00:00I'm not going to make the transition from that to the Hawks game,
00:03although there is one, but I'm not going to make it.
00:06The Hawks lost by 50 last night.
00:0850.
00:0951, actually.
00:10They were down by 60 at one point in the game,
00:12and their season is now over, and boy is it.
00:15I'm so glad they don't have to play another game after that.
00:18Dude.
00:18Can you imagine if you had to play one more?
00:20If that had happened in game five,
00:21and you had to play another one after you lost by 50?
00:24When the Huskies went 0-12 my senior year of college,
00:28they lost the Apple Cup.
00:30But it was the 11th game.
00:31They had to play one more game after that,
00:33after they blew a game to the Cougars,
00:35which everybody knew they were going to lose.
00:37Thankfully and mercifully, it came to an end last night.
00:40And, you know, no one thought it was going to end like that.
00:44No one thought you were going to lose game five by 30.
00:45No one thought you were going to lose game six by 50.
00:47No one's ever lost a playoff game by that many points.
00:51But losing to the Knicks in six is not a huge surprise.
00:53No, it's not.
00:55And I think, you know, you called the six.
00:56I said Hawks in seven.
00:58It's not even about – it's about how you lost.
01:00And I'm talking about you got pummeled, pummeled, like embarrassed.
01:06Like that was an embarrassing loss.
01:08This is my reply to our thing.
01:10That wasn't disastrous.
01:11Then what the hell was it?
01:12That wasn't disastrous?
01:12It was a disaster.
01:14It should be eye-opening.
01:15Oh, okay.
01:16It could be both.
01:16It's both of them.
01:17I think it's both.
01:17Yeah, it's a disaster that your eyes were still open
01:20getting a break beat out of you like that.
01:22Their eyes were not open by the end of the game, by the way.
01:23So just go kick rocks, dork.
01:27Yeah, I mean, however you want to describe it is fine.
01:30You're an NBA team.
01:31You're not supposed to get the hell beat out of you in a playoff game.
01:34It was a disaster.
01:36Yeah, it was.
01:36It was.
01:37Now, it should also be eye-opening as you sort of spin it forward.
01:41How was a game four or five eye-opening?
01:43They should be eye-opening as well.
01:44The entire series should be eye-opening.
01:47But, again, I think there's more than just you got beat by a better team.
01:51I think as the series went on, there's some quit that comes in.
01:55And that's a problem because that filters.
01:57I mean, in the opening segment, you're talking about how you wouldn't be surprised
02:01if a wrestler at least thought last night about more than just the roster,
02:05right, about the coaching staff.
02:06We don't have that conversation if they lose to the Knicks in six
02:10and lose by, like, four points.
02:11You have that conversation, an eye-opening conversation,
02:14if you get your ass kicked like that.
02:16Do you really think that they didn't know what they need if they got beat by Tim?
02:19No, I don't think it's just that they don't know what they need.
02:22I think it's also because they look at everything.
02:30They go off and move on.
02:32It's a little bit.
02:34And I'm going to see people that are on Twitter
02:38and some of the people on this radio station and even us.
02:40It's like they're going to have to be a little bit more.
02:44Because the thing about it is.
02:46You can't just trade and.
02:48Ask for anybody to get their job taken.
02:50I said this earlier, and I do believe that Tony Rester, he had to think about it.
02:54There's no way being who you are as the owner of the team
02:57and watching your team get the crap beat out of it in a playoff game,
03:00there's no way you can't just think about it.
03:02I'm not saying it's going to happen or anything,
03:04but I think when you look at Asa,
03:06who was the second in the executive of the year voting and everything,
03:09he's got a big offseason.
03:11You know what I mean?
03:12It's a big offseason for him because of what you have.
03:14And what you have is something that they,
03:16well, I can't say that because he's had the number one pick two years ago.
03:18But you know what I'm saying?
03:19That's different.
03:19But that's different.
03:20But you have to make a decision on him.
03:22You've got to make a decision on CJ.
03:24What was that thing I saw today?
03:27CJ McCollum expected offers between two years, $35 to $40 million.
03:32That's the whole contract.
03:33Yeah, that makes sense.
03:34But I was thinking all the different sort of tangents from this series.
03:38I was just thinking about if I'm him, what do I want?
03:41He talks about liking it here and all that, which is great.
03:44I just wonder.
03:45He's 34.
03:46He'd be 35 before the season starts next year.
03:48Made a lot of money.
03:49Had some really good seasons.
03:51I've always thought, and I've said this from when he was like year three,
03:56and I said it when he came here,
03:57and he's always been in situations where he's been starting.
04:00I've always thought he was perfectly fit to be a sixth man.
04:03He's a perfect sixth man.
04:04Come off the bench.
04:05He can get red hot, but he's not going to defend anybody.
04:07He doesn't really create for anybody else.
04:10Yeah, but whatever.
04:11He's the only reason they won two games in this series.
04:13100%.
04:14I'm not taking any shots at CJ.
04:16100%.
04:16Because if it wasn't for him, they would have got swept out of this thing.
04:19I just wonder what he wants.
04:20Does he want to try to get a championship before it's all over?
04:23Does he want to try to get as much money as possible?
04:25Does he really like it as much here as he's saying?
04:28You say what you say when you're in a place.
04:31But if it's two years maybe with a third-year option, team option,
04:34and you can get a $60 million contract, 20 per, that's pretty reasonable.
04:39But I can't come back next year and have CJ McCollum as one of my starting guards.
04:44Exactly.
04:45You have to upgrade that position.
04:47You have to upgrade that.
04:48You have to upgrade your center position,
04:49even if that means maybe you have to put Okongwu in something to get something.
04:53I love him.
04:54Yeah.
04:54But he can't be your starting center.
04:56I also have said this many times.
04:58I think Anyeka Okongwu is obviously a very good player.
05:01He had a really nice year this year.
05:03He's in like a top-level backup center.
05:06Yeah.
05:06If he's your first center off the bench, that's fantastic.
05:10But, you know, what does the four have to look like around?
05:13And that's always my thought is like, all right, if this guy, you're thinking of this guy as a starter
05:17on what I hope they're trying to build into a contender,
05:22what do the four around him have to look like?
05:24And the four that have to play with Anyeka are so hard to build that, just like it was with
05:30Trey.
05:30Like, you have to get really creative and sort of fill in different holes.
05:34Same thing with CJ.
05:36Like, those guys are great players to have on teams.
05:38They have roles for sure.
05:39But those are the two spots that you have to upgrade, obviously.
05:42All right.
05:42So, according to this right here, projected salary, they're at $164 million.
05:48Luxury tax is at $201.
05:50First apron is at $209.
05:51Includes first rounds and bonuses.
05:53We're talking about the free agents.
05:55I mean, you've got Kaminga.
05:56You've got to make decisions on that, right?
05:58You talked about CJ.
05:59Guys that are going to be here.
06:01You've got Nall, Dyson Daniels, Jalen Johnson.
06:04O'Connor was under contract.
06:05A great contract.
06:06And I'm talking about NBC.
06:07He makes $15 million a year.
06:09That's why I can't trade Anyeka O'Connor.
06:11Like, I can put somebody in front of him.
06:14But that's what I'm saying.
06:14Now, I'll put up some of the potential bigs.
06:17We've got Hartenstein.
06:19Great.
06:19Joe Casey.
06:19Great.
06:20And you've got Duren.
06:21Exactly what they need.
06:22And you've got Duren.
06:23Yeah, but he's not going anywhere.
06:24They're not going to let him leave Detroit.
06:26And who knows?
06:27Like, there might be a trade that's available as the offseason sort of unfolds.
06:30Like, some of these other teams are going to lose in the first round.
06:32That didn't expect to lose in the first round.
06:34And they're going to have to make some tough choices.
06:36Like, Denver's going to have to make some tough choices about their roster.
06:38I think you can maybe be a beneficiary of one of these other teams that maybe sees their window closing.
06:45Or maybe they had a higher opinion of what they could do than what they did.
06:50There's just so many variables about the offseason.
06:53Because only the Hawks offseason started last night.
06:55A lot of other teams are still playing that might have players that you want.
06:58But the most important piece right now is a huge unknown.
07:04And we're all going to be glued to our TVs on lottery night.
07:07Because that ping pong ball could be the most important thing in this franchise.
07:11If it's the number one pick or number two pick or number three pick, that guy might be better than
07:15Jalen Johnson in two or three years.
07:16Which would be great.
07:17It would be great.
07:18If Jalen ends up being your second best player in two or three years, fantastic.
07:21Yeah.
07:21Now it could also be the ninth pick.
07:22And it's not, you know, it's not that big of a deal.
07:24Yeah, it was like, what do the Hawks, the Hawks obviously need a good player.
07:28We understand it.
07:29They need a playmaking guard.
07:31We understand that.
07:33And they need a big that is an enforcer.
07:37And I'm not talking about ready to fight nobody or something like that.
07:39You need an anchor.
07:39It's physical.
07:40You need an anchor.
07:41Rim protector, physical.
07:43Yeah, you need that guy.
07:44And so, I mean, can you get that all in this draft?
07:46Yeah, but like I said, it all depends on where that ping pong ball is.
07:49Yeah, you can't get both of those guys, though, with that one pick.
07:52And, you know, you might – the other thing about that pick, too,
07:55is depends on where it falls, you could also trade it.
07:59Like, if it's like, you know, wherever it is, that's a really valuable asset.
08:02And if you decide you want to package that with like, you know,
08:06you sell a team on Risa Shea's upside, you pick up a Kong Wu's team option
08:10and trade him – not a Kong Wu, sorry, Kaminga's team option and trade him
08:15to make the money work and all that.
08:16I just – there's a lot of different things that that pick could do.
08:20But right now, that's the most important thing in this franchise
08:24is that ping pong ball.
08:25And we've got to hope it bounces the right way.
08:28Because if it's number one, like, then you don't – you know,
08:32that solves one of your problems.
08:34It does.
08:34But you have to find those two things this year.
08:40In order for you to get to where you want,
08:42you've got to find a playmaking guard in a damn center.
08:46You've got to find some.
08:47You've got to have that.
08:48And then you've got to move guys back to their original.
08:51You've got to put Nall as a six man.
08:53You know what I'm saying?
08:54You've got to – yeah.
08:56Yeah, right.
08:56You have to get better.
08:58You have to get better.
08:59You've got to get deeper.
09:00You've got to get tougher.
09:01And I think this series made all that pretty clear, right?
09:05Yep.
09:05I hope it did.
09:06I hope so.
09:06Made it clear to me.
09:08I think we knew a lot of that stuff coming into it, too.
09:10Yeah, before the series, we even knew that, though.
09:11Yeah, it was really, really on display,
09:13especially the last three –
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