Un programma storico che ha documentato la storia del nostro paese in una riedizione preparata con l'intento di riportare alla luce personaggi ed eventi che offrono ancora un'occasione di riflessione. Protagonista di questa puntata: Don zeno
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00:11Thank you all.
00:45We have been lazzaroni, we have made wars, we have made evolutions, we have massacred the Mesomondo, we have destroyed the children, we have destroyed the families, we have ruined
00:59All.
00:59And we are here to tell you, don't do as we did, we have not been exemplary, we are failures.
01:06You cannot follow our team, our Syria, we are not examples for ourselves, we are failures.
01:14And we must tell you in front of our children and we must ask forgiveness for our lives, forgiveness that we are twenty exemplary.
01:34Everything he said was deeply felt, it had a charm that was not only priestly but human.
01:45How many founders of new institutions in the Church found themselves almost persecuted?
01:59He is one of the priests that I respect and admire the most, I always say that they are the true revolutionaries that
02:07Italy had in the post-war period.
02:11He conceived the idea that would make him go down in history as one of the great agitators of the 50s, the occupation of a field
02:22of concentration.
02:24It was the Fossoli concentration camp, one of the many crude and brutal expressions that men inexorably arrive at when
02:34they replace the law of justice and love with the law of the forest.
02:41One day he said let's go and occupy it, he made it up with two trucks, some guys and so on, we went right in there.
02:59Doveno was especially concerned with one thing, the theatrical aspect of the discostana.
03:05He had placed two or three old cameras in strategic positions and the editing is superb.
03:11The short film about the boys entering the camp and the destruction of the fences and walls are absolutely superb scenes.
03:23Even the children, with their presence applauding when the walls and fences came down, it was a moment
03:32great satisfaction.
03:45A gesture that certainly does not go well with Scelpa, who opposed the occupation of the lands in those years
03:50some of the farm workers around Italy.
04:01Do you know what I'd like to do, Your Holiness? Use your phone.
04:05And who would you like to call?
04:07Ah, I would call De Gasperi and then Monsignor Montini, the deputy secretary of state.
04:11And you know what I'd tell him? If I were the Pope, eh?
04:14I would tell him that humanity is divided into two groups, on one side the rich, the powerful, on the other the
04:19the poor and the oppressed, who are many.
04:21They are 99% of the world.
04:23Christ is with them and the Church must be with them and a Christian party must be with them.
04:31The first time Zeno Saltini felt the need to defend his particular vision of the Church,
04:37he was 19 years old and a conscript soldier in Florence.
04:42One evening a discussion about the Catholic Church arose with an anarchist comrade
04:50which proclaims that the Church is the great obstacle to the progress of peoples.
04:56An anarchist friend of mine who we were always together,
04:58At one point we had a debate, in the midst of all the soldiers.
05:01And he argued that the Church is Christ on the obstacle to human progress.
05:06I was saying the opposite.
05:08No, but there is a discussion, some were whistling, some here and there.
05:11After this discussion, I retired to a room alone.
05:16He retreats crying.
05:20It's the first big defeat of his life.
05:23And I went through a bad time in my mind, that is, a great struggle within myself.
05:28Strong, strong, I think I'm dying.
05:30He swears that evening that he will demonstrate with his life that only in Christianity is it possible to realize that ideal of
05:38fraternity
05:39that the other advocates in the name of an ideology that he is convinced he will never be able to achieve.
05:47This anarchist was 90% right against, not against me, against that thing.
05:53He looked at the Church, the Christian, Catholic people, he looked at it as a whole, a block of peoples, a people, in short.
06:03I mean the people of God, eh.
06:04God's people always say.
06:05From that crisis he decides to abandon his life and become a priest.
06:25In 1929, the young Zeno Saltini graduated in law from the Catholic University of Milan.
06:31As a lawyer he fervently takes up the cause of poor children,
06:35but he soon realizes that to change the foundations of a deeply unjust society,
06:40the road must be another.
06:45I decided to become a priest at 30, I went to seminary for a year, not even.
06:50Then they immediately did it to me, I told them, from the tests you can do it right away.
06:54And there I went, I celebrated the first mass in the Duomo dei Catti.
07:04It shocks everyone, because at his first mass with the authorities, etc., etc.,
07:11he brings with him an ex-convict, who will be the first of his children.
07:16So, I said, I'm coming to the Cathedral to a madman,
07:20that you take that young man who just came out of prison,
07:23who is 18-19 years old, you dress him very elegantly.
07:26You take him to the cathedral in Carpi and I, celebrating the first mass,
07:30I take him as my son.
07:32I was the first of Don Zeno Saltini,
07:37who welcomed me as his firstborn,
07:41that we were abandoned, behold, we were seven abandoned brothers.
07:46He tells him, nothing changes,
07:49that you are always the one who gives,
07:52that is always the one who receives.
07:55You are gratified, this one is humiliated.
07:58And so I change the care relationship
08:01which is customary on these poor unfortunates,
08:05on these children of abandonment, in short,
08:08and I bring them to the level of filiation, of paternity.
08:11So a trend was born there.
08:16In the first and second year at San Giacomo Roncole
08:20a child dies of hunger.
08:23A child dies of hunger because winter,
08:24without labor resources, it was a time of hunger.
08:28For Don Zeno it is a terrible trauma.
08:33He dies of hunger with many families
08:34who have granaries full of wheat
08:37who are just waiting for the opportunity to sell at a higher price.
08:45Descend to me, maledicti, nigne emeternum.
08:47I was thirsty, I was hungry, I was imprisoned.
08:50You did not help me, you go cursed into the fire of the earth.
08:53It will be the Gospel passage that will constitute a little
08:56the leitmotif of Don Zeno's life.
08:59And I understood that the relationship between those who need and those who can
09:10It doesn't have to be a pure care relationship,
09:14instead it's a new relationship.
09:18It's his particular way of being a priest.
09:21Don Zeno takes in orphans and children in difficulty.
09:25The Work of the Little Apostles was born in 1933.
09:29The survival conditions are very difficult,
09:32but soon Don Zeno is joined by other priests
09:35eager to help him build his project.
09:39Don Zeno, when he was assistant priest in this parish
09:43from the lower Modena area, gathers some boys.
09:46These guys agree to collaborate with him,
09:49who is an apostle, a priest,
09:51and therefore he calls them little apostles.
09:55I was a beggar, I went to beg.
10:00After school I left,
10:02my brother came to get the folder
10:05and I went around to families like that to ask for something.
10:10One day I go to a house,
10:14I hear people talking under the farmers' porch,
10:18I'm going there, there's a dedication.
10:22And he says to him, what are you doing here?
10:24And I had a little bit too
10:27and there is fear, not fear in short,
10:29I was almost moved,
10:30I go into the morde,
10:32and tells him,
10:34I throw away the dirty one
10:35and come with me.
10:40In the summer of 1940,
10:44I studied Modena Theology
10:46and I wanted to go and look at it,
10:49without a heart, a colè,
10:50to speak to this priest
10:53whose fame was spreading.
10:56And after an hour-long conversation
10:58I was struck, almost thunderstruck.
11:09Don Zeno did not want to create a fanatrhodium,
11:13this is a lot,
11:13why do people believe that Don Zeno
11:16wanted to do,
11:16a lot of good has been done,
11:18but his program was different,
11:21was to create a people.
11:27Since Don Zeno had many ideals,
11:29among which the cinema.
11:32The problem is to understand immediately
11:34that cinema was the medium
11:35at the most effective time
11:37to gather people.
11:40We need propaganda.
11:43Propaganda,
11:44and he already had two or three cinemas,
11:45he already had the cinema outside.
11:47And he also said
11:48with his fellow priests,
11:50you will have empty churches
11:52and you will see the fullest cinematographic films,
11:54so we have to make movies.
11:57Don Zeno sharpens his wits,
11:59study every means
12:01to attract simpler people.
12:03Take advantage of the cinema
12:04of the film's interval
12:06for his sermons on the Gospel.
12:08Start collecting
12:09the most desperate cases
12:10which become very many,
12:13the rectory fills up with children,
12:16he doesn't want to create the college,
12:18a priest alone
12:19he couldn't raise children,
12:21including very young children.
12:22He told me, I think,
12:24one of the first stories
12:26when he at night
12:28he went to wake up the children
12:30to make him pee,
12:32because otherwise they would ruin the mattresses
12:34that he still had to pay
12:36and told him
12:37I took them in my arms,
12:39but it was as if he was hugging a piece of wood
12:41because he missed it
12:43a father and a mother.
12:44For his education
12:46He wants these children
12:47have a mother.
12:48Don Zeno always told us
12:50hold on
12:51that one day mothers will come,
12:54one day the mothers will come
12:56and now we always have
12:58believed and waited.
13:05In 1941 a mother figure, Irene, will arrive,
13:09July 21st.
13:10She will run away from home
13:12and she will become a mother
13:14of these abandoned children.
13:21I was a minor
13:22and since to go to Don Zeno
13:25I didn't say anything
13:26to mom and dad
13:29because I was the last one
13:30of eight brothers
13:32and then I would have...
13:34I thought it would be
13:36a battle
13:37and it was a big one.
13:41So then at 18 years old
13:43I thought about coming away
13:45but I ran away from home.
13:49Then he came right away
13:51my sister,
13:52my sister,
13:53the firstborn,
13:54and says
13:55you have to come home
13:57because mom is sick,
14:00Dad is sick.
14:05he took me
14:06and he gave me
14:08a few slaps.
14:10I said
14:11Look,
14:12his name was Iones,
14:13my sister,
14:14Look,
14:15I can't come home,
14:16I already promised
14:17That
14:18I have to be the mom
14:20of these children.
14:22Then the dad
14:24he went
14:25from the cravinieri,
14:26he reported
14:27Don Zeno.
14:30That is, they are young ladies.
14:31who have given up
14:32by faith,
14:34by an act of faith of theirs,
14:36they gave up
14:36at the wedding
14:37to dedicate oneself completely
14:38to replace the mother
14:40to the children
14:40who lost it
14:41and then they always remain
14:43fond of them
14:44like children,
14:45In short.
14:45Him
14:48puts on
14:49families
14:50impressive,
14:5110,
14:5115,
14:52little children
14:52with needs
14:54terrible,
14:55when they are not there
14:55the washing machines
14:56he washes himself but.
14:57Every morning
14:58that I get up
14:59it always seems to me
14:59the early morning
15:00with the same enthusiasm,
15:01with the same zeal,
15:03I run,
15:04I do things
15:05almost like,
15:06I don't know,
15:07as if it were a vigil,
15:09a preparation
15:09at a party
15:10and this was
15:11a force
15:11very great in me.
15:13Truly
15:14they were
15:14in history
15:15of Domadelfia
15:16heroines
15:17of greatness
15:18above
15:19of any,
15:20of any praise.
15:23When I entered
15:26I
15:26milk
15:28only
15:28for the little ones
15:30all the others
15:31they were cooked
15:33some chestnuts
15:34dry
15:36And
15:37we ate
15:39that
15:39because there was nothing else.
15:44And the dad
15:45he came once
15:47after 5 years
15:48that they were
15:48in Domadelfia
15:49on that day
15:51we had a little bit
15:52of soup
15:52but the dad
15:54he ate little
15:56and almost always
15:57during lunch
16:03during lunch
16:05he was crying.
16:14I'm very happy
16:16of having accepted
16:18and to have had
16:19the strength
16:20to see
16:22dad too
16:22and the mother
16:23suffer a lot
16:25for me.
16:26A page
16:27absolutely
16:28splendid
16:29the fact
16:31That
16:31this little girl
16:33it can't be said
16:34not even a young lady
16:35mother Irene
16:36that I
16:38I have the great one
16:39honor
16:40to know
16:41for many years
16:42a person
16:43in front of
16:44to which
16:44there is no
16:44that to bow down
16:45and to be admired.
16:47she is
16:48so beautiful
16:53I've got no words
16:56to describe
16:57the way she makes me
17:00feel inside
17:03Irene
17:04who is the first mother
17:06I was going
17:06help her
17:07I was watching them
17:08these children
17:08thinking that like this
17:10but
17:10a bit of detachment
17:12also because
17:13in our house
17:13There were 12 of us brothers.
17:15the child
17:16Indeed
17:17it was not born from me
17:18It is true
17:19but he
17:19he will see in me
17:20the mother
17:21because he feels
17:22the treatments
17:23feels the love
17:23feel the heartbeat
17:24of my heart
17:25I wash it
17:26I feed him
17:27I dress him
17:28the child
17:29it's true that he needs
17:31of the bread he eats
17:32it's true that he needs
17:33even some clothes
17:34to get dressed
17:35but it's increasingly true
17:36who needs
17:37of love
17:41I had 68 of them
17:45but everyone
17:46almost all small
17:4774
17:50but really
17:51I loved them
17:53all in the same way
17:55Yes
17:56I don't think they have
17:58something to say
17:59those too
17:59who are already dead
18:00I'll do it again
18:01Yes
18:02thinking back
18:03I did some things
18:04I gave
18:06so much love
18:07of the creatures
18:07that really
18:08they needed it
18:09they are grateful for it
18:11but
18:13I don't know if I did it
18:15I sincerely
18:17I would do it all over again
18:19because I'm happy
18:21of my vocation
18:29I would never do that
18:30a step in life
18:40it's the 30s
18:41Don Zeno
18:42he is an anti-fascist
18:43convinced
18:44and he never hid it
18:45in 1943
18:47its Christian radicalism
18:49he brings it
18:50inevitably
18:51to the conflict
18:52the speeches
18:53radically anti-fascist
18:55Don Zeno
18:55he made them
18:56in the closed seminary
18:57his preaching
18:59of brotherhood
19:00in conclusion
19:00attracted
19:02even fascists
19:06radicals
19:0725.43
19:09exploded
19:10he summoned them
19:12the people
19:12he summoned the people
19:14etc.
19:14etc.
19:15and they
19:15since
19:16Badoglio
19:16had in order
19:17that all the
19:18gatherings
19:20should be
19:20not allowed
19:22he had collected
19:23there
19:23around him
19:24thousands of people
19:25they have arrived
19:28the carabinieri
19:29they arrested him
19:34he convinces himself
19:36of not being able to
19:37stop
19:38to be
19:39to be
19:40threatened
19:41and decides
19:42to leave
19:43towards the front
19:43with a truck
19:44of young people
19:46draft dodgers
19:47to the lever
19:47dreaming
19:48to cross
19:49to arrive
19:50at the front
19:51and to be able to pass it
19:52the situation
19:53it's increasingly difficult
19:55Don Zeno
19:55he is at the front
19:56and the little apostles
19:58that remain
19:58in San Giacomo
19:59Roncole
20:00they join the resistance
20:01with them
20:02even many priests
20:04of the community
20:05we had lost
20:06seven children
20:06at war
20:07right in the fight
20:09so-called
20:09of the resistance
20:10they were killed
20:12seven of ours
20:13out of 28
20:14that they were
20:14from 18 years old then
20:15seven were
20:16who shot
20:17one cut pieces
20:18it's a scourge
20:19against us
20:23to do
20:24spite
20:25maybe
20:25Don Zeno
20:26they hanged them
20:27in San Giacomo
20:28Roncole
20:28every pole
20:30of the light
20:30there was
20:31a young man
20:31hanged
20:33from the ranks
20:34of the resistance
20:35the priests
20:36of the community
20:37by Don Zeno
20:37they drive that
20:38which is defined
20:39the escape
20:40of the innocents
20:41one hundred children
20:42Jews
20:43they are helped
20:44to escape
20:44in Switzerland
20:45but the consequences
20:47they will be fatal
20:48those who were
20:49condemned to the ovens
20:50they were running away
20:51they came there to us
20:51and we
20:52we dressed them as priests
20:53and then now
20:54they did all the paperwork
20:56Catholics, Apostolic, Roman
20:58everything that was wanted
20:59and then they left them
21:01and they went to Switzerland
21:12when the movement
21:13it was already
21:15enlarged
21:15throughout the province
21:17Unfortunately
21:18one of ours
21:19partisans
21:22he reported us
21:23there is one
21:24who does the relay
21:25at a certain point
21:26they arrest him
21:26Mirandola
21:27Why
21:28they found them
21:29the flyers
21:29then they tell him
21:30or you name names
21:32from whom we love
21:33among all the names
21:35the winds
21:35among which
21:36there were theirs
21:39three priests
21:41they will be arrested
21:42a quarter
21:43which is in the mountains
21:44with the partisans
21:44he will be arrested
21:46and then shot
21:46in Florence
21:47while these three
21:48sentenced to death
21:50miraculously
21:50they will succeed
21:51to survive
21:53Don Zeno
21:54arrives in Rome
21:55in 1944
21:56the city
21:58she was released
21:59recently
21:59meet the men
22:01of Christian democracy
22:02but his idea
22:03of social justice
22:05it's very far away
22:06from the model
22:06which proposes
22:07the new Catholic party
22:09Don Zeno
22:09arrives in Rome
22:10the sensitivity
22:12he warns him
22:13that Italian society
22:14it starts
22:14towards a transformation
22:16radical
22:17that that
22:17which was
22:18it will no longer be
22:19mature
22:20his ideas
22:21And
22:23brings into focus
22:24what will be
22:25then his
22:26his program
22:27his dream
22:29in his twenties
22:30subsequent
22:31Don Zeno
22:31he is convinced
22:32that Catholics
22:33must commit themselves
22:35in defense
22:35of the classes
22:36weaker
22:37and oppressed
22:37writes a letter
22:39to the pontiff
22:40Pius XII
22:41asking for a meeting
22:42but he will wait
22:43in vain
22:44an answer
22:45deeply convinced
22:46that capitalism
22:48be a form
22:49of organization
22:50of the company
22:50absolutely inhumane
22:52because it was founded
22:53on exploitation
22:53of man
22:54on man
22:54on accumulation
22:55of wealth
22:56subtracted
22:57to other men
22:58who need it
23:02proposes a party
23:03that is not ideological
23:04he already writes on July 30th
23:05of 44
23:06at the Pira
23:06don't call
23:07a Catholic party
23:08a party
23:10it doesn't have to be ideological
23:11but it must be
23:11a state
23:12which guarantees
23:13life to everyone
23:16this long reflection of his
23:18it translates into two things
23:19in a memorial
23:20to the Pope
23:21in which he proposes
23:22this strategy
23:25the second thing
23:26meets
23:28in the trattorias
23:28of Rome
23:29the founders
23:30of Christian democracy
23:31and it is born
23:32immediately
23:33the clash
23:38this in my opinion
23:39the key
23:40of the importance
23:41historical
23:41by Don Zeno Saltini
23:42was
23:43the priest
23:45the man
23:45the agitator
23:46who has
23:47proposed
23:48to the Church
23:49a strategy
23:51radically opposed
23:52to that one
23:52of Christian democracy
23:55in May 1945
23:57Don Zeno
23:58return to Modena
23:59the committee
24:00of liberation
24:01from Carpi
24:02he asks him
24:02to speak
24:03to the people
24:04the priest
24:05it starts like this
24:06a sermon
24:07frantic
24:07for the Emilian squares
24:09where it relaunches
24:10his utopia
24:10in Emilia
24:11we talked a lot
24:13to the masses
24:13of this question
24:14to fraternize
24:16to change
24:16route
24:17to change
24:17social system
24:18what does it mean
24:20democracy?
24:22people's government
24:23but it's not true
24:25it's not you
24:27that you govern
24:27you send
24:28in power
24:29of men
24:29which then
24:30they do what they want
24:31and what the church does
24:33Today?
24:35he only cares
24:36to say
24:37what to vote for
24:40Christian democracy
24:43it is the minor mani
24:44that's how it's said
24:45it is the minor mani
24:46Christian democracy
24:48for me
24:49it is the greater good
24:51of the rich
24:51sermon
24:53the rich transformation
24:54of social relationships
24:55and economical
24:56above all
24:57what matters to him
24:58they are the economic relations
24:59of work
24:59with the cycle
25:01of rallies
25:02from the title
25:03fedumoc
25:04make two piles
25:05the rich on one side
25:06all the others together
25:08without ideologies
25:09for respect
25:10of the fundamentals
25:11human needs
25:11there are more of us
25:12we will win
25:15Don Zeno
25:16knows social injustice
25:17since he was little
25:18among the laborers
25:19who work
25:20on my grandfather's farm
25:21Joseph
25:22patriarch
25:23of the big family
25:24Saltines
25:24I was born there
25:26perhaps from Carpi
25:28my grandfather
25:28he had some farms
25:29they had the lands
25:30I saw my friends
25:32my little boys
25:33schoolmates
25:34in the first
25:36second
25:36third
25:36fourth grade
25:37who came to school
25:40even burglaries
25:41and then they were burglaries
25:43almost always
25:43even in winter
25:44even in the snow
25:45and I instead
25:49I had my own
25:49my boots
25:50good
25:51robust
25:52a happy childhood
25:53because to the family
25:54nothing is missing
25:55say that I was born
25:56lucky
25:57but who gives luck?
25:58if there is a God
25:59that gives luck
26:00it's right
26:00he says
26:03so it's not God
26:04that gives luck
26:05they are men
26:05that create trouble
26:06refusal of school
26:08refusal of school
26:08it is the first element
26:09singular of his life
26:10it doesn't matter at all
26:12what they teach
26:14in this school
26:16feel like I'm at school
26:17who always talks
26:17of dead people
26:18let's tell my father
26:47but we go there anymore
26:49and inevitable of society
26:51there is a fearful misery
26:53and the people of God
26:54she was unemployed
26:55a scourge
26:56and they protested
26:58and then I faced with this fact
26:59at a certain point
27:01the school
27:02my conscience
27:03In short
27:03she was really upset
27:04to be in the middle
27:06to this company like this
27:09when he returns to Carpi
27:11after the war
27:12Don Zeno
27:12he feels that he has arrived
27:13the moment
27:14to put into practice
27:15political ideals
27:16of his childhood
27:17and impose
27:18once and for all
27:19the meaning
27:20of distributive justice
27:22the fact is this
27:23that we
27:24we are very interested
27:25of politics
27:27because of politics
27:28we always care
27:29we are always interested in them
27:30he has certain ideas
27:31even political ones
27:32which can be excellent
27:34that I didn't share
27:35he wanted to do
27:37a party of his own
27:38he wanted to do
27:39the great idea
27:40human brotherhood
27:42this is his ideal
27:44nothing of Christian democracy
27:45we were
27:46in this fight
27:47the war is over
27:49we proposed
27:49something to the people
27:50Here you are
27:51we proposed
27:52universal solidarity
27:54justice is this
27:55give each his due
27:57make sure
27:57that each one
27:58be treated
27:59with what
28:01he really needs it
28:01there is nothing else but
28:02to watch
28:02how man is made
28:03which has
28:04certain needs
28:06which are the same in all
28:07and once
28:08that are not observed
28:09and it is not provided
28:10to these needs
28:11of men
28:12you are unfair
28:12and cruel too
28:14and murders too
28:15and infanticides
28:18Christian democracy
28:20he feels
28:20he feels
28:21in this sermon
28:23a thorn in the side
28:25and it begins
28:26and it begins
28:26the friction
28:27that will arrive
28:28to the final showdown
28:31It's May 19, 1947
28:34when Don Zeno
28:35makes the great gesture
28:37and occupies
28:37a concentration camp
28:43they were all
28:45cells where
28:46I don't tell her
28:47what was inside
28:48it had to be redone
28:50All
28:50it was a job
28:53Fantastic
28:54there was no one
28:56even the thugs
28:57everyone worked
28:59to build
29:06and it was beautiful
29:08Why
29:08every family
29:10he had his own rooms
29:12their little garden
29:13around
29:14they felt
29:16right in the family
29:20in Fossoli
29:21they coexist
29:22about 1600 people
29:24of which
29:24800 minors
29:26the expenses
29:27but
29:27they are increasingly larger
29:28Don Zeno
29:29he feels forced
29:31to fall back often
29:32in Rome
29:32the first time
29:33came to the
29:34Interior Ministry
29:35I was
29:36undersecretary
29:37of the presidency
29:38And
29:38he asked him
29:40of aid
29:41because he needed it
29:42for the
29:44village
29:44and there and then
29:46I didn't have
29:47the possibility
29:48it came out
29:48almost a species
29:49of a miracle
29:50Why
29:50one came
29:51of the officers
29:53Americans
29:54of the office
29:55excerpt
29:55of the relationship
29:57that we had
29:57with the government
29:58military
29:58ally
29:59And
30:01I explained
30:01the situation
30:02and the day
30:03After
30:03Don Zeno
30:04he had that
30:05that he needed
30:13moreover
30:15Don Zeno
30:15Always
30:16for his utopia
30:17he was not satisfied
30:18to do
30:19this brotherhood
30:20but
30:21he propagated it
30:22I want to do
30:23a new party
30:24against the DC
30:25outside the DC
30:26continuing
30:28to
30:29proclaim
30:30that Christian democracy
30:32he is against the church
30:33Christian democracy
30:34it's a party
30:35which consecrates
30:37the abuse
30:37bourgeois
30:38in Italy
30:39then in particular
30:40the priests
30:41they can't
30:41participate
30:43to certain political things
30:44active
30:45in an area
30:47so difficult
30:48we have this priest
30:49that reports
30:50our connivance
30:51with the capital
30:52complaint
30:53the lie
30:54of our symbol
30:55it's not possible
30:57but they were all
30:58scandalized
31:00that a priest
31:01said these things
31:02because they played
31:04at that moment there
31:05as
31:06a communist speech
31:08and then
31:09we had political disagreements
31:11in 49
31:13in 50
31:14with who?
31:15with the Christian Democrats
31:16for others
31:17let's say
31:18those
31:18they take their account
31:19but they
31:19they say they are Christians
31:22in the elections
31:23of 1948
31:25Christian democracy
31:27brings home a victory
31:28overwhelming
31:28but the discontent
31:30of the workers' movement
31:31and trade union
31:32it becomes more and more pressing
31:34and in 51
31:36decides with the nomads
31:37to cancel the cards
31:39to the elections
31:40administrative
31:41in the municipality of Carti
31:42about thirty
31:44or forty
31:44of cards
31:45cancellations
31:47with a writing
31:48brothers
31:48humanity
31:49etc.
31:50In short
31:51and there were
31:51and from that point there
31:53after it began
31:54the battle
31:55a gesture
31:56Done
31:57in the Red Emilia
31:58which has a heavy weight
31:59in front of
32:00to Italian public opinion
32:01Indeed
32:02in that area
32:03the DC
32:04lost
32:05many consents
32:06through fault
32:07by Don Zeno
32:08and then
32:08you can imagine
32:09the anger
32:10of these politicians
32:12defeated
32:15Nomadelfia
32:16it is seen
32:16from the political world
32:17and by many Catholics
32:19like a strange one
32:20form of communism
32:21nevertheless
32:22Don Zeno
32:23continues on his way
32:24but in the long run
32:26it does not reveal itself
32:26a good administrator
32:28and the debts
32:29they reach 400 million
32:30for the time
32:31a staggering figure
32:33but
32:33when it was needed
32:34something
32:35he signed
32:37also a sign
32:37empty
32:38Don Veno
32:39with a certain sense
32:40Gascon
32:41he believed that
32:42big
32:43large figure
32:44of debts
32:45he wanted to say
32:46Also
32:46somehow
32:48not being able to be
32:49attacked
32:50from the vaults
32:51I went to the bank
32:52the banker
32:53he told me so
32:54the banker
32:55you know
32:56they have
32:57their rules
32:58we have
32:59the rules
32:59of providence
33:02the debts
33:03I'm the excuse
33:03which allows
33:04to Scelba
33:04to intervene
33:05when the creditors
33:07they come forward
33:08in 1952
33:09Don Zeno
33:10is being processed
33:11in Bologna
33:12for fraud
33:13the trial comes
33:15in Bologna
33:16For
33:19insolvency
33:20false credit
33:22expired bills
33:24with slander
33:27they tried
33:28to confuse
33:30the people
33:30the people
33:31That
33:32not but of the proud
33:33full of debt
33:34he was acquitted
33:38For
33:38the fact
33:39he did not consider
33:41crime
33:42to formula
33:43full
33:44and the lawyer
33:45defender
33:46he said
33:46us today
33:47we did
33:48the process
33:49in Nomadettia
33:50Nomadettia
33:51one day
33:52he will go through the process
33:53in Lone
33:54naturally
33:55the civil authority
33:57intervenes
33:58Scelba
33:58Minister of the Interior
34:00at the time
34:00send the trucks
34:02of the police
34:03load
34:04the boys
34:05and they bring them
34:05the various orphanages
34:07and adults
34:08he sends them back
34:09to the countries
34:10of origin
34:11with the sheet
34:12of the street
34:12mandatory
34:20come with me
34:21come
34:22listen to the children
34:33a terrible thing
34:37especially when the trucks came
34:40that made all the children go up
34:55they cried like this
34:56they put us
34:57when they put them in
34:59they bowed their heads so low
35:01as if they were chicks
35:04a sort of sin
35:06one thing
35:08he would never even come to remember it
35:10so much
35:16after you
35:19I really forced myself to talk about these things
35:22It's Nomadelfia's choice
35:24I spent eight years in Nomadelfia
35:26It's a drama that everyone knows
35:28everything culminates on February 5, 52
35:30when a decree of the Holy Office
35:33forces Don Zeno to leave Nomadelfia
35:35at a certain point
35:37in short, to get us away
35:39we had to make a decree
35:40and the Holy Office did it
35:42and we arrived surprised too
35:44the order to leave has come
35:46naturally communicated with
35:49with all due caution
35:51On the contrary
35:53I was informed
35:55the order saying
35:58that you don't need to know
36:00where did the order come from?
36:01it's the usual procedure of the past
36:04the opponent was the Secretariat of State
36:07and it was his excellency Giovanni Battista Montini
36:14from all the clues
36:16he is Don Zeno's real enemy
36:18the man who decides his fate together with choice
36:22it's interesting with Montini
36:25also remember Cardinal Ottaviani
36:28who was the prefect of the Holy Office
36:30and Cardinal Ottaviani is a sympathizer
36:34also for Don Zeno
36:35but let Ottaviani be
36:38both Monsio Montini
36:40they are also men
36:42let's say government
36:46John Baptist Montini
36:48he was the man linked to Christian democracy
36:50was the co-author of the project
36:53to make Christian democracy
36:55the axis of Italian politics
37:00Montini was a person of great wisdom
37:03of a control of feelings
37:07think of a Montini
37:12enemy
37:12it's a mental operation
37:17that I could never do
37:19and so on
37:23with the old deputy commissioner of Carpi
37:26who ordered the intervention
37:29he confided in me in his old age
37:31before the operation to come to Rome
37:33and to have gone to speak to Giovanni Battista Montini
37:36to understand what the Vatican wanted to do
37:38of that concentration camp
37:40he told me he found absolute coldness
37:43but she is a police officer
37:44what is he coming to do with me?
37:45she has to follow orders
37:47Don Zena
37:48just one question
37:49Has the church gone into free circulation?
37:52answer
37:52Has the church gone into free circulation?
37:54I am sorry
37:54I can't help her
37:56as a child when I was hungry
37:58and I was crying
37:59my mother put me on her knees
38:00and gave me milk
38:01and he taught me to say the Hail Mary
38:03milk and the Hail Mary together
38:05Do you know how many children I have in the community?
38:07if I don't put them on the knees of the church
38:09where do I put them?
38:12God is charity
38:14where is the charity of the church?
38:16there was a moment
38:17poor thing
38:18who finds himself having little understanding
38:20on everyone's part
38:21including ecclesiastical authorities
38:24also because
38:25it was a little new
38:27this idea of these families
38:29so-called artificial
38:32in that context of the Cold War
38:35wall against wall
38:37the communist danger
38:38that looms
38:40because they had conquered
38:42across half of Europe
38:43nuclear threats
38:44on both sides
38:46so in this context
38:48in Italy
38:49we have a strong DC
38:51but a strong PC
38:52this blessed priest
38:54who comes to break the eggs
38:56it is in the basket
38:57with his beautiful ideas
38:59utopian
39:00but anyway
39:01leave the Gospel alone
39:05we proposed this brotherhood
39:07social and political
39:10great contrasts arose
39:13and then
39:15the Pope
39:16I think he did it for this
39:17that's what they told me
39:18of those who are well informed
39:20they always say
39:21it was just needed
39:22the temerity
39:24why Don Zeno
39:25utopian
39:26prophet
39:27idealist
39:28but provocative
39:30that is, it caused
39:31State and Church
39:33as institutions
39:35in the name of the Gospel
39:39Francis
39:40all in all
39:41it wasn't that scandalous
39:46the holy office
39:48send Don Zeno away
39:49the Nomadelfia community
39:51it disperses
39:54in the pamphlet
39:55we don't agree
39:56meanwhile
39:57Don Zeno
39:58accuses the DC
39:59to be against the Church
40:00and against 6 million
40:02of miserables
40:04he wrote a book
40:06not a book
40:0725 charges
40:08against Christian democracy
40:10and so on
40:11he said
40:12democratic at all
40:14Christian little by little
40:17why the holy chair
40:18he knew that we
40:18we didn't agree
40:19with Christian democracy
40:21many that I have written
40:22a book
40:22we don't agree
40:24and I wrote
40:25it has been published
40:26I wrote
40:27that Christian democracy
40:31it is against the Church
40:32but this book
40:33is it on the index?
40:34ninth
40:35not gone
40:35and then
40:37it has been published
40:39it was selling like hotcakes
40:39that one there
40:40he didn't agree
40:41with no one
40:42except with the Gospel
40:43it's a similar letter
40:45but much longer
40:47he wrote it
40:48even at the time
40:49Monsignor Montini
40:50he sent it to her
40:51by hand
40:51from one of our priests
40:53in the letter to Montini
40:56Don Zeno writes
40:58not even the supreme authority
41:00of the Church
41:01has the right to deceive
41:03the people
41:03and violate rights
41:05natural
41:05and supernatural
41:07to satisfy
41:08his plans
41:09after three or four days
41:11he introduces himself
41:12the priest
41:13to be able to
41:14have the answer
41:16and says
41:19I am referring to Don Zeno
41:20that I read
41:22his letter
41:23for three nights
41:24I couldn't sleep
41:25Enough
41:29these are not small sufferings
41:31that of being reported
41:35even if later acquitted
41:37that of being criticized
41:39even in the Catholic world
41:41that of not having supporters
41:43even authoritative people
41:45of the Church
41:46a letter has already been chosen
41:48the Church sent me
41:50and the Church now makes me
41:52I am the most unfortunate man
41:54more unhappy
41:56that exists there
41:56on the face of the earth
42:01it's really safe
42:03of his request
42:05to want the reduction
42:06in the lay state
42:08because he says he wants it
42:10it wasn't a choice
42:12it was a constraint
42:15only the Church
42:16he could move a finger
42:17and I don't have it at all
42:18Yes
42:19that episode
42:20he tried me
42:22he got me
42:23a great pain
42:24and there wasn't
42:25there wasn't
42:26way to prevent it
42:28we stayed
42:29in great embarrassment
42:31not always
42:32you are free
42:34to do
42:34what we would like
42:36but I have to
42:37to be free
42:38I have to be free
42:39to take care of myself
42:40of my community
42:48it was necessary
42:50his presence
42:51be present
42:52as a priest
42:54it was forbidden
42:55and then
42:56he asked
42:57to the Holy See
42:58to be able to be secularized
43:00the Pope after
43:01so much persistence
43:02he did it
43:02because he said
43:03they fight
43:04civilly
43:05but I
43:06that I have them
43:08generated
43:08and brought you here
43:09I can't leave them on
43:11then if I decide
43:13I'm going with them
43:13as a civilian
43:14I fight
43:15he had the brand
43:18he strongly believed
43:19in the things he did
43:20and then
43:21he paid them
43:22for you it was
43:24reduced
43:25the legal status
43:26for nine years
43:33in the estate
43:35in the estate
43:35of the countess
43:35Pirelli
43:36in Maremma
43:37Zeno Saltini
43:38start over again
43:39gathers his scattered children
43:41and tries to rebuild
43:43Nomadelfia
43:43they are about
43:45400 souls
43:46Luca, how beautiful
43:47they are all
43:48cork oaks
43:49let's make the caps
43:51for the wine
43:52what will we do
43:52the difficulties
43:54there will be many
43:55the Scelba government
43:57who wants to help
43:58the rebel priest
43:58commissions
43:59Joseph Di Medici
44:00president
44:01of the Maremma institution
44:02to facilitate
44:03the insertion
44:04Joseph Medici
44:05is delegated
44:06from Scelba
44:06to be president
44:07of the commission
44:08to rearrange
44:09nomadelfia
44:10Doctors
44:12plays
44:13an action
44:13very difficult
44:15of mediation
44:16Why
44:17so much in the Vatican
44:18as in democracy
44:19Christian
44:20there are those who claim
44:21the punishment
44:22drastic
44:23of the rebel
44:24and who instead
44:25he wants the rebel
44:26be insured
44:27the road
44:27to relocate
44:29the community
44:30and be able to
44:31to prolong
44:32life
44:32those children
44:34that come up to me
44:35on the knees
44:36they look at me
44:37full of confidence
44:40I love them
44:41one by one
44:42more than my charge
44:45it made me suffer
44:48it made me suffer
44:49everyone
44:50I was
44:51always with them
44:52they went
44:52then there
44:53in bold
44:54and we were
44:55I was the boss
44:55of the new people
44:57which then
44:58I will have a lot of trouble
44:59poor things
45:14Where it will be
45:15it will also be
45:16taken
45:17for ten years
45:17from the tragic
45:18need
45:19of survival
45:20Why
45:21the community
45:22will be found
45:22in situations
45:23economic
45:24dramatic
45:28here it was
45:30a little bit
45:32ten
45:33or eight
45:33ten years
45:34of misery
45:40we suffered here
45:41just hunger
45:42the thirst
45:43the heat
45:44because we didn't have
45:45the houses
45:46we had tents
45:48without water
45:49without light
45:49homeless
45:50with the light
45:52centile
45:52with carbide
45:56there were none
45:58not even
45:58the means
45:58to work
45:59the lands
46:00we were going
46:01with wheelbarrows
46:02the bavile
46:02etc.
46:03Therefore
46:04was
46:05a job
46:06big
46:07they were
46:08moments
46:09very sad
46:10and so
46:11very quietly
46:12as time goes by
46:13of the years
46:13we succeeded
46:14Almost
46:15to rebuild
46:17All
46:20in 1954
46:21the community
46:23was
46:23rebuilt
46:24but Don Zeno
46:25it's not yet
46:26satisfied
46:27in his city
46:28does not reign
46:29the law
46:29of brotherhood
46:30that he dreamed of
46:31At that time
46:32invents
46:33a new formula
46:34the family group
46:36at a certain point
46:37he notices
46:38that something
46:39it doesn't work
46:40and what was it
46:41that wasn't going well
46:42you see that
46:43very quietly
46:43insensitively
46:45as it happens
46:46to everyone
46:46without malice
46:48but
46:48the families
46:50they lock themselves away
46:51each
46:52in its own small way
46:54in his private life
46:56I wanted
46:57do not create
46:58the family
46:58isolated
46:59then I thought
47:00to do
47:01family groups
47:02with 3-4 people
47:04adults
47:05and it could be done
47:06to be able to
47:07to fix
47:09Well
47:09but not only
47:10to fix
47:11Don Zeno
47:12he had the thought
47:13what are you doing
47:14family groups
47:15we would have been there
47:18known
47:19each other
47:20and we would have learned
47:22to love
47:22not only the children
47:23that Don Zeno
47:24had delivered
47:26to each of us
47:27but also the children
47:28of other mothers
47:29if a mother
47:30he gets sick
47:31there's that other one
47:32if instead
47:33you are all
47:34scattered like this
47:35someone gets sick
47:37you're all on foot
47:39etc.
47:39then after
47:41you can also
47:42to be jealous
47:43of a group
47:44they studied
47:46the family group
47:47it was a canon
47:52after ten years
47:54of hard work
47:54Nomadelfia
47:55is getting closer
47:56to his ideal
47:57Don Zeno
47:58he feels that he has arrived
47:59the moment
48:00to resume
48:00the priestly vestments
48:02and come back
48:03in the arms
48:03of the church
48:04John XXIII
48:06his moment
48:08culminating
48:09who readmits him
48:11to the exercise
48:13of the priesthood
48:14and when I asked
48:15to resume
48:16she can say
48:17even immediately
48:18the question
48:19is that when
48:19he resumed the priesthood
48:21things are going badly
48:21come back to ask
48:22to become rancid
48:24she is sure
48:25that now
48:25Nomadelfia can go
48:26In short
48:27if not for us
48:27for us
48:28it doesn't always come out the same
48:29and I say
48:30no but now
48:31I have never
48:31I'm sure
48:32and I asked
48:33and then he made me
48:33parish priest
48:35Nomadelfia
48:35he made the constitution
48:36and he has the joy
48:38to celebrate
48:39his second
48:41first mass
48:42and it's a moment
48:43of great consolation
49:05the council is coming
49:08always called
49:09from Pope John
49:10the council
49:12is carried forward
49:13by Paul VI
49:14Paul Montini
49:15and many
49:16of those ideas
49:18revolutionary
49:19they begin
49:20finally
49:21to enter
49:23on the circuit
49:24also official
49:25in the church
49:26the Populorum Progressio
49:28by Paul VI
49:29he hints
49:31to this
49:32research
49:33of equality
49:38In 1967
49:40Pope Montini
49:41publishes the encyclical
49:42Populorum Progressio
49:44it's the first
49:45reflection
49:46post-conciliar
49:47on inequalities
49:48in the world
49:49and on the necessity
49:50to set limits
49:51to wealth
49:52and to the property
49:53of the earth
49:54and resources
49:58then to the great consolation
50:01precisely
50:01that Montini
50:02Dad
50:03Paul VI
50:04he receives
50:05and all those
50:07by Noma Delfia
50:08And
50:08encourages them
50:10to move forward
50:11in the end
50:13if we did it
50:14only that
50:15Don Zeno
50:16at a high price
50:17Montini
50:18how it was
50:19in his role
50:20behind the scenes
50:27And
50:28the big one
50:28conclusion
50:30in the eighties
50:31When
50:32John Paul II
50:34here in Castel Gandolfo
50:36receives
50:37everyone
50:37these guys
50:38that they give him
50:39one of theirs
50:40shows
50:41because in the meantime
50:42Don Zeno
50:42he organized
50:43this show
50:45traveling
50:46the boys
50:47and the girls
50:48in Noma Delfia
50:49they do recitals
50:50they do
50:51of the shows
50:53Where
50:53they transmit
50:55Always
50:55their message
50:56Most Holy Father
50:57I
50:59I am very
51:01moved
51:02Why
51:02Truly
51:03I saw
51:04here tonight
51:05the triumph
51:06of a big thing
51:07Holiness
51:08if he comes to confirm
51:09what we said
51:10us
51:11we are very happy
51:12and I'll give her a kiss
51:13I want to give it
51:19is that
51:22that
51:23your idea
51:25as
51:26I was able to
51:28understand it
51:28if we are
51:29called to be
51:31children of God
51:33At that time
51:33the rule
51:34what is called
51:35Name Delphia
51:36And
51:37a pre-announcement
51:38of this
51:40world
51:40future
51:44he hugs
51:46long
51:47the good Don Zeno
51:48saying
51:49you saw
51:50That
51:51in the end
51:52the Lord
51:53he brought
51:54to the light
51:56your utopia
52:01in Noma Delfia
52:02where brotherhood
52:04it's the law
52:04Today
52:05they find welcome
52:06about 300 people
52:07all goods
52:09they are in common
52:10there is no money in circulation
52:11it doesn't exist
52:12the property
52:13private
52:13we do
52:14this proposal
52:15it's clear
52:16That
52:16it's a thing
52:17that lasts
52:18and that people
52:19it won't be put on
52:20never living together
52:21how we live
52:24in Noma Delfia
52:25we're there
52:26only by vocation
52:27the adults
52:33you always have to
52:34to put hand
52:35to the wallet
52:35sometimes enough is enough
52:36to feel like brothers
52:38a good word
52:39Enough
52:39an act
52:41Also
52:41waste half an hour
52:42with a person
52:43who needs
52:44to let off steam
52:45to speak
52:46or to look
52:47a child
52:48pickled
52:49to leave
52:49free
52:50a moment
52:50of the parents
52:54not anyone
52:55he pulled us
52:56for the jacket
52:56and we entered
52:58in Noma Delfia
52:58each of us
53:00he chose
53:01this life
53:01and it was
53:02a choice
53:03our
53:03of each one
53:08hit
53:09heart attack
53:10Don Zeno
53:11dies on January 15
53:121981
53:13he is 83 years old
53:15his work
53:17it's done
53:18his last
53:19wish
53:19it was done
53:20of his funeral
53:21a party
53:22and to leave
53:24with the notes
53:24of a waltz
53:25Don Zeno
53:26he had said
53:26which was round
53:27when I died
53:30if you come around
53:31to my sea
53:32and start crying
53:33if the lord
53:34allow me
53:35take off my shoe
53:36and throws it in your face
53:57man has ability
54:00and can
54:02certainly
54:03can
54:05to transform
54:05humanity
54:06it's the only thing
54:08what can he do
54:10it's better
54:11of a doctor
54:17of a man
54:40of a man
54:42of a man
54:53Thank you all.
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