00:00I want to make it very clear I'd like some ice cream.
00:05That's one of the ones for my sweet tooth. I'm in.
00:08And I'd like a waffle cone.
00:10I don't need any icing or anything around the waffle cone.
00:14Great choice.
00:15Just give me a waffle cone, maybe a butter pecan.
00:19I was about to ask what flavor ice cream we talking.
00:23I'm not a butter pecan guy.
00:24Maybe pistachio, but the green con.
00:28No, no.
00:29Don't make that face.
00:30It is delicious.
00:31I've tried it multiple times.
00:32I am not about that one.
00:35Disappointing.
00:36Any toppings?
00:38No, no toppings.
00:39Shouldn't be a nut flavor ice cream.
00:40You're going toppings?
00:40Wow, I'm not going toppings.
00:43I try to think if I would put a mix-in in there.
00:45But I don't know.
00:45Toppings.
00:46Yeah, something like a fudge.
00:48See, I would go more caramel, if anything.
00:52I'll do that.
00:52Caramel, yeah.
00:53Yeah.
00:56Yeah.
00:57I'm an old soul with my ice cream choices.
01:00I understand it.
01:01Butter pecan.
01:02That's solid.
01:03Pistachio.
01:04Yeah.
01:04I'd say that's, I don't know, is that old school?
01:08Butter pecan, damn sure, definitely is.
01:10Yeah, that's fair.
01:11I mean, my grandpa used to eat black walnut.
01:15What is with you and your family and eating nut-flavored ice cream?
01:18He liked black walnut.
01:20He was a big fan of it.
01:21I was always in the fridge.
01:24Give me a cookies and cream on a waffle cone.
01:26I am set.
01:27Really?
01:28Yeah.
01:28Yeah.
01:30Yeah.
01:31No, I'd like to.
01:33I need more.
01:34I need more than the cookies and cream.
01:37Not a big fan of the cookie dough, either.
01:39Yeah.
01:40A little overrated.
01:41I mean, the ice cream cookie dough is okay, but, man,
01:45I can eat a sleeve of Toll House cookie dough raw, like, right now.
01:49Yeah.
01:50I love cookie dough.
01:52Homemade or Toll House.
01:52Do you love it?
01:53Really?
01:53Yes.
01:53I don't love it.
01:55I will go in on a bowl of literally just the dough.
01:58You're supposed to be baking up.
02:00Yeah.
02:01Any combination of peanut butter and chocolate.
02:03Is that real gin?
02:04Solid.
02:05Oh, yeah.
02:05Yeah.
02:06Solid.
02:06But I'm also, I'm not a cone.
02:07I don't do a cone.
02:09Put it in a cup for me.
02:10Make it easy.
02:10I am most time, too, but a good waffle cone.
02:13Yeah, it's good to, when you get to swirling around and you get it
02:15and you've done all the work early and then you have that when it's
02:18stuffed in the bottom and you can get to, yeah, that's it.
02:22I don't bring a smile to your face.
02:23It really is.
02:24It really does.
02:25Yeah.
02:26That's good talk, guys.
02:27Good talk.
02:28Glad we can talk about things like that together.
02:30We'll do.
02:30Yeah.
02:31Yeah.
02:32Yeah, I do.
02:33Yep.
02:33All right, Luke, you, you, I'm guessing you, you, the way you worded it,
02:38you're not about the Urodon trade stuff.
02:40No.
02:40You're not into this.
02:41Not at all.
02:41Not at all.
02:42But you're not against trading what could feel like, you know,
02:49maybe future or guys that could be a part of what this new core is right now.
02:55You're open to trading somebody.
02:56For sure.
02:57Yeah, I think if this continues, the season continues on this track,
03:01I think you try to trade Christian Walker.
03:04I don't know if there'd be a lot of takers out there.
03:05I think Josh Hader's another obvious one that you try to trade if he's healthy
03:09and you're continuing on.
03:12Urodon, I would never move on from, no matter how bad things got.
03:15I know we're playing a promo where I think PC is saying like it's too early for that.
03:19There's never a time for that conversation.
03:21It never works.
03:22You never move on from a star like Urodon, no matter how bad you are.
03:26Really?
03:27Ever?
03:27Yeah, I say ever.
03:28It didn't work out when the Marlins traded Miguel Cabrera to try to rebuild.
03:34Didn't work out when the Red Sox got rid of Mookie Betts.
03:37Hasn't worked out when they got rid of Rafael Devers.
03:39Thank you, Lou.
03:42I'd keep a player like that.
03:43I believe there's probably some out there that we can find that have worked.
03:46Maybe.
03:47Text him.
03:48Let me know.
03:49The best at what he does.
03:50I thought you were going to get to Soto.
03:51We haven't seen a lot there.
03:54But they've gotten some pieces.
03:56You might know how old he is.
03:59Another fair question.
04:01So, yeah, I would want Urodon to be Steve Carlton, where, you know, the Phillies lose
04:06and they win 50 games and half of them came when Steve Carlton was on the mound.
04:11So, that's what I would do with my star player.
04:13I'd never give up my star.
04:14Anyways, all that's to say, the guy I would consider trading, and this is only under
04:20the pretense that the Astros are not going to sign him to a long-term contract, which
04:25I don't think they're going to, but that's Jeremy Pena.
04:28If you're going to treat him like Kyle Tucker or even an Alex Bregman, well, then
04:33obviously, like Tucker, you might as well trade him and get something for him.
04:36But don't wait until this offseason.
04:39He'll be a free agent after next year.
04:41Trade him before the deadline this year because you could get so much more if a team is
04:46acquiring him for a pennant race and has him for a year and a half instead of just
04:50one year next year.
04:52I would love to keep Pena here in Houston, but just based off of how Houston, how the
04:56Astros have acted in recent years, my expectation is that they're not going to want to sign him
05:01to a long-term contract and give him the money that he would qualify for or that he would
05:06be demanding.
05:08And so, I would trade him, especially if this season is going to continue on the way it is.
05:12I would move on from him.
05:14You have too many infielders as is, and that's more of a short-term problem than a long-term
05:18problem because of a lot of those guys' ages.
05:20But still, you have a piece to move on the infield, and I would move Pena if the season
05:28continues to be such a mess and try to get the best package you can for him if you're
05:34not going to sign him to a long-term deal.
05:37Yeah, that's a premium position.
05:39You really don't have much lined up behind him.
05:42How much do you...
05:43That's my thing is, how much does Jeremy Pena get?
05:49But, you know, I mean, he's older than you think.
05:52Like, in terms of how long he's been rolling, I think Jeremy's...
05:56He's not that far from 30.
05:59And he's got to be 27, 28 that he's pushing, and he's going to want a new contract, and he's
06:07got to be getting close to that.
06:08I don't think there's that much club control left.
06:10So, I mean, I wonder how much he brings back.
06:14He had a really good season last year, and he had a really good playoff run the last year
06:19they won the title when he was the ALCS MVP and the World Series MVP.
06:24But outside of that, it has not been as consistent as it was last year.
06:31So, I wonder how much he brings to the table.
06:37See, by your metric, would you do this with Hunter Brown, too?
06:40Because I have concerns if he will sign Hunter Brown.
06:44No, that's fair.
06:45Because, I mean, Ema is not helping.
06:47Lance isn't helping.
06:49Any of these guys, Javier isn't helping.
06:52No.
06:53That he's giving money to.
06:55Like, is that a potential thing down the line?
06:57Is that the basis of, if they're not going to sign them long-term, then maybe I ain't doing it.
07:05Or maybe we need to move off of them, because they're not going to sign them long-term, and
07:09you don't want to get stuck.
07:10Look, and the Astros have gotten stuck multiple times.
07:13Like, they didn't get anything for Breckman, and he left.
07:17They didn't get anything for Springer, and he left.
07:19They didn't get anything for Correa, and he left.
07:22They didn't get anything for Cole, and he left.
07:25Verland, all the guys that they've left over time.
07:28So, I don't know.
07:29I don't know if that is, that'd be dangerous if that's what they're going to do with Hunter,
07:33if they're not going to pay Hunter Brown, should they get the most that they can get out of him.
07:36Right.
07:36And that's what it's all based off of.
07:38If I'm the GM of the Astros, and you tell me, hey, we're not going to pony up the money
07:42to sign Hunter Brown to his next contract, then, yeah, I would trade him with a year
07:46and a half left of team control.
07:48I would not wait until that offseason.
07:51That's the whole thing.
07:51We've seen that in baseball, where the package can be a lot different when you include the
07:56half of season before the offseason.
07:59So, yeah, that's the case.
08:00And that's the whole premise of this Jeremy Pena idea as well, that if you're having those
08:05conversations already in the front office, and Jim Crane is saying, like, yeah, you know
08:09what, I don't want to pay that much for a shortstop who's been inconsistent and is going to be
08:1431 when he hits free agency, whatever it is, 30 years old.
08:18If you're telling me we're not going to sign him long-term, then I would trade him, and
08:21I would trade him.
08:22The right time to trade him is at this deadline.
08:24And same thing with Hunter Brown.
08:25I would love to keep both of them, especially Hunter Brown.
08:27He would be my Steve Carlton.
08:28Keep him on this team for his entire career.
08:30But if I'm getting indications that he's going to be too expensive to keep around, then
08:35move him and do it with a year and a half left to team control to get the best possible
08:39deal.
08:39Looking at the text line, I think somebody makes a really good point, which is hard for
08:43me when we discuss all of these things, because the way it's trending, the Astros are trending
08:49to be involved in the trade market from a perspective we're not used to seeing them involved from
08:55the trade market.
08:56When you have the worst record in the American League, you're now 10 games under.
09:00But this person here, I don't want Dana Brown making another important decision for this
09:04club.
09:05And I think that is a fair one.
09:07Oh, yeah.
09:07Like, to me, any decisions like that, I think it is fair, because those guys don't have contracts.
09:14They're gone.
09:15Him and Joe.
09:16And we're doing a countdown on Joe every day.
09:18Dana and them are going to...
09:19You can't let Dana make the Jeremy Pena decision or that, obviously, you're done.
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