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00:01The biggest thing that hurt us was everything that was said about us and not to us.
00:07Any concerns you have, please come to us because if I find out that they're still gossiping about Zack and
00:14I, I will not tolerate it.
00:16Have you dated anyone yet or are you?
00:18I have not dated anybody yet.
00:20What type would you be more drawn to?
00:24I guess in four words, the Sandra Bullock look.
00:27Yeah, Alexandra.
00:30Me and Tegan broke up.
00:32I really, truly feel like there's unfinished business.
00:36We'll see if the patterns change, I guess.
00:40They're doing a family trip to Montana to go see Mariah.
00:44Ethan has extended the invite to me.
00:46I really hope you do come.
00:48We'll see.
00:49Can I hug you, please?
00:50Nope.
01:03Do you want to peel potatoes and put them in that pot?
01:07It's our first Thanksgiving back at the farm.
01:10All day today, the girls and I have been trying to get Thanksgiving dinner together.
01:16We've got Ken smoking a turkey.
01:18I'm making a ham in the oven.
01:20We're making bread from scratch.
01:23And Ethan's here too, which is extra special.
01:27He's exhausted.
01:29He just got in from driving straight from Wisconsin.
01:32He went to Wisconsin to find a place to live and tell Tegan that he's moving there.
01:39I think Ethan knows what's at stake and how big this is.
01:42If she rejects him, then he's starting all over either there or someplace else.
01:50Ethan's upstairs.
01:51Should we get him up?
01:52Yeah, I'll go get him up.
01:54Ultimately, I'm supportive of Ethan moving because I feel like Ethan will never rest until
02:00he figures out if Tegan is going to work out or not.
02:06This is my last little week or two that I have with everyone and basically wrap that chapter
02:11up in Georgia.
02:12Are you okay?
02:14I'll be down in a minute.
02:15Okay.
02:16You know, I think Tegan definitely is still processing everything.
02:21And, you know, one of the things she told me was the door is closed, but it's not locked.
02:26All right.
02:27So I put the bread in the oven.
02:29Excuse me.
02:33It's just a waiting that's killing me right now.
02:35It just can't happen fast enough.
02:37I can't wait for those wheels on that New Yorker to be rolling north.
02:41Thank you for carving the turkey, Ken.
02:44Thank you for cooking the turkey.
02:45Hey, guys.
02:46Hi.
02:47You made it.
02:47Sorry we're late.
02:48There's a lot of food.
02:49Good.
02:50The holidays that Barry and I did not celebrate with the children were Christmas, Easter,
02:57Halloween, and Valentine's Day.
02:59We did celebrate Thanksgiving.
03:01That's good.
03:02For Thanksgiving, when the kids were young, we usually rented a beach house.
03:06And that was our Thanksgiving.
03:09I picked meals that were conducive to spending all day on the beach.
03:13Like I would make a big pot of chili.
03:15If for some reason we didn't go to the beach, which would be later on, the kids were older, then
03:21yeah, we would do an occasional, you know, official Thanksgiving dinner with turkey and cranberry sauce.
03:26But to me, Thanksgiving is just a good opportunity to get everybody together and have a good meal together.
03:34Marcy, can you pass the bread down here?
03:36I feel like after everything that we've been through, a divorce.
03:41Ethan not being allowed to talk to us for several years.
03:45It's kind of a miracle that we're back at the farm having Thanksgiving together.
03:49I'm thankful for all the time we got to spend with everybody here.
03:52I'm thankful for failing.
03:56Isaac and Kaelin have been broken up for about all of four days before they got back together.
04:01I think that was the longest, when worst, four days of Isaac's life.
04:07I am thankful for Isaac and friends and family and being able to gather here today.
04:14I think the most important thing I've learned from all this is just not to take Kaelin for granted, you
04:19know.
04:19I'm truly blessed to be able to learn from it and have a second chance.
04:25I'm thankful for going on 10 months of the most amazing chapter of my life.
04:31First Thanksgiving together as a married couple.
04:34Also my first Thanksgiving away from my family.
04:39Oh yeah.
04:41Mike and Mariah weren't able to come visit for Thanksgiving, but they visited a couple weeks ago, so we still
04:46got to see them.
04:48Mike and Mariah live out of state and they do come visit a couple times a year as they can.
04:52But, you know, it's harder. We all have busy lives.
04:56There's no telling how many people will be at our Thanksgiving dinner next year.
05:00Is it possible there could be a new little person?
05:04Yeah. You never know.
05:07I'd say, honestly, we do have a few more, like, just logistics we should work out.
05:12There's still a couple things that we want to just be a little bit more confident in.
05:16But I think mentally we're in that place.
05:19Mentally we're there.
05:20Yeah.
05:24Patience, my darling.
05:25Lydia has baby eyes. Every time I talk to her, she's like, I want a baby.
05:30And what kind of prenatal vitamin should I take?
05:33She has baby fever bad.
05:35But I think Zach is a little more rational, thinking things through and saying, let's wait a little bit.
05:41I'm kind of insinuating that you two, but I mean, Ken and I are, we're not out of the race
05:45yet.
05:45Yes, we are.
05:53She's had 10 kids and don't like, like, if you use the lawnmower, like a bunch, doesn't it like wear
06:00out?
06:00I don't know.
06:05I'm not talking about any of this.
06:07I don't want to talk about my mother-in-law's fertility.
06:12If my mom actually has a kid, I'll shave every hair on my head, including my eyebrows and eyelashes.
06:19If it happens, I'd be happy.
06:21And I'd be really happy if it never happened.
06:27The temperature has been steady dropping the past few days.
06:30Way to change the topic.
06:31No.
06:32We just need Lydia and I to be pregnant together.
06:39Awkward.
06:41Hello, hello.
06:42Hi.
06:42How you guys doing?
06:44I'm doing all right.
06:45Oh, all right.
06:46Kim had let me know that they were celebrating Thanksgiving out at the farm.
06:49And she just casually said, hey, if you want to stop by, feel free.
06:54Things are much more casual.
06:55They're living their best life.
06:56I'm just moving forward with mine.
06:58So given that Ken's pretty easy going, it's easy for me just to slip out there and chit chat.
07:03Oh, we never did a toast.
07:05I want Mercy to make the toast.
07:08I propose a toast to very crispy bread.
07:12Get it?
07:12Toast?
07:13Wait, Ethan's glass is empty.
07:15Put something in this.
07:15Oh, yeah.
07:16What do you want to ask?
07:17No, I don't want any.
07:18Cheers to being back at the farm.
07:21Yay.
07:21You're here.
07:23Ethan, I've talked a little bit since he's been back from Wisconsin.
07:26I don't know where everybody else is at with what Ethan's doing.
07:31I know for me, I can tell he misses Tegan.
07:35If I could have one thing next Thanksgiving and Christmas, spend it with Tegan and her daughter.
07:41That would be my wish.
07:43The holidays are always hard when, like, you were with someone last year and then you're
07:48alone this year as far as, like, your significant other.
07:52So I think about that all the time.
07:54Lydia and Zach and Isaac and Kaylynn and my mom and Ken.
07:58It's like, dang, what is wrong with me?
08:02So, Ethan, when are you moving up to Wisconsin?
08:05Pretty soon.
08:06Like, a week or two?
08:07A week or two.
08:09Maybe up there for Christmas?
08:10No, I don't know.
08:11Okay.
08:14I honestly don't even know what to say.
08:19If we're finished, I have an idea.
08:21All of us spread out between here and the kitchen.
08:25Yeah, let's do that.
08:26Just passing stuff and then the table gets cleared.
08:28What, like an assembly line?
08:29Yeah, like an assembly line.
08:31We all knew that he wanted to work it out with her and we knew, we kind of knew in
08:36a way
08:37he had talked about it before about possibly moving up there.
08:40In a way we were a little bit surprised that he was actually going up there and then in a
08:43way we weren't.
08:44I'm gonna go...
08:45I'll be in the middle.
08:46Get in the kitchen ready to receive.
08:50Since her and Ethan did break up, me and Tegan haven't talked like we used to.
08:56It is a little murky too, like me being Isaac's girlfriend, Ethan's brother.
09:02So I kind of, you know, took a little step back.
09:05Nobody's doing a assembly line, are they?
09:07No, the table's almost cleared.
09:15You mind if you take some of this home at all?
09:16I don't know.
09:17Okay.
09:25Oh, looks like I think I just need to...
09:27Just run.
09:28Get some cardio going.
09:29Get some weight off so I'm not...
09:31Get the blood pumping, right?
09:32...overworking muscles.
09:33Because you can't full run in it.
09:35No, it's like really a challenge.
09:39I should start running again.
09:40After all this thing's giving food, my time's gonna be slow.
09:47Alright Ethan, I feel like I've heard a lot of like everything here and there.
09:53But like where are you and Tegan at, would you say, and what's like kind of your goal in like
09:58going up to Wisconsin?
10:01Because I'd love to hear it from you more than just whispers everywhere.
10:06Well, I don't know.
10:08I guess we'll find out where we're at, but I'm just gonna move up there and...
10:12Give it a go?
10:13Give it a go.
10:14Can't have it, can't do that down here, so...
10:17Yeah.
10:17That's just where I feel I need to be.
10:19Yeah.
10:21That's where I want to be.
10:24Last I heard, Tegan and Ethan were broke up and now he's moving across the country to go have more
10:31time with her.
10:32So I think I'd like to just maybe understand it a little more.
10:36Why he would make a decision like that.
10:38And if it's worth going across the entire country for.
10:42Are you guys gonna like looking to get back together or what's the...
10:47I'll just let whatever happened happen.
10:52Just trying to take it slow?
10:54Mhm.
10:57I didn't really want to talk about that, but Zach went there.
11:00Because if Ethan's not feeling good and he perceives Zach to be too nosy, right?
11:06I'm in observer mode and see if anything breaks out and I need to, you know, do anything.
11:12If you don't mind me asking like what's some of the...
11:15I guess like what's led to just some of the separation.
11:19Or just like having to reset and just kind of take it slow.
11:24I'm pretty much sum it up and she always felt last and I never moved over there.
11:32Even though I told her that I would many times.
11:38Zach's pretty good at making people open up and asking the right questions.
11:43I'm kind of more just like I'll ask a few, but if you don't open up I'm not gonna go
11:49grab the sledgehammer.
11:51What's your timeline I guess?
11:53You know, if stuff doesn't hash out to come back here or like committing to six months or a year.
12:00What do you think?
12:01Oh, I don't know.
12:03It's very different than my brother's and what I'm used to.
12:07Zach is going a lot deeper than Mike and Isaac would and I'm not even nearly as close to him
12:14or know him very well.
12:17You'll figure that out.
12:20He's just gonna give it a good go.
12:22Okay?
12:24Zach may have reservations about Ethan's choice of go back to Wisconsin.
12:30I'm just staying out of it because he's got to do it.
12:34I mean, I see it in his eyes.
12:37Play it by ear.
12:38Cool.
12:44Ethan was definitely quiet and just a bit to himself, I guess you could say.
12:49I don't entirely know why, but maybe a little later we can, you know, maybe have some more conversation.
12:56But we'll see.
13:03In my experience, Bigfoot will be active during the daytime.
13:07If I dated a lady and she just out of the blue did a Bigfoot call.
13:15That would probably be a green flag.
13:18Me and Tegan, we're going to Montana to see Mariah.
13:22I'm exhausted.
13:23It all went downhill from like the moment we got on the first plane.
13:32I'm going up.
13:34Can't keep me out.
13:37Oh, baby, you see me.
13:40I'm about to elevate.
13:41I'm going up.
13:46Hi.
13:47Howdy, howdy.
13:48Y'all loving the weather?
13:49Hmm.
13:50Today we're at Torrea State Park in the Panhandle of Florida.
13:54Torrea State Park is a great location to visit.
13:57Find Bigfoot.
13:59Maybe we'll hear something, like hear it calling or whatever.
14:03I think Amber's really hoping for a sighting.
14:06Yeah, why not?
14:08Mercy?
14:10I mean, if I saw one, I'd probably be scared, but it's nice to be able to spend time with
14:15Dad.
14:15Yeah.
14:16This area's got a real rich history with Bigfoot going back to like the 1880s.
14:22I've taken over 750 reports in the state, eyewitnesses I've spoken with, 60 in this area.
14:30I grew up in Minnesota.
14:31Of course, there's reports from the woods in northern Minnesota of encounters.
14:36Yep.
14:37This is one of those out of the left field ventures that I thought would be interesting
14:45to, I guess, explore.
14:47There's the hoaxes, but then there's too much real, legit experiences that just indicates
14:54there's stuff there.
14:55Right.
14:55That's real.
14:56Mm-hmm.
14:57I'm a Bigfoot researcher.
14:59I try to document historical accounts of Bigfoot's existence, and I'm currently on a quest
15:06to prove it to the world.
15:09Two of my six daughters.
15:10But these are the adventurous ones who are curious about things that go bump in the night.
15:15Well, curiosity killed the cat.
15:30Okay.
15:30Got the fire going.
15:32Oh, good.
15:33What do you all do?
15:34I'm baking chocolate chip cookies.
15:37Barry took Amber and Mercy to a big dark forest somewhere to go hunting for Bigfoot.
15:44I think for Barry to find a woman that's into things like Bigfoot and a whole bunch of
15:50other things that I know Barry's into, I think it's going to be pretty slim.
15:55But somebody's out there for him.
15:59So, Thanksgiving, you were talking about the possibility of having another kid.
16:03You were joking, correct?
16:05Well, okay.
16:06If you wanted a son, I would love to try for a son.
16:10For you.
16:11It would still be a miracle for both of us to do that.
16:15So.
16:16It would definitely be a miracle.
16:19Your mom and Ken are jokingly talking about having another baby.
16:22You're shaking your head.
16:23Why?
16:24Because I don't want to answer.
16:28Wouldn't you love to have another baby, brother?
16:32Cassia probably just thinks, oh, there's mom talking, you know, being funny or whatever.
16:38But I know if I had a little baby, she would be all over it.
16:43Well, let's say, just hypothetically, that did happen.
16:48I would be okay with it.
16:50I think that in Kim's mind, she feels like that we would be a lot closer if we had a
16:55child that we shared together.
16:57But that's not the case.
16:59If Kim were to get pregnant, I would be happy.
17:02I would support her.
17:03I would take care of the baby just like I would my other children.
17:07I would prefer not to have a child at my age, but I'd be okay with it.
17:17You've got imprints.
17:19So we found this one.
17:21This was with about 17 other tracks, okay?
17:26Yeah.
17:26I've never experienced anything, so I don't have any stories personally.
17:29But I guess I'm the brain type that would entertain the possibility that this creature is real.
17:36Girls, let's go.
17:37This is an adventure.
17:40Girls, there's gonna be a little trail up here on the right.
17:43Okay.
17:44And we'll take that.
17:46If I find someone who has a curiosity about mysteries of unknown realms like Bigfoot, that would be an interesting
17:56lady to talk to.
17:58I know a lot of people think that you should Bigfoot during the nighttime.
18:02In my experience, Bigfoot is more in tune with like the moon cycle.
18:06We are in a full moon right now, and so all the animals will be active during the daytime, right?
18:13Dad finally told us that he's ready to date, and I think I could see Dad with someone who's like
18:18definitely like very adventurous and loves doing things outdoors.
18:22Someone who's like really, I want to say open-minded, like doesn't, you know, we'll humor him and all his
18:27theories and stuff.
18:30Like for Bigfoot, for example.
18:33I'm gonna play a singing bowl.
18:35Okay.
18:35See if we hear anything.
18:36Okay.
18:41With the bowl, I guess it's a device to create the sound that would elicit a response from Bigfoot.
18:58I wonder if Sandra Bullock is a Sasquatch enthusiast.
19:03I could try some calls.
19:05I'll go first.
19:06Okay.
19:06And then you can give it a shot yourself.
19:17Maybe y'all would like to do one?
19:19I can't.
19:20I have laryngitis.
19:21Yeah, right.
19:22Yeah.
19:24I definitely will not do my Sasquatch noise.
19:27But if I dated a lady and she just out of the blue did a Bigfoot call, that would probably
19:33be a green flag.
19:37Do you think they could be around?
19:39Like do you think they could be watching us?
19:41Do you ever get that feeling when you're in the woods that something's watching you?
19:48I promise you, something's watching you.
20:13Today I'm meeting Ethan to eat together and catch up on some things because he's, you know, moving.
20:18What's up?
20:20I've been here for 40 minutes.
20:22Oh, I'm sorry.
20:23No, it's fine.
20:24But I am mad at you.
20:26I had a bunch of stuff to work out.
20:29Phone calls to my attorney and all that stuff.
20:31I was late to meet Isaac, and I do feel bad about that.
20:36But I had a phone call with my attorney because that, unfortunately, is still grinding on with my ex.
20:42It's extremely important to Tegan that I be divorced.
20:46It's extremely important to me as well.
20:48I'm still legally married to someone else.
20:51That's a big deal.
20:52I want to live you out of my life the day that we are legally separate.
20:57Yeah, I pray for that day to come very quickly every day.
21:01You already have a place up there?
21:04Mm-hmm.
21:04What's going to be your first steps when you move up there?
21:07Get my job going and move in.
21:10I kind of hate to go because of you guys, but at the same time, I have to.
21:15I can't stay.
21:17Maybe it'll work out.
21:18Maybe it won't.
21:18But you can't kill yourself trying to make it if it's not what she wants.
21:21I think that it will.
21:23It just can't work if I'm down here.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Yeah.
21:27Isaac is very protective of me because of everything that happened with my ex.
21:31I completely understand that.
21:33Me and Isaac have always been very close.
21:35He doesn't want to see me get hurt, go on a limb again.
21:38And he also loves having me here in Georgia, and he doesn't want me to leave, so.
21:44It feels like you just got down here.
21:46It sucks that you have to leave so soon.
21:48Yeah.
21:49We have Montana, though, too.
21:51It's going to be good to get out there and see what environment Mariah's living in.
21:53Well, you know, I asked Tegan to come to Montana.
21:56She is coming.
21:58Oh, she is?
21:59Mm-hmm.
21:59I didn't know that.
22:01Pretty soon here, I'm going to see Mariah in Montana with Isaac and Kalen.
22:05I had just mentioned to Tegan that I'd really like her to come, just because me and her
22:11could spend some time together, just like break the ice again a little bit maybe, you
22:15know, as friends or whatever.
22:18I'm really happy.
22:19I was hoping that she would come.
22:21She'll be out there the whole time?
22:23Yeah, she'll be out there for maybe two days.
22:29Well, I'm glad you're happy.
22:32I've noticed some distinctive patterns when it comes to him and Tegan and his mood changes.
22:38He's so fun to be around when everything's fine with him personally, but sometimes his
22:43personality fades.
22:44He's not as happy.
22:46I hate that.
22:46I'm not going to go out to Montana and just have my face in my ass because I'm sad about
22:53something that doesn't even directly affect me.
22:56I'm just going to go out there and have fun.
22:59I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much.
23:02It's just one of those things you've got to do because you don't want to have that question
23:05in the back of your head, if you could have made it work, I guess.
23:10I'm not trying to upset Ethan.
23:12He likes her.
23:14I want to respect him and make sure he knows that I'll support him, whatever he does,
23:17but if I can see something that I don't think is a good idea, it pains me to just sit
23:21back and watch him.
23:22I'm not really doing much different with Kaelin after the breakup.
23:26I've always gotten her flowers, done nice things for her, and I always will.
23:29But I guess I've got to give her more reassurance.
23:33What do you plan on doing differently to make sure it works?
23:38I don't know.
23:38I'm just going to try my best.
23:53Look, we have some nice, really hot embers in there finally.
23:56Already, yeah.
23:57Starting up again.
23:59We spent Thanksgiving with the whole family, and Lydia and I decided to stay here at the farm.
24:05Kim, she's great. She's a great host.
24:06Here we go.
24:08Oh, no.
24:08Oh, no.
24:09But she has a lot of things in her life that she has to deal with.
24:13And she's a great host, too.
24:14And she's a great host, and she's, you know, very hospitable.
24:18But at the same time, you don't know when she may be talking behind your back or just dealing with
24:24her own problems.
24:25And I think a lot of times with Kim, it's just, how's it going? How's the weather? Like, very surface
24:32level, so.
24:32Yeah.
24:35I heard Ethan was coming over. Do you want to get some time with him before he leaves?
24:40That's kind of the plan. We're working on his New Yorker together.
24:44Ethan is moving to Wisconsin, hoping to get back together with Tegan. And Zach wanted to know where he's at.
24:52It's hard to make a wise decision when you're in a hard place.
24:57Yeah.
24:57Like, if you don't have a healthy example of healthy relationships, how are you going to cultivate a healthy relationship?
25:06Yeah.
25:07Zach's kind of the only one who's wanting to and willing to, you know, talk to Ethan about his decision
25:14and why he's moving and everything.
25:16You're going to show him how it's done?
25:17Well.
25:27Hey Ethan, how's it going?
25:30I have had very little experience with cars.
25:34Better replace all these belts.
25:35See how shredded it is?
25:37Oh, yeah.
25:38I think.
25:39The first rule of thumb is somebody shows up to work on a car in a white sweater.
25:53You want to come over here and hold this?
25:55Yeah.
25:57I always.
25:59All right, right there.
26:01Okay.
26:03Hold it there?
26:04Okay.
26:04Yep.
26:07It's so frustrating because I can't leave for Wisconsin until this thing is running.
26:14Yeah, so I just don't necessarily know Tegan too well.
26:17Well, she's an amazing mother.
26:19Probably the most patient, kind, loving person I've ever met.
26:22All right, you can release the tension.
26:24Okay.
26:25Pull it up.
26:31We just have one more belt here?
26:33Or are we just putting that same one back?
26:35Yeah, no, I'm just going to put that same one back on.
26:41Well, I guess I just, I know you guys kind of went back and forth quite a bit last year
26:48and obviously a lot was going on.
26:51Yeah.
26:52Because I feel like that's quite the commitment to go out there to show her that you care about
26:57her and do all that stuff and moving across the country is a massive decision.
27:04I mean, I did it, so.
27:08If me and Tegan get back together, I know we're not ever going to break up again.
27:14I am like deeply irritated, but I tried to hide my irritation and just keep it in so
27:19I were no one would see it and answer the questions without really answering the questions.
27:25Even if I move all the way out there, we never get back together.
27:29That's still a risk I'm willing to take.
27:30Yeah.
27:34I think what I've come to recognize with Lydia and just how she speaks, but also just some
27:40of the class in general is that they may be short winded, but they get to the point.
27:44As much as there is guard that he does have up, I personally think he's still answering my questions.
27:51I've heard things, but I don't know, obviously, how true they are just around, you know, a lot of money
27:59you've spent with her
28:00and you giving a lot and her not necessarily giving in return or something like that, so.
28:10I don't know where Zach heard that from.
28:12Yeah, that stuff just pisses me off.
28:19I know those concerns have gone around and I'm not sure how true they are.
28:23That's why I want to talk to you about them, but.
28:27I've seen and heard that.
28:27There's stuff that Zach was asking me that I haven't even talked to Mike and Isaac about.
28:31And if I haven't talked to them about it, I'm certainly not going to talk to Zach about that.
28:47I know those concerns have gone around and I'm not sure how true they are.
28:51That's why I want to talk to you about them, but.
28:53I've seen and heard Ethan just be hurt.
28:57He's had a lot of ups and downs with Tegan in terms of them breaking up and getting back together.
29:02And there's some concern just as someone from the outside.
29:06And I know Lydia cares very deeply about him.
29:09And so in the way that she cares for him, I also want to show that I care
29:15and that we just don't want to see him hurt again.
29:18Families always only see one side.
29:20Yeah.
29:21You know, I mean, I did help Tegan when she needed it.
29:26And I don't regret that.
29:28I'd do it again.
29:29It's not like Tegan forced me to do anything.
29:32I did it because I wanted to.
29:34And that's just life.
29:35Sometimes you pour a bunch into a relationship and it doesn't work out.
29:38But I don't think it's ever going to work out if you don't pour into it.
29:42So whatever, who cares?
29:43You know, that stuff you do in a relationship for someone else.
29:46You know, like I, as a guy, I might think like, oh, you know, I fixed this for you
29:51or I gave you, you know, I gave you money so you could have, you know, have extra
29:57or get your car fixed or something like that.
29:59And I think like, oh, I did a lot.
30:00Well, for her, she's probably looking at that like, sure, he did that.
30:04But, you know, he's told me four times that he would move.
30:06And then when that time comes, he's not here.
30:08Right.
30:09So it goes both ways.
30:11Yeah.
30:12Sounds like you're going out there to figure it out together, which is, which is good.
30:16I just don't want to sit here and never know.
30:18Always wonder if it.
30:19No, that's fair.
30:20Clarity is huge.
30:22I got all of that.
30:25Well, actually, I've got to put the drain plug and oil filter back on before we dump oil in it.
30:32No, that's fair.
30:34Based off of our conversation, I just feel like Ethan is just confused about his direction
30:40on whether or not Tegan and him are going to end up together.
30:43I feel like he's looking for the quick fix.
30:45I wish it was that easy, but it's not.
30:48I'm in the 5-8s.
30:50There's this proving that he has for her because he disappointed her so many times by not showing
30:56up for her.
30:56And so the way he shows up is he moves across the country for her and does everything he
31:02can for her.
31:03Put all this in, I think.
31:06In getting that, she might not give anything back.
31:08And that's the thing about situationships is what I would call it.
31:13There's that back and forth and you never know when you're going to give and never know
31:16what you're going to take.
31:17And if you take, then you have to make up for what you take.
31:21And if you give, you don't know if you're getting anything back.
31:24And so that's why commitment is necessary in relationship.
31:29Well, it sounds like you're pretty set on trying to figure things out, which is good.
31:39No way.
31:40It's good.
31:40Zach is not the only one that's talked to me or shone interest in me moving to Wisconsin.
31:45I've talked to all my family members, Lydia and Zachary.
31:49I think one of the last ones that I told.
31:56the only concern that my any of some of my family members have voiced is like just take care of
32:02yourself don't don't go get yourself hurt again which i mean you know it's completely understandable
32:08it's cool to just get some more time with you especially after you know
32:16a not ideal first meeting yeah
32:22lydia and i are experiencing a joy with each other that i don't feel ethan has experienced
32:26for a very long time i haven't seen a very pure smile from him i feel like ever i think
32:32he still
32:33has a lot of baggage from his marriage this is the best way that i can show that i care
32:44i just don't feel like he sees that i think my intentions are often misunderstood
32:57i miss tegan very dearly and i'm like just really anxious to hit the road
33:01i'm ready to get out of here get up there see tegan
33:08hell yeah hello welcome i was very excited to fly with tegan i thought ethan and i should
33:17have separate rooms because i don't think friends share like hotel rooms together or living spaces like
33:49i was very excited to fly with tegan
33:52tegan drove up to wisconsin got to wisconsin that night and then i met her at the airport and
33:58we flew out and by the time we made it to montana it was still an hour drive to the
34:04lodge and
34:04you know it was very good to see tegan but it also is so different like you just feel the
34:10distance you
34:11know hello hello hello welcome how are you well we finally made it it's really nice i like it
34:21i'm exhausted it all went downhill from like the moment we got on the first plane
34:26what happened
34:29well got on our flight and then they grounded the flight for an hour and a half
34:33and then we missed our flight in denver because of that i don't even know what day it is day
34:37friday
34:38or saturday it's friday it's friday yeah just a couple of little fun facts about our little lovely
34:44lodge ethan and i are not together we broke up some months ago i think really what it boiled down
34:50to in
34:51our relationship is i put him first and then he also put himself first and so nobody was prioritizing
34:56me and then yeah something sort of changed just inside myself it was like a slap in the face sort
35:04of almost like i was just like oh my god what am i doing
35:09as the montana trip was getting closer i still hadn't really made up my mind until
35:15very last minute but my mind i was like well i'm willing to try to be
35:21friends with ethan and i think he's willing and open to that too we'll see where it goes
35:28sorry there's no snow no that's okay we have a bunch back home so you're good ethan told me it's
35:34going to be isaac calen mariah him obviously and then i was invited and so i get along great with
35:41all
35:41of them um i'm excited for that part i'm excited to go see them the family
35:49okay i feel like spending group time might be easier just because there's other people around
35:55and other conversations to be had oh i don't know if my feet don't fit in there
36:01where do you want this um you can just leave it
36:07well it's really cute in here it is and you're in the cabin right
36:13me and tina staying in separate rooms that was a little emotional for me to walk in the room
36:20that she's staying in and there's stuff for me and her like they assume we're both staying there
36:26that's cute it is perfectly fine with me and it's not an issue but like okay this is where we're
36:33at
36:34compared to where we were just a little sad
36:39i thought ethan and i should have separate rooms because i don't think friends share like hotel
36:45rooms together or living spaces like that are you friends yeah i would say we're friends at least i
36:53i think we are what do you think yeah i guess
37:06there's a letter
37:10i mean flowers that's crazy
37:23there's a bunch of coupley things they made a mistake you know whatever i'm not upset about it
37:28it is what it is but it is a little harder for him than it is for me
37:33ethan teagle wears happy you are here for a stay enjoy the robes for your stay
37:43ethan definitely is sad or depressed but i definitely like agree with my boundaries
37:49so i don't feel bad or sad about it at all you should probably grab your stuff then too oh
37:57that's all
37:58sweet so you can have it no okay
38:08traveling was very nice it was the first time in a long time that i had
38:13got to spend any time with you but it's also very emotional
38:19yeah why were you emotional
38:24because it was a long travel day were you tired
38:34no it's just emotional because i love you and it's hard to
38:40i don't know it's just a lot of feelings a lot of them i don't know what to do with
38:45and they
38:45don't have a home or a place to go like you know is there a chance of romance in the
38:53future
38:54i don't know you said you're good with wherever our relationship is even if that's if we're just
38:59friends right now yeah so we're friends
39:11there are people who have captured um audio of the call of a bigfoot it is like a
39:20it's a language of sorts that's beyond what we understand like through a portal
39:35i don't know if it's not going to work it's not going to work
39:52and we're out come on why come to a whole different state with your ex-boyfriend and his
40:01family if you're not necessarily going to like kind of make that effort the last straw that sort
40:08of broke the camel's back of our relationship would be when i went to celebrate his birthday
40:15with him the ice was already thin at that point he was just acting really weird i was looking at
40:22her and it was like i was seeing my ex
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