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00:04Start the clock.
00:38Thank you very much people, how are you?
00:46Okay, thank you real-time regulars, I appreciate it, thank you, you sound like a great crowd.
00:59And, I know why you're happy, great news, peace at last, we have an agreement, a deal,
01:07a peace deal, not the Iran war, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
01:12That's who I'm talking about.
01:17Man, were you reading about this for like a year went on, all this arguing and suing
01:22and then it turns out, no settlement money at all.
01:25Just over a movie called It Ends With Us that everybody hated.
01:30Did you see that movie?
01:32It was harder to get through than the Strait of Hormuz.
01:41Oh yes, okay, well the war, okay, so we are officially ended with Operation Epic Fury and
01:47now we have moved on to Project Freedom, which is also over.
01:53Really.
01:54No, I'm not kidding.
01:56That was...
01:59Project Freedom, that was our attempt to escort the ships through the Strait of Hormuz, where
02:04there are now 1,800 ships stuck.
02:06Last person who needed this many escorts was Hunter Biden.
02:13So...
02:17But Iran, yeah, they are blocking the Strait and they say they're going to collect tolls
02:22now of all the ships and Trump is furious.
02:26Furious that he didn't think of it first, is what he's...
02:30So it's a...
02:33It's a game of chicken and Trump said he wants the Iranians to know America does not blink.
02:39Lose interest and wander away?
02:41Yes, we do that all the time, but we don't do it.
02:44But we kind of have to...
02:48We kind of have to because we've apparently used up all our missiles.
02:53Yeah, they found...
02:54Not all, but our stockpile is greatly depleted at...
02:57This is so ridiculous.
02:59America, the most strapped country in the world, ran out of bombs.
03:05It's like Diddy running out of baby oil.
03:06I mean...
03:10And...
03:14But let's not be gloomy.
03:16It's Mother's Day on Sunday.
03:18Do you have mothers?
03:20I had one.
03:21It's very common.
03:23And, of course, there's a baby boom over at the White House.
03:26You know this, in the administration, a lot of people having babies over there.
03:29And for the press spokesman, you've seen her, Carolyn Levitt.
03:32Yes, she just...
03:32What timing?
03:33She just had a baby and they asked her, you know,
03:35are you excited to be a mom again?
03:37And she said, what a stupid question.
03:39Do your research.
03:41Of course I'm excited to be a mom.
03:46Now listen...
03:49If you are old enough to be watching this show, you were born when your mother could have an abortion.
03:55She had the right to have an abortion.
03:57And that is not the case anymore, really, in a lot of this country.
04:00So, maybe when you write a card this year, say, thanks, Mom.
04:04You could have killed me and you didn't.
04:09Oh, and speaking of killing, apparently they found Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note.
04:21Apparently it was from the guy, his cellmate, who Epstein says tried to kill him.
04:25But he's the guy who found the note.
04:28But he's the guy who found the note.
04:28And it says, they investigated me.
04:30And then in all caps, it says, found nothing, three explanation points.
04:35What does that sound like?
04:38I can't quite place it.
04:40I, uh...
04:41No.
04:43No, I'm not suspicious.
04:45I'm not suspicious, but the note does end by saying, thank you for your attention to this matter.
04:50I, I...
04:57Okay.
04:59Good news for Gen Z.
05:01Uh, we may be wearing masks again.
05:05Uh...
05:06Well, because you heard about the cruise ship?
05:08There's a cruise ship out there that has hantavirus.
05:11Ooh, probably this is nasty.
05:12Three people have died.
05:13Hantavirus.
05:14And, uh, the first report said there was a flight attendant who got it from the passengers.
05:20Boy, suddenly spirit doesn't sound that bad, does it?
05:23I...
05:24But, no.
05:29But, no.
05:31The flight attendant tested negative, which is good news because it would be ironic if the flight attendant had hantavirus
05:37and the cure was peanuts.
05:39All right.
05:39Uh, we've got a great show.
05:41Representative Dan Crenshaw and Donna Brazile are here.
05:44But, first up, he is a Democratic senator from Pennsylvania, and he is my friend.
05:49Senator John Fetterman is over here.
05:53John?
05:57Good to see you again.
06:02All right.
06:03All right.
06:05John, you're wearing your good black.
06:07Did you have a...
06:08Yeah, yeah.
06:09Did you have a speech on the Senate?
06:10I mix it up to, you know...
06:11Did you have a speech on the Senate floor or something where you had to look your best?
06:16No, I...
06:19I like your outfit.
06:20I do.
06:22Uh, so, I read your op-ed today, I think it was, in the Washington Post.
06:27Um, and it's interesting because we often find ourselves sort of in the same place politically,
06:33I think.
06:34Yeah, exactly.
06:34Yeah, where...
06:35When your values haven't changed, but the party really has changed and it's kind of put
06:41you at odds, and...
06:42Yeah, you used the term increasingly lonely.
06:45You said you feel increasingly lonely as a Democrat.
06:48Do you want to unburden yourself and tell us about that?
06:52Yeah, well, I mean, some people think it's like a glamorous life.
06:55And it is not.
06:56At least, uh, for me, you know, we have, uh...
06:59Plainly.
07:00Yeah, yeah.
07:02Well, we...
07:03No, I mean, uh, I mean, from a lonely perspective, uh, you know, things that used to be part of
07:10our values here as a party, uh, that they're shifted.
07:14You know, whether it's like specifically Israel and the Jewish community, and now also the border
07:20security, and then also recently the two longest shutdowns in history.
07:26And I've, you know, had to vote against the caucus.
07:30I don't...
07:31I don't enjoy that.
07:32But we used to be the party that would always refuse to shut the government down.
07:36Um, and now we now have shut it down and dropped a lot of mass chaos, and I just couldn't
07:42be a part of that.
07:42Yeah, I think we get the same, uh, charge levied against us that we're picking fights with the left.
07:49We're not picking fights.
07:50We're just not avoiding them.
07:52Yeah.
07:53I mean, you used the term an orgy of socialism recently.
07:56You said that what you see...
07:58Yeah, yeah.
07:58...it's what you see in the Democratic Party.
08:00I do, too.
08:02Yeah, well, I mean, you have whether it's like the mayor in Seattle.
08:06I mean, she's absolutely a socialist in New York, and a lot of these candidates across the country.
08:13And that's really moving towards that.
08:16And people that are proud to be labeled as a socialist.
08:19That used to be, like, was a smear when I was running my first cycle.
08:23And now that's becoming more normalized.
08:25And now I think that's a very dangerous, slippery slope for us to be.
08:30And now I've spoke to people that had to live under socialism and or communism.
08:35And they are, like, they are morons if they think that socialism is the answer.
08:40You know, I've lived under that, and thank God we are now...
08:43Well, we already have a great deal of socialism.
08:46And I've made the point a million times on the show, as we should.
08:50All Western democracies are quasi-socialist.
08:53There are certain things that the government should do.
08:55You know, you don't want the private enterprise to be controlling the Marine Corps.
09:00And, you know, Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, obviously these things.
09:04We have socialism.
09:06They're just proposing something way more than that.
09:09And, by the way, you said socialism, dirty word?
09:12Yeah, yes and no.
09:13What really was a dirty word, which isn't anymore, is communism.
09:17Yeah.
09:18I mean, this woman in New York, who is Mayor Mondami's right-hand woman,
09:23she tweets out, elect more communists.
09:27This guy, Graham Plattner?
09:30Yeah.
09:31Who is the...
09:31Yeah, it's not a slur if I refer to him as a communist.
09:36That's his own term that he used for himself.
09:38Yes.
09:39Antifa and these other kinds of extreme things.
09:42Now, that's his own words.
09:43That's not my view.
09:45And I'm not using that as a slur.
09:48But the idea that communist is not a dirty word.
09:52I think we need to pause here and say, okay, this is a watermark.
09:56This is a watershed mark.
09:58A moment in American history where we should pay attention.
10:01And my guess is because AI is going to be taking everybody's jobs,
10:08communism is only going to get more popular.
10:11Well, I sure hope not, because, you know, like the...
10:15If our party, it's like that...
10:17It's that expression, you know, bad ideas refuse to die.
10:21And now that's coming back.
10:23And a lot of this, the Trump and the backlash,
10:25is making more and more things possible in the Democratic Party.
10:29And I'm consistently going to resist that kinds of extremes
10:32and those extremes that cost us in 2024.
10:35We all have to remember that we need to have an election against both sides.
10:40We're accountable for both sides in these kinds of states
10:45that really depend to deliver for the presidency.
10:49And that's why I refuse to be engaged.
10:53I know how to pay the bills as a Democrat right now.
10:56And my colleagues and people that are running, whether for the Senate or the House,
11:01they are literally running on fuck Trump.
11:04I mean, that's literally...
11:05They have campaign commercials, that.
11:09And it's absurd.
11:11And we are getting to that point.
11:13And I refuse to engage in the extreme, those terms.
11:17And we have to find a better way forward.
11:20And now I've been punished to try to find value in certain views.
11:25Now, like for the ballroom, you know, we've talked about that.
11:28I don't care about the ballroom.
11:29I don't either.
11:29Yeah, I mean, it's like...
11:31It's so stupid.
11:31It's such a Rorschach test of whether you just hate.
11:35Yeah.
11:35Because, first of all, like we saw with the assassination attempt a couple of weeks ago,
11:41America probably does need...
11:43You know what the problem is?
11:44I said it to you the other day on the podcast, which I think is on next week.
11:48It's the word.
11:49Ballroom.
11:50It sounds...
11:51Ballroom.
11:52Sounds like, you know, fops are pirouetting around.
11:55And it's just...
11:56If they called it the State Dinner National Center, it would be different.
12:00But this is America.
12:02And we're secure.
12:02We don't want people sitting in tents to have dinner.
12:05I mean, it's just...
12:06Exactly.
12:07I mean, you know, I was two tables away at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
12:13I've witnessed this, and I was...
12:14To table from the killing?
12:16Yeah.
12:16From the attempt, you mean?
12:18Yeah.
12:18And that's...
12:20I had to see that I'm like the entire line of succession was right there.
12:24And realized that we've put...
12:26There's real danger there.
12:27We got really lucky there for a lot of reasons.
12:29So now we need to have a more secure...
12:32More secure...
12:33To do these kinds of events.
12:35But I don't care about...
12:36You know, like, just build it.
12:37I mean, he won't even be president when it's...
12:39If it's even finished.
12:41Yeah.
12:41I mean, concentrate on the big things.
12:43The things that really matter.
12:44Exactly.
12:46That's what I keep trying to say here.
12:47So there's no...
12:48There's no truth, right, that you're actually going to switch parties.
12:51Because I know Trump has offered you.
12:52I mean, you said, I would be a shitty Republican.
12:56Yeah.
12:57Yeah.
12:57That's, you know...
12:58And, you know, if I...
12:59If I ever decide to change, and I won't, I'll be...
13:03You know, have me on and I will announce that.
13:05But it's not gonna...
13:07It's like, you know, I'm a committed Democrat, even though if I vote 93% of the time...
13:14With the Democrats.
13:14Yeah.
13:14I thought we were supposed to be a big tent party.
13:17So that's...
13:18I'm not really sure how I become an issue for any of the Democrats just to having some
13:23different views in these other issues.
13:25No, you said you're...
13:30You said before, you're...
13:31You're pro-choice, you're pro-weed, you're pro-gay rights, you're pro-labor.
13:36Yeah.
13:37You also throw in there, I'm pro-ribeye and not bio-slop.
13:40I don't know why that has to go in there.
13:43That sounds like a great Republican to me, but...
13:46Yeah, what is your thing with...
13:49Look, and by the way, I don't eat fake meat either.
13:52I mean, my friends at PETA would love it if I did.
13:54But, look, I mean, the science is the science.
13:57I don't think that stuff is really better for you than organic real meat.
14:01I mean, it's certainly not better for the animal like getting killed.
14:04But, as far as the science goes, but you actually want to bend.
14:08That doesn't seem...
14:09Yeah, I just think, I mean, as I'm a member of the Agriculture Committee,
14:14and I really stand with our farmers now.
14:17And now, of course, we don't want, like, the factory farm situation
14:21and absolutely opposed to aminal cruelty.
14:24But for me, if I lived on Mars, yeah, you know, those kinds of...
14:30that kind of...
14:31what's the lab meat would be a great opportunity.
14:34But for me, right now, like, it's...
14:37But you want to ban it?
14:38I mean, shouldn't people have the right to eat it?
14:40No, it's, like, actively?
14:42I mean, if people have a chance to...
14:46for that, that.
14:47But overall, for me, I think, you know, someone that's really...
14:52I mean, we are just...
14:53I thought, you know, the really highly, highly processed food,
14:58I mean, that's exactly the essence of that.
15:01Yeah, but there's a lot worse highly processed food.
15:04I mean, I could go into the supermarket and pick up...
15:06Well, we don't want to ban all of that.
15:08People have the right to eat what they want, don't they?
15:10I mean, don't tell the population of America
15:12that they can't eat what they want.
15:14Well, I mean, it's...
15:15You think they're up in arms about shit now?
15:16You'll really have a riot on your phone.
15:19Well, I mean, overall, it's not a top priority for me,
15:22given everything else that's happening right now.
15:25So, overall, as someone that is a committed Democrat,
15:28I find myself isolated by my party as things continue.
15:32I'm going to just have...
15:33play, you know, balls, strikes, and just...
15:37Yeah, I...
15:38Okay, well, you know I'm your fan,
15:40because the Democratic Party
15:41certainly needs someone to keep them honest,
15:44and it's the man in the shorts.
15:46Thank you, John.
15:48I appreciate it.
15:50All right, John Fetterman, he's going to towel over me now.
15:53All right, let's meet our panel.
15:55Thank you, John.
16:01Hello.
16:02Hello, brother.
16:03How are you?
16:04All right, he is a Republican congressman
16:06for a couple more months from Texas,
16:07author of the best-selling book, Fortitude,
16:09and host of the podcast,
16:11Hold These Truths with Dan Crenshaw,
16:12Representative Dan Crenshaw.
16:16And she's a veteran political strategist,
16:19ABC News, and former DNC chair,
16:22Donna Brazile is over here.
16:25How are you?
16:27All right.
16:30Okay.
16:31So, the midterm elections are about six months away,
16:34and it usually happens the party out of power
16:38does well in the midterm elections,
16:40and the party in power right now
16:41is historically unpopular,
16:44mostly because of what I call the three I's.
16:46That would be ICE, Iran, and inflation.
16:49Hmm.
16:49And it would...
16:50It seems only a few weeks ago, maybe months ago,
16:53that it would be impossible for the Democrats
16:55to lose this election.
16:56No way.
16:58Well, headline today, way.
17:01There is a way.
17:03And it's because of what they do.
17:05When they don't win, they cheat.
17:06I mean...
17:07So, this is the big story today, gerrymandering.
17:10This has gone nuclear.
17:11And Republicans are winning the gerrymander war.
17:14We talked about it last week,
17:16but a lot has changed since then.
17:17As you know, it started with Texas, your state.
17:20Trump said, gerrymander Texas?
17:22Okay.
17:23So they got, like, four or five new seats in Texas.
17:25California responded and said,
17:27okay, we're gonna do the same thing.
17:29All right, so now we're...
17:30This is a terrible road to go down,
17:31but at least we're even.
17:33Okay.
17:33Now the Supreme Court ruled last week
17:35on the Voting Rights Act.
17:37Everything is different now.
17:38Eight states have new maps now.
17:40And five more are planning to.
17:42Texas, Florida, Ohio, Missouri, North Carolina.
17:45They're all now more Republican.
17:47These states that had districts
17:49that minorities were electing candidates from.
17:54Virginia did it on the Democratic side,
17:56and the Supreme Court in the state said they can't.
18:00So that's a big loss for the Democrats.
18:02They're not gonna get that to even the score.
18:04And Tennessee now.
18:06Show the map of the Tennessee.
18:08This is really what's going on here.
18:09Look at this.
18:10They've taken Memphis, a majority black city,
18:13and they moved it into three different districts
18:16to dilute the vote.
18:18Now, I'm gonna turn this over to the former chair of the DNC
18:21for your commentary, because I'm sure you have a lot to say.
18:25Well, first of all, it's always a great honor
18:27to be back here in California with Bill,
18:29and congratulations on the Mark Twain Award.
18:31Oh, thank you.
18:32Well, I appreciate it.
18:35I mean, you know, Bill, I can't keep up with you, baby.
18:39Every time I...
18:42I go for months, Congressman, without seeing this man,
18:45and he makes all kinds of trouble.
18:47I have to come back here and clean up your shit.
18:49I mean...
18:50He begs. He begs.
18:52I mean, talk about a desperate housewife.
18:58Come on, baby.
18:59Clean your own stuff up.
19:00But let me just say this, Bill.
19:02Let me just say this.
19:04The rumors that the Democratic Party is dead,
19:06those rumors are as old as Methusen.
19:10We have about 179 days.
19:12It's gonna be a tough election, no question about it.
19:15But you know what?
19:15We have a small tailwind.
19:18No, I do not like what's going on with redistricting.
19:21You know why, Bill?
19:22I'll come from one of those states
19:23that all of a sudden the Supreme Court said,
19:28well, we don't like partisan gerrymandering.
19:31No, we don't like racial gerrymandering.
19:32So one out of three voters in Louisiana is a black voter.
19:36One out of three.
19:37And they're now thinking of eradicating.
19:40So that's as if people from some parts of Louisiana
19:44can represent New Orleans better than the folks
19:47who are representing Baton Rouge.
19:49It's wrong, it's immoral, and it's unjustified.
19:52Bill, let me just say this.
19:57And...
19:59And I saw what the congressman tweeted today
20:02after Tim Kaine.
20:04But here's it.
20:05I'm old enough to know this.
20:06What do you tweet?
20:07I don't know.
20:08Well, he's gonna have...
20:09Tim Kaine is wrong.
20:10He's wrong.
20:11Well, he's wrong.
20:12No, he's not.
20:13He's not usually.
20:14He's saying, well, the Constitution is...
20:17They made it based on Constitution.
20:19They made it based on...
20:20They said, well, the voters were already voting
20:22when the state put this law into place,
20:25so that the voters can decide.
20:26The voters decided in, as you all know, California,
20:29the voters decided in Virginia.
20:33Politicians should not choose their voters.
20:35But I have one broad question.
20:36Well, they've done it forever.
20:37What?
20:38We've never...
20:39Don't I know that, Bill?
20:40The Constitution, 1787.
20:43Wait a minute.
20:441787.
20:44Wait a minute.
20:46What Tim Kaine said.
20:471787.
20:48I'm gonna give you what Tim Kaine said.
20:501787, the Constitution.
20:51When did my family get the right to vote, Bill?
20:541965.
20:5561 years ago.
20:56So my daddy served in war
20:58and could not vote for that.
21:00My grandparent...
21:01My grandmother was 77
21:02when she got the right to vote.
21:04Yeah, I'm on your side.
21:05Don't yell at me.
21:05So we understand...
21:06Are you on my side?
21:07Yeah, of course.
21:07I didn't know.
21:09You're on the side of the Constitution.
21:10You're on the side of democracy.
21:11No, I...
21:12So, Congressman,
21:13I will let you describe
21:14why you went into Tim Kaine's ass today.
21:21He tried to put his entire size
21:23and loving in the man's ass.
21:25Phrasing.
21:26You know, phrasing.
21:27I don't...
21:28Anyway, he's the last ass I would go into.
21:32Okay.
21:33But, uh...
21:35Kaine...
21:35Kaine was...
21:36He was making the case
21:38that the Supreme Court
21:38doesn't know what it's talking about
21:39and that they're misreading it.
21:41I pointed out that he should...
21:43I know reading is time-consuming,
21:45but you might read the actual, uh, case
21:48that the Supreme Court wrote.
21:49It's very well written.
21:50It's very logically written.
21:51It's pretty irrefutable.
21:52I mean, it was a ten-to-one vote.
21:54They're making the case that simply...
21:55Four to three in Virginia.
21:55The constitutional amendment
21:57was in itself unconstitutional
22:00because of the process they followed.
22:01That's what the Supreme Court argued.
22:03It was not about the ability
22:04to politically gerrymander.
22:06I'll start with, like, one principle,
22:07just taking a step back here.
22:08Your...
22:09Your states can...
22:11can do political redistricting.
22:13That's how our constitution...
22:14our federal constitution is written.
22:16If we'd like a better system
22:18and we're smarter than the founders,
22:20then we can figure out a better way to do that.
22:22But it's inherently political.
22:23Every state has a different way of doing it.
22:25Some have independent commissions
22:26or bipartisan commissions.
22:28Right.
22:28Even those are chosen in a political way,
22:30a political process.
22:31It will always be political,
22:32so just get used to it.
22:33Okay.
22:33But second...
22:34One more thing to point out.
22:36To say we're winning...
22:38Republicans are winning the redistricting war,
22:40we're...
22:40I think we're catching up.
22:41And if I can point to the facts on...
22:43Look, let's go to Illinois.
22:44You got a 14-to-3 ratio.
22:46Washington, you got a 10-to-2 ratio.
22:48New England has, like, a 21-to-0 ratio.
22:51California, out of 52 representatives,
22:54they're gonna have maybe five, six Republicans.
22:57You know, in Texas, we redistricted.
22:58We're 30-to-10.
22:59Florida's now gonna be 20-to-7.
23:01Like, they're...
23:03Democrats have been winning this battle
23:05for a long time.
23:06I'm not sure about that.
23:08North Carolina...
23:0910-4.
23:1010 Republicans, 4 Democrats.
23:1110-4.
23:12Ohio, 10 Republicans, 5 Democrats.
23:15Texas, 25 Republicans, 13...
23:18In a state that is majority-minority.
23:19Can I just show...
23:20Okay.
23:20Let me just show you...
23:22Why does skin color, like,
23:24automatically impose political beliefs?
23:26Because race has always been identified
23:30as a political consideration,
23:32not only as it relates to the Constitution
23:34of the United States,
23:35but also how it is implemented at the state level.
23:38That's why these districts were always drawn,
23:40so that they took race into consideration.
23:43So that's my point.
23:44Yes.
23:45But why?
23:46Why should an enlightened society believe that?
23:50Because of the history of the United States.
23:52Well, it was a history,
23:53but as we grow out of that history,
23:54which I hope we would have by now...
23:56As I...
23:56You...
23:57An enlightened society would not say
23:58that your skin color
23:59are an immutable characteristic
24:00as an indicator of your political...
24:02To me, this is always the problem
24:04with the Supreme Court.
24:05They don't really take into account
24:06practical effect.
24:08Remember the Citizens United ruling
24:10about as much dark money as you want
24:12in politics,
24:13and Obama was at the State of the Union,
24:15and he said,
24:16this is going to change everything
24:17in Alito mouth.
24:18No.
24:19Yes.
24:20Yes.
24:21Yes, it did.
24:22They don't take this into account.
24:24As I said last week,
24:25I guess you didn't watch the show.
24:27They're not supposed to.
24:27They're literally not supposed to take that into account.
24:30But I said,
24:31we're not living in the future.
24:32It would be nice if that was where...
24:34And we are way, way different than we were
24:3620 years ago, 50 years ago.
24:39The world is very different,
24:40and I've certainly taken my shit from the left
24:43for pointing out constantly
24:44that they are hyper-focused on race,
24:47and when they say things like,
24:49racism has never been worse,
24:51you're just ridiculous.
24:52But we are also not living in the future.
24:54Show this map, please.
24:56This is what the map could look like in the south,
24:58of what it used to look like.
25:00See those blue?
25:01Those are blue districts.
25:03This is what it's going to look like now.
25:05There are districts that have been carved out
25:08so that minorities are represented.
25:10For sure.
25:11That is racial gerrymandering.
25:13It has to happen until we are living in the present,
25:16in the future, and we're not.
25:17And if you think that you're going to take away
25:20all these black representatives
25:22in the United States Congress without repercussions,
25:26I mean, you take away that many
25:27and have them...
25:29Black people have scant representation in Congress,
25:33this is not going to stay...
25:34The new governor of Florida is likely going to be black.
25:37You know?
25:39This is...
25:40White Republicans are voting him in.
25:42Look, first of all, let me just say this.
25:43For most of my childhood, I was represented
25:47by a white female, Lindy Boggs.
25:50She was outstanding, amazing.
25:52And when the moment came in history that she said,
25:55you know, I have served my time,
25:57and this is an opportunity now to expand the electorate,
26:01to give more people a seat at the table.
26:04Look, we have black representatives, as you well know,
26:06who represent largely white.
26:08I mean, we had...
26:09Utah has had two blacks, not one.
26:11They're Republicans.
26:12And by the way, if you can elect more black Republicans,
26:15go ahead.
26:15I'll elect more black Democrats.
26:17We got a black Democrat out of Rhode Island.
26:19We got a black Democrat in Washington State.
26:21Ain't nothing wrong with being black
26:22and living in Nebraska or Kansas.
26:24That's okay.
26:25What I'm saying is that in the South,
26:27where half the black population reside,
26:31we should not be told
26:33that we no longer have a seat at the table.
26:35We do not.
26:36And this is my only thing.
26:37Bill, I do watch your...
26:40I watched him on Friday night,
26:42and I went on ABC on Sunday hotter than July.
26:45So I say, I've got to stop watching Bill
26:46because you really piked me up, baby.
26:49I didn't want to lose my job.
26:50You piked me up.
26:51I don't know.
26:52I said, whoo-hoo!
26:54Whoo!
26:58I think it's...
26:59And by the way, nobody gave us a voting right.
27:02We bled for it.
27:03Okay.
27:04All right.
27:09The only thing to say about the Supreme Court decision here
27:11so that people are informed about it
27:14is they struck down this idea,
27:17and it's an idea.
27:18It's not written in statute.
27:20Oh, Lord.
27:20It's an idea that there has to be
27:21minority-minority districts.
27:23That was not in the Voting Rights Act.
27:24There's nowhere in there that says that.
27:26You're right about the...
27:27It's been interpreted.
27:28That's policy.
27:29You're right about the letter of the law.
27:31That's correct.
27:31But you know what?
27:32Find a new law.
27:33That's why you have a whole wall of books behind you.
27:36Then write a new law.
27:38They...
27:38That's...
27:39That's the process.
27:40We got one.
27:41The John Lewis Voting Rights Act,
27:43and I hope you become a sponsor.
27:45We would love your support.
27:46If...
27:46If...
27:46If the majority of American people want this...
27:49Obviously.
27:49And again, again, I would just...
27:51Well, baby.
27:54That's...
27:54Okay.
27:56How many kisses?
27:57How many kisses?
27:58Just one kiss?
28:00You don't want my foot.
28:05I'm gonna kiss.
28:06Look, we need support.
28:08We need to fight.
28:09Make it weird.
28:09Make it weird.
28:10And by the way...
28:10Let's make it weird.
28:11When...
28:11I'm not weird.
28:14There's nothing tanky about me.
28:16Okay?
28:16Hello?
28:17Unless I'm in the kitchen with my apron on.
28:22It covers up things, man.
28:25Okay.
28:26Look, the Voting Rights Act ended all kinds of schemes that kept not just blacks' bill, but
28:32poor whites.
28:33Think about the poll tax.
28:34Yeah.
28:34Think about the literacy tax.
28:36It was necessary.
28:37It kept poor whites, too.
28:37Absolutely necessary.
28:38So it was important that we struck down those laws and those rules so that we could
28:42have free and fair elections across the country.
28:44I am worried that we are going to be able to go to the South when we want to see
28:48the
28:48SEC play.
28:49Oh, we got black athletes!
28:51But they have no representation.
28:54Where is it?
28:55Oh, through the South.
28:56Who doesn't?
28:57I mean, you're gonna see black athletes playing this fall, throwing for LSU, throwing for
29:01Tennessee, Alabama, but no black representation in Congress.
29:05Oh, I see what you're saying.
29:06That's my point is.
29:07Yeah.
29:07No, I understand.
29:07You know, I am very disturbed by this.
29:09I'm disturbed that we are turning back at a time when America's about to turn 250.
29:14I got my red, white, and blue gown, baby, and you gonna take me to the Dallas?
29:17I know.
29:18I know.
29:18I know.
29:18I know.
29:19I know.
29:21I know.
29:22I know.
29:25I know.
29:26But the letter of the law is written for a perfect world.
29:29We don't live in that perfect world.
29:30No.
29:30I don't mean to speak for the black population.
29:32But you live in a lawful world.
29:32That is your job, but I'm just channeling...
29:34Well, I can't speak for white people either, so you're okay.
29:36Okay.
29:36I'm just channeling the black folks I know.
29:40They like white people more than they used to, because we are nicer than we used to be.
29:45But trust us?
29:46No.
29:47And I don't blame them.
29:48So there's just a lot of black folks who are not quite ready to vote for the white representative.
29:54They don't understand their life, because we are still a divided country in many ways.
30:01Yes, we are.
30:02I mean, when my friend Killer Mike puts out an album, I have to read the lyrics.
30:08And even then I don't understand it.
30:11It's a...
30:12No, I'm serious.
30:14I'm saying this to make a point.
30:16It's a...
30:16If that's the case, where it's as different from English as Chaucer is.
30:22And that's just pointing out that we are not quite living in the future.
30:27Well, if you want to start living in the future, you have to go back to original principles.
30:30And original principles say that immutable characteristics such as...
30:32The original principle was slavery was legal.
30:34Such as skin color should not be an indication of your character.
30:37That's an original principle.
30:38That's a foundational liberal principle.
30:41By the way, in a constitution where slavery was legal.
30:45So...
30:46And then we fought a war to end it.
30:47I know.
30:47Because of our Declaration of Independence and the values, those original principles that
30:51we stated there.
30:52And that was used as the argument against slavery by the Republicans.
30:55And look, maybe we need another period of enlightenment because I'm going back to all of those theories
31:00that gave us this so-called great constitution, the Bill of Rights, and of course the Declaration
31:05of Independence.
31:07But let me just say this.
31:08As you well know, it took women almost 144 years to secure the right to vote.
31:13Right.
31:13And look, we just had to fight once again for a medication that is safe.
31:18Safe.
31:19The Fifth Circuit saying that we should not receive our medication in the mail.
31:23It's medication.
31:24And people keep saying it's an abortion pill.
31:26Women need to have full access to the range of reproductive health care.
31:31No one should die having a miscarriage.
31:33Okay.
31:33All right.
31:36All right.
31:36I have to move on.
31:39I have to move on.
31:40You got a miscarriage.
31:40No, that's a very important thing.
31:43Wait, wait.
31:44Let me tell you what this is.
31:45A couple of weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I did a whole editorial about aliens because,
31:51you know, the world has changed now.
31:55I mean, it used to be the people who were talking about it were not the most serious people
31:59in the world.
32:00And now they are.
32:01It is the most serious people, military people.
32:04Two movies.
32:05One is a documentary.
32:06One is the Spielberg movie that's coming out.
32:08They both use the word disclosure in the title.
32:11We seem to be at that place.
32:13Trump is on board with this.
32:14He keeps teasing that we are going to see the files.
32:17Well, today was the day they released a lot of the files.
32:21Now, some of it is probably nothing.
32:23Some of it is interesting that I never heard before.
32:25Like the astronauts on the Apollo 17 flight saw things that they were talking about that
32:31they thought was strange.
32:32I mean, do you think they were really there, though?
32:33Oh, I don't know.
32:34But what I do know, and don't ask me how we got it, we got a hold of the...
32:40Oh, no.
32:41Absolutely.
32:42We got a hold of the stuff.
32:47Some of this hasn't even been released yet.
32:49Would you like to hear this?
32:50I mean, this is all about what we don't know about the aliens, because...
32:53All right.
32:55For example...
32:56Oh, this is so interesting right here.
32:59They never wash the anal probe.
33:01I...
33:01I...
33:02No.
33:04Um...
33:05What else?
33:06Oh.
33:07This is...
33:07Their central computer was once destroyed by the illogic of North Dakota getting two senators.
33:13That's...
33:15Um...
33:16Oh.
33:17Uh...
33:18They don't reproduce through physical contact, just like Gen Z.
33:21Oh.
33:28Sometimes after the anal probe they say, now do me.
33:36oh very interesting they did build the pyramid and also gave us the bible but only as a joke
33:47oh they refer they refer to the missing malaysian airliner as our bad
33:58oh this is kind of sad in the universe we're considered a shithole planet
34:10classic they have over 27 different genders five fewer than at nyu
34:21they don't say take me to your leader they say wait this is your leader
34:32and also they want to know why the michael movie left out all the stuff about kids
34:37all right that's uh all right i want to talk about the met gala i have never talked what
34:49i thought you just were i know uh the outfits are pretty much yeah the aliens might have
34:56i've never you wanted proof there's your proof i never talked about because i know i guess i never
35:01really understood it uh there was a lot of controversy about it this year so i'm reading
35:05about it it's actually a charity you know the the show some of the people i mean this happens
35:10every year the celebrities show up and they're wearing just the most outrageous things i just
35:14thought oh they're celebrities they're fucking nuts that's what they do they just they're weirdos and
35:19they're attention whores and they just wear weird shit i've seen them do it in other places no this
35:24is actually a charity yes for the costume institute at the metropolitan museum of okay i didn't i never
35:30got like fashion and arts all right like so poor people this year there's a lot of
35:35controversy because it was apparently sponsored by jeff bezos uh spent 10 million dollars for it
35:41and they got very upset about this the people i call the uh liberals in theory uh and some people
35:50said
35:50they weren't going to go turned out just about everybody went and i guess the question i'm asking
35:55is for the party that's always talking about money and have kind of made making money evil now i do
36:02believe that there should be an upper number that we tax on that we you can't have more money than
36:07you know some of these people have over 500 billion dollars that's crazy but i am the farthest thing
36:12from a socialist i don't i think making money is good wanting to be rich is good that's what
36:18part of what makes america america we conform to human nature which is greedy
36:23but you can't have it both ways i mean beyonce was there she's wearing
36:28a fifth she's wearing a 50 million dollar necklace and the queen of kalari diamond
36:34wow i don't even know her and i say you go girl
36:38look i know her mother but beyonce call me i think i need to help her i need to help
36:45her
36:45okay okay i need to help her no but no she's a fabulous but don't you think she might have
36:51rented that shit bill you know she leased it so that she can brand it i know they give it
36:56to her
36:56to wear and i say good i'm glad everybody should be able to do what they want in america and
37:01be as
37:02rich as they were not quite as rich as they want i take that back don't steal my money though
37:06don't steal the taxpayers money that i'm sick of that shit right now
37:16well i was saying this the other week you know the problem is that when bernie sanders says
37:21millionaires and billionaires it's so outdated millionaires you know the one out of six
37:27households in america are millionaires one out of six so when you say millionaires and you lump
37:33them in this is what i was complaining about please don't say don't lower my property
37:36value not right now bernie i'm a little but you know claiming you don't pay i pay a shit ton
37:45of
37:45taxes me too it's it's the super rich who don't pay taxes in fact i call my husband sam he's
37:52a paper
37:52man i pay him and by the way glad is miss california just gave me four dollars back i came
37:58on your show
37:58twice last year and i owe them money bill what the hell's wrong with you you're bringing me out here
38:04to pay your taxes that's not okay come on now no i'm you know bill you're right and you'll love
38:12this
38:12you know you know the i could call the democratic capitalist i said because i own my house i mean
38:17i grew up in poverty i i've earned my money i've earned the right i love my nieces and nephews
38:24i've given
38:24everything i can i want to enjoy the rest of my life right okay but i also here's here's where
38:34here's where bernie makes here's bernie's point bernie believes that we live in two americas
38:38two americas and it's it's wrong that one set of americans can no longer afford the american dream
38:44one set of americans keep you know working harder and having to pay more and the other set seem like
38:50the rules are working for them so that's bernie's point he may not be talking in 21st century language
38:55he's got to update it because millionaires it's like saying here's a dime for the phone okay it's
39:00a quarter now and we won't have those anymore he's also i think he's just misrepresenting the truth so
39:06he's got to stop doing that as well so i mean we just go from statistics like where does federal
39:11revenue
39:11come from you say that they're not paying their fair share well the top one percent pays 40 percent of
39:15federal revenue the bottom 50 percent pays three percent of federal revenue is that fair is that
39:21proportion fair this is a subjective question we actually believe in our country and we have for
39:27a long time but there should be a progressive tax system it's one of the most progressive if not the
39:30most in the world when you conclude state and local so the rich not even it's not even that everybody
39:36plays their they're like 20 percent no the rich pay a higher percentage in addition to so the the idea
39:43that they're just not paying taxes is factually incorrect just by the numbers so the question is
39:49then like what what is fair how are we defining it or is it just a populist rallying cry to
39:55build on
39:56resentment that people have but would you say there should be a upper limit in other words if your
40:01personal wealth is worth two percent of gross national product shouldn't we have to cap something
40:08on the upper limit no a trillion dollars why why where do they do it is that much that a
40:15checking
40:15account that money's not a checking account first of all they're using that to buy i mean if we're
40:18talking about elon because i think that's the only person who comes close to well some of them like
40:22how many companies and amazing things has he started how many people that's true employed how many
40:26investments has he made it's it's it's it's not like it's just sitting in a checking account
40:30the guy's working 24 hours a day like you know and also that top one percent is a very fluid
40:36group of
40:36people too it's not the same people it's someone it's usually made up of new people who like sold
40:41their business they worked forever to build and finally sold it that year they get lumped into the
40:45one percent and then they're out the next and wealthy americans can info accountants that can find
40:49those loopholes they understand how to get tax breaks when they want to move their companies into
40:53a state and say hey if you you know make sure i don't have to pay property taxes for the
40:57next 20 years look
40:58the system is not working that's why so many americans are right now disgruntled that's why
41:03donald trump is underwater even on his strongest attributes that's why we can't stop your tax
41:09increases ugly piece of shit seriously you're gonna close rural hospitals you're gonna take people
41:15off of medicare we put 50 billion dollars into rural hospitals literally put it into hospitals
41:19and meanwhile we can't afford health care for average americans working 65 000 a year
41:25you can afford it a lot less if you're paying more taxes all right two thousand dollars more
41:29you know america the american dream should be affordable for all people that's my position
41:34i know and i still like you
41:36i still like you the facts that health care is expensive because obamacare made it expensive
41:41they created a market that is that is completely unviable
41:44wow you can i i love that you believe narratives folks i love it but it's not you got it
41:49you got to
41:49look at the facts and health care policy what actually happens in insurance markets
41:53well they have health care but it is true that very often they can't use it
41:58because the the now part of that is because the republicans tried every way they could to
42:02rat fuck obamacare after they didn't even know the democrats passed it and said well we'll read
42:07it afterwards i mean they didn't know it was in it either okay i mean they took out some of
42:11the
42:11i mean it was it was the only thing that got changed was zeroing out the the tax penalty
42:15you don't have a replacement for us so until you have a replacement we should keep what is working
42:20that keep america healthy and safe obviously not working well he complains about it
42:26oh yeah they're complaining all over the country and it's not just health insurance
42:31people are worried about their property insurance they're worried about being able to pay for flood
42:36insurance all of the things well then why do you guys want to raise their taxes
42:39we don't want to raise their taxes every democrat voted against our primary bill that we all got
42:45elected because you made tax cuts permanent yes we made tax cuts permanent at the same time you have
42:49wars after wars after wars and we cannot pay for it we're about to raise the defense budget to 1
42:54.5
42:55trillion dollars while we bring in new ornament and new ammunition and new munitions
42:59okay let's do let's do that let's change the subject wait wait wait i want to change the subject
43:06to this subject because i mean depending on budget they're asking for a 600 billion dollar increase
43:13that is that is big in an age when we are finding out in the from the iran from the
43:19award the ukrainian
43:21war yeah it's drones baby and drones are cheap so what are we spending like i guess so it's it's
43:29not
43:29as crazy as it sounds one but nobody we're waking up to the fact nobody thought that they could fight
43:35russia to a standstill i didn't i thought they were going to lose that war and they did it's that
43:40is the
43:41nature of warfare the gatling gun comes along machine guns come along planes tanks and the the offense
43:47versus defense changes and wars we are at that moment now wars are completely being changed by
43:53drones and it seems like we are financing the last war as well as fighting the last one i know
43:58we're
43:59not um but to make you feel better we absolutely are investing a lot into drones drones of all types
44:06from from space down to the bottom of the ocean um space is the new new frontier um you know
44:13china
44:13has known this for a while that space is a warfare domain we have refused to believe it for a
44:18long
44:18time and there's finally investments in that space and so a lot of this money is golden dome
44:23a lot of this which you know back in reagan's days and star wars like the technology was not there
44:28but
44:28now it is but you've got to invest in it and put it up there um one of the reasons
44:32i've been in la
44:33all week is visiting all these space companies that are out here because la has one of the just has
44:37the ecosystem of labor that works in the space industry it's it's flourishing people like companies
44:43like spacex have obviously pioneered that so a lot of investment in that a lot of investment in paying
44:48it forward to save the taxpayer money in the long run so instead of the stupid way that we often
44:53have
44:53bought weapons or new emissions we pay more and more and more later because we tell we tell companies
44:58like hey we might buy some later right and so what does that do it raises the cost of production
45:02every time so no put a final like put an actual amount seven years out so a lot of it
45:06is paying
45:07it forward and putting that investment in now um ai is another big one that you have to invest in
45:12uh shipbuilding industry as well so that's that's the reason for that massive increase and it's not
45:18obvious that it would be to continue to be that but bill if the problem is it's like a layer
45:22cake
45:23while you put on the bottom layer and then we've got a top layer and another layer well this is
45:27the
45:27bottom layer is going to stay the same which is about six seven hundred billion dollars and then
45:32we add another two hundred i used to work on capitol hill and the defense budget you know it's like
45:38going to a jewelry store and you're like i like that one i like that one i like that one
45:41we need to have
45:42a new strategic framing for 21st century wars and you're absolutely right we can learn a lot from
45:47ukraine but we shouldn't keep layering and layering and layering as if the taxpayers can afford this
45:52all right we have to close it there thank you for all your spirited discussion time for new rules
45:59everybody
46:05all right
46:08uh new rule we should all support the police but it does have its limits like for this officer who
46:13was convicted of stripping naked and masturbating in a park and i would just like to say to him
46:20you keep your hands where we can see them
46:29i would say you're a disgrace to the uniform but i see you've sidestepped that issue already
46:37uh neural baroness the longest verifiably measured wild snake in the world
46:42better not be lying when it claims to be 23 feet 8 inches long
46:54because if we go on a date and it turns out baroness is really 23 feet 4 inches i'm gonna
47:00be pissed
47:07i said it in my profile no games no liars
47:13new rule the next time a toddler gets stuck inside one of those arcade claw machines
47:19the parents have to buy a couple rolls of quarters and try to win them back
47:29i don't pay thousands of tax dollars to have fire and rescue pull your kid out of a box
47:34i pay thousands in tax dollars to have fire and rescue pull lost dumbasses off the sides of mountains
47:43new rules since the met ball and the kentucky derby happened in the same week
47:48next year they have to swap outfits
47:57the stupid ridiculous hats that people wear to the derby
48:00i want to see those on kim kardashian bad bunny and doja cat
48:07and at the derby the rednecks who love the animal abuse that is horse racing must come dressed like this
48:22new rule the winner of the european seagull screeching championship
48:28must be referred to as the loser
48:36because anyone can screech like that there's a homeless guy on hollywood boulevard who does it all the time
48:49you want to prove you can act like a seagull
48:52steal a french fry out of my hand while i'm eating it
49:00and finally new rule luigi mangioni cole thomas allen tyler robinson and the ghost of thomas crooks
49:08must form a boy band called new kids on the glock
49:20just to just to drive home the point these are not your father's political assassins
49:27things have changed for one thing today's assassins have popular support with the kids
49:32up to 40 percent of america's young adults say violence is okay to achieve a political goal
49:39wow seems like five minutes ago when one of the big causes of the left was gun control but now
49:45guns are
49:45the answer i guess because luigi is a fucking rock star he's the og hot assassin the young assassins
49:54coming up even name check him in their manifestos when this guy was arrested for burning down a giant
50:00warehouse he said it was like when luigi popped that motherfucker
50:06before this college student threw a molotov cocktail at sam altman's mansion he talked about
50:12luigi-ing some tech ceos and the asshole currently on trial for allegedly starting the big fire out here
50:20last year was luigi's biggest fanboy good to see the kids have role models huh
50:32another way this new breed of content creator assassins is different they have jokes
50:40cole allen called himself a friendly federal assassin
50:44and told his friends he was going to dc for a personal emergency wink wink
50:48his man his manifesto opens with hello everybody it sounded like that form letter i get every
50:55christmas telling me how everyone is doing in a family i don't care about
51:07tyler robinson wrote little jokes on the bullets he fired at charlie kirk things like
51:13if you're reading this you're gay lol i mean john wilkes booth was an asshole but at least when he
51:20did
51:20the deed he said something serious sick semper tyrannis not i fucked your mom
51:32cole allen took selfies before enacting his diabolically clever plan of running fast
51:44you know cole why do i think this is more about you than the cause you're running through the metal
51:51detector but maybe you're really chasing clout allen wrote that he was consumed by rage thinking
51:57about everything this administration has done yeah join the club donald trump is infuriating
52:05i know this personally that's why whenever i'm around him i'm so nervous i need a drink right away
52:18if you're doing that much rage thinking about trump you're not really mad at him
52:23you're mad at your life this is about being 31 and still living with your mom in torrance
52:29life was supposed to come out better this guy went to cal tech for christ's sake
52:34he dreamed of being a video game designer but really was a substitute teacher
52:39do you think if he'd ever sold actually a video game and got rich he'd be doing this
52:46look i feel for that generation you guys grew up with the iphone which fucks people up and now ai
52:52no wonder you're always wearing a hoodie in the fetal position
52:59plus as long as you can remember the president has either been dead or this guy
53:09so
53:13sympathy for you yes but also it's always been thus sadly your parents and teachers didn't prepare you
53:21for this so you have no idea how hard or easy you have it but because you're so entitled you
53:26just
53:26assume you have it tougher than anybody ever did you don't in fact your generation lives an
53:32historically easy life you can get sushi or a weighted blanket delivered in hours you can do
53:38you can do your banking sitting on the toilet
53:43they sell weed in a store now
53:53in a financial pinch you can sell pictures of your feet
53:59your biggest hardship is when the wi-fi drops and you have to briefly experience the 20th century
54:06and yet you've convinced yourselves that your current level of discomfort justifies
54:11revolutionary violence cole allen's life only sucked by his own unreasonable standards
54:18he wasn't on welfare he was on linkedin
54:27for his assassination attempt he stayed at the hilton
54:32if your assassination comes with hilton honors rewards points
54:44gen z lives are not that bad most of our lives here in america are not how we live right
54:51now
54:52in the year we're actually living in in the country we're actually living in doesn't warrant condoning
54:58political violence i can see it if you live under a truly oppressive regime communism fascism
55:05catholicism
55:09but that's not where we are now you're not storming the beaches at normandy you're not standing in
55:14bread lines you know just like our no kings we had here the protests they also had them in iran
55:22but over there the protesters got shot in the street and yes ice did that too twice the iranian
55:29thugs did it 30 000 times have some perspective get real
55:40stop blaming america for all your fuck-ups what this is really about for today's young assassins
55:47is when life lets you down and doesn't properly reward you for being the awesome person you're
55:53sure you are there's one big save left convince yourself you were meant for a cause bigger than
56:00yourself and for cole thomas allen it was i'm fighting hitler and i get why that's a tempting
56:06thing to cosplay if trump is hitler then you're tom cruise in valkyrie nobody trying to take him out
56:33but trump isn't hitler and you're not tom cruise and you don't really live on the desert moon of an
56:40evil
56:40umpire you live in torrance which i understand is not exactly la or london but please you're not in haiti
56:47or afghanistan you're at coachella
56:57life doesn't really suck so bad you would just rather be a martyr than nobody the whole tone of
57:05cole allen's manifesto was sorry guys but america needs me a hero has risen you're not a hero you're
57:13just the guy who runs out into the field during a baseball game to get attention and in 10 seconds
57:18gets tackled by security except in your case no that's exactly your case
57:24all right that's our show i want to thank representative dan penchant on a brazil and
57:29senator john frederman club random every monday on youtube or listen wherever you get your podcast
57:34now go watch overtime on youtube thank you very much ladies and gentlemen okay
57:40thank you very much
58:10thank you very much
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