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JAKARTA, KOMPAS.TV Presiden AS, Donald Trump bicara soal aktivitas mata-mata antara AS dan China.

Hal ini disampaikan usai kunjungan Trump di China untuk bertemu Xi Jinping pada Jumat (15/5/2026).

Trump mengatakan bahwa pihaknya juga melakukan aksi mata-mata habis-habisan.

"Sama seperti soal mata-mata. Mereka bicara soal, oh, aktivitas spionase. Saya bilang, ya kami juga melakukannya. Lihat, saya sedang bicara soal spionase. Pertanyaan itu ditanyakan kepada saya kemarin, saya kira. Bagaimana dengan fakta bahwa China memata-matai Amerika Serikat? Saya bilang, ya itu salah satu hal yang terjadi, karena kami juga memata-matai mereka habis-habisan."

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00:00Did you talk to him about the cyber-attacks that he's done in the United States or the MSS?
00:05I did, and he talked about attacks that we did in China.
00:09You know, what they do, we do, too.
00:10It's like the spying. They're talking about, oh, the spying.
00:14I said, well, we do it, too.
00:16Look, no, I'm talking about spying.
00:19The question was asked to me yesterday, I guess,
00:22what about the fact that China's spying in the United States?
00:25I said, well, it's one of those things, because we spy like hell on them, too.
00:30What about the fact that China is putting in the U.S. infrastructure code that they could use if you
00:36ever decided to come to the United States?
00:38Well, you don't know that. I mean, I'd like to see it.
00:39But it's very possible that they do.
00:42And we're doing things to them, I told them.
00:44We do a lot of stuff to you that you don't know about, and you're doing things to us that
00:49we probably do know about.
00:51But we do plenty. It's a double exercise.
00:53And I'll start again on President Xi.
00:55A couple of years ago, when President Biden met him in San Francisco, he was asked if he thought President
01:01Xi was a dictator.
01:03Do you think President Xi is a dictator?
01:05I think that President Biden was an incompetent president.
01:08He gave us the Iran nuclear deal, which allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapon within a matter of years
01:15from the time they said I terminated it.
01:17If I didn't terminate that, Iran would have a nuclear weapon that they would have used it within probably two
01:22years ago, three years ago.
01:24If I didn't go in with the B-2 bombers nine months ago, Iran would have a nuclear weapon and
01:29nobody would be able to talk to them.
01:30By the way, they would have used it already.
01:33Do you think President Xi is a dictator or not?
01:36I don't think about it.
01:37He's the ruler.
01:39He's the president of China.
01:41I don't think about it.
01:42You deal with what you have.
01:45I respect him.
01:46He's very smart.
01:47He loves his country.
01:48I respect him.
01:50Whether he's a dictator, that's for you to figure out.
01:52Mr. President, you said you didn't talk about tariffs, but did you talk about fentanyl at all?
01:57I did.
01:57I talked about fentanyl.
01:58As you know, I put a tariff on because of fentanyl.
02:02And they discussed that.
02:04But I put a penalty.
02:06It's a penalty.
02:06A lot of money we take in because of that.
02:09I'd prefer not taking it and I'd prefer that we don't have.
02:11But we did talk about fentanyl.
02:14Well, you know, the fentanyl is down, way down from where it was.
02:18And it could be because of the tariff penalty.
02:24All the time.
02:25The fast.
02:25All the time.
02:25The speed and accuracy of data are commitment.
02:28One more depth.
02:30One more depth.
02:31One more depth.
02:31One more depth.
02:32Look at this day's day as day.
02:35In the day's day,
02:39Terima kasih.
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