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Late Night with Seth Meyers - Season 13 - Episode 02: Karl-Anthony Towns, Shawn Levy, Andrew Ross Sorkin
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00:14To be continued...
00:30We hope you're doing well.
00:32And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news
00:34in a post today on Truth Social.
00:36President Trump said, quote,
00:38The USA markets just hit another all-time high, all of them.
00:41Thank you, Mr. Tariff.
00:43Oh, no.
00:44Does he think the tariffs are people?
00:47I just had dinner with Dave and Julie Tariff.
00:50Very nice. They paid.
00:51They paid for everything.
00:54In a new interview, President Trump said that Venezuela
00:56will not have new elections in the next 30 days.
00:59And added, quote,
01:00We have to fix the country first.
01:02I don't know.
01:03I think it's going to take longer than 30 days
01:05to build them a new ballroom.
01:09According to a new poll, 44% of Republicans
01:11would support amending the Constitution
01:13to allow President Trump to seek a third term,
01:16while the other 56% said,
01:18He's only on his second term?
01:22While speaking today to House Republicans,
01:24President Trump said that he wouldn't say
01:26that he wants to cancel the election because, quote,
01:28The fake news will say he's a dictator.
01:31Well, if you cancel the elections,
01:32it won't be fake news.
01:33At that point, the dictionary will call you a dictator.
01:38President Trump also told House Republicans
01:40they have to win the midterms because, quote,
01:43If we don't win the midterms,
01:44they'll find a reason to impeach me.
01:46Of course, the challenge isn't finding one.
01:48It's picking one.
01:51After Minnesota Governor Tim Walz announced yesterday
01:54that he will not run for reelection,
01:55President Trump accused Walz of stealing taxpayer dollars.
01:59Him? Yeah.
02:01That must be how he gets all those fancy clothes.
02:04The only thing this man is stealing
02:06is the blue ribbon at the county fair.
02:09Today was the fifth anniversary
02:11of the January 6th Capitol attack.
02:13This news first reported by the cake
02:15in Fox News' break room.
02:21In a post yesterday on Truth Social,
02:23President Trump repeated his recommendation
02:25to pregnant women to avoid taking Tylenol.
02:28All right, well, if you don't want people taking Tylenol,
02:30just stop talking.
02:34The Corporation for Public Broadcasting
02:36voted yesterday to dissolve itself,
02:38which will cut off a major funding source for NPR, PBS,
02:42and hundreds of local radio and TV stations.
02:44Things are so bad that Oscar had to get roommates.
02:52I never quite know what we're going to expect
02:53when we make a bad-news joke about Sesame Street.
02:58New York's MTA recently reported that,
03:01since the start of Manhattan's congestion pricing program,
03:04air pollution in Midtown has decreased by 22%,
03:06and it's great because now you can really smell the urine.
03:12And finally, The Wall Street Journal recently published
03:15a profile on the Detroit Ford Motors employee,
03:18who came up with the idea to put an arrow
03:20on the dashboard of a car,
03:21indicating which side the tank is on.
03:23Must be a nice feeling to know you've accomplished more
03:26than the President of the United States.
03:28And that was a monologue, everybody.
03:31He's got a great show for tonight.
03:33He's an NBA All-Star, the 2016 Rookie of the Year.
03:38He recently helped lead the New York Knicks
03:40to winning their first NBA Cup championship.
03:42Carl Anthony Towns is on the show.
03:45So happy Carl's here.
03:47He's a multi-talented producer, director, and writer,
03:51whose movies include Deadpool and Wolverine, Free Guy,
03:54as well as The Night at the Museum franchise.
03:56He's an executive producer and director of the Netflix
03:59Smash A Stranger Things.
04:01Sean Levy is here.
04:03Everybody gets to talk to him about his fantastic show.
04:07He's the co-host of CNBC's Squawk Box,
04:11an award-winning journalist whose book,
04:141929 Inside the Greatest Crash in Wall Street History
04:17and How It Shattered a Nation,
04:19is a number-one New York Times bestseller.
04:21Andrew Ross Sorkin is also joining us.
04:25Family Chips, we had a great conversation with Jim James.
04:29Do give that a listen wherever you get your podcasts.
04:32You guys, here at Late Night, every night,
04:35I deliver a monologue.
04:36It is written by a diverse team of writers.
04:39As a result, a lot of jokes come across my desk
04:41that, due to my being a straight, white male,
04:44would be difficult for me to deliver.
04:46But we don't think that should stop you from enjoying them,
04:49so we'd like to share them with you now
04:51in a segment called Joke Seth Can't Tell.
04:57Hey, everybody.
04:58These are two of our writers, Amber and Jenny.
05:01I'm black.
05:02And I'm gay.
05:02And we're both women.
05:03And I'm not.
05:04So here's how it works.
05:05I'll read the setups for these jokes,
05:08and Amber and Jenny will read the punchlines.
05:10So here it goes.
05:11A woman recently proposed to her girlfriend
05:14during a professional women's hockey game.
05:17Experts are calling it the gayest sentence ever said.
05:21The Washington Post recently ran an op-ed titled,
05:24There are two black Americas.
05:26Said black people, take me to the other one.
05:30What are they doing in the other black America?
05:33The electric slide.
05:34Oh, all right.
05:35A library recently held a reading to celebrate Emily Dickinson's birthday.
05:40It included one of her most famous poems.
05:44Hope is the thing with feathers.
05:46Also, I'm gay.
05:49A popular fast food chain will test a new chicken and waffle sandwich.
05:54That's cultural appropriation, said black people going through the drive-thru.
05:59Have you tried it yet?
06:01No, but it better be good because if not, I will still be eating it.
06:05Okay.
06:06Author Kristen Arnett recently released a novel about a lesbian clown.
06:11A lesbian clown is like a regular clown, but with uglier shoes.
06:16Jenny, what's the hardest part about being a lesbian clown?
06:19Learning to use makeup.
06:25Today was the 164th anniversary of Jefferson Davis being elected the president of the Confederacy.
06:31So if you'd like to learn more about a racist president, pick up today's newspaper.
06:38Two lesbian grandmas recently went viral on TikTok.
06:42TikTok is also what lesbians say on a first date.
06:45TikTok, we get married or what?
06:49Producers in Hollywood recently released the annual blacklist.
06:52We also have a blacklist, said police.
06:59What was that?
07:00True?
07:03Pornhub announced that there has been a considerable
07:06increase in searches for the term lesbian MILF.
07:09A lesbian MILF is like a straight MILF, except she doesn't have time to you because she's
07:13running the PTA.
07:19Scientists have found a black hole that has been blasting winds at 130 miles per hour.
07:25I said, excuse me.
07:33Mom's going to be so bad.
07:36Hey, Seth, why don't you tell me?
07:38Oh, no, I could not, absolutely.
07:40Come on, just worry.
07:40No, I just feel like if I tell when it will not end well.
07:43Oh, come on, do it.
07:43All right, all right, all right.
07:45Out.com recently published a queer guide to starting over abroad.
07:49You had me at abroad.
07:52Seth, no!
07:54Oh, God.
07:55Shame.
07:56Yeah, you know what? That was really bad.
07:57Yeah.
07:58I think I'm going to win you back. Can I try one more?
08:00Please, please.
08:00Okay, and you promise it's fine?
08:02Yes.
08:03Carbange to do whatever I feel is best.
08:05You will win us back, guaranteed.
08:07All right. Thank you, Amber.
08:08And thank you, Jenny.
08:10You're welcome.
08:10For your trust.
08:11Uh-huh.
08:13The U.S. Mint recently ended production of The Penny,
08:16said black people, so then how are we supposed to tip?
08:21Oh, my God!
08:23I'll tear you!
08:24Seth, how could you do it?!
08:25You laughed at it in rehearsal!
08:27I didn't know!
08:27Don't act like you haven't heard it before!
08:29And with your idea to make me do this,
08:31you guys should be ashamed of yourself.
08:32You guys, black women and lesbians are liars.
08:38We'll be right back with Karl-Anthony Towns.
08:52Our first guest tonight is a five-time NBA All-Star
08:56and the 2016 Rookie of the Year he recently helped lead.
08:59The New York Knicks to winning their first
09:01NBA Cup championship.
09:03Please welcome to the show, Karl-Anthony Towns, everybody!
09:08Thewed
09:09Whoa-oh!
09:21How are ya, Cash?
09:22I'm good, man, I'm good!
09:23Drilled to see you!
09:24Yes, yes!
09:25Thank you, you came straight from practice.
09:26I did, I did, I did.
09:28By the way, this is wonderful.
09:29Marty Supreme.
09:31You're shouting out...
09:33This is kind of a shout out to Timothee Chalamet
09:36who is really one of our foremost Knick fans in the city.
09:38Literally, literally.
09:39Yeah, shout-out to my brother, man.
09:41He's doing an amazing job, and I'm happy to see the critics
09:44and everyone really appreciating what he's doing.
09:46When you won the NBA Cup Championship,
09:48you actually posted that you actually personally FaceTimed
09:51with some of our...
09:52I did, I did.
09:53Ben Stiller seems very happy here.
09:55Yes, yes, yes. Look at that.
09:56And there's Marty Scream himself.
10:00Yes, look at him. There we go.
10:01How much when you...
10:02You know, again, these are some of the familiar faces.
10:04Tracy Morgan's another one, Edie Falco.
10:07Yes, yes.
10:07Do you ever make eye contact during the game?
10:10Give him a little nod?
10:11I think they make it themselves known in the game, you know?
10:15So, but no, we have such great support here.
10:18I mean, the fans are amazing, and, you know,
10:20I think with the NBA Cup happening and us finding a way to win
10:23and doing a lot of amazing things right now,
10:26it's a special time to be a Knicks fan.
10:28You started your career, obviously, in Minnesota,
10:30and, you know, it's a huge transition for anybody
10:32who lives in Minnesota to come to New York.
10:36I've been told.
10:37You grew up in New Jersey, so you're, you know,
10:39from the East Coast, but how was that transition to when,
10:42you know, obviously, you played in Madison Square Garden,
10:44but what's it like having home games in that stadium?
10:46Like you said, I mean, it's different when you're a visitor
10:48and you're the home guy.
10:49I've been used to coming to MSG and being booed,
10:51so this is the first time that I'm getting cheered for,
10:55and it's been amazing.
10:56Last year was an amazing season for us,
10:58and obviously this year the fans expect even more,
11:00so we're trying to exceed their expectations.
11:03You guys won on Christmas Day.
11:05Yes.
11:05That was not the best thing that happened to you on Christmas Day.
11:07No.
11:08You went straight from the game, and congratulations, Kat.
11:11I appreciate it.
11:12You got engaged.
11:12Yes.
11:13There you are.
11:16Yeah.
11:19Yeah.
11:20I don't know if they're cheering for me or for her.
11:22I feel like everyone's a bigger fan of her.
11:24Yeah, but it's pretty amazing.
11:25I mean, quite a vantage point.
11:26Did she have any expectation that was coming?
11:28How much of a surprise was it?
11:29It was a surprise.
11:30It was a surprise.
11:31Yeah, we've been dating for five and a half years
11:33up to that point, and yeah, I know,
11:35in Hollywood that doesn't last long.
11:37So we found a way.
11:40We found a way five and a half years,
11:42ebbs and flows of a relationship,
11:43as anyone would know,
11:44and I think the most important thing,
11:47and we had this conversation the other day,
11:49is that we always chose each other.
11:51Yeah.
11:51You know, through the bad and the good,
11:53we always found ourselves choosing each other,
11:55and I think that makes for a strong bond,
11:57a strong relationship,
11:58and I wanted her to have a ring
12:00that shows that bond and relationship
12:02that we've built,
12:02and yeah, I want everyone to know she's mine.
12:06Was she happy with the ring?
12:09Yes.
12:10Okay, good.
12:10She was ecstatic.
12:11Okay, that's right.
12:11I think I did well.
12:13Okay, that's really good.
12:13Well done.
12:14Her mom approved.
12:15That's the most important thing.
12:16Yeah.
12:16I didn't even risk it.
12:18I said to my wife,
12:18like, hypothetically,
12:19what would you want it to look like?
12:22We had a wonderful night together recently
12:25with Fanatics.
12:27There was a release of the new Topps basketball cards.
12:30Yes, yes.
12:30Topps got the rights back to basketball.
12:31I brought your kids some in the back, too.
12:32Oh, did you?
12:33That's fantastic.
12:33Well, you actually, my son,
12:35both of my sons came to this event,
12:36and here's a photo of you and Axel.
12:38Look at that.
12:39That's my son, Axel.
12:40That's you.
12:41You're obviously immediately
12:42their favorite player in the NBA
12:44for how kind you were.
12:45But it was an interesting night
12:46because we went to this event.
12:49There was this little green room.
12:50It was the NBA store.
12:52The green room was the size of me.
12:53It was very small.
12:54Yeah, yeah.
12:55And there was a lot of boxes of cards
12:56stacked up, and you're a big...
12:58You love cards.
12:59I love cards.
13:00The good people of Fanatics
13:01bought a lot of boxes of cards.
13:03They were giving you cards, me cards.
13:05End of the night,
13:05I'm grabbing all the bags.
13:06Yeah.
13:07I see a couple of boxes
13:08of soccer cards.
13:09And I'm like, oh, you know,
13:10I feel like these are for us.
13:11Yeah.
13:12And I took them home,
13:14and they were not for me.
13:17And we had exchanged numbers,
13:19and even when we exchanged numbers,
13:21I was like,
13:22I wonder if we're ever going to have
13:23a reason to text each other.
13:24And then, like, an hour after we met,
13:25you were like,
13:25did you steal my cards?
13:30I didn't say steal.
13:32I thought they were misplaced.
13:35You did say LMAO,
13:37thank God.
13:38I was more worried
13:39someone came in our green room
13:40and stole our cards
13:41and my hats.
13:43Well, I did use the word steal,
13:44then.
13:44Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:45I take that back.
13:46And then I did say
13:47that I've been telling people
13:48what's cat like in person
13:49he's so easy to steal from.
13:52That's not good in New York.
13:54Yeah, yeah.
13:56But you actually worked
13:57in a card store
13:58when you were a kid
13:59in high school.
13:59Yeah.
14:00You have a wonderful
14:01Big Bodega card.
14:02Yes.
14:02One of my favorite
14:03Instagram channels.
14:04I appreciate it.
14:05But anyway,
14:06I said,
14:06hey, I'll get the cards
14:07to you on,
14:07it was a Thursday night.
14:08I go,
14:08I'll get them to you.
14:09I remember, yes.
14:10I was like,
14:10I can get them to you
14:10on Monday.
14:11This is how bad it got.
14:12This is how bad
14:13our card collection
14:14was.
14:14Yeah, I was like,
14:15I'll get them to you
14:15on Monday.
14:16You're like,
14:16actually,
14:16I'm going to send
14:17somebody now.
14:19I will never forget it.
14:20He was like,
14:21I got a flight.
14:21I was like,
14:22well, don't worry,
14:22he'll be there
14:23before the flight.
14:23We'll go get the cards.
14:25You did not,
14:25you were like,
14:26you're trustworthy,
14:26but I am going
14:27to get them now.
14:29But then I just want
14:29to speak to the kind
14:31of guy you are
14:31because you didn't
14:32just send somebody
14:32to get the cards.
14:33You were also like,
14:33I'm going to bring
14:34something for your kids.
14:35What size shoe are you?
14:37Oh, size 20.
14:38Size 20.
14:39Yeah.
14:39Wow.
14:40If you want to know
14:40what a...
14:41I thought it was
14:42reasonable for me,
14:44but all right.
14:44If you want to know
14:45what a size 20 shoe
14:46looks like,
14:47this is what it looks
14:47like when my children.
14:51Autographed shoes.
14:51And you know,
14:52it's so funny,
14:52they put them
14:53on the windowsill
14:54and it's like,
14:55when I put the curtains
14:56up in the morning,
14:57I'm like,
14:57it's still dark in here.
14:58That's how big
14:59your shoes are.
15:01I thought it was
15:02the highest.
15:03Tell people
15:03don't come in here.
15:05So you grew up
15:06in New Jersey.
15:07You were a Philadelphia
15:08sports fan.
15:09Is that right?
15:09Yes, I was an Eagles fan.
15:10Eagles fan.
15:11Eagles fan.
15:13I'm with my Yankees
15:14all the time.
15:16Do you get excited
15:18about being a sports fan
15:19still, even as being
15:20a professional athlete?
15:21Yeah, no, I do.
15:21I do.
15:21I mean, not many times
15:22in my life,
15:23I get to be a fan
15:24of something.
15:25I'm usually always
15:25the one that's
15:26entertaining and doing
15:27the basketball part
15:28and the sports part.
15:29But yeah,
15:30my Eagles looking
15:32to be back-to-back
15:32hopefully this year.
15:33Do you watch it
15:35like a fan?
15:35Do you get nervous?
15:36Do you get excited?
15:37Oh, no, yeah.
15:39Me, JV,
15:40Deuce McBride
15:41are big Eagles fans.
15:42So we get stressed out
15:44on those games.
15:45That's really good.
15:46What is your stress level
15:47before games
15:48when you're playing?
15:48I mean,
15:49you've been at this
15:50for a while now.
15:51Honestly,
15:52I get excited.
15:53I love competition.
15:55I love going out there
15:55to play basketball.
15:56But it's just really exciting
15:58every time I get
15:59to put the jersey on.
15:59I think now in my stage
16:00of my career,
16:01I'm still,
16:02I'm just entering
16:03my prime and everything
16:04and I'm more understanding
16:06the importance of every game
16:07and the value
16:08that comes with it
16:09because you never know
16:10how much longer
16:10you're going to be doing this.
16:11You never know
16:11what God has planned.
16:12So I just go out there
16:13and enjoy every moment I get.
16:14It's all-star voting right now.
16:16Do you want to make a case
16:17for yourself
16:17or do you want me to do it?
16:18I let the fans pick.
16:19You let the fans pick?
16:22All I want to keep doing
16:23is impact and winning
16:24and finding ways
16:24to win here in New York.
16:25You've obviously,
16:26like you said,
16:26you've been at this a long time.
16:27You played before the NBA.
16:29Obviously,
16:29you were a kid
16:30who played basketball.
16:31Is it true that
16:32due to your size,
16:34parents on the other team
16:35thought that you were
16:36lying about your age?
16:37Oh, yes.
16:38Absolutely.
16:39I almost felt like
16:41it was like
16:41when you leave the house,
16:42you would be like,
16:42all right,
16:42make sure you got your shoes.
16:43You know, kids,
16:44we're always going to forget
16:45the shoes.
16:45Make sure you got your shoes,
16:46your jersey for the game
16:47and the birth certificate.
16:50If you got those three things,
16:51I'm playing today.
16:53Wow.
16:53And so,
16:54how often did your coach
16:55have to break out
16:56the birth certificate?
16:57Really?
16:57A lot.
16:58Yeah.
16:58I mean,
16:59it is very funny
17:00that if you were
17:01so much taller,
17:02the idea is even funnier
17:03that you would try
17:04to get away with it.
17:04Yeah, no, right?
17:05Imagine.
17:06Yeah.
17:06Because obviously,
17:07this is not your age group.
17:09I was lucky, though.
17:10My dad always told me
17:11that for me to be my best,
17:12I had to go against the best.
17:13So I actually ended up
17:14playing like three age groups up.
17:16So it was like
17:16a lot of times
17:17I didn't need it.
17:18Well, he obviously
17:19made a good choice there.
17:21Congratulations on everything.
17:22Good luck for the rest of the season.
17:24And thank you so much.
17:25Thank you so much.
17:26Appreciate it.
17:27More stars.
17:28Charlie Anthony Towns, everybody.
17:29We'll be right back
17:30with Sean Levy.
17:43Welcome back, everybody.
17:44Our next guest
17:45is an Academy Award
17:46and Emmy-nominated producer,
17:48director, and writer
17:49whose movies include
17:50Deadpool and Wolverine,
17:52Free Guy,
17:53and The Night at the Museum franchise.
17:54He's an executive producer
17:56and director of Stranger Things,
17:58which just streamed
17:58its serious finale
17:59and is available now
18:00in its entirety on Netflix.
18:02Let's take a look.
18:04Stop!
18:04I'm serious.
18:05It's not safe.
18:06You're going to fall.
18:07It's unstable.
18:07I got it already, okay?
18:09No, don't!
18:09Stop!
18:10Being an ass!
18:11I'm not being an ass!
18:12I'm trying to get to that man!
18:13You always try to get yourself killed
18:15and I can't let it happen again.
18:16Stop being so selfish, please.
18:18If you go on there,
18:19you're going to die
18:20and I can't deal with it again.
18:21You can't die
18:22because I can't deal with it again.
18:23Don't let it happen again.
18:25Please.
18:26Please don't let it happen again.
18:27I'm sorry, not you.
18:30I'm sorry.
18:31Please welcome to the show
18:33my friend Sean Levy, everybody!
18:47Hello, Sean!
18:49What an exciting time to have you.
18:52It was also,
18:53I was so fortunate backstage.
18:54I met your oldest daughter
18:55and your wife
18:56and it's lovely
18:57to see them as well.
18:58It is, but can I just,
19:00I have to start by saying
19:01that you've,
19:02without knowing it,
19:03you've become a bit
19:04of a marital problem for me.
19:06Okay, okay.
19:07Because,
19:08so I've been with my wife
19:09for 30 years,
19:10but she is low-key obsessed
19:11with you and your show.
19:12I'm sure she's not alone.
19:14Right?
19:14Yeah.
19:14Um, and so like,
19:16literally,
19:17it's like,
19:17I cannot get Serena
19:19to come to bed
19:20without her Sethi first.
19:21Wow.
19:22She's like,
19:22no, no, no,
19:23I need my Sethi.
19:24Wow.
19:24And so you didn't even know
19:25you're like the third prong
19:27in this throuple.
19:28I mean,
19:28so exciting.
19:29I mean,
19:30I thought,
19:30open marriage.
19:31I thought I would have
19:32to do so much work
19:33to be in a throuple,
19:34and now...
19:35This is like,
19:35it's low maintenance,
19:37low impact.
19:37Well,
19:38I will say,
19:39my wife is a huge
19:41Stranger Things fan
19:42and never watches this show,
19:44so I do feel like it evens out.
19:47It's almost like
19:48a platonic couple swap.
19:50That sounds great.
19:51I also,
19:51I feel like we do,
19:52we have something in common,
19:54which is,
19:55we both kind of started
19:56thinking maybe we'd be actors
19:58in this business,
19:58and this is one year early.
20:01Oh, boy.
20:02Is it your first?
20:03That is basically
20:04my first real gig.
20:05You were on an episode
20:06of 21 Jump Street,
20:08which,
20:09before the younger viewers,
20:10it was a Jonah Hill film.
20:11I was going to say,
20:12for the younger viewers,
20:13there was this
20:13super popular TV show.
20:15Yeah,
20:15and that's Johnny Depp
20:16right there,
20:17just to give you an idea.
20:18But this was actually,
20:18this was the craziest,
20:20but very memorable
20:21welcome to the business
20:23kind of moment,
20:24because I was like 21,
20:26I was fresh out of college,
20:27and I got the guest spot
20:29in the spring break episode,
20:30so I go to Miami,
20:31and I'm sitting in this car
20:33because it's going to be
20:33a drive-and-talk scene,
20:35and Johnny Depp gets in the car,
20:37and I am, like, too eager,
20:39kind of like I am right now,
20:42but younger.
20:43Yeah.
20:43And I was like...
20:44Eager when you're already
20:45successful is fine.
20:47Eager before you've done anything.
20:48Yeah, right, but it's not a great look
20:49when you've achieved nothing.
20:50Yeah.
20:51And I was like,
20:52hello, Mr. Depp,
20:53I'm Sean Levy
20:53from Montreal, Canada.
20:55Like, I mean, truly...
20:57Oh, do we have
20:57some Canadians in the house?
20:59Okay, thank you.
21:00Guys, that just made me
21:01less nervous.
21:03And I was like,
21:04nice to meet you.
21:05I'm thrilled to be where...
21:06And he's like,
21:07you like being a puppet?
21:09Because what I didn't know
21:10is at this point,
21:11all Johnny Depp wanted to do
21:12was go start his
21:13huge movie career.
21:14Yes, of course.
21:15And I was like,
21:16I'm sorry, Mr. Depp.
21:17He's like,
21:18welcome to the puppet show, kid.
21:20Dance, puppet.
21:22Dance.
21:22Like, full on,
21:24with, like,
21:24the marionette hands
21:25and everything.
21:26And I've never seen
21:27Johnny Depp since.
21:28Yeah.
21:28That was like...
21:29I don't know
21:31that that was the reason.
21:32Yeah.
21:32But it definitely was
21:34this very kind of
21:35ominous welcome
21:36to the business.
21:38I mean,
21:38I would be so happy
21:39if you saw him again
21:40after all these years.
21:41And he's like,
21:42puppet?
21:43Yeah.
21:44I feel like we worked
21:45together on a puppet show.
21:46Then I would really feel
21:47like I've achieved something.
21:48You have achieved something.
21:49Congratulations and everything.
21:50But specifically,
21:51Stranger Things,
21:53it just must be so rewarding
21:54to have had this show
21:55that started in 2016
21:57or first started airing.
21:58And do you feel like...
21:59I mean, obviously,
22:00I feel like the fans feel
22:01as though you nailed the landing.
22:03Do you feel the same?
22:04I was shooting
22:05my latest movie in London
22:07when I first watched
22:08the first cut
22:08of the finale episode.
22:09And I was a wreck.
22:11Like, sort of like
22:12the videos we now see
22:13all over the internet
22:14of people weeping openly.
22:15That was me.
22:16Yeah.
22:16Even though I was
22:17in the initial pitch.
22:18I had read every draft.
22:20I had seen the dailies.
22:21But seeing it all
22:22come together,
22:23I was going to text
22:24the Duffers,
22:25who I've been with
22:25for a decade making this show.
22:27But I FaceTimed them.
22:28And they were driving.
22:29And I couldn't even get
22:30through a sentence
22:31without sobbing.
22:32It was deeply humiliating.
22:34Well, the one thing
22:35that is interesting
22:36is even though you can,
22:37you know, read the scripts
22:38and everything,
22:39like, and I think
22:39it's the way we all feel,
22:40is like these kids
22:41just, like, grew up
22:42while it was happening.
22:43So we also,
22:44I feel like,
22:45it's the passage of time
22:46is very unique.
22:48It also, like,
22:49no matter how old you are,
22:51images like this
22:52make us all weep
22:53at the passage of time.
22:54Yeah.
22:55Right?
22:55Because like that,
22:56like, you're very proud
22:57of these kids,
22:58but you miss
22:59when they're, like, younger.
23:00But can I say this?
23:01They were sweet,
23:03authentic kids
23:04when we found them
23:05at 12 years old.
23:06And they're still
23:07sweet, authentic
23:08young adults.
23:09Yeah.
23:09It's really,
23:10it was a magical thing.
23:11And as magic
23:13as they were individually,
23:14the combination of them,
23:16which was really evident
23:17in that very first episode
23:20and the very first season
23:21in that basement,
23:22that D&D game
23:23in the basement,
23:24which is where it started,
23:25is of course,
23:26by the way,
23:26have you all seen it?
23:27Because I don't want to
23:28spoil it.
23:30Like, what if,
23:31what if this whole appearance
23:33became like a massive
23:35spoiler contribution?
23:35I know, but by the way,
23:36I love that you think
23:37a spoiler is
23:37it starts in a basement.
23:39No, but I was about
23:40to allude to the ending
23:41and the fact that
23:42it also ends.
23:43So you've done,
23:43you've done Marvel stuff
23:45as well.
23:45You must understand
23:47the idea of spoilers
23:48more than most people.
23:50I do, but I feel like
23:51I really needed that lesson
23:53more than an average human
23:54because I have a,
23:55just a big mouth
23:57and I love to talk
23:58and I love to kind of
23:59tell people things.
24:00But between Stranger Things
24:02for 10 years
24:03and Deadpool and Wolverine
24:04and now this Star Wars movie
24:05that I'm making,
24:06Yeah, you just said,
24:06that was when you say
24:07you were in London
24:07shooting a movie,
24:08it was a Star Wars movie
24:10Oh yes, this part,
24:11this part was,
24:13although I feel like
24:14this particular picture
24:16that I took
24:17was on the Mediterranean
24:18off of Sardinia
24:20and, but that picture
24:21is a good reminder
24:22of why I just,
24:24just virulently avoided
24:26pictures with Ryan Gosling
24:28because no matter
24:29how good you feel
24:30about yourself,
24:31like don't be in a picture
24:33with Ryan Gosling
24:33because you will feel worse.
24:35Yeah.
24:36Right?
24:36Like, like,
24:37what?
24:37Yeah, there's no weather
24:39that his hair
24:40doesn't look even better.
24:41Do you know what I'm saying?
24:41It's like,
24:42I mean,
24:42I think this kid's mad at you.
24:44He's like,
24:44why am I in this?
24:45He looks pissed off.
24:46Yeah.
24:46Yeah.
24:47You,
24:48we were talking about
24:48the show starting in 2016,
24:50Stranger Things.
24:51Did you,
24:51when did you realize
24:52that it had resonated
24:54with an audience in a way?
24:55Because again,
24:56it's kind of crazy.
24:57You've been in a world
24:57with IP as well, right?
24:58Where you're like,
24:59this came from nowhere.
25:00This came from
25:00the Duffer Brothers.
25:01And this was,
25:02this was a script
25:03that I read in 2014.
25:06Yeah.
25:06And really nobody
25:07was interested
25:08because the rule back then
25:09was you don't make a show
25:10with kids that isn't for kids.
25:11Right.
25:12And that opening weekend,
25:13I think it was July of 2016.
25:16At that point,
25:17Netflix proudly
25:17didn't share viewership data.
25:20So I remember
25:20that it was literally
25:21like online
25:22and social media
25:23and I called up Matt and Ross
25:25and I was like,
25:25guys,
25:26a lot of people
25:27seem to be talking
25:28about our show.
25:29And it was like
25:29the next day.
25:30And that was my first sense
25:32of, oh,
25:33this is,
25:33this is something unique.
25:35And then it just grew
25:36from there over a decade
25:38and not just in North America,
25:40but kind of shockingly everywhere.
25:42Did, uh,
25:43I,
25:43I heard that the Duffer Brothers
25:45nickname for you
25:46was the Warlock.
25:47This is true.
25:48Which couldn't be negative
25:50or positive,
25:50but I think they used it
25:52in a positive way.
25:53No, they did.
25:53And I, I mean,
25:54I will confess,
25:55I don't know if it's just me,
25:56but I think we all
25:57really wish we had a nickname.
25:59Like, I remember
25:59when I was young,
26:00I was like,
26:01call me Spike.
26:02Yeah.
26:02Right?
26:03And like,
26:03but, or like,
26:04I was a fast runner.
26:05So I was like,
26:06they call me Flash.
26:07But the truth is like,
26:08nobody called me Spike
26:09or the Flash.
26:11Um, so,
26:12but then the most amazing
26:13thing happened,
26:14like in the middle
26:15of my life
26:15is I got an organically
26:16earned nickname.
26:18Um,
26:19we were making
26:20season one of the show
26:22and there was a scene
26:23where Eleven levitates
26:24the Millennium Falcon.
26:25Yes.
26:26And, you know,
26:26you send,
26:27you tell Netflix
26:28we need permission
26:28and they came back
26:29and said,
26:30no, no permission.
26:31Right.
26:31The answer's no.
26:31You gotta have her
26:32levitate something else.
26:33And, uh,
26:34and Matt and Ross
26:35called me
26:35and they're like,
26:36do you think
26:36there's any way
26:37you could get
26:38that answer to change?
26:39And so I,
26:40at that point,
26:41I did not know
26:42Kathleen Kennedy.
26:43I reached out.
26:44She was running Lucasfilm
26:45and I basically begged
26:46and the no became a yes.
26:49And they were like,
26:50well, okay.
26:50And then like a few months later
26:52we wanted to use
26:52Michael Jackson's Thriller
26:54in our trailer.
26:55And the answer was
26:56a hard pass
26:57from Michael Jackson's date.
26:58And the Duffers called me
27:00and so I just had this run
27:02of weird menial tasks
27:05where I turned a no
27:06into a yes
27:07and they started
27:08calling me Warlock
27:09and it's still
27:10what they call me.
27:10I mean,
27:11it's a really,
27:11one,
27:12to get a late in life nickname
27:13and two,
27:14to get it from the Duffer brothers
27:15who are like great
27:16at like building lore.
27:17You know what?
27:18I never thought of it that way.
27:20And,
27:20and it's even better
27:21than Spike or The Flash.
27:23Yeah.
27:23So I feel like I just,
27:25I want it.
27:25Yeah,
27:26Spike and The Flash
27:26were like famously
27:27already taken.
27:28Although if that,
27:29if that was a TV show,
27:30I would love to watch
27:31Spike and The Flash.
27:32By the way,
27:32not all the kids aged well.
27:34I can't remember
27:35what they looked like
27:35in the first season.
27:36Yeah,
27:36I know.
27:39This is the photo
27:39I wanted to show.
27:40What other gifts
27:41do you have to share there?
27:42Just,
27:42well this,
27:43I wanted to show
27:43a picture of you
27:44and your beautiful family.
27:45So this was
27:46a walk of fame,
27:47the Canadian walk of fame.
27:49So this one here,
27:50that's the one
27:50who loves her,
27:51Sethi.
27:51Yep,
27:51right.
27:52And the other four
27:53are my four daughters.
27:54And yeah,
27:55there's a Canada walk of fame
27:57and they asked
27:58if they could
27:58honor me with a star
28:00on the walk of fame.
28:01And it was a fun night,
28:03but the best part
28:04is that they had
28:05my daughters
28:06present me
28:07with the award.
28:07And so,
28:08I mean,
28:08I think any of us
28:09who are parents,
28:10like all we want to do
28:11is earn a connection
28:14and the respect
28:15of our kids.
28:16Yeah.
28:16And I just want
28:17to keep earning it
28:18for the rest of my life
28:19and never bitterly
28:21disappoint them.
28:22All right,
28:22well,
28:22I think you're off
28:23to a decent start.
28:25So far,
28:25so good.
28:25Thank you so much
28:26for being here.
28:27Congrats on the show.
28:28You guys,
28:28Sean Levy's
28:29Stranger Things
28:29is available to stream
28:31on Netflix.
28:31We'll be right back
28:32with Andrew Ross Sarkin.
28:46Our next guest
28:47is an award-winning
28:48journalist,
28:49author,
28:49and co-host
28:50of CNBC's
28:51Squawk Box,
28:52his book,
28:531929,
28:54Inside the Greatest Crash
28:55on Wall Street,
28:55History,
28:56and How It Shattered
28:56a Nation is currently
28:57a number one
28:58New York Times bestseller.
29:00Please welcome
29:00to the show
29:00my friend,
29:01Andrew Ross Sarkin,
29:02everybody.
29:17Hello.
29:17I'm so happy to see you.
29:19Thank you for having me.
29:20You know,
29:20I've been out with you.
29:21I've been lucky enough
29:22to be at dinner parties
29:24with you.
29:24And as a financial reporter,
29:26I've noticed
29:27in the time I'm with you
29:28that people want to ask you
29:30about financial advice.
29:31Does that happen
29:32everywhere you go?
29:33A lot.
29:34Yeah.
29:34Yes.
29:35Are people satisfied
29:36with the answers you give them?
29:37Never,
29:37because you go through
29:38an airport
29:39and they say NVIDIA
29:40or they say Bitcoin
29:41or gold or silver,
29:43and I look at them
29:45and basically say,
29:46I wouldn't be at this airport
29:46if I knew the answer.
29:47Right.
29:48Well, that's a good point.
29:49Yeah.
29:50If you're flying domestic
29:51or I'm sorry,
29:51if you're flying commercial,
29:53yeah,
29:53they're like,
29:54this guy's not as smart
29:54as it seems on TV.
29:56Just play one on TV.
29:57But you also are not allowed to,
29:59as a financial reporter,
30:01you can't actually buy
30:02individual stocks.
30:03So I've never actually bought
30:06and sold individual stocks at all.
30:08In fact,
30:08as a journalist,
30:09the whole point is
30:10that I can actually tell you
30:11whether such and such company
30:12is good or bad
30:13or whatever it is
30:14and feel independent.
30:15That's the whole idea.
30:16We have rules,
30:17both at CNBC,
30:18at the New York Times,
30:19about what we can do.
30:20These are rules,
30:21by the way,
30:22that our government officials,
30:24by the way,
30:25do not have,
30:26at least at this moment.
30:27Well, it's fascinating, too,
30:29because, you know,
30:29the other difference
30:30between you and the government
30:31is they are in meetings
30:33where they're actually
30:33hearing information
30:35earlier than normal.
30:37Yes, I like to think
30:38I'm early.
30:38They're really early.
30:39They're really early.
30:40And not because
30:41they have good sources.
30:42They're literally just
30:43people are telling them
30:44information.
30:44They are the sources.
30:45They're the source.
30:46There's been a bipartisan effort,
30:47it should be noted,
30:48to try to, you know,
30:49put the same limitations
30:50on members of Congress
30:52as there are on journalists
30:54who cover these fields.
30:56Do you think there's
30:57any chance of it passing?
30:58Look, there's been going,
30:59people have been talking
31:00about trying to do this forever.
31:01And this is something
31:01that I think everybody
31:02would agree.
31:03You know, our congressmen
31:05should not be owning stocks
31:07after hearing,
31:08I mean, by the way,
31:09there are people,
31:11I don't know if you saw this,
31:12it's not just the stock market.
31:14Now there's these prediction markets,
31:15Polymarket, Calci.
31:17On Friday of just last week,
31:19with this whole situation
31:20in Venezuela,
31:21somebody made $400,000,
31:23literally betting,
31:24and clearly, I imagine,
31:26knew that something
31:27was about to happen
31:28this weekend.
31:29Sure.
31:29Yes, there is a bill
31:30on the table right now
31:31that would prevent
31:33Congress from doing this.
31:35Basically, everybody's
31:36prevented from doing this
31:37except for one person.
31:38Who do you think?
31:40Is this DJT?
31:42Are those the initials?
31:43He lives 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
31:45Yeah, yeah, thank you.
31:46Yeah, so he would be
31:48effectively off the table.
31:50I mean, he could still trade,
31:51do whatever.
31:52Yeah.
31:52Everybody else couldn't.
31:53But for years,
31:54people have been talking
31:55about trying to do this,
31:56and Congress and the Senate
31:57have never wanted
31:58to do this to themselves.
31:59I used to actually
32:00write columns.
32:01I remember talking to
32:02folks at the SEC,
32:04which regulates this industry.
32:06By the way,
32:06it regulates insider trading.
32:07Yeah.
32:08CEOs, business leaders,
32:09are not allowed
32:10to trade back and forth
32:12willy-nilly,
32:13especially when they
32:13know information.
32:14That's technically illegal.
32:16And when you go
32:16and you talk to the head
32:17of the SEC and say,
32:18why don't you regulate this?
32:19And why don't you put in
32:21some rules and regulations?
32:22They say, guess who funds us?
32:24Yeah, there you go.
32:25Congress.
32:25Yeah.
32:26So if you follow the money,
32:27you can understand everything.
32:29Well, I would like
32:30to follow the oil
32:31for my next question.
32:32You mentioned Venezuela.
32:33And I think a lot of people
32:35have this assumption
32:36that maybe what happened
32:37this week is based
32:38on the fact that Venezuela
32:39is an oil-rich country.
32:43Yet, you know,
32:44I think for somebody
32:45like a layman like myself,
32:46I think that you can just go in
32:47and it's very easy
32:48to get the oil.
32:49That is not the case
32:50in a country like Venezuela.
32:52Look, I think that
32:53whatever we're hearing
32:54in terms of headlines
32:55out of the White House
32:55or otherwise saying
32:56this is going to be
32:57some kind of boondoggle
32:58for oil companies.
32:59They're all going to go in there.
33:00They're going to extract oil.
33:01They're going to create
33:02cheap oil for Americans.
33:04This is like a tens of billions
33:06of dollar project
33:07that would take literally years,
33:11potentially decades,
33:12way after President Trump
33:14is going to be in office.
33:15Maybe.
33:19No, but so part of the issue
33:23is effectively whoever
33:24these oil companies are
33:26that may want to do this,
33:27even if they wanted to do this,
33:29and it's not even clear
33:29they would,
33:30because ultimately,
33:31by the way,
33:31there's going to be
33:32a price tag on all this.
33:34Oil companies actually
33:35don't want lower oil prices.
33:37Yeah.
33:37And so increasing
33:38the supply of oil,
33:40not always helpful.
33:42But I say that
33:43because the other piece
33:44of this is,
33:45if this does take decades,
33:47and who knows
33:48what the politics
33:49of Venezuela
33:50are going to turn out to be,
33:51all that uncertainty
33:52means that most oil companies,
33:55especially CEOs
33:56of publicly traded companies,
33:57they don't want to go in there.
33:58They don't want
33:58their employees getting killed.
34:00They don't know
34:00what's going to happen.
34:01Yeah.
34:02So this is just,
34:03I don't want to say
34:04it's a pipe dream,
34:05but I think it's a long ways out
34:07until we actually
34:07see something like that.
34:08All right.
34:09Well, I take the other side.
34:10I think he has a plan,
34:11and we're going to
34:11see results fast.
34:17Hey, congratulations.
34:18This book is fantastic.
34:19And it's not the first time
34:21that I've read
34:22one of your books
34:22that is about something
34:23that, you know,
34:24I don't feel like
34:25I fully understand
34:25the economy or anything
34:27of that matter.
34:28You write it
34:28so that even somebody like me,
34:31it's just a thrilling read.
34:34By the way,
34:35it's trying to be like,
34:36you're trying to write
34:36like a novel.
34:37Yes.
34:37And it reads like a novel
34:39because I think sometimes
34:40we think these books
34:40you know,
34:41we think about a stock
34:42market crash.
34:42We think about,
34:43you know,
34:45we do think about,
34:45you know,
34:46the economy.
34:46We think about numbers.
34:47And really,
34:48it's about people.
34:48Always.
34:49And it's immediately,
34:50you know,
34:51introduced us to all
34:52these great real-life
34:53characters.
34:54How soon when you
34:55worked on this book
34:55did you realize,
34:56oh, this,
34:57I can write this like a novel.
34:58I can write this like a page
34:59turner because it is a page
35:00turner.
35:01So that's what I wanted to do.
35:02And the truth was there
35:02have been some amazing books
35:03written about this period,
35:05but mostly by economists
35:06and people back even in the
35:0650s.
35:07And it wasn't until I actually
35:08landed at a library and
35:10started opening up boxes
35:11and seeing transcripts that
35:13the secretary of a leading
35:15banker in New York had been
35:16keeping during his phone
35:18calls with Roosevelt and
35:20Hoover that I thought,
35:21okay,
35:22you could really do this
35:23because you could put people
35:24in the room so they could
35:25actually see what was
35:26really happening.
35:26I think we all have
35:27sort of a perception that
35:29something terrible happened
35:30in 1929.
35:31There was a stock market
35:32crash and then the Great
35:33Depression happened.
35:34And that's so not what
35:35really happened.
35:36It's such a more intricate,
35:38crazy,
35:38it's a drama,
35:39it's a soap opera is what
35:39it is.
35:40Yes.
35:40And people are very human
35:41in the same way that
35:42they're human now.
35:43I think,
35:44you know,
35:45there's a lot of vanity
35:46involved in things like
35:47this.
35:48There's a lot of not wanting
35:49to admit how bad things
35:50are because.
35:51Always.
35:51Yeah.
35:52And so many of the
35:53characters are exactly like
35:54the people today.
35:55There's a character that's
35:56like Jamie Dimon who runs
35:57J.P. Morgan today.
35:58There's a character like
35:59Elon Musk.
36:00There's a character that
36:01probably you think of as
36:02like a Sam Altman kind.
36:03So they're all,
36:04it's almost like history
36:06does repeat.
36:07And by the way,
36:07we had tariffs in 1932.
36:09So.
36:09And how'd they go?
36:12No spoilers.
36:13No spoilers.
36:14No spoilers.
36:15You know,
36:16another thing,
36:17you know,
36:17we talked about.
36:17Global trade dropped by
36:1860%.
36:19That's the answer.
36:20You know,
36:21one thing is,
36:22I believe Hoover is the
36:23one who basically tries to
36:24keep telling the Americans
36:25that things are actually
36:26better than they are
36:28perceiving it.
36:29This is a.
36:30Contested by both presidents.
36:31So,
36:32you know,
36:32and again,
36:33like another bipartisan
36:34thing is we've,
36:35you know,
36:35had back-to-back presidents,
36:36Donald Trump and also,
36:37you know,
36:37President Biden who told
36:39Americans,
36:39you know,
36:40I know you think there's
36:41an affordability crisis,
36:42but there's actually not.
36:43And ultimately,
36:44politicians are in a
36:45tough place when they're
36:46trying to tell Americans
36:47how much things cost.
36:49You can't tell people
36:49how they're supposed to feel
36:51when they go to the
36:52supermarket.
36:52And I think we saw this,
36:54by the way,
36:54under Biden,
36:55as you said,
36:55I think we're seeing this
36:56under President Trump.
36:57You know,
36:58Hoover was literally
36:59trying to put up billboards
37:00telling people literally
37:01if you just smile
37:02and feel good,
37:03things will be better.
37:04Now,
37:05there wasn't TikTok
37:05back then,
37:06but,
37:07you know,
37:08people go to the
37:08supermarket today
37:09and you can see them.
37:10They're showing you
37:10the price of things
37:11and they know
37:12how they feel
37:12and things are,
37:13I hate to say,
37:14less affordable
37:15than we want them to be.
37:17You got into this business
37:18as a young man.
37:19How old were you
37:20when you first started
37:21at the New York Times?
37:22I was 18 years old.
37:23So 18 years old
37:23and how did you get
37:24assigned your first story?
37:26So I was in high school.
37:27I wasn't supposed
37:28to be there.
37:29Okay.
37:29I had actually talked
37:30my way into the building
37:31sort of as a pseudo
37:32unofficial intern.
37:34But nobody had hired you?
37:36No, no.
37:36I was literally
37:37Xeroxing,
37:37stapling,
37:38and getting coffee
37:39for a reporter
37:40that I was a huge fan of
37:41and I was almost
37:42just shadowing him.
37:43Got it.
37:43And then there was
37:44an editor
37:46who overheard me
37:47talk about this thing
37:48called the internet.
37:49This is back in 1995.
37:51Yeah.
37:52She thought
37:52I was like a real person.
37:54She thought I was
37:55like a college grad
37:55who was, you know,
37:59capable of something.
38:00But she didn't know
38:01that I hadn't graduated
38:02from high school.
38:03Right.
38:03She assigned me
38:04a 500-word story to write.
38:06And is it true
38:07that your first story
38:08was about the sound
38:09modems make?
38:10It was that...
38:11Do people even know
38:12what a modem is?
38:14My kids don't know
38:15what a modem is.
38:15Do you remember
38:16that sort of mating noise?
38:17Yeah, of course.
38:18I mean, that's not
38:19how I thought of it, but...
38:21Well, so she had said
38:23to me,
38:23what is that noise?
38:24Yeah.
38:25And I explained to her,
38:25I called it like
38:26a mating signal
38:28that the two modems...
38:29And she said,
38:29oh, that's great.
38:30You should go write that.
38:31Gotcha.
38:31And that's how
38:32I started my career.
38:34When did she find out
38:35that she'd given
38:35the coffee kid
38:36an assignment?
38:38Like a week and a half later.
38:39Yeah.
38:40After it was in the paper,
38:41happily.
38:42Okay, gotcha.
38:43And then your first byline,
38:45what was your first story
38:46with a byline?
38:47First story with a byline
38:49was another esoteric question
38:50of the computer age.
38:51Why aren't computers pink?
38:53Okay.
38:54Do you remember
38:54how they're always
38:54that beige-y gray back then?
38:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:56Yeah, so that was that article.
39:00And you might appreciate this.
39:02So I go by Andrew Ross Sorkin.
39:04It's a...
39:04I don't know if people think
39:05it's maybe a little too much,
39:06the three-name pretentious thing.
39:08But the truth is,
39:10that came from my...
39:12That came from the first byline
39:14that I ever had.
39:15Because I...
39:16That's my mother's maiden name,
39:17so you can steal my credit card now.
39:19And I had always gone by
39:21Andrew Sorkin.
39:21I still do.
39:22I think when I see you,
39:23I just say Andrew Sorkin.
39:24But I had...
39:24And I'm always like,
39:25we met.
39:25Stop introducing yourself.
39:28But I had lunch
39:29with my grandfather,
39:31my mother's father,
39:32the day before the article
39:33was published.
39:33And he said,
39:35Andrew, you got to use
39:36your full name in the paper.
39:37This is going to be like
39:38our first and last time
39:39it'll ever be there.
39:42So...
39:42I mean, I will say,
39:43Andrew Ross Sorkin is a guy...
39:44I mean, Andrew Sorkin,
39:46like, forget about it,
39:46but I'll read a book
39:47by Andrew Ross Sorkin.
39:48I mean, this guy,
39:48this guy knows what he's doing.
39:50The book's great.
39:51I'm not surprised.
39:52Thanks so much for being here.
39:53Thank you for having me.
39:53It's such a pleasure.
39:54Andrew Ross Sorkin, everybody.
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