now, these are meaningful conversations because our market share
04:02globally in digital music is close to 10%, which means that when we are talking about doing specific things,
04:09they translate in tens of millions of dollars of value.
04:13The way that we describe today as our objective is to build one global artist development company and what I
04:20say is it's we build locally and we connect it globally and technology empowered.
04:30The bet, which is proven being the right one, was that the growth of each market, more and more, is
04:39going to come from local music.
04:41It's about Thai music in Thailand, Mexican music in Mexico, Philippines music in Philippines, Polish music in Poland.
04:48Mainly, the growth will come from the independent sector, from the local music, from the local entrepreneur, from the local
04:55artist, as opposed to the old model, which is still there, mostly with the majors, of building global careers and
05:04global stars.
05:11If I take France, we're the number one, 225 charts, we have 47 albums, 29% market share in the
05:18top 200 yearly, 32% market share on the single charts with 57 plus single charted.
05:25We're bigger than anyone else.
05:32India, the biggest population in the world, 1 billion plus, the majors aren't there.
05:37The ecosystem is about local music in India is consumed by the language of the states.
05:42People in the South are consuming music from the South, people in the North, music from the North.
05:47We've been operating in India since 13 years and we are very successful there.
05:52Vivek, our head of India, is an incredible executive.
05:56He's entirely responsible with Silva, our head of APAC, on building the success that we have had.
06:02The core is really quality of your local teams in understanding the market, being able to build relationships with the
06:09right people, because we are in a people business.
06:12And if you don't build trust relationship with the ecosystem, you're not successful at doing the right acquisition, which is
06:20instrumental for us in India and understanding market evolution.
06:31Now is the right time because we were well positioned with leadership position in as many as possible of the
06:39markets where we invested.
06:41We are now number one to number three player in Asia.
06:44We're now number one to three players across Europe.
06:47Now in the Middle East, now is the right time for us to start looking at North America.
06:52You can't really pretend to be a global music company not being significant enough in the number one market in
06:57the world.
06:58It's the number one market in terms of exporting outside of the US.
07:01We are already the fourth largest player in the US.
07:04We do about 4% market share.
07:06We're the largest players after the major record labels.
07:09When we look at the offering in the US on distribution, we think that we believe as a company, our
07:16position much more as a premium distribution company than some of the companies existing in the market.
07:22So we already have TuneCore.
07:24And that's great because that gives us some market share again on the US soul.
07:28And as we're going to bring our office services business in the US as well.
07:37Our view is on the distribution side, distribution, it is no longer about access.
07:45Distribution, like artist services, has to drive success.
07:49That's why your strategic plan is called from access to success.
07:52Our first base of success three, four, five years from now is being able to have built a great portfolio
07:59of label on distribution and artists that we're proud on, that we've helped develop.
08:05And then build a portfolio of 10 sub labels that we have co-invested in, that we're developing successfully.
08:13We want to be able to achieve global coverage.
08:15Not only do we want to build in the United States for American artists in the US, but we also
08:22want to be able to have a capability that allows us to develop US artists globally.
08:30People often ask me, who are your competitor?
08:32My answer is we don't have any.
08:34With that view of addressing all those business lines, with that local approach, I don't think so.
08:42Not at the level we do it.
08:43It's not a two-year game or a five-year game that we're playing, it's a 20-year game that
08:48we're playing.
08:49We want to empower the next generation of ANRs and executives who are building labels to become the future winners
08:57in label development of tomorrow.
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