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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 07: Mailman Murder

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00:09¿Quién es el 9-1-1? ¿Qué es la emergencia?
00:12Sí, hola. Estoy en Cicely Circle.
00:14Necesito un ambulante.
00:16Nuestro hombre de posto fue justa.
00:24¿Quién me contó donde fue justa?
00:26No sé qué decirte.
00:27¿Quién me detuvo?
00:29Se está sudando de boca.
00:37¿Quién está consciente? ¿que está respirando?
00:40Sí, sí.
00:41¿Está respirando?
00:51Por favor, envidie un avión.
00:53¿Quién me está enviando?
01:04¡Gracias!
01:31721-19, we at the corner of Heather Hill and Renaissance and I'm out with Wheely.
01:36Copy Heather Hill and a red.
01:37Go.
01:39Here.
01:47I need you to go that way.
01:49¿Qué?
01:49¿Qué?
01:51¿Qué?
01:52¿About 5 o 10 minutos hace,
01:54yo escuché un
01:56y luego veo un hombre con un
02:00un hombre con un jacquete
02:03y le ha ido en ese camino.
02:05¡Vamos a trabajar hacia el perimetero
02:07hacia el perimetero hacia el perimetero
02:08y luego nos vamos a llevar a la izquierda.
02:11¡Hang tight por un segundo!
02:13¡Suscríbete hacia el perimetero!
02:15¡Suscríbete al perimetero!
02:16¿Está bien?
02:17¿Está bien?
02:18¿Está bien?
02:18¿Está bien?
02:19¿Está bien?
02:20¿Está bien?
02:22¡Suscríbete al perimetera al perimetero!
02:25¡Está bien!
02:26¿Y dónde estáis viendo él esta?
02:28¿Qué camionasteis veste?
02:29¿Has visto él?
02:31¿Ay, a la calle?
02:32¿Está bien, a la calle?
02:34¡Ey, a la calle!
02:35¡Ahora!
02:35¡Para!
02:36¿Para eso iría hacia el perimetero?
02:38¿Para que empecé a hacer una administraciónota?
02:40¿Para bueno, ahora?
02:41¡No.
02:43¡No, de la calle!
02:44A ver que no hay que hacerle un cambio en otro lado,
02:49que no hay un cambio en otro lado.
02:51¡Pierce!
02:52Lazo de información,
02:53fue running hacia el norte y hacia hacia el centro,
02:56hacia el cielo.
02:59¡Gracias!
03:16You guys here?
03:19I'm not close yet. I'll get a sheriff, Stephanie.
03:21Can you give me a favor and go sit at Heather Hill Circle in Renaissance right there?
03:24Just hold for right now.
03:28South to work on a perimeter.
03:30Southeast.
03:32Last scene, Heather Hill Circle running diagonally southeast.
03:37Suction is necessary.
03:38I feel like in any area.
03:40I mean, suction ASAP.
03:42Pick him up. Pick him up.
03:43I'm not close yet.
03:45I'm not close yet.
03:47Pick him up.
03:49Where else?
03:50He's had no air.
03:51No air.
03:52Stand by.
03:53Just throw him on the bed.
03:54One, two, three.
03:56We were in the description of the animal.
03:58First, putting possibly blue in a blue bag.
04:01All right, I'm going to get tape and start...
04:07I'm going to get tape and start taping it up.
04:12So, did you see the person?
04:13Did you see him?
04:15Yeah.
04:15Could you tell, was he white, black, Hispanic?
04:19Looks like, I'm sorry, white.
04:22White?
04:23Okay.
04:24And a guy, how tall do you think he was?
04:27Could you tell?
04:28Similar to yours.
04:29Okay.
04:29Like a mile, you are at least kind of a height.
04:39I think from a witness, it was that kind of pants, not margins.
04:44Dark grayish jacket.
04:45Did not have a hat or a hoodie on.
04:48And believes it's a white male around 5'11".
04:50I've seen southeastbound on Heather Hill running through the house.
04:55Christy, Christy, Christy!
04:58Span it out to here.
05:00Bring that to this box, and then when they're out, we'll go across.
05:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:04So, I'm just trying to...
05:05Yeah, just bring it to this here.
05:07Okay, hold it?
05:07Okay.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Hey.
05:09Which way are you guys going?
05:10We're calling him, and we've got to get everybody out of here.
05:13So, for our safety, the police officers are going to go behind us.
05:17We're not getting shot and killed.
05:19So, yeah, so we've got the...
05:20So, what we'll do, we can't have you go, but so far, we're good in this area, because we're
05:26going to have, like, 20 cops here.
05:27Is it a handgun or a rifle?
05:29Yeah, yeah.
05:29So, just hang tight one second.
05:31Hang tight!
05:31Yeah.
05:47All right.
05:52We've got a crime scene over here.
05:55Okay.
05:55So, this is a little bit...
05:57It's in Sicily Drive, so we thought on Sicily Circle it wasn't a problem.
06:02Yeah, no, it was actually right here, right over here.
06:04Should we stay at the house, or...
06:06I don't know if you've got the reverse 911 call, but there is still a suspect at large
06:10in the neighborhood, so just be aware of that.
06:14I would advise that.
06:16Do you guys have cameras right across?
06:20Can you look at your cameras for me?
06:22I can't.
06:23I can't see anything.
06:24I was trying to see.
06:26It's not a very good thing.
06:27I love your house.
06:29If you can see within the last maybe 20 minutes anybody that matches the description of the
06:35suspect walking by, can you do that?
06:41Yeah, but if he walked by prior to the incident.
06:44Does that make sense?
06:46Yeah, and if you can get...
06:48If you know any of your neighbors that have cameras to do the same thing, check like even
06:52an hour, see if he's casing, you know, up and down the...
06:56See, it happened at 12.31.
06:59I was in my garage cleaning out.
07:00You heard it?
07:01I heard five shots.
07:02Okay.
07:03That's gunshots.
07:04All right.
07:04I should remember that.
07:05You said 12.31?
07:0712.31.
07:07I looked at my wife and I just pulled in five minutes earlier.
07:11Was he here?
07:12He was here.
07:13He was here.
07:13He was here.
07:15And I heard the shot.
07:17It was a big gun.
07:18Okay.
07:19Big gun?
07:20Yeah.
07:20I think it was so surprising.
07:22It wasn't a small gun at all.
07:23Okay.
07:24I'm just going to walk over here and see if I can't find...
07:39All right.
07:42I got...
07:43This guy heard five shots, so I've got a shell with casing right here.
07:51I have...
07:52Looks like it was possibly coming from this direction because I have something hitting the sidewalk here.
08:01Here's his shell casing here, shell casing here, shell casing here.
08:04Who after you got here?
08:06Uh, huh?
08:07Who after you got here?
08:08Uh, Douglas got here.
08:09And I forgot to hit my...
08:11Okay.
08:11...recorder.
08:12I hit it.
08:13Later.
08:14Wait.
08:14I apologize.
08:15Let's have you step out of there.
08:17I didn't go for it.
08:21Officer.
08:22Yeah.
08:23We saw the event part of it, so I'm sorry.
08:30Absolutely.
08:31Yes, sir.
08:35I don't think it's good.
08:36You'll have to...
08:37Hello.
08:38How you doing, sir?
08:40I was on Pike, and it becomes renaissance from your Maxwell or...
08:44Oh.
08:46Yeah, it's from all Mr. Ryan.
08:47Yeah.
08:48Is it okay if we go in the house?
08:49My back is bad.
08:50I can't stand for very long.
08:51Let's go in the house.
08:52Don't give you the intro, John.
08:54We were in the house.
08:55We heard boom, boom, boom, boom.
09:00Annette came out of her office.
09:01She said, I think something just happened to our mailman.
09:03And, uh...
09:09Take him up to your office and show him the note he looked out of.
09:14Sitting at my desk.
09:15I know the mailman comes noonish, so I had seen the truck out there.
09:19I saw a man in a hoodie jogging on that path.
09:27So I saw him jog on that path, and then I saw him cut over to the road, and I
09:31didn't follow where he went from there.
09:33But I didn't see a gun.
09:36I didn't see anything in his hands or anything like that.
09:39Just a jogging pace.
09:42The postman was taking a breath or two.
09:47But I think those were his last breaths.
09:50And, uh, when did you call 911?
09:54It was down the street.
09:56It was at 1233.
09:59Hello, sir.
10:00Hey, question for you.
10:02Do you have any, like, ring doorbell cameras, uh, exterior cameras?
10:06Yes, I actually do.
10:09Okay.
10:10Do you mind if we take a look?
10:11We just want to kind of look and see what was down there.
10:16Yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately there is, but...
10:19Somebody you're looking for.
10:20Um, yeah, we're looking to see what we can find on camera in the neighborhood.
10:23Okay.
10:23All right, we've been doing it coming out the front door.
10:25We're looking for around noonish to 1230.
10:28Did you hear or see anything suspicious around this area?
10:31I see that you have cameras.
10:33I just looked at all, nothing.
10:34Have you heard anything in the last hour and a half or so?
10:38We did not hear anything.
10:39I know you heard a bunch of sirens.
10:40Well, I walked, I mean, frankly, my neighbor and I walked over and we saw it.
10:43Okay.
10:44What happened, so, um, we talked to the neighbor there.
10:46I'm the president of the HOA.
10:47Okay.
10:47So, are you able to communicate with your HOA, everybody?
10:51And send out an email.
10:52Yeah.
10:52Ask them to check there, if anybody has doorbells, cameras, stuff like that.
10:56For any suspicious activity between 1145 and 1245.
11:03Okay.
11:10So, here's kind of where, here he is walking up.
11:13Oh, he walked around, but he walked behind those houses.
11:16And you'll hear the gunshots, actually.
11:42And you'll hear the gunshots.
11:45So, got a job for that feeling.
12:12No, no, no.
12:31We learned the name of the postal carrier targeted in a deadly shooting in Longmont.
12:36Jason Schaefer was killed just doing his job right here delivering mail to a quiet neighborhood.
13:09I have a resident that has an older detached garage and she's concerned that this thing might be in her
13:16garage.
13:17And Frankie, get another unit over here.
13:21Copy, take.
13:27121.
13:29A little bit seriously in the garage.
13:34I'll pop it.
13:35Yeah, go ahead and pop it.
13:44Longmont Police Department.
13:47Anybody inside, make yourself known now.
13:58Okay.
14:04Make sure you check up high.
14:13Drywall ceiling.
14:16What's in?
14:18High corner, here's clear.
14:27Can I get these back up if you pull them?
14:29There you go.
14:38There you go.
14:38There you go.
14:38There you go.
14:55Police Department, you're in the attic.
14:56Come down now.
14:58You need to show me your hands.
15:14I know you're up there.
15:16Come down now.
15:17Come on.
15:33Clear.
15:34I'm up here.
15:35Yep.
15:36Yep, I'm good.
15:43Clear.
15:45Clear.
16:11I've got a citizen report.
16:12He saw a dark-colored Nissan SUV
16:15at the far south dead end of Redathon Drive
16:19on an hour ago.
16:20We've got these suspect vehicles
16:21of a 2017 black Nissan Rogue.
16:24Per a witness,
16:25the male suspect was seen in that vehicle.
16:29CBS 4's Alan Junaid live with an update.
16:32Alan, still no sign of the shooter.
16:34No, Jim.
16:35And police have now cleared the scene
16:36behind the other mailboxes
16:37where this postal worker was
16:39when he was shot this afternoon.
16:41As to motive, there is nothing yet.
16:46He shot him.
16:47He shot him.
16:49He shot him.
16:51He shot him.
16:52He shot him.
16:54He shot him.
16:54The person in the civil economy
16:56may have a good idea
16:57who could be a possible male suspect.
17:05Hi.
17:07Hi.
17:08You can stay seated
17:10or whatever you like to do.
17:11So my name is John.
17:13I'm a detective with Longman PD.
17:15What's your involvement?
17:16Um, I'm the supervisor
17:17but he's also a really good friend.
17:19Okay.
17:21Um, he's been like telling me
17:22what's going on with his situation.
17:24I mean, right now,
17:25this is what worries me.
17:27On Friday,
17:28his lawyer just filed papers for,
17:31they've been going through
17:32a big custody battle
17:33but she hasn't been speaking
17:35to him at all
17:35so he filed some more papers
17:37so that he could get more time
17:39and I know she probably
17:40would have been served today,
17:41guest here today.
17:42So this is?
17:43That's the baby.
17:45This is Jay's family?
17:45Yes, this is a six-year-old.
17:47Like the mother of the six-year-old?
17:50Okay.
17:51What is her name?
17:52Her name is Devin.
17:54Devin.
17:55D-E-V-A-N
17:56and then it's Shriner
17:57is her last name.
17:58So there's some kind
17:59of child custody paperwork
18:00that you could probably
18:01have been served today?
18:02So they have
18:03kind of joint custody
18:04but I think she's stopped
18:08responding to any
18:09of his messages.
18:10She won't respond to his lawyer.
18:11Just like,
18:13like really mean messages.
18:15I mean, she's like,
18:16she's crazy.
18:17From what I know of her,
18:18she's crazy.
18:20But I don't know
18:20if she's just crazy.
18:34Your name is Vicki, correct?
18:35Yes.
18:36How can I help you?
18:39I know some of her
18:40carriers and some of her
18:41people who care.
18:41I should have a little bit of faith.
18:43But we try to stay
18:46just because the most
18:47closer to them than I do.
18:49Because when it comes
18:50to discipline, it's me.
18:53All I know,
18:54all I can tell you is
18:55that he was having
18:55a problem with his baby
18:56in a moment.
18:57She did work for us
18:58for a brief moment.
19:00I thought she was
19:01a little bit strange
19:02and all, so the job
19:05wasn't right for her.
19:06Her, that, and the fact
19:07that she was constantly
19:08serious.
19:09Do you know anything
19:10about anyone else
19:11that she would have
19:11been dating, possibly?
19:13She got a boyfriend
19:14that threatened him.
19:16How long ago was that
19:17that you heard that?
19:20This had to have been
19:22in August.
19:24August, you heard that?
19:25And I want to say
19:25it was around August
19:27because when I asked
19:28something, I said,
19:29is it something that
19:29we need to be aware of?
19:31Do I need to change
19:32your route?
19:32Do I need to change
19:33the setup?
19:34Do she know your route?
19:35What do you want me to do?
19:36And you said,
19:36you'll take care of it.
19:37But for safety reasons,
19:39we tried to avoid
19:40as much as this is possible.
19:42Yeah.
19:42And unfortunately,
19:43no one can predict it.
19:44I know that.
19:46But I got to explain
19:47these to 100 and 7 people.
19:50Yeah.
19:51Yeah.
19:52Yeah.
19:53Yeah.
19:54Yeah.
19:54Yeah.
19:58Yeah.
20:00Yeah.
20:00Yeah.
20:00Yeah.
20:08Hi, Rosa.
20:10Do you have a water
20:11and everything?
20:12Yeah.
20:12Okay.
20:13I'm going to shut this
20:14door, but just for privacy.
20:15Okay?
20:16Um, I can only imagine
20:19what you're going through.
20:20Um, I'm not even going to
20:21pretend to understand,
20:23but there's a lot going on here.
20:24Um, and your sister,
20:26just let me make sure
20:27I have all the names right.
20:28Your current boyfriend?
20:30Is Jesus.
20:31Right.
20:31Okay.
20:32And your sister is Devin?
20:35Mm-hmm.
20:35Okay.
20:38So obviously,
20:39a lot of different dynamics
20:40with this relationship,
20:43um, just with,
20:44with Devin being your sister.
20:46She's just extremely angry
20:48with the fact that
20:49I have what she wants,
20:51which is a family.
20:52And I don't know why.
20:54I was just like,
20:54I feel like Devin's going to be mad
20:56and she's going to
20:58try to do something.
21:00So you think whoever did this,
21:01you think it was somebody
21:03who targeted Jason?
21:04You don't think it was
21:05somebody random?
21:06No.
21:06If I'm being honest,
21:07I think it came from her.
21:09And I think it was somebody,
21:11her boyfriend, AJ, whatever.
21:14Can you tell me more
21:14about what maybe
21:16made you think that?
21:17In the past,
21:18she kind of threatened Jason.
21:19She was like,
21:20AJ knows where you live
21:21and he has his guns.
21:24And they said he was shot,
21:26of course.
21:28Immediately thought of
21:29AJ.
21:30Do you know if
21:31Devin has access to guns?
21:35AJ gave her a gun once.
21:37So absolutely,
21:38in your mind,
21:38you think that this
21:39came from Devin,
21:40whether she did it herself
21:41or she had something else
21:43to inform her?
21:43No, no,
21:44no doubt about it.
21:45Wow.
21:46Absolutely.
21:47Okay.
21:48It's not easy
21:48to talk about.
21:52Thank you, Rosa.
21:53It was nice to meet you.
21:54Thank you.
21:55Thank you.
21:56Thank you.
22:08Just answer the phone
22:09and ask her questions.
22:10We're not here.
22:11She can come pick up the kid.
22:13this is Wren.
22:15Can I help you?
22:22Speaker.
22:26No,
22:26Jason has not
22:27picked up yet.
22:28Okay,
22:29well,
22:29I don't know
22:30what's happening
22:31because people
22:32keep calling me
22:32and telling me
22:33that something
22:34has happened
22:35to Jason
22:35and if he hasn't
22:36that makes me wonder
22:38if something
22:39did actually happen.
22:40I don't know
22:41if I'm going to be able
22:42to get there.
22:43I'm going to need to stand by.
22:56If Jason ends up showing up
22:58in the next 30 minutes
22:59can you let me know
23:00because I need to try
23:02to get a hold of him too.
23:03I don't know what comes to mind.
23:04Sure.
23:05I absolutely will.
23:06Yeah.
23:07Okay.
23:07Great.
23:08Thank you so much.
23:09Okay.
23:09Thank you.
23:10Good job.
23:11Sam 180.
23:12Just be advised
23:13the suspect called
23:15said she was
23:16in Fort Collins.
23:17She says
23:18she is unable
23:19to come get him
23:20at the moment.
23:21I have one idea.
23:22I copy.
23:27Hi.
23:28I was transferred to you.
23:30I've been getting
23:30a lot of calls
23:31from people
23:32that I know
23:33saying that there
23:34may have been
23:34an accident
23:35with my son's father.
23:37What's your name?
23:38Devin Schreiner.
23:40Okay.
23:41Yeah.
23:41There's been an incident
23:43and so we're trying
23:44to figure out
23:45what's going on.
23:46Can you tell me
23:46what's happening
23:47because everybody
23:48just keeps saying
23:49there's an accident
23:49and my son is supposed
23:50to be with him right now.
23:52We have the son.
23:53He's fine.
23:54You have my son?
23:55Yep.
23:55Why?
23:56I don't understand
23:56why nobody called me.
23:58Well, let's figure out
23:59what's going on.
24:00Are you able to come
24:00down to the police department?
24:01I mean, you have my son.
24:03Yes, of course
24:03I'm coming down there.
24:23Hi.
24:23Hi.
24:24Are you Devin?
24:25Yes.
24:25Hi, Devin.
24:25I'm Detective Jones.
24:27Hi.
24:27Thank you for coming down.
24:28We're going to go right over here.
24:29Where is he?
24:31I'm not sure
24:32where he is exactly
24:32but we're going
24:33to come this way
24:34and we'll see if we...
24:35I need my son.
24:37Somebody needs
24:37to tell me where he is.
24:38Okay.
24:39And we'll find that
24:40out right away.
24:45This is just our...
24:47We're going to go
24:47right here.
24:49I think they're going
24:49to bring him
24:50down this way.
24:51Okay, well,
24:51I need him to be here now.
24:53Who is he with?
24:54He's going to be
24:55with an officer right now.
24:56I need to know
24:57where my kid is
24:58and I need to know
24:58what's happening
24:59because nobody's
25:00telling me anything.
25:01I'm sure they're
25:01bringing somebody down.
25:03We're going to tell you
25:03what's going to happen.
25:04Do you want to take
25:04a seat for a second?
25:06You can stay standing
25:07if you'd like
25:09but...
25:09Okay.
25:10It sounds like
25:11somebody's coming here.
25:12Just a second.
25:12Let me make sure
25:13somebody's on their way.
25:21Do you have custody
25:22of your kiddo?
25:23Me and his father
25:24shared half and half custody.
25:27Okay.
25:29And we'll get
25:30all that taken care of
25:31and figure it out here.
25:33We definitely know
25:33your son is safe
25:35and...
25:35You know he's safe.
25:36I don't know he's safe.
25:37Nobody called me.
25:39Okay.
25:39He's got more answers
25:42than I do.
25:42Where is my son?
25:43I haven't seen him
25:44and I don't know
25:45what's happened.
25:46He was taken
25:46from his school
25:47without my knowledge
25:49or consent
25:49and I don't...
25:50I don't know
25:51what's happened
25:51to his father.
25:52So I need to...
25:53Where is he?
25:55He needs to be here.
25:57All right.
26:00Thank you.
26:00Thank you.
26:01Let's go.
26:04I don't really care.
26:06I just...
26:06I want my son.
26:07Where is my son?
26:08I'll tell you everything.
26:09Come up here.
26:13You're Devin?
26:14Yes.
26:15Am I pronouncing it right?
26:16Yes.
26:17I'm Steve.
26:17You can call me Steve.
26:19We've got to step back here
26:20a little bit.
26:21I've got to tell you
26:22some bad news.
26:25Your ex-boyfriend, is it?
26:27Ex-husband?
26:28It's just...
26:28I just call him
26:29my son's dad.
26:30Son's dad.
26:31We were never married, but...
26:32He died today.
26:38What?
26:39How?
26:39What happened?
26:41Some shot him in the face.
26:42In the face?
26:44Where?
26:46I've got a lot to share with you.
26:48I want to tell you
26:49that your son's safe right now.
26:51But I want to read your rights
26:53just so you know about it.
26:55Read me my rights?
26:56Yeah.
26:56Just to get it out of the way.
26:59For what reason?
27:00Well, it's a...
27:01You know, your son's dad died today.
27:04So we want to at least ask you
27:05some questions about
27:06how to do our due diligence.
27:07Maybe you know something about it.
27:09I was at work today.
27:11Perfect.
27:11You've got a good excuse.
27:14Um, shouldn't be a big deal.
27:16But I want to ask you about it.
27:18I want to exonerate you if possible
27:19and then move on to the next suspect.
27:22So let me read your rights.
27:23Devin, you have the right to rent silent.
27:24Anything you say can
27:25and will be used against you.
27:26You don't go to a lot.
27:27And if any of your rights in mind,
27:29can I talk to you now?
27:30Yes.
27:31Do you know of anyone
27:32that want to get Jason in trouble?
27:34In trouble?
27:35No.
27:36Or out to get him?
27:37Want to shoot him?
27:38No.
27:38I don't know anybody
27:39that would want to hurt him.
27:42I don't think this is a coincidence
27:43that your ex got shot in the face today.
27:47It looked like a hit.
27:49Looks like someone pulled up,
27:50ran out, shot him,
27:52ran back to the car,
27:53sped off,
27:54fired five times.
27:56They didn't steal anything from him.
27:58There wasn't a road rage case.
28:01Someone shot him
28:02because they were really upset
28:03with him.
28:03They shot him in cold blood.
28:04They shot him five times
28:06and got a plate to death there.
28:07That's someone who knows this guy.
28:09And you know him very well.
28:12Are you involved in it?
28:13Because someone is there doing this.
28:16It's not a random shooting.
28:18I understand why
28:20I would be a suspect
28:22because of who I am related to him,
28:24but I was at work on my route.
28:27I believe you have some knowledge of this.
28:30If your boyfriend
28:31or your friend
28:32or some guy you hired
28:34maybe to beat him up,
28:35things went too far,
28:36this is the time to come forward
28:38and come clean
28:39and let me know.
28:40Did you have AJ do something?
28:41Do you think AJ was involved
28:43in something like this?
28:44Do you think?
28:44No.
28:45I think you're definitely involved in this.
28:46But maybe,
28:47maybe you're down here
28:48where you're just trying
28:49to prevent something.
28:51Whoever's there,
28:53maybe they went too far
28:54and you didn't know it.
28:55So that's why I'm trying
28:56to give you some,
28:56some type of plausible deniability.
28:58Because something happened
29:00and you're involved
29:02somehow to some degree.
29:04But if there's someone else
29:06involved in this,
29:07we're going to find out.
29:21Last time.
29:23Good scene.
29:26How are you?
29:27Good.
29:28Are you AJ?
29:29Yeah.
29:30AJ, my name's
29:30Inspector Chris Lucas.
29:31I'm a federal agent.
29:32Okay.
29:33United States Postal Inspection Services.
29:35Okay.
29:35We just want to talk to you
29:36a little bit about a lady
29:37by the name of Devin Schreiner.
29:39Do you know her?
29:40Yeah.
29:40How do you know her?
29:41She's a friend.
29:42So, I mean,
29:43it's pretty important
29:44why we're here.
29:45Yeah.
29:46I saw the news reports.
29:48Were you home today
29:49or were you working?
29:50I was home.
29:51Okay.
29:51Did she stop by here?
29:53She delivers mail out here.
29:55What time was she here?
29:5611 something
29:57to probably about 12, 15.
30:00You know,
30:00the timeline's important to us.
30:02Right.
30:02So, she was here around 11
30:04and she stayed till 12, 15.
30:07Yeah.
30:08And I left
30:08and went to Hoogers
30:09and ate with some friends.
30:11Okay.
30:11And so, when you left here,
30:15was she still here?
30:16I left and she was in her truck.
30:18And so, you left about 12, 15-ish.
30:20When you left,
30:21she was still sitting in her truck.
30:22Right.
30:23And did you think
30:23that she could be violent at all?
30:25Did you ever think that?
30:27Do I think she's capable
30:28of killing somebody?
30:29I don't.
30:29So, I don't have more questions.
30:32A couple things
30:33that we'll follow up on.
30:34I'd just be 100% honest
30:35to murder an investigation.
30:37Yeah.
30:37Do you have any questions
30:38for me right now?
30:39No, I mean,
30:40I asked for those.
30:41All right.
30:461030,
30:47the interview ended for now.
30:49This is Chris Lucas
30:49on 1013 in 2021.
31:02All right.
31:03All right.
31:03We're going to get this
31:05going here together.
31:06We're going to introduce you
31:07to what I just arrived.
31:09I'm a U.S. Postal Inspector.
31:12My name's Ken.
31:13So, I know you work
31:14for the post office
31:15and have worked
31:16for the post office.
31:17Mm-hmm.
31:17So, because this is
31:19kind of postal related
31:20and you're working today,
31:21I want me to chitchat
31:22with you about
31:22kind of what happened
31:24and some of your
31:24activities today, okay?
31:32Well, let's start off with,
31:34are you comfortable
31:35where you're sitting?
31:36Or would you rather sit?
31:37I don't go here.
31:38Okay.
31:39I just really want my kid
31:40and it's not happening, so.
31:42Yeah.
31:43Well, first off,
31:45I'm sorry about
31:45what's happened today.
31:47Today's been a stressful day
31:50for you, for your child.
31:52So, I understand that.
31:54I don't think you do.
31:56Well, I can empathize
31:57with the fact that
31:58it's probably one
32:00of the worst days
32:00in your life.
32:02So, I don't.
32:02Well, on top of what happened,
32:04my child was picked up
32:05by the police from school
32:07and I was not contacted.
32:09Okay.
32:09I understand.
32:10I'm a father.
32:11I've got kids myself.
32:13That would upset me, too.
32:14I'm sure he's being
32:16taken care of right now.
32:17But let me start off
32:18with today.
32:18When did you get to work?
32:20I got to work about,
32:21I don't know,
32:22quarter to eight,
32:23eight o'clock.
32:24Okay.
32:24And I started delivering
32:25about 10.30.
32:27What time did you get off work?
32:31Almost five.
32:32So, you got back
32:33into your Nissan.
32:34Was it,
32:35it was at the post office?
32:37And then you drove
32:40the Nissan from work
32:41to home?
32:43Yes.
32:43Is that what you're saying?
32:44Yes.
32:45Okay.
32:45Does anybody else
32:46drive that vehicle
32:47or is that just your car?
32:49No, it's mine.
32:50Are you the only one
32:50that has keys to the car?
32:53Uh, yeah.
32:54There's no spare keys
32:55for the car
32:56or anything like that?
32:57I mean,
32:58I have a spare set
32:59somewhere in my house,
33:00but...
33:01But you said
33:01you live by yourself.
33:03Yeah.
33:03AJ doesn't come over
33:04and live with you at all.
33:06Okay.
33:09Um,
33:10is there a way
33:11that I can be escorted
33:13to the bathroom?
33:14Yeah.
33:15Yeah,
33:15we'll put you to the bathroom.
33:16Can I show you this first
33:17if you don't mind?
33:18That's good.
33:20You mind if I sit here?
33:21I don't want to invade your space.
33:23I'll sit right here for you.
33:28Oh,
33:30so...
33:32so what happened
33:32in this general area,
33:34Renaissance Drive
33:35at Heather Hill Circle.
33:37Okay.
33:38One of the things
33:39that we went out
33:40and did today,
33:41or the police department did,
33:43um,
33:44and they had a lot of help,
33:45is
33:46they pulled surveillance
33:48video
33:50from a lot of different
33:51locations in the area.
33:52Yes.
33:53They actually captured
33:55what happened
33:56on one of the surveillance
33:57videos.
33:59That's what the, uh,
34:00detective said.
34:01Okay.
34:01They also captured
34:04the vehicle
34:06that was involved
34:07on the surveillance footage,
34:09and they captured
34:11the license plate,
34:13and it was your vehicle.
34:26So, you know what
34:27almost every house
34:28has these days?
34:30They have cameras.
34:32So, we have your car
34:33over there.
34:35You already told me
34:36you're the only person
34:37that drives that vehicle.
34:39I also told you
34:39I was at work,
34:40and nobody seems
34:41to believe that either.
34:42Now, we understand
34:43that you are at work
34:43for part of the time.
34:44I believe that.
34:45I didn't say that either.
34:47Say what?
34:48I didn't say part of the time.
34:50I said I was at work
34:50all of the time.
34:51Okay.
34:51Your vehicle was over there
34:53where this happened
34:54at the time that it happened.
34:56We have witnesses,
34:57and we have surveillance footage.
34:59I don't have an answer for that.
35:01Okay, you don't have an answer.
35:02You have, like,
35:02zero answer?
35:04How do you think
35:05something like that
35:06could happen?
35:06I'm going to ask
35:07to speak to a lawyer
35:09if we're going to continue
35:10with this questioning.
35:11I don't have an answer for that.
35:17So, here's the situation.
35:19I need you to go ahead
35:19and turn around for me.
35:21Turn around.
35:22Put your hands behind your back.
35:24Can I release your fingers?
35:26Do not move, okay?
35:36All right.
35:36So, you are under arrest, okay?
35:38So, we're going to
35:38take you downstairs.
35:39We are, uh,
35:40going to get your clothing
35:41and we'll let you
35:42put the bathroom down there,
35:43okay?
35:44Right this way.
36:13I'm going to hit it.
36:14Okay, there we go.
36:15You remember me?
36:15Chris Lucas,
36:16the Postal Inspector?
36:17Yeah.
36:18We have Detective Burke,
36:19the long model.
36:25We just want to kind of
36:26clean up some of the stuff
36:27with Devin and her timeline.
36:28One of the things
36:29you told me is
36:30that she drives, uh,
36:32like a Nissan Rogue
36:33or Milano.
36:34Yeah.
36:35Is that correct?
36:36Okay.
36:37So, this is her car
36:38on the license plate reader
36:40back in May.
36:41That's her car.
36:41That's her car.
36:45That's her car.
36:47This is down
36:49at the scene
36:50in the neighborhood
36:51of the shooting.
36:53You'll see the time,
36:5412.06.
36:55Uh, that's her car.
36:57So, originally,
36:58you told us that
36:59she was up there
37:00at your house with you
37:00until 12.15
37:01when you left
37:02to go to Hooters.
37:03Can you explain that?
37:05Yeah.
37:07She was not with me.
37:10Um...
37:13Well, she wasn't.
37:14You know.
37:14Do you have any idea
37:15what that picture is
37:16right there?
37:19Looks like she missed.
37:22So, those were phone signals
37:23coming from your phone
37:25down in the Longmont area
37:26in the same neighborhood
37:28as the shooting.
37:29So, we know that you
37:30were in Longmont
37:30that morning.
37:31You're a smart guy.
37:32I think you know
37:33where we're going
37:33with this.
37:36This morning,
37:37she told me
37:37that she was going
37:38to do anything.
37:39I tried to talk her out of it.
37:40And she told me
37:41that there was
37:42no talking around.
37:43So, I went out there.
37:44I knew his route number.
37:46I found him.
37:47And I told him
37:48that he should watch out for her.
37:50And he said,
37:51I'm not scared
37:51of that bitch.
37:53How long do you think
37:54you were following him for?
37:56Um, most of the morning
37:57was when he started
37:58this route.
37:59Okay.
38:00Because she told me
38:01first thing in the morning
38:02when I dropped her off
38:03at work
38:04that that was going
38:06to be the day.
38:07And I was like,
38:07do what?
38:08She was like,
38:09I'm going to get rid
38:09of Jason today.
38:11So, I don't think
38:12that's a good idea.
38:13She was like,
38:14no, I'm done with this.
38:16She said that he
38:17did something with
38:19their parenting agreement
38:21that he was getting
38:21full custody
38:22and that Rosa
38:23was going to step in
38:24and be the mom
38:24and that their,
38:25that side of the family
38:26was going to be able
38:28to provide better for her.
38:30She was going to be able
38:32So, you know
38:33that she wants
38:34to kill this guy.
38:35So much so
38:36to the extent
38:37that you go down
38:38to where his mail route
38:39is to keep an eye
38:40on him just in case
38:41she shows up
38:42so that you can
38:42confront her.
38:43Correct.
38:44But you didn't feel
38:44like it was serious
38:45enough to notify
38:46the police,
38:47say, hey,
38:48she's going to kill
38:48this guy.
38:49Why didn't you tell anyone?
38:50You didn't say it's 2020
38:51but I thought
38:53I could talk her down.
38:54You didn't tell anyone.
38:55You did think
38:56she was going to do it.
38:57You went down there
38:58to warn him.
38:59You're saying
38:59that you believed
39:00it so much
39:01you went all the way
39:02down to Longmont
39:03to follow a mail truck
39:05around for two
39:06or three hours.
39:07That's how much
39:07you believed it
39:09and you didn't
39:10tell anyone else.
39:11That's what I'm
39:12supposed to believe?
39:13What I thought
39:14she did...
39:14Why did you go down
39:15there to follow him
39:16around if you didn't
39:17think that's what
39:17she was going to do?
39:19Because I wanted
39:20to stop her
39:20if she came out there.
39:21So you did think
39:21she was on the way
39:22to go down there
39:23to follow?
39:23I didn't discuss
39:24with her about
39:25going and killing
39:25someone.
39:26So you just helped
39:26her cover it up
39:27afterwards by not
39:28telling anybody
39:28and by lying about it.
39:31All right,
39:31you're under arrest.
39:32Go ahead,
39:32stand up.
39:33Place your hands
39:33behind your back.
39:34It's impossible
39:35to do that
39:36out there
39:37in the parking lot.
39:38No, no.
39:39Stand up for me.
39:41Go on,
39:42I know.
39:51Yes,
39:52there's no really
39:52clear personal murder
39:53to say,
39:54but there's some
39:54five things.
39:56There's a murder case.
39:57All right,
39:58let's get on.
40:00CBS4's Kelly Werthmann
40:01joining us
40:02ahead of a vigil
40:03for Schaefer tonight.
40:04Kelly,
40:05you have new information
40:06on the second person
40:07now arrested.
40:08Jim,
40:09Longmont police
40:10have arrested a man
40:10they say was complicit
40:12in the murder
40:13that happened here
40:14just last week.
40:1534-year-old
40:16Andrew Ritchie
40:17was taken
40:17into custody
40:18last night
40:19on charges
40:19for complicity
40:20to commit
40:21first-degree murder.
40:40Hi.
40:41Hi, dear.
40:42Are you okay?
40:43What's wrong?
40:46There's more news
40:47today.
40:49What happened?
40:55AJ
40:57was telling them
40:58everything
41:01as well as
41:03they found a picture
41:04of you
41:05in the outfit.
41:17I'm sorry
41:18you had to hear
41:18all that
41:19on the news.
41:21There's a lot
41:21stacked against you.
41:28I'm sure there is.
41:36I don't know
41:37I don't know
41:37how that's
41:37going to happen.
41:40We'll let the lawyers
41:41worry about that.
41:45Guilty.
41:46That's the verdict
41:46for a woman
41:46on trial
41:47for killing
41:47a postal worker
41:48in Longmont.
41:49Jason Schaefer
41:50was shot and killed
41:51while on the job.
41:52Police later
41:52arrested his
41:53ex-girlfriend
41:54Devin Schreiner.
41:55Well,
41:55today a jury
41:56found her
41:56guilty
41:57of first-degree murder.
41:58she was immediately
41:59sentenced to life
42:00in prison
42:00without the possibility
42:01of parole.
42:13Today the U.S. Postal Service
42:15of Colorado
42:15had a procession
42:17in Schaefer's honor.
42:1847 postal trucks
42:20driving the same
42:21delivery route
42:22he was driving.
42:23Well,
42:23it was stirring
42:24how people came together
42:25tonight in this
42:26upscale neighborhood.
42:27The stories
42:27they shared
42:28of an adoration
42:30for Jason Schaefer
42:32by the people
42:33who lived around here
42:34and the love
42:35of his co-workers
42:36who said
42:37he had lifted them up.
42:39Evening, everyone.
42:40As a cool October evening
42:41grew dark and chilly,
42:42well over 100 people
42:43protected by the warmth
42:44of their candles
42:45paid tribute
42:46to Jason Schaefer.
42:47He'll always be my son.
42:48I always called him kiddo.
42:50As they raise candles
42:51this night,
42:52the loss
42:52that breaks many hearts
42:53is only becoming
42:54clearer.
42:55I just don't know
42:56what to say
42:56I'm going to miss
42:57him so much.
43:10I just don't know
43:11up to her.
43:11I'm going to miss
43:11I'm going to miss
43:11your name.
43:11you.
43:11Gracias por ver el video
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