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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 07: Mailman Murder
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00:099-1-1 address of the emergency yes hi i'm at sicily circle i need an ambulance our post office
00:17guy was
00:17just shot can you tell me where he was shot i don't know what to tell you i need help
00:29where
00:29is he bleeding from he's bleeding out of his mouth is he conscious is he breathing yes he he he
00:41is
00:41breathing he is breathing please send an ambulance okay ma'am i am sending them i am sending them
01:05so
01:10so
01:31We're at the corner of Heather Hill and Renaissance, and I'm out with Wheeler.
01:47I need you to go that way.
01:52About five or ten minutes ago, I heard three bang, bang, bang.
01:57Okay.
01:57And then I saw a guy with kind of about a sturdy guy with a jacket and gone into that
02:04direction.
02:05Let's start working south for a perimeter south, and then we'll get him set up east.
02:11Hang tight for just a second.
02:13Set up east.
02:15Here, hold him medical.
02:17Should we set him in?
02:17I did.
02:18Set him in.
02:19DB240-122-122-122.
02:21I told him to set him in.
02:23Copy there.
02:24We'll get him that way.
02:26Which way did you see him running?
02:27Huh?
02:28Which way did you see him running?
02:29I saw him.
02:30He's a close tail, and then run, run, run, run.
02:34Hey, Josh.
02:34Hold real quick.
02:36He went south from here.
02:38Can you just start mobile right now?
02:43Not the street.
02:44Not the street.
02:45That's the Heather Hill circle.
02:47Mm-hmm.
02:47He can run in that direction.
02:49Just cut into it.
02:51Hey, Pierce.
02:52Last information, he was running southbound and then headed southeast from Heather Hill circle
02:58diagonally through the houses.
02:59Go!
03:00Go!
03:16You guys here?
03:19I'm not close to it.
03:20I'll get a sheriff, Stephanie.
03:21Can you give me a favor?
03:22Go sit at Heather Hill circle in Renaissance right there.
03:24Just hold for right now.
03:28South to work on a perimeter.
03:30Okay.
03:30Southeast.
03:32Last scene, Heather Hill circle running diagonally southeast.
03:37Suction is necessary.
03:38I don't think like in any area.
03:40Heather Hill circle.
03:40I need suction ASAP.
03:42Pick him up.
03:43Pick him up.
03:44Pick him up.
03:44Pick him up.
03:45Pick him up.
03:47Pick him up.
03:49Where else?
03:50He said no air.
03:51No air.
03:52Stand by.
03:53Just throw him on the bench.
03:53One.
03:54Two.
03:55Three.
03:56We're going to see the description.
03:57Ma'am.
03:58First.
03:59Who do you possibly blew up with a man?
04:01All right.
04:02I'm going to get tape and start.
04:07I'm going to get tape and start taping it up.
04:12So did you see the person?
04:13Did you see him?
04:15Yeah.
04:15Could you tell, was he white, black, Hispanic?
04:19Looks like, I'm sorry, white.
04:22White?
04:23Okay.
04:24And a guy.
04:25How tall do you think he was?
04:27Could you tell?
04:28Similar to yours.
04:29Okay.
04:30Like my, your, this kind of height.
04:39That's a brown hair witness.
04:41It was dark colored pants, not blue jeans.
04:44Dark grayish jacket.
04:45Did not have a hat or a hoodie on.
04:48And believes it's a white male around 5'11".
04:50Lasting south eastbound on Heather Hill running through the house.
04:54Christie.
04:55Christie.
04:56Christie.
04:58Span it up to here.
05:00Bring that to this box.
05:01And then when they're out, we'll go across.
05:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:04So I'm just trying to.
05:05Yeah, just bring it to this here.
05:07Okay, hold it.
05:07Okay.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Hey.
05:09Which way are you guys going?
05:10We're calling him.
05:11And we gotta get everybody out of here.
05:13So, for our safety.
05:15Is the police officer gonna go behind us?
05:17Well, we're not getting shot and killed.
05:19So, yeah.
05:20So we, we've got those.
05:20So what we'll do, we can't have you go.
05:22But so far, um, we're good in this area.
05:25Cause we're gonna have like 20 cops here.
05:27Is it a handgun or a rifle?
05:29Yeah.
05:29So just hang tight one second.
05:31Hang tight.
05:31Yeah.
05:48Oh, what's going on?
05:52Uh, we've got a crime scene over here.
05:54Okay, so this is a little bit, it's in Sicily Drive.
05:59So we thought on Sicily Circle it wasn't a problem.
06:02Yeah, no, it was actually right here.
06:04Right over here.
06:05Or should we stay at the house or?
06:06I don't know if you've got the reverse 911 call, but there is still a suspect at large
06:10in the neighborhood.
06:11So just be aware of that.
06:14Uh, I would advise that.
06:16Do you guys have cameras?
06:19We do.
06:19Right across?
06:20Can you look, go look at your cameras for me?
06:22I can't, I can't see anything.
06:24I was trying to see it.
06:26It's, it's not the very original map of your house.
06:30If you can see within the last maybe 20 minutes anybody that matches the description of the
06:35suspect walking by, can you do that?
06:41Yeah, but if he walked by prior to the incident.
06:44Does that make sense?
06:46Yeah, and if you can get, if you know any of your neighbors that have cameras to do the
06:50same thing, check like even an hour, see if he's casing, you know, up and down the.
06:56See, it happened at 1231.
06:59I was in my garage cleaning out.
07:00You heard it?
07:01I heard five shots.
07:02Okay.
07:03That's gunshots.
07:04All right.
07:04I should remember that.
07:06You said 1231?
07:071231.
07:07I looked at my wife and I just pulled in five minutes earlier.
07:11Was it, was he here?
07:12He was here.
07:13He was here.
07:13He was here.
07:15And I heard the shot.
07:17It was a big gun.
07:18Okay.
07:19Big gun?
07:20Yeah.
07:20I think it was so surprising.
07:22It wasn't a small gun at all.
07:23Okay.
07:23I'm just going to walk over here and see if I can't find.
07:42I got, this guy heard five shots.
07:45So I've got a shell with casing right here.
07:49Um, I have, looks like it was possibly coming from this direction because I have something
07:57hitting the sidewalk here.
08:01Here's this shell casing here, shell casing here, shell casing here.
08:04Who after you got here?
08:06Um, huh?
08:07Who after you got here?
08:08Uh, Douglas got here.
08:09And I forgot to hit my recorder.
08:12I hit it.
08:13Later.
08:14Wait, I apologize.
08:15Let's have you step out of there.
08:22Yeah.
08:23We saw the event part of it.
08:28So, I'm sorry.
08:30Absolutely.
08:31Yes, sir.
08:37Hello.
08:38How you doing, sir?
08:40I was on Pike and it becomes Renaissance from either Maxwell or Petro.
08:46Yes, my name's John.
08:47My name's John.
08:47I'm John.
08:47Yeah.
08:48Is it okay?
08:48We go in the house.
08:49My back is bad.
08:50I can't stand for very long.
08:51Let's go in the house.
08:52Don't give you the intro, John.
08:54We were in the house.
08:55We heard boom, boom, boom, boom.
08:59Annette came out of her office and she said, I think something just happened to our mailman.
09:03And, uh, take him up to your office and show him the note he looked out of.
09:14Sitting at my desk.
09:15I know the mailman comes noonish, so I had seen the truck out there.
09:20I saw a man in a hoodie jogging on that path.
09:26So I saw him jog on that path and then I saw him cut over to the road and I
09:31didn't follow
09:32where he went from there.
09:34I didn't see a gun.
09:36I didn't see anything in his hands or anything like that.
09:39Just a jogging pace.
09:42The postman was taking a breath or two, but I think those were his last breaths.
09:50And, uh, when did you call 911?
09:53Was it up here?
09:55It was down the street.
09:56It was at 1233.
09:59Hello, sir.
10:00Hello, sir.
10:01Hey, question for you.
10:02Do you have any, like, ring doorbell cameras?
10:05Uh, exterior cameras?
10:06Actually do.
10:09Okay.
10:10Do you mind if we take a look?
10:11We just want to kind of look and see what was down there.
10:13Absolutely okay.
10:13I hope anything.
10:14I hope some man's going on.
10:16Yeah, unfortunately, there is, but...
10:18Somebody you're looking for.
10:19Um, yeah, we're looking to see what we can find on camera in the neighborhood.
10:23Okay.
10:23All right.
10:24Coming out the front door.
10:25We're looking for around noonish to 1230.
10:29Did you hear or see anything suspicious around this area?
10:32I see that you have cameras.
10:33I just looked at all, nothing.
10:34Have you heard anything in the last hour and a half or so?
10:38You did not hear anything.
10:39I know you heard a bunch of sirens.
10:40Well, I walked, I mean, frankly, my neighbor and I walked over and we saw what happened.
10:44Okay.
10:44So, we talked to the neighbor there.
10:46I'm the president of the HOA.
10:47Okay.
10:47So, are you able to communicate with your HOA and everybody?
10:51And send out an email.
10:52Yeah.
10:52Ask them to check there if anybody has doorbells, cameras, stuff like that.
10:56Yeah.
10:56For any suspicious activity between 1145 and 1245.
11:03Okay.
11:09So, here's kind of where, here he is walking up.
11:13Oh, he walked around, but he walked behind those houses.
11:17And you'll hear the gunshots, actually.
11:19Heh, really.
11:48I don't know.
12:31We learned the name of the postal carrier targeted in a deadly shooting in Longmont.
12:36Jason Schaefer was killed just doing his job right here delivering mail to a quiet neighborhood.
13:09I have a resident that has an older detached garage and she's concerned that this thing might be in her
13:16garage.
13:17And Frankie, get another unit over here.
13:21Copy, take.
13:27121.
13:29A little bit seriously in the garage.
13:34I'll pop it.
13:35Yeah, go ahead and pop it.
13:45Longmont Police Department.
13:47Anybody inside, make yourself known now.
13:56Let's go.
13:58Okay.
14:04Make sure you check up high.
14:06Okay.
14:13Drywall stealing.
14:16What's in?
14:18High corner.
14:18Here's clear.
14:27Can I get these back up if you pull them?
14:29There you go.
14:31There you go.
14:33There you go.
14:38There you go.
14:55Police Department.
14:56You're in the attic.
14:56Come down now.
14:58You need to show me your hands.
15:05Let's just get on the back up.
15:15I know you're up there.
15:16Come down now.
15:23Mom.
15:33Clear.
15:34I'm up here.
15:35Yep.
15:36I'm good.
15:43Clear.
16:11I've got a citizen report.
16:12He saw a dark-colored Nissan SUV at the far south dead end of Renaton Drive, about an hour
16:20ago.
16:20We've got the suspect vehicles of the 2017 black Nissan Road.
16:24Per a witness, the male suspect was seen in that vehicle.
16:29CBS 4's Alan Junaid live with an update.
16:32Alan, still no sign of the shooter.
16:34No, Jim.
16:35And police have now cleared the scene behind the other mailboxes where this postal worker
16:39was when he was shot this afternoon.
16:41As to motive, there is nothing yet.
16:45You know, he shot him.
16:47He shot him.
16:49He shot him.
16:51He shot him.
16:52There's no reason why.
16:54The person in the civil economy may have a good idea who could be a possible male suspect.
17:08He shot him.
17:13He shot him.
17:13The person in the civil economy may have a good idea.
17:19He shot him.
17:20He shot him.
17:21He shot him.
17:25He shot him.
17:36He shot him.
17:39I don't know.
17:39He shot him.
17:51He shot him.
17:52Her name is Devin, D-E-V-A-N, and then it's Shriner is her last name.
17:58So there's some kind of child custody paperwork that you put on the concert today?
18:02So they have kind of joint custody, but I think she's stopped responding to any of his messages.
18:09She won't respond to his lawyer.
18:11Just like, she's like, really mean messages.
18:15And she's like, she's crazy.
18:17From what I know of her, she's crazy.
18:20But I don't know if she's just crazy.
18:33Your name is Vicki, correct?
18:35Yes.
18:36How can I help you?
18:39I know some of the carriers, and some of the carriers.
18:43We try to stay.
18:47Jessica's most close to them than I do.
18:49Because when it comes to discipline, it's me.
18:53All I know, all I can tell you is that he was having a problem with his baby at home.
18:57She did work for us for a brief moment.
19:00I thought she was a little bit strange and all.
19:03So the job wasn't right for her.
19:06Her, that, and the fact that she was constantly serious.
19:09Do you know anything about anyone else that she would have been dating, possibly?
19:13She got a boyfriend that threatened him.
19:43How long ago was that that you heard that?
19:45I don't know anything about that, but I've got to explain this to her and it's getting people.
19:50Yeah.
20:08Hi Rossa.
20:10Do you have a water and everything?
20:12Yeah.
20:12Okay. Um, I'm gonna shut this door, but just for privacy, okay? Um, I can only imagine what you're going
20:20through. Um, I'm not even gonna pretend to understand, but there's a lot going on here. Um, and your s
20:26- so just let me make sure I have all the names right. Your current boyfriend is Jason.
20:31Right. Okay. And your sister is Devin? Okay. So obviously a lot of different dynamics with this relationship, um, just
20:44with- with Devin being your sister.
20:46She's just extremely angry with the fact that I have what she wants, which is a family. And I don't
20:53know why. I was just like, I feel like Devin's gonna be mad and she's gonna try to do something.
21:00So you think whoever did this, you think it was somebody who targeted Jason? You don't think it was somebody
21:05random?
21:06No. If I'm being honest, I think it came from her. And I think it was somebody, her boyfriend, AJ,
21:12whatever.
21:13Can you tell me more about what maybe made you think that?
21:17In the past, she kind of threatened Jason. She was like, AJ knows where you live and he has his
21:22guns.
21:24And they said he was shot or immediately thought of AJ.
21:30Do you know if Devin has access to guns?
21:35AJ gave her a gun once.
21:37So absolutely in your mind you think that this came from Devin?
21:40Whether she did it herself or she had something else to inform her?
21:43No, no, no doubt about it. Wow.
21:46Absolutely.
21:47Okay.
21:48It's not easy to talk about.
21:52Thank you, Rosa. It was nice to meet you.
22:07Okay.
22:08Yes, answer the phone.
22:09Ask him questions.
22:10We're not here.
22:11She can come pick up the kid.
22:14This is Ren.
22:15Can I help you?
22:25No, Jason has not picked up s**t yet.
22:28Okay, well, I don't know what's happening because people keep calling me and telling
22:33me that something has happened to Jason, and if he hasn't picked up s**t, that makes me
22:38wonder if something did actually happen.
22:40I don't know if I'm going to be able to get there.
22:43Sam, we need to stand by.
22:45Sam is right now, so I, because I wasn't supposed to have him save Jason, so let me see what
22:55I can figure out, and if Jason ends up showing up in the next 30 minutes, can you let me
23:00know
23:00because I need to try to get a hold of him, too.
23:03I don't know what's happening.
23:04Sure, I absolutely will.
23:06Yep.
23:07Okay, great.
23:08Okay, thank you so much.
23:09Okay, thank you.
23:10Good job.
23:11Sam, 180.
23:12Just be advised, the suspect called, said she was in Fort Collins.
23:17She says she is unable to come get him at the moment.
23:21Yeah, 180, I copy.
23:28Hi, I was transferred to you.
23:30I've been getting a lot of calls from people that I know saying that there may have been
23:34an accident with my son's father.
23:37What's your name?
23:38Devin Schreiner.
23:40Okay, yeah, there's been an incident, and so we're trying to figure out what's going
23:45on.
23:46Can you tell me what's happening?
23:47Because everybody just keeps saying there's an accident, and my son is supposed to be with
23:51him right now.
23:52We have the son.
23:53He's fine.
23:54You have my son?
23:55Yep.
23:55Why?
23:56I don't understand why nobody called me.
23:58Well, let's figure out what's going on.
23:59Are you able to come down to the police department?
24:01I mean, you have my son.
24:03Yes, of course I'm coming down there.
24:25We're going to go right over here.
24:29Where is my son?
24:31I'm not sure where he is exactly, but we're going to come this way, and we'll see if
24:34we...
24:34I need my son.
24:37Okay.
24:37Somebody needs to tell me where he is.
24:38Okay.
24:39And we'll find that out right away.
24:45This is just our...
24:46We're going to go right here.
24:49I think they're going to bring him down this way.
24:51Okay, well, I need him to be here now.
24:53Who is he with?
24:55He's going to be with an officer right now, so...
24:57I need to know where my kid is, and I need to know what's happening, because nobody's telling
25:00me anything.
25:01I'm sure they're bringing somebody down.
25:03We're going to tell you what's going to happen.
25:04Do you want to take a seat for a second?
25:06You can stay standing if you'd like, but...
25:10It sounds like somebody's coming here.
25:12Just a second.
25:12Let me make sure somebody's on their way.
25:21Do you have custody of your kiddo?
25:23Me and his father shared half and half custody.
25:27Okay.
25:28Whatever.
25:29And we'll get all that taken care of and figure it out here.
25:33We definitely know your son is safe.
25:35And...
25:35You know he's safe.
25:36I don't know he's safe.
25:37Nobody called me.
25:39Okay.
25:39Okay.
25:40And he's got more answers than I do.
25:43Where is my son?
25:43I haven't seen him, and I don't know what's happened.
25:46He was taken from his school without my knowledge or consent.
25:50And I don't...
25:50I don't know what's happened to his father.
25:52So I need to...
25:53Where is he?
25:55He needs to be here.
25:58All right.
26:00Yep.
26:01Let's go.
26:04I don't really care.
26:06I just...
26:06I want my son.
26:07Where is my son?
26:08I'll tell you everything.
26:09Come up here.
26:11Steve.
26:13Um, you're Devin?
26:14Yes.
26:15Am I pronouncing it right?
26:16Yes.
26:17I'm Steve.
26:17You can call me Steve.
26:18Um, we've got to kind of step back here a little bit.
26:21I've got to tell you, um, some bad news.
26:24Um, your ex-boyfriend, is it?
26:27Ex-husband?
26:28It's just...
26:28I just call him my son's dad.
26:30Son's dad?
26:31We were never married, but...
26:32He died today.
26:38What?
26:39How?
26:39What happened?
26:41Some shot him in the face.
26:42In the face?
26:44Where?
26:46I've got a lot to share with you.
26:48I want to tell you that your son's safe right now.
26:51Um, but I want to read your rights just so you know about it.
26:55Read me my rights?
26:56Yeah, just to get it out of the way.
26:59For what reason?
27:00Well, it's a...
27:01You know, your son's dad died today.
27:04So we want to at least ask you some questions about it.
27:06Do our due diligence.
27:07Maybe you know something about it.
27:09I was at work today.
27:11Okay, perfect.
27:11You've got a good excuse.
27:13Um, shouldn't be a big deal.
27:16But I want to ask you about it.
27:18I want to exonerate you if possible, then move on to the next suspect.
27:22So let me read you your rights.
27:23Devin, you have the right to remain silent.
27:24Anything you say it can will be used against you in a court of law.
27:27And, uh, have any of your rights in mind?
27:29Can I talk to you now?
27:30Yes.
27:31Do you know of anyone that want to get, uh, Jason in trouble?
27:34In trouble?
27:35No.
27:36Or out to get him?
27:37Want to shoot him?
27:38No.
27:38I don't know anybody that would want to hurt him.
27:42I don't think this is a coincidence that your, your, uh, your ex got shot in the face today.
27:47It looked like a hit.
27:49Looks like someone pulled up, ran out, shot him, ran back to the car, sped off.
27:54Fired five times.
27:56They didn't steal anything from him.
27:58There wasn't a road rage case.
28:01Um, someone shot him because they were really upset with him.
28:03They shot him with cold blood.
28:05Shot him five times and got a plate to death there.
28:07That's someone who knows this guy.
28:09And you know him very well.
28:12Are you involved in it?
28:13Because someone is there doing this.
28:15It's not a random shooting.
28:18I understand why I would be a suspect because of who I am related to him.
28:24But I was at work on my route.
28:27I believe you have some knowledge of this.
28:30If your boyfriend or your friend or some, some guy you hired maybe to beat him up,
28:35things went too far, this is the time to come forward and complain and let me know.
28:40Did you have A.J. do something?
28:41Do you think A.J. was involved in something like this?
28:44Do you think?
28:44No.
28:44I think you're definitely involved in this, but maybe, maybe you're down here where you're
28:49just trying to prevent something.
28:51Whoever's there, maybe they went too far and you didn't know it.
28:55So that's why I'm trying to give you some, some type of plausible deniability.
28:59Because something happened and you're involved somehow to some degree.
29:04But if there's someone else involved in this, we're going to find out.
29:26How are you?
29:28Are you A.J.?
29:29Yeah.
29:30A.J., my name is Inspector Chris Lucas.
29:31I'm a federal agent.
29:32Okay.
29:33United States Postal Inspection Services.
29:35Okay.
29:35We just want to talk to you a little bit about a lady by the name of Devin Schreiner.
29:39Do you know her?
29:40Yeah.
29:40How do you know her?
29:41She's a friend.
29:42So, I mean, it's pretty important why we're here.
29:45Yeah.
29:45And, uh...
29:46I saw the news reports.
29:48Were you home today or were you working or...?
29:50I was home.
29:51Okay.
29:51Did she stop by here?
29:53Uh, she delivers mail out here.
29:55What time was she here?
29:5611 something to probably about 12, 15.
30:00You know, the timeline's important to us.
30:02Right.
30:02So, she was here around 11, and she stayed till 12, 15?
30:07Yeah.
30:08And I left and went to Hoogers and ate with a friend.
30:11Okay.
30:11And she went back to Devin Wall.
30:13And so, when you left here, was she still here?
30:16I left and she was in her truck.
30:17And so, you left about 12, 15-ish.
30:20When you left, she was still sitting in her truck.
30:22Right.
30:23And did you think that she could be violent at all?
30:25Did you ever think that, or...?
30:27Do I think she's capable of killing somebody?
30:29I don't.
30:29So, I don't have more questions.
30:32A couple things that we'll follow up on.
30:34I'd just be 100% honest.
30:35It's a murder investigation.
30:37Yeah.
30:37Do you have any questions for me right now?
30:39No, I mean, I asked for those.
30:41All right.
30:46Watch 10.30.
30:47The interview ended for now.
30:49This is Chris Lucas on 10.13, 2021.
31:02All right, all right.
31:04We're going to get this going here, Devin.
31:06We're going to introduce you to, uh...
31:08What I just arrived, I'm a U.S. Postal Inspector.
31:12My name's Ken.
31:13So, I know you work for the post office
31:15and have worked for the post office.
31:17Mm-hmm.
31:18So, because this is kind of postal-related
31:20and you're working today,
31:21I wanted to chitchat with you about
31:22kind of what happened
31:24and some of your activities today, okay?
31:26Mm-hmm.
31:32Well, let's start off with...
31:34Are you comfortable where you're sitting?
31:36Or would you rather sit?
31:37I don't go to here.
31:38Okay.
31:39I just really want my kid
31:40and that's not happening, so...
31:42Yeah.
31:43Well, first off,
31:45I'm sorry about what's happened today.
31:47Today's been a stressful day
31:50for you, for your child.
31:52So, I understand that...
31:54Mm-hmm.
31:54I don't think you do.
31:56Well, I can empathize with the fact
31:58that it's probably one of the worst days
32:00in your life.
32:01So, I...
32:02Well, on top of what happened,
32:04my child was picked up from...
32:05by the police from school
32:07and I was not contacted.
32:09Okay.
32:09I understand.
32:10I'm a father.
32:11I've got kids myself.
32:13That would upset me, too.
32:14I'm sure he's being taken care of right now.
32:17But let me start off with today.
32:18When did you get to work?
32:20I got to work about...
32:21I don't know,
32:22quarter to eight,
32:23eight o'clock.
32:24Okay.
32:24And I started delivering about 10.30.
32:27What time did you get off work?
32:31Almost five.
32:31So, you got back in your Nissan.
32:34Was it...
32:35It was at the post office?
32:37And then...
32:38You drove...
32:40The Nissan from work to home?
32:43Yes.
32:43Is that what you're saying?
32:44Yes.
32:45Okay.
32:45Does anybody else drive that vehicle
32:47or is that just your car?
32:49No, it's mine.
32:50Are you the only one
32:50that has keys to the car?
32:53Uh, yeah.
32:54There's no spare keys for the car
32:56or anything like that?
32:57I mean, I have a spare set
32:59somewhere in my house, but...
33:01But you said you live by yourself?
33:03Yeah.
33:03AJ doesn't come over
33:04and live with you at all?
33:06Okay.
33:09Um, is there a way
33:11that I can be escorted
33:13to the bathroom?
33:14Yeah.
33:15Yeah, we'll go to the bathroom.
33:16Can I show you this first
33:17if you don't mind?
33:19It's good.
33:20You mind if I sit here?
33:21I don't want to invade your space.
33:23I'll sit right here for you.
33:28Oh.
33:30So...
33:32So, what happened
33:32in this general area,
33:34Renaissance Drive
33:35and Heather Hill Circle.
33:37Okay.
33:38One of the things
33:39that we went out
33:40and did today,
33:41or the police department did,
33:42um,
33:44and they had a lot of help,
33:45is
33:46they pulled surveillance
33:48video
33:50from a lot of different
33:51locations in the area.
33:52Yes.
33:53They actually captured
33:55what happened
33:56on one of the
33:57surveillance videos.
33:58That's what the, uh,
34:00detective said.
34:01Okay.
34:01They also captured
34:04the vehicle
34:06that was involved
34:07on the surveillance footage.
34:09And they captured
34:11the license plate.
34:12Okay.
34:13And it was your vehicle.
34:26So, you know what
34:27almost every house
34:28has these days?
34:30They have cameras.
34:32So, we have your car
34:33over there.
34:35You already told me
34:36you're the only person
34:37that drives that vehicle.
34:39I also told you I was at work
34:40and nobody seems to believe
34:41that either.
34:42Now, we understand
34:43that you were at work
34:43for part of the time.
34:44I believe that.
34:45I didn't say that either.
34:47Say what?
34:48I didn't say part of the time.
34:50I said I was at work
34:50all of the time.
34:51Okay.
34:51Your vehicle was over there
34:53where this happened
34:54at the time that it happened.
34:56We have witnesses
34:57and we have surveillance footage.
34:59I don't have an answer for that.
35:01Okay.
35:01You don't have an answer.
35:02You have, like,
35:02zero answer.
35:04How do you think
35:05something like that
35:06could happen?
35:06I'm going to ask
35:07to speak to a lawyer
35:09if we're going to continue
35:10with this questioning.
35:11I don't have an answer for that.
35:17So, here's the situation.
35:19I need you to go ahead
35:19and turn around for me.
35:21Turn around.
35:22Put your hands behind your back.
35:24Release your fingers.
35:26Do not move, okay?
35:36All right.
35:36So, you are under arrest, okay?
35:38So, we're going to
35:38take you downstairs.
35:39We are, uh,
35:40going to get your clothing
35:41and we'll let you
35:42put a bathroom down there, okay?
35:44Right this way.
36:25We just want to kind of
36:26clean up some of the stuff
36:27with Devin and her timeline.
36:28One of the things she told me
36:29is that she drives, uh,
36:32like a Nissan Rogue or Milano.
36:34Yeah.
36:35Is that correct?
36:36Okay.
36:37So, this is her car
36:38on the license plate reader
36:40back in May.
36:41That's her car.
36:42That's her car.
36:45That's her car.
36:47This is down
36:48at the scene
36:50of the neighborhood
36:51of the shooting.
36:53You'll see the time,
36:541206.
36:56That's her car.
36:57So, originally,
36:58you told us
36:59that she was up there
37:00at your house with you
37:00until 12.15
37:01when you left
37:02to go to Hooters.
37:03Can you explain that?
37:05Yeah.
37:07She was not with me.
37:13Um...
37:13Well, she wasn't.
37:14No.
37:14You have any idea
37:15what that picture is right there?
37:19Looks like she missed.
37:22So, those were phone signals
37:23coming from your phone
37:25down in the Longmont area
37:26in the same neighborhood
37:27in the same neighborhood
37:28as the shooting.
37:29So, we know that you
37:30were in Longmont that morning.
37:31You're a smart guy.
37:32I think you know
37:33where we're going with this.
37:36This morning,
37:37she told me
37:37that she was going to do it.
37:38I tried to talk her out of it.
37:40And she told me
37:41that there was
37:42no time around.
37:43So, I went out there.
37:44I knew his route number.
37:46I found him.
37:47And I told him
37:48that he should watch out for her.
37:50And he said,
37:51I'm not scared of that bitch.
37:53How long do you think
37:54you were following him for?
37:56Most of the morning
37:57I was going to start this route.
37:59Okay.
38:00Because she told me
38:01first thing in the morning
38:02when I dropped her off at work
38:04that that was going to be the day.
38:06And I was like,
38:07do what?
38:08She was like,
38:09I'm going to get rid of Jason today.
38:11So, I don't think
38:12that's going to be it.
38:13She was like,
38:14no, I'm done with this.
38:16She said that he
38:17did something with
38:19their parenting agreement
38:21that he was getting
38:21full custody
38:22and that Rosa
38:23was going to step in
38:24and be the mom
38:24and that their,
38:25that side of the family
38:26was going to be able
38:28to provide better for her.
38:30She was going to be able to.
38:32So, you know
38:33that she wants
38:34to kill this guy.
38:35So much so
38:36to the extent
38:37that you go down
38:38to where his mail route is
38:39to keep an eye on him
38:40just in case she shows up
38:42so that you can confront her.
38:43Correct.
38:44But you didn't feel
38:44like it was serious enough
38:45to notify the police,
38:47say, hey,
38:48she's going to kill this guy.
38:49Why didn't you tell anyone?
38:50I thought it's 2020,
38:52but I thought
38:53I could talk her down.
38:54You didn't tell anyone.
38:55You did think
38:56she was going to do it.
38:57You went down there
38:58to warn him.
38:59You're saying
38:59that you believed it so much.
39:01You went all the way
39:02down to Longmont
39:03to follow a mail truck
39:05around for two
39:06or three hours.
39:07That's how much
39:07you believed it.
39:09And you didn't
39:10tell anyone else.
39:11That's what I'm
39:12supposed to believe?
39:13What I thought she...
39:14Why did you go down there
39:15to follow him around
39:16if you didn't think
39:17that's what she was going to do?
39:19Because I wanted to
39:20stop her if she came out there.
39:21So you did think
39:21she was on the way
39:22to go down there as well?
39:23I didn't discuss with her
39:24about going and killing someone.
39:26So you just helped her
39:27cover it up afterwards
39:27by not telling anybody
39:28and by lying about it.
39:31All right,
39:31you're under arrest.
39:32Go ahead and stand up.
39:33Place your hands
39:33behind your back.
39:34It's impossible.
39:35Do that out there
39:37in the parking lot.
39:38No, no.
39:39Stand up for me.
39:41I'm going to die now.
39:51Yes.
39:52I don't really think
39:53there's something
39:53where to say
39:54but there's some five
39:54things.
39:56This is murderous.
39:57All right.
39:58Let's get on.
40:00CBS4's Kelly Werthmann
40:01joining us
40:02ahead of a vigil
40:03for Schaefer tonight.
40:04Kelly, you have new information
40:06on the second person
40:07now arrested.
40:08Jim, Longmore Police
40:10have arrested a man
40:10they say was complicit
40:12in the murder
40:13that happened here
40:14just last week.
40:1534-year-old Andrew Ritchie
40:17was taken into custody
40:18last night
40:19on charges for complicity
40:20to commit first-degree murder.
40:40Hi.
40:41Hi, dear.
40:42Are you okay?
40:43What's wrong?
40:46There's more news today.
40:49What happened?
40:55AJ
40:57was telling them
40:58everything
41:02as well as
41:03they found a picture
41:04of you
41:05in the outfit.
41:10Hmm.
41:17I'm sorry.
41:18You had to hear all that
41:19on the news?
41:21There's a lot
41:21stacked against you.
41:28I'm sure there is.
41:36I don't know
41:37how that's going to happen.
41:40We'll let the lawyers
41:41worry about that.
41:45Guilty.
41:45That's the verdict
41:46for a woman on trial
41:47for killing a postal worker
41:48in Longmont.
41:49Jason Schaefer
41:50was shot and killed
41:51while on the job.
41:52Police later arrested
41:53his ex-girlfriend,
41:54Devin Schreiner.
41:55Well, today,
41:55a jury found her
41:56guilty of first-degree murder.
41:58She was immediately
41:59sentenced to life
41:59in prison
42:00without the possibility
42:01of parole.
42:13Today, the U.S. Postal Service
42:15of Colorado
42:15had a procession
42:17in Schaefer's honor.
42:1847 postal trucks
42:20driving the same
42:21delivery route
42:22he was driving.
42:23Well, it was stirring
42:24how people came together
42:25tonight in this
42:26upscale neighborhood.
42:27The stories they shared
42:28of and an adoration
42:30for Jason Schaefer
42:32by the people
42:33who lived around here
42:34and the love
42:35of his co-workers
42:36who said he had
42:37lifted them up.
42:39Evening, everyone.
42:40As a cool October evening
42:41grew dark and chilly,
42:42well over 100 people
42:43protected by the warmth
42:44of their candles
42:45paid tribute
42:46to Jason Schaefer.
42:47He'll always be my son.
42:48I always called him kiddo.
42:50As they raise candles
42:51this night,
42:52the loss that breaks
42:52many hearts
42:53is only becoming clearer.
42:55I just don't know
42:56what to say.
42:56I am going to miss him
42:57so much.
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