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00:01Look over there.
00:02He's a big fat one.
00:04You see Mummy?
00:06Not yet.
00:07Who's that?
00:08Mummy!
00:09Hello, sweetheart. Look at that balloon.
00:12Do you want that?
00:15Do you want to say hello to your baby brother?
00:17This is Lenny.
00:18Hello, Lenny. Can I touch him?
00:20Yeah, of course you can touch him again.
00:22Good boy.
00:26Oh, big grunts.
00:28How does it feel, Daddy?
00:31I can't believe it.
00:33What do you think?
00:34It's pretty.
00:35Yeah, it's pretty. It's very pretty.
00:37You're amazing.
00:39How are you?
00:40Yeah, my back's killing me.
00:42Leaking milk all over the place, but...
00:44I'm happy.
00:46What do you think?
00:47He looks lovely.
00:48You don't?
00:5530 grand!
00:56On a scratch card!
00:58I couldn't believe it!
01:00I mean, like, something like that never happens to people like me, does it?
01:04Er, no.
01:05Never.
01:07Congratulations.
01:08Anyway, I can't drink because I'm driving, so this is on me.
01:15Cheers.
01:27No, no, I'm an idiot, really.
01:29You know, the first thing you do is you go and buy a bottle of champagne, don't you?
01:32You win money as big as that, but, like, I'm driving, aren't I?
01:35I just didn't think.
01:37I was so excited.
01:39What am I like?
01:46So, how broad-minded are you, then?
01:50You won't believe some of the stories people tell me in this cab.
01:55What guys are prepared to pay for when it comes to sex?
01:57Can you let me out, please?
02:02Look, would you say, give someone a blowjob for a lot of money?
02:07Like, you know, like, say five grand.
02:09Would you give a guy a blowjob for five grand?
02:12Look, I've texted my husband.
02:13He'll be waiting for me.
02:15See, yeah, you're a gorgeous looking girl.
02:17I love to have sex with you.
02:19Why not make a few quid on the side?
02:20Don't let me out.
02:21Just think of it as a bit of a laugh, really.
02:24Let me out!
02:27That's my husband.
02:28Who?
02:28Let me out.
02:30Open it!
02:37You're really wasting my fucking size tonight!
02:42My team has now taken over this investigation.
02:45And the number of attacks we are investigating has now risen to five.
02:49After further searches of our database revealed another possibly linked sexual assault in June 2005.
02:56So the plan is to put out a press release on Friday morning.
03:01With the object of making the women of London aware that there is potentially a serial sex attacker out there
03:07driving a black cab.
03:09Why has a link between all these attacks only just been made?
03:11From what you've just told me, he's been doing this for a minimum of three years.
03:15So why wasn't a link spotted before now?
03:18Aren't your team supposed to be looking for links the whole time?
03:21The link was picked up during a routine review of sexual offences.
03:24Routine?
03:25Well, your other routine reviews couldn't have been very thorough then, could they?
03:28Not if this was missed for three years.
03:31We're doing all we can.
03:33One other question, why Friday?
03:37Why wait until Friday to get this out there?
03:40Plans have to be put in place.
03:42What about other girls going out in London tonight?
03:45They're in danger too, aren't they?
03:47Please, A Whiley?
04:07Please!
04:12Please!
04:13Please, A dell open for me!
04:13Stop!
04:14No!
04:14Please!
04:14Down there, huh?
04:16Huh?
04:17Huh?
04:18What do you know?
04:45The key information is that we believe there is a black cab driver out there tricking women passengers into drinking
04:52a glass of champagne which he has drugged and then sexually assaulting those women.
04:59Typically he tells them he's had a win at a casino or on the lottery and that he wants them
05:03to celebrate with him.
05:05Then he offers them the champagne.
05:08Now we have linked five cases so far but we believe there are more.
05:13Which is why we're asking anyone who recognises this method or any method similar to this to come forward and
05:19help us identify this man.
05:21I can't believe what he said to me this time.
05:23I thought he was joking right?
05:25But he says if I bought you a ring would you move in with me?
05:28And I'm like what type of ring?
05:30And then he says a friendship ring.
05:32What?
05:33Exactly, I said you can get lost mate, a friendship ring.
05:36Do you want me to be at your house mate?
05:38Can I get a veggie sausage please?
05:39He's taking the piss isn't he?
05:41Just the one?
05:42Yeah, thanks.
05:44Rachel.
05:45What's up?
05:48I need the supervisor.
05:51A nurse?
05:53Works at a haven centre.
05:55Now she said she saw the sun today.
05:56And in July of last year they dealt with a girl with an almost identical story.
06:00Driver said it one big at a casino.
06:02Offered a champagne that she was convinced was corrupt.
06:04Well that's it, that's another six victims.
06:07Yeah, but the important bit is the cab was caught on CCTV at a university halls of residence.
06:13We've got a name and address for the driver.
06:15John.
06:16Derek.
06:17Warboys.
06:18Lives in Rotherhithe.
06:19Diff.
06:38Dis stones.
06:39I'm gone.
06:40Lied.
06:41How is br Watts.
06:41Diff nous.
06:49What's all this about, mate?
06:51John Wall, boys.
06:53Yeah?
06:54I'm a police officer.
06:56Can you come down and open the door, please?
07:02Well, I've been out working all night.
07:03What do you want?
07:04Come down and open the door.
07:16What is it?
07:17I'm Derek, Woolboys.
07:19I'm arresting your suspicion of six counts of sexual assault between 2005 and 2008.
07:23You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defense if you do not mention my question,
07:27something which you later rely on and call.
07:33You're on the way back to something liquid in now.
07:35House is being searched.
07:38Why didn't she flag, Dave?
07:40The girl then has told us about.
07:41Yeah.
07:42Right.
07:42I, um, I checked that out.
07:45Seems it was never recorded as a crime.
07:47So there's no criminal intelligence report in the system.
07:50What?
07:51It was only logged as a crime-related incident.
07:53But that's against protocol.
07:55The starting point is that she should be believed.
08:19It's not true.
08:22We are in prison.
08:22And, of course.
08:29Let's go in.
08:31Let's go in.
08:35Oh, well, good.
08:37I'll try this class.
08:38Let's go in.
08:38Have a moment.
08:38Let's go.
08:41A suspect was arrested earlier today, so we are now asking any women who think they may have been attacked
08:47by this man to please come forward.
08:50They may well feel that something has happened to them.
08:53We might not be certain what.
08:55But it's important for everyone who recognizes this man's behavior to get in touch with us as a matter of
09:01urgency.
09:02Do I admit making a mistake getting into the back with her?
09:06Could say got in the back to help her find her stuff and she flashed her tits at me.
09:13And what would you say to any women who do come forward who are perhaps feeling scared or vulnerable?
09:19I would say that they will be supported, that they will be listened to, and that they will be believed.
09:31I would go to Koh Samui over Phuket every time.
09:34Every time. I mean, both in Thailand, but Hannah said she sold three holidays in Koh Samui in the last
09:38night.
09:39What do you think of Koh Samui?
09:41Yeah? It's alright? I'm going there next year.
09:44Defo. Love Koh Samui.
09:47She's wounding me up though.
09:48Hannah, can you order some more A4? Can you get a coconut-scented candle?
09:52Can you go right and get me a coffee at Almond Milk? Not daring.
09:55I've actually got a question to ask you, Hannah. What's your man's bloody slave dial?
09:58Uh, I'm sorry. I think I've forgotten something. You what?
10:01Um, can you just, just tell Hannah I won't be a minute.
10:24It didn't even warn me.
10:27It's him, isn't it?
10:28Yeah. Yeah.
10:32It is. It is him.
10:35It's exactly what he did to me.
10:38Why am I finding out about it from a newspaper?
10:42What the fuck? What the fuck am I supposed to do?
10:50Frankie, I'm just feeding the baby.
10:52Are you watching the news?
10:53What?
10:54Just turn the news on now. ICV.
10:56One second.
11:01Typically, he tells them that he has won some cash at the casino or on the lottery.
11:06Then he offers them a drink of champagne, which he has drugged.
11:10Most of the women who have so far come forward have no memory of what happened in the period after
11:15drinking the champagne.
11:18They, uh, said at the start of the report that he was a black cab driver.
11:21Mate, that's exactly how you said it happened.
11:24They wouldn't listen to me.
11:27I thought I was going mad.
11:28I know.
11:29You've got to call him, Sarah.
11:31No!
11:33Oh, I can't go through that again.
11:38Please just think about it.
11:40I haven't even told Dad what happened.
11:43I was told by a friend about the story in the Sun newspaper today.
11:48And when I read it, I knew straight away that this man had done something similar to me.
11:54Yes, it was in July of last year.
11:57I was told when my case was going to be closed down that one of your officers didn't think a
12:02black cab driver would risk his license by assaulting a fair.
12:05That is what was said to me.
12:07Look, what I want to know is if the man who was arrested today is the same man who attacked
12:13me last year.
12:14Can you at least tell me that, please?
12:16No.
12:17I don't need a name.
12:23Okay.
12:24Thank you very much.
12:25I've got to go now.
12:30It's the same man.
12:34A long time ago, five years ago, before I met you.
12:42I was raped.
12:47But nobody believed me.
12:49The police didn't believe me.
12:52Not even Connor believed me.
12:56The man who did it, he's done it to other women, too, and he's just been arrested.
13:05Come here.
13:05Um, it's so sorry, I don't need to cuddle.
13:11They've put it behind me, and that's where it's going to stay.
13:15They've asked people to come forward, but I'm not going to.
13:21You have to go to the police, Sarah.
13:23It's enough.
13:24I know after all these years I was right.
13:28That that man did drug me.
13:31He did attack me.
13:34Beyond that, I don't want to waste any more of my life on him.
13:51Okay.
13:52Let's start with the allegations of you touching female passengers in your cab in a sexual way.
13:58How do you respond to this?
14:00No comment.
14:01Mr Warboys will not be answering any of your questions tonight, as is his right.
14:05But he has prepared a statement, which he is prepared to read out to you now.
14:10Okay, John.
14:11Let's see what you have to say.
14:27I am innocent of all the allegations that have been put to me.
14:32I have never made sexual contact with any passenger whilst in my cab,
14:36and I have also never administered any form of drug to a passenger, also whilst in my cab.
14:46I am innocent of all of these allegations that have been put to me,
14:50and offended that anyone would think that I, as a respected black cab driver,
14:55would be capable of behaving in this despicable manner.
15:02I'm completely innocent.
15:05Okay, John.
15:07You will be detained for further questioning,
15:09and we're also going to need some swabs and a DNA sample from you.
15:28It's been white hot all day.
15:30How many link cases?
15:32Forty-three.
15:34Forty-three.
15:35Forty-three.
15:35Positively linked.
15:36Same description.
15:37Same model as Upper Randi.
15:38And that number is only going to rise when the lines open again tomorrow.
15:41Forty-three?
15:42Yeah.
15:42I mean, forty-three.
15:46What is happening here?
15:48Yeah.
15:48Yeah.
15:56Oh.
16:20I just want to get it all straight in my head before I call them.
16:24A cup of tea?
16:25Yeah, please, thank you.
16:28Come here, you...
16:33I called him a lovely man.
16:38He gave me a cigarette and I said he was a lovely man.
16:45It can't be that I fucking said that to him.
16:49You're doing the right thing.
16:55Go on.
17:00Why did nobody tell me that you were going to arrest this man?
17:05Very sorry about that.
17:07Why did I have to find out about it through the newspapers and the TV?
17:11The answer is to do with the original team who investigated your complaint.
17:15It seems they only recorded it as a crime-related incident and not as a crime.
17:22So your details and the details of the complaint were never properly in the system.
17:27Right.
17:31Right.
17:34Because you know they...
17:36They didn't really believe anything that I said.
17:38I'm not going to sit here and try and defend the original investigation.
17:41Good.
17:41Because it appears that mistakes were clearly made.
17:46To be told effectively that I was lying was devastating.
17:52Do you understand that?
17:56Absolutely devastating.
17:59And I've had to live with that for the last five years.
18:05My parents were devastated when I left uni.
18:10But I've never told them.
18:12Or my brothers.
18:14What happened to me.
18:16Because we're not that kind of family.
18:17So when the police...
18:18The only people that I thought would...
18:23Support me.
18:25Turn their backs on me.
18:26That left me totally alone.
18:27Well if the CPS had reviewed the evidence in your case perhaps
18:30there might have been a different outcome.
18:31But unfortunately that is...
18:33Wait, wait, sorry.
18:35Did you...
18:37Did you just say that the CPS did not review my case?
18:42No.
18:45I was told that the Crown Prosecution Service had looked at all the evidence.
18:51And decided not to proceed.
18:53Which is why they closed the investigation in the first place.
18:59No, I can tell you that the CPS did not review the evidence in your case.
19:04The decision to close your investigation was made by the senior officers overseeing it.
19:12They lied to me.
19:14I am sorry to say we haven't been able to locate your Achieving Best Evidence video.
19:19Or any of the items of clothing you told us about.
19:22What?
19:23None of the items you were wearing that night were where they should have been.
19:26In the evidence store.
19:34I reckon they got rid of all my evidence when he was arrested because they knew it would make them
19:37look bad.
19:38I don't know if that's the case.
19:41I only hope that it isn't.
19:42Now, I'm guessing they were looking for the classic date rape drugs such as Rhypnol and didn't find any...
19:47No, no, no.
19:48But they told me that they found nothing.
19:49Like I was...
19:51Lying?
19:51No.
19:52Like I was lying about being drugged.
19:53That's...
19:54The test showed diphenhydramine, which is the active ingredient in Nital, was found in your urine.
19:59Okay, so if they'd have just...
20:02Asked me, I could have told them that I've never knowingly taken that drug in my life.
20:08There were drugs in my bloodstream.
20:09Yes.
20:11Citalopram.
20:12Codeine.
20:13Morphine.
20:14Hang on.
20:15I've never taken Citala whatever it is.
20:17It's my bloody life.
20:19It's a...
20:20Prescription.
20:21Antidepressant.
20:21Never taken an antidepressant?
20:23Okay.
20:23Why didn't they tell me they found these things in my blood?
20:27Why didn't they tell me?
20:31To feel like you're not being believed.
20:34And then to find out they couldn't even be bothered to do their job properly at...
20:42I can't explain to you how angry and brutalized and bewildered I feel.
20:59I would say that, um, based on just this conversation today, you might have grounds for a formal complaint.
21:07And if you like, I could give you the...
21:09The details of who to take that to.
21:13And who would that be?
21:15It's a body called the IPCC.
21:18The Independent Police Complaints Commission.
21:22You have heard about them.
21:25I work for a firm of solicitors.
21:29The IPCC, it's made up of ex-police officers, isn't it?
21:32Yeah.
21:34So the police market their own homework.
21:37I can tell you now they'll find that nobody did anything wrong.
21:40You are an old man.
21:46Absolutely.
21:58THE END
22:26Layla Mahmood
22:52Gary Simons
22:55Sorry
23:02That's him
23:13Sarah Adams
23:33Oh God, yeah, that's him
23:50I was talking to Mrs Purvis today
23:52at my art class
23:55She said her daughter's decided
23:56she wants to study law
23:58She said she warned her
24:00it's going to take many years of hard work
24:02but the girl seems adamant
24:06She doesn't even want to take a gap year
24:09She's going to start in September
24:12Admirable, don't you think?
24:20I'm going to the garden centre tomorrow
24:22if you want to come, Layla
24:24Pick up a few pots for the garden
24:27Fancy it?
24:30No, I can't
24:32Sorry
24:33I have to work on Saturdays
24:38So how's things?
24:39Yeah, okay
24:40Work
24:41I may enjoy it rather than enjoy it
24:43You're still smoking?
24:45Er, no, I've quit
24:48I mean, very occasionally
24:51I'm still trying to stop, why?
24:53I'm just concerned about your health
24:55My health's fine, isn't it?
24:56Yeah, well, that's good
24:57That's good
24:58I just, I wanted to say I'm sorry
25:03I saw the news
25:05and I've read the papers
25:07I'm sorry for not believing you
25:18Jack, go back into the kitchen
25:19and get yourself a Snickers out of the fridge
25:21Just go into the kitchen
25:22just take whatever you want
25:23but just eat it in there
25:25Go on, mate
25:32Sarah, I'm sorry
25:34Like, I'm so sorry
25:35I was in a room the other day
25:39It was full of women
25:40waiting to do identity parades
25:42It almost killed me
25:48All these women who'd gone through
25:49what I went through
25:51who would have been speared if
25:56if they'd only believed me
25:57I mean, you can't blame yourself
26:00Can't I?
26:02Did I try hard enough?
26:03Yeah, you did
26:04I know you did
26:04Just
26:06Sorry
26:11You know, my life's okay
26:14I'm happy enough
26:17Gavin's a nice guy
26:19We've got Lenny and I
26:22I thank God every day for it
26:28But I should have still been here, Connor
26:31Living with you
26:33Jack should have been living with his mum and dad
26:38I should have been your wife
26:40A love to you
26:49That's how much this has fucked up my life
26:56But thank you for your apology
26:59I accept it
27:05Jack?
27:09Uh, what's that?
27:13Come on
27:18See you on Monday
27:19See you later, me
27:44We're going to proceed in court
27:45with charges relating to 14 of the women he attacked
27:4714
27:50But there are loads more than that
27:52The CPS want to keep the case as simple as possible for the jury
27:55They're worried it could get bogged down in too much detail
27:58I'm not entirely sure I agree, but
28:00Okay
28:02We want you to be one of the 14
28:04And give evidence in court against war boys
28:07Me?
28:08But I'm still not sure what he did to me
28:10That doesn't matter
28:11You know, his offending had a pattern to it
28:14And your experience exactly fits that pattern
28:16And crucially
28:17You had a really good recollection
28:19Of most of your journey home with him
28:24And the CPS also think
28:26That your mother's evidence
28:28About knowing that you weren't drunk
28:30She thought you'd been drugged
28:32Will also be helpful
28:33So you want me to give evidence too?
28:54I said...
28:56I said...
29:06Okay, so we've heard from the CPS
29:08The plan is
29:10About 14 of the women
29:11Are going to speak in court
29:14But they won't be asking you
29:16To testify
29:19Why?
29:20Well, the thing is you
29:22You didn't pick him out in the ID parade
29:26It had been a long time
29:27And he looked really different with me that night
29:30And because so much evidence from your case has been lost
29:33Fucking destroyed in my opinion
29:37It's about not giving the defence an opening, Sarah
29:44That's hard
29:45Because I wanted to look the bastard in the eye
29:48And tell everybody what he did to me
29:51I wanted to have my moment in court
29:56I wanted to look him in the eye
29:57And say, yeah, I'm sending you to prison
29:58Because that's where you belong
30:02I know, I'm sorry, Sarah
30:05Sometimes in these
30:06These big cases
30:07It's easy to overwhelm the jury
30:10So the strategy is to
30:12To stick to the offences
30:14Where we've been able to collect
30:15The most comprehensive evidence
30:18I'm 14, is that enough?
30:21Well, the CPS are confident
30:22That this will give the trial judge
30:24Enough ammunition to put him away
30:26For a long, long time
30:32Mr. Warboys
30:35Freely admits
30:36A good deal of the circumstances
30:38Surrounding these events
30:39For instance, he has always
30:41Actively sought to engage
30:44Female passengers in conversation
30:45In his taxi cab
30:47Banter, as he calls it
30:49And he sometimes did this
30:52By telling them
30:54Falsely
30:54That he had won money
30:56That night through gambling
30:57And by showing them a bag
30:59Filled with cash
31:00But he says this was simply
31:02A conversation starter
31:04And his objective was not
31:06Sexual
31:06It was simply female company
31:08It was an icebreaker
31:10In that respect
31:12He is adamant
31:14That any sexual contact
31:16Between him and any woman
31:18In his taxi
31:19Was consensual
31:20That it was non-penetrative
31:22And that it was initiated
31:24By those women
31:31No, I don't remember
31:32Feeling scared that night
31:33You didn't feel threatened
31:35By Mr. Warboys?
31:36No, I actually thought
31:37He came across as sort of pathetic
31:39Not some sort of predatory monster
31:42Just a normal taxi driver
31:43Engaging in some banter with you
31:47I actually think that
31:48Harmless demeanour
31:49Is what makes him so dangerous
31:52Precisely because he puts you off guard
31:54As he hands over his drinks
31:55From the front
31:55He's like a
31:57A professional conman
31:59It's clear
32:00Would you agree
32:01That your daughter
32:02Had been drinking that night?
32:04A few drinks
32:05Correct
32:06So I put it to you
32:07That it's reasonable
32:08To assume
32:09That she was intoxicated
32:11I've never seen her intoxicated
32:14She rarely drinks alcohol
32:16She was in distress
32:18She was insensible
32:19She was like a rag doll
32:22There was something else
32:23In her system
32:23She was vomiting continuously
32:27You don't get like she was
32:28That night
32:29Just from a few drinks
32:40I swear by Allah
32:41That the evidence I shall give
32:43Shall be the truth
32:44The whole truth
32:45And nothing but the truth
32:52Two large glasses of red wine
32:56Yes
32:57And you drank those
32:59And then you go to the toilet
33:00And you are sick
33:03Yes
33:04I
33:04I sometimes get nauseous
33:06When I'm on my period
33:08But that was not going to deter you
33:10From your plans for that evening
33:11And you went back to your friends
33:12And carried on as normal
33:14In your statement
33:15You say you then had
33:17Two vodkas
33:18And lemonade
33:20Yes
33:21And did your drinking stop there?
33:24Or did you have
33:25Rather more to drink that night
33:27Than you've told us about?
33:29Not that I remember
33:30Shortly after you got into his taxi
33:32Mr. Warboys
33:33Handed you a glass of
33:35Something bubbly
33:37Maybe champagne
33:38Something like that
33:40And you drank that too?
33:43Yes
33:45Why?
33:46Because he
33:47Forced me to
33:49He wouldn't take no for an answer
33:51Oh but he's driving
33:53He's in the front of the cab
33:54Yes but he just
33:55He kept persisting
33:56And persisting
33:57And persisting
33:58But he can't actually
33:59Force you to drink it
34:00Can he?
34:00Well he forced me to take the pill
34:02We'll come to that in a minute
34:03My question to you is
34:04Why you felt
34:05You had to drink that champagne
34:07When you were not obliged to?
34:11Because
34:14He
34:14He wouldn't take no for an answer
34:17Or is the reality
34:19That he was being a very chatty
34:20And personable taxi driver
34:22Engaging in some banter with you
34:24Who'd offered you a drink
34:26And which you had accepted
34:27And drank perfectly happily
34:30No
34:32You say you remember him
34:34Getting into the back of the cab
34:36With pills in his hand
34:37And that he forced one into your mouth
34:39Right?
34:40Yes
34:41And what are you doing to resist?
34:46Well I'm
34:49Trying to
34:51Move him away from me
34:52So you were perfectly able to struggle
34:55And resist
34:55Yeah
34:56But you don't mention struggling and resisting
34:59In your police statement
35:03Well
35:04If it's not there
35:06It's not there
35:07But I was
35:08I was feeling quite
35:10Drowsy after he made me drink the champagne
35:12And after the pill went down
35:13Your mind
35:14Is pretty much
35:16Straight away a blank
35:17Thereafter
35:19Yes
35:20So we really are in the realms of almost
35:22Instant unconsciousness
35:26Yes
35:27That's right
35:28Well I suggest to you
35:29That you'd already consumed a large amount of alcohol
35:32Before you got in Mr. Warboy's taxi
35:34And that he did not give you a pill
35:35Or force it down your throat
35:37Do you disagree with me?
35:39Yes
35:39And you can't make up your mind
35:41Whether you could or couldn't fight him off
35:43Or did or didn't have a lot to drink
35:45Or pretty much anything else that night
35:46Because you were so intoxicated
36:02Layla
36:03I just want to thank you for giving evidence
36:05I don't think there's any doubt he'll be found guilty
36:08I thought you held up really well in there
36:11Did you?
36:12Yeah
36:13Yeah
36:13That was tough
36:16Layla
36:16Can I get you anything?
36:17A cup of tea?
36:18No thanks
36:18I'd just like to go home
36:19I'm Debbie from the police press office
36:22I just wondered if you'd consider waiving your anonymity
36:25And providing us with some media interviews
36:27What?
36:28We just thought if someone could stand up
36:30Someone articulate like yourself
36:32And talk about what had happened to you
36:33This might encourage more women to come forward
36:36No
36:37No
36:37I can't
36:38I can't do that
36:38I'm sorry
36:40You've got the wrong person
36:41Sorry
36:57Hi
36:58I'm sorry
36:58I'm Sarah
36:59Do I know you?
37:00I've been through exactly what you've been through
37:03Have you got time for a coffee?
37:06I wanted to punch that fucking barrister in his stupid face
37:12Like why is it okay
37:14For him to make out I'm a liar?
37:16He was going through every tiny thing in your statement
37:18In my new detail
37:19Just trying to find some little thing to pick away at
37:21Why is that still happening?
37:23I was raging too
37:24Just watch it
37:24What is the point of this farce?
37:26He's fucking guilty
37:28You know I've been looking into
37:30Bringing a complaint against the police
37:31For the way they treated us
37:33And with me there was so much stuff
37:35That they missed out in the first few weeks
37:36It was just ridiculous
37:38Yeah but it's their own disciplinary people isn't it?
37:41What's the point?
37:42I'm not talking about going through the IPCC
37:44I want to make some proper noise
37:47I'm looking into suing them
37:49Suing?
37:50Yeah
37:52There's a lawyer I've been put in touch with
37:54Who might be prepared to take it on
37:56She's called Harriet Wisterich
37:58She's got a great reputation
38:00But
38:01I can't do it by myself
38:03I had a quick chat with her
38:04And she said it'd be a much stronger case
38:06If there was someone else
38:07Who had been through the same thing
38:09So you're asking
38:11Do I want to sue the police
38:13With you?
38:14Well yeah
38:17You don't have to make
38:18A decision
38:19Yes
38:20What?
38:21Yes
38:22Let's sue the bastards
38:23Oh
38:25Great
38:26Yeah
38:45You developed and perfected a web of deceit
38:50That was sufficient to ensnare young
38:52Intelligent and sensible women
38:54Who had enjoyed a night out
38:56And whose only mistake
38:57As it turned out
38:58Was to get into your cab
39:01Late at night
39:03There is no doubt that you continue
39:05To constitute a significant risk
39:07Of serious harm
39:08Through the commission of further offences
39:11I therefore pass down on you
39:13An indeterminate sentence of imprisonment
39:16For public protection
39:18With a minimum custodial term of eight years
39:36I wouldn't worry
39:37About the eight years
39:39As I understand it
39:40The judge had to give a number
39:42But a parole board
39:43Still has to decide
39:44If it's safe to release him
39:45And I can't see that happening
39:47Eight years did spook me a bit
39:49Yeah he's not getting out
39:52Anyway Carrie
39:53Thanks for agreeing to do some interviews
39:55I think if someone like yourself
39:57Someone so articulate can stand up
39:59Then it will encourage more women to come forward
40:01I'm nervous
40:02But if it gives others a voice
40:03It seems like the right thing to do
40:05Thanks again
40:06Yeah
40:06I'll start to get some things set up
40:08Okay
40:08Okay
40:08Thanks Carrie
40:11What have you got to do?
40:12Well just some interviews
40:13About what happened to me
40:14They need someone to wave their anonymity
40:16And be a focal point
40:17My goodness
40:18Do you think that's a good idea?
40:19You're so young
40:20Do you want this hanging over you?
40:23What?
40:24They said it's important
40:25That more people come forward
40:29I'm just sick of us
40:30All being on the back foot
40:31Mum
40:35Could he really get out that soon?
40:37Because the thought of him
40:38Ever being released
40:39Terrifies me
40:40Me too
40:40Well
40:41Theoretically yes
40:43After eight years
40:44He could apply for parole
40:45But in order to do that
40:47He'd first have to admit
40:48To what he's done
40:49And his position
40:50Has consistently been
40:51That he is
40:52Totally innocent
40:53It's not just a psycho
40:55A fake psycho
40:56So his position is
40:57105 women have all
40:59Just made it all up
41:00It's up to 105 now
41:02Well I was told
41:03The actual number
41:04Might be nearer 500
41:06Is that correct?
41:07That's what the police said
41:09So what do you think Harriet?
41:11There's potentially
41:12Hundreds of women out there
41:13Who have suffered needlessly
41:14Because the police
41:15Didn't do their job properly
41:16But they shouldn't be allowed
41:17To get away with
41:17What they've done
41:19Well
41:20Neither of you qualifies
41:21For legal aid
41:22So you're asking me
41:23To take this on
41:23On a no-win-no-fee basis?
41:26Afraid we are, yeah
41:28Okay
41:30Firstly
41:30The problem is
41:31You can't sue the police
41:32For negligence
41:33Why not?
41:34The law states that
41:35If they could be sued
41:36They wouldn't be able
41:36To do their jobs properly
41:37Because they'd always be
41:38Looking over the shoulder
41:39Waiting for the next writ
41:40It's just how the law is
41:41I'm afraid
41:44But my advice
41:45Would be to pursue this
41:46Under the Human Rights Act
41:47And argue that
41:49The police's actions
41:49Or inactions
41:50Or
41:51Inactions
41:53Infringed on your right
41:54To not be subjected
41:55To inhuman
41:55Or degrading treatment
41:57Well
41:57That exactly describes
41:59What happened to us
42:00Yes
42:01The only problem is
42:03Is that it's never been done before
42:05And
42:06In your case Sarah
42:07There is a
42:07Statute of limitations issue
42:09You must take an action
42:10Within one year
42:11And it's been
42:12Five years
42:12Since the police
42:13Investigated your case
42:14And in your case
42:15Leila
42:16They could argue that
42:16However ineffective
42:17Their initial investigation was
42:18They did ultimately
42:20Arrest the correct man
42:22Should we be closer
42:23To on our way out then?
42:24But
42:24The first thing I would do
42:26Is I would contact the police
42:28And declare our intentions
42:29Now they will jump up and down
42:31Tell us we don't have a legal leg
42:32To stand on
42:33And that we're out of time
42:33But
42:34They will have to disclose to us
42:36Statements
42:37And other evidence
42:39And I'm betting
42:41That will throw up some pretty
42:44Interesting stuff
42:44The first thing I would do is
42:45To be honest with you
42:45To be honest with you