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Crimewatch Roadshow - Season 23 - Episode 05: Murder in Croydon
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00:26Good morning and thanks for joining us
00:29today we are coming to you live from our studio in the centre of Cardiff.
00:33Today officers are looking for these four men in connection to a series of thefts from
00:39the archives of Bristol Museum. Hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of rare artefacts
00:44have been stolen. Do you know who took them? We have an emotional appeal from the family
00:50of Paul McGrath who was killed almost 30 years ago. I cannot believe that anybody to this
00:57day would try and cover for these people who have done such a brutal act, an act of murder
01:02on an innocent man.
01:05Can you help detectives find those responsible for his murder?
01:10And in a case that shocked the nation we have an exclusive interview with DCI Rebecca Woodsford
01:15who led the case into the murder of 15-year-old Eliane Andam. She was killed at a bus stop
01:21on her way to school in Croydon in 2023.
01:25I have never dealt with cases with that level of emotion. Almost Croydon stopped for 24,
01:3248 hours.
01:35Yeah, it really is a powerful watch that one isn't it?
01:37We're also talking to Caroline Wilgoose to hear why she is campaigning for bleed kits to
01:43be kept in all secondary schools after her 15-year-old son Harvey was fatally stabbed at school
01:48in Sheffield last year.
01:51Our phone lines are open and the team are here to take your calls. You can scan the QR code
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02:01us on 08000 468 999. You can text us 63399 to start your message with the word crime, leave
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02:18be on your screen down by the clock throughout the programme.
02:23Now our first appeal this morning is from Manchester. In 1997, Paul McGrath's lifeless body was discovered
02:30in a hallway by a passer-by. Can you help solve this decades-old mystery?
02:39Paul was generous and kind. He was much loved by everybody. Paul's death has impacted every
02:51facet of our lives. We are not the same family.
03:03Paul McGrath was 34. He worked as a joiner and lived in Denton, Greater Manchester.
03:11Paul and I were really close and he was very close to my sister and he was really close to
03:17his mum. We were a very close family.
03:21He loved all his nephews and nieces and me and my sister would laugh because he would pretend he didn't
03:28like the babies and then we'd go out of the room and we'd come back and he'd be holding them
03:32and talking to them and yeah, he was a great, great uncle to his nieces and nephews and he loved
03:40them all and they miss him dearly.
03:47Paul was very, very passionate about Manchester United and my dad was very passionate about Manchester City so like most
03:57Mancunian families we were a split family.
04:01He got a lot of pleasure from football.
04:08In the months before Paul died, he was in a new relationship, lovely girl and I think they had a
04:15fabulous future together. They were both really happy, they were very well suited and I think it would have led
04:21to something.
04:25On Sunday the 6th of April 1997, Paul McGrath spent the afternoon and evening with his girlfriend and friends visiting
04:34their local pubs.
04:43The last stop was the Dog and Partridge on Ashton Street.
04:47He met my father in there, they had a drink together. He was very sociable, he knew everybody in the
04:53pub. It would not be unusual for him on a Sunday night to have a few drinks in there.
05:00At approximately 11.30pm, Paul and his friends left the pub.
05:06He said goodbye to his girlfriend and one of his friends by the Crown Point, a retail park and Paul
05:13made his way home alone back to his address on Holland Street in Denton.
05:18Paul went home without his girlfriend because he got work early on Monday morning.
05:24His stuff was out ready for work next day, all his kit and his uniform.
05:28And he got into bed and went to sleep, just as he would normally do on any other Sunday.
05:40On the Monday morning, local workmen noticed the front door to Paul's property had been left ajar.
05:47And when they went to investigate, found Paul's lifeless body at the foot of his stairs.
06:00I was getting my kids ready for school and the phone went and it was my dad.
06:06And I said, oh my God, dad, what's happened? Because he wouldn't ring me normally on a Monday morning.
06:10And I thought something had happened to my mum.
06:13It never, ever occurred to me that anything would happen to my brother.
06:17You know, he was 34 years old.
06:20And then my dad had to break the news to me that my brother had been killed.
06:26I was hysterical.
06:28And I just remember pacing up and down, saying it can't be true, it can't be true, it can't be
06:33true.
06:34Because who would want to kill my brother?
06:36A decent, lovely person.
06:39There is no reason on this earth why anybody would want to kill him.
06:44Someone stabbed him 18 times in the hallway in his boxer shorts and left him there to die.
06:51Who would do that?
06:54They stabbed him 18 times.
06:56That's not an accident.
06:58That's a brutal murder.
07:02Almost 30 years on, Jillian and her family still haven't given up hope
07:08that one day they'll get the answers they're looking for and get justice for Paul.
07:14Paul's death has been absolutely overwhelming in every aspect of our lives.
07:23Nobody had a bad word to say about him. Nobody.
07:29I cannot believe that anybody to this day would try and cover for these people who have done such a
07:34brutal act,
07:36an act of murder on an innocent man.
07:39I can't tell you how much I miss Paul.
07:43There's not a birthday, a Christmas, a family event where we don't think about him,
07:51where we wish he was a part of it.
07:54And that pain can only be reduced by us getting justice.
08:02If I saw Paul today, I would just say to him, I'm so sorry.
08:06We're trying to find justice for you.
08:09And I'm so sorry that you've missed so much.
08:12And tell him how much I love him.
08:22I'm now with the head of GMP's Cold Case Review Unit, Martin Bottomley.
08:27Martin, although this happened many years ago,
08:31it still clearly has such a huge, it's left such a huge impact on the family, hasn't it?
08:36Absolutely, yes.
08:37I mean, it's almost 30 years.
08:39But Paul's missed out on a lifetime of Christmases, birthdays, family gatherings,
08:44and of course, Man City, Man United, Derby's where he'd have fun with his dad.
08:48Yeah.
08:49But as you can see, you know, the family's still grieving tremendously.
08:53They're never going to get over this unless we get justice for Paul.
08:57Yeah. Lasting impact there.
08:58So why are you reviewing this case? Why is it so important?
09:02Well, we never close a murder case like this.
09:04And of course, with advances in DNA technology,
09:07there's always this chance that there'll be a new lead,
09:09a new investigative strand we can follow.
09:11So people who think they've got away with murder 30 years ago
09:15can very well expect a knock on the door
09:17and was there to hopefully bring justice for Paul.
09:20Yeah, that's how we can help do that.
09:22Can you just recap the events then, what happened that night?
09:25Yes, it was Sunday the 6th of April, 1997.
09:29Paul had a new girlfriend.
09:31He went out with his girlfriend and a few other friends on Sunday afternoon.
09:35He called at a few pubs at the Stanford pub, a couple of others,
09:39and then ended up at the Dog and Partridge.
09:41By about half 11, closing time, the group split up
09:45and Paul went home alone to get ready for work in the morning.
09:49So then what do we know about what happened once Paul had got home that evening?
09:54Yeah, so he got home and he got ready for work, got his work clothes ready,
09:58and then went to bed.
10:00And about 1am in the morning, neighbours heard some banging,
10:04so they looked out of their window and saw two men at Paul's door talking to him.
10:09Now, we don't exactly know what happened subsequently then,
10:13but 7.30am the next morning, a building firm opposite noticed Paul's door was ajar.
10:20So they went over to investigate and saw Paul in the doorway.
10:24He'd been stabbed 18 times and he was there in his boxer shorts,
10:28indicating that they'd roused him from his bed.
10:32Incredibly brutal attack there.
10:34But at this time, do you have any idea of a potential motive?
10:38Well, Paul was really well-liked.
10:39He'd never been in trouble with anybody,
10:41but we do think he knew someone who was in dispute with a couple of people,
10:46so it's possible that men came round to his house trying to get information out of Paul
10:50and then decided to kill him for whatever reason.
10:54It's worth saying, as part of this investigation, it's been many years,
10:57people have already been arrested as part of the investigation.
11:01Yes, two people were arrested around about the time Paul was murdered
11:05and went on trial but were found not guilty.
11:08So this case still remains wide open.
11:11We need to get justice.
11:13And if anyone needs any further reason to come forward,
11:16there is actually a substantial financial reward for this.
11:22Absolutely.
11:22The GMP are offering a £50,000 reward for information
11:25which leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible.
11:28And we need to get that information.
11:31Loyalties have changed over time.
11:33Someone should come forward, examine the conscience and make that call.
11:37Yeah, do the right thing.
11:38Martin, thank you for joining us and hopefully we can get answers for Paul's family.
11:43Do get in touch if you can help with this case.
11:47Well, now I'm with DI Jason Chijit, who is from Avon and Somerset Police,
11:52who needs your help after a theft at a popular museum in Bristol.
11:56Jason, thanks for coming in to tell us about this,
11:58because this is quite a haul they got here.
12:00So tell us what we know, what happened.
12:02Hi, Steph.
12:03We know that in September of 2025,
12:06the same location in the Cumberland Basin area of Bristol was Burgord.
12:10The first offence took place between the 15th and 17th of September
12:14and the second on the 25th during the early hours.
12:17We know that on both occasions,
12:18the stepladder was used to access the external fire exit
12:22and a door was forced, which gave access inside to the location
12:26where all of these items were stored.
12:27Yeah. So this is the museum getting broken into twice
12:31and then the people doing it,
12:32heading off on foot with rucksacks and stuff stuffed in their pockets.
12:35And we can have a look at the types of things they store
12:38because we're talking hundreds of artefacts here.
12:41We are 600 plus, really brazen,
12:43taken away in pockets and rucksacks afterwards.
12:46As you can see, it's really unique jewellery,
12:49but it also included medals, coins, carvings from ivory,
12:55lots and lots of different pieces
12:56from the British Empire Commonwealth collection.
12:59Yeah, and very valuable because they're one-off pieces, aren't they?
13:03They are very, very valuable.
13:05It's very difficult to put a price tag on some of these items
13:07because provenance from the pre-war Commonwealth era
13:11is really difficult to put a price tag on.
13:13Yeah, kind of late 18th, 20th century,
13:15and we're talking up to five million pounds in some cases.
13:17Yeah, 18th to 20th century pieces,
13:20anywhere from hundreds of thousands up to and into the millions.
13:24Yeah. So irreplaceable, one-of-a-kind artefacts.
13:26You want to get them back.
13:27You also want to find out who did it.
13:29And we've got a clip we can show our viewers here.
13:32So tell me what we know.
13:33It's four people, isn't it?
13:34It is. We'd love to find out who did it.
13:36These are certainly four people that we've got an interest
13:38in understanding who they are
13:40to see if they can help us with our inquiries.
13:43This bridge you can see is a footbridge
13:45which crosses roughly from where the burglaries took place
13:48into a part of Bristol called Ashton.
13:50And you'll see from their descriptions
13:52that they're all wearing various different pieces of clothing.
13:55The orange and black coat is obviously very distinctive.
13:58Yeah.
13:59Their builds are from small to large.
14:04Specifically, there's a chap at the back who's a white male,
14:08and he walks with a limp on his right leg.
14:11Right. So this is this guy at the back here with the hoodie up,
14:14the kind of light-coloured pale green, possibly, hoodie.
14:17So he's got a limp, so that might be something people notice.
14:20It might also be the artefacts that people recognise as well.
14:24It might be someone who's maybe bought it as a collector,
14:27not realising that it's part of this collection.
14:30What are you thinking that's going to be happening to him?
14:32What's the plan with these?
14:33I'm really worried that people have inadvertently bought
14:36some of these items, whether that be from an auctioneer,
14:40from the high street, from an online auction in some way.
14:43So part of the appeal is to ask those people to come forward
14:46if they recognise some of these unique items.
14:48Yeah.
14:49So that we can try and return them to where they need to be.
14:52Yes, because unsurprisingly, these items are very collectible,
14:54and there might be someone out there who might have bought one
14:57not knowing it was stolen.
14:58And they haven't done anything wrong,
15:00so they should come forward, shouldn't they?
15:01Absolutely. We'd love for them to come forward.
15:02Some of these items are culturally, historically so important.
15:05They're irreplaceable.
15:06Yeah. And so who are you appealing to today?
15:08It's the people who might have collected these. Who else?
15:12Yeah, so it's the people who may have inadvertently bought
15:15some of these items to come forward,
15:16but also anybody that's got any information on the group
15:19that we'd like to speak to that's back on the screen now,
15:21whether that's individually or whether they recognise
15:25the four together as a group.
15:27Yeah. Jason, thank you very much. Let's hope this helps.
15:30And if you know anything at all that can help,
15:32all the ways to contact us are on the screen below.
15:37Yeah, just a quick reminder, actually, about getting in touch,
15:40then the lines are open now.
15:42Don't wait till the end of the show.
15:43If you've got information about the case that Steph just brought you
15:46or any of the cases throughout the series,
15:48do get in touch straight away.
15:50Now, though, it is time for a film about a crime
15:53that really shocked the nation,
15:56throwing subjects like toxic masculinity
15:59into the public consciousness.
16:01It's about the murder of schoolgirl Eliane Andam,
16:05who was killed in Croydon in 2023.
16:07Now, as you can imagine, this film does have some upsetting themes.
16:23Eliane, she brought joy to so many people.
16:29She had a wonderful sense of humour.
16:34She loved life, dancing, singing.
16:38She was very talented from a very young age.
16:42I used to bring her along to my studio because she loved music.
16:46So everything I do, I do it all to you.
16:50I do it because you love me.
16:52There were times where she would tell me from, like, five years old,
16:55yeah, that song's not good, don't release that song.
17:00She was the little sister that I didn't have.
17:04How was school? Good.
17:06Every single time, same thing.
17:08How was school? Good.
17:12Eliane Andam loved school.
17:15And at 15 years old, she already knew the career she wanted.
17:20She wanted to be a lawyer.
17:23My wife is a lawyer as well,
17:25so there were times where they would discuss things
17:27and plan to, hopefully, when she finishes school,
17:30to do an internship at her law firm.
17:34Yeah, she was really big on justice.
17:40She was a lawyer.
17:40On the 27th of September 2023,
17:43Eliane and two of her friends
17:45set off to the Wit Gift Shopping Centre in Croydon
17:47on their way to school.
17:53The girls had arranged to meet one of their friend's ex-boyfriends,
17:5717-year-old Hassan Sentamou,
18:00to exchange belongings.
18:04That relationship had ended quite recently.
18:08Particularly, she wants her teddy bear back.
18:11Initially, Eliane and her friends and Hassan
18:15did meet in the underground car park of the Wit Gift Centre.
18:20Eliane's friend has given back the belongings to Hassan,
18:24as planned, and he's turned up empty-handed.
18:29They leave the underground car park
18:30and they walk along the main road,
18:32which takes them past the Wit Gift Centre.
18:36Eliane's posted a Snapchat video
18:38where she says, you know,
18:39her friend's gone to exchange belongings
18:41and she hasn't got them back.
18:43Are you telling me?
18:44You're trying to collect the stuff from Hassan.
18:48You're meant to be like an interchange.
18:50She gets her car, she gets it.
18:51She didn't even bring the stuff.
18:53There's no malice there.
18:54It's ultimately Eliane showing solidarity for her friend.
19:00Eliane runs and she grabs the bag out of his hand
19:04and you actually see on the CCTV her smiling and laughing.
19:11But within seconds, the laughter turned to terror.
19:16He immediately draws a knife and he chases after Eliane.
19:26He catches her.
19:29And he stabs her.
19:30In an explosive rage.
19:35Sentamu then ran off, leaving Eliane fighting for her life.
19:39Her friends couldn't do anything.
19:42The shock, the horror, the distress.
19:48You can't really describe it.
19:52All Eliane did was stand up for her friend.
19:58A bus driver ran towards Eliane to give her first aid.
20:02He held her hand and he said that he wouldn't leave her.
20:07And he stayed with her until the emergency services arrived.
20:13It took minutes for police officers to get to the scene.
20:17While some took over from the bus driver,
20:20others questioned Eliane's friends about Sentamu.
20:26The bravery they showed in being able to give that information
20:30when going through such trauma,
20:31I just think is exceptional.
20:35Officers have identified where his last known address was
20:39and a description.
20:42A response officer who picked up the alert
20:45spotted Sentamu getting off a bus.
20:48Show me your hands.
20:49What's your name mate?
20:51What's your name?
20:54John.
20:55You got any ID on your right?
20:56I'm looking for someone who should stab someone.
20:58The officer was incredibly brave.
21:01He's able to handcuff him very quickly.
21:04How do you even do nothing, Bob?
21:06Put your hands right there.
21:07Put me on.
21:08I thought it was here.
21:10How do you even do nothing?
21:13Urgent assistant, King Henry's Drive near the park.
21:15I'm marked.
21:16I've got this mail detained.
21:19You're under arrest for suspicion.
21:20Or GBH with intent.
21:22That's what we're stabbing avoid in this morning, okay?
21:24Where's the knife?
21:24And what you actually see in that footage is the message comes out
21:27that Eliane's died and he says it's now murder.
21:30Listen to me.
21:31Hassan.
21:33It's murder.
21:38Wow.
21:39Well, the statistics around knife crime in the UK make for sobering reading.
21:44And what's particularly stark is the number of young people who are caught up in this.
21:49Now, sadly, our next guest is painfully aware of the dangers of knives.
21:53Caroline Wilgus tragically lost her son Harvey in February 2025 after he was fatally stabbed inside his school in Sheffield.
22:03Caroline, thank you so much for coming in to talk about this because I know you've got an important campaign
22:08around all of it.
22:09But tell us a bit about Harvey.
22:10He was a big Sheffield United fan, wasn't he?
22:12He was a massive blade.
22:14He was so popular, popular with the children at school, teachers.
22:19He had friends all over.
22:21He was just a crazy kid.
22:22Yeah.
22:22So he was a happy, full of life lad.
22:25And what happened?
22:27We don't really know the reasons, but he didn't go.
22:30He didn't want to go to school.
22:32And the week before when the school was in lockdown, he told us that someone had got a knife in
22:35school for him.
22:37And we were like, oh, as if our babes, if anybody's going to take a knife into school.
22:41The next time he goes into school, he didn't make dinner time.
22:45So he was worrying about going into school because of a problem already there with knives.
22:49And so now, I mean, how do you even begin to start with coping with this?
22:56I know you now want to put your energy into this campaign to stop it happening, don't you?
22:59I'm just campaigning to get knife archers into schools and bleed kits into schools.
23:04We don't know whether a bleed kit could have saved our RV, but we'll never know that answer because we
23:08didn't have one in place.
23:10So we've given 30 out up to now to schools in Sheffield and then we want to carry on and
23:16go beyond Rotherham.
23:19Yeah. And inside these bleed kits, you've got things like tourniquets, haven't you?
23:23You've got pressure dressings, chest seals, all things that hopefully will save lives.
23:29Yeah, they do save lives.
23:30It's not just for stabbings, it's for accidents, self-arming, all sorts of reasons.
23:37Yeah. So you want schools to have these bleed kits.
23:40You're also doing loads around going in to talk to kids as well, aren't you? Tell us about that.
23:44Going in to talk to children. I know it's sad, but young children as well from about age six,
23:49because I think that's where we've got to start, do it delicately.
23:53Six? Wow. I mean, I've got a six year old and you think that's how young we should be talking
23:58to them?
23:58They've got to get in there young now. We know it's barrelling out of control.
24:02And what are the six year olds saying to you when you're telling them about this?
24:06Well, they're shocked, but I've been doing it delicately and saying it's a one off, but we don't want it
24:12happening again.
24:13Yeah. And I guess it's about the people being hurt, but it's also about the people doing it as well,
24:19isn't it?
24:19Yeah. Because there's a big impact on families there.
24:22Yeah. So I go into schools and I talk about, like I say all the time, there's no winners here.
24:27This lad that's killed our RV, he's locked up for a long time.
24:30He's not with his family, he's not with his friends.
24:32He's ruined his life through one mistake, one split second.
24:36Yeah. And when you're going into schools, what kind of reaction are you getting from the children you're talking to?
24:42The children want me to go into their schools. The children want knife arches in their schools.
24:47They want bleed kits in their schools. Children know there are knives in schools.
24:51Yeah. And when you're saying knife arches, this is like the security systems that you get at an airport.
24:56Yeah. So there's kids saying to you that that's what they want, because that's how worried they are about it.
25:00I get messages all the time from children.
25:02What would you say to parents as well? Because, you know, you saying that to me about talking to six
25:06year olds,
25:07feels like, right, that I should be doing something as a parent here. What would you say to parents?
25:11I'd say talk to your children. And I also say to them, if you don't think there's a problem with
25:16knives,
25:17ask your child if they've ever thought, ever known of anybody taking a knife into school.
25:22And I think you'd be very surprised at their answer.
25:24Yeah, it's incredible. And so tell me about Harvey's Hub as well, because that's part of this.
25:28And we've got this brilliant poster here because there's there's lots of ways you're trying to help with all this.
25:34This is a poster that's going into shops, doctors, libraries, and it's got a QR code that goes to feelers.
25:42So children can scan it and report things anonymously.
25:47So if they know someone's carrying a knife, they can do it.
25:50They can do it anonymously.
25:52Yeah, because that must be the other side of this.
25:54Just kids worried about getting in trouble if they report something.
25:58So what you're saying is if they're worried about anything, this is an anonymous way of doing it.
26:02Yeah. And what what do you want to see change, Caroline, and all of this?
26:06Because it sounds like a huge undertaking, all of this, but it's so important.
26:11It is so important.
26:12And one of the other things that we're doing with Harvey's Hub is trying to get youth clubs set up
26:16for children,
26:17for somewhere to go, because children lost their social skills around our Harvey's age through Covid.
26:24And that's we need to bring this social back into kids' lives.
26:29Yeah. And I guess stop the kind of glorification around it and all these different trends around it.
26:36You just want to stop that happening, don't you?
26:38Kids want it. Kids want somewhere to go.
26:40And be themselves, play the music, watch a football, march, whatever.
26:46Just be together.
26:47And it's not just Sheffield, where you're from, that you've been doing this.
26:49You're going into schools in Birmingham and all sorts, aren't you?
26:52Yeah, this split kit's actually going into Birmingham next Thursday.
26:56Yeah.
26:56And they're showing me things that they're doing for lockdown and they put things in place to protect children.
27:02So that'll be interesting.
27:04Yeah. Well, thank you so much for doing what you're doing.
27:06Because, you know, it really does show Harvey's legacy, doesn't it?
27:09That hopefully this will stop this happening again.
27:12And thank you for coming in. I really appreciate it.
27:16Now, it is time for the second part of our film on the murder of Eliane Andham.
27:22A response officer has just arrested their suspect, but now they need to know why he committed such a violent
27:30act.
27:35A teenage boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a 15-year-old girl was stabbed to death
27:41in South London on her way to school this morning.
27:43A tragic, shocking and avoidable loss of life.
27:47The words of the Croydon MP after the fatal stabbing of a 15-year-old girl.
27:55On the 27th of September, 2023, 17-year-old Hassan Sentamu had brutally stabbed Eliane Andham in Croydon.
28:12Me and my wife and my young daughter, we were on our way on holiday.
28:18When we landed, my sister kept calling, kept calling, so I picked up.
28:23And I remember just freezing.
28:27My wife took the phone from me and my sister told her that she's been killed.
28:31We just started crying.
28:34I remember calling Eliane's mum.
28:38I wanted to hear from her.
28:41And so she confirmed it and was just breaking down, crying.
28:46She was only 15.
28:50It was a horrible, horrible time.
28:58Our hearts are broken.
29:00And we are overwhelmed by sorrow and grief.
29:06Our faith in the Lord is strengthening us.
29:10We would like to express our gratitude to those who have taken the time to send us thoughtful and compassionate
29:20messages and prayers.
29:37I have never dealt with cases with that level of emotion.
29:42I think almost Croydon stopped for 24, 48 hours.
29:50The community were absolutely devastated by what happened to Eliane.
29:57The outpouring of grief, people wanting to be there.
30:01They wanted to support the family.
30:04They were angry.
30:12Police knew who had killed Eliane.
30:15What they didn't know was why.
30:19Officers began to trawl through all the CCTV and witness statements to piece together what happened in the lead up
30:25to this shocking crime.
30:29They were in the Witgift Centre the day before.
30:33Hassan was with his friend.
30:35Eliane was with her group of friends, which included Hassan's ex-girlfriend.
30:40They were challenging him around his swearing and how the relationship had ended.
30:50We see them throw water over him.
30:52And we see them all walking away very calmly.
30:54You see Hassan sort of mopping it off of his face.
30:57But that's the end of that incident.
31:01Through witness testimonies, looking at mobile phones, that night Hassan went home.
31:06He seethed.
31:08And he was angry.
31:10And he felt disrespected.
31:13And he said that he wouldn't let that go.
31:22When he left his home the following day, he was armed with a face mask, two pairs of gloves.
31:29And he took a knife from his kitchen and took that to the meeting.
31:36When Hassan Sentamou was arrested, there was no sign of the knife.
31:40Whilst he was held in police custody, detectives had to work quickly to gather evidence.
31:47What we see on CCTV is Hassan running away.
31:50We see him take his gloves and his face mask off.
31:53We believe that he's dumped those in a bin and he's continued to run away.
31:59He then goes on to dispose of the knife in a front garden.
32:07He gets on the 1.30 bus.
32:11After he gets off that bus at 9.42, he gets onto the Route 64 bus, which is where he
32:17makes his way towards his home.
32:18And when he exits that bus, it's where the arresting officer sees him and obviously runs towards him to make
32:24that arrest.
32:27The knife was recovered and then sent to the lab urgently.
32:33Forensics confirmed Sentamou's DNA was on the knife.
32:37They had the CCTV footage and the murder weapon, but police couldn't understand what triggered such a violent attack.
32:46The arresting officer had described Hassan being very calm, not acting in a way you would expect for somebody that
32:53had just stabbed a young girl in such an explosive rage.
33:00Sentamou's past would offer police an insight into his behaviour.
33:07When he was very young, 12 years old, he'd taken a knife into a school and he'd actually threatened to
33:13hurt himself.
33:15Although the police had only ever been notified about one incident.
33:20Actually, when you took all the records of his different schools and he had been excluded from some for violence,
33:26where he'd threatened and harmed pupils, where he'd threatened animals, this was a pattern of behaviour.
33:33It showed that actually, when he doesn't get his way, where he was cross, he would use violence.
33:42On the 13th of March, 2025, Hassan Sentamou was sentenced to life imprisonment for Eliane's murder.
33:51Throughout this whole investigation, Hassan Sentamou was shown no remorse whatsoever for the murder of Eliane.
33:58He gave no explanation for his acts that day.
34:03A little girl's lost her life.
34:06No justice or verdict will ever bring her back.
34:13Our world was shattered and our hearts were broken.
34:19Her death has left a void in our lives that can never be filled.
34:25We will continue to fight against the violence that took Eliane from us,
34:29working toward a world where no family has to endure such heartbreak.
34:36Following Eliane's death, a mural was created in honour of her life.
34:45One of the ways to honour Eliane was to have some sort of physical memory of her.
34:52And so the mural came about.
34:55And we have it right in the heart of Croydon, where she was sadly killed.
35:02We are sharing who she is.
35:06And we are looking at different ways to continue her legacy.
35:15What a beautiful mural there.
35:17Well, in March last year, we spoke to the sisters of 25-year-old Lisa Dorian,
35:22who disappeared in February 2005.
35:25She was last seen in a caravan in Ballyhalbert in County Down.
35:29Now, police believe she was murdered, but her body has never been found.
35:34Well, now there has been a major development.
35:37Last week, two people were arrested.
35:39A 40-year-old woman in Northern Ireland and a 42-year-old man in Scotland.
35:44Both arrested on suspicion of murder, assisting offenders,
35:47withholding information and preventing a lawful and decent burial.
35:51And this week, two more men were arrested.
35:54A 40-year-old on suspicion of assisting offenders and withholding information.
35:58And a 48-year-old on suspicion of murder, assisting offenders and preventing a decent and lawful burial.
36:05Well, this year marks the 21st anniversary of Lisa's disappearance.
36:10And the Police Service of Northern Ireland are urging anyone with any information
36:15to do the right thing and come forward.
36:18Time now for Wanted Faces.
36:25And first today, we have Liam Patrick Weaver, though you may know him as Paddy.
36:31Police in Lincolnshire want to talk to him about a burglary.
36:35He's 36 and has several tattoos, including a dragon, a sword and the words Paddy and England.
36:42Next today, we've got Jonathan Scott, but he has a range of nicknames, including Bomber, Bomber Scott and Little Bomber.
36:50He was charged with conspiracy to supply Class A drugs and pleaded guilty in court, but has since disappeared.
36:5735-year-old has a Liverpudlian accent with connections across Merseyside, Carlisle and also Cheshire.
37:04And last for today anyway, we have Dermot Quilligan.
37:08He's been charged with fraud offences relating to misleading a number of homeowners about roofing work.
37:15He's 46 with an Irish accent and has connections in Harlow in Essex and also Limerick in Ireland.
37:23If you know any of the whereabouts of any of these men, please do pick up the phone and get
37:28in touch.
37:29Now, this weekend marks International Women's Day, a day to celebrate women everywhere.
37:34And in honour of that, we've got a cracking story for you now.
37:37Four generations of one family who have all joined the police force.
37:42PC Ellie James from Greater Manchester Police is here with us.
37:46So you're 18 months in to the job, aren't you?
37:49You're following a line of women who've done the same.
37:52But tell us a bit about how it's going.
37:54So 18 months feels a bit like a lifetime, to be honest.
37:56Yeah.
37:57So I joined in September 2024, where I then did 21 weeks of training out of Sedgley Park.
38:02And I had my passing out parade February 2025.
38:06I'm on the response team now.
38:08And it's amazing.
38:10The team's fantastic.
38:11It's a bit like an overbearing, overprotective family.
38:16Supervision are fantastic as well.
38:17Yeah.
38:19Knowing that they've got my back and I can go to them with anything.
38:21And I'm just a bit of a sponge at the moment, sort of absorbing any information and wisdom
38:26that they're sort of passing down to me.
38:27Yeah.
38:28Because you've done some interesting jobs before this as well, haven't you?
38:30Yeah.
38:31So I didn't want to join straight away at sort of 18 or 19.
38:34I wanted to get a little bit of life experience.
38:37So I was an air hostess.
38:38I've worked in marketing.
38:40I was also a beauty therapist.
38:42So, I mean, looks-wise, probably a small female officer.
38:45It's not typically what people think of with police officers.
38:49But again, it's breaking those barriers and stereotypes.
38:52Yeah.
38:52And all those transferable skills as well.
38:54It just shows you people that might be watching this going, oh, I could do that.
38:57Yeah, absolutely.
38:58I think coming here today was important as well to show that sort of no matter what
39:03your background is in terms of careers, height as well, that you can do it.
39:09I've done it.
39:09Well, many people in your family have.
39:12Yes.
39:12Especially the women.
39:13Well, let's talk about that then.
39:14How many women in your family have been police officers?
39:17Here we go.
39:17There's some of them.
39:18So starting on the left is Ivy Baxter.
39:20She's my great, great, great, great auntie.
39:23Look at that uniform.
39:24Yeah, I wouldn't want to run in that skirt.
39:26No?
39:27So she joined in 1937.
39:30She saw an ad in the newspaper for volunteer women police officers to go over to the Isle
39:36of Man.
39:37So she was over there and she was dealing with sort of high-risk prisoners in Port Erin and
39:43Port St Mary.
39:44And after three years, she was promoted to sergeant.
39:47So she was doing that during the war.
39:49And yeah, some fantastic stories from her.
39:53I bet.
39:54And then second on the left is my great, great, great aunt Joyce.
39:58So she joined in the 50s.
40:01She was one of the first women police officers to drive.
40:05So she was one of six.
40:07Wow.
40:07So that was amazing.
40:08It's quite ironic because I can only drive automatic cars.
40:11Sorry, Joyce.
40:13But she did 26 years.
40:15And in the 70s.
40:16Did they have a little nickname?
40:17Yeah, the Fly Girls.
40:18Fly Girls.
40:19So yeah, the first six women officers to drive.
40:23So in the 70s, she was also one of the founding members of the Metropolitan Police Women's
40:28Association.
40:28And that's for serving female officers and retired female officers.
40:32And they're celebrating 50 years of friendship this year.
40:36They were again breaking down the barriers, the stereotypes and obviously a male dominated industry.
40:41Yeah.
40:41And she married a police officer, Burt Davis, who was a driver for the bomb squad in London.
40:47Wow.
40:47Gosh, just a history.
40:48And then we get to your mum, don't we?
40:50Yeah.
40:50So my mum joined in 1996.
40:53She was a response cop and she worked Lady Diana's funeral as well, which she says was
40:58probably one of her proudest moments.
41:01She met my dad at Peckham.
41:04Yeah, of course.
41:05This is where you come into the story.
41:06This is where I am.
41:06Well, I'm not her dad.
41:07I'm not her dad.
41:08Just to be clear.
41:10That would be a revelation.
41:12Yeah, of course.
41:12I worked with your dad.
41:13So yeah, I worked with my dad.
41:14And I have to say that both your parents have a very good reputation in the police.
41:18So big shoes for you to fill.
41:20No pressure.
41:21Yeah.
41:22So yeah, my mum worked up literally five days before giving birth to me in 2000.
41:27Oh, did she?
41:27Wow.
41:28Yeah.
41:28So I think hopefully that sort of hard work ethics passed down to me.
41:32I don't know about five days before birth though.
41:34And yeah, so my dad retired four years ago as a detective sergeant.
41:38He did his 30 years.
41:39And then it's obviously me.
41:41Fantastic.
41:41Yeah.
41:42So it's obviously early days for you at the moment, 18 months in.
41:44Yeah, absolutely.
41:45But where do you see your path going within policing at the moment?
41:48So at the moment, I'm on response.
41:49That's obviously responding to 909 calls.
41:51We call it the blues and twos when you put your sirens on.
41:54I can't do that just yet, but hopefully soon.
41:56And I'm really, really enjoying it.
41:58I mean, every day is so different.
42:01I could sit here all day and tell you the sorts of jobs that we do.
42:05But a prominent one for me was about a month ago,
42:08I was one of the first officers on scene to a fatal stabbing.
42:12And you never know how you're going to do in that situation.
42:16But I mean, the teamwork from the paramedics, the doctors, all the other officers,
42:21we worked fantastic as a team.
42:24And just sort of being in that environment, it was amazing to be part of that team.
42:27And you got the support of the team as well.
42:29Yeah, it was fantastic.
42:30Supporting you in such a difficult situation.
42:32Yeah, supervision as well were amazing.
42:33We were debriefed by Mitt as well.
42:36Yeah.
42:36And then hopefully in the future, probably follow my dad's footsteps and become a detective.
42:40And one day a chief constable.
42:41Absolutely.
42:43Thank you so much.
42:45Thank you for coming in.
42:46I think that is the end of the shows for this week, actually.
42:49But we've had some heavy subjects.
42:51So if you have been affected by any of the issues from today's programme or any this week,
42:55do visit BBC Action Line, where you can find links that provide support.
42:59And Steph, you're going to be back with us next week, but the end of next week.
43:01Yes, I will be.
43:03Yeah, you've got Michelle with you on Monday with a nail biting film, actually, as two
43:07officers face a life or death situation as a woman is stuck in some rocks as the tide
43:12is coming in.
43:16I remember thinking to myself, if we don't do something now, then we're going to watch
43:22this woman die.
43:26Goodness.
43:27Well, that is scary, isn't it?
43:28Yeah.
43:28Have a great weekend, whatever you're up to.
43:30And we'll see you Monday, 10.45.
43:32Bye for now.
43:32Yeah.
43:32Bye bye.
43:58Bye bye.
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