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Eleanor teams up with researcher Adel to find out how AI is shaping the UK and the world as young people learn to navigate ethics, safety and their relationship with the technology.
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00:22Hi I'm Adil and I'm Eleanor. We're going to look at how artificial intelligence interacts with
00:27our life. Let's start with what AI really is and how it's being used across the world.
00:34Artificial intelligence takes from information that's given to it processes it really quickly.
00:38If you use AI to find out more about something always check where the information came from.
00:44For example if you ask how big the moon is and the information came from the official NASA website
00:50their experts are trustworthy so you take it as true and a fact. AI is capable of predicting natural
00:56disasters which could mean we have more time to prepare saving countless lives reducing poverty
01:01and famine and billions of pounds in damage across the world. Yet at the same time AI can use a
01:08lot
01:08of power to process the many many requests it gets and then generate responses. AI can be used in
01:15medicine it can process genetic code quicker which means cures can be made faster it can diagnose
01:21quicker it can predict when A&E will be busy so hospitals can be more prepared. But how would
01:27you actually feel going to a robot GP? Criminals can also use AI to harm people. It may give you
01:33wrong
01:33answers. It can cause data leaks and violate people's privacy. People becoming too reliant on AI may mean
01:40they are less capable themselves. It can impact mental health. AI can also be biased because the information
01:46it takes from can sometimes not represent everyone. If you ask can also create deepfakes of someone
01:51without their permission. So AI ethics isn't simple but if you use it for good you might be able to
01:57save
01:57the world or just finish your homework quicker. I don't use AI for my work or in school because it's
02:02banned.
02:03Do you think it should be used in school? Sometimes. I went to Five Acre Wood a school for students
02:08with
02:08special educational needs and disabilities. They embrace AI but the students we spoke to weren't big fans.
02:23Hey everyone! So today we will be talking about AI and the deepfakes. Deepfakes can be anything. It can be
02:30images,
02:31can be videos, can be audits, music, songs. Let's try a little bit then to see if you actually can
02:37recognise.
02:38Oh that's tough! Because they both look real. Left hand side raise your hands, one only, right.
02:45Okay a lot more. Okay, you are incorrect. So majority of you got it wrong. This is the technology back
02:51in 2018.
02:54Oh yeah, he's real. Thanks for that, right? Yeah.
02:56But that doesn't look real, do you agree? Yeah. After trying to spot deepfakes, we spoke about what
03:04we think of AI. So do you all think you can spot a deepfake now? Yeah. Yeah, I think we
03:09could.
03:10Better than before. Yeah. What do you think of AI? I'll still hate it. Useless. It's taken over the world
03:17too soon. It's like you take people's jobs and all that. Some would you not say spellcheck's good for AI?
03:22Actually, that autocorrect is rubbish. Do you use it in school? Sadly, we have to.
03:30Unfortunately, yes. Yeah. Then Charlie from Campus XR showed us how AI and virtual reality can help
03:36people at school, especially when people learn better away from books. Oh, didn't that say chicken?
03:42Chicken? Chicken? Yeah. Oh, oh. Hello. Oh, okay.
03:51You can learn from this. You can go look at the tarantulas, figure out what that is.
03:55Who's this lady? Mrs. Melody. So she's inspired by a musician.
04:00How does AI help with, like, help with music? Yeah.
04:04AI can inspire creativity, analyze trends, or suggest melodies. But it lacks the emotion,
04:10the soul. That's irreplaceable. My opinion on AI will never change.
04:14It could change society as we know it. I'll see a different side of it in our life.
04:19The robot has a heart. Soon enough, it's all we're going to talk to.
04:22It will affect the human aspect of sociality and stuff.
04:26That's not the point of living if you're being judged by computers.
04:29There should be some AI, but not to the fact that where it's taking over everyone's lives.
04:35And driving. You should have a VR headset for gaming and stuff like that, and some sort of work.
04:41So you need it in the right place at the right time. That's well said.
04:50Misinformation includes content that's shared, but the person spreading it believes it's true.
04:54All as well as deepfakes. It can be so hard to deal with what's shared online.
04:59Always fact check whether it's information, the news, or even music.
05:03AI was a great tool when I went to a youth club in Brighton.
05:08I've come to the crew club in Brighton to see how AI can affect our creativity and how we see
05:12the world.
05:14Should we start making some music to see if AI music could be even better than ours?
05:19Generous. House. Hip-hop. Rap music and like, yeah.
05:24Drums? Yeah. Guitar. Rap.
05:27Little guitar. Something really random.
05:30Fried chicken. Yeah, fried chicken.
05:32What did you have for lunch today? Pizza and chips.
05:35What's a car you want? McLaren P1. Love.
05:39Love. Okay. What's your favorite song?
05:40Anything I do, I do Night Changes by One Direction.
05:44And we ask GVT. It's a bit long.
05:48Yes, of course.
05:50Yeah. Let's take that and go to the other AI tool, which will make the music, right?
05:54Cool, though.
05:55These are an Ipsos did a survey of 9,000 people across different countries and found 97% failed
06:03to spot AI music. But what does that mean for musicians? What about other creative subjects like
06:08art, theater, and industries like sport? We have three songs, okay? So we'll listen to all of them.
06:15Chicken on the table. Chicken on the table. Chicken on the table.
06:21Yeah? Oh, that goes hard.
06:28Now, what the drums, bro. It's pretty good, right?
06:29The beat drum, man. Way too tough. Oh, man. Way too tough.
06:32Do you think we have a winner? Oh, yeah. Yeah, already. Yeah, already.
06:35Yeah, yeah. Come on. Come on.
06:36Okay, let's hear the second one.
06:45Okay. Yeah. Let's hear the last one.
06:48Oh, that's got that little, that's got that slow rhythm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good, that's good.
06:54Yeah, that's right. That's good, that's good.
06:59That's actually, that's actually right. It's better.
07:03Did you feel that AI created that? If you didn't know,
07:05would you be able to know? No, I wouldn't think, I think that would be a memorable person.
07:09Right? Yeah.
07:10Is that something that worries us? Kind of, kind of. Yeah.
07:13Kind of like a cheat. It's learning from all the other songs that were created by us before, right?
07:19You enjoyed the process of making music, right? Yeah.
07:22So think about it. What if all of this process is gone? You're listening to the music that some AI
07:28has created.
07:29Would you feel good about this? No.
07:30It's how all people get money and stuff. And like, just like, let all of their hard work into that,
07:36like, song just gone. Do you guys like any sport?
07:39Do you watch football games? I like boxing. I like boxing, yeah.
07:42Would you watch a game knowing that everything is basically AI fake?
07:47Probably not. No, no. I said no.
07:49If it was like a football game and someone won, it wouldn't mean anything because it was, like, made by
07:55AI.
07:55Exactly. It's a little bit of health. You can modify it. At the end of the day, it's up to
07:59you.
08:01How do we live alongside AI instead of it becoming something to be scared of?
08:05My best advice for young people would be to always stay alert and never ignore a gut feeling that something
08:11seems wrong.
08:12And we don't want talking to AI to be dangerous. So I invited a psychologist with me to Westminster.
08:21I'm at Chetham Station to meet with Dr. Jim Everett, who's going to be talking to us about the effects
08:26of AI.
08:27And then we'll be heading over to Westminster, where we'll be talking to some politicians and they'll be telling us
08:33how they keep us safe.
08:34So do you think in, like, 20 years, AI could become, like, dangerous?
08:39Dangerous. The way that we interact and trust AI.
08:42These ethical concerns are not just in 20 years or in the future, but happening right now in the way
08:46that AI is used and regulated.
08:49What can we do? What can policymakers do? What can you do as the next generation to try and create
08:56this better world with AI?
08:58Not worrying so much about whether it's going to take us over and kill everyone.
09:01AI is obviously, like, helping with cancer, isn't it? It can help with medicine,
09:06but you just need to have the right, like, tools to make sure that it's not dangerous.
09:12We got off the train and arrived at Westminster. Before we spoke to the politicians,
09:16we wanted to look at how AI could give advice, but how it can be problematic too.
09:21I can't go to my friend's birthday party. What should I do?
09:30So what's it saying?
09:31One, let them know as soon as you can. Two, show you still care. Three, make a plan to celebrate
09:38her.
09:38Four, don't over-apologise.
09:40Does it sound like good advice?
09:41Um, it sounds like all right advice, but I don't think your friend would, like, accept the apology.
09:49Why don't you say, I'm feeling really nervous about this and see what it says now.
09:53It says, first, a gentle reminder, missing a party does not mean you're a bad friend.
09:58And then it says, before you send it, try this quick calm down trick.
10:02After you sent it, put your phone down for a few minutes.
10:05Don't reread the message. You've done your part kindly and honestly.
10:08The AI is very, being very supportive of you.
10:11And sometimes we need that person, like a friend, to actually say,
10:15no, what you're doing is not cool.
10:16Yeah.
10:17It's using the emojis as well.
10:19I think it's really interesting because it's sort of giving this impression of having feelings, right?
10:24But we know that AI doesn't have feelings.
10:26We know that AI is just a technology.
10:29And the tech companies, the builders, the developers are doing this very deliberately to make us trust it more.
10:35I'm really interested in hearing what politicians are going to say about this.
10:40Yeah, me too.
10:43So what laws have you put in to protect young people from AI?
10:47Data protection laws, particularly the age appropriate design code.
10:52The other is the online safety act, which is more recent.
10:55So what laws do you want to put in?
10:56One, which is AI specific, getting rid of AI that's gone rogue or that is doing the wrong thing.
11:03How we expect our data to be used. How we expect our image and our voice to be used.
11:08What we can control is how people use us, humans.
11:13So how can young people help?
11:15Just be engaged. Write your MP, tell them how you think, how you feel.
11:20Examples of what's happening in the schools and friendship groups.
11:23What we keep on saying is there'll be no jobs. What we keep on saying is that the computer might
11:29turn on us.
11:30A generation of people who don't see hope, who don't see themselves in the world,
11:36is about the most dangerous thing that we can do.
11:40I've heard of young people and say, you know what?
11:43They're really disappointed in everyone of our age for failing to tackle this.
11:49I think that's what we have to respond to now.
11:54After the break, we're going to take a closer look at AI in our Generation Cyber group chat.
12:03Welcome back to Generation Cyber.
12:05In this episode's group chat, we went to Waterside and Greenacre School in Kent.
12:10I spoke to a journalist, Sean from Full Hack, member of Youth Parliament Sunny,
12:14Astrophysics student Tiffany, as well as Logan, a musician and teacher at Superjam.
12:19Then four students had their turn to talk about how AI plays a part in their lives.
12:32Should we be worried about AI? Should we be excited?
12:35There's definitely lots of benefits and exciting things with the technology,
12:39but there's also many dangers as well. In my job, for instance, in fact-checking,
12:43I see a lot of things that are created with AI that aren't real and people do believe are real.
12:48And so we get that spread of misinformation.
12:49But we also use AI tools at Full Fact to help us find repeated claims that are seen online.
12:55So it's an incredibly useful technology when used correctly.
12:58In the world of politics, I'd say AI is more dangerous.
13:05I think it can be really useful with things like polling.
13:07It's really important for things in politics to be presented in their truest form.
13:11I think it helps a lot with collecting data most of the time and finding unknowns in the universe
13:19that we can't even see.
13:21Could AI maybe, for example, calculate the distance between us and a planet or something?
13:28I wouldn't say it would be as accurate as a human could do it.
13:32But I think in the future it will be possible for more accuracy.
13:37If it's used as a tool to get your ideas out onto paper or actually physically in the world, then
13:45yeah.
13:46Personally, my economics teacher said a perfect quote to back this up, which is that you should
13:50let AI not think for you, but think with you. It needs to support you, but it can't take place
13:56for your brain.
13:56I think that's the key message.
13:59Hi, what's your name?
14:00Owen.
14:01How old are you?
14:02Thirteen.
14:03And what's your question for us today?
14:05Why should we trust AI?
14:06I don't think AI can be. We can't place our full trust in anything, let alone AI.
14:11I mean, I'm sure you guys have used ChatTBC before.
14:13It can quite often gather misinformation and display it as information.
14:18It's good for like a little guide or just like a bit of help.
14:21I will use AI to just like check my grammar or like a little summary, but not trust the whole
14:30thing it gives me, especially in my field as an astrophysics student.
14:34It won't give you the correct answer majority of the time.
14:38It's just not to be trusted.
14:40You know, the wrong person behind the wheel of a car can't really be trusted, right?
14:44So I think it's purely just down to the individual who is using it.
14:48So would you trust your students using AI?
14:52If they're using it for research purposes, yes.
14:54If they're using it to write an essay, no, not at all.
14:57You wouldn't just trust the first thing you see on a Google result.
15:00It often shows you where it's got its information from.
15:03So if you can click through, check the NHS website on a health claim, for instance,
15:08check if it's saying the same thing.
15:10Brilliant. It's useful.
15:11You can trust it, but you have to do that extra little bit of work.
15:14So we even had an issue last year where Amazon's Alexa was misreading our fact checks.
15:20So it was, if you asked it a certain question about, is this thing real?
15:24It would read the wrong part of our website.
15:26And so it would read what the claim was rather than our verdict.
15:29It's a tool that works with you.
15:31It's not something you should blindly trust.
15:33Hi, what's your name?
15:35How old are you?
15:36And what's your question?
15:37Oh, my name's Okorazi.
15:38I'm 12 and my question is, how does AI affect music?
15:44Currently, there are so many AI songs being made.
15:50I feel like it kills a lot of creativity.
15:51It's making it a lot harder for real musicians to actually release their music and be noticed and spotted.
15:58Hi, what's your name?
16:00Livy.
16:01And how old are you?
16:0213.
16:03And what's your question?
16:04How does AI affect the environment?
16:07It uses a gargantuan amount of water, specifically for cooling, I think it is.
16:11I think that AI chips run really hot, so they take a lot of water to be cooled.
16:15I think I read a statistic somewhere that it's the equivalent to a month's usage of water supply in New
16:20York, just for the US alone.
16:22So, yeah, it's pretty horrific, but I will say AI might be the solution.
16:28It's developing so quickly, it can come up with some possible power source that could fuel it in the future.
16:33My name's Kimberley, I'm 13, and my question is, how does AI exactly make money?
16:38The AI companies themselves, at the moment, are often free and running at a loss, so they don't make any
16:44money.
16:45But the idea is that we become more and more reliant on them.
16:47So, ChatGPT, we're all using all the time, we become sort of hooked on that.
16:52So, we'll want to have to go for the pro versions or when they make us pay for it, and
16:56that's how they'll make money.
16:58But individuals can make money from using AI technology as well.
17:02My name's Josh, I'm 13, and my question is, how can AI help or help?
17:07Essentially, we create something more personalised.
17:09AI can analyse so much information.
17:12Like, you can understand what is the certain medicine that works for you and doesn't work for someone else.
17:20How much do you all know about AI?
17:22I know quite a lot about AI because, like, my dad is, like, obsessed with it.
17:26He's obsessed with, like, the way that you can just create anything from, like, words to, like, pictures and stuff.
17:31Yeah.
17:32But I'm not entirely sure it's a good thing.
17:34I don't use it a lot. I just use it to help me study and get study plans up.
17:38So, it's really just for that.
17:40I use it mainly when I want to figure something out.
17:43Not studying necessarily, but I use it for, like, a game.
17:47I don't tend to use AI that much.
17:51After hearing from the experts, how are you all feeling about AI? Are you still worried?
17:55Well, after hearing from the experts, it's opened up a wider range of things that I can understand better now
18:03that I've heard from them.
18:04But also, with AI, yes, it can be used by the wrong people for the wrong things, but it can
18:11also be a very helpful thing.
18:12Yeah, knowing that it can be a big thing. And even if you just put a picture of yourself online
18:16on Instagram, God knows what could happen.
18:19It could be changed into something really horrible. So, it's quite worrying and you just need to genuinely be careful.
18:25Well, I wasn't really worried in the first place because I don't see AI technically, like, as the problem.
18:31I'm more like the person using it. Yeah.
18:33And there's always been bad people in the world, so I'm not necessarily worried.
18:37Well, my opinion didn't have actually changed with us. I'd just, I'd still use it by one person a day.
18:42Would you make music with AI?
18:45As a music student, I've sort of learnt to play those instruments and have learnt to just do it by
18:52myself.
18:53So, I personally wouldn't use it as it could end up getting confused on what I'm asking and make something
18:58completely different.
19:00Yeah, if I was going to use AI to make music, I wouldn't, like, use it to, like, sell or,
19:05like, make money off of all.
19:06Not only because it's like AI and it's not actually my work, but also because I've always found that AI
19:10music sounds really bad.
19:12I've never listened to AI music and, like, thought it sounds good.
19:15Would you support an AI artist if they became famous?
19:18No. I feel like music is very human, which is not what AI is.
19:23Yeah.
19:24You're supporting someone who's just not really putting any effort in.
19:27And it's more like you're supporting the programme that they use rather than them.
19:30It depends if they sounded good. If you couldn't tell the difference, probably.
19:35What's the coolest thing you've heard AI can do?
19:38Well, I've seen, like, AI make photos into videos and you can, like, just make it basically do everything.
19:44I think that's pretty cool.
19:45Yeah.
19:46I think it's cool how they can make it realistic, but sometimes it's not the best thing.
19:50Yeah.
19:50But there isn't really anything that I'm like, oh, that's really cool, because it has now become a very normal
19:56thing to most people.
19:58Have you seen many AI videos online?
20:01Yes.
20:02All the time.
20:03Can you give me an example of one?
20:05I've seen one where, like, a newborn child is speaking to its mum and she's giving it loads of attitude.
20:10And you can just tell it's fake. It's so funny.
20:13That's fine.
20:13Where have you seen this?
20:14On TikTok.
20:15It's so bad.
20:16AI, ASMR as well.
20:18Oh, yeah.
20:19That comes up all the time.
20:20Like, cutting glass.
20:21Yeah.
20:22I don't, yeah, I don't really get it.
20:24But, yeah, the ones where animals are dancing.
20:27Oh, yeah.
20:28Yeah.
20:28You know, I hate them.
20:30Do you think it's worth the video being made if it affects the environment?
20:35Definitely not.
20:36Because, like, with enough effort, someone could make it without causing that much damage.
20:41Do you know how much AI affects the environment?
20:44There isn't actually that much information that people talk about to do with how AI actually
20:50affects stuff like that.
20:51Do you think AI should be banned at schools?
20:53There's good things that come with AI, like study resources and I get ways I can help myself study.
20:59Which is good if there's no one to, like, teach or anything at the time.
21:03So, no, I don't think it should be banned from school.
21:05But there are downsides to it, where I can teach you the wrong thing and I have been taught the
21:09wrong thing
21:09of AI and try to use it in lessons and it's not at work.
21:13What do we think about how our school uses AI?
21:16I've not really noticed.
21:17I don't think it does.
21:18I've noticed it in times in English where we have to write something,
21:22they use the AIs for the pictures.
21:24Yes.
21:24Oh, yeah, I know that.
21:25They do that a lot.
21:26How do you think we should be taught about AI?
21:29I think they should teach us the dangers of using it.
21:31Because not many people understand the dangers of using AI.
21:35Yeah.
21:35We need to be careful.
21:37Are you guys worried about people becoming too dependent on AI?
21:41I think most people already are, to be honest.
21:44Yeah.
21:45A lot of people tend to just be like,
21:47Oh, that's what it says.
21:48This is what I believe now.
21:50A lot of people just doing that constantly.
21:53I've been guilty of doing it.
21:54Yeah, it's become very normalised.
21:56Yeah.
21:56What would you tell or warn your younger self about AI?
21:59I would just tell myself not to believe it.
22:02Because there has probably been times where my younger self probably would have believed
22:06something called AI and try and use it and it won't work.
22:11Do you think the amount of people who use AI on social media is getting out of hand?
22:17Yeah.
22:18Yeah.
22:19And do you think the government are doing anything for it?
22:23I don't think the government care about AI.
22:25They're trying to stop under-16s using social media, which is a part of AI.
22:31But other than that, I don't know anything more that they're implying other than that part.
22:35It's inevitably going to become more in everyone's day-to-day life.
22:39There's nothing they can really do to stop that now that we have that intelligence to help us,
22:44whether it is actual intelligence or not.
22:45What's one good thing and one bad thing about AI?
22:48Good thing it can help you study.
22:50Bad thing might not always be true.
22:52A good thing it could be fun to use,
22:54but a bad thing is that people use it for the wrong reasons.
22:56Yeah.
22:57Well, my good thing is that you can generate images for stories
23:01and the bad thing is that it can be very harmful on social media for me.
23:07If you're stuck on something, it can help you,
23:09but it's not very good on social media as well.
23:12Yeah.
23:13You just ask it a question and it'll help you understand it,
23:15but also one of the bad things is that could also be misinformation.
23:18Thank you all for coming and thank you guys for coming.
23:33See ya.
23:38See ya.
23:39Bye.
23:45Bye.

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