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00:15I'm working a missing person case and you said you had some information I've never dealt with
00:24anything like this ever in my life she said I am NOT a good person Katie it was just a
00:34matter of time
00:35before someone really got hurt she said I'm never going to go to jail I'll kill myself before I go
00:51to jail I'm sure that she was coming for me next
01:07in 2016 I was living in Florida my daughter and I were living together near the beach I was enjoying
01:18my job hanging out with some friends occasionally spending a lot of time with family life was good
01:26I was happy actually being single not really dating maybe meeting a few people from time to time
01:36one day I was on Facebook and I was in a few groups singles groups and I came across a
01:48lady by the name
01:49of Joyce she had a nice smile and I liked her picture suddenly I got a private message and it
01:59happened to be Joyce we exchanged phone numbers and we started talking on the phone for a while
02:07we kind of bonded over the similarities in our professions I was a home health care aide at the
02:14time and I found out that she was a registered nurse we talked and we just really enjoyed each
02:24other's conversations and we decided after about a month that we would really like to meet each other
02:29in person Joyce was living in the Atlanta area at the time she said hey why don't you come on
02:37up to
02:38Atlanta I'll show you around I was a little bit nervous but also excited that first weekend that
02:49Joyce and I spent together we were staying at the Omni Hotel in downtown Atlanta and just learned a lot
02:56more about each other she had told me that she was legally married however things were rocky and
03:04complicated and she and her wife were separated Joyce painted this beautiful picture for me she was
03:14very attractive she dressed very nicely and when we would go out for dinner she would pull out stacks of
03:23cash out of her pocket tell me I could have whatever I wanted to eat or drink Joyce also had
03:31told me that
03:31she owned a hydroclonic clinic that brought in quite a bit of money so that was pretty impressive to me
03:40she seemed to be very caring and very generous and she had everything that I was hoping for when it
03:50was time for me to go back home we didn't really want to part ways we really wanted to continue
03:56to spend more
03:56time together after I was dating Joyce for about two months she drove down to Florida to my home
04:08to visit me and we began talking about exes as you do sometimes in relationships and Joyce proceeded to
04:19tell me that a previous girlfriend had gone missing she wasn't sure what happened to her she had begun to
04:28cry
04:29and she cried for just a minute and then she seemed to get happy again and didn't talk about it
04:37anymore
04:37that day I didn't really think much about it but once Joyce went home I thought it seemed a little
04:46strange
04:55change a couple of months later I went to visit her in Conyers Georgia which is where Joyce was living
05:04she insisted that I stay in a hotel because she had some family staying in her home and I was
05:10okay
05:10with it I was just happy to see her again during that visit Joyce seemed a little more subdued so
05:21I
05:21asked her if she was okay and she said she just had a lot weighing on her mind she couldn't
05:27stop thinking
05:28about the girlfriend before her wife that had gone missing I was thinking well maybe this just happened
05:35recently she said well she went missing in 2011 that had been five years she said that the police
05:44detectives were contacting her and that they thought that maybe she had some information as to what
05:52happened I asked her if she knew what happened and she was very adamant that she just disappeared and
06:01never heard from her again by this time Joyce and I had been dating for about six months and she
06:11had
06:11brought up this missing girlfriend about four times the more I listened I finally learned that missing
06:20ex-girlfriend's name was Shondell when I returned home I thought I'm gonna find out what's going on it just
06:30kind of seemed not normal in my eyes new at 11 a family is desperate for answers after a Lithonia
06:36woman disappeared with no explanation nearly five months ago I had seen several news stories that were
06:43posted online about the missing case we believe in that no somebody knew something and wanted this lady
06:52missing but the one that really affected me the most was the one where they interviewed Shondell's mother
07:05this is how Badesia McLeod tells me she spends some days looking out the window hoping for a sign of
07:11her
07:11daughter 35 year old Shondell McLeod me being a mother myself I could never imagine if my daughter was
07:23missing and there were no answers she would never walk away from her family when the Shondell McLeod case came
07:42to
07:43me in 2011 I had been with special victims in domestic violence unit of the Cab County Police
07:49Department for roughly 11 years well after receiving the case I went to see the victim's mother she said
07:56the last time she spoke to her daughter was the day before she went missing there was a tight-knit
08:03family the day
08:05it doesn't go by that she don't speak to her daughter I knew that this wasn't just an average missing
08:12person
08:12case this wasn't a case that somebody actually got up and needed a break from their family and walked
08:17away it this was something more serious than that on the day Shondell went missing Sunday September the 25th
08:29of 2011 she was supposed to report to work at a nursing home facility where she was a cook it
08:40was her
08:40responsibility to open the kitchen she never made it to work that morning when Shondell's co-worker arrived a few
08:51hours later she found the back door slightly ajar and all the lights in the kitchen were off she was
09:02very scared at that point and went to the management to report that Shondell hadn't made it to work and
09:08the back door was open Shondell is not someone who misses work she was a very dedicated and devoted
09:17employee and when they weren't able to get her on the phone they were very concerned later that
09:25evening Shondell didn't show up to a family dinner at her mother's house so Shondell's mother contacted
09:32the police when detectives started working the case they immediately tried to determine if there
09:44was any activity that would indicate that Shondell was still alive and maybe had gone off on her
09:49own they looked at Shondell's bank account her credit cards her telephone records nothing was found
09:58I learned while speaking to Miss McLeod that her daughter was involved with a Joyce Pelzer
10:06after I learned more about Shondell I had googled Joyce's name
10:16a news story popped up that immediately listed her as a person of interest
10:23I was taken aback I wasn't quite sure what it was that I was dealing with
10:30should I cut off contact is she a terrible person but maybe what I'm reading isn't true and at this
10:44point I had fallen in love with her and wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt Joyce told
10:52me
10:52that Shondell was the type of person that wanted a lot of nice things and so she and Shondell bought
11:01a house together Joyce told me that Shondell had good credit but that Joyce had all the money and so
11:09they decided that Shondell would get the loan in her name but Joyce would pay for everything according
11:17to Joyce she put all the money down on the house she paid to have the house remodeled new floors
11:25new
11:26lighting fixtures new kitchen things seemed to be going well but a short time later Shondell just did
11:37not want to be with Joyce anymore Shondell wanted Joyce to leave
11:44Joyce was furious that Shondell broke up with her that she had kicked her out of the home
11:53in July just mere months before Shondell went missing Joyce was talking to some of their mutual
12:00friends and seemed obsessed like she couldn't leave it alone she pleaded with their mutual friends to get
12:07Shondell to talk to her and made Shondell feel very uncomfortable Joyce's behavior became really
12:16concerning to the point where Shondell got a gun she was telling people that if anything happened to
12:25her that it was Joyce Shondell reported to the police that Joyce had broken into the home that they used
12:32to
12:32live in together and threatened to kill her Shondell had to get a temporary protective order blocking Joyce
12:41Peltzer from having any contact with Shondell from what Joyce told me when Shondell was at work one day
12:51Joyce decided to go and take everything out of the house and just clean her out she had taken
13:02everything down to the light fixtures the light plate covers she took Shondell's beloved cookbook
13:11collection and threw it in the trash this was someone doing anything they could to cause pain
13:28after talking to Shondell's mother it was plain to me that this was a violent relationship so I reached out
13:36to
13:37Miss Pelzer I explained to her that I need to speak to her it's about Shondell missing she said she
13:44hadn't seen
13:45Shondell since they broke up and she said she had moved out of the home that her and Shondell shared
13:52and had moved in with
13:54Miss Rosalyn Lewis
13:58Rosalyn Lewis was a relationship that Joyce had during the course of Shondell and Joyce's relationship
14:07but Joyce is sleeping with both of them Shondell's mother was telling me this Shondell knew that Joyce is out
14:14there doing something and and she just wanted out of the relationship after speaking to Miss Pelzer on the
14:21phone her and Rosalyn Lewis came into my office I interviewed Joyce first how do you know Miss McClellan
14:35we dated for about five and a half six years when was the last time you seen her about a
14:41couple of
14:42weeks ago she had called me because she wanted some stuff that I have in the storage how was the
14:50conversation it was fine we hugged uh chatted a little while she lived with the dogs that was that
14:57what broke your locks uh she just said wasn't working anymore and she wanted something different I
15:03wanted something different I didn't really see a caring person that was in a relationship with
15:12somebody for that length of time and when I told them that they was missing it was just like it
15:17didn't
15:18phase her she said well she's not missing she told me she was going back to our country she was
15:25tired of
15:25her family and I've been interviewing the family I kind of figured that wasn't true I explained to her that
15:32I need to know the timeline
15:34of everything that happened when Miss McClellan went missing September 25th 2011.
15:42Okay let's go with uh the 25th that's gonna be Sunday what we just know it broke about like about
15:4810 something
15:49What you do up there man? Watch TV. Did you go out anytime? Nope. After getting her side of the
15:59story I spoke to Miss Lewis
16:02Ross. Ross said they was together all day they didn't leave the house during this investigation
16:10we got a search warrant on his Pelzel's cell phone. We can't say for sure where Joyce was when Shondell
16:18went
16:18missing but what we can say from her telephone records is that she was out of her home network
16:24and that is in direct contradiction to what Joyce and Rosslyn told the police. So I locked her off a
16:32false
16:33statement. At this point Joyce was my main person of interest. During this time I was monitoring her
16:42jail calls to see if I can just pick up anything on this case. My thing was eventually she's gonna
16:49talk
16:51but the lady was good she said nothing so I had to let Miss Pelzel out of the jail. Joyce
16:59told me that
17:00the police asked to see her computer but they found nothing and she kind of laughed and said of course
17:08they didn't because I have nothing to do with this. All of the evidence that we gathered points right back
17:17to Joyce but nobody's telling us how this lady went missing or where she's at. I worked this case strong
17:28for over a year but I wasn't getting enough leads on it. It's always challenging when you sort of feel
17:39in
17:39your gut that something has happened but you can't prove it. There wasn't a physical struggle at her
17:47house. There wasn't a murder weapon. There wasn't any evidence anywhere else that anything had
17:54happened to Shondell. I stayed in contact with Shondell's mother. I just wanted to bring some kind of
18:01closure to this family. I wasn't gonna stop looking for this girl. The more times that Joyce and I got
18:15together the more I thought about Shondell going missing. I had never known anybody that had been
18:23involved in a situation like this but the more that she talked about Shondell she seemed to become more
18:31agitated more defensive and a couple of times when I decided to ask Joyce for a little bit more information
18:40she would reply by saying what are you the cops? I just kind of let it go. I didn't want
18:50to cause any
18:50problems. We still had a good time. She was very loving as long as I went along with whatever it
19:00was that she
19:00wanted to do. The next time that I went to visit her I was sitting at her dining room table
19:11with her
19:12and a couple of family members. She and one of the family members got into a heated discussion and the
19:21family member stood up and looked at me to let me know that Joyce is a fraud and a phony
19:29and she uses
19:30people and told me that I needed to be careful because Joyce was still involved with her wife Rosalyn.
19:42Joyce had brought up Ros to me on several occasions but she had said that she was separated.
19:52When I asked her about the relationship she said think whatever you want Katie. I kind of got my answer
20:02without really getting an answer. I then began to wonder what else is there? What else could she possibly lie
20:12about?
20:16My first impression of Joyce was I didn't like her.
20:22Rosalyn used to always tell me Erica you know give her a try she's really nice I really like her
20:28she's funny
20:30and I was like you're being gullible and you can't see it I don't know what's wrong with this woman
20:35but
20:36she's not everything. Rosalyn to me is the big sister the friend the confidant she was everything to me.
20:48We have a huge family and everyone cared for Joyce and they welcomed her in so she was a part
20:56of our
20:56family. They were together for a very long time before they got married.
21:03Rosalyn didn't share a lot with me when it came to her relationship with Joyce once they were married
21:10but I always told my sister keep your head on a swivel and if anything go down even though I'm
21:16the
21:16little sister I'm still your sister you know. So then she started telling me that Joyce was cheating
21:25and that's when I was like whoa. Joyce was lying about where she was going who she was going out
21:31with.
21:32Lies upon lies upon lies. Ros was she was hurt. My sister went back because Joyce said it will never
21:41happen again you know. She was very manipulative and just lied about everything.
21:52After about a year of Joyce and I seeing each other, Joyce seemed to want to be in control of
22:00everything that we were doing where we would go to eat. If I was going to travel to Georgia to
22:08see her
22:08or if she was going to come and travel to see me. We would still do things together
22:16but Joyce's demeanor seemed to be increasingly aggressive as time went on.
22:23One day I was visiting her in Conyers at her home and she decided to take a shower.
22:33She got into the shower and I let her know that I was going to go to the store and
22:40that I would be
22:40right back. As I walked through the house, Joyce came flying out of the shower, grabbed me around
22:53my neck and told me that I was not going anywhere. She then moved a little closer to the kitchen
23:02counter
23:03and picked up a knife and held that against my neck.
23:09Inside I was afraid but I never let her know that I was afraid. I just remained calm.
23:17She said, you're not going to leave me. You don't leave until I tell you you can leave.
23:25And she kept squeezing my neck tighter and tighter. And I said, can you just let me go and we
23:34can go to the store.
23:38And she finally let me go. She put the knife down on the counter
23:42and then she turned around and gave me a hug and started to laugh. And she said, you know, I
23:47love you.
23:49You know, I wouldn't do anything to you.
23:53And she just proceeded about her day and acted as though none of that even ever happened.
24:02It was as if I was looking at somebody that I had never seen before.
24:07From that point on, I never showed Joyce any rejection for fear of something happening to me.
24:18One night, Joyce looked at me, kind of worried.
24:25She said, Katie, I want to tell you something.
24:31I killed Shondell.
24:40Then she proceeded to tell me what had actually happened.
24:47Shondell had gone to work early in the morning and it was still dark.
24:54Joyce had hired a hitman to take Shondell and hold her hostage for a couple of days.
25:05They rented some heavy equipment to dig a very large hole somewhere out in the north Georgia woods where nobody
25:14would ever go.
25:17And then they took her to the edge of this very large hole and they tasered her,
25:25which caused her to fall down into this hole.
25:32And they covered up the hole with dirt and left her there.
25:43After she shared this very devastating news with me, she dried her eyes and just got right back to being
25:52happy again.
25:54And I knew this girl was crazy.
26:00I didn't think about calling the police.
26:03I was completely overwhelmed and at that point I was pretty frightened.
26:12I wasn't sure what she was capable of next.
26:15I decided that I should probably distance myself from Joyce and cut off ties as quickly and as smoothly as
26:25I could.
26:28One day, I was out with some friends near my home in Florida.
26:33And I got a phone call from my mother that there was a detective trying to get in touch with
26:40me.
26:41And she gave me the phone number of a detective guest.
26:46Even though the case went cold, detective guest never gave up on it.
26:51He researched and tracked Joyce's life, who she was seeing, where she was living, and he kept tabs on her.
26:59This is a case I've been pushing for like seven, eight years.
27:03Finally, I discovered that Joyce had been in a relationship with Katie Long.
27:09I wanted to see if Joyce actually just said anything to Katie about her past.
27:17Detective Guest let me know that he was investigating a missing persons case.
27:23He wanted to know if I knew anything about Shondell going missing.
27:30And I said yes.
27:32So, I met with Detective Guest in August of 2018.
27:39Tell me exactly what was told to you by Miss Joyce Pelzer.
27:46Yes.
27:46What did she say?
27:49She said, I knocked off my ex-girlfriend, Shondell.
27:56And I said, knocked her off, meaning.
27:59And she said, Katie, I killed my ex-girlfriend.
28:05Did that scare you?
28:07Yes, very much so.
28:09I've never dealt with anything like this ever in my life.
28:13She had me fooled in the beginning.
28:16Do you think she committed this murder?
28:18I very much believe that she had to do with the murder of this girl.
28:26She said, Katie, I'm never going to go to jail.
28:29I'll kill myself before I go to jail.
28:33What Miss Long gave us was a new beginning.
28:37I believe Katie Long did not reach out to the police because she was scared of Miss Pelzer.
28:43I told her to be careful.
28:45You didn't leave Joyce Pelzer.
28:48Joyce did not like rejection.
28:51And what would happen if you left Joyce Pelzer?
28:55What happened to Shondell McCloud?
29:00After my interview with Detective Guest, he asked me to keep in touch with Joyce as much as I could,
29:08as long as I was comfortable and felt safe to do so.
29:13I had built a rapport with her where she did trust me and felt comfortable to share information with me.
29:21I wanted Katie to record her conversation with Miss Pelzer and she agreed to it.
29:29I was actually happy to do so because any little bit of information might help to either solve
29:39a situation or prevent something further from happening.
29:47Joyce called me one late afternoon and let me know that she was going to take a little road trip
29:54to New Orleans.
29:57She said there's just something I have to take care of and it's going to be taken care of.
30:04I knew that Joyce was referring to her estranged wife, Rosalyn, because she had told me that she had relocated
30:12to New Orleans.
30:14Ros had come to New Orleans to take care of my dad.
30:17I knew that at that time, her and Joyce were already separated. She had already told her that she wanted
30:22a divorce.
30:25In Rosalyn's and Joyce's marriage and financial situation, Rosalyn did hold down the fort.
30:33Joyce was lying about her job, lying about going to work, not paying some of the bills.
30:40So Rosalyn, she cut all the lights off. She didn't stop paying utilities. Rosalyn took her name off.
30:47The lease, Joyce was calling billions and billions of times, telling her to come home.
30:55She missed her wife. She's sorry. But Rosalyn, she was fed up and she was done.
31:02Up until that point, Ros had never mentioned that Joyce could be dangerous.
31:12On that phone call, Joyce started to tell me about a little .25 handgun that she had purchased
31:20from a guy off the streets in Atlanta.
31:25So I went and grabbed my old cell phone.
31:30I put the phone call on speaker and recorded with my other phone.
31:37She seemed to be on a mission.
31:42Yea.
31:42You want to put a bullet in her head?
31:45Yea.
31:46Uh-huh.
31:49You said if you killed her, you wish .
31:52Go underground?
31:54Yea.
31:55Do you head underground?
32:02For the rest of your life?
32:03Nor'n recommending.
32:04Only the river.
32:08In the tape, Joyce is telling Katie
32:10she's going to lure Rosalind back to Georgia,
32:14get a hotel room, and when she pulls up,
32:16get in the car with her and just shoot her.
32:19She also says, I wanted to call Detective Guest
32:23and tell him that Roz killed Shondell.
32:27So Joyce was going to set up Roz to take the fall
32:30for Shondell McCloud's murder.
32:33When I was recording the phone call,
32:36I was becoming increasingly nervous
32:39about something happening to Roz.
32:43I knew that she was serious.
32:47After I spoke with Joyce on the phone,
32:49I thought that Roz should know what Joyce's plans were.
32:54So I contacted her through Facebook.
32:58Being the other woman,
33:00I was thinking maybe she would be angry with me.
33:04But she, in fact, was very willing to talk to me.
33:09I told her that I thought that Joyce was after her.
33:13I said, she's on her way there,
33:15and she's looking for you.
33:18Roz was very adamant about going
33:22to the police station immediately.
33:33My wife is here in town.
33:37She threatened me a few weeks back.
33:41Her, well, I guess now it's her ex-girlfriend
33:44because the woman, don't mess with her anymore,
33:46called me and said that Joyce is in town,
33:50and she says that she's going to kill you.
33:56And when I pulled in my parents' driveway,
33:58as I was backing up into the driveway,
34:01I saw her start her car and come that way.
34:03She had her head turned,
34:05but I know what she looks like.
34:07We had been together for 14 years,
34:08so I definitely know what she looks like.
34:11I don't think that she would call the police
34:12in a long fucking time ago.
34:17The night that Joyce drove down to New Orleans,
34:21Joyce thought that only Roz was at home with my dad.
34:24But once she got there,
34:26I had cousins that was also there,
34:28and I think that's what spooked her
34:30and scared her away.
34:34Y'all need to find out where she is
34:35because I don't know what her plans are
34:37because she threatened to kill me.
34:53I don't know what her plans to make her do this.
34:58I've been good for this woman.
35:01And she'll have to try to kill me now.
35:04Kill me, come here.
35:07I'm not understanding.
35:12It is frightening to know that
35:14someone who my sister brought into our life
35:16could potentially want to harm her.
35:20At that point for me,
35:22that's when it got real.
35:23I didn't know the extent of how crazy Joyce was.
35:32Katie called Rozlyn and told her that she probably need to call a detective guest.
35:38At this point, Roz is afraid for her life.
35:42I drove all night getting to New Orleans.
35:45When I got to town,
35:46I went to Roz's house.
35:49I said, well, why?
35:50Why does she want to kill you?
35:51I said, what do you think?
35:53Why does she want to kill you?
35:56Rozlyn Lewis was so fearful of Joyce,
35:58she told me nothing.
35:59She told me nothing about Shondell McCloud's case,
36:04Joyce's involvement in that.
36:05She said nothing.
36:08I told Roz, you need to be careful
36:11because she's going to be coming after you next.
36:15Rozlyn wanted a divorce from Joyce.
36:18She said, I'm never going back.
36:20She's lied to me too many times.
36:22She won't stop cheating.
36:23She's crazy.
36:26But Joyce was not willing to sign those papers.
36:29Her whole thing was, Rozlyn, I'm going to do better.
36:32I will be a better wife.
36:33I will be a better friend.
36:35I will be a better lover.
36:37So let's give us another chance.
36:42Several months later,
36:44Joyce called me and she was pretty upset.
36:48I tried to get any other information out of her that I could,
36:54but she just wasn't doing a whole lot of talking
36:58and she let me know she was going to go back to her wife
37:01and for me to never call her again.
37:06She didn't want Rozlyn to go.
37:08Rozlyn was adamant.
37:09She was like, I'm just going to fly up there
37:11and I'm going to make her sign these papers.
37:14And I remember telling her,
37:16Rozlyn, are you crazy?
37:18No, you're not going to go fly anywhere where Joyce is
37:22to get her sign the papers.
37:23This girl could be crazy
37:25and you don't know what she would do.
37:27No, absolutely not.
37:42Conny's 911, where's your emergency?
37:45Oh, yes, ma'am.
37:45I'm calling from Motel 6, Conny.
37:47Motel 6, Conny.
37:48What's going on there?
37:50Somebody's screaming and hollering.
37:54I think there's a stabbing.
37:55Can you send somebody immediately, officer?
37:58We're sending someone.
38:06On December the 10th at about 1035,
38:09Conyers police received a call of a trouble unknown
38:12at the Motel 6 located in the city of Conyers.
38:16They said it was a stabbing.
38:22When I arrived,
38:23the first-respondent officer was already there.
38:31She's bleeding profusely from the abdomen.
38:33We was able to identify the female as Rosalyn.
38:37Ros, listen to me.
38:40I need you to hold still, okay?
38:42You're okay.
38:43I need you to hold still, okay?
38:46Rosalyn is laying in the doorway.
38:48Blood's on the door.
38:49It's all over the room.
38:51598 radio.
38:52We've got multiple stab wounds.
38:54She's in and out of consciousness, breathing pretty heavily at this time.
38:58We knew that we had a serious situation that had happened and it didn't look very promising for Rosalyn at
39:04the time.
39:04Ros.
39:06Who did this?
39:09Who?
39:10Joyce.
39:11Joyce?
39:12Yeah.
39:13Okay.
39:14Do you know Joyce's last name?
39:17Pelser?
39:18Yes.
39:19Who is she to you?
39:22She's your wife?
39:24Okay.
39:26You're doing good.
39:27You're doing good.
39:28Just hang tight for me, okay?
39:32Once I learned that Roz was stabbed by a female named Joyce, who was her wife, I then started assigning
39:39duties for people to try to identify who Joyce was.
39:44Meanwhile, EMS had arrived and were attending to Rosalyn.
39:49She was really fighting hard for her life.
39:52She was definitely a fighter.
39:58Once we were able to get Rosalyn to the ambulance, we could really investigate the crime scene.
40:08It was obvious it was a violent attack inside that room.
40:13We did observe a knife laying on the floor that was covered in blood.
40:19It was one of the worst crime scenes I've been on.
40:25Reviewing the video of the room, you could tell by the movement of the curtains that there was an outright
40:31fight inside the room.
40:33It almost appeared at one point that someone was trying to yell through the window because the curtain held open
40:40for a moment before it quickly closed back.
40:43The door opens and Joyce exits the room and Rosalyn falls to the ground inside the doorway.
40:51I observed Joyce walking toward her vehicle on the sidewalk with no shoes on and only was wearing socks.
41:01She then got into a little trot to her car where she got in the car and then exited the
41:06parking lot at a high rate of speed.
41:14Rosalyn had been stabbed 34 times by Joyce.
41:19She was transported to the hospital, but unfortunately, she succumbed to her injuries.
41:27I was home with some friends and I get a phone call to find out that my sister had been
41:35murdered by Joyce.
41:38The most horrific phone call I've ever had gotten.
41:44It didn't register in my head that Joyce could have stabbed my sister to death.
41:54I can't even scream because I'm so numb.
42:00I'm so in disbelief.
42:03This is a dream and someone is lying to me.
42:07It wasn't a dream.
42:09Joyce murdered my sister in cold blood.
42:14About three hours after the initial call to the hotel, we were working a full-blown murder investigation at this
42:20point.
42:21What we had learned was Joyce had kind of lured Rosalyn to the hotel room.
42:26Rosalyn went there.
42:28What we feel was the intent to serve divorce papers on Joyce.
42:35Could that have provoked Joyce to stab my sister as many times as she did?
42:41I believe that rage came from somewhere and she unleashed it on my sister.
42:52We have no idea where Joyce may be headed, but we needed to make sure we could find her as
42:58fast as possible.
43:00We obtained the phone number for Joyce and we contacted the phone company and requested a ping on the phone
43:08so we can determine the direction that she may be traveling.
43:11While we were waiting to get the ping back from the phone, we found out that she had a past
43:16with female identified as Katie Long.
43:21When our ping returned about two hours after the request, the phone pings indicated to us that Joyce was headed
43:29south toward Florida.
43:33We learned that Katie Long resided in Florida.
43:38We were afraid that her life may be in danger because she knows she had killed Shondale.
43:45My phone starts to ring and it's Joyce.
43:49I did not answer the call.
43:52We continued to get pings on Joyce's phone.
43:56Every ping we got, she was getting closer to Florida.
44:00She continued to call approximately 25 times.
44:06Georgia State Patrol saw Joyce Pelzel's vehicle on I-75 south and attempted to initiate a traffic stop on her.
44:18She refused to stop and began to increase her speed.
44:24Georgia State Patrol decided to initiate a pit maneuver on the car.
44:35When Georgia State Patrol got Joyce's car immobilized and they were approaching the vehicle,
44:44Joyce raises a gun and points it toward the direction of the officers.
44:48They began to open fire on the vehicle.
44:57Striking Joyce one time in the neck.
45:01At approximately 2.30 p.m., the call stopped.
45:12Joyce did not die from a gunshot wound.
45:16She was transported to a local hospital for treatment of her injuries.
45:21When she didn't die from that incident, it was like the lady had nine lives.
45:29On early Tuesday morning, December 11th, 2018, I got a phone call from Detective Guest.
45:37And all he said was,
45:40Roz is dead.
45:41Joyce is in custody.
45:43I will be in touch.
45:47I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that she killed Roz.
45:53I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that she could have been coming to also kill me.
46:03Once she was able to be released from the hospital, she was then transported to Rockdale County Jail for the
46:09charge of murder of Roz.
46:12Now that Joyce is in jail, and I had the opportunity to interview her once again,
46:19hopefully she would, at this point, tell me what exactly happened to Shondell McCloud.
46:25Ms. Prozer, what we're going to do is we're going to be questioning you about Shondell McCloud being missing.
46:31One thing I can pretty much remember from that is that I ended up leaving the household for the second
46:39party.
46:40Who was the second party?
46:41Ms. Rosalyn Lewis.
46:43Okay.
46:44Ms. She was jealous of Shondell.
46:46How was she killed?
46:48Ms. I'm not sure if they shot her or if they know how they just pushed it, I'm not sure.
46:54When they picked her up, was a taser used on her?
46:57Because Roz had to come back and give you details. She had to boast about it.
47:02Roz cursed me out.
47:05And she said it was handled.
47:09Joyce ends up telling the police exactly what she said she was going to do in the phone call to
47:15Katie Long.
47:16She blamed Rosalyn, and she said that she was just a bystander.
47:20But no one believed it.
47:24The allegations that Joyce have made toward my sister is the most disrespectful, beyond evil.
47:33And the reason why you're blaming things on Rozalyn is because she's not here to defend herself.
47:39Do I believe that Rozalyn had anything at all to do with the Shondell's murder? Absolutely not.
47:45Is Shondell buried in that park, Arabian Park?
47:52Shondell.
47:53Okay.
47:55After we did a search on Arabian Mountain, we didn't find Shondell's body there.
48:02We found nothing.
48:03But I felt I had enough evidence to charge Joyce Pelzer for the murder of Shondell McLeod.
48:21Ultimately, Joyce Pelzer took a plea offer out in Rockdale County to the murder charges involving Rosalyn Lewis.
48:32We went to the hearing for her to be sentenced.
48:35When Joyce walked out of the doors into the courtroom, she showed no signs of remorse.
48:43When she was asked to say something, she held her head down and she never answered.
48:50You're sitting there in a courtroom with people who adored Rozalyn.
48:58And you don't have anything to say to this family.
49:02Not even an I'm sorry.
49:08You should ride in jail for the rest of your life.
49:26After Joyce was sentenced, Detective Guest came back to the DeKalb County District Attorney's Office
49:33and asked us to take another look at the suspected murder of Shondell McLeod.
49:40Detective Guest pointed out to us that we now had a third party confession from Katie Long.
49:48I knew that we had a case that we could present to a jury.
49:52It was the state's theory that Joyce was enraged about the breakup, about losing the home, and had decided to
50:01seek revenge.
50:04We believe that Shondell was kidnapped from her work and then held for some amount of time for ultimately being
50:11taken to the Arabia Mountain area where she was killed and buried.
50:16No body was recovered.
50:18But at this point, we have motive, we have opportunity, and we have a confession.
50:32In November 2023, I attended Joyce's trial and testified against her regarding her confession in the murder of Shondell.
50:43I had not seen Joyce since 2018.
50:48I was sitting in the stand watching her walk across the courtroom floor being escorted by two guards with chains
50:58around her ankles and handcuffs on her arms.
51:03And it was very chilling for me, very emotional to see her in a completely different light than the day
51:16that I had met her.
51:19When I was on the stand and answering questions, I actually stopped in the middle and broke down.
51:29She never looked up from the table, not once.
51:43Shondell's family will never get her back.
51:46And this verdict and the sentence that Joyce will have to serve doesn't change that.
51:54But there is now some measure of justice.
52:01This case is important to me because I'm a father myself.
52:04I have daughters.
52:05And if one of my kids went missing, God forbid, I would want somebody to work it the same way
52:13that I worked it.
52:16No parent should have to lose a child in the hands of somebody else and not let it be investigated
52:24all the way through.
52:29I feel very lucky to be alive today.
52:33I am extremely confident that after Joyce carried out the murder of Roz, I'm sure that she was coming for
52:42me next.
52:45I am mostly back to my old self, happy, enjoying life.
52:51I will be honest and say that the situation with Joyce still to this day affects my life.
52:59I don't think it's something that I will ever completely get over, but I have learned to cope with it.
53:26It's all about zar of the pain.
53:29I don't think that the pain will always be right.
53:29It can't help.
53:32It feels like a lot to cope with it.
53:32And I think that you can't like this.
53:33So, if you're a man who's keeping up with it,
53:36I mean I could just let you know what you're trying.
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