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Believe founder Denis Ladegaillerie and executive Romain Vivien decode the rise of their multi-billion-dollar music company that is commanding 10% of the global digital market. Believe has successfully outmaneuvered the major label system. Billboard news explores why top musical acts like Janet Jackson, Cleo Sol, and Russ utilize Believe’s business model to retain master ownership while leveraging a massive global infrastructure.

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00:00You can't really pretend to be a global music company not being significant enough in the number one market in
00:05the world.
00:05We build a number one, two, or three position in 12 to 13 markets in the top 20 markets in
00:11the world.
00:18Our market share globally in digital music is close to 10%,
00:21which means that when we are talking about doing specific things,
00:26they translate in tens of millions of dollars of value.
00:29We are now number one, two, number three player in Asia.
00:33We're now number one, two, three players across Europe and the Middle East.
00:37Now is the right time for us to start looking at North America.
00:51Just to give you a sense, when we started in 2005,
00:55the belief was, I think the belief name and the belief first was we want to sign new artists and
01:02we want to provide access and the market would create an opportunity for some of these artists to develop.
01:08So it was really artists first and we believe that in a technological world, technology could democratize market access.
01:17This was still a very heavy, CD-driven world at the time.
01:22In France, we were quite successful very, very, very early on for one single reason.
01:29We made a bet on hip-hop.
01:36At the time, no major were interested by hip-hop anymore.
01:41If there's one genre and one community of artists that's going to switch to digital faster than any others, it's
01:49hip-hop.
01:49Why? Because their demographic of audiences is younger.
01:52Those will be the first adopters of digital and the streaming era and the YouTube consumption and everything.
01:58And second of all, they produce more music than any other.
02:02A pop artist releases an album every three, four, five years.
02:05A hip-hop artist, every six months.
02:06We need to stay agile because the ecosystem and the artist needs us to remain agile and we need to
02:12be more agile than the majors because this is going to become one of our USP.
02:16We need to move faster and we need to be more agile about it, to be more adapted to what
02:22the artistic ecosystem and the markets and the artist community need.
02:29We received a call from, I think, Oliver at the time, who was still leading at Apple and he was
02:35telling us, look, Apple is going to open in 53 new territories on December 12, 2012.
02:46And we have selected three companies.
02:49We're not going to sign any direct deals with any artists and labels in all of these new countries.
02:56We have selected Believe, TuneCore and The Orchard.
02:59So, if you want, we need your help to be able to source content in all of these territories.
03:06We wanted to double down on our original belief of we want to be able to take artists from entry
03:14level all the way to the top.
03:16We acquired TuneCore to be on the DIY market, to step into the number one market in the world in
03:22the US and to source artists.
03:24So, we are sourcing artists from TuneCore because some of them also need more services.
03:29Some of them don't need and they are very happy on TuneCore and this is great and we need to
03:34develop them within the TuneCore ecosystem, which is fantastic.
03:37We love that, but some of them need more.
03:39So, why would they go elsewhere?
03:43Well, they can move elsewhere and continue to develop further because they need more expertise services people to talk to
03:49and marketing investment advances, etc., etc., within the belief ecosystem.
03:54When we are having conversations with all of our partners right now, these are meaningful conversations because our market share
04:02globally in digital music is close to 10%, which means that when we are talking about doing specific things, they
04:09translate in tens of millions of dollars of value.
04:12The way that we describe today as our objective is to build one global artist development company and what I
04:20say is it's we build locally and we connect it globally and technology empowered.
04:30The bet, which is proven being the right one, was that the growth of each market, more and more, is
04:39going to come from local music.
04:40It's about Thai music in Thailand, Mexican music in Mexico, Philippines music in Philippines, Polish music in Poland.
04:48Mainly, the growth will come from the independent sector, from the local music, from the local entrepreneur, from the local
04:55artist, as opposed to the old model, which is still there mostly with the majors of building global careers and
05:04global stars.
05:11If I take France, we are the number one, 225 charts, we have 47 albums, 29% market share in
05:18the top 200 yearly, 32% market share on the single charts with 57 plus single charted.
05:25We are bigger than anyone else.
05:32India, the biggest population in the world, 1 billion plus, the majors are not there.
05:37The ecosystem is about local music in India is consumed by the language of the states.
05:42People in the South are consuming music from the South.
05:45People in the North, music from the North.
05:47We've been operating in India since 13 years and we are very successful there.
05:53Vivek, our head of India, is an incredible executive.
05:56He is entirely responsible with Silva, our head of APAC, on building the success that we have had.
06:02The core is really quality of your local teams in understanding the market, being able to build relationship with the
06:09right people because we are in a people business and if you don't build trust relationship with the ecosystem, you're
06:17not successful at doing the right acquisition, which is instrumental for us in India and understanding market evolution.
06:31Now is the right time because we were well positioned with leadership position in as many as possible of the
06:39markets where we invested. We are now number one to number three player in Asia. We're now number one to
06:45three players across Europe. Now in the Middle East, now is the right time for us to start looking at
06:51North America.
06:52You can't really pretend to be a global music company not being significant enough in the number one market in
06:57the world. Number one market in terms of exporting outside of the U.S.
07:01We are already the fourth largest player in the U.S. We do about 4% market share. We're the
07:07largest players after the major record labels. When we look at the offering in the U.S. on distribution, we
07:14think that we believe as a company are positioned much more as a premium distribution company than some of the
07:21companies existing in the market.
07:22So we already have TuneCore and that's great because that gives us some market share again on the U.S.
07:28soul and as we're going to bring our office services business in the U.S. as well.
07:37Our view is on the distribution side, distribution, it is no longer about access. Distribution, like artist services, has to
07:48drive success.
07:49That's why your strategic plan is called from access to success. Our first base of success three, four, five years
07:54from now is being able to have built a great portfolio of label on distribution and artists that we're proud
08:03on, that we've helped develop and then build a portfolio of 10 sub labels that we have co-invested in
08:11that we're developing successfully.
08:13We want to be able to achieve global coverage. Not only do we want to build in the United States
08:18for American artists in the U.S., but we also want to be able to have a capability that allows
08:25us to develop U.S. artists globally.
08:29People often ask me, who are your competitors? My answer is we don't have any. With that view of addressing
08:35all those business lines with that local approach, I don't think so. Not at the level we do it.
08:43It's not a two-year game or five-year game that we're playing. It's a 20-year game that we're
08:48playing. We want to empower the next generation of ANRs and executives who are building labels to become the future
08:56winners in label development of tomorrow.
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