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First broadcast 21st July 1984.

In Ulster in 1959, a journalist witnesses the beating of a youth.

Adrian Dunbar - Peter Douglas
Michael Duffy - Mr. Douglas
Doreen Keogh - Mrs. Douglas
Breffni McKenna - Michael Ferguson
Carol Moore - Siobhán (as Carol Scanlan)
Rio Fanning - Dermot Concannon
John Keegan - George Harbinson
Michael Gormley - Carney
Peter Quigley - Joe Doom
Oliver Maguire - Priest
Denys Hawthorne - RUC District Inspector
Stella McCusker - Mrs. Ferguson
Birdy Sweeney - Mr. Ferguson
Derek Lord - 'B' Special Sergeant
David Huntley - 'B' Special
Dick Holland - RUC Sergeant
Trevor Moore - 'B' Special
Maureen Dow - Shop Customer
B.J. Hogg - Shop Customer
Ainé Gorman - Young Girl
Laura Gorman - Young Girl
Anthony Frew - RUC Constable
James Nesbitt - 'B' Special

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00:00I don't know what to do.
00:30I don't know.
01:00It was heard at last to say.
01:02Let him go, let him tarry, let him sink or let him swim.
01:06But he doesn't care for me, nor I don't care for him.
01:10He can go and get another that I hope he will enjoy.
01:15For I am going to marry a far nicer boy.
01:24Come on in the back.
01:29He kept tea for you.
01:36Oh, son, you're wonderful.
01:39You've grown.
01:40Don't be down.
01:41Well, he's still died anyway.
01:43It's lovely to see you.
01:44Listen, I've got your room already.
01:46Oh, you would like to go upstairs and have a wash.
01:47Oh, yeah.
01:48I've got your room.
01:49Oh, Miss Kane died, of course.
01:51But that was when you were in Dublin.
01:52How long ago is that now?
01:54Two, two and a half.
01:55Three years ago.
01:56Was it three years?
01:58Mrs. Mooney took to her bed last November and hasn't been up since.
02:03Arthritis, you know.
02:04Remember Tom, her youngest?
02:06He was at St. Kieran's in your time.
02:09Yeah.
02:10You'll never guess where he is now?
02:12Oh, where?
02:13Belfast.
02:13He's got his own TV repair shop on the Grosvenor Road.
02:17Him and Maureen, you never knew her.
02:20They've their own bungalow at Dunrod.
02:22And Maureen's expecting her third.
02:24You'll never believe this.
02:25Tell us about Paul McBride.
02:26He was always good for a laugh.
02:28That was a dreadful thing, too.
02:31Such a nice young fella.
02:33Always a smile.
02:35But the drink got him.
02:37He's in some hospital in Derry.
02:39They say he might never get out.
02:41What a place.
02:42His father was just the same.
02:44Jesus.
02:49You wouldn't think of coming home, then?
02:51Why, here?
02:52Not at all.
02:53I mean, in the six counties.
02:55Belfast or Derry or someplace.
02:56Get a job on one of our own papers.
02:58No, I couldn't do that.
02:59Why not?
03:00Well, it'd be a kind of surrender.
03:01Besides, I like London.
03:03What's so great about it?
03:04Well, the freedom.
03:05Freedom?
03:06What do you mean, son, freedom?
03:09Well, I mean, nobody interferes with you.
03:12Nobody on the Chronicle would ever dream of asking if you were a Catholic or a Protestant,
03:15at least not in the way they do here.
03:18You spent ten years in New York before you come home to settle down.
03:20You know what I'm talking about.
03:26But I was just a short-order cook.
03:28The only people I got to know were the lads in the Shamrock Gaelic Sports Club.
03:32I might as well be in Coal Island.
03:34Exactly.
03:35That's the problem with the Irish.
03:37Take a news agent like this.
03:39He can tell all you want to know about somebody by the newspaper he buys.
03:42Irish news, Belfast newsletters, Sunday Times, News of the World.
03:45In London, you could walk into a shop and ask for Pravda, and nobody would bat an eyelid.
03:50Literally.
03:51Then can you explain, son, why the British have the reputation they have abroad?
03:54Would you like some grapes?
03:55Didn't England interfere with freedom everywhere she went, from India to the north here?
03:58Aye, but, Dad, that's not the real England.
04:01That's the government and the ruling classes.
04:03The real Englishman stands for individual liberty.
04:06Live and let live.
04:09I must never have met a real Englishman, then.
04:15Maybe they're all right when they're at home.
04:23Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy.
04:26Hail, our life, our sweetness, and our hope.
04:28To thee do we cry for our banished children of Eden.
04:31To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning, and weep in those valleys of tears.
04:36Turn them, most gracious, out the gate, and eyes of mercy towards us.
04:40And after this, our exile is shown to us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
04:44O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary, pray for us, O Holy Mother of God,
04:50that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
04:53We offer up this rosary in thanksgiving for the safe return of our beloved Son.
04:58Amen.
04:59In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
05:02Amen.
05:19Amen.
05:20Amen.
05:20Amen.
05:20Amen.
05:20Amen.
05:20Amen.
05:20Amen.
05:34Come on, leave him alone!
05:36You stay out of this friend.
05:40Are you going to touch me too?
06:10Come on.
06:40Ina, your breakfast ready!
06:42Aye, I'm coming, I'm coming.
06:44You lay in bed and lung to this type of day.
06:46He's in a great good humor this morning, whatever's wrong here.
06:48Two eggs over, ain't he all right? The old man can do it yet.
06:52What about the BLT on rye? Whole to mayo.
06:56That's for the lunch, kid.
06:58Good morning, son.
06:59That looks very nice.
07:00It's a long time since I had my breakfast made for me.
07:03You wouldn't be it if I did cook it for you.
07:05A bird each morning, are you?
07:07Well, what are you waiting for?
07:09They don't seem to have much of a nap at it in England, whatever else they may have.
07:12No, and they don't seem to cut their toenails either.
07:18Did you hear what happened last night?
07:20I did. Did you?
07:22I only heard the tail end of it, but they're all talking this morning.
07:25What are they saying?
07:26They say the B-special's beat up young Ferguson and afterwards they claim he's in the IRA.
07:31Who's he?
07:31Not at all.
07:33The harmless young lad that was out too late with his girl.
07:36Then why'd they beat him up?
07:38You were born and bred here and you asked me that.
07:42Well, there's been a lot of trouble lately.
07:43The only person he's likely to get into trouble is that girl if it's.
07:46Well, he must have done something.
07:48Not at all.
07:49The B-special's are so anxious to prove their importance strutting about with their wee guns.
07:53Besides, they're wetting themselves with fright and dying to get their own back.
07:58I see.
07:59I see all right.
08:01And a fat lot you've ever done about it.
08:04Well, what do you want me to do about it?
08:05Last night you were talking about Britain and freedom.
08:07Well, there's an example of your British freedom and a fine sight it is.
08:10But what do you want me to do? Go out and look for a gun?
08:12You could do worse.
08:14Only you would faint at the sight of one.
08:15Guns don't solve anything like that.
08:17And what the hell are you going to fight them with then? A portable typewriter?
08:19A fat lot of use. That would be against a Sten gun.
08:22Moral protest is the only answer. I mean, look at Gandhi.
08:25Moral protest, my rat.
08:26The usual kind, Mayor.
08:27How are you going to bring moral protest and bear on books like that?
08:30The usual?
08:30Force only recognises greater force.
08:32But now you know yourself, violence is the wrong way.
08:34It's the only way.
08:35Look, it's not the only way. Look, you ask me what could be done.
08:37Well, I'll tell you what could be done.
08:39A journalist could write an article and expose the whole thing.
08:42Which is, English readers would take one quick look at before turning to the sports pages
08:46and forgetting all about it.
08:47No, they wouldn't.
08:48It would achieve more than a whole battalion in the IRA.
08:51Honest, decent English people would read it and be ashamed of what's being done in their name.
08:55Oh, God love them. And what the hell good would that do?
08:57Well, questions would be asked.
08:59Maybe in Parliament. If not this time, then maybe the next.
09:01And gradually, if they're showing the enormity of what they're doing,
09:04the ruling classes in Ulster will come to their senses.
09:15Well, you're a journalist. Or so you keep telling me.
09:21Now, will you do it? Will you write the article?
09:26Jesus, darling, you've a quite twisted way of asking anybody to do anything.
09:29But will you write it?
09:32I will.
09:36Well, at least they've got you to do something.
09:39You haven't completely lost your Ulster spirit yet.
09:43Yes.
09:47What time's dinner, ma?
09:49About one.
09:53We should be back to then.
09:54Alright.
10:03You alright, ma'am? What's the matter?
10:06Don't aggravate him, son.
10:08I wasn't aggravating him. We were just talking.
10:10You know what he's like when you start talking politics with him.
10:14I do.
10:16He's just got over your going.
10:18It's alright.
10:22It's nice to have you home, son.
10:24Don't spoil it.
10:26Please.
10:29Alright, ma'am.
10:34Oh, hello, George. What about you?
10:36Oh, not so bad. How's yourself?
10:38The best, the best.
10:40Must be five of you.
10:42You're still shooting duck?
10:43I'll keep my hand in.
10:44Just a box of matches, please, Mrs Douglas.
10:46And singing the blues.
10:47Oh, I've moved on.
10:48Let me guess, the big band's basically that sort of stuff.
10:50Yeah, must be joking.
10:51I'm into real jazz now.
10:53Miles Davis, Brubeck.
10:54But you used to hate that sort of stuff.
10:56Used to hate girls too, but I grew out of that.
10:59Well, tell me about yourself.
11:00You know you're a big newspaper man now.
11:02Come on, it's only a job.
11:03I don't wear a green eye shade or anything like that.
11:05You still working for your old fella?
11:07No, not anymore.
11:09What happened? You and him fall out again?
11:11He went bankrupt.
11:12Did he not hear?
11:14Thanks, Mrs Douglas.
11:21George.
11:23Sorry about that.
11:24I didn't know about that.
11:24Oh, sorry.
11:26So what is it you're doing now?
11:28I've been mobilised.
11:29I've joined the regulars.
11:30I'm a full-time constable now.
11:32Heh.
11:33What do you do that for?
11:34The boot alliance?
11:36Somebody has to do it.
11:39Take care of yourself, Pete.
11:46Hey, Jojo.
11:49Remember me?
11:57Hey, Jojo.
11:58Remember me?
12:06I'll tell my mom when I go home,
12:09Jo won't leave the girls alone.
12:10He's happy when they're right in the middle.
12:12Well, all the best in the meantime.
12:14Fine now.
12:15Good morning, Mr Kearney.
12:17Good morning.
12:18I remember media.
12:19Peter Douglas.
12:21James Douglas' boy, is that right?
12:23How are you?
12:24How's London treating you?
12:25Oh, great, great.
12:26Do you know the Ferguson place, do you?
12:28Uh, Vincent Ferguson?
12:30Sure I do.
12:31Could you spare half an hour and run me up there?
12:33Aye.
12:35If you like it.
12:37Big friends of yours?
12:38No, not really.
12:46Come on.
12:47Pick up those feet, Johnson.
12:54By the right.
12:56Right.
12:56Wait.
13:02Swing those arms.
13:05By the right.
13:07Right.
13:08Wait.
13:08Wait.
13:11Swing those arms.
13:12Keep in step the track!
13:16Let's wait!
13:19I suppose you must see a lot of changes.
13:22Where are you?
13:23Aye, the new road and all.
13:25Things would seem to be looking up, wouldn't you say?
13:28Some things don't change.
13:30Oh well, what can you expect here in November?
13:32It was always raw and comfrey.
13:35I wasn't talking about the weather.
13:37Did you hear what happened last night?
13:39I heard nothing.
13:41I'm a heavy sleeper.
13:43Ah, well this young fella, Michael Ferguson, was beaten up by the B-specials.
13:46Aye, so I believe.
13:48For no good reason.
13:50Why are you so surprised?
13:51You were rare, dear.
13:53Aye, but I've forgotten about things like that.
13:56Was he badly injured?
13:58Well, I heard he had to have stitches on his lip anyway up in the county hospital.
14:01And he had to have his ribs strapped up.
14:03Oh, I would say they gave him the stick all right.
14:06And nobody'll do one thing about it, eh?
14:08Sure, how could they?
14:08Black bastards have it all sewn up.
14:28Aye, that's it all right.
14:32Any bids?
14:34Huh, looks bleak enough.
14:36Hungry is the word.
14:42Anybody in?
14:55Anybody in?
14:59Aye.
15:00Oh!
15:05Listen, I'll have to get back.
15:06I'll be late for my dinner.
15:07Try again later, all right?
15:09Aye, right.
15:11So what do you know about this Michael Ferguson fella then?
15:14Who's the girl, for instance?
15:15Well, I wasn't there, so I don't know, but I've seen him around with Annie McGee's wee girl.
15:21It might have been her, and Siobhan.
15:24Aye, that's right, Siobhan.
15:25Where do they live?
15:27They're living on new development out the Loch Road.
15:30But here, the daughter works down at Wilson's.
15:32Would I catch her there this afternoon?
15:35Aye, you might.
15:36Listen, if you take this any further, son, and you'll be a marked man.
15:42Not me, Mr. Carney.
15:45You can't touch me.
16:06Mr. Carney.
16:07Thank you very much, Mr. Carney.
16:08Right, Peter.
16:08All the best.
16:11My God, it's Audrey Hepburn.
16:13What?
16:13No it isn't, Siobhan McGee. You know Siobhan, standing there you're like the spitting image of Audrey Hepburner.
16:18Listen, I'm a journalist and I'm working for a London newspaper and I'm doing a story about Ballydorgan,
16:23which means I've got to interview all the clever, interesting and in this case pretty people who live here.
16:27So what do you say to a drink in Devlin's? I'll pick you up at seven o'clock, all right?
16:30Peter Douglas.
16:31All right.
16:32Your ma said you were coming home for a holiday.
16:35You could have read an article about Ballydorgan part.
16:37I'd be surprised what I could dig up around here.
16:39I compared to all the scandal you get in London with all those big stars.
16:42Like who?
16:44Eddie Cochran.
16:45I could tell you things about Eddie.
16:48Afternoon, Miss Greg.
16:49Make your hair curve. Not that yours needs it, of course.
16:51What do you know about Eddie Cochran?
16:54I'll tell you tonight. See London. Coming down with stars.
17:01I'm gonna go to London, you know. Planned it all out.
17:05Why, what's wrong with Ballydorgan?
17:06Is that there they should have buried it years ago?
17:08I don't know. I think it's a wonderful place. That's why I come back.
17:13Peter Douglas, you're taking the hands of me.
17:15I'm not. I swear to God.
17:16You'll get me the sack.
17:16Peter, well, what about tonight then?
17:19All right. Well, we're not gonna go to Devlin's.
17:21We're gonna go to the Northland Darbs and then Gannon in a car.
17:25Then we're gonna go to the Astor to see South Pacific.
17:27And then, if you're lucky, I'll talk to you about this dump.
17:31Oh, and don't be late.
17:33Ah, dear.
17:37And give me a half pound of mixed sweets, will you please?
17:45Ahem, good afternoon to you, Peter, or are you speaking to me these days?
17:50I'm Gannon, how you doing? Good to see you.
17:52But not good enough to return to the old alma mater and seat me out.
17:55I was gonna come over to your house, but something came up.
17:58All men are liable to error.
18:01And most men are, in many points, by passion or interest under temptation to it.
18:07Mm-hmm. Said by?
18:09Ah, Thomas Hobbes.
18:11Hobbes?
18:12Have you forgotten everything I ever taught you?
18:15Poor John Locke. Must be turning in his grave.
18:18I was only testing, honest.
18:20You never could admit you were wrong.
18:22He hasn't changed.
18:24Seven and six, please.
18:25I must take off to you, though.
18:26You stand for a drop of tea, Mr. Gannon?
18:28Make it Dermot, will you?
18:30I think you've earned it now. You've become the big newspaper man.
18:33And besides, it'll make me feel younger.
18:34All right. Dermot it is.
18:36Good. Well, I'd like nothing better, Peter, but I have a very important meeting right now.
18:41Could we, uh, make it tomorrow?
18:43Certainly, say, about four o'clock.
18:45Oh, fine.
18:46Besides, there's something I wanted to talk to you about, anyway.
18:48Something special. I want to write a story about here from a newspaper.
18:53Nothing ever happens here.
18:55Almost something happened last night.
18:56Oh, yes, that.
18:59Well, I think the day's when I could help you with your writing are long since past.
19:03It's not the writing I need help with.
19:05It's what happened.
19:06And you saw it, didn't you?
19:08Mm-hmm.
19:10And I need witnesses, Gannon.
19:16All right.
19:18Hmm.
19:20See you tomorrow.
19:21Good.
19:21Oh, uh, goodbye, Mr. Douglas.
19:25I wouldn't stop looking if I were you.
19:28What?
19:29Don't stop looking for witnesses.
19:31He'll get no help there, whatever he says now.
19:36Look, just because Mr. Kentanen didn't spend his youth spreading people's guts all over the
19:40payments of our ma.
19:41It doesn't mean he feels any less strongly about what happened last night than you do.
20:13Yes?
20:14Good evening, Father.
20:15Good evening. How can I help you?
20:17My name's Peter Douglas. You've probably known my parents, James and Mary Douglas.
20:21Of course I know them. Fine couple. How's your mother?
20:24Oh, she's the best. Thanks, the best.
20:25Come in. Put on the light. Sit down. Make yourself comfortable.
20:34Are you here for long?
20:35Just to the end of the week. I have to be in Dublin on Monday.
20:38Dublin. Ah, you're a lucky man.
20:41I was trained there, you know.
20:43Little did I know then I'd wind up in batty dark.
20:46Fine place to live. Dublin, I mean.
20:49Oh, I don't live there. I'm going down to cover a conference. I'm a journalist.
20:52Are you?
20:54I once had thought of writing myself, you know.
20:57In fact, I often wonder what would have happened if I'd followed that path rather than the one I did.
21:02Do you?
21:03Ah, no, thanks, no.
21:04Yes, I often thought of writing myself.
21:07I don't know whether you read the tablet.
21:10Occasionally, yes.
21:11The standard of the articles is really deplorable these days.
21:14I could do so much better myself.
21:16Sounds a modest, I know, but I could. I know I could.
21:20Listen, Father, the reason I came to see you, it's...
21:22Yes, yes, sorry.
21:23It's about an article I'm doing for the Chronicle.
21:27The London News Chronicle?
21:29Yes.
21:31I see.
21:33Well, of course.
21:34Anything I can do to help.
21:36Well, you've probably heard about this affair with the Ferguson boy.
21:41I've heard some talk, yes.
21:43Well, I was wondering, could you give me some background?
21:46Background?
21:47Well, they are your parishioners, aren't they?
21:51Well, I know the family, but I seldom see them.
21:55Twice a year at most.
21:58They live so far out.
22:01The father had quite a serious operation a while back, I seem to recall.
22:07And what about the boy?
22:09Well, there are three boys.
22:11I was under the impression they'd all gone to England.
22:13Michael's certainly still here.
22:16Well, I hardly know, Michael.
22:19He would have been confirmed in my predecessor's time.
22:23And he's hardly what you'd call a regular communicant.
22:27A bit of a rough diamond.
22:31If you like.
22:33But, uh, no harm in him, they say.
22:36Enough harm in him to provoke the police, apparently.
22:39That rather begs the question, Father, if you don't mind me saying so.
22:43Perhaps you're right.
22:45Maybe we'll never know.
22:47Does this mean you're not going to help me?
22:49No, no, no, no, no.
22:50It's not that I don't want to help you.
22:51I simply don't know the boy.
22:53I've had no opportunity to judge him.
22:56Have there been other Michael Ferguson's father?
22:58Other incidents like this?
23:01What if there have?
23:03I haven't heard of them.
23:17I don't know whether you know Father McCourt on the tablet.
23:21No.
23:22Ah, well, never mind.
23:24Goodbye.
23:27Goodbye, Father.
23:32Goodbye, Father.
23:36Goodbye, Daddy.
23:48Goodbye, Father.
23:50Goodbye, Daddy.
23:51Goodbye, Father.
24:11Jojo, what are you doing here?
24:17Jojo!
24:31Jojo, what are you doing here?
24:32Any brews?
24:33Thanks.
24:34Someone to see you.
24:36Eh?
24:37Hey, Mr Dermot.
24:38A lot easier on the eye now, Dermot.
24:40These long boys don't waste much time, eh?
24:42They do not.
24:43Thanks.
24:46Siobhan, I thought I was going to pick you up.
24:48I don't want you coming round my house.
24:51Why, what's the matter?
24:52You haven't been straight with me.
24:54This interview isn't about Ballydorgan at all, is it?
24:58No, but it's about something that happened in Ballydorgan.
25:00And that's not something I want to talk about.
25:02Well, why not?
25:02You know why not?
25:03Can I get you some tea, Siobhan?
25:05Peter, you're not looking after your guests.
25:07It's all right, Ma.
25:08It's all right, thank you, Miss Douglas.
25:10I have to go in a minute.
25:11But you only just got here.
25:13Ma.
25:16Nice to see you, Siobhan.
25:18I'll see you later, Peter, I expect.
25:21Aye, all right.
25:23Look, I have to go now.
25:24Siobhan, you haven't told me anything yet.
25:25I'm not going to tell you anything.
25:26That's what I came to tell you.
25:27Siobhan, somebody has to stand up and be counted.
25:30Fine.
25:30But why me?
25:33Because you were there.
25:35You saw the whole thing.
25:36You were involved with the whole thing.
25:40Aye, well, that was my bad luck.
25:42Are you saying after me got worse?
25:46Well, what kind of sense is that?
25:52What?
25:52Look, Siobhan, sit down.
25:53Come on.
25:54Sit down.
25:58Now, you said you were fed up with this place.
26:00And you're going to go to London.
26:02Well, do it now.
26:04Come to London.
26:08But what if I couldn't get a job?
26:09Of course you'd get a job.
26:10I'd help you.
26:12Would you?
26:13Would you?
26:13Yes.
26:15That's easy to say.
26:17All that's easy to say.
26:20Anyway, I wouldn't know anyone.
26:22You'd know me.
26:23My friends.
26:24I'd introduce you to people.
26:26I don't know you though, do you?
26:29Well, your parents would say good morning to you.
26:32I don't know you at all.
26:38Siobhan, everybody's got to take a chance sometime and this is yours now.
26:41Help me with the story and I'll help you.
26:43Even Stevens.
26:43What do you say?
26:48Siobhan.
26:54I can't do it.
26:55I just can't.
26:56Well, what about off the record then, eh?
26:58I mean, you just tell me what you saw and I won't attribute it.
27:01I mean, I won't quote it.
27:01Do you understand me?
27:04I can't tell you anything.
27:06I'm sorry.
27:08I'll just grab the book now.
27:17I'm in.
27:21I hope I'm not interrupting.
27:23No.
27:25I did your shirts and socks.
27:28Thanks.
27:33I see you're writing.
27:35Aye.
27:37Is it about the fight?
27:39If you could call it a fight.
27:41I suppose it was him what you're up to.
27:43Nah, well I probably would have done it myself in any case.
27:46Do you think it's a sensible thing to do?
27:50What do you mean sensible?
27:52You can't let things like this pass without protest.
27:55It'll only bring trouble on us all.
27:57That's not what me da thinks.
27:59I don't care what he thinks.
28:02God knows I've lived with that man for 30 years and I still don't understand him.
28:06I don't think he ever grew up.
28:09No, well I agree with him in this case.
28:13That thing you're writing will create bad blood.
28:17I've seen too much fighting between neighbours in this town already.
28:20But ma, you used to be a great rebel.
28:22I've seen too much of it.
28:25My brothers fought for Republic.
28:28And where did it get them?
28:30Australia.
28:32They couldn't find jobs in their own country.
28:35And what about you?
28:37When you want a decent job you have to go to England.
28:40No, but what about the time when the beach in North Point?
28:42I've seen too much of it.
28:43What about the time when you knocked the policeman's cap off and sung the soldier's song, eh?
28:47I've seen far too much of it.
28:56Listen ma, I'm only writing an article.
28:59I'm not taking up a gun.
29:02It's the same thing.
29:04Sour grapes and bad blood.
29:08It's me and him will have to live here if that thing gets printed.
29:12Not you.
29:16Come down to your tea, son.
29:18And leave that contraption alone.
29:23Do you approve of what they did?
29:25Approve of them?
29:27Course I don't.
29:29They're a bad lot.
29:31But we've got to live with them.
29:34Why else did God put them here?
29:39Come on down, son.
29:41Your tea is ready.
29:48I'll be down a minute.
29:55One must distinguish between the familiar English Bobby and the Royal Ulster Constabulary.
30:01The Ulster Police are the only ordinary police in these islands to carry revolvers.
30:06In times of emergency, they are also armed with Sten guns.
30:13You better see the Barak Hurdley Constable inside.
30:16In addition to the RUC, there are the B Specials.
30:20More than 13,000 over-armed and under-trained auxiliaries drawn exclusively from the ranks of the Protestant majority.
30:29In fact, you have all the elements of a police state.
30:33Not in Spain or South Africa, but in the British Isles.
30:38Such measures do not prevent political disease.
30:41They are symptoms of it.
30:43I know you are keyed up.
30:46Given recent incidents now earlier...
30:49Understandably...
30:50Oh, hello, George.
30:51Is your sergeant in?
30:54The sergeant's busy.
30:55You will never forget that we are fighting on the two fronts here.
30:59The military and the psychological...
31:01What's it about?
31:03Well, I'd rather tell the sergeant what it's about.
31:05First, we must be sensitive to public opinion.
31:10And your sort of demonious harassment on Tuesday is exactly the sort of action which alienates public opinion.
31:18Come in.
31:23Excuse me, sir.
31:24There's a man outside.
31:25Says he's a journalist.
31:26Works for some newspaper in London.
31:31Show him into the sergeant's office.
31:34I will talk to him when I have finished here.
31:41You have responsibility.
31:43One of them, indeed the principal one, is to see that the police is maintained.
31:48Is that the district inspector?
31:49Unless you can grasp that, you would be better out of uniform.
31:54If I ever hear...
31:59I personally will see to it that you never wear one again.
32:04Have I made myself clear?
32:09Well, have I?
32:11Yes, sir.
32:12Yes, sir.
32:14Yes, sir.
32:17Good.
32:18Do you know anything of this man?
32:20I know he's a local man, sir.
32:22Maybe some information from your people you already know.
32:28Peter Douglas, News Chronicles.
32:30Who did you wish to see, Mr. Douglas?
32:32Your lover's in charge.
32:33I suppose you have a press card you could show me.
32:36Yeah.
32:37There we are.
32:43Do sit down.
32:45Thanks.
32:46It's not often we have one of you London chaps knocking around this part of the country.
32:50You sound like a local man.
32:52Yes, I am, yes.
32:53School here and so on?
32:54Yes, I went to school in Laganbridge.
32:57Did you indeed?
32:58I went to school there myself.
33:00The Royal.
33:02No, I went to St. Ciaran's.
33:05St. Ciaran's.
33:07I knew your bishop a bit.
33:09Nice old chap.
33:10But I must say, I don't care for his taste in sherry.
33:13His sherry?
33:14Yes.
33:15He has it imported directly from Spain and our lads nodded through the customs for him.
33:20Very dry.
33:21I prefer Bristol cream myself.
33:24Yes, well I've never met the bishop.
33:26Inspector, on Tuesday night last summer someone was beaten up in Ballydorgan.
33:31There was an incident.
33:33Could you be a little more specific, Inspector?
33:37I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name.
33:38Rawlins.
33:40Rawlins.
33:42Is that R-A-W-L-I-N-S?
33:45Yes, District Inspector Rawlins.
33:47District Inspector.
33:50As you say, Inspector, there was an incident.
33:54A man was brought in and later released.
33:57Why was he brought in?
33:58I'm afraid I can't say at this stage.
34:02He was, er, hospitalised, wasn't he?
34:07Briefly, yes.
34:08And why was that?
34:09That was at his own request.
34:12Why, what happened to him? Did he, er, fall over during questioning?
34:16I have really no idea why he wanted to go to hospital.
34:19And are you going to prefer charges against Michael Ferguson?
34:23Come on, Inspector, we both know what his name is.
34:26We have no plans to prefer charges at this time.
34:29And have any complaints been made against the RUC?
34:31None has been received.
34:33And what about the B-specials?
34:34Are you going to be preferring charges against them?
34:37I cannot comment on that.
34:40Inspector, on Tuesday night last I saw three of your B-specials kicking the living daylights out of Michael Ferguson
34:45and you can make no comment on it.
34:47Are you saying that you were a witness, Mr. Douglas?
34:49That's exactly what I'm saying, Inspector.
34:52Then I think you should make a statement, don't you?
34:55I should make a statement.
34:59Inspector, I'll tell you what I'll do.
35:02I'll make a statement about what I saw if you make a statement about what you're going to do about
35:06it.
35:10Do you know if there were any other witnesses to this happening?
35:14Yes, I know of one other who you haven't scared witless, apart from myself.
35:20I really don't think I can help you any further, Mr. Douglas.
35:30I'm sorry I couldn't produce anything juicier for you.
35:33I do know the sort of things you chaps like.
35:37Mr. Douglas is leaving.
35:48Tell me, what is this play that you and Father Amon are producing then, Mr. Concanon?
35:52Oh, I'm producing it, Mrs. Douglas. Father Amon is textual advisor.
35:58Textual advisor?
35:59Oh, I see. And, uh, what is the play?
36:02It's not Shadow of a Gunman. Would it be right, Mr. Concanon?
36:05You would be right, Mr. Douglas. It is not Shadow of a Gunman.
36:08Do you take sugar, Mr. Concanon?
36:10Oh, yes. It's two, if I may.
36:11I'll just go and get it.
36:12A great Irish play by a fine Irish writer. Have you never considered doing it, Mr. Concanon?
36:17Shadow of a Gunman?
36:18Aye.
36:19In Ballydarmine.
36:20Part of our heritage.
36:21Possibly, Mr. Douglas. But, no, I must confess, thank you, that I have never considered doing it.
36:26And what is the play then, Mr. Concanon?
36:28Oh, if you want any more tea, Mr. Concanon, you'll have to help yourself.
36:32Thank you very much.
36:33What can I do for you, Joe?
36:41Good. Can you see it?
36:58Paint? Is that what you want?
37:01Where have you been, Peter? Mr. Concanon's been here a good ten minutes.
37:04Sorry, sorry. Unavoidably detained at Her Majesty's displeasure.
37:07Oh, get in there quick before your dad gets started on one of his hobby horses.
37:10Hobby horses?
37:11I need that, little one.
37:13You'll need a brush, Joe.
37:16Ah, here's the man himself.
37:18Sorry, I'm late.
37:19Hold the front page, hmm?
37:23How's the story going?
37:24Well, I've just been to see the district inspector.
37:28I bet you got a lot of satisfaction there.
37:30Huh, nothing I said so much as far as I try.
37:32So he wasn't too impressed with this powerful London newspaper you were?
37:36Who say do you want that?
37:37I'm on yours.
37:38Well, you could have fooled me.
37:39Wasn't it my idea that you do this story in the first place?
37:43Yesterday, if you can remember that far back.
37:45You know, the district inspector called to see me this morning.
37:49The district inspector?
37:50Mm-hmm.
37:51First thing.
37:52And what did he call to see you for?
37:54Well, last night I went up to see Major Dobbs and told him what had taken place.
37:58He and the district inspector are personal friends, which I happen to know.
38:02Major Dobbs was shocked, so he spoke to the inspector.
38:06And first thing this morning he's running your doorstep?
38:08Mm-hmm.
38:09He must have been worried.
38:11He was very angry, with the specials, and very apologetic towards me.
38:15Particularly about what Special Sergeant Robson said to you, no doubt.
38:19That was in the heat of the moment.
38:20And I suppose kicking the Ferguson boy half to death, that was in the heat of the moment, too.
38:24Mr. Douglas.
38:25Did he go up to the Ferguson's place and apologise to them?
38:28Or did he?
38:28The Ferguson boy is a bit of a layabout.
38:31Now, nobody can deny that.
38:33And he had given the specials a lot of cheek.
38:37Chairman, I don't believe what I'm hearing.
38:41I mean, we don't know what Michael Ferguson said to the specials, but whatever it was,
38:45it doesn't justify what they did to him.
38:46Of course it doesn't justify him.
38:47And we do know what they were doing to him, because we all saw it.
38:50They were kicking the holy shit out of him, excuse me.
38:52And the district inspector is very concerned.
38:55All three men are to be disciplined, very severely.
38:58Yeah, disciplined.
38:58Yeah, they were being disciplined when I was up there.
39:00I mean, I heard it.
39:00The next time you kick the shit out of a tig, make sure you don't do it in a public
39:03place,
39:03and above all, don't get caught.
39:05I don't believe he said any such thing.
39:07No, but that's what he meant.
39:08Does this mean you're not going to help me nail these three bastards?
39:11Peter, it's not a question of nailing anyone.
39:14The three men have been punished.
39:17Now, what they did is regrettable.
39:19Highly regrettable.
39:20Dermot, you were the one who went out there and told them to stop.
39:22Now you want to forget about the whole thing.
39:25I just don't understand you.
39:26The whole thing is just a hangover from the bad old days.
39:30Things are gradually getting better now.
39:32People are becoming more tolerant.
39:34Well, don't I have Catholics and Protestants both from this very community together in my place?
39:40We're not talking about your place.
39:42We're talking about young Ferguson getting his head kicked in by thumbs.
39:46And no one is prepared to do a thing about it.
39:48It's about time we gave them some trouble.
39:52If you don't mind my saying so, Mr. Douglas, you are as bad as an orange man in your own
39:55way.
39:55Now, your kind of talk may be fair enough and dull airing, but as you yourselves know, it cuts very
40:00little ice here.
40:02Even if we did get a united Ireland, we still have to live with them.
40:05So better start now.
40:06If you don't mind living on your knees and them boys kicking you.
40:10Look, the police here have had a pretty rough time lately, what with all these raids across the border.
40:14Now, if this was the twenties, there'd be a lot of dead tags around.
40:17A lot of dead prods too.
40:19For God's sake, you're still fighting the old battles.
40:22Year after year I have worked very hard to teach some kind of peaceful coexistence,
40:29and it's people like you Neanderthals that make my work infinitely more difficult.
40:32Are you sure that this peaceful coexistence, as you call it,
40:35isn't another name for the fact that your brother wants to keep his job in the county hospital?
40:39And you want to keep friends like Major Dobbs!
40:50You'll have to excuse me, Peter.
40:55But when complaints are freely heard, deeply considered, and speedily reformed,
41:01then is the utmost bond of civil liberty attained that wise men look for.
41:06All right. All right, Milton. You have a good memory. Always did.
41:11I'm not interested in who wrote it, Dermot.
41:17I'm interested in the fact that you gave it to me to learn all those years ago.
41:21And now I'm wondering why you bothered.
41:31What did I tell you?
41:38There is a way of dealing with such incidents familiar to every colonial officer from Derry to Bulawayo.
41:45The charge is dropped or minimised.
41:47The two zealous police or soldiers reprimanded.
41:50Any public fuss avoided.
41:57And, of course, the authorities claim this is the best way in the end.
42:02But in how many Ulster towns are such things happening at this moment in your name?
42:07And how long can a police state like Northern Ireland continue without radical and perhaps violent change?
42:22Hello. Does Michael Ferguson live here?
42:29Does Michael Ferguson live here?
42:35Does Michael Ferguson live here?
42:43Michael. There's somebody here to see you.
42:49Can't you at least rise up?
42:52It's all right. It's all right.
42:55Here's a seat for you.
42:56Thanks.
42:59Where are you?
43:00My name's Peter Douglas. My parents live in Ballydorgan. You probably know the wee shop.
43:04What do you want with us?
43:06But it was actually Michael I wanted to talk to.
43:09You're still probably very angry about what happened on Tuesday night.
43:13In Ballydorgan.
43:16What's it to you?
43:18Well, I saw the tail end of it from my bedroom window.
43:21I didn't see you.
43:23Well, as I said, I just saw the tail end of it.
43:26I was wondering how it started.
43:31It's best forgotten about.
43:33You're not going to be making a complaint?
43:35Complaints?
43:36You're not making any complaints.
43:37We don't want to know about any complaints.
43:39Complaints against who?
43:40Well, the police.
43:41Who should I complain to about the police?
43:44Well, the police, I suppose.
43:47What good would that do you mean?
43:48It wouldn't do you any good at all.
43:50And I'm sorry, but I don't see what business this is of yours anyway.
43:53I'm a journalist. I want to write a story about it from a newspaper.
43:56What newspaper? What do you mean?
43:58The News Chronicle. It's a London newspaper.
44:00What good were writing about it, though?
44:01Well, it might stop it happening again.
44:03And what good would that do us?
44:05What's done is done.
44:07Look, like I said, it's best forgotten about.
44:13Aye, all right. Well, as I say, I just came up to get to your side of the story.
44:19The specials are saying you started it.
44:21The specials are saying I started it?
44:25She's there lying.
44:26She's walking down the street with my girl, minding my own business.
44:28Aye, so you were with her.
44:29All right, Ma.
44:33I didn't start on it, then.
44:35These three fellas didn't follow us all the way into Ballydergan, shouting out things.
44:39Then I started on Siobhan calling her names.
44:43So I told them to go, you know.
44:45Aye, you swore them.
44:46Aye, you swore them.
44:47And swore to me for the past half hour, Ma.
44:49And that's when it started.
44:52Aye.
44:53One of them dug me in the mountain.
44:55And they knocked me down and started kicking me.
44:58And where exactly were you injured?
44:59All over.
45:01I came to in the hospital, didn't I, Ma?
45:03They brought her down to send me out.
45:05To discharge me, like...
45:06The police brought you down.
45:08In a car.
45:09And then they brought you back home again.
45:11Aye.
45:12And there must be a record of your treatment and admission at the hospital.
45:16Now, these three men, did you recognise any of them?
45:18Could you identify them?
45:19It's not identifying anybody.
45:21Look, mister.
45:23We've got nothing against you.
45:25But just go away and leave us alone.
45:27We want no trouble.
45:28No write-ups.
45:29And no police.
45:30Steve's got the kicking monitor, Sue.
45:32Don't you know anything?
45:34Can't you see the only one that'll get anything out of this is him.
45:37I'm just trying to...
45:37Ah, well then, just go away and leave us alone.
45:40What?
45:41What's all this?
45:43Who's he?
45:44It's nothing.
45:45It's nothing, Joseph.
45:46It's all right.
45:46What do you mean, nothing?
45:47I might be dying, not that you care, but I'm not blind.
45:51Look, mister Ferguson.
45:51I'm just trying to get the details of how the B-specials assaulted your son.
45:54My son?
45:55He's no son of mine.
45:57He hasn't been in this house an hour from a day.
45:58He came home.
45:59Breaking his most heart and mine.
46:01But he was hospitalised, wasn't he?
46:02If he'd stayed at the house like a distant round boy should, nothing would have happened to him.
46:07All he's good for is one about to pick the houses and dad saws.
46:11He deserved all he got.
46:13And not half good enough for him.
46:14Look, mister Ferguson.
46:15Listen, I tell you what you do.
46:16Get on out of here.
46:17Whoa, get out your dick, I'm with you.
46:20Sick of the Satan.
46:21Why didn't he stay on Eamon when he was in it?
46:23Come on, he had to bring annoyance out of the house.
46:27Sooner I'm dead and buried, I whiffed him about the whole lot of you.
46:30Sorry about that.
46:31There's always been like that.
46:32Has he?
46:34Sorry I can't help you too.
46:35It's alright.
46:36If it's just me, it'd be okay.
46:38It's the man, da, you know.
46:40I have to live here.
46:41Right.
46:41Me, I don't care.
46:43I'm away back to England in a couple of weeks anyway.
46:45Aye, well, good luck.
46:49How's London then?
46:53It's good.
46:54Eh?
46:54Maybe I'll try London then.
46:56Aye.
47:05Good luck.
47:08He's not a bad lad that, you know.
47:10Rough and all as he is.
47:12The two other boys, cute enough.
47:14They sloped off to Sheffield.
47:17Michael went there too, only he came home when the old man had his operation.
47:21There's not many would do it.
47:41Well, Peter.
47:43Where do you want to go to next?
47:45Might as well go to the pub.
47:46I've been everywhere else.
47:52Thanks very much, Mr. Carney.
47:53Right you are, Peter.
47:54Are you coming in to join me for one?
47:55No, thanks, Peter.
47:56No, I've other runs to do.
47:58Okay, good luck.
47:58All the best, Peter.
48:07Jesus.
48:09What a place.
48:11There you are.
48:12Yeah.
48:13Thanks very much.
48:14Bye.
48:19Well, have you a good day.
48:23Have you finished that article yet?
48:26No.
48:28But you will finish it, won't you?
48:32Can't.
48:32Why not?
48:35Because I haven't got the information I need.
48:37Nobody gave it to me.
48:38Didn't you see what happened with your own eyes?
48:40Look, not by a long shot.
48:42I saw something.
48:43I heard something.
48:44But not nearly enough.
48:45Look, my ma's right.
48:46It'll do more harm than good.
48:47And use the ones that affect them.
48:48We'll take that chance.
48:49Write it anyway.
48:51Look, Dad, there's no point.
48:52It'll change nothing.
48:54But then you were talking about questions in Parliament.
48:56All on account of your article.
48:58As good as a whole battalion of the IRA.
49:01Aye, all right, all right.
49:03I've forgotten what it was like to live here.
49:05I've forgotten why I got out in the first place.
49:07Well, ran away, you mean.
49:09And what about you running off to the States?
49:11I came back.
49:12Aye, because you couldn't make it over there.
49:18Sorry, Dad.
49:20Sorry.
49:25There'll have to be changes.
49:27Have you only just noticed?
49:29I mean, real, deep changes.
49:31The people are going to have to change in themselves before anything else can happen.
49:35I think you're yellow.
49:39Think what you like.
49:54Tell me, how are you going to put in your time over the weekend?
49:58I don't know, Ma.
50:00I haven't thought about it.
50:12Do you still go to the pictures?
50:15Once in a while.
50:19South Pacific's on at the Astor at Dungannon.
50:23They say it's tremendous.
50:26Do they?
50:28Aye.
50:32You wouldn't like to take me, would you?
50:35You know what he's like.
50:38The last picture he saw was gone with the wind.
50:47Aye, all right, Ma.
50:51Come on, mate.
51:15Move, move!
51:16No!
51:25Hold it, go!
51:26Come on, Joel.
51:27You tell him.
51:39No!
51:40No!
51:40No!
51:40No!
51:42No!
51:53No!
51:55No!
51:59No!
51:59No!
52:01No!
52:01No!
52:01No!
52:02No!
52:02No!
52:02No!
52:02No!
52:02No!
52:02No!
52:02No!
52:04No!
52:06No!
52:08No!
52:09October 1968 read by Martin Munkerster. Last night there was serious street
52:15fighting in Northern Ireland after 500 civil rights marches clashed with
52:20cordons of police in Londonderry. The march was in support of demands for one
52:24man one vote in Northern Ireland local elections and an end to housing
52:28discrimination. Ambulances took the injured to hospital while water cannon
52:34mounted on police vans dispersed the crowd. 15 people were arrested and 10 are
52:41still detained by the police. Mr. Gerald Fitt, the West Belfast MP, was among the
52:47injured. After receiving stitches in his head he said he was amazed at the police
52:52brutality. In my opinion they went mad he said. About 60 of the marchers have
52:59decided to write to Mr. Wilson demanding the suspension of the Northern Ireland
53:03government because they say it's incapable of ensuring law and order. They also
53:09want sufficient troops made available to guarantee their civil rights.
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