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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 08: A Deadly Argument
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00:099-1-1, what is the address of your emergency?
00:11Yes, I need an ambulance. 3028, no road.
00:14Tell me exactly what happened.
00:16My girlfriend's not breathing.
00:18Okay, stand online with me, okay?
00:20We've got help on the way.
00:22Nicole!
00:28Okay, listen carefully.
00:30Pump the chest hard and fast, at least twice per second and two inches deep.
00:34Start now.
00:39Count out loud so I can count with you.
00:42One, two, three, four.
00:53One, two, three, four.
00:57Keep going, don't stop.
01:00One, two, three, four.
01:19Female not breathing.
01:20She's got no pulse.
01:22We have someone take the bag for him, and Chris is going to get on the chest here.
01:26Hey, Brian, we do have three dead.
01:28All right.
01:29All right.
01:30All right.
01:32All right.
01:32All right.
01:33All right.
01:33All right.
01:36All right.
01:46All right.
01:47First, two, three, four.
01:49All right.
01:49All right.
01:49Affirmative, four, 10.
01:55Anyone know what happened to her recently?
01:57I have no idea.
01:59Okay.
01:59I didn't know if you guys had a call or something.
02:01Who is this?
02:02I don't know her name.
02:16What's her name?
02:17Nicole.
02:18Nicole.
02:19What's her name, sir?
02:20Tom.
02:21What happened?
02:22How did you guys?
02:23We were arguing.
02:25She said she wasn't feeling great.
02:26She fell over on the floor.
02:28I need you outside with me, OK?
02:30I want to be with my kids.
02:31I understand that, but I need you outside.
02:32I'm not leaving my kids, sir.
02:33Sir, I need to.
02:35Listen.
02:35Sir, go on.
02:36Go on.
02:37It's going to be OK.
02:38I just need to talk to you, OK?
02:40I need to figure out what's going on.
02:43Look, I'm sure.
02:45Can you wait?
02:46Can I be with my kids from here?
02:48Sir, I need to.
02:49Listen, I'm trying to figure out what is going on so I can help you.
02:51I told you as much as I can.
02:53Can I please have a moment with my kids and try to get a hold of somebody from my kids?
02:56OK.
02:56OK.
03:02Is that your wife or their mom?
03:05That's my girlfriend, the mother of my children, yes.
03:07I need your help with this so we can help her.
03:09Can you give me a minute?
03:10Can you leave me alone, please?
03:12Janelle.
03:17He's being completely uncooperative.
03:19They were arguing, and he said she just fell over.
03:21Where is he?
03:22Right here.
03:24Sir, we need to talk to you, sir.
03:28OK.
03:29I know you're going through a lot, but we have to talk to you to get some ideas of what's
03:33going on, OK?
03:35Sir.
03:36Can you leave me alone, please?
03:37No, I need to understand.
03:38I've got to get a hold of somebody from my kids.
03:40OK.
03:40I need to know what's going on.
03:42Go find out what's going on.
03:44I don't know what's going on.
03:45Sir, you're right here when this all happens.
03:47What is her name?
03:48Her name is Nicole.
03:49Nicole what?
03:50Nicole Booth.
03:51Booth.
03:52Does she have any medical issues?
03:53Um, not that I know of, no.
03:57Did you guys see anything?
03:59You leave them alone.
04:00No.
04:01Sir.
04:01Ma'am.
04:02We need to understand what...
04:03Can you please stop that?
04:04I asked.
04:05I asked to give me a minute, please.
04:07Listen.
04:07I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
04:09I just asked for you to give me a minute.
04:10So you can stop.
04:11No.
04:11I just asked for you to give me a minute.
04:12That's the first thing I asked him.
04:14OK.
04:15I didn't have a chance to call nobody.
04:16I was trying to get my kids.
04:17OK.
04:18I got you guys here.
04:19Listen.
04:20I've been trying to get...
04:20Shut your mouth.
04:21We're trying to understand...
04:22Please not talk to me like that.
04:23How about listen to me?
04:24I have not listened to you.
04:26Will you please listen to me?
04:27I'm trying to talk to you.
04:28And I'm trying to be nice about it.
04:30I'm trying to figure out so we can help the EMTs,
04:33so they can understand what's going on.
04:35What does she use?
04:36I told you what's going on.
04:37She said she wasn't feeling good.
04:38She fell over.
04:41410, are you still in route here?
04:42This mail is completely uncooperative.
04:53It's probably what's going to happen.
04:54As so far, he's given the name of Nicole Booth.
04:58They were arguing a little bit ago,
05:00and then she fell out.
05:0521 here.
05:06All right, sir, I need you to come with me.
05:08Now.
05:08Stand up.
05:10Please, sir.
05:11Stand up.
05:11Please, sir.
05:12Outside, come on.
05:17Outside.
05:23You need to take a seat.
05:26Okay.
05:27Listen.
05:28Please don't do this before my kids let me.
05:29Listen.
05:30Let me talk to them.
05:31You need to calm down.
05:32I'm trying to calm down.
05:34I'm trying to help the EMTs so they could save Nicole.
05:37Nicole.
05:37Okay.
05:38Nicole.
05:38What happened?
05:39How did she end up on the floor?
05:40We took a shower.
05:41She wasn't feeling good.
05:42We took a shower.
05:44We went out to the couch.
05:45She said she wasn't feeling good.
05:47She got down on the floor, and she fell over.
05:50I tried getting her up.
05:52I got some water.
05:52I threw some water on her.
05:53She didn't wake up.
05:55Okay.
05:55You need to stand up.
05:57Stand up.
05:58Can you take these off so I can get my hands up, please?
05:59No, absolutely not.
06:00Please.
06:01I need to get my hands over my head to get a breath.
06:04What's a phone number we can call for someone to be here?
06:07I don't know phone numbers, sweetie.
06:08They're holding my phone.
06:09Give me a name.
06:11She knows how to work your phone.
06:12Give me a name.
06:13I was calling my sister.
06:14Okay.
06:15You have to understand.
06:16We're trying to figure out what's going on as well.
06:19You have to be cooperative.
06:21You weren't being cooperative.
06:22Well, you weren't.
06:22Give me a name.
06:23You're not telling us anything because you're here to help your kids.
06:25Sir, not walk away.
06:27I'm just trying to sit out, man.
06:28Have a seat right there.
06:29We're not going to deal with this nonsense.
06:31I'm not dealing with nonsense.
06:34So you're telling me you guys were in an argument, and she magically just fell and passed out right there.
06:40So far, we have a 21.
06:42Still trying to figure out what's going on here.
06:44Listen.
06:45Oh, please.
06:46Listen.
06:46What is your name?
06:48Tom.
06:49Okay.
06:50Tom what?
06:51Kralie.
06:52Kralie?
06:53Okay.
06:54What does she use?
06:58What does she use?
07:00You need to tell me so I can help her.
07:02We need to know what she used.
07:05You're not going to tell us?
07:07Then you'll go to jail because you're uncooperative.
07:10Sit up.
07:11You need to stop.
07:12You're going to fall off the steps, and you're going to hurt yourself.
07:16You're going to hurt yourself.
07:21Pulse return.
07:32Let's go.
07:33Oh.
07:34Not part of the point.
07:36I'm doing it.
07:38I can't believe it.
07:40All right, you got to bump anybody.
07:41I can't do it.
07:41Yeah, get the pat down.
07:42I can't do it.
07:44I can't do it.
07:45I can't do it.
07:45I can't do it.
07:47I can't do it.
07:49I can't do it.
08:04Slow your breathing down, deep breaths, deep breaths, you'll catch your breath, deep
08:08breaths.
08:09Do it for your kids, calm down.
08:21Sir, you're making it worse on yourself.
08:25You're going to make it worse.
08:34Sir, what do you want me to do for you?
08:37I can't breathe, get my hands above my head, so I can expand my lungs, come on, please.
08:43Sir, you're going to hurt yourself, okay?
08:46You're going to end up in the back of my car if we don't stop.
08:50You need to stop.
08:52Your kids are right here.
08:53You need to stop.
08:54You need to calm down for them.
08:57Do you need a hospital, sir?
08:59Did you take any narcotics or any other drug today that is affecting the way you are acting?
09:07Is that, is this what happened in the cold, did she, did she use a drug?
09:15Also, they're transporting her to the hospital, they're still working on her with the machine.
09:21Do you think it's a drug overdose, or?
09:27Can I step in the back to look at it, or?
09:29Okay.
09:35We had a full arrest.
09:37It's a 30-year-old female.
09:38We had a return of pulse.
09:40What is she?
09:40She's at 95 for pulse right now.
09:42She's still unresponsive to us.
09:45I'd say a helicopter for this.
09:47Go ahead and call.
09:48Dispatch, come get a helicopter.
09:50Are we able to get a helicopter sorted over here?
09:54I can try.
09:55Nobody's going to find us today.
09:57It's just a pretty critical patient.
10:10You don't think any of this is from when she fell?
10:12I don't know.
10:13I didn't see where she was.
10:14I don't know.
10:14Not from that.
10:17Yeah.
10:17She has broken teeth.
10:18I think she's got jaw fractures.
10:20423 to 410.
10:22But we got pulse.
10:23I don't want him to go.
10:2733, don't let him out of your sight.
10:31This evening through tomorrow, 19, first alert weather day in effect.
10:34Area-wide snow with a clipper system.
10:36Lake effect then follows it.
10:38And the winds, the winds are going to be a really, really big deal with this storm.
10:42This is Jared with community care.
10:44We have a post-arrest.
10:46Looks to me from blunt force trauma.
10:48Because she's covered head to toe in bruises.
10:51She has some teeth knocked out.
10:54I was trying to get a helicopter out.
10:57Yes.
10:59What do we got going on here?
11:01He's...
11:01Why is this guy laying in the doorway with a blanket on him?
11:03He's half naked.
11:04Okay.
11:06All right, I want you to stand up.
11:08Hey, tell us what's going on here so we can figure this out.
11:11You're laying down...
11:13He's...
11:13He's coughing.
11:14This ain't happening.
11:15So we need to put him in a police car.
11:16Yes, that's...
11:17Okay.
11:29Once we get in our car, then we can start to sort through this in a rational, logical
11:34way.
11:34So when you're laying in the doorway and there's kids crying, that's not helpful.
11:40Don't you agree, Tom?
11:41It's not helpful.
11:49Warm.
11:51Heat.
11:51Heat.
11:52Heat.
11:52Yeah, it's warm.
11:52It's warm in there.
11:54Heat high.
11:55Okay.
11:56Sit tight in there.
11:57Can I get my hands above my head?
11:59Nope, please.
11:59Sit there.
12:01Okay, what's happening?
12:02Okay, so got called here, obviously, for unresponsive female.
12:05Okay.
12:05Unknown circumstances.
12:06I show up.
12:07He's running around sweating crazy.
12:10Okay.
12:10She's laying in the living room, like near the dining table area.
12:13Okay.
12:14Completely unconscious, not breathing.
12:15They're giving her CPR.
12:16Do you see any injuries on her when you're looking at her?
12:17Oh, absolutely.
12:18Do you see her legs?
12:19I haven't seen her yet.
12:20She is black and blue, wrapped up cuts.
12:22Do they still want to land a helicopter?
12:24Nope.
12:26They're flying from all hospitals.
12:42Where did you see mom at when she couldn't breathe?
12:46Here, I had a soda.
12:49You had a soda?
12:50Okay.
12:54This is...
12:57Okay.
12:58Is it wet because he put some water on mom to try to help her?
13:02Okay.
13:03423, I was doing poor.
13:06423.
13:07Female's being transported to Geagha.
13:14is this like a shower yeah it's so much money to do a shower like oh it's a lot yeah
13:21who's
13:21who's in a wheelchair uh my mom was using it for a shower oh does she have a hard time
13:27walking
13:27her oh she does what happened oh can i talk to you outside yeah okay okay she has uh they
13:40think a
13:41broken jaw her teeth are all broken um her eye is all cut up this eye is all bruised swollen
13:48shut
13:48um her legs are covered in bruises her arms your stuff are also the the face is brand new okay
13:54um
13:55so i didn't see where she was laying oh okay i tried to there's no like skin or anything under
14:02her nails i tried looking at that okay um but these are these kind of look a little old but
14:08it's kind of hard to tell with all that on this up on the face looks pretty fluffy yeah okay
14:13um
14:14they let me get that real quick that's all that's new okay for sure yeah um okay i'll make it
14:22okay okay
14:37yeah hey grandma grump are here they're gonna hang out with you for a little bit right here
14:39in the in the four-year area yes really short you quit calling everybody yeah he's really he's
14:50blowing up everybody's phone yeah normally they don't have a phone so he oh okay they're not even
14:56allowed to touch a phone oh those aren't their phones i don't know i told them to go grab a
15:00phone
15:00oh okay she didn't know how much number okay but you don't need to be calling 5 000 people
15:07okay why did you call whose one is this one that's the dad yeah this is the dad's okay and
15:12whose one
15:12did you just put in your pocket i have no clue if i have it back grab it back i'll
15:15take them all just
15:16until we yeah well we figure out what's going on who called aunt needed to come get them the dad
15:22kept trying to call a bunch of people when i was first here to come and get them i don't
15:28know
15:28he was just trying to call people well just because nobody takes their kids nobody yeah i
15:35they've spent one night away from their mom and dad since they've been born obviously today's a
15:40little it tastes a little different than usual because things that happen today don't usually
15:43happen or strong he's sitting in my car okay he won't say what's happening
15:53hi babies how bad is nikki can you guys tell me that like no no where did you guys take
15:58her
15:59chiaga chiaga yes that's why was that have they gotten a hold of her parents at all
16:04everything's in the very early stages okay so you guys are pretty much the first people
16:08other i'm pretty familiar with a lot of things that go on here is that right okay i come out
16:12here a lot
16:13the kids will tell you that yeah i've uh i've been to check on nikki a few times okay
16:18maybe uh get the cookie you want to speak to her outside so that everybody in the whole world
16:22doesn't have to hear everything yeah let me go out here and talk to her i'll be right back in
16:27you
16:27guys okay how are you hello i'm good how are you i'm okay all right just give me a minute
16:34i'm
16:35going to talk to him real quick okay
16:42hi
16:42hi
16:44what matter i'll tell you everything i already briefed you on yeah i tried talking to the kids
16:49when we first got here they were in the bedroom and the guy was back there and i'm trying to
16:54like
16:54ask him his name what's going on he wouldn't talk to me where's he at now in that's car
16:59right down here and i tried talking to the kid like hey what happened and he was like no don't
17:03you won't let them talk to me so that they might open up a little bit she she said she
17:07knows some
17:08stuff this is a sister
17:15uh yeah i've been out here to check on nikki a couple times um i know that my brother has
17:20been
17:20physically abusive to her in the past um last time i was out here was probably about two weeks ago
17:29and nikki was unrecognizable honestly i've been in fear to contact you guys she's asked me not to
17:35contact you guys what's his name uh tom um which is greatly greatly okay um is he in jail is
17:42that i'm
17:42guessing no no he's in someone's car yeah he's in one of the back of one of the cars
17:50oh he's here okay yeah um yeah what do you mean unrecognizable like you you she didn't look like
17:57my sister-in-law like cuts bruises scrapes beat the up
18:05she's begged me not to call you guys i think in fear of what may happen okay to her
18:12um that was two weeks ago about two weeks ago i would say she have any bruising or anything on
18:16her legs or arms uh she was covered up okay so i don't know but i know that she couldn't
18:23move very
18:23easily so i i would have to say so okay the kids did say she has some trouble walking um
18:31but
18:32they didn't say why she couldn't breathe like no they said they didn't really see anything
18:38so but i think it's in fear that he has told them probably not to talk probably this is is
18:46that
18:46usually what happened um i just didn't say a lot to them in front of me okay um i just
18:52know that he
18:54he doesn't like the cops and that he's kind of trained the kids the same way if you will yeah
19:00um
19:03okay yeah i don't i don't know what happened when's the last time you talked to her
19:06to her they were actually just at my house two nights ago i believe and she have any marks on
19:15her then her face was still swelled and stuff like her eyes were bruised or anything i know her nose
19:21looked like a little wide okay um like i said i i didn't see her very clearly it was it
19:27was my time
19:27when they went over there okay i'm gonna come up here so i don't have to look up at you
19:31sorry
19:32but um yeah she um her lips look a little a little swelled too you know um like i said
19:39i couldn't see
19:40her face real clearly is it typical just arguments or is it like the same thing you think i know
19:46that
19:46they fight a lot um i think tom needs help um tom is like a conspiracy theory he kind of
19:54he's up i love him but he's my brother and he's up
20:17this one's way better now so tell me how's that one feel now that one's way better
20:29okay as you're in handcuffs and you're in back in the police car i'm going to advise you of your
20:33right you're the right to remain silent anything you say can will be used against you for a while
20:42tom look at me you guys ever get physical can you do me a favor what's that what you're in
20:48favor
20:48and i'll talk to you for hours if you want what do you need let me go in and sit
20:54with my kids and
20:55hold my kids because i'm gonna need to give you things anyway you're gonna need to give me things
21:00i want to give you things i have tons of things to give you like what
21:08boxes of stuff boxes boxes of stuff like what tons of stuff i don't know it doesn't help me
21:15i'm interested in what happened tonight okay thomas
21:23we've been arguing
21:28okay
21:30we were in the living room we started arguing again and she said that she didn't feel good
21:38she fell
21:40she fell
21:44thomas
21:45listen to me
21:46hey
21:49nicole didn't sustain those injuries from falling you know that
21:53i know
21:56i'm not saying you're a bad guy
21:57i think things just got a little carried away tonight would you agree
22:02would you agree with that
22:06i'm not agreeing with that you're trying to put me in a position i don't want to be in
22:11and that's making me upset i don't want to i wouldn't want to be in that position either
22:16i get that i understand
22:23i'm not uncuffing you and having you put your arms around your children
22:27it's not going to happen
22:31i can't do it
22:33those handcuffs aren't coming off until you get to jail
22:45lieutenant ward's going to kind of give us an idea of what he wants everybody to do
22:48until we figure out what's going on i don't want anybody in this house okay
22:52okay everybody's going to have to to get i don't want anybody taking anything
22:57um so i need you guys to go out to your cars
23:00okay so we can do what we need to do in here
23:03don't be afraid to talk to these guys okay
23:05they're here to help they're here to help you
23:07okay and your mom and your mom
23:09that's the more important thing we need to help your mom okay
23:12okay
23:12because she's she's not doing well in hospital and doctors need
23:15okay listen they need to know what happens and what goes on here
23:18okay
23:24talking to the kids
23:34you guys are okay okay
23:35when you're done talking
23:37when you're done
23:38don't yeah
23:38don't come out and sit with mom and papa
23:40you're all right baby girl
23:42but i need my tools
23:46in a minute okay bud
23:47you good
23:48yeah
23:49all right
23:50do you want to help your mommy
23:52do you want to get out of this situation so your mommy's safe
23:54i know that daddy's told you guys not to talk to people
23:57but sometimes you have to have they been fighting the past couple days like they do
24:02when aunt ada comes out to visit and check on you guys
24:06yes
24:07they have been
24:08there's a great bucket
24:09of hair
24:14okay so in the shower i did see a clump of hair in the shower
24:17okay
24:18okay yeah
24:18there's a bucket of hair in the shower
24:24just whatever you guys can remember we need to talk to these guys
24:27and we need to talk to them okay
24:30that way they can go
24:33this will help your mom
24:34and this will help your mom and this will help your dad get the help that he needs hopefully
25:06you won't listen to me nobody will
25:09i am listening listen we have to ride to the county jail and i will listen to you
25:12all the things that i'm telling you i need for my my evidence you're going to destroy because
25:18people are going to be in my house you're not going to get it all i've offered to give it
25:22to
25:22you and i've tried to talk to you and you guys just make a mockery of me is it not
25:26good enough
25:27that i'm trying to talk to you is it not good enough that i called for services is it not
25:32good
25:32enough that i tried to give you information it's honestly honestly tom nobody i didn't do nothing
25:37i didn't create no problems the only thing i asked for was to give me a moment so i could
25:42calm down and counsel my kids and get something
25:45when someone needs help and you want to give us a box of papers that's no good
25:49you know there's nothing in my house that's going to save her there's nothing in my house that's
25:54going to save her what happened to her
25:57you were there and we weren't and if someone could tell me what happened in your house
26:01before i got there and i could pass it on to the doctors it might make the difference between her
26:06living and dying so i don't want to talk about boxes of papers so why don't we talk about what
26:10happened to her so we can help the doctors understand what's going on so they can develop
26:14a plan to help treat her and try to get her to live i'm not a doctor what do you
26:18want me to tell
26:19you well what happened in the house before we got there i'm not a doctor what do you want me
26:24to tell
26:24you that's going to save her life what caused her injuries what caused her injuries you can tell
26:28me what caused what caused her injuries is a great start me and her what does that mean that means
26:35just what i said it means me and her she hurt herself yes she's hurt herself okay i told the
26:419-1-1
26:42dispatch she said she wasn't feeling good and she passed out she quit breathing so how did her face
26:47get all like that change the subject on me no i'm saying you said the subject on me okay
26:58i'm not going to pull over i can hear you just fine there's no reason i have to stop to
27:01be able
27:01to listen i can listen and drive but you're gonna miss the most important things for me but yet but
27:08yet you said nothing yet you keep trying to tell you but you won't listen how am i not listening
27:14my ears are wide open you just ain't saying nothing you asked me what was in the boxes and
27:19i told you lots of things and then you turn around and mock me like oh well that's how that's
27:24gonna
27:24save her right because that's what's most important yeah right you don't you don't you don't care one
27:28bit about her you could you could care less no i don't i don't care about a thing about you
27:31because
27:32you don't treat me like a human you haven't told us one thing that would help help that woman don't
27:36treat me like a human the doctors want to know about her injuries they're seeing injuries and they
27:41want to know what caused the injuries and they don't know i tried to tell you what caused her
27:45tell me again i don't listen good tell me again my ears are open no tell me again what caused
27:51the
27:51injuries the mother of your children is in the hospital fighting for her life she needs somebody
27:56i'm not a doctor okay and you won't even help you won't even say what a cop you won't even
28:00say
28:00what happened saying what happened ain't gonna change nothing it ain't gonna save her life
28:05i told you check her lungs and check her head what more do you want from me i'm not a
28:10doctor i'm a
28:11criminal tell you treat me anyway a worthless piece of crap oh you've been treated far from that tom
28:18i'm done talking to you because you don't do nothing but treat me like a fool well well you'll have
28:24to
28:24think about that well what i'll have to think about it you guys have the burden of proof
28:32you said your mommy had the wrap on her i saw that i also saw like the black and blue
28:36marks
28:37what what happened did your daddy cause the bruises yes did he hit her with something or did he hit
28:44it
28:44what did he hit her with part of a bb gun part of a bb gun where is that bb
28:49gun do you know where
28:50that is i think it's either don't touch it don't touch it don't touch it i think it's either
28:55over there in the arm we'll leave it for the detective don't touch baby don't touch don't
29:02okay okay just don't touch it when when did that was that today i think last night last night
29:08did you hear mommy fall today too right there right here by the couch
29:20so there's a bb gun in there he hit her in the face with the bb gun
29:24is that what who said that the kid the daughter i know last time i was out here no it
29:30wasn't two
29:30weeks ago um when i was out here the time before that that i was out here i gave her
29:34a hug i was
29:35getting ready to leave and she did she was worded right here please don't leave he's going to tell me
29:50i can't stand here and tell you thing after thing after thing oh you told me nothing not not not
29:55even one thing nothing okay four tennis so far
30:01signal five west door was open no i didn't tell you nothing i did not tell you nothing you'll have
30:09a chance to talk to the detectives tom you should at least be working out
30:16good evening
30:19thomas grayley is going to be placed in a holding cell by himself until he's
30:22interviewed by a detective okay
30:24come on
30:31bye buddy thanks for thank you it's probably slippery step down slowly step down slowly
31:00you guys are aware that nicole sustains some pre-severe injuries i heard
31:08i'm just trying to figure out if this has been an ongoing issue with them
31:13tj and nikki fought
31:15i mean i've never seen him hit her
31:22i have we both know that he has maxed her he's told never again don't let us see it don't
31:29let us hear about it but anything like this
31:33god we had no clue
31:34he's a control freak he has to be in control of everybody's life
31:42you had indicated that you've been friends with thomas grayley since elementary school
31:48um junior high six sixth seventh grade i mean it sounds like you were probably closer
31:53than anybody else than anybody else i mean in all reality which is i guess why why i feel so
32:00guilty
32:00he called me on the 25th in the morning and i went out there and nikki was beat up
32:05and you said that was the 25th of october yeah yeah it looked like she'd been punched in the
32:11right here was all black and blue and then i was like what the is going on
32:14right you know and then we went outside because i wasn't going to stand there and talk in front of
32:18the kids he told me he punched her he told me he punched her he told me he did
32:29i was like oh shit
32:30i got it
32:30i got it
32:50Thomas, my name is Detective Ward.
32:53You have the right to remain silent.
32:54Anything you say can will be used against you in a corridor.
32:57Do you understand your rights?
32:59Yeah.
33:00I tried to be as honest with you as I could yesterday and you just pretty much took me for
33:05a joke.
33:06No, I didn't take you for a joke.
33:08You took me for a joke.
33:09I asked you to take me in the house and I would give you everything I could to help you
33:14out.
33:15In exchange for her hugging her kids, you either want to discuss how Nicole sustained her injuries and how she
33:24has bruising all over her body that's in various stages of healing.
33:30How she ended up with a lacerated spleen.
33:34Sir, I don't want to hurt you with you.
33:36I don't want to give you a hard time.
33:38Okay.
33:39My question to you directly is how did Nicole sustain injuries?
33:42And I'm not talking to you about the question.
33:45Okay.
33:46Here's my problem, sir.
33:48This isn't what you've done.
33:49Okay?
33:49Detective, can you listen to me?
33:51No, I'm not going to.
33:52You're talking circles.
33:53I've got a search warrant to collect your DNA.
33:56That's your copy.
33:57Everything that I say or do will be used against me in court of law.
34:01It doesn't matter what I say or do.
34:04My words are twisted around and boring.
34:08I don't need to say anything.
34:10Nicole's injuries speak volumes.
34:12Okay.
34:15Sir, I tried to help you.
34:16I told my children I-
34:18You didn't try nothing.
34:19I didn't try nothing.
34:20That's why I tried to give you a box.
34:22This is paperwork, right?
34:23I'm tired of hearing about paperwork.
34:25Unless the box of the paperwork has to do with the confession.
34:28I'm not overly concerned about the box of the paperwork.
34:32Can I get some water, please?
34:34Wanna pop?
34:36Crazy.
34:38You think that comes over with a crack?
34:39What's that?
34:41In a cup?
34:44Can't drink another bottle?
34:48I'm nervous.
34:50You can have this pop.
34:51I'm not gonna run out and give you a cup, okay?
34:55I asked you specifically how did Nicole sustain the injuries that she had.
35:00Your response was, nothing for a moment.
35:04And then you said, we've been fighting since June.
35:07We got into a fight tonight.
35:09We showered and then she fell down.
35:11That's what you told me last night.
35:13Unless they're falling from a ten-story building, somebody's not gonna get a lacerated spleen or liver and fractures and
35:21broken ribs.
35:23If I stand up and fall down right now, I'm not gonna sustain those types of injuries.
35:27You provided no assistance whatsoever in trying to clarify what happened with Nicole, okay?
35:35You say you're a lumber, but your actions say something different.
35:41I'm trying to get some information.
35:43Can we camera over?
35:44Simple, please.
35:45What was, what was difficult to understand?
35:48A lot of things are difficult to understand.
35:51Alright, I'm not gonna keep going.
35:53You're bouncing around.
35:54I'm not bouncing around.
35:56I'm confused.
35:58Can you get your piece of paper and write something for me?
36:00Nope.
36:01Here, let me get your piece of paper and write something, please.
36:04Nope.
36:05I want you to think about it, please.
36:08What do you want me to write?
36:10I don't know.
36:11I was gonna have to take a second to think about it.
36:15Okay.
36:16You got, it's 10, it's 10-19 right now.
36:21You got, I'm sorry, it's 10-20.
36:23You got the 10-25 to start making sense.
36:26Or else this interview's done.
36:34I've been with Nicole for a little over 10 years.
36:37I cannot make sense of what is going on myself.
36:42Why can't you-
36:43Especially in five minutes.
36:44Why can't you make sense of what's going on?
36:47Because Nicole has lied to me and manipulated me and made me forget portions of my life.
37:00I was gonna try to help you.
37:02So, you're saying that she manipulated you and lied to you, is that when you kick her ass?
37:12Or did she kick her ass?
37:13I think-
37:14I think you-
37:14Or did she kick her ass?
37:15Because I will be asking-
37:17You can say whatever you want to say.
37:19Okay.
37:19Her injuries tell a different story.
37:22Her injuries speak volumes.
37:24Okay.
37:25But I don't understand what she meant by it.
37:26Well, you don't seem to understand much of anything.
37:29You're not gonna control this interview like you've controlled Nicole.
37:36Sir, I have been as honored to you as I can.
37:39Yes, I have.
37:40I told you I can't even understand 10 years of my life.
37:43How do I make you understand it in five minutes?
37:45I don't understand 10 years of my life.
37:48How do I make you understand it in five minutes?
37:51I'm done talking to you.
37:52I'm done.
37:52I'm done.
38:07I'm done.
38:09New developments now.
38:11A woman violently beaten to death.
38:13Deputies believe her killer is the one who actually called for help.
38:17A woman is now dead and police believe this man, Thomas Grayley Jr.
38:21had something to do with it.
38:23Grayley is now sitting in the county jail.
38:25He was in court on Wednesday and is facing felonious assault charges.
38:29Murder charges will probably be coming next for him.
38:38Hello, this is a free call from...
38:41Thomas Grayley.
38:42An incarcerated individual at Ashtabula County Jail.
38:45This call is subject to recording and monitoring.
38:52How are you?
38:54They offered me 30 to life.
38:55Oh, did they?
38:56I'd be 68 years old after 30 years.
39:00So you're going to trial then, right?
39:02That's why some of the investigators are starting to investigate.
39:05All I'm going to say is you don't want them digging through your stuff.
39:10I don't know what you're talking about.
39:12There's some things in there that nobody should see.
39:16Like what?
39:17Stuff that you wrote.
39:20Just not good stuff.
39:22Everybody clearly knows that I put my hands on Nikki.
39:25But nothing says that I beat the shit out of her.
39:29You're not stupid.
39:31Okay, well, they're going there.
39:34Like it or not, they're going there.
39:36So I guess you need to clean.
39:41They only planned a certain amount of time to prosecute you to bring me to trial.
39:45But they're going there.
39:47So whatever you're so worried about, everybody can get it the f*** on.
39:51Yeah, well, there's a burn call there.
39:54We'll have a big fire.
40:12To everyone, here it is for the world to see.
40:18I have done s*** that's no good.
40:26Not a f***ing bit.
40:28You see, I touched Nicole a little bit with some cigarettes.
40:32Because I was trying to get Nicole to answer some basic questions about what's going on here.
40:40And she wouldn't say nothing to me.
40:43And I try to talk to her.
40:46And I try to love her.
40:48And I try to explain it.
40:50I just want to be 100% transparent.
40:53Because I think she's trying to set me the f*** up.
40:57That even though she looks like she does,
41:00I'm trying to explain to her that there's a judgement coming.
41:06And if she thinks this is bad,
41:08then wait until she gets to judgement.
41:13Because I want to make it very f***ing clear.
41:16This is my boat.
41:18And I run this f***.
41:20And I just want to make it clear that I don't beat on Nicole.
41:23I don't beat on Nicole at all.
41:26I teach Nicole hard lessons out of love.
41:45I appreciate you meeting with me.
41:48I appreciate you meeting with us.
41:50So my whole goal of all this is to try to keep you informed as much as I can.
41:55If there's anything you want to talk about, feel free.
41:58I haven't seen Nicole for five years, or the kids.
42:02They were coming around and visiting us.
42:05And you know, we were seeing the kids.
42:07And then our son became a police officer.
42:10Tom paid police officers.
42:12So they weren't allowed to come around us anymore.
42:15You gotta understand, we never abandoned our daughter.
42:18I think he brainwashed her and the kids.
42:21The kids for sure.
42:22Now do you talk to this monster?
42:24Is there any way that he can find out that we have the kids,
42:28that they're going to grow up to be police officers?
42:30I want him to know that because anything will eat him more than anything in that jail.
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