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00:00And
00:24We recorded it a couple years ago, but this year marks the 40th anniversary of the song in the album
00:28go ahead sit down
00:29Oh, go ahead get comfortable get comfortable. You're good. So here's me and my band y'all with Bruce Hornsby's
00:34The Way It Is
00:45Sitting in line, marking time, waiting for the welfare done
00:50Cause they can't buy a job
00:53A man in a silk suit hurries by as he catches the poor old lady's eyes
00:58Just for funny sex, get a job
01:05That's just the way it is
01:09Some things have never changed
01:13That's just the way it is
01:16I
01:18Don't you believe
01:22No
01:28Well, they passed a law in 64 to give those who ain't got a little more
01:33But it only goes so far
01:36Cause a law don't change another's mind
01:39When all it sees at the hiring time
01:42Is the line on the color bar
01:48Cause that's just the way it is
01:52Some things are never gonna change
01:56Oh, that's just the way it is
02:00Ah, that's just the way it is
02:02That's just the way it is
02:05Give it up for Jason Young!
02:33One more time, give it up for my band, y'all.
02:40Y'all got to check out Bruce Hornstein's new album, Indigo Park, and see him and his
02:44band, The Noisemakers, on tour now through the fall.
02:47Let's say hello to our first guest, though.
02:49Truly, y'all, she is one of the greatest actors out there.
02:51She is an Oscar, Emmy, and Golden Globe winner, as well as a National Medal of Arts recipient.
02:56She's defied physics as a flying nun, organized a strike as Norma Rae, and taught, see what
03:01we're doing here, and taught Forrest Gump that life is like a box of chocolates.
03:05Her latest movie is called Remarkably Bright Creatures.
03:07It's so good.
03:10It's so good.
03:11You have to check it out.
03:12It's on Netflix starting tomorrow.
03:13Please welcome back to the show, Sally Field.
03:47It's nice to see you again.
03:49It's nice to see you again.
03:50You look great.
03:51Oh, thank you so much.
03:52A team of people did this.
03:53It's a lie.
03:54Yeah.
03:55No, and also, happy Mother's Day this weekend.
03:57It's Mother's Day.
03:58It is?
03:58Yeah.
03:59Are you going to do any plans?
04:00Oh, we don't really do much.
04:02No.
04:02Yeah.
04:03No, I have no plans, and trust me, my children have no plans.
04:06Have no.
04:07Yeah.
04:08Yeah, yeah.
04:09Tweet, tweet.
04:10No, my kids freaked out on me, like, yesterday in the car.
04:12They were like, we just found out on his mother's day.
04:13I was like, just, like, write me something nice.
04:15Like, I don't need anything.
04:16I was like, I don't know why you're freaking out right now.
04:18I wish my kids would write me something nice.
04:21They're 10 and 12, so they're, like, a little younger right now and still, like, you know,
04:26are sweet.
04:28Maybe my grandkids will hear this and go, oh, gosh, Grammy.
04:32I doubt it.
04:33I sincerely doubt it.
04:34Oh, that's cute, though.
04:36Congrats on the new movie.
04:37It is so good.
04:38So it's remarkably bright creatures.
04:40It's so good.
04:41It's so special.
04:42I think my favorite part about it is that I hadn't read the book.
04:46I didn't know about the book.
04:48And I was obviously watching it because I knew you were coming.
04:50And it's one of those things where I feel like we don't have enough fresh ideas.
04:55You know, we're remaking stuff and we're doing stuff like that all the time.
04:57And it's so good.
04:59It's beautiful.
04:59It's sweet.
05:00It's tragic.
05:01It's kind of got you going on this emotional roller coaster.
05:03Yeah.
05:04It is, you know, it's this, you know, ordinary story of an old woman, a young man, and an octopus.
05:10You know, that comes around all the time.
05:13Yeah.
05:14And you had to act with, like, obviously there was no octopus.
05:16So it was like...
05:17Well, you don't know.
05:18Yeah, well...
05:20Who said?
05:21No.
05:22How do you know?
05:22I'm not telling.
05:23It's magic.
05:25Okay.
05:25We're going to make...
05:26Okay.
05:26How was it acting with that real octopus?
05:29Well, I've acted before with people that aren't there.
05:32Believe me.
05:36I have sang with people right there.
05:41I have sang with people.
05:42I've been doing a duet with a dude one time.
05:44I was like, can you pretend to be interested in me right now?
05:47I was like, is this much work?
05:49No, I know.
05:49Yeah.
05:50But I had...
05:50I was given the book in galley, so way early on before it was even published.
05:55Yeah.
05:56And I read, like, two chapters and said, yes, I want to do this.
06:00So for a long...
06:02Years and years it took to find the right filmmaker to get the adaptation right.
06:07And I was a pain in everybody's butt because I knew that the book was this delicate piece
06:13of lace and there's a bit of mystery in it.
06:16And I would give them, like, 35-page documents of, wait a minute, this has been left out.
06:21Look at that from the book.
06:22Look on page 15.
06:23There's a whole thing here.
06:24And so we were constantly trying to weave things into it.
06:28So by the time I was in fabulous, gorgeous, remarkable Vancouver, which, if you haven't
06:36been there, go there.
06:38It's Canada.
06:39Yeah.
06:39Our neighbors.
06:40Yeah.
06:41But British Columbia specifically is so gorgeous.
06:45Specifically.
06:46By the time I got there, I knew him, whether he was there or not, and I won't say, but
06:52I
06:53knew him so well.
06:54I knew what he felt like.
06:56I knew the sound of him.
06:57I knew the look of him.
06:59Marcellus.
06:59Yeah.
07:00Marcellus.
07:01And the voice is done by brilliant Alfred Molina.
07:05So good.
07:08And it's so interesting how it's almost the octopus narrates it.
07:13Yes.
07:13Practically.
07:14Yeah.
07:14That's from the get-go in the book.
07:16And that's one of the reasons I went, oh, hello.
07:19Yeah.
07:20Because it's all narrated by Marcellus, the octopus, what he sees from his tank.
07:25The vantage point.
07:26And his, how critical he is of this species.
07:31But also funny.
07:32Very funny.
07:33Very funny.
07:33Very witty.
07:34Yeah.
07:34Yeah.
07:34All right.
07:35So you got to work with your son, Peter, on it, right?
07:36Is he a producer?
07:37He was the producer of it.
07:38Yeah.
07:39That's fun.
07:39It's out of his new production company with Brian Unglis, Night Owl.
07:45And so they brought it to me early on.
07:47And I said, yes.
07:48So it is the first.
07:49Now, subsequently, they have like four others.
07:52And he's up.
07:53He's in New Jersey right now shooting a limited series.
07:57Peter is.
07:57That he wrote in his running, show running.
08:00And he's just amazing.
08:02Yeah.
08:03All right.
08:03Let's take a short break, everybody.
08:04We have someone in the audience to help us out.
08:06Hi, Kelly and Sally.
08:07I'm Nalani.
08:08I'm a marine biologist and high school teacher here in New York.
08:11Yeah.
08:12Sure.
08:12The island of Manhattan isn't what most people envision when they think of oceanic wonder.
08:17But I make it work.
08:18And films like Remarkably Bright Creatures reinforce how we can celebrate every organism in the deep blue sea.
08:24Stay here.
08:25There's more with Kelly and Sally after this.
08:33Of all the humans, I suppose I mind the cleaning lady the least.
08:40Feeling a bit antisocial tonight?
08:43I know the feeling.
08:45She can't hide from me.
08:48I hope you got some fresh scallops today.
08:51I told Tara you must be sick of that frozen halibut.
08:55Oh, you have no idea.
08:59We are back with Sally Field.
09:01That was a look at her new film, Remarkably Bright Creatures.
09:04You can see it tomorrow on Netflix.
09:06So was it nice?
09:07You had a female director and a female cinematographer, right?
09:11Was that nice?
09:12It's like a different perspective.
09:13You know what?
09:13You get to work in it and it is all about the quality of who they are.
09:17So male, female, doesn't matter.
09:22And since I've been doing this job, since I've been in the business since 1964, when there were no men
09:30on the set.
09:31None.
09:31I mean, no women on the set.
09:33Only men.
09:33I was like, what sets were you on?
09:35Yeah, exactly.
09:36Trust me, I was on those sets, too.
09:38Yeah.
09:40There were zero women in the crew.
09:42They just didn't exist.
09:44And then slowly they started to come on more and more and more.
09:47But it's really been over the last, oh, I guess, ten years that you see women really in the crew,
09:54on all aspects of the crew.
09:56So I have worked with some women directors.
10:00But this DP, Ashley, is arguably the best I've ever worked with, or one of the best.
10:06Right up with the great center photographers I've had the great privilege to work with.
10:11So she's dazzlingly good.
10:13Yeah.
10:14Oh, what a great word, dazzling.
10:15I want somebody to use that adjective with my name.
10:18One of the themes is finding joy through tragedy.
10:21How do you find joy?
10:22I think that's different for everyone, when something happens that you're like, oof, this is too much, like in life.
10:29I don't know.
10:30That's an interesting question.
10:31How do I find joy?
10:34You know, this is a very weird thing.
10:37Joy is at night when I can sit and have my glass of Chardonnay.
10:43Yeah.
10:43And it's still.
10:44It's quiet.
10:45And it's quiet.
10:45And I'm with my little dog.
10:48Yeah.
10:48That's a new part of my life.
10:51Yeah.
10:51My little dog.
10:52And I can cross off my list that I got it done.
10:56I love crossing a list off.
10:58And I can look to tomorrow.
10:59Tomorrow is joy.
11:01Yes.
11:02I'm telling you what, crossing a list off is the best, excuse my French foreplay.
11:07I'm telling you what, I love seeing it just go away.
11:14And I conquered this today, conquered, because we've got a lot of s*** on the list, you know what I'm
11:18saying?
11:18I know, I know.
11:19That feels good.
11:21Pardon your foreplay on that one.
11:22Yeah, pardon my foreplay.
11:23But congratulations if you haven't.
11:27But your character is a janitor.
11:30So are you a clean person?
11:32Are you tidy?
11:34Uh-oh.
11:37I say I am a tidy, look, the, I mean, yes, it's like a little, like, it needs to be
11:43like, I have something seriously wrong with me, because everything, I'm surprised I'm not in here going, who's got the
11:48thing I need to get, lift up your feet.
11:50So question.
11:51No question.
11:52Can you tell, so you can tell in my life, if my room is, if my closet specifically is a
11:56mess, well, she's not doing well.
11:58She's not doing well, yeah.
11:59But if you walk into my closet is great, she's fine.
12:02Oh, man.
12:03You know?
12:03Yeah.
12:03It's my closet.
12:04That's the indication.
12:05Yeah, I get that.
12:05Yeah.
12:06I totally get that.
12:07But I like being clean, and there's a spot for everything.
12:09Just put it up, children.
12:10You know, there's so much chaos going inside me.
12:12Yeah.
12:13And the only way I had control was to make everything neat.
12:16Yeah.
12:17If I could make everything neat and clean, fine.
12:20I'm in control.
12:21Yeah, and if there isn't a place for it, then you don't need it.
12:23Like, just put it away, and if there isn't a place for it, you don't need it.
12:25Oh, I need it.
12:26I need it.
12:27Are you a hoarder?
12:28Oh, yeah.
12:29Oh, we're opposite.
12:30Yeah, but I hoard it neatly.
12:33Oh, my God.
12:34You're my mom.
12:36My mom would be like, I know where everything is.
12:40Okay, wait, in the film, you become a surrogate mom for a drifter, played by Louis Pullman.
12:46So you worked with his dad, Bill, right, in London?
12:49Yeah.
12:49Are you on a play?
12:50Yes, we did a play in 2019 in the UK at the Old Vic.
12:55Yeah.
12:56Oh, God, you're both so great.
12:59So you're, and you're also, how was that?
13:01How's that?
13:01Do you find, like, the English audience any different when you're playing?
13:04I find audiences different where I go and sing.
13:06Every audience is different.
13:08I mean, they're all different.
13:09That's part of the fun and the challenge of doing stage is they're all different.
13:14And certainly the UK was different, but I found them incredibly welcoming.
13:19I was told that they were a bit standoffish.
13:21Well, is that standoffish?
13:23No, Broadway is standoffish.
13:25Yeah.
13:26Yeah, no, I didn't find that either.
13:28They're fun.
13:28No.
13:29They're, like, here for a party.
13:30Fun, yeah.
13:30Yeah, really.
13:31I agree.
13:31You're turning 80 this year, right?
13:33I am?
13:34Yes.
13:35Oh, my God.
13:35Wait, what?
13:36Oh, wait.
13:38It's incredible.
13:39Oh, my God.
13:39No, it's totally.
13:40No, it's incredible.
13:42I love aging.
13:44I know everybody is down on this industry for years, but it is a blessing.
13:47Not everybody gets to do each number.
13:50You know what I'm saying?
13:50So it's like, it's such a...
13:51I've had some young friends, like, pass away, and it's like, every year is such a blessing
13:55and everything you get to, you know, next year, it's like, oh, what do I want to do with this
13:58time?
13:59Absolutely.
13:59You don't know how much time you have.
14:00I completely agree.
14:00Like, that's a blessing.
14:0180 years old.
14:02What are you excited about?
14:03I completely agree.
14:04Different chapter?
14:05Being here?
14:06Oh, my God.
14:06I don't...
14:07You know, it is...
14:09I am grateful that my legs and my feet and my hands and my arms have done all the things
14:16I asked them to do for 80 years, almost 80 years.
14:19Yeah.
14:19And I work to walk away from the place in this society that tells me that I should be ashamed
14:26because I begin to look like Droopy Dog or Deputy Dog or whoever that guy is with his face
14:32down here.
14:32I always tell people, they're like, are you going to get work done?
14:35I'm like, no, I'm going to just Shar-Pay it up.
14:36Yeah.
14:37Just going to show you all what it's supposed to look like.
14:39You know what I'm saying?
14:40Yeah.
14:40Because, you know, old women are wonderful.
14:44They have done a lot.
14:46And sexy and powerful and bold.
14:48People here, old women have done a lot.
14:50Yeah.
14:51I love it.
14:52And it's...
14:53I always look at life like different chapters as well.
14:57Like, that's why everybody keeps going, oh, are you sad?
14:59This isn't me.
14:59I am sad, but at the same time, like, what is the next chapter?
15:02You know?
15:02And I think that's exciting that you have that.
15:04Well, what are you, 12?
15:05I'm 44.
15:0744?
15:07I'm 44.
15:08My God, that was the prime of my life.
15:10I mean, I'm just saying I'm not...
15:11No, it is.
15:1240s are great.
15:1340s are great.
15:1440s are great.
15:1550s are even better.
15:16Okay.
15:18Okay.
15:19Okay.
15:19We have to take another break, y'all.
15:21Remarkably Bright Creatures premieres tomorrow on Netflix.
15:24We're going to get the stories behind some of Sally's greatest roles next.
15:27Stay right here.
15:39Welcome back, y'all.
15:41Sally Field is hanging out.
15:44You can see her latest movie, Remarkably Bright Creatures, starting tomorrow on Netflix.
15:50Whenever we have someone with such an outstanding career like Sally's had, we like to look back
15:55through the stories behind their most memorable roles.
15:57In fact, we actually just did this yesterday with Goldie Hawn, because apparently all we're
16:01having is excellence on this show lately.
16:03So we couldn't resist doing it again.
16:06This is Scenes and Stories.
16:10Scenes and Stories.
16:15Okay, so we're going to show a still from a film Sally was in, and then she's going to
16:20tell us something about it, about the movie.
16:22So here's the first one.
16:23Sybil, for which Sally won her first Emmy.
16:29Did you enjoy this?
16:31It's kind of a very cool, interesting role to play.
16:34Did I enjoy it?
16:35Well, I mean, a character that's so, there was multiple, you know.
16:38Yes, but to do the work like that, or any of the complicated work I've had the opportunity
16:43to do, it isn't like you're enjoying it at the time.
16:47No, it costs you.
16:49It's painful.
16:49It's really painful, and it costs you, and you leave a chunk of your soul there.
16:55But.
16:55Damn.
16:56I know.
16:57Yeah.
16:57But you gain so much more, because being in her shoes, understanding her, I was forever
17:05changed, because I had to do that.
17:08And so, for whatever you leave behind, having done the work, you can say to yourself, I did
17:14it.
17:14I did it.
17:15That's all you say at the end.
17:17I did it.
17:17I did it.
17:18Yeah, because sometimes we get in our way, and we think we can't.
17:21Yeah.
17:22Next up is Steel Magnolias.
17:25Yeah.
17:28This is an insane cast.
17:31Yeah.
17:31Like, I know so, I could probably recite this movie.
17:36Like, I've seen this movie so many times.
17:38What do you think of when you think of Steel Magnolias?
17:41I think of my, I think of Julia, and Dolly, and Olympia, and Daryl, and Shirley.
17:48I think that's what I think of.
17:50Yeah.
17:50I think of the times that weren't on the set, when we would all go shopping together,
17:55if you would believe it.
17:56Yeah, the hang.
17:56Yeah, we would go to the market together.
17:59If you can imagine all of us, after work or on a weekend, you know, we'd be going to
18:04the market together.
18:05And then we'd play games at somebody, one of our houses at night.
18:10And I also know that my now 36-year-old son was like six months old there.
18:18Yeah.
18:18And I had him always there.
18:21And he loved Dolly's fingernails.
18:23Dolly would go like this.
18:24She is a shiny human.
18:26Yeah.
18:27She is a shiny, dazzling human.
18:29There's the word dazzling one more time.
18:31I love her.
18:31We're going to use that word toward you.
18:33A shiny, I'm shiny?
18:35Dazzling human.
18:36Dazzling.
18:36Yes, you is dazzling.
18:38I like dazzling.
18:39She did too good for me.
18:42Next up is Mrs. Doubt.
18:44Wait, I got to go back.
18:45I just imagined y'all all in a grocery store.
18:47Yeah, we're all in a grocery store.
18:48And like, can you imagine the person checking them out?
18:52Like, can I?
18:52Oh my God.
18:53Like, it's like all of you there.
18:55Anyway, okay, I'm past it.
18:56Okay, next is Mrs. Doubtfire.
19:00I love you.
19:04What was it like doing a scene with Robin Williams?
19:07Insane.
19:08Yeah.
19:09Completely insane.
19:10I don't act.
19:11And the one time in my whole life I did it was with,
19:13I said yes because it was him.
19:14Yeah.
19:15And he made me feel so comfortable.
19:17Yeah.
19:18He was so nice.
19:19He is.
19:19He is.
19:19He's very funny, but really good.
19:21He was a wonderful, wonderful soul.
19:24Yeah.
19:25Um, the movie was completely exhausting
19:28because, um, Robin never quit.
19:32Um, he, he, um, we would do a take,
19:35take one, two, and three.
19:36We got it.
19:37It's all done.
19:38Perfect.
19:39Done.
19:39Except Robin would go, wait a minute.
19:41Let's, let's try.
19:41How about if I come through the kitchen window this time?
19:44Robin, I don't.
19:45Okay, let's try that.
19:46Okay, next time I'm going to pop out of the refrigerator.
19:49You didn't know I was in there.
19:50Robin, that doesn't make any,
19:51so he just went on and on and on and on.
19:54Yeah, it's almost like a kid.
19:56Like a kid, child's heart.
19:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:57All right, the last movie is Forrest Gump.
20:00Oh!
20:03This is so good.
20:06You've been in so many great movies.
20:09Oh, my God.
20:10Okay, what about this one?
20:11What do you think of?
20:12Well, when I see that picture,
20:13I realize that my hair is now what it was then.
20:18You're perfect.
20:21Wait a minute.
20:23That wasn't y'all's first movie, though.
20:25Y'all had worked together before.
20:26Oh, no, we had worked together before.
20:27We did a movie called Punchline.
20:29Yeah.
20:29Yeah, which is very different.
20:31Very different.
20:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:32Very, very different.
20:33Yeah, I love, I love.
20:34It's just, you've been a part of so many classics
20:37that people go to.
20:38We didn't even mention, look, I don't care.
20:39I mean, Soap Dish is one of my favorite things
20:41I've ever seen in my life.
20:42I love Soap Dish so much.
20:45I told you this when you were here last.
20:47I was like, it's literally, my mother and I do not agree
20:50on, like, a lot of things, like, art-wise.
20:51Like, it's one movie that we were like, this,
20:53we will pee our pants we laugh so hard.
20:55That movie is so funny.
20:57But I didn't use that one, but I love that one.
20:59All right, and that was Scenes and Stories.
21:01We are joined by Sally's remarkably bright Creatures
21:04co-star Lewis Pullman next.
21:06Stay right here.
21:17Welcome back, y'all.
21:18We've got Sally Field with us.
21:20And our next guest will start in series like
21:23Lessons in Chemistry, films like Top Gun, Maverick,
21:26as well as appearing in the Marvel Universe
21:28in Thunderbolt.
21:29But right now, yeah.
21:31But right now, he stars alongside Sally,
21:34their new movie Remarkably Bright Creatures
21:36premieres tomorrow on Netflix.
21:38Are the two of you dating?
21:40No, no.
21:41We're just, we're texting.
21:42I mean, barely.
21:43I'm just playing it cool.
21:46Whatever that means.
21:47How do you want me to respond?
21:49I don't want you to respond.
21:50I'm going to text her tomorrow.
21:51Put the phone down.
21:53What?
21:53If you have any hope of ever dating someone like Avery,
21:57you have to take her seriously.
21:58I do take her seriously.
22:00It's called flirting.
22:01I'm flirting.
22:02What is flirting?
22:02It's flirting as nothing.
22:03It's words and eyes and everything that matters
22:07takes time and effort.
22:10Thank you, you're the most famous.
22:29I think I'll switch it.
22:30I love it.
22:31I love it.
22:32I am.
22:33You have Marcellus.
22:35I wore this for two reasons, actually.
22:37Wait, why did you, what, okay, what are the two?
22:39Well, one is that, you know, you love Canada.
22:43You're Canadian tuxedo.
22:44This is a Canadian tux.
22:45Yes.
22:46And two, you spent so much time imagining Marcellus while I'm in the room.
22:49Yes.
22:49And now I just kind of, I figured that I would give you a little rest on that.
22:52You'll give me my own Marcellus.
22:53Yes.
22:54Have you ever actually held one?
22:57Have you had?
22:58No, you didn't ever touch an actual octopus doing the thing you didn't.
23:02I'm not telling.
23:03We're not telling anyone this stuff.
23:05Okay, totally.
23:05I just, my son and I did once and it was so cool.
23:07It felt so cool.
23:08I should have done that for research.
23:10But I also wanted to like maintain a little bit of my skittishness around it.
23:14Yeah.
23:15Oh man, well done.
23:16Congrats.
23:16It's such a great movie.
23:18I mean, not on being a skit.
23:19I just mean, well done on the movie.
23:22But you guys had met before this, right?
23:24We hadn't, no.
23:25No.
23:25No?
23:26I had seen you in the flesh up on stage.
23:28Well, you never came back though.
23:30Oh, that's what it was.
23:31You never said hi.
23:32Yeah.
23:32You know, the old Vic is what it is.
23:34And there isn't really any way to come back.
23:36You have to go upstairs to the pub up there.
23:38And I never went to the pub.
23:39And it was such an amazing experience watching them up there.
23:43And it was like, you know, watching your father up on stage,
23:48kind of like when you're sharing the breath of somebody
23:50and they're kind of reincarnating another spirit.
23:53It's like, I almost didn't want to puncture that up.
23:55And it's a hugely emotional play.
23:57Yeah, yeah.
23:58I'm going to get to music with you here in a minute
24:00because I had no idea.
24:02I had no idea I've been listening to you for years.
24:06I had no idea.
24:06Anyway, but describe who you play.
24:09I play Cameron in Remarkably Bright Creatures.
24:14And Cameron just sort of like shows up into this town
24:17in a van that breaks down.
24:19And he's on the lookout for something.
24:21He's looking for somebody.
24:23He's got a real strong purpose,
24:25but he's having trouble kind of getting things right.
24:28He's kind of lost.
24:29A little lost.
24:29My favorite thing is like the casual traumatic knowledge bombs
24:35that you drop.
24:37It's like, it's just casually dropping like trauma on people.
24:41Like you say your character just said it's like, what?
24:44And it's like, yeah, and it just came out.
24:46Those are my, that's my favorite part about your character.
24:49He's good at quieting a room.
24:50Yeah.
24:51Okay.
24:52Talk about the intergenerational friendship between,
24:54because we saw a little bit of it in that scene before,
24:56but y'all do such a great job.
24:58It's so funny.
24:59That was the easiest part.
25:00Yeah.
25:01That's not always easy with fellow actors, right?
25:03In certain roles.
25:05Well, it depends on the fellow actors.
25:08Yes.
25:08I think from the get-go, when we read together,
25:12we just, there wasn't nobody else in the room,
25:15even though there were like five people, you know,
25:17going to like, how is he doing that?
25:19What do you think?
25:20We should hire him?
25:20And we just, we just began.
25:23And we began improvising.
25:25And at one point, you did it.
25:27You, you did this.
25:29You, you, you said.
25:31We were following this, of course, there wasn't anything there.
25:35I mean, there wasn't even a set.
25:36We were just in an office room.
25:38There was an octopus, though.
25:39There was an octopus.
25:40And he was climbing all over the place.
25:42No, you said, there he goes.
25:44He's going out the door.
25:46And we just went out down the hallway of the,
25:48what, this building we were in.
25:49And they had to follow along behind us going,
25:51what'd they say?
25:52How are they doing?
25:52Oh, take the iPhone off the tripod.
25:54We're going live here.
25:56And you're just going about it.
25:58And they're all trailing behind you?
25:59Yeah, they're all trailing along behind us.
26:00Because we were, we were improvising.
26:03And we were laughing later.
26:04And we just, we created our own world.
26:07Yeah, yeah.
26:07I love that.
26:08Yeah.
26:09And that's brilliant when you're comfortable and you're playing.
26:11Yeah.
26:11Yeah.
26:12Yeah.
26:12I think that's a fun, a fun thing.
26:14Okay, we're going to get to music.
26:15So here's the thing.
26:18I, I went, Josh Brolin was on the show in LA years ago.
26:21Okay.
26:21Oh.
26:22And he tells me his daughter sings.
26:23And I'm like, oh, that's cool.
26:24I'll check her out.
26:25I, I went and looked it up and I was like, damn.
26:27I was like, I loved it.
26:30And her name is Eden.
26:31Yeah.
26:32And he came back.
26:33And you're, and I say, hey, I listened to your, your daughter.
26:35And I love the band.
26:36Attaboy.
26:37I was like, that's the band, right?
26:38And I love, I love, and I, I was telling him,
26:41I was focused more on the, the vocals.
26:43Obviously I'm a vocalist when I was talking to Josh,
26:45but I have a playlist on my, on, on my ranch.
26:49I drive the trails and just sit with my dogs.
26:50That's my peaceful time.
26:51That's my joy.
26:52That's where I find my joy.
26:53And I just go on trails by myself, just going around, whatever.
26:55And I have a playlist and Attaboy is on it.
26:59And I was reading about you and I had no idea you were the drummer.
27:04I had, I had, cause I don't, I'm not like the person,
27:08I'm not on Google, I'm not online, you know?
27:10So it's like, I just had been listening and I didn't know.
27:13And I, you, it's such a great band.
27:16Attaboy.
27:16Attaboy, yeah, you're, yeah.
27:17Well, thank you.
27:18I listen to you so much.
27:19It's amazing.
27:20I like you and Sookie, Waterhouse, like it's all these, like,
27:25it's all this, like, it's such a great vibe.
27:28Y'all's vibe is so cool.
27:29We're, we're all friends from high school, high school friends.
27:32I didn't know.
27:34Yeah, we did.
27:34We played in high school and then we were like about to graduate and we were like,
27:38why don't we just do one recording of what we've done here?
27:41Cause we're all going to go separate ways.
27:42And we did, we put it on Spotify.
27:45And then like 10 years later, thanks to, you know, people like you and people who were just
27:49listening to it.
27:50We like, uh, the guitarist, Freddie, checked the bank account and he was like,
27:53there's kind of some serious money in here.
27:56And we were like, and he was like, should we split it up?
27:58And we looked at it and we were like, well, it's enough to make another album.
28:00Should we get the band back together?
28:03It's so good.
28:05Like, I'm not, no I have like, there's just like a few artists that are like,
28:09it's such a good vibe.
28:10It makes me feel good.
28:12Like y'all's music makes me feel good.
28:13And it's so, well, yeah, that is, y'all are so good.
28:17That's good to hear.
28:17So what are you doing with it now?
28:19Well, we've got a new record coming out this summer.
28:22I know.
28:23I know.
28:24You didn't tell me.
28:26Yeah.
28:26We have to stop for a commercial break.
28:29Everybody give it up for Sally Field and Louis Pullman.
28:33The market is right free for this premiere tomorrow on Netflix.
28:36We're drinking wine next.
28:38We're going to be right back.
28:50Welcome back, y'all.
28:52The Here's Duckhorn has been the go-to wine of the Kelly Clarkson Show.
28:55And this year they're celebrating their 50th anniversary.
28:58And they've set out to recount 50 stories about the winery for each year they've been operating.
29:03Let's welcome back the vice president of sales for the Duckhorn portfolio, Nicole Montesano.
29:10Come on, let's go to Sano.
29:12Let's do this.
29:13I'm so excited you're back.
29:14Yes.
29:14I'm so happy to be back.
29:16Doing one of our favorite things.
29:17Let's dive in.
29:18I know.
29:18Let's do it.
29:19This is the best.
29:20Okay, what are we doing first?
29:21We're going to start.
29:21It's springtime.
29:23We're going to start with our Duckhorn Vineyards North Coast Sauvignon Blanc.
29:28Okay.
29:28So some people who think of Duckhorn Vineyards typically tend to think of us as a red wine company.
29:33They know our Merlot and our Cab, which we'll get to.
29:36Don't you worry.
29:37Yes, we will.
29:39But actually, we're very well known for our Sauvignon Blanc.
29:42It was the first white wine we ever produced.
29:44Okay.
29:44We add this grape called Semillon into the blend.
29:47Okay.
29:48This is a grape that's native to the Bordeaux region that really helps add some complexity
29:52and some nuance to it.
29:54It really layers it in.
29:55And it makes it this elegant, luxury Sauvignon Blanc that I will stop talking now so we
29:59can taste.
30:00Fine.
30:00Thank you, ma'am.
30:01Cheers.
30:02All right.
30:06What do you think?
30:07It's so good.
30:08Yeah.
30:09Okay.
30:09Light and bright and inviting.
30:13Well, I like that one.
30:15We'll say goodbye to you for now, but we'll come back to you.
30:19Okay.
30:19All right.
30:20So now we're moving on to our Duckhorn Vineyards, Napa Valley Chardonnay.
30:24Okay.
30:24Now, in true Duckhorn Portfolio style, nothing's too oaky or buttery, right?
30:30This is really middle of the ground, balanced and finessed.
30:33It's still rich and beautiful, but what you'll find is it's easy to drink, which is what we
30:38love.
30:39So shall we?
30:42That's really good.
30:43A beautiful glass of wine.
30:44This is why 50 years.
30:46You've made it.
30:4650 years.
30:47That's good.
30:48Oh my God.
30:49That would taste so good, too.
30:50It's an excellent pairing.
30:51So super special and honored to be here with you and talking about Duckhorn Vineyards, Napa
30:57Valley Merlot.
30:58This is truly what put the Duckhorn family on the map.
31:02So the late Dan and Margaret, they fell in love with Bordeaux wines, and they specifically
31:06fell in love with Merlot from Bordeaux.
31:09And when they came back to the Napa Valley where they were building a home and a family,
31:13there was no wine called Merlot at the time.
31:16And Merlot was really just the grape that you used to soften your Cabernet.
31:21It was not a standalone wine that was produced in the U.S.
31:25Okay.
31:26It's wild.
31:27So trailblazing to be zigging when everyone else is zagging, right?
31:31And that's really, truly what Dan and Margaret did when they established the Duckhorn Vineyards,
31:34Napa Valley Merlot.
31:35And they created this world-class Merlot that put us on the map.
31:40And I'm just so honored to be here and about to be tasting it with you.
31:44Oh, I love that story right before we-
31:45Yeah, that's special.
31:46It's another cheers moment for us.
31:48Yeah.
31:48Mm-hmm.
31:49Mm.
31:52Got it.
31:52It's so good.
31:54It's delicious.
31:55I just love red wine.
31:56So-
31:57Me too.
31:58Me too.
31:59I love all wine.
32:00It's really good.
32:01I love when it smells like it's going to taste.
32:04Yes.
32:05Sometimes you don't always get that.
32:07It doesn't do that.
32:09That's good.
32:10I'm so glad to be enjoying that with you.
32:12I love that.
32:13Okay.
32:13Let's get to it.
32:14What's next?
32:14Last but certainly not least.
32:16Okay.
32:18Classic Duckhorn Vineyards Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon.
32:21This wine is truly outstanding.
32:24And that's all because of our incredible winemaker, Renee Airy, who's been with us for 23 years.
32:30Oh, wow.
32:31World-class winemaker.
32:32Just excellent, as you'll see when we-
32:34That says even more about the company.
32:36The fact that loyalty, you know, people stick around.
32:38Yes.
32:39Yeah, that says a lot about it.
32:40A great place to work.
32:41Yeah.
32:42Hell yeah.
32:42It is.
32:43The perks are really good.
32:44Yeah.
32:45You should try this.
32:47Really.
32:50And, Julie, this beautiful spread, like, what do you think?
32:53Oh, my God.
32:54I love that one.
32:55I am a red wine lover.
32:56This is really good.
32:57I like this one.
32:58But I will say, this little number.
33:00Yeah.
33:01Yeah.
33:01She's a beaut.
33:01I make love to that.
33:02Yeah.
33:03She's a beaut.
33:03Yeah.
33:04We should probably do it again.
33:05I'm going to cheers this one.
33:06Here we go.
33:07I love it.
33:07This is my favorite.
33:08Cheers.
33:09It's been awesome.
33:11Yeah.
33:12It's so good to see you.
33:13It's so delicious.
33:14Well done.
33:15Cheers.
33:16Well done.
33:17Everybody, give it up for Nicole, and congrats on the anniversary, Duckhorn.
33:21And thank you for sticking with us for seven seasons.
33:24We've been with Duckhorn, and it's been a really beautiful family we've all created here.
33:29So thank you so much.
33:30We're going to be right back, everybody.
33:44Welcome back, everybody.
33:46Last month, I got to sit down with Camila Marone from the Netflix series Something Very Bad
33:50is Going to Happen.
33:51Given the title of Camila's show, it's no surprise we discussed superstitions.
33:54It turns out, well, I have a couple.
33:56Camila has more than most.
33:58It didn't fit in the original episode, so let's roll it now.
34:01You said your character gets a bad feeling in the show.
34:03Are you superstitious?
34:04Yes.
34:05Me too.
34:05I hate it.
34:06What are your superstitions?
34:08I don't know if I should...
34:11You can't even articulate them.
34:12That's how superstitious you are.
34:14I guess I'm wondering.
34:15I'm like, actually, is it superstitious, or I just get worried?
34:17Like, I get...
34:18I just, like, for flying for me, like, I'm always like, especially if I'm not with my
34:22kids, I get...
34:23I'm like, well, this plane's going to go down.
34:25Yeah.
34:26It was, like, legit.
34:27I would tear up, and I'll be like, did I do everything?
34:31Is everything...
34:31Like, I'm like, you know...
34:32I start praying to people I didn't even know I knew.
34:34I mean, I'm like, great-grandmother who I never met, great-grandfather, if you love me,
34:38take care of me on this flight.
34:39I'll put anyone in a prayer.
34:41Yes.
34:41Oh, I heard you do something when you board a plane.
34:44Yeah, I do this, like, double-tap kiss on the outside of the plane.
34:47I won't...
34:48I won't...
34:48I can't take off if I don't do that.
34:49I need to start doing this.
34:51Yes.
34:51Okay.
34:52Yeah.
34:52It's...
34:52I don't...
34:53I can't say it works, but I guess it has worked so far.
34:55You're doing great.
34:55You're doing great.
34:56Yeah.
34:57But I have...
34:57I'm also Latina, and I feel like when you grow up with Latin parents, there's a lot of superstitions.
35:01Like, what's one?
35:02You can't put your purse on the floor, or else you'll lose money.
35:04Oh, lose money.
35:05I've heard that one.
35:05That's a big one.
35:06I put my purse on the floor.
35:07I'm doing fine.
35:07I know.
35:10I was with Chelsea Handler, and she just plopped her purse on the floor, and I was like, no.
35:14She's doing great, too.
35:14You're going to be poor.
35:16And then I'm like, wait, you guys are all doing fine.
35:18Maybe I need to put my purse on the floor.
35:19I was like, no, no, my friend was just like, that's a really nice bag.
35:22And I'm like, and it looks clean, the floor.
35:24It's fine.
35:24Yeah.
35:25Okay.
35:25Well, I don't know.
35:25Salt hand-to-hand.
35:26Would you ever pass salt?
35:27Like, a salt shaker hand-to-hand?
35:29Yeah.
35:29What do you mean?
35:29How do you pass?
35:30Do you throw it?
35:30Oh, no, no.
35:31You put it down.
35:32You can chuck it.
35:33Yeah, chuck it.
35:38I'm going to pass it hand-to-hand.
35:38If salt touches my hand from another person, the whole thing, I have to open it and pour it over
35:42my left shoulder.
35:43Oh, my God.
35:44But by the way, you ask me all these, and I'm like, can't tell you why or what the reasoning
35:48is, but I know I have to do it or my life depends on it.
35:51Okay.
35:51No, I do get like that to where I'm like, something bad will happen if I don't.
35:55Oh, that's so funny.
35:56Something very bad's going to happen.
35:57See how that works?
35:58I didn't even mean to do that.
35:58I know.
35:59Didn't even mean to do that.
36:00What a great deal.
36:00How about choosing?
36:01Like, you need to look in the eyes.
36:02Oh, no.
36:02So I'm not like that, but one of my friends was so angry at me because I didn't do it,
36:07but now I do it with everyone.
36:08That's like medieval times.
36:09You want to see if someone's going to poison you, so you would click.
36:12And if they freaked out because some of your juice got in theirs, and you see their eye reaction, then
36:17you know they're trying to poison you and kill you.
36:19Is that why?
36:19I think so, but listen, I read that on one.
36:22Oh, my God.
36:23I think I read that on Reddit.
36:23That's pretty clever.
36:24I'm not sure, but it sounds really fancy, so I've been telling people now.
36:28Yeah, so it's true.
36:29So it's true.
36:30If it's on Reddit, it's true.
36:31That's pretty clever, though.
36:32Yeah.
36:33I'd switch drinks.
36:34And the other ones, I mean, under a ladder, I'm not walking under a ladder.
36:38No, I've heard that one.
36:38Yeah, there's ones that I've heard of.
36:40You hear them, but you stave away.
36:41You don't really engage.
36:42No, that's why I changed.
36:43Right when I said it, I was like, I don't know if I'm super sick.
36:45There's just certain things I'm a worrier with certain things.
36:49Yes.
36:50So is Rachel.
36:50She's super paranoid.
36:51I wasn't like that before kids, though.
36:53It's weird.
36:53I came out like that.
36:54Yeah.
36:56All right, y'all can catch Camila in Something Very Bad is Going to Happen.
36:59All episodes are streaming now on Netflix.
37:01We're going to be right back with What I'm Liking.
37:15All right, y'all.
37:15We're going to wrap things up with one more great story.
37:18This is What I'm Liking.
37:21Our childhood experiences shape who we become.
37:24For TV executive producer Gloria Harrison Hall, that childhood involved at least two hours
37:28a day on a bus going from her inner city home to a wealthy school in a predominantly white
37:33neighborhood.
37:34Now she's written a kid's book that captures the spirit of growing up in two competing spaces
37:38and how she navigated it.
37:40It's called Glow, My Childhood in Two Worlds.
37:43We have her on the line right now to talk to us about it.
37:46Hi.
37:46Welcome to the show.
37:48Hi, Kelly.
37:49Thank you all so much for having me.
37:51No, Gloria.
37:52Thank you so much.
37:53It's an honor to have you here.
37:54Explain what your childhood was like before we talk about the book.
37:57Okay, great.
37:57So I grew up in the inner city of Boston and my parents signed me up for a busing program
38:02and that would take me to a wealthy suburb that was about an hour away each in the morning
38:06and the evening because they said it was going to be a better opportunity for me.
38:10And so I was super excited.
38:11At the age of six, here I go.
38:12They put me on a school bus.
38:14I get on the bus and everybody on the bus looks like me.
38:17They look like my mom.
38:18They look like my dad.
38:19But then when I got to the school, I walked down the hallway.
38:22I get in the classroom.
38:22I'm like, hold up.
38:24Nobody looks like me.
38:26And that's when I realized that I was the one who was different.
38:29And I got to be honest, there were times when I didn't get picked for soccer.
38:33There would be times when I didn't get picked for at recess or I was the last one to be
38:37picked.
38:37And that was kind of odd for me because I know I'm good, but somehow I wasn't good enough.
38:42And so I struggled in that world, in the suburbs, as well as the inner city.
38:46And I'm grateful for my parents because they always told me, you know what, Gloria?
38:49You're worthy.
38:50Why did you decide to change this into a children's book?
38:53You know, because the book is the book I needed as a child.
38:56And being a mom of three, you know, I would go to the kids' schools and volunteer and read and
39:01listen how excited they were to hear my story.
39:04And I said, you know what, I want to try to make it a little easier for young children, get
39:08them at an early age and realize their worth.
39:10And so that's why I wanted to write it at a young age, to maybe make it a little easier
39:15for young people so maybe they don't have to go through as much as I did when I was younger.
39:19Yeah.
39:20It's a beautiful thing to use your story to help other people with theirs.
39:23It's a really remarkably beautiful thing.
39:25And you're trying to ensure every kid gets a copy.
39:28How so?
39:29Yes.
39:30So I'm hoping through sponsorships and with companies, like, we could work together to not only read the book, but
39:35for each child to take the book home and have it as a keepsake.
39:39Really, honestly, for maybe families who otherwise couldn't afford it.
39:43And so my goal is to listen, get sponsorship, get companies.
39:46Let's get this book into the hands as many kids as possible.
39:51Yeah, and build their own libraries.
39:52This is a beautiful thing.
39:54Thank you so much, Gloria.
39:55I'm liking your post right now.
39:56That's not all, though.
39:58Our season-long partner, Pilot Pen, Makers of Friction, the go-to erasable pen of The Kelly Clarkson Show.
40:02Love that you're spreading the love of reading and helping build confidence and worthiness.
40:07So in your name, they're donating $1,000 to Harlem School of the Arts, one of the schools where you
40:12read books to kids.
40:13Thank you so much.
40:15Thank you so much, Kelly.
40:16Thank you for using your story.
40:18It's very powerful.
40:20And it's obviously going to impact so many with their own stories in life.
40:23Thank you, Gloria.
40:25Thank you to all our guests this hour.
40:27Sally Fields, Lewis Coleman, Nicole Montesano, and Camila Moreau.
40:32Y'all have a great day.
40:33And it's not trying to change it.
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