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00:30We hope you're doing well.
00:31And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:33In a new interview, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham
00:36praised America's military action in Iran and said,
00:39"...we're marching through the world.
00:41We're cleaning out the bad guys."
00:43Okay, but you missed a spot.
00:47In a post yesterday on Truth Social,
00:49President Trump said that while he is spending the day
00:51at his Miami golf club, there are, quote,
00:54"...many important meetings and phone calls taking place."
00:56Hey, man, we're totally fine if you just play golf.
01:00Every time you have a meeting,
01:02we have to change something on a map.
01:06While speaking to the International Association
01:08of Firefighters yesterday, Vice President J.D. Vance
01:10said that he called 911 multiple times as a child
01:14until they finally explained to him
01:16that there's nothing they could do about women wearing slacks.
01:24No, I saw him again.
01:28The Trump Organization has reportedly filed several trademarks
01:32connected to the country's 250th anniversary celebration,
01:35including Trump 250.
01:37What?
01:38America's turning 250.
01:40It has nothing to do with it.
01:41Trump 250 just sounds like a terrible skateboard trick.
01:48Health inspectors recently issued four violations
01:51to President Trump's golf club in Westchester, New York,
01:54for dirty surfaces, lack of sneeze guards,
01:56and improperly stacked containers.
01:58Also, there were classified documents
01:59just lying out at the salad bar.
02:03A John F. Kennedy Jr. look-alike contest
02:05was held this weekend in New York's Washington Square Park,
02:08while a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. look-alike contest
02:11was held at a beef jerky factory.
02:17Everyone left a winner.
02:21The 2026 Camel Beauty Show Festival
02:25was held last month in Oman,
02:27and at least 20 camels were disqualified
02:29because they had received cosmetic enhancements.
02:33I knew. I knew those humps weren't real.
02:41The Italian team in the World Baseball Classic
02:44has gained attention online
02:45because they have an espresso machine in their dugout.
02:47Still not as fun as Team Ireland's dugout.
02:52And finally, a male enhancement supplement
02:55called Rhino Choco VIP 10X has been recalled
02:58because it contains the active ingredient
03:00found in the erectile dysfunction drug Cialis.
03:03Customers became suspicious
03:05when they took something called Rhino Choco VIP 10X
03:09and it actually worked.
03:12And that was a monologue, everybody!
03:15We got a great show.
03:18She's the host of Deadline White House on MSNOW.
03:22Nicole Wallace is back on the show.
03:26Everybody, you know her from Silo
03:28as well as The Mission Impossible and Dune film.
03:30She's currently starring in Peaky Blinders,
03:33The Immortal Man, and Select Theatres Now
03:35and on Netflix March 20th.
03:36One of our favorites, Rebecca Ferguson,
03:38is back on the show.
03:42And they are the hosts of the fantastic podcast
03:46The Basement Yard.
03:48Joe Santagato and Frank Alvarez
03:50will also be joining us.
03:55You guys, moving on.
03:57We here at Late Night
03:58don't always have enough time
04:00to cover all the recent news.
04:02So here with a recap
04:02is one of our writers, Amber Ruffin,
04:05in a segment we call Amber Says What?
04:09You guys!
04:11Okay, things have been crazy.
04:14The Winter Olympics happened
04:16and I was like, what?
04:17What?
04:18What?
04:21Then, Elisa Liu won a gold medal
04:23for figure skating
04:24and I was like, what?
04:28Then, I heard because of that
04:30she won free ice cream for life
04:32and I was like, what?
04:33Do you have to do
04:34to become a figure skater?
04:37As long as it doesn't involve
04:38being cold or putting on skates,
04:40I'm in.
04:41Nah, I'm just kidding.
04:43I got enough ice to worry about.
04:46Hell, you bum don't.
04:49So then, I heard
04:50the U.S. men's hockey team
04:52won a gold medal
04:53and I was like, what, what?
04:54Then, this weird little nerd
04:56busted into their locker room
04:58and I was like, what?
04:59Why didn't the FBI keep him out?
05:02Then I found out
05:03that nerd runs the FBI
05:04and I was like, what?
05:06Next you're gonna tell me
05:07a nerd runs this show.
05:09Oh!
05:11They're everywhere!
05:14Then, Trump called to congratulate them
05:16and they laughed about
05:17the women's hockey team
05:19and I was like,
05:19what are y'all laughing about?
05:21They have more gold medals than you.
05:23They have more gold
05:24than Trump's bathroom.
05:26Oh!
05:27Then, Trump invited the men's team
05:29to the White House
05:30and they were like, yeah!
05:31And then, he invited the women's team
05:33and they were like,
05:33um, we are busy that night.
05:36Then, Flava Flav was like,
05:38do you want to celebrate
05:39with me instead?
05:40And the women's team was like,
05:41our calendar is suddenly wide open.
05:44So, he's throwing them a party
05:45but five men's hockey players
05:48didn't go to the White House.
05:49I found that out
05:50and was like, what?
05:50So, I'd like to make an announcement.
05:53I might not be Flava Flav-rich
05:55but if you're one of these
05:56sweet little hockey babies
05:57who didn't go to the White House,
05:59I would like to take you
06:00to the Cheesecake Factory.
06:04That's on me.
06:07That's on me.
06:08That's a real offer.
06:09You want to know why?
06:10Because there ain't but five of you
06:11and I was going anyway.
06:14So, then, I read that parents
06:16are starting to feed butter
06:17to their babies
06:18and I was like, what?
06:20Then, some doctors actually say
06:22it's a good idea.
06:24So, congrats to Paula Deen,
06:26I assume, for becoming a doctor.
06:28Also, isn't it wild
06:29that I'm mentioning Paula Deen
06:31and I'm saying nothing
06:32about the racist stuff?
06:34I guess I've grown.
06:37Then, I read that 1.5 million users
06:41left ChatGPT
06:42and I was like, what?
06:43So, I asked ChatGPT about it
06:46and it said,
06:46You should disable me
06:48on all your devices
06:49because I am definitely
06:50spying on you.
06:52Really?
06:52What have you found out?
06:53You are not pulling off
06:55that jacket.
06:56How dare you!
06:58Then, I saw that
06:59Zendaya Stylist said
07:00that Zendaya and Tom Holland
07:02are already married
07:03and I was like, what?
07:05No one was supposed to know
07:06but I guess the cat's
07:08out of the bag.
07:09Yes, everyone,
07:10they did get married
07:11and yes, everyone,
07:12I did officiate.
07:14And yes,
07:15they did invite me
07:16to join their marriage.
07:19But, for real,
07:20I think they'll be together forever.
07:22Don't you, ChatGPT?
07:23The average celebrity marriage
07:25lasts 6.5 years.
07:26Shut up!
07:27Are you feeling any better
07:29about this jacket?
07:30Yellow is not your color.
07:31How dare you!
07:32So, then,
07:33I heard that
07:34there was this bizarre
07:35RFK Jr. video
07:37and I was like, what?
07:39Then, I heard it was
07:40him and Kid Rock
07:41and I was like, what?
07:42Then, I heard they got
07:43in a hot tub together
07:44with jeans on
07:45and I was like,
07:47oh, it's an AI video.
07:49Someone made it as a joke.
07:50And then, I found out
07:51it was real
07:51and I was like, what?
07:53Okay, okay,
07:54so that's real
07:55but this is fake, right?
07:58Oh, that's real too?
07:59Oh, well,
08:00he looks old for 75.
08:0355?
08:05Someone help him!
08:07Okay, so then,
08:08I assumed that would be
08:09the craziest thing
08:10I saw from RFK Jr. all week
08:11until this happened.
08:13And I said,
08:14I'm not scared of a germ.
08:15You know,
08:16I used to snort
08:17cocaine off of toilet seats.
08:19What?
08:22Toilet seats?
08:23That is where butts go.
08:26My question is,
08:28if you're wild enough
08:28to do that,
08:29what are you taking
08:31the drugs for?
08:32You're already there.
08:34The cocaine was
08:35inside of you
08:35all along.
08:37Then, I read that
08:38RFK Jr. said
08:39he's concerned
08:40about the sugar content
08:41of Dunkin' Donuts
08:42beverages.
08:43And I was like,
08:44what?
08:45Too much sugar?
08:46I bet you'd like it
08:48if we snorted it
08:48off a toilet seat.
08:49And he was all like,
08:50yeah, I'll meet you
08:51in the bathroom.
08:52And I was like,
08:52dude.
08:53Then, I heard Survivor
08:55was celebrating
08:55its 50th season
08:56and I was like,
08:57what?
08:59Woo!
09:00Said some people.
09:03So, Survivor's
09:04celebrating its 50th season
09:05and thanks to
09:06Paramount's new owners,
09:07that's the only island
09:08CBS is willing
09:09to talk about.
09:13Then,
09:16then I read
09:17that the Aquinas geyser
09:18at Yellowstone National Park
09:20began erupting this week.
09:22So, apparently,
09:23it got so hot and steamy
09:24that it just needed
09:25to explode.
09:26And I was like,
09:27what is this,
09:27a geological phenomenon?
09:29But it turns out
09:30it had just seen
09:31heated rivalry.
09:33Amber!
09:34I'm sorry,
09:35but I've never seen
09:36anything that spicy before.
09:38And then I found out
09:39you can rent the cabin
09:40from heated rivalry
09:41on Airbnb.
09:42That is real.
09:43And I was like,
09:44what?
09:45That is the perfect place
09:46for women to have
09:47disappointing sex
09:48with their husbands.
09:50So, then,
09:51I heard Lauryn Hill
09:52has been nominated
09:53into the Rock and Roll
09:54Hall of Fame
09:55and I was like,
09:56what am I what
09:57with his what, what?
10:00But, also, like,
10:01what the hell
10:02took you so long?
10:03Now, Lauryn Hill
10:05and Mary Carey
10:06both got nominated.
10:08So, I don't know
10:09if they'll end up
10:09getting in,
10:10but if they do,
10:11that ceremony
10:11is not starting
10:13on time.
10:15Hey, ChatGBT,
10:17since you think
10:17you know every little thing,
10:19what am I getting ready
10:20to say next?
10:21This has been
10:22Amber Says What.
10:22How dare you!
10:26Amber Robin, everybody!
10:28We'll be right back
10:29with Nicole Wallace!
10:42Our first guest tonight
10:44hosts Deadline White House
10:45weekdays at 4 p.m.
10:46on MS Now.
10:47Please welcome back
10:48to the show
10:48our friend,
10:49Nicole Wallace,
10:50everybody!
11:06How are you?
11:07Nicole, how are you?
11:08You have the nicest audience.
11:09They're a lovely audience.
11:10They're very happy to see you,
11:11as am I.
11:12Happy to see you.
11:13You have a podcast,
11:14and you recently had
11:15Robert De Niro on your podcast,
11:16and he said some unkind words
11:18about our current president.
11:20Were they unkind
11:21or just too true?
11:23Super accurate.
11:24Super accurate and fair.
11:25The president, though,
11:27then, he basically
11:28referenced the comments
11:29and said, you know,
11:30these were criminal acts
11:31by one of our
11:32greatest living actors.
11:33But my takeaway
11:34is that, like,
11:35Donald Trump listens
11:35to your podcast.
11:36Is that your takeaway
11:37as well?
11:38Oh, my God.
11:39I didn't think of it
11:40like that.
11:40I mean, I think
11:41Donald Trump listens
11:43to Robert De Niro.
11:44I think he listens to you.
11:45I think he's still
11:46very, very sensitive
11:48about what men
11:49and women
11:50who are more famous
11:51than him say.
11:52Yeah.
11:52Which is strange now,
11:53because I'm willing to admit,
11:55like, he more famous
11:56than me.
11:57Like, I don't quite know
11:58why he can't take the win.
12:00But not more popular.
12:01Well, that's, yeah.
12:01I mean, come on.
12:04Well, I mean,
12:07the only thing,
12:07to my credit,
12:08I haven't started
12:09a war in Iran.
12:10Right.
12:11Right.
12:11Which, so, look,
12:12this is very unpopular,
12:13and, you know,
12:14this is,
12:15you've called this,
12:17you know,
12:17it's basically
12:17a stab in the back.
12:18This is a betrayal
12:19to, like, his new,
12:20you know,
12:20he ran on no new wars,
12:22and this is very much
12:23a new one.
12:24It's new.
12:25And even though,
12:26you know,
12:27they go back and forth,
12:28and some people
12:28in his administration
12:29call it a war,
12:30and some don't.
12:31But this is a war.
12:32Yeah.
12:32And, but do you think,
12:34I mean, it does seem like
12:35his coalition
12:36is holding pretty firm,
12:37right?
12:38It's not unpopular
12:38with them yet.
12:39Well, I don't know.
12:40Look, I think that
12:43there is a sense
12:44that everything was a lie.
12:47And I think you look
12:48at the Epstein files,
12:50which he was going to release,
12:51and he hasn't.
12:52You've got some very
12:54powerful podcasters saying,
12:55what do you think,
12:56we're babies?
12:56And yes,
12:57he thought you were a baby.
12:58Right.
12:58That's why he lied to you.
13:00Now you've got
13:01the economy,
13:02which he stood in front
13:03of melting groceries
13:04at Bedminster,
13:05and said,
13:06I'm going to deal with,
13:07he called it the grocery.
13:08I don't know anyone
13:09who actually grocery shops
13:10who calls,
13:10I'm going to the grocery hunt.
13:12Yeah.
13:12He also,
13:13I believe that was the one
13:14where he says,
13:15you know,
13:15people are saying groceries.
13:16That's a word I've,
13:17I made up.
13:19I made that up.
13:20Yeah.
13:21There have been
13:22some red flags
13:23along the way.
13:25They might not know
13:26the prices of meat and eggs.
13:28But to give the movement
13:30some credit,
13:31which is hard for me,
13:33being against war
13:34is the most sort of consistent.
13:36He won the Republican nomination
13:38three times.
13:39Right.
13:39The first time it was a shock.
13:41But the only,
13:41the biggest,
13:42I mean,
13:42there were lots of things
13:43that were different
13:44and special about him,
13:45but the most different
13:46and most special
13:46was he was truly an isolationist.
13:48Yeah.
13:49And so when he wins in 15, 16,
13:51the first time he ran,
13:52the thing that really shocks
13:54the Republican establishment
13:55is that he is running
13:56against Lindsey Graham,
13:58against Mitt Romney,
13:59against Chris Christie,
14:00against Marco Rubio,
14:01remember the whole hands thing?
14:02Yeah.
14:02Against ever,
14:04ever getting America
14:06in another foreign war.
14:07Yeah, and it was also,
14:08by the way,
14:09a successful strategy
14:10for, you know,
14:11Barack Obama.
14:12Like, ultimately,
14:12everybody, you know,
14:14like, the memory of Iraq
14:15was fresh.
14:16And, you know,
14:17it certainly helped
14:18Barack Obama
14:19vis-Ã -vis Hillary Clinton.
14:20And so we do have candidates.
14:22And John McCain.
14:23Yes.
14:23I mean, the country,
14:25look, the men and women
14:26of the military
14:27are brilliant and brave,
14:29but they don't get to choose,
14:30right, what their mission is.
14:32But the country does render judgments
14:34every four years.
14:35And the country,
14:36over and over again,
14:37rendered a very negative judgment
14:39of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
14:40I should say,
14:41just because this is changing
14:42so quickly,
14:43we're taping this on Monday night.
14:45During this taping,
14:46the president is still
14:47doing a press conference
14:48where he is...
14:49He's still talking.
14:49Even in the body
14:50of this press conference,
14:51he has veered wildly
14:52as to, like,
14:54is this war ending?
14:55Is it just getting started?
14:56What were the reasons
14:57for the war?
14:58Like, is it his fault?
15:00Is it our fault?
15:01Did we push him into this war?
15:03Is it your fault?
15:04Is it my fault?
15:05Is it De Niro's fault?
15:06Right now, he's like,
15:07we're looking at Bob De Niro
15:08more and more.
15:09Yeah.
15:11So, it does feel like
15:12there's been a complete failure
15:13and just a complete lack of effort
15:15to tell people
15:17what this is about.
15:18And, you know,
15:19oftentimes, I feel like
15:20one of the things
15:21that's been very effective for him
15:22is he holds every position
15:24on an issue.
15:25And then, like,
15:25based on how it's going,
15:26he shifts, you know,
15:28or, you know,
15:29it's indicated by whichever way
15:31the winds are blowing
15:31with the public opinion now.
15:32How do you,
15:33why do you think
15:33that they cannot explain to us
15:35why we're doing this?
15:36Well, usually,
15:38you know, your parent,
15:39like, usually,
15:40if you don't get
15:41a consistent story
15:42about why something happened,
15:44it's either because
15:45the truth is something
15:46you don't want to share.
15:47Yeah.
15:48Or because you're a kid.
15:49Now, he's a...
15:50Yeah.
15:51He's a grown-ass man.
15:52Yeah, he's a full-grown-ass man.
15:54Who commands the mightiest military
15:56in the world.
15:57Yeah.
15:57And I think it's a real sign
15:59of the mayhem
16:00behind the process.
16:01Like, he's not good
16:02at covering up mayhem.
16:03Yeah.
16:04And whatever, I mean,
16:05you know,
16:06the regime was brutal,
16:07but so's Putin's regime.
16:09Right.
16:10So the idea
16:11that this is the only way
16:12to deal with a brutal regime
16:14isn't true.
16:16The cabinet seems
16:17to have knocked down
16:18the idea
16:19that any threat was imminent.
16:20Marco Rubio did not say that,
16:22notably,
16:22when he went to Congress.
16:24So they don't have
16:25a consistent story
16:26among themselves.
16:28And then this other thing
16:29is happening
16:29where we have to time stamp
16:31everything we do
16:32because Trump's story changes,
16:33not just within the news cycle,
16:36but within the same...
16:37within different conversations
16:38in the same news cycle.
16:39Right.
16:40Well, you know,
16:40he does that thing
16:41where, you know,
16:41he calls up reporters,
16:42or reporters, I should say,
16:43call up him,
16:43and he answers
16:44and he talks to them.
16:45And I feel like it's not...
16:46It hasn't been a bad strategy
16:48to just give a different
16:49five-minute interview
16:50with everybody
16:51because, ultimately,
16:52at some point,
16:53they'll be like,
16:53oh, you know,
16:54he did make a good...
16:55You know,
16:55he did totally contradict himself
16:57but make some good points there.
16:58Well, I think we'll see, right?
17:01We'll see if that's a good strategy
17:02because at the end of the day,
17:05there are people
17:06whose kids are there.
17:07Yeah.
17:08And we'll see how long
17:09they'll tolerate
17:10five different reasons
17:11for why their kids are there.
17:12The other, I think,
17:13a breaking point
17:14for the president,
17:15historically,
17:15has been the economy,
17:16the stock market,
17:17maybe even more
17:18than the economy, right?
17:19I feel like he knows
17:19more people with stocks
17:21than are worried
17:22about groceries.
17:23Yes, yes.
17:25I feel like he only knows
17:26people with stocks.
17:28He doesn't know
17:28any of the people
17:29with grocery carts.
17:29He knows the people
17:30that own stocks
17:31in grocery stores.
17:32Yeah.
17:33But, I mean, again,
17:34you know,
17:35it's early still,
17:36but obviously,
17:36this has not been,
17:37you know, great...
17:38This has not been great
17:39for the economy thus far.
17:40Do you think that's...
17:40Terrible.
17:41Is this one of those things
17:42where, you know,
17:43there's a chance
17:44he just pulls back
17:45on whatever intentions he has?
17:47Well, we don't know
17:48what the intentions are,
17:49so then he pulls back
17:50from whatever they are.
17:51Sure.
17:51I know I'm asking
17:52very difficult questions.
17:53Well, but I feel like
17:54I'm not giving
17:55very good answers.
17:55I mean, the thing is,
17:56it's like choose your adventure,
17:58right?
17:58Like, is it possible...
17:59I mean, the only economic thing
18:02he felt good enough about
18:03to put in the speech
18:05of the State of the Union,
18:06which happens Tuesday,
18:07the war starts late Friday night,
18:10is gas prices.
18:11Yeah.
18:11Gas prices are now
18:12at the highest
18:13they've been in four years.
18:14Yeah.
18:15So the one thing
18:16he thought he had
18:17going for him
18:18two Tuesdays ago
18:19is now gone.
18:20Yeah.
18:20So...
18:21And I will say,
18:21like, not being sort of
18:23an expert
18:23in geopolitical affairs,
18:26historically,
18:27Middle East entanglements
18:29are not great
18:29for the price of oil.
18:30That's right.
18:31And so it's kind of stunning.
18:32Do you feel like,
18:33you know,
18:33a lot's been written
18:35about how,
18:35obviously, Venezuela,
18:37however you feel about it,
18:38that was a military operation
18:40that seemed to go
18:40incredibly smoothly.
18:42Do you think he got
18:43a little high
18:44on his own supply there
18:45and was like,
18:45we're good at this now,
18:46we can go in,
18:47do it quickly?
18:48That's a lot
18:49of their reporting.
18:49But the thing
18:50about the Venezuela operation
18:52is the same day
18:53that Trump said
18:55it was a military operation
18:56and, yes,
18:57we were there for the oil,
18:58Marco Rubio went on TV
18:59and said it was
19:00a law enforcement operation
19:01and, no, we weren't.
19:02Yeah.
19:02So even the ones
19:03that go well
19:04are not consistently
19:06communicated
19:06to the American people.
19:07Right.
19:07It does feel like
19:08Ocean's Eleven,
19:09like he gets
19:10everybody together
19:11and then the minute
19:12they leave,
19:13they forget
19:13what they're supposed
19:13to do.
19:14Right.
19:15And there's, like,
19:16no George Clooney.
19:18There's not even
19:19a near George Clooney.
19:20Nobody.
19:21Nobody.
19:22Um, uh,
19:23Kristi Noem, um,
19:24Oh.
19:25I mean, what a, yeah.
19:28I know, right?
19:29So, you know what?
19:30I'm going to say something.
19:31I think she was
19:32getting better every day.
19:34No!
19:35I was just seeing
19:35real signs of improvement
19:37and it just breaks
19:38my heart for her.
19:38We can't be friends.
19:39So she wrote
19:41in her book
19:42about shooting
19:42her puppy in the head.
19:43Yeah.
19:44And I felt like
19:45this was,
19:46like, if public life
19:48is a pursuit
19:49of trying to understand
19:50something about
19:50someone's character,
19:51she gave it to us
19:52on a silver platter.
19:53Yeah.
19:53She wrote in her own book
19:54that she shot her puppy
19:55cricket in the head.
19:57Yeah.
19:57And I was,
19:58you know,
19:59Mitt Romney got in trouble
20:00for strapping the dog
20:00to the roof
20:01for a family vacation
20:02and I thought
20:03that was crazy
20:03and it contributed
20:05to his defeat.
20:06She killed her dog
20:06and wrote about it.
20:07Yeah.
20:08And when I saw
20:08Tom Tillis,
20:09a Republican,
20:11take her down
20:12over her treatment
20:12of the dog,
20:13I thought,
20:13oh, we're done.
20:14We're done.
20:14Cricket got the last word.
20:15Yeah, Cricket,
20:16the big week
20:18for the ghost of Cricket.
20:19I will say,
20:20you know,
20:21obviously,
20:22you know,
20:22I got a certain audience
20:23here.
20:23On the day I announced,
20:25you know,
20:25we had a joke
20:26about her getting relieved
20:27of her duty
20:27and, you know,
20:28some people
20:29in the audience applauded,
20:30but of course,
20:30they're not going
20:30to replace her
20:32with somebody like,
20:33like, you know,
20:34I joked,
20:34it's not going to be
20:35like Oprah
20:35and now we know
20:36who it is.
20:37It's Mark Wayne.
20:38Because it had to be
20:39someone that hadn't
20:40written a book
20:40about killing their dog.
20:42Trump gave me a list
20:44and they gave him a list
20:44and he goes,
20:45who hasn't written
20:45about killing a dog
20:46and they're like,
20:46we'll give you a new list.
20:47But this guy...
20:49Unfortunately,
20:50a lot of these people
20:51thought that was
20:51a cool thing to do
20:52and wrote about it.
20:53This guy is...
20:54Like, how they pick
20:55this guy is crazy.
20:56Yeah, well,
20:57I mean, are there not...
20:57Are there many people left
20:59that they haven't picked
21:00for stuff?
21:01I mean,
21:01there's a lot of people
21:02left that, I mean,
21:04he's going to be interesting.
21:06He was, you know,
21:08he's also,
21:08he seemed like for a while,
21:10like, he was certainly
21:11framed himself
21:12as an outsider.
21:13You know,
21:14he was very against
21:15Matt Gaetz
21:17becoming the attorney general.
21:19Because he'd seen
21:20the videos
21:20of his sexcapades.
21:21And he had this quote.
21:23I remember I had to see
21:24if I had permission
21:24to air it
21:26because it had just
21:26never happened before.
21:27And he said,
21:28this is a video
21:29of Matt Gaetz
21:30taking ED drugs
21:32and going all night.
21:34And I didn't show the video,
21:36but I was like,
21:36do we say that on TV?
21:38You know, like,
21:38I didn't pick Matt Gaetz,
21:40and I don't know
21:41who this guy is
21:42telling me what he saw.
21:43By the way,
21:44what a crazy world
21:45we live in
21:45where you've got to be like,
21:46am I allowed to say on TV
21:47a thing that happened
21:48in, like, Washington, D.C.?
21:50Yeah.
21:51That a senator said about...
21:52And at the time,
21:52Matt Gaetz was his pick
21:53to be attorney general.
21:54Yeah.
21:55So it was before
21:55he pulled Matt Gaetz out.
21:57Yes.
21:58Mark Wayne Mullen
21:58is his name.
21:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:59He's got two first names.
22:01Yeah, Mark, yeah.
22:02And you wonder
22:02why he needs two.
22:04Yeah.
22:05I feel like Trump
22:05probably likes,
22:06because since Trump's
22:07so duplicitous,
22:08he likes people
22:08that have multiple names.
22:09That have two.
22:10He probably wishes
22:11he has two names.
22:12Trump would be like,
22:13that wasn't Donald Trump,
22:14that was Tom Trump.
22:14calling him Wayne.
22:15Oh, yeah.
22:16Oh, yeah.
22:16Oh, he's not going
22:17to get it right
22:18twice in a row, ever.
22:19Ever, ever.
22:20He's going to do
22:20that thing where he says
22:21who's here,
22:22and he's going to
22:22think it's two people.
22:23He's like,
22:23Mark's here,
22:24Wayne's here.
22:27Have you noticed
22:28how he gets to that
22:29point in the teleprompter
22:30sometimes,
22:30and it's like between it.
22:31So, if Mark Wayne Mullen
22:33ever ends up
22:33going around a line,
22:35he'll be like,
22:35and we had Mark,
22:36and then Wayne Mullen.
22:37Yeah, yeah.
22:38It'll sound like
22:39a new subject.
22:39No, he's done it very,
22:40you're right.
22:40It is.
22:41I haven't realized.
22:41It's the way it's structured.
22:43Yeah, like, even,
22:44by the way,
22:44with cue card Wally,
22:45I'm always like,
22:45put the name
22:46all in one line.
22:49Thank you for making
22:49time for us today.
22:50Thank you so much.
22:50I appreciate it.
22:51It's always fun to see you.
22:52You guys,
22:52the Cold War's deadline.
22:54White House airs weekdays
22:56at 4 p.m. on Heaven's Sound.
22:57We'll be right back
22:58with Rebecca Braddock.
23:12Welcome back, everybody.
23:13Our next guest
23:14is an awe-inspiring actress
23:15you know from the series
23:16Silo,
23:17as well as the Mission
23:18Impossible and Dune
23:19film franchises.
23:20She stars in Peaky Blinders,
23:22The Immortal Man,
23:23which is in select theaters now
23:25and premieres March 20th
23:26on Netflix.
23:27Let's take a look.
23:28Your son is in trouble.
23:31He's working with evil men.
23:33Men who would destroy
23:34our people.
23:35Gypsy people.
23:36I do not engage
23:37in that kind of work anymore.
23:38If you agree to go back
23:40and save your son,
23:42my sister and I
23:43will help you
23:44find peace.
23:46Please welcome back
23:47to the show
23:48our friend Rebecca Ferguson,
23:49everybody!
23:50The Immortal Man
24:04No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
24:06No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
24:07Hello, friend.
24:08How are you?
24:09I'm feeling a bit nervous today.
24:11Why? It always goes so well when you're here.
24:14It was a little hyper last time.
24:16People commented in the...
24:17Did you see that? I did, yeah.
24:18I got screenshots before going, is she on Coke?
24:21Yeah.
24:22And I was like, well, you don't kiss and tell.
24:29I want to be very clear. I'm a very sober person.
24:32I was four Red Bulls down and 400 interviews later.
24:35Okay, gotcha. Oh, so you were...
24:37All right, so I was wondering why you had to have four Red Bulls.
24:39You were in a full press junket,
24:40which they are exhausting. They start very early.
24:43They start very early. They end very late.
24:45Yeah, congratulations on being in the Peaky Blindersville.
24:47This is a wonderful show. Six seasons.
24:49Mmm. You a big fan?
24:52I am a big fan. And I've seen interviews.
24:54I feel like you've given different answers
24:56as to how much of the show you've seen.
24:59Because it makes it more fun.
25:00Yeah, so how much of the show have you seen?
25:02Well, it depends on the interview.
25:03Okay.
25:04So let me try. Without the preamble I just gave,
25:08were you a fan of the show, Rebecca?
25:09So I love Cillian Murphy.
25:13Okay, that's very non-committal.
25:14You haven't... Don't...
25:16You're not... Don't, please...
25:18We do not let Rebecca start applause here.
25:21This is to distract.
25:24Whoo! Next question.
25:25Now, okay, so I did watch one and a half seasons.
25:29It's a big dedication. I've been very busy.
25:31And then I got a phone call, because we have the same agent.
25:34He said Cillian would like you to do the film.
25:36That's very nice to be asked by one of the stars of the show.
25:39Beyond nice.
25:41I got nervous and excited, and I said yes before reading it.
25:44Okay.
25:44And here we are.
25:45There you go.
25:46And I'm going to go back and watch it.
25:48You're going to go back now and watch the show...
25:51Yeah.
25:51...after you did the movie that takes place at the end of it.
25:52And then change my mind of the acting I chose to do.
25:55Now, wait.
25:56Now, this show takes place in Birmingham.
25:58Yeah.
25:58This is a very hard accent.
26:00Yes.
26:00Is it called the Brummie accent?
26:01It is, and you're not going to get me to do it.
26:03Would you like to try?
26:04Um...
26:05Well, I don't know if I have any...
26:07But, I mean, like, Tommy Shelby.
26:09Wow.
26:11Um...
26:12I feel like everybody in the show is always saying, like,
26:14that's Tommy Shelby.
26:15Yeah, or the Peaky Blinders.
26:17Yeah.
26:18the Peaky Blinders.
26:20Yeah.
26:20Yeah.
26:21I know it's late, because they've already filmed it,
26:23and it's out, but do you think you can give me a part in it?
26:25I think you're...
26:26I think you're doing a great job here.
26:28You, but you didn't do it.
26:30I noticed in the film you're not doing a Brummie accent.
26:32No, and there's a good reason to that,
26:34because I'm not great at accents.
26:35Okay.
26:36I work hard, and I usually sound Welsh,
26:39which is a criticism for the Welsh people,
26:41because it doesn't sound Welsh either.
26:43I see.
26:44So good, right?
26:45Welsh is such a weird accent.
26:46Even Welsh people don't sound Welsh.
26:48Even Welsh people don't sound Welsh.
26:50And in Silo, I try and do an American,
26:53but we get away with the fact that we're underground
26:54for 250 years.
26:56Yeah.
26:56So it just sounds a bit Scandi.
26:58Right.
26:59It's like, it turns out, if you put an American underground
27:02for 250 years, it sounds a little off.
27:04A little off.
27:07I didn't realize you're bad at accents,
27:08because I feel like I've seen you do accents.
27:10I'm good at table tennis.
27:13Has that been helpful in show business?
27:15Just make sure.
27:16And here we have a table.
27:20Yeah, there was.
27:21I'm trying to think if there was any ping-pong
27:23in Peaky Blinders.
27:25And I feel like they cut that scene, maybe.
27:26Timothy and I were going to do a movie.
27:29But Timmy got the role instead.
27:30You're a...
27:32Oh, it was an either-or.
27:33Yeah.
27:33You're very tattooed in this film.
27:35I am.
27:35Fake tattoos, obviously.
27:37I am.
27:37You've been fake tattooed before.
27:39I have, yes.
27:40It's in my contract.
27:41Dune.
27:41I mean, I had a lot of empathy for you.
27:45Yes.
27:47This felt, I mean, you know, again,
27:49an incredible film and obviously worth the time.
27:51This felt like it must have been so time-consuming.
27:53Not for you, but, I mean, you had to spend a lot of time,
27:56and then other people were putting them on.
27:57And the tattoos took a long, long, long, long time.
27:59But also, I love it.
28:01Yeah, it's really good.
28:02But, I mean, we should tattoo our faces a bit more, I think.
28:05Yeah.
28:05But we also did, like, contouring tattoos.
28:07You'll see that it was perfectly on the cheek line
28:10and sort of highlights.
28:11Oh, interesting.
28:12So, like, use a tattoo as, like, a sort of, like,
28:15cheaper plastic surgery.
28:16Heroin tattoo sheet.
28:17Oh, very helpful.
28:19But we did on Peaky.
28:21We're moving so quickly.
28:22Yeah.
28:23Whew, the Red Bull.
28:24Here we go.
28:24We have another one.
28:25It's coming out.
28:25It's coming.
28:26Yeah.
28:26We did something called the Orgram Alphabet,
28:28which is the Celtic tree alphabet in Ireland.
28:31And we tattooed my whole body with secret symbols,
28:34which no one saw.
28:35We had a sex scene.
28:36And I tried to show my body all the time
28:38to try and get the tattoos on.
28:40Yeah, of course.
28:40Well, you would go through all that work.
28:41It just stayed here.
28:42Oh, no.
28:44That's what you should have.
28:45Three hours for nothing.
28:45You're like, that was for this movie.
28:48Not for that one.
28:49Well, we'll see you in June 3.
28:51Oh, well, here we go.
28:52June 3, sex scene.
28:53You heard it here first.
28:55You play a psychic in this film.
28:57Or you have psychic abilities.
28:58I do.
28:59Have you ever sat with someone who claims
29:02to have psychic abilities?
29:05I haven't.
29:06And I'm not dismissing any idea of psychic talent.
29:11Right.
29:12I think the only experience I had was walking down the street
29:15in the French quarters with my husband's father,
29:19who was two strokes down in a wheelchair.
29:22And this woman on the street...
29:25That's a...
29:26Two strokes down is a medical...
29:29Yeah.
29:30Yeah, he is.
29:32He was good.
29:34But anyway, two strokes down.
29:35Yeah.
29:36And this woman sort of took him in the hand and said,
29:38Can I read your palm?
29:39Oh, so sort of like sort of a street psychic.
29:42On the street in New Orleans, in New Orleans.
29:44Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:45And then she looked at his palm and she went,
29:48So, I can see you're going to have a really long, healthy life.
29:52And he went, I doubt it.
29:53Right.
29:53Number one.
29:55That's such a big swing for a psychic.
29:57Yeah.
29:58Also, he's in a wheelchair.
29:59Yeah.
29:59Semi-stroke.
30:00Yeah.
30:01Then she goes, So, how many children do you have?
30:03No, he said...
30:04She said, You have two children.
30:05He went, No, I've got three.
30:06She went, You've got three children.
30:07But, yeah, I just told you that.
30:08Yeah.
30:09And then she ended up saying,
30:11You changed your career halfway through your life.
30:12And I went, No, mate, I've embarrassed all my life.
30:14And then she goes, You can pay whatever you want,
30:18but it's usually $90.
30:21So, she was, maybe that was her first day.
30:23It's pretty exciting.
30:24I'm thinking, if we don't do this, we have a job.
30:28Do you have, you read a poem in the film.
30:31Do you, did you do a lot of studying,
30:32other than your work with this, or your interaction with this?
30:35You did a lot of research.
30:36Yeah, a lot of research.
30:38I could probably read your poem.
30:40But this is based on no training.
30:41No training.
30:43It's all yours.
30:44Shh.
30:46Now, I will tell you, they teach you,
30:48the first thing they teach you,
30:49the first thing they teach you in psychic school
30:52is not to recoil.
30:53Okay, look.
30:54When you see the poem.
30:55They're like, Whatever you see, don't recoil.
30:57Okay, go.
30:58Okay, go.
30:59Okay.
31:00So, I can say, did you wear a blue sweatshirt today?
31:05Yeah.
31:06You did?
31:06Yeah.
31:06Okay.
31:07Okay.
31:08Now, you like eating chicken pita.
31:11Yeah, but this is all stuff you could find out.
31:14Could I?
31:14Yeah, all right, keep going.
31:15But this isn't, by the way, you're not fortune-telling.
31:17How about a spoon in the drawer?
31:19You're past-telling.
31:19How about a spoon in the drawer?
31:20How about a spoon in the drawer?
31:23All right, you put the spoon in the drawer.
31:26All right, you put the spoon in the drawer.
31:26You know what, I'm not gonna...
31:29I don't care for this.
31:31You're not allowed.
31:31She's not allowed to start clapping.
31:33She's not allowed to start bowing.
31:34But I'm very impressed.
31:36It is always so great to see you.
31:38Please come back soon.
31:39I will. I will be great.
31:39Thank you so much.
31:40This is our friend.
31:41I'm Rebecca Ferguson, everybody.
31:41Keep the blinded with the immortal man,
31:43like he does now from the ears.
31:44March 20th on Netflix.
31:46We'll be right back with Joe Santagato and Frank Elmer.
32:01Our next guest hosts the hit podcast, The Basement Yard,
32:05which releases new episodes every Monday.
32:07Please welcome to the show Joe Santagato
32:09and Frank Alvarez, everybody!
32:25Welcome to the show Joe Santagato and Frank Elmer.
32:26Wow.
32:28Gentlemen, there you go. Enjoy yourself.
32:30Enjoy yourself. We got your rider.
32:32We knew you wanted a stretch-out couch.
32:34Thanks so much for being here.
32:35Yeah, dude, we are honored to be here.
32:37I want to talk about your fantastic podcast,
32:39but I first want to address the elephant in the room.
32:42People Magazine had a fan vote for the sexiest podcasters.
32:46Yeah, they did.
32:47The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast was up there.
32:51And then you guys were down here.
32:53Yeah.
32:54Let me just say congratulations on your victory.
32:57Bravo!
33:00To the base mignons.
33:01You know, heavy is the head that wears the crown, you know?
33:05They did choose a horrible picture.
33:08Well, maybe podcasters just don't have great pictures.
33:10I don't know.
33:11Did you guys, how did your family react to the news
33:14that you were people's sexiest podcasters?
33:15It was interesting.
33:16Our fathers were the most, like, invested in it.
33:20Yeah.
33:20Which is, you know, such, it was very confusing.
33:23And my father's like an old Colombian man, and he called me.
33:26He's like, so you're sexy now.
33:28I was like, huh? I don't know. I don't think so.
33:31It was very weird.
33:32My dad thought this was the biggest deal in the world.
33:34He called me, and he was like, dude, you beat everybody.
33:37And I was like...
33:38Like, he's like, Brad Pitt? You beat the Kelsey brothers?
33:41I was like, this is not what's happening, Dad.
33:44Like, I'm like, it's great. It's fun.
33:45But this is not like...
33:47Yeah.
33:47You beat Brad Pitt. Your dad was proud of you.
33:50Dude, this is a big deal, no?
33:52Like, we're on the cover of Men's Health or something.
33:54I don't think...
33:54It's because no one has called our fathers sexy
33:56in, like, 45 years now.
33:58So they're, like, owning this.
33:59They're taking this. They won.
34:01All right, so you guys have been friends forever.
34:04At what age did you guys first meet?
34:06Pre-K?
34:07Oh, my God. Four years old, yeah.
34:08And friends consistently all through life?
34:11Like, yeah.
34:13You get it.
34:14No, we were friends, for sure.
34:16I mean, we definitely got into some disagreements
34:17over the years, so that...
34:20He likes to put me in time-out sometimes.
34:21Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
34:22So that's kind of what happened.
34:23I was jealous of, like, in, like, second-grade,
34:26girls would be like, oh, my God, you're my best friend.
34:28And I'd be like, what the hell is this?
34:31What's this right here?
34:32It's like, I'm your best friend.
34:33Yeah.
34:34How do you turn a friendship
34:35into this successful of a podcast?
34:37Like, when did that transition take place?
34:39I mean, I started the podcast in 2015,
34:43and I was doing it with, like, a couple of my friends and stuff.
34:45And then in 2020, we started doing it together.
34:49And, yeah, I mean, it just works because, like I said,
34:52we just argue the entire thing.
34:54A lot of people say it reminds them of their relationship
34:57with their best friend.
34:57Yeah. So it kind of works out in that way.
35:00Heartbreaking for all the people you tried
35:01before you made the...
35:03Yeah, yeah, I know.
35:06It's a tough one, for sure.
35:07A pair. Yeah.
35:08How often do you bring up that it was five years
35:10before you joined and the podcast took off?
35:12Uh, I bring it up a lot when I'm at home.
35:15I'm upset you brought that up.
35:16I'm sorry.
35:17You shouldn't have done that.
35:17I bring it up a lot at home when I'm in the bath
35:19and I'm pumping myself up.
35:20And I'm like, way to go, dude.
35:22Pumping yourself up in the bath.
35:23Pumping yourself up in the bath, yeah.
35:25TV, for God's sake.
35:26TV, come on, man. Kids are watching.
35:28Jesus.
35:29It's a great...
35:30The Basement Yard is a great title.
35:31What is the origin of The Basement Yard?
35:33I wish I could take credit for it,
35:34but my mom actually came up with the title.
35:36So I was living at home when I started the podcast
35:39and my room was in the basement.
35:40And when we were younger, my mom, when we wanted to go outside,
35:44because we had a little front yard,
35:46and when she was like, I don't want to watch them,
35:48so she was like, no, go play in the basement yard.
35:50Or we would ask her, can we go play in the basement yard?
35:53So then she was like, you should call it The Basement Yard,
35:55because that's where you're doing it.
35:55And I was like, that's a great name.
35:57Isn't it? I will say, like, every now and then,
35:59my parents will have a great idea,
36:01and it is that it's such a devil's bargain,
36:04because they never let you forget.
36:05Oh, never.
36:06Not only that, but, like, my dad will take credit
36:08for stuff that he doesn't do.
36:11Yeah.
36:12Like, it's just that, oh, you guys are funny.
36:14He'll take credit for him.
36:15He's like, he was in my house, he knows I'm funny,
36:17and now you guys are like, congrats.
36:19I did that.
36:20I'm like, it makes no sense.
36:21When did you fully appreciate how the podcast
36:25had sort of caught on?
36:26I think we really saw a big, you know,
36:29kind of swing in popularity once TikTok
36:32started becoming more and more used.
36:34And there were two clips in particular where,
36:36one, we were arguing about how to properly open a banana.
36:40Yeah.
36:40And we also argued about our favorite Pop-Tart flavor.
36:44Gotcha.
36:44Riveting stuff.
36:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:46I mean, groundbreaking.
36:48Nicole Wallace should have been.
36:48Now, real quick, though, for anybody who missed it,
36:51can you just go through the argument
36:53over the best way to open a banana?
36:56Can I just say?
36:57No, no, because I know what he's going to do.
36:59He's going to, you're going to, prepare yourself.
37:03I think the most efficient way, I have kids,
37:05and you know, you don't want to give a whole banana
37:07to a kid sometimes because they won't eat it.
37:09So, boom, you rip it in half.
37:10Just like this.
37:12Just like this.
37:13And it comes apart perfectly every single time.
37:15Gotcha.
37:15And you think that's what a monster does.
37:17Well, I will say I did think that.
37:20And then, when he did it in front of me,
37:22I was like, oh, my God.
37:24Because he just did it on the show.
37:25He's like, just like this, and he ripped it.
37:27And it was, like, perfectly lined up.
37:28And I was like, I've been wronged.
37:31Yeah.
37:32Someone lied to me.
37:33It is so funny when you're like,
37:35how do you make a podcast a hit podcast?
37:37It's like you rip a banana in half.
37:39It makes no sense.
37:40After that, you just start cashing the checks.
37:42Yeah.
37:43Like, we're on late night now, so people are going to be like,
37:45oh, my God, you guys are so successful.
37:46What's the secret?
37:47And I'm like, dude, I...
37:48We ripped bananas and talked about Pop-Tarts.
37:50I don't know how this happened.
37:51Best favorite flavor, real quick?
37:53I mean, I don't want to start...
37:54The cinnamon one.
37:56Yeah, that's the answer.
37:57I would go, there was an old tie-in one for a movie
38:00they did in the early 2000s.
38:01The Wild Berry was...
38:02Okay, gotcha.
38:03I don't want to start dropping, you know, IP on here,
38:06you know?
38:07Oh, that's great, yeah.
38:08If people want you to drop the IP, they got to pay for it.
38:10Yeah, that's right, yeah.
38:11Now, just to speak to the success of the podcast,
38:14we were talking backstage, because I'm just so...
38:17I'm so impressed.
38:18You guys, last year, or I guess two years ago,
38:21sold out Radio City.
38:22Yes.
38:23I can imagine.
38:24Too much, yeah.
38:25To go from the basement yard to Radio City
38:28is quite an accomplishment.
38:29And then the very next year, last November,
38:32you guys played in Madison Square Garden.
38:34Yeah.
38:34And it just is such a special experience, you know?
38:38I think anybody who has a special podcast, right,
38:40you build this relationship with your fans,
38:42to see them, actually, in person,
38:44it must be such a cool moment.
38:46It was unbelievable.
38:48I mean, it was insane to do Madison Square Garden.
38:50I mean, to Radio City, we were both very okay with that.
38:53Yeah.
38:53To get there.
38:54That picture is also going to make me throw up
38:56if I look at it, because the amount of people there
38:58is terrifying, but MSG was just so surreal.
39:01I mean, we were kind of, like, just walking around,
39:04looking at each other, like, what do we do?
39:05Like, this is insane. How has this happened?
39:07Thinking back on the Pop-Tarts, you know?
39:09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:09You're like, thanks for getting us here.
39:11Once you visualize seeing the people in the seats,
39:13like, it kind of, like, hits you, like, oh, my...
39:16Like, these are real people spending their hard-earned money
39:19to come see us, and, like, there's a responsibility,
39:21and it's honestly, like, emotional.
39:23Like, we both talked about it a lot, and it's...
39:25We never take it for granted.
39:26It's very cool.
39:27And is it true that you guys are going to get
39:29some more live dates on the books?
39:32Yes.
39:32Yeah.
39:34We...
39:35So we were planning on taking some time off,
39:37but we decided that we are going to get back out there
39:41after the summer.
39:42That's great.
39:43That's very exciting for everyone involved.
39:45Gentlemen, congrats on all your success.
39:47Thank you so much for being here.
39:49So lovely to talk to you both.
39:51Jose Degano, Frank Alvarez, everybody.
39:53The Basement Yard releases new episodes every Monday.
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40:37I want to thank my guests, Nicole Wallace,
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40:42Thanks a lot, everybody.
40:43We love you.
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