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Evil Lives Here - Season 19 - Episode 02: I Am Not My Father
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00:03when you asked me to tell my story I really didn't want to I wanted to keep
00:11the memory in the past and just let it leave it alone and let it die and for a
00:18long time I've been scared that my what my father was was like in my blood I
00:27share his name but I have tried my whole life not to be like him
00:48I try to fight myself inside trying to keep from doing it and I don't want to
00:57I didn't want to do what I did rape murder or anything I didn't want nothing else to happen
01:02you knew you were capable of doing it again
01:08yeah he had it in him he had the instincts to kill I feel pain for the people that he
01:15hurt
01:15because I know what they went through to hear his voice to see him and everything
01:21just makes me more mad it makes me more angry he knew the whole time what he was doing he
01:30was
01:31torturing people he was torturing us he was torturing my family when we were kids he knew what he was
01:36doing I wish I could tell him to his face you were a coward the whole time in your whole
01:41life you picked
01:42on the weak if he really wanted to stop doing what he was doing there was plenty of help out
01:50there but
01:51he didn't want that help he wanted to continue killing
01:57he's what he knew how to do
02:08he was torturing me
02:09he's what he knew how to do
02:39I've seen this picture before.
02:42This is the picture of a normal family.
02:51My uncles, my grandfather, my aunts.
02:55This is my father right here.
02:59I see my future tormentor.
03:05The future abuser of my mother and my brother and my sister.
03:10I see the future killer.
03:14And you wonder, you know, how can a person or a family that did look this normal create such a
03:24monster?
03:25It makes me wonder, where did it all start from?
03:32When in his life did he become the monster that he was?
03:59My mom and dad met in a bar in Mexico.
04:02My mom had two kids, a boy and a girl.
04:07So he started bringing things for the kids to learn that, you know, he was going to, you know, basically
04:12help her change her life.
04:14You know, they could come live in the States and he was going to adopt them.
04:19I mean, the story that he told her was anybody would fall for it, you know.
04:23Anybody would want that to change their life and to improve their life and to go to the United States
04:28and become, you know, a citizen and live the good life.
04:35But that's not what it was.
04:56There was a log cabin and it was really small.
05:01And we called it compound because nobody else lived there, just us.
05:07There was nothing around, no kids, no nothing, no nobody around.
05:11There's just my grandfather and my grandmother.
05:14And that was it.
05:17We lived miles away from even the closest person.
05:21We were isolated from everything.
05:25He had us trapped there.
05:41My father never had loving words, never said, I love you.
05:46He never tucked you in.
05:49And we were always, like, walking on eggshells when he's around.
05:54One day my brother was sitting at the table and he was full and he didn't want to eat no
06:00more.
06:02And my dad just went around and just backhanded him and hit him.
06:08I remember feeling fear, like frozen fear, you know, because I didn't want to be next.
06:18And my brother was crying, so my mom went over to protect him.
06:22And he hit her, too.
06:26Because she was babying him.
06:27She said, stop babying him.
06:29They got to learn to grow up to be a man.
06:32At that time, I felt like this was the normal family.
06:37That, you know, the father was the evil person and the mother was the loving, nurturing, caring person.
06:46I had to grow up fast.
06:49And if I didn't grow up fast, I wouldn't have survived.
07:03I knew there was something wrong with my surroundings.
07:10My cousins would come over and visit my grandparents.
07:16And they were happy.
07:19They were not scared.
07:23Their dads were playful and everything.
07:26And ours was a caged animal.
07:29They would have good clothes.
07:32We walked around barefooted.
07:34It was totally different from what we've been seeing.
07:39I've never had a father tuck me in and say he loves me or cares about me, you know.
07:46And to see fathers walking with their kids, holding their hands or anything like that.
07:50And I've never seen that.
08:02The abuse with my father started slowly and it escalated.
08:11It still comes to mind.
08:15It still, sometimes you still hear it in your mind when your mom is like, like, blood curdling, screaming sometimes.
08:23Get away from me.
08:25Let me go.
08:27And you're sleeping at night and she screams and she's, and she's yelling, no, don't.
08:39I don't know what exactly he's doing to hurt her, but I hear her crying.
08:44I hear her in pain.
08:45And we were scared.
08:49And we were over there crying, you know, but crying quietly so he won't hear us.
08:57Then you see a mom with a busted lip.
09:04Or a bruised eye.
09:09Or a scratch on her neck.
09:14It always sticks with you.
09:16You always, you always remember it every once in a while.
09:20You always felt the helplessness of it.
09:26It's really hard to see your mother go through that.
09:29It's upsetting and it's, and it's painful and it's angering.
09:33Because you don't have the power to stop it.
09:46Growing up, I did not know what he did for a living.
09:49I did not have the slightest clue as to what he did.
09:55Other times, my father would take these trips and he'd be gone for like a week or so.
10:02As long as he wasn't there, we, we, we were happy he'd go.
10:07We hope he never came back.
10:11I think he was out there killing and raping and doing all this stuff when he was out on these
10:17trips.
10:20And he hadn't got caught for it.
10:24I don't think that, you know, he became a, he became a killer from one instant to the next.
10:30I think he's been always that.
10:34And most serial killers are like that.
10:38They don't become a killer just, just by the snap of a finger.
10:43They've progressed into it.
10:45My thoughts that, you know, my dad was using Mexico as a hunting ground until he found my mother.
10:55I think he would go back across the border and that was his killing ground.
11:11We know that the devil's going to walk through the door.
11:15When he returned, that's when all the tension would come back.
11:20We try to walk around him, try to stay away from him.
11:24Try not to be seen by him.
11:28There's one incident I remember that we were all sitting on the sofa.
11:32We're trying to be quiet and everything.
11:34And then my dad calls my older sister over.
11:42But my mom tells my sister to stay where she's at and she goes to see what he wants.
11:47And she's like, no, Dan, no.
11:50And he, and then he starts hitting her.
11:52And he, he drags her by her hair to her closet, throws her in the closet, shuts the door and
11:58puts the, the, the chair in front of it so she won't be able to get out.
12:05My mom was banging on the door and said, please, Danny, don't do it.
12:08Please, Danny, Danny, don't.
12:09And we were crying and we were, and everything.
12:12And he, he grabs my sister.
12:26I was young.
12:27I didn't know what he was doing to her.
12:30You know, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know he was, I know he was hurting her, but I didn't
12:34know that he was doing something like that to her until I was, until I got older.
12:41At that age, I didn't know what rape or sexual contact or anything was.
12:47I, I didn't, I just know that he was hurting her.
12:50And there's nothing I can do about it.
12:56You're helpless.
12:58You can't fight the devil.
13:03We're not talking about somebody who's a father.
13:05We're not talking about somebody who's nurturing, caring, and loving.
13:08We're talking about a, a, a demon.
13:14We knew that we were living with a very evil person.
13:35We had never gone before, but one day we all got in the car and went to the store.
13:45And my mom, just trying to find help or somewhere, she's begging people, help me, help me, please.
13:52You know what I'm saying?
13:53And it's just like, nobody cared, nobody listened.
13:57And she's begging and crying.
13:59My dad seen her.
14:04He grabs her and he pulls her and he takes her to the car and we're crying too.
14:09And he tells us, get the in the car.
14:12That's when he pulls the gun on, puts it in her head.
14:18I never know he had a gun.
14:22He says, I'll kill you before you leave.
14:25I thought he was going to kill her.
14:27I thought he was going to, you know, end her life right there.
14:32That was the last time we ever went out with him.
14:35Ever.
14:41I don't know how she survived all this, what happened to her.
14:48Because that was a lot.
14:49That was more than anybody can handle in their life.
14:53You know.
14:55There's no doubt in my mind that he was going to kill her one of these days.
15:00And I knew this, it was going to happen.
15:02It was going to happen soon.
15:11My mom was almost like a timid mouse because of all the abuse that she got.
15:17She's doing everything that he wants her to do so he would be happy.
15:20But in reality, she was looking for a way out.
15:26One Sunday morning, my dad went with my grandparents to church.
15:33And my mom, she uses the phone.
15:36And she comes back and she's throwing stuff in a bag.
15:42And there was a car waiting at the end of the road.
15:49I had no idea what was happening.
15:53She got my two younger brothers and my older brother and my older sister.
15:58And she says that me and my other brother can't come.
16:04You have to be very, very strong.
16:08She doesn't have enough money, too.
16:11Because she has to get a bus to go to Mexico.
16:16I think I was around seven.
16:18My brother was around six.
16:21She said, I will come back for you.
16:25And I told her, Mom, I know, I want to go.
16:28He said, I will be back.
16:29I can't take you with me.
16:30I will be back.
16:31I said, Mom, no, no, don't leave me, you know.
16:38But, see, I, what do you say, I know she had to go.
16:45I know she had to leave because if she didn't go, she was going to die.
16:51I understand that.
16:54I didn't understand it as a kid.
16:58And she got in the car and it drove off.
17:03I felt abandoned.
17:05I felt like she, she left us here with this monster here that, you know, that, that God knows what's
17:15going to happen to us when he gets back.
17:29He came home and he asked us, where's your mom at?
17:37And I was scared.
17:39I said, I don't know where she's at.
17:40I don't know.
17:42He says, where the f*** your mom at?
17:44I said, I don't know.
17:45I don't know where she's at.
17:46So he starts hitting me.
17:47Bam.
17:48Bam.
17:49And I black out.
17:56And then I wake up.
17:57I don't know where I'm at at the beginning.
18:01I'm in the back of the trunk of the, the, of the car and the trunk is open and I
18:07can hear like a shovel.
18:12Like somebody digging and I see him digging a hole.
18:16He thought he killed me and he was going to bury me that day.
18:21And I said, dad.
18:23And he looks at me and, and it's just like, oh, he's alive.
18:30And he just turns around and he just stares at me like, like he's in shock.
18:36Where the f*** your mom at?
18:39Where did she go?
18:40Who took her?
18:42And I'm telling him, I don't know.
18:46And he just gets in his car and he leaves.
18:49He takes off.
18:50I don't know where he goes.
18:54His intention was to bury me that day.
18:56What stopped him at that moment from doing it?
18:59I don't know.
19:02I, I don't know.
19:05I don't know what came into him.
19:07Did I shock him into reality when I, when I, when I woke up?
19:13I run that scenario in my head millions of times.
19:17Millions of times.
19:18And I asked myself that same question.
19:20Why did he let me live?
19:23I don't know if it was an act of God.
19:25I don't know what stopped him from doing it.
19:31Because I know that was my grave.
19:33I know that was my grave.
19:47After my mom left, my dad was barely at home.
19:51We barely seen him.
19:53I always thought that he was out there looking for my mom.
19:56That's what I always thought.
19:58He was out there searching everywhere for her.
20:00And that, and I was praying that he never found her.
20:06He'd leave us locked in the house for hours at a time.
20:11I mean, to, to the time that he came back at night.
20:16Food and everything was basically what two little kids can scrunch up cereal.
20:22Cereal, chips, and we are, we're locked inside the house and we heard a knock on the window.
20:40And we go and we look at the window and there's my mom.
20:48And she's scared.
20:49I know she's scared because she's looking around and, like, if she's looking to see if he's there, but he's
20:54not there.
20:57So she cut a hole through the screen and lifted up the window and pulled us out.
21:07And she hugged us.
21:09Even though it was an amazing moment, an amazing time that, that my mom came and everything, but there was
21:16always the fear of him coming back.
21:19There was always the fear of him catching us.
21:21They said, let's go, let's go.
21:23And so she hurried up and she, we walked down the road and there was a, a, a car waiting
21:29for us.
21:30My mom took her life in her own hand when she came back for us.
21:34She sacrificed her life to come and get us.
21:51Next thing you know, my dad comes out of nowhere.
21:56I don't know where he came from.
21:58He might have been waiting at the border or something.
22:01And my mom was carrying my brother and she had me by the hand and we ran across that border.
22:07I just remember running and seeing different colored uniforms and people just speaking Spanish.
22:16Then my dad yelling and behind us and everything, trying to, trying to stop us.
22:22At the border, there's like a police, you know, the Mexican police and everything.
22:26And my mom's asking them for help.
22:30He was going to kill her.
22:31I know he was going to kill my mom.
22:33There was somebody actually that, that came and said, no, you're not going to do that.
22:38The Mexican police officers were not going to give us up.
22:42I don't give a damn what he said.
22:45They were not going to give us up to him.
22:47And they got on his ass that day.
22:54When we crossed that border into Mexico, that's when that sigh of relief, we're free.
23:01And he said, I'm going to come back for you.
23:04I'm going to get you.
23:13I was happy in Mexico whenever we got away from him.
23:17We were kids again.
23:19We were climbing trees.
23:20We were playing with other kids.
23:22We were swimming.
23:23We were running down the street.
23:26We, as long as he was not there doing what he did to our family, I didn't care.
23:36You know, we didn't have that much, but we were finally at peace.
23:43Years later, one day my mom came and told us that we're going back to the United States.
23:53My father was in prison.
23:56That means he couldn't come after us.
23:59And I didn't bother to ask her why.
24:02I didn't care.
24:06To the people that want to know why didn't I ask questions as to what he was,
24:12because I didn't care.
24:14I don't, I didn't want to know what he was.
24:16I didn't know, I didn't, I didn't care if he was alive, dead, or whatever.
24:21I just knew that he wasn't coming after us.
24:23Other than that, I didn't care about, I didn't care about him.
24:28I wanted him completely erased from my mind and my memory.
24:33A few years later, we learned that he was a killer, a murderer.
24:41It, it hit, it didn't hit me as a shock.
24:44It was nothing shocking to me, because I could, I, as a young kid, I already knew that it was
24:50in him.
24:51As a young kid, I knew that he was capable of doing it.
25:18I thought I had, I had gotten rid of him completely.
25:26Then, one day, my grandmother and my grandfather wanted to pick us up and take us to Texas to see
25:33my dad in prison.
25:34My dad wanted to see us.
25:38I didn't want to go.
25:40I told my mom that I didn't want to go.
25:41But my younger brothers that didn't remember that way he was, wanted to go and see him.
25:47So, I went to keep an eye on them.
25:53We went over there, and he was in, in his prison, White, and he tried to act like he was
26:03some badass or something.
26:06You know, like he was like, like some, some sort of superhero in prison and everything, trying to, oh, I'm,
26:13I'm Mr. Johnny Badass.
26:15But in reality, you know, I seen him for the weak person that he was.
26:25And I didn't get near him.
26:27I stayed as far away from him as I could.
26:29He would try to talk to me, and I was like, you know, I'm, I'm all right.
26:34I don't need to talk to you.
26:36No, you're not cool for what you did.
26:37You're a piece of for what you did.
26:43When I looked into his eyes, I didn't see a soul in him.
26:48Remorse.
26:50I seen the demon that he was.
26:52After that visit, I knew I was never going to go see him again.
26:56The pain, the hurt, and the things that he has done to me, my brothers, my sisters, my mother, I
27:05think he was the epitome of evil.
27:16Oh.
27:23Oh.
27:33This is, you know, 1984.
27:36before you see the killer in his eyes.
27:43He has no remorse or anything.
27:50This is the guy that tormented me and my family
27:54when we were younger.
27:59This is my first time ever seeing this picture of him.
28:06It was not long after we escaped him that this photo was taken.
28:12But I never knew there was pictures of him in prison.
28:19Or mug shots because I never looked him up.
28:26So when this picture was taken, he was convicted and sentenced
28:31to 25 years in prison for the murder of Pam Hudgens.
28:38He served eight years.
28:40Wow.
28:42That's not even justice.
28:47There's no justice.
28:52I feel like they should have just gave him the chair then.
29:21I don't know this person.
29:24This is Inez Deaton.
29:26She was killed by your father in 1979 with an ice pick.
29:32This is the first time I ever seen this photo.
29:34I didn't know he killed her.
29:37I'm sorry that he killed her.
29:38I have no words to express, you know.
29:44Yeah.
29:45Wow.
29:47You're just a f***ing animal.
29:49It's a...
29:51An evil person.
30:09The reason that we're meeting with you is regarding the murder of Inez Deaton.
30:21Inez was murdered in 1979.
30:24Are you familiar with that event?
30:28Yes, sir.
30:29Okay.
30:29What I'd like for you to do is to tell me everything that you recall about this event.
30:36Okay?
30:37Yes, sir.
30:38I was sitting in the house watching TV in the living room and a tall blonde haired woman come through
30:47the door.
30:48I immediately grabbed her and forced her down to the ground.
30:54I can remember strangling her and using a knife because I could see blood on the side of her neck.
31:03And took her out and dumped her body.
31:07And then I left and went back to the house.
31:11What prompted you to attack her?
31:16I honestly, I don't know.
31:18I don't know what was running through my mind at that particular time.
31:25Oh, bro.
31:28Wow.
31:33It should have easily happened to us when he lived with us.
31:41Wow.
31:44The voice I remembered was cruel and commanding, like a sick drill sergeant, you know, commanding in your face, demanding.
31:58That's the kind of voice I remember.
32:00Not the timid person that he's trying to be right there.
32:08Was he doing that when he was with, when we were on the compound also?
32:16And then he like, oh, I don't recall, I probably did it.
32:19I mean, come on.
32:20Really?
32:21You remember raping a girl and killing her and stabbing her?
32:26You know exactly what you did.
32:28He meant to kill her.
32:32Just like he meant to kill a lot of other people.
32:34That he killed.
32:36His excuses, his downplaying, his little meekness doesn't, doesn't fool me.
32:41He just got caught.
32:45And like he said, he just immediately grabbed her.
32:49It just, he like just grabbed my sister and did what he did to her.
32:54When he molested my sister.
32:57That was me.
32:58He put in the trunk of a car.
33:01He put me in the trunk of a car.
33:03And he was going to bury me.
33:05That could have been us.
33:07I'm sorry that it was her.
33:10That could also have been us too.
33:12If my mom didn't come back for us.
33:15If my mom hadn't left, that could have been all of us.
33:19I'm just glad we got away from it before he could kill us.
33:29I tried to fight myself inside trying to keep from doing it.
33:36And I don't want to, I didn't want to do what I did.
33:42There was a lot more that he didn't confess to.
33:46I know there's a lot more.
33:48Because you just don't start killing people.
33:54I mean, he's a predator.
33:57There's no woman safe from him.
33:59He's a predator.
34:02He would have kept on doing it until he got killed by somebody.
34:08Or they caught him and they killed him.
34:12That's what predators do.
34:14That's what he was.
34:28Did you know Tracy?
34:30Yes, sir.
34:31My wife's sister-in-law.
34:33We were having an argument of some sort.
34:36I don't know.
34:36She started out of the room and I grabbed her and pushed her.
34:40And from what I can remember, she went down the bottom of the stairs.
34:45She was by herself.
34:46You know what I'm saying?
34:47She had the baby.
34:48Yeah.
34:48She was holding the baby.
34:50Was she saying anything?
34:51Was she moving?
34:53No, sir.
34:54How about the baby?
34:55No, sir.
34:57I went in the kitchen and opened one of the doors up and took the ice pick.
35:02I don't know if I struck her or I walked with the ice pick.
35:05I'm not real sure at the moment.
35:14It escalated again.
35:16Now it's murder and killing people with ice picks with the baby.
35:21I didn't know he killed a child.
35:23I didn't know he did that, but he's just a cold-blooded f***ing animal.
35:30But it just reminds me of my mom.
35:35Because whenever we were sitting in the house, we were supposed to be very quiet.
35:39No crying, no none of that.
35:45He had that wrath.
35:46I seen that wrath.
35:48I lived it.
35:49I got beat for it.
35:51I almost got buried for it.
36:09First victim that we're going to talk about is s***.
36:12Can you tell me what happened?
36:14I started sitting on my lap and hugging me.
36:16One thing led to another, and the next thing I know, I had sex with her at least one time.
36:26I touched her in different parts of her body.
36:28How old is s*** at the time of this incident?
36:34How old was s*** during this time, Danny?
36:56Uh, eight to nine years old.
37:00Okay, we're going to go to victim number five.
37:03Danny, how old was s***?
37:05Uh, six to seven years old.
37:08And how many encounters did you have with her?
37:12About four to five times.
37:14Did you have sex with her all the time?
37:16Yes, sir.
37:25One, six to seven.
37:28Devin, twelve.
37:31Wow.
37:36Wow.
37:40Wow.
37:41Wow.
37:41That is really sick.
37:49I have no words for this s***.
37:53I really don't.
37:55I have no words to say that.
38:01F***.
38:05Finding out everything that I know about him, and everything that he did, and everything.
38:14I wish him more pain and hell that he did deserves.
38:22Sometimes I wish I got my hands on him.
38:25But right now, where I am at.
38:33I would have taught him a very good lesson if it would hurt anybody again.
38:49I would have taught him a very good lesson if it would hurt anybody again.
39:03I would have taught him a very good lesson.
39:04That is the animal.
39:05That is him.
39:08That is him.
39:09I wish that he had suffered a lot more pain, and endured a lot more pain.
39:15Then what he did, did that lethal injection was too good for him.
39:22I feel no pity for him.
39:26I wish him all the pain in the world where he's burning in hell.
39:31I care nothing about him.
39:36I don't see him as a human being.
39:38I see him as a demon that destroyed lives, hurt people,
39:48killed people, killed a child.
39:51I mean, how low can you go if you kill the child?
39:55You know, how much further raped a child?
39:59How much more of it does you need to say, well, this is evil?
40:05That's evil.
40:07He's evil.
40:17You never really close the door on something that scarred you for the rest of your life.
40:21The scar is always going to be there for the rest of your life.
40:24I've tried to do it.
40:25I've tried to close it.
40:26I've tried, but it always comes back.
40:29It's never closure.
40:31You are always going to see it somewhere.
40:34Something is always going to trigger a memory.
40:37You're always going to have it.
40:41My mom wants to forget, and now that she is more going to church and everything,
40:49she said, just forgive and forget.
40:51She told me the same thing, just forgive and forget, and just let him die.
40:56And I don't feel like that.
40:59I feel like, you know, people need to know.
41:02People need to understand.
41:06I want people to realize that you've got to watch your children,
41:13and you've got to protect them from animals and monsters like that.
41:17Try to help them see the signs.
41:20Try to help them see that there are people out there that are dressed as sheep,
41:28but are really wolves.
41:30I don't want nobody in this world to go through what we went through.
41:36Do you see what I thought there werewire nhưateral giorno y'all?
41:37Do you feel like they don't have given me?
41:38Do you think they are mostBLE to know?
41:38Do they want people out there?
41:38Do that...
41:38Do that have people what we speak to each other than you all after?
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