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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 06: Kidnapper's House/ Mother's Nightmare
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00:16Hey, 3532 had someone come up to his door knocking on it, advising that they need officer assistance with the
00:24possible kidnapping and murder.
00:57You guys on the way, you guys need more personnel down there?
01:00We got several cars arriving, we should be okay.
01:03Take place as advising, please cut your sirens.
01:09All the way to the south, so somebody can get to the west.
01:15I'm pulling up on Glendale, man.
01:17That's that white one on the corner.
01:23We need cars on the west side of the house.
01:26That's affirmative.
01:36Okay.
01:36Recording.
01:37Dispatch recording.
01:40What's your name?
01:42My name's Cynthia.
01:44Cynthia?
01:45Okay.
01:46So, who are the people inside the house?
01:51Heidi.
01:53Heidi Hammond is her name.
01:55Heidi Hammond is that bitch's name.
01:59He's boyfriend named Carrie.
02:01He's the one that was the aggressor.
02:03He's the one that had the gun.
02:04He's the one that had the baseball bat.
02:06Well, I'm just, I want you to, I want you to tell me what happened.
02:10Heidi brought me over here to help her clean her house.
02:12And then Carrie invited me to the back room to sit down and eat.
02:16When I was sitting down, I just seen the kid's body.
02:21Where was the body located at?
02:24It was in the couch.
02:25Like, oh, there you go.
02:26But you tried this in the very back seat.
02:28Just relax, okay?
02:29We'll figure this out, all right?
02:31Like, after I found the body, they started freaking out, telling me I had to stay.
02:35And he told me I had to sit completely naked.
02:38And he took a baseball bat and put it in my face.
02:40And I said, I'm not.
02:41And I went out there.
02:45Okay.
02:47Hey, guys, the female I have here said that, uh...
02:50There's a subject in there named Carrie that threatened her with a bat,
02:53but he does have a gun inside the house.
02:55All right, just stand up for me real quick.
02:57Put your, put the cigarette out of him.
03:00Okay, just block off these roads.
03:01We got cars rolling through.
03:03We have a block off over here.
03:08Make sure somebody's walking the bat.
03:10They're walking the bat.
03:12We have cars on there.
03:13We got like...
03:13Someone watch in the back of that house.
03:14Coming up behind you guys.
03:19Tanks cut here.
03:20Behind you there, you're good.
03:22We shouldn't watch this in the heli.
03:25Uh...
03:25Don't go around the James side.
03:27We're watching the house on this side right now.
03:30I've got eyes on the back.
03:32Harris, if you can throw your spotlight or your area light on, on that.
03:36Harris is going to be on the PA.
03:38You've got to call him out.
03:40If you're in 1801, come to the door now.
03:47Anyone in 1801, come to the door now.
03:54Come on out to the front door now.
03:57Would you hear him?
04:00He called.
04:05There is a van sitting out on the side of the house.
04:08Put this light on right now.
04:10Okay.
04:11There's someone in that van.
04:14Anybody have eyes on that on the other side?
04:16Yep.
04:17I've got eyes on the back.
04:18And I've got eyes on this lady.
04:21Get out of the van now!
04:27I get it!
04:29I get it!
04:30Walk towards them over here!
04:32Call already, you guys.
04:33I'm a one-man.
04:36I got you, Oxford.
04:38I'm down here.
04:39Hey!
04:42Yeah.
04:43Hey, guys.
04:43Watch crossfire.
04:47Man, walk over here to them!
04:49Get out of the van and come to me!
04:50Walk towards them!
04:54Walk towards the back of your van!
04:57Come to me!
04:59Come to me!
05:09Turn around.
05:13Are you having me up?
05:15For a moment, yeah.
05:17What's going on?
05:18What's your name?
05:19Heidi.
05:21Oh, God.
05:22Heidi, what?
05:22Carter.
05:23Please, can I have something to drink?
05:25Not right now.
05:26I've got this girl in Turkey.
05:28Who else is in that van?
05:29Nobody.
05:30So, who's the guy in there?
05:34Oh, my God.
05:37Talk to me.
05:38Carrie, I've got...
05:38Carrie what?
05:41He's...
05:41Carrie Hammond.
05:43Carrie Hammond?
05:44Yes, he's been terrorizing me.
05:47Like, non-stop, I can't get away.
05:48Just relax.
05:49Is anybody hurt in that house?
05:51Yes.
05:52Who?
05:52Who?
05:53I'm trying to help her.
05:55Who is hurt?
05:55Is somebody hurt in that house?
05:56Who?
05:58Two people?
05:59It's sick.
05:59It's the f***ing sick, yes.
06:01Is somebody dead in that house?
06:02Yes.
06:06I need to get away from him.
06:07She's saying somebody's dead in the house.
06:08Okay, listen to me for a second.
06:09Take a breath.
06:10Take a breath.
06:10I need to know...
06:12Who is in that house?
06:13There is...
06:14Alive.
06:15Yes.
06:16Well, I don't know now, but...
06:17Um...
06:18Try to get names.
06:19Um, I...
06:20Amanda.
06:21She's being...
06:22Can you get out of here in your brain?
06:24He killed Amanda?
06:25I don't know.
06:26He was trying to...
06:27No, she was alive when...
06:29Just a minute ago, okay?
06:31He...
06:31He had her...
06:31Like, foot of the bed.
06:33He's like, um...
06:34Snackles and s***.
06:35I'm holding her,
06:36because he's trying to make her strip down.
06:37And I'm holding her,
06:38and I'm trying to take care of the one...
06:40He killed her boyfriend.
06:42In front of her.
06:43In that house?
06:44Yes.
06:45He killed Amanda's boyfriend?
06:46Yes.
06:47I don't know his...
06:48Um, Tim.
06:49Tim, I think.
06:51It's so s***ed up.
06:53Did you guys hear me crying?
06:54Or is there somebody calling because I was crying?
07:00So...
07:00Listen to me.
07:01Listen to me.
07:02Look at me.
07:03Carrie killed Amanda's boyfriend.
07:05Yes.
07:05How?
07:05I...
07:06He said, um...
07:07With his bare hands.
07:08Oh, so you didn't actually see it?
07:09No, I didn't see it.
07:09Did you see a body?
07:10Yes, there's a body in there.
07:12Of the boyfriend?
07:15Yes.
07:16He can turn a body.
07:17And a...
07:18Um, a blanket.
07:20This girl's saying that Carrie Hammonds killed a girl named Amanda's boyfriend.
07:25Oh, my God.
07:25And the boyfriend is inside the house, Tim.
07:33Just get on the PA.
07:36Just...
07:36Hey.
07:39Anyone in 18-1 on Stenson come to the door now.
07:41That's all I want.
07:43That's all I want.
07:45No.
07:47Hey.
07:47If there's a possibility he's got a gun.
07:49Sorry, there's a movement at the north.
07:52Windows.
07:53Second floor.
07:54Harris, if you can throw your stereo lights on, on that.
07:59If you are in 18-01, Stenson, come to the door now.
08:08Hey, you guys on the southeast there.
08:10If they come out, are you calling to you?
08:12Okay.
08:13Anybody in 18-01, come to the front door with your hands, Michael, now.
08:18Come on out.
08:21Come on out to the front door now.
08:24With your hands up.
08:27Come out of the house.
08:29Come out now.
08:30Get out of here now.
08:32He keeps reaching out to the right of the door, though.
08:35Yeah.
08:35Hey.
08:35You want to move up and cover your guy on the PA?
08:37There's a possibility he's got a gun.
08:41Shut up your hands up.
08:46The mail is back coming out.
08:48It's Harry Hammond, if you can call my name.
08:50Come out now with your hands up.
08:52Harry Hammond, come on out now.
08:55Harry, come out with your hands up now.
08:58Do not reach down there again.
09:04He's got something in his hands.
09:06Come here.
09:06Hands up!
09:11Whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey.
09:13Stop, stop.
09:14Don't shoot back there.
09:15Everybody relax.
09:18Yeah, we're good.
09:20Everybody hold.
09:24Everybody hold.
09:26Do not move.
09:28Do not reach, sir.
09:29Do not reach.
09:31Do not reach.
09:34All right.
09:34How far are you with the Bearcat?
09:38I'm heading your way.
09:41It is on the perimeter.
09:42When I get the Bearcat here, we're going to get some guys with armor.
09:45We're going to go up and check him that way.
09:47Everybody else just hold.
09:52Everybody check in.
09:53All right.
09:54If you're rolling that Bearcat, bring it straight down Simpson from Broadway.
09:58Somebody, hey, can anybody, can anybody see on that side?
10:02Can you see him?
10:03Here.
10:04Keep an eye on him.
10:05You got him, Oxford?
10:07I got him.
10:08All right.
10:09All right.
10:10Oxford, cover the windows.
10:11Got it.
10:13We're going, hey, get somebody secure him.
10:15Guys, I'll go contact.
10:18And then watch, and then everybody else cover the door.
10:21Ready? Go.
10:22Go, go, go, go, go.
10:23Watch the door open.
10:27Over your shoulder, over your shoulder.
10:28I got doors.
10:33You good?
10:35Let's move up on the door.
10:38Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
10:42Okay.
10:43I need a couple more.
10:47Okay.
10:48Police department, if you're in the house, be known.
10:53Are you good?
10:54Ready?
11:01Got a long haul, multiple doors.
11:04Great.
11:06Go, go, go.
11:07I got the long haul.
11:09I got the long haul.
11:10Closet.
11:10Closet.
11:13We're clearing the house.
11:16Okay, you got one of these.
11:18Okay.
11:18Clear.
11:19Coming out.
11:20The long haul.
11:22Bedroom right here.
11:24Stairs to the right.
11:26Coming up behind you guys.
11:27Coming out.
11:29Got one little dog right here.
11:31All right.
11:31Police department, if you're upstairs, make yourself down now!
11:35On you.
11:36Got it?
11:36Go, Brandon.
11:37That is complete the target!
11:39Hey, one more!
11:46You got a long haul?
11:47Yeah, I got a long.
11:48I got a long.
11:50Go, go, go.
11:51Cover, cover, cover, cover, cover.
11:54Need one.
11:55Need one.
11:56In there, in there, in there.
11:59Get back, dogs!
12:02Hold on, we got another room back here.
12:09Get back.
12:15Ma'am?
12:16Ma'am?
12:17Can you get up?
12:18I need an officer!
12:20Go, go, go, go, go.
12:21Go, go, go, go.
12:22Go, go, go, go, go, go.
12:23Where you at?
12:23Where you at?
12:23Where you at?
12:24Back here, back here!
12:25I got a female down, and I got blood.
12:32Back here, dogs.
12:33Back here, dogs.
12:34Hey, you got any weapons?
12:35Yeah.
12:36Okay.
12:36Hey, I need you to come.
12:38Thank you, boy.
12:41Okay.
12:42Come to me.
12:42No weapons, correct?
12:43No, no, no, no.
12:44Okay.
12:45What's your name?
12:46Amanda.
12:47Amanda?
12:48Okay, Amanda, put that blood on you.
12:49He beat me with a baseball bat.
12:51Who did?
12:53Who beat you with a baseball bat?
12:55What's his name?
12:55I don't know.
12:56Okay.
12:58Okay.
12:59Come here.
13:00Come here.
13:03He's coming to me.
13:06Guys, we're coming out.
13:08We need to get her out of the house.
13:09He's been hitting the head with a baseball bat.
13:11He has a hammer on the way.
13:13Yeah, certainly.
13:16I got you.
13:17Okay.
13:18Keep walking.
13:19Keep walking.
13:20Not that one.
13:21Let him know he's coming out.
13:23We got a deputy coming out with a female.
13:25He's got a head injured.
13:27He's coming out the front door.
13:28The house is looking.
13:29Luke, tell him we're coming out the front.
13:31Guys, we're coming out the front with a female.
13:32Coming out the front with a female.
13:36Come back here.
13:36Keep coming.
13:37Keep coming.
13:38He killed my boyfriend.
13:41Who's your boyfriend?
13:42He killed my boyfriend.
13:44Okay.
13:45Come back here.
13:46Come back here.
13:47Come back here.
13:59Keep coming, we're going to sit back here by the street.
14:03My female back here is saying that the body is in the back bedroom on the left-hand side,
14:08covered up with a bunch of clothes and blankets.
14:11We need to check this blanket here.
14:14Sergeant Dean?
14:15Yep.
14:16Supposedly a body under all this.
14:18Okay.
14:19You want to just kind of pull the covers back on body cam here?
14:28Yep.
14:29We got a body.
14:32Oh, duct tape?
14:33Yep.
14:36Mail?
14:37Mail.
14:37Looks like it.
14:39It's the medic, isn't it?
14:42He's got razor mortis.
14:44No, not for this body.
14:47I don't think we're going to need it.
14:48Yep.
14:49I don't think we're going to need it.
14:51Anybody else?
15:02We have officers that are available that can transport civilian witnesses to headquarters.
15:09Can you do it, Sergeant?
15:10Yeah, for sure.
15:13Hey, girl.
15:14Got anything on you?
15:15Just going to stick to me.
15:16Hurry, any way, shape, or form.
15:17Anything?
15:18Hey, let me finish.
15:19Anything I need to know about before I find it?
15:21We have guns, knives, knives, and, um, as much as I can in the van.
15:26You don't have any on you currently.
15:28I don't know when I don't know what.
15:29Okay.
15:30I don't know when I see one.
15:31Okay, go ahead.
15:31We're going to stand up.
15:32My arms are hurting right now.
15:33You're okay.
15:34Ready?
15:35One, two, three.
15:36I got it.
15:38Hang tight right here.
15:39Is everybody dead?
15:40No.
15:41Hang tight right here.
15:42How do you...
15:44What's in your pants?
15:46Is there a gun in your pants?
15:55If it has been added, it's AMR 535-0525.
15:59Around 11 p.m., Evansville police officers were dispatched for a possible kidnapping and murder.
16:05An adult female victim was still on scene and told officers that she went to the residence to visit with
16:10Heidi Carter.
16:11She saw a dead body and ran out of the home to get help.
16:15Officers located 36-year-old Heidi Carter outside of the home near a vehicle.
16:22What's in your pants?
16:23Is there a gun in your pants?
16:25Can I maybe get a...
16:27Don't move.
16:32One of the females over here has a firearm on her.
16:37Let's get one of the females with a firearm on her.
16:40Yep.
16:43Quit moving.
16:49Yeah, it's loaded.
16:51It's not my gun.
16:56Don't move.
16:58What are you on here on West?
17:00Are you able to transport?
17:03Yep.
17:05Okay.
17:06A male rushed out of the front door in an aggressive manner, and several officers fired at the suspect to
17:12stop the perceived threat.
17:14The suspect was pronounced dead on scene.
17:17Once officers cleared the home, officers located an adult female victim who had been tied up, shackled, and had visible
17:25injuries.
17:25Another individual was located inside the residence, but unfortunately was deceased and beyond help.
17:32He had been restrained, duct-taped, beaten, and strangled.
17:37The manner of death will be released by the Vandenberg County Coroner's Office at a later time.
17:44All right.
17:45Just hang on.
17:46We'll get it all sorted out.
17:57Oh, my God.
18:15All right.
18:16All right.
18:20I'm right over here.
18:24I'm right over here.
18:26Oh, my God.
18:39It's Wednesday morning, Dale.
18:40I want to go back about 24 hours, maybe a little more,
18:45and I want you to kind of walk me through what your day was like.
18:50Carrie pushed me to just randomly find a woman that we could hook up with.
18:56And so I do that, and I talk to this chick that says, Amanda,
19:00well, she has a boyfriend, okay,
19:03and she was wanting to come over and have her boyfriend come with.
19:06I told Carrie, and he said no.
19:08So that didn't happen.
19:09Well, then fast forward, one day, I don't think I've seen him Monday evening.
19:13Amanda said something about coming over,
19:15and I did make a comment.
19:17I said, your boyfriend's going to watch or something.
19:20And what happened once they got there?
19:22Did anything, like, sexual happen?
19:25Mm-hmm.
19:26Okay.
19:26Did anybody else come in?
19:28What happened when Carrie showed up?
19:30He was very mad.
19:32He was arguing and stuff,
19:33and he just wasn't comfortable with another man being there and everything.
19:38Mm-hmm.
19:39He had hit him, he had hit her,
19:41and he had punched him,
19:44and he grabbed him with his bare hands.
19:48Did he ever do anything to her?
19:50Yeah.
19:50What did he do to her?
19:52Oh, he did sexual things to her.
19:53Um, he hit her.
19:57Did you call 911?
19:59I couldn't call 911.
20:01I couldn't be the one that could, that standoff shit happened.
20:04Why didn't you call 911?
20:05Because I call 911, I'm the reason why the cops come,
20:08and I'm the reason why he ends up killing everybody in the house.
20:10Like, I, he wanted, he wanted so, like,
20:14so, I don't know, it was wrong, it was wrong.
20:16He even been tied up and raped a girl in front of you.
20:19Yeah.
20:19You didn't think to call 911?
20:23Oh, I can't, um, can I help you say it?
20:29Because I'm, there's, I don't even know if they're shot,
20:33you don't.
20:33I understand.
20:36So what happened with Cynthia?
20:38Did she help you guys clean?
20:40Yeah.
20:40In the house?
20:41Yeah.
20:41Did you ever tell her she couldn't leave?
20:43No, I never told her that.
20:44Mm-hmm.
20:44I mean, I, I...
20:46Okay.
20:46Uh, give me just a minute,
20:49I'll be right back, okay?
20:50Okay.
20:52Can you use the bathroom or anything?
20:54Yeah, actually.
20:55Okay, hang tight for just a second.
20:56Okay.
21:09I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me.
21:13Um, so, Heidi's there, Carrie's there,
21:17hits Tim with the bat,
21:18hits you with the bat,
21:20restrains you.
21:22Okay.
21:22Well, what happened after that?
21:25He raped me.
21:26Heidi was there, too.
21:27She wasn't touching me,
21:28but she was there and encouraging him.
21:31And then he would come in
21:31and he would hold a gun up to me.
21:35What happened after that?
21:36Um, Carrie came in
21:38and he started to rub the belt around his neck.
21:41And Carrie stood there
21:42and he just, he kept holding it.
21:44And he was like,
21:45did you think you guys were going to get out of this?
21:49They told us the entire time
21:51that that's what they were doing.
21:52They were going to kill us.
21:53Well, what happened after that?
21:55I woke up at some point
21:57and he was wrapped up in a blanket.
21:58Mm-hmm.
22:01They pulled him out,
22:02but I don't know where they took him in.
22:04Okay.
22:05Who moved him?
22:07Ellie and Heidi.
22:09Well, uh,
22:11Amanda, I'm sorry
22:12if I had to go through all this.
22:14Um,
22:15uh, Carrie did not survive,
22:18so...
22:19Good.
22:20And we're going to make sure
22:21that the people are held accountable.
22:23Okay?
22:29Hey.
22:30I'm back.
22:31Hi.
22:31Can you see her?
22:32Yeah.
22:33Okay, good.
22:34Good.
22:35Are we okay to keep talking?
22:36Um,
22:37yeah.
22:38So there's some things
22:39that Amanda told me
22:41at the hospital
22:42that don't exactly line up
22:44with what you're telling me.
22:45Uh,
22:47like,
22:48you helped
22:49restrain her.
22:50You helped tape up Tim.
22:53Uh,
22:54you encouraged him
22:55while he was raping her.
22:56I encouraged him?
22:57That you hadn't done it
22:58in that room
23:00and made threats
23:01to both of them
23:03to kill them both.
23:12I think,
23:13uh,
23:14the way she tells it,
23:16you were a lot more involved
23:18in what you're telling me here.
23:20I'm a,
23:20I'm a lot more involved?
23:22Like,
23:22like,
23:23how would I be a lot more involved?
23:24What happened in the room?
23:25I have two shirts now.
23:26Can I take this one off?
23:27I guess you need to.
23:28Nice.
23:29Um.
23:32Ultimately,
23:33you did nothing to help them.
23:36In the beginning,
23:37and then,
23:37because he even said,
23:39because I didn't,
23:40I did nothing to help him?
23:41Okay, so,
23:43okay.
23:43You should have done
23:43a million different things
23:44to get help.
23:45What are you saying?
23:45I did the same s*** as him?
23:47I'm,
23:47what are you saying?
23:48Yeah.
23:49For the crimes
23:50that took place
23:51in your house,
23:52you are just as much
23:53as responsible as he is.
23:55Absolutely.
23:58All right.
23:59Well,
23:59I'm gonna go for now.
24:02Okay.
24:02I haven't talked
24:03to the prosecutor,
24:03but
24:04there'll be charges
24:05stemming from
24:06what happened
24:06in your house.
24:11Heidi Carter
24:12Heidi Carter
24:12was arrested
24:13and booked
24:14to the following charges.
24:15Murder,
24:17rape,
24:17two counts of felony,
24:19criminal confinement,
24:20assisting a criminal,
24:22carrying a handgun
24:23without a license,
24:24and abuse of a corpse.
24:48She needed to pay for her part
24:49because she was acting
24:52like she was a victim
24:53and Tim was the victim.
24:56He fought like hell.
24:58He fought to the last breath.
25:08And now that that trial
25:10is finally over,
25:12CB tells me
25:13she's grateful
25:13for the chance
25:14to reconnect
25:15with her now
25:1619-year-old daughter
25:17who's been by her side
25:18during this recovery process.
25:25I passed lax towing.
25:33He is an inexperienced driver.
25:36Okay.
25:37Oh, yep.
25:40Yep.
25:45He got out
25:50and my teacher
25:51was down
25:52and when he went
25:54to get back in,
25:55he wasn't able
25:56because he was able
25:57to pull it out.
25:58I don't know.
25:59He's right there.
25:59Okay.
26:00He'll talk.
26:01Hey, partner,
26:01you want to talk
26:02to me real quick?
26:02Sure.
26:03I appreciate it, man.
26:03I'm really cold.
26:04It's okay if it's in here
26:05because it's fine.
26:08That's fine.
26:09I did not know that.
26:12Please stay in the car.
26:13All right?
26:14Nobody else in the car.
26:15No.
26:15Okay.
26:16Just us.
26:16I'm the father.
26:17That's the mother.
26:17This is my son.
26:18He just got 20 minutes ago
26:20and said,
26:20Dad, I parked
26:21for the boat ramp
26:21and I messed up.
26:22I tried to get out of the car
26:23and it slid down.
26:24Well, you're not hurt, right?
26:25You're okay?
26:25No, just a little cold
26:26is all.
26:27Thankfully.
26:28What were you doing
26:28down here, bud?
26:29Well, I felt like
26:30I needed to get out.
26:31Okay.
26:32And I figured,
26:34why not park here
26:35and just relax a little bit?
26:37Relax and think.
26:38Okay.
26:38And I parked on the boat ramp
26:39and I thought it would be
26:40easy to get out.
26:41Uh-huh.
26:41But yeah, then it slid
26:45into the river.
26:45I was able to get out.
26:47We've called so many
26:48killing companies
26:49and nobody can help us.
26:51And then one of them
26:51said,
26:52just call the state police.
26:52I'll help you out.
26:53We've called this crash
26:54because we've got a lot of ideas.
26:56We're going to handle this, ma'am.
26:57Sorry?
26:57Is he free to go?
26:59I'm sure he'd like
26:59to go home and get warm.
27:00Yeah, it's not a crash.
27:02It's simple to see.
27:03Okay.
27:03This is stupid.
27:05So,
27:06I don't.
27:07All right.
27:07I'm going to take the tumba
27:09and then we'll come back.
27:29I've got a quick question for you.
27:31Sure.
27:32It's a back bumper.
27:33I don't know,
27:33you can probably see it from here.
27:36It's a lot of red.
27:38On the back of that.
27:40Yeah.
27:41Drip it down at all
27:41a little bit.
27:43Underneath the license plate.
27:46A little area right there.
27:47Okay.
27:48Okay.
27:48A lot of red.
27:51See?
27:51It looks like blood.
27:54Blood?
27:55Yeah.
27:56I don't know if your son
27:58hurt himself on the way out at all.
27:59He might have
28:00if he just didn't know it.
28:01I don't know.
28:02That's why I'm asking.
28:03That's a good question.
28:03He's at home.
28:04Let's make sure he's not
28:05got a cutter.
28:06He's going to bed.
28:07something out on him
28:08somewhere that he's not aware of.
28:09Maybe because his adrenaline
28:10was a little high.
28:12Maybe just have him do
28:12like a self-check.
28:14Make sure he's okay.
28:17Hello?
28:18Ryan, are you okay?
28:19They've seen blood on the back bumper
28:22of the vehicle.
28:24Really?
28:25Yeah.
28:26Did you get hurt?
28:31No, I'm fine.
28:33There's blood on it?
28:37Is it good?
28:38My car good?
28:39No.
28:40Ryan, they're trying to get it out.
28:41It's fire.
28:42We'll call you back.
28:43I'm going to move my car.
28:48I'm going to warm up
28:49while he works.
28:50Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
28:51I'm going to go sit in my car.
29:02Now, I'm on this job.
29:03What's the address of the emergency?
29:04Hi, there's an emergency.
29:06I found something in my son's closet
29:10wrapped in a plastic bag.
29:13Okay.
29:14What was it?
29:14I think it's a human head.
29:20It's a what?
29:21I think it's a human head.
29:23Why do you think it's that?
29:25Because it looks like it's all an ear.
29:28Is it all bloody or anything like that?
29:31It's a change of gum.
29:55Can you walk me inside?
29:57Let's sit down.
29:58Come on, sit down.
30:00Can I go in there and verify here first?
30:02Oh, yeah, please.
30:02We haven't seen it yet.
30:04We haven't heard of it.
30:04It's under the towel.
30:05Okay.
30:12Take it with your mother.
30:12Get up, love.
30:17I can sit there.
30:17You can go in the same place.
30:19Uh, well, just sit right there.
30:20No, no, no.
30:22I'll send it.
30:23Okay.
30:25I had a bad feeling about what's happened this weekend.
30:27And she said there's a bag in this closet.
30:29And she opened it up.
30:31And she called me and said, get over here right now.
30:37I caught her with a towel.
30:39Okay.
30:39Let him see it.
30:40Because we didn't want him to run.
30:42I don't want to look at it.
30:46I don't know.
30:48He's there.
30:49I don't know.
30:51I don't know.
31:0422 42 you clear for a call yeah you might want to call investigations the
31:11heads in the sink what's that does it sound by my voice that it looks real it
31:17is there's no denying it
31:27he left Friday night late in the morning our phone rings at my house yeah this is
31:33Brian my son Brian same name same birthday Jeff my first one my car stuck in the river
31:41wait wait what so we go there and he gives us a song and dance how it was a full
31:45moon he wanted
31:46to pull down a little water and next thing you know it's a one-wheel drive and try to put
31:49it
31:49in reverse and the car starts sliding and next thing you know you end up in a roof so we
31:53call
31:53we get there to pick them up we call the police so they call the tow truck company where's the
31:58car so where is the car so we towed it to Scottie's to see if they could fix it so
32:03I
32:03cause guys don't touch it I already caught him I said don't touch nothing was taken out of the
32:07vehicle yes I did what did you take out of the vehicle I cleaned it up so I put out
32:11bottles this
32:12and I'm like Brian why is there anything you go about that I don't feel safe there's a wallet in
32:17the car and I'm like Brian whose wallet oh I found just a boat lamp um everything incriminating
32:22at incriminating stuff where that stuff is yes it's all it's all at the house yeah it should be a
32:27green
32:28passenger car his car should be at Scottie's and it should be a green passenger car okay we'll work
32:34on that now I can't believe it oh my god it's kind of a time to not really know what
32:44to do so
32:47they wound him too I don't get it I don't have any answers how old is Brian he's 19 he's
32:5319 yeah
32:57mom what's your what's your name Terry okay are you okay do you need any medical but we're waiting
33:03on a call from my doctor okay okay so like I said we've got an investigation unit that's gonna come
33:08here so just I know you guys have a lot going on right now it's a lot to process so
33:14we'll work with
33:15you every step of the way as much as we can all right so hang tight right here I get
33:19to chat with
33:19my partners again okay what's going on man
33:46okay okay so parents have some concerns of some stuff they may have found in your room
33:53um yeah I believe so and what would it be
33:59a human head and hands
34:04like for real human head and hands yes from
34:09that fellow who went missing recently which fellow was that Warren Brown when did he go missing
34:17the night of the 27th
34:21okay and how did you end up with him
34:24I murdered him with what a knife okay do you have anything on he's gonna cut poke hurts
34:30stick me anything without reaching for nothing don't reach for nothing
34:32my phone and my wallet that's it well I'm gonna have you face that way put your hands on top
34:36of your
34:36head for me real quick I just want to make sure you know that interlace your fingers for me real
34:39quick all right okay where's the rest of his body at huh where's the rest of the body at it's
34:48what
34:49parts the body Brian where's his body down the river okay I'm gonna have you walk over here you're
34:55gonna sit in the back of my partner's control bar for a minute okay just sit back there and hang
34:58out
34:59okay how are you I'm good sir how are you you say your name is Brian yeah I'm not feeling
35:04too well
35:04you're not feeling too well I know these past few days I've been very very anxious that's
35:08understandable so we're gonna have you do here is I'm just gonna have you sit in the back here
35:12okay I'm gonna turn on the air for you in a second that way you're not too hot are you
35:16a hot
35:17blooded or cold-blooded kind of guy I am very cold-blooded I prefer cold well no actually sorry
35:22hot so you prefer the cold okay fantastic thank you all right so hop in here I know you're tall
35:27so it's a little bit of a tight squeeze but like I said I'll get that air in for you
35:30I'm sorry about
35:30that all right okay so I'm gonna have investigators come out here to talk and do everything up we'll
35:39keep everybody out of the house so I can just secure the house because we'll have to do a search
35:42warrant and all that stuff okay all right okay all right can I go in and get my things like
35:48my
35:48hair dryer and my not not for right now I would I we're just gonna leave it the way it
35:53is um I'm
35:55having the suspect head to the sheriff's office now just taking down the investigations
36:03all right Brian we're headed to the sheriff's office
36:11okay Brian thank you
36:15no problem sir
36:24so have a seat and we'll be with you in a moment okay
36:27thanks
36:28thanks
36:28this is Lisa
36:37hi how are you
36:39I'm okay
36:39good day
36:40never look good just okay
36:43okay
36:43can you have any seats
36:44um
36:45sure
36:46oh this is a special chair
36:53so we haven't met have we no okay and how did you get here so because I mean Murray's going
37:01to jail
37:01for this 15 years probably let's figure I fight it okay um let's see yeah it was the night of
37:11february 27th it was a full moon I'm cruising around and eventually driving underneath the bridge
37:20near the sheriff's office I'm like how can I oh yeah go ahead
37:27thank you
37:32so let's just say this is the office right take a turn and here is the bridge and it was
37:39right here
37:42and I was driving along and I see a shape here on the railway truck wrapped in a canvas
37:49so I'm like oh interesting that's a homeless person
37:55so I grabbed my knife and took the knife I pulled back the canvas and I stabbed his neck
38:02and I said I've been wanting to do this for a long time
38:08and when I was finished stabbing him he took out his last breath a grunt
38:14and then I cut off his head and I took the head put it in a leftover pizza box for
38:21the dinner a few
38:22nights ago
38:24I cut off his hands I put those in plastic Ziploc bags and then I cut off
38:31his right arm threw it out took the left armpit threw it out
38:37so it's somewhere around that bridge yeah they're still there there were all the blood is
38:49so I'm going to try going to sleep but I was worried I decided that's too much evidence the body
38:57needs to be dumped in a river okay god knows where he is now so uh keep an eye out
39:04for any
39:05reverse relay activity
39:06so
39:07so
39:36yeah it's right here yeah because there's an arm there's an arm there's
39:44another arm right here's a leg well could be the upper arm or a leg well
39:56there's three there there and there yellow tape it and then hold it because
40:02the potential is that there's a secondary by the boat launch but if we can get the lab out here
40:09that would be the best thing yeah get forensics out of here holy hell yeah well let's go
40:26you know brian i have to ask and i think you've answered it but i'm not 100 sure
40:31you said you've thought about doing this yeah um have you ever done it before no no okay you
40:40gotta ask right yeah i'm not a serial killer by no means i'm very curious how do you feel about
40:49all
40:54the next 15 years of my life book set in stone prison
41:05if i go back that night i wouldn't have done it knowing that knowing what it felt like
41:13knowing how this will turn out i wouldn't have done it
41:25the sentencing hearing started with the outpouring of grief for warren barnes a beloved member of the
41:31downtown community especially terry cohee the defendant's mother
41:41and the lesson i took from this no matter who you are no matter where you are what you do
41:48you are loved just like warren and you will be missed
41:52you
41:53you
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