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00:11Hello there and welcome to The One Show, live on BBC One, and I play it with Vernon Kaye.
00:16And of course, Alex Jones.
00:17Tonight we're joined by some comedy favourites in the shape of Chris McCausland and Rabsey Nesbitt himself, Gregor Fisher.
00:23Plus, Matt's here with Watchdog, and he's putting two big companies under the spotlight.
00:28Yes, we've heard from viewers who thought they'd bought second-hand vans on eBay from what appeared to be legitimate
00:34sellers,
00:34only to realise they'd been scammed out of thousands of pounds when they tried to pick up those vehicles.
00:40Plus, Amazon Kindles.
00:42If you're one of the two million users of older Kindle devices that will no longer be supported,
00:47I've got some important advice that you will not want to miss.
00:51Oh, we'll catch up with you very shortly, Matt.
00:53Also tonight, as we mentioned, we'll be joined by comedian and Strictly winner Chris McCausland,
00:58who is swapping Sander for the saloon as he steps into the Wild West for a murder mystery.
01:04He'll be telling us how his experience on the comedy circuit has prepared him for this cowboy-themed whodunit.
01:08Let's think Miss Marpin meets John Wayne.
01:11Got it in one.
01:12And sticking with comedy, Rabsey Nesbitt and Love Actually star Gregor Fisher is back on our screens with the brilliant
01:19BBC series Only Child.
01:20Yeah, he'll be telling us about reuniting with his TV son Greg McHugh for more chaos in a show that's
01:25been described as
01:26gentle, heartfelt, laugh out loud, but most importantly of all, funny.
01:31It's brilliant, isn't it?
01:32It's funny.
01:33And it's funny.
01:34And talking of fathers and sons, later on we'll see how Mike Dilgenis and Zachary are doing their bit for
01:40local wildlife
01:41by helping to raise a rare species of grasshopper in their family home.
01:45It's lovely, isn't it?
01:46Yeah, very good indeed.
01:47All that to look forward to, of course.
01:49But first, we're starting with Matt and eBay.
01:52Yes, buying a vehicle can be really expensive and there are so many things to consider.
01:57So when you turn to a reliable selling platform like eBay, you don't expect to be scammed.
02:04But that's exactly what's been happening to some customers.
02:09If you're looking to buy a new set of wheels, you might be tempted to look online with hundreds of
02:15thousands of vehicles at your fingertips.
02:47And I spoke to the guy, he was very, very plausible.
02:50The seller claimed to work for AT Flooring in Kent.
02:54He told Gareth that other people were interested in the van and instructed him to bank transfer two and a
03:00half thousand pounds to secure it.
03:02Before doing so, Gareth did some research.
03:05I went on to the company's address he asked me to go to Married Up.
03:08It matched the address on eBay.
03:10I thought I was pretty safe on this one.
03:13Deposits sent later that week, Gareth travelled on his motorbike almost 300 miles to collect his van from the flooring
03:21company.
03:22But he was in for a shock when he arrived.
03:25It was raining, it was miserable, it was foggy, it was a bad day by all accounts.
03:31And I said, well, I've come to buy the van.
03:33And they said, well, we're not selling the van.
03:34And then you just realise I've just been done.
03:37What's going through your mind?
03:39I've never been in that position before.
03:43And it's a horrible feeling.
03:44Two and a half grand is painful to lose.
03:47eBay say never pay outside of our payment system.
03:50It was a classified ad on eBay.
03:52So there is no means by which you can pay through the eBay channels.
03:57eBay allows this for items like vehicles.
04:00But it means that people like Gareth aren't covered by its money-back guarantee if things go wrong.
04:06Wanting to stop others from being scammed, he immediately reported the listing to eBay.
04:10But he was told it hadn't broken its rules.
04:14And eBay refused to remove it.
04:16What did you feel when you saw eBay's response?
04:19I was frustrated and let down as well.
04:22Gareth managed to get most of his money back from his bank.
04:25But he's disappointed that eBay didn't do more.
04:29Adam works for AT Flooring, the company in Kent that Gareth thought he was buying the van from.
04:34The first he knew of the listing was after Gareth came to collect the van.
04:39Were you selling a van at the time?
04:41We've only got three vans.
04:42None of them was for sale.
04:43No, we haven't ever sold a van.
04:45Adam also reported the listing to eBay.
04:48But again, the company refused to remove it.
04:51They didn't feel the post violated their terms, which I thought was crazy, really.
04:57The seller is not who they're saying they are.
04:59And it was just sitting there for other people to potentially get scammed.
05:04Whoever was behind the listing eventually decided to take it down.
05:08But over a month later, we spotted the same van that Gareth had thought he'd bought being listed on eBay,
05:16this time under a different company name.
05:18Now, Milhouse Carpets in Cornwall found itself at the centre of the scam.
05:23Rob Davies is the company director.
05:25There was a Mercedes van and a Volkswagen van, both listed with the business name.
05:32And just to be clear, you weren't selling vans at the time?
05:35No, no, we don't sell vans.
05:37We sell flooring.
05:38But when Rob reported the listing, eBay refused to remove it, saying it didn't violate its policy.
05:44The flooring company even had someone turn up to collect the van.
05:49One chap got on a train from the Midlands, got to Penzance train station, and he had paid in full.
05:55There's not much you can say to somebody in that situation to make them feel better.
05:59No, he's probably feeling physically sick.
06:01Interestingly, when Rob, Gareth and Adam reported the listings, eBay said that the decision not to remove them was made
06:08using AI,
06:09which doesn't appear to have been particularly effective in these cases.
06:14We wrote to eBay, outlining our allegations, and asked why the listings reported by Gareth, Adam and Rob weren't immediately
06:22removed.
06:23The company declined to comment.
06:25eBay, there will always be scammers, but when they strike, we need you to step in and act as quickly
06:32as possible
06:33to protect your customers and innocent business owners.
06:39Has eBay started this home, Mark?
06:40No, it hasn't.
06:41Just today, look, we've seen this listing for the van come up again,
06:44this time posing as another legitimate company, Falmouth Flooring, which has told us it's definitely not selling a van.
06:52So please, everybody, be aware.
06:54And remember, if you think you've been scammed and you've paid through the site, then report it to eBay.
07:00If, like Gareth, you paid outside of the platform, contact eBay and your bank or credit card provider straight away.
07:08Well, you've got a story involving another big company now.
07:11Yeah, I have.
07:12The summer's approaching.
07:13Loads of people are going to be thinking, which new book can I enjoy?
07:16But that's going to be a problem if your Amazon Kindle is from 2012 or earlier.
07:21We've heard from viewers who have received this email from Amazon telling them it will be discontinuing support for its
07:29older Kindles.
07:30And that essentially means they won't be able to download any new books on them or access things like security
07:36updates or tech support.
07:38Those affected have been offered 20% off new Kindles, along with a £15 e-book credit, which they have
07:45one month to use.
07:47Now, Alice from Cheshire doesn't want to buy a new device, does she, Alex?
07:51She does not.
07:53Alice got her Kindle in 2011 and has been happily using it for the past 15 years.
07:58Alice says she's frustrated that despite still being able to access her whole library, she won't be able to buy
08:04any new books and feel she's left with no choice but to get rid of the device.
08:08Let's see what Alice herself has to say.
08:11When I first read the email, I was really surprised because my Kindle works perfectly.
08:17It's not like a piece of tech where you're like, oh, the battery is dying or my screen isn't working
08:23or something like that.
08:24It works perfectly.
08:25So there's no reason for me to stop using it.
08:29And you know what?
08:29Liz from Cumbria thought hers was for life too.
08:32Isn't that right, then?
08:33Yeah, you're right, Matt.
08:34Liz's husband, Paul, bought a Kindle in 2012 and loved it so much.
08:38She got one for Liz.
08:39She got one for Liz.
08:41They both still use them today.
08:42Liz says she was devastated about her Kindle and she won't be buying a new one.
08:46Why is this happening, Matt?
08:47Amazon told us that these models have been supported for at least 14 years, but technology has come a long
08:53way in that time.
08:54It said it strives to provide security updates for its devices for as long as possible and that accounts and
09:01libraries will remain fully accessible on older devices.
09:04However, they may stop receiving those updates due to hardware or software constraints or when suppliers no longer support certain
09:13components.
09:14Are there any rules, Matt, concerning this situation with tech and upgrades and all that kind of stuff?
09:19It's a timely question because there are now.
09:22Since 2024, by law, manufacturers must state the minimum length of a time for which a device will receive security
09:30updates.
09:30Amazon has said it's willing to commit to a minimum of four years for new Kindles.
09:36And that's really important to know if you are considering buying a new one.
09:40But the question is, what's going to happen to all the old Kindles?
09:44Because it's not great for the planet, really, is it?
09:46It's a really good point.
09:47And it's one that Alice and Liz have asked as well.
09:49Two million devices are affected and that potentially is going to generate over 620 tonnes of e-waste.
09:56That initial email that you saw to customers didn't explain what to do with your old Kindle.
10:02Amazon has now told us it has a recycling programme.
10:06Material Focus is one of the organisations involved and you can find its sites by using its recycling locator tool.
10:13We've put a link on our website as well.
10:15Now, as always, if you've spotted anything, tech or otherwise, that doesn't read right or spells trouble, email watchdog at
10:23bbc.co.uk or tag us at bbcwatchdog on socials.
10:28Fantastic work.
10:29Thank you very much, Matt.
10:31OK, still to come, Gregor Fisher will be telling us about reuniting with his only child co-star 16 years
10:37after they first met filming Rab C.
10:40And in just a moment, Chris McCausland will be revealing all about stepping out of his comfort zone and into
10:45the wild, wild west.
10:47But first, here's a reminder of why Chris is one of the country's best-loved stand-ups.
10:52You go back in time to the mid-80s and you tell somebody that you are from the future and
10:56you can prove it and their mind will be blown.
10:59They'll be like, oh my God, that's amazing.
11:01You're from the future?
11:02Tell me everything.
11:03I want to know everything.
11:04What's it like 35 years from now in the future?
11:07Is there anything that you have to do in the future that we don't have to do now?
11:12Uh, yeah, yeah, you have to prove you're not a robot.
11:16You have to what?
11:19That's incredible.
11:20How do you prove you're not a robot in the future?
11:22Do you have to peel back the skin to prove that you're not mechanical underneath?
11:26Oh, no, you just have to look at some photographs.
11:29World-sized traffic lights, that sort of thing.
11:33Oh, and here he is now, his comedian Chris McCollsland and actor Gregor Fisher.
11:41Fellas, welcome to the sofa.
11:43It really is a joy to have you with us.
11:46Chris, first of all, you're actually a huge fan of Venice.
11:48I can't believe I'm sat on the couch of them.
11:50You know, last time I was here, it was Minnie Driver.
11:52This time it's Rab.
11:53Rab, see this bit.
11:56Minnie Driver.
11:57Oh, yeah.
11:58You'd be a big excited about that.
11:59I'd be excited about Minnie Driver.
12:01I'd be, I'd be excited about Rab, she'd Nesbitt.
12:04Are you excited about Minnie Driver?
12:06Do you know what?
12:07A very, she was lovely as well, so you've got, you know, you've got a lot to live up to,
12:10Rab.
12:10All right, well, I'll try, I'll try.
12:13Minnie Driver was lovely, to be fair, wasn't she?
12:16But we are delighted to have you with us, Gregor.
12:19Now we're going to talk about Only Child very shortly.
12:21Right.
12:21But first, Chris, we saw you there, live at the Apollo in that clip, but you've got a big gig
12:27coming up at the London Palladium really soon.
12:30How are you feeling about that one then?
12:31Yeah, good.
12:32I mean, it's the end of the tour.
12:33The tour's been a long tour, so it's just kind of approaching the end now.
12:36And the Palladium have really let their standards kind of lower in the recent years, so, you know, you get
12:42people like myself playing there now.
12:44And so it's, I'm looking forward to it.
12:46Yeah, it's, to get to play these venues, these, you know, there's two types of venues that I really love
12:52playing.
12:53And they're the really traditional kind of entertainment, you know, venues and theatres.
12:57And the Palladium, you don't get bigger, really.
13:00And then the others are kind of music venues where I've seen bands, you know, like the Shepherds Bush Empire,
13:06where I've been to see loads of bands over the years.
13:09So, I just, it's such a joy and a privilege to get to play these places, you know.
13:13You mentioned the tour.
13:14Since winning Strictly, you've done 360 dates, Chris.
13:18Wow.
13:19A, you must be shattered, and B, you must have some great stories to tell.
13:24Shattered is not the one, does it?
13:26There's a lot of people out there, they saw me on a dance floor and they thought,
13:28I wonder what that fella's like sat on a stool.
13:32So, yeah, the tickets were selling, you know, so we added more and more dates.
13:35But it's been, you know, such a joy to get out there and Strictly stretches the demographic, you know.
13:42It's not just people who see you on Have I Got News For You and Would I Lie To You?
13:46It's, you know, all generations and families coming along.
13:49Yeah, massive shore, Strictly.
13:51Absolutely.
13:51It does, it touches everyone, doesn't it?
13:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:53Yeah, it really does.
13:53Sounds terrifying.
13:55360.
13:58I can't imagine that, you know, that's a, many days in a year, three, that's a year, isn't it?
14:03Yeah, yeah, but I did it over two and a half.
14:07And the thing is, Gregor, you are going back to the Edinburgh Fringe for the first time in 40 years,
14:12is it?
14:13Yes, well, actually, I worked out 50 years.
14:16Yeah, I'm that old, believe it or not.
14:18You never know.
14:19Yeah, in my 20s, in my 20s, I was there, yeah.
14:22Why am I doing it?
14:23I think I'm doing it because I did a wee bit of touring this year and I forgot what it
14:27was like for real people being there, you know, not to some camera point that year, like a gun.
14:33It was, it was quite thrilling and quite exciting and I was amazed that some people turned up and that
14:40was, that was even more exciting.
14:42Oh, believe yourself.
14:43No, it's true.
14:44Come on.
14:44You do a bit, don't you?
14:45You must feel like that.
14:46You think, oh, is there anybody in tonight?
14:48You have such anxiety over numbers sometimes.
14:51You do, don't you?
14:51You know, especially at the Edinburgh Fringe where there's so much competition.
14:54Yeah.
14:54You found enough during the day, how many have I sold?
14:56Yeah, exactly.
14:58So I'm doing 16, I'm doing 16 shows at the Fringe.
15:01Oh, fantastic.
15:02It's not for the money, let me tell you, Vernon.
15:05It's not for the cash.
15:06Well, Chris has just had a new wing built after his three months.
15:09I'll bet it is.
15:10Yes.
15:10Crikey.
15:11Well, Chris is stepping out of his comfort zone to take on the role of Sheriff in the murder mystery
15:17Whodunny Unrehearsed.
15:19It stars a new celebrity every night who is tasked with solving a murder with the help of their castmates
15:25and, of course, the audience.
15:27Yeah.
15:27I mean, it's a charity show.
15:31So it runs, I think, 64 shows at the Park Theatre in Finsbury Park.
15:36And it's to raise money for all of the wonderful work they do with vulnerable adults and kids and underprivileged
15:42kids.
15:43And it's the only way they kind of make their money to support the work they do.
15:47And every show is a different kind of guest sheriff.
15:51And it's Benedict Cumberbatch is doing one.
15:53Gillian Anderson's doing one.
15:55Wow.
15:55And I doubt they're out there telling everyone that they're doing a show that Chris McCausland's doing.
16:00But, you know, I'm...
16:00I bet you they are.
16:02I bet you they are.
16:04Serene McKellen does the narration for it.
16:06That's right, yeah.
16:06But he's also doing one of the shows this year.
16:08But I think technically this means that on my CV I can say that I have done theatre with Serene
16:14McKellen.
16:15But it's a tricky one, though, isn't it, Chris?
16:17Because you turn up, you don't necessarily get to rehearse.
16:20You meet the cast.
16:21Yeah.
16:21They talk you through the movements on the stage.
16:24But you don't get the script.
16:25Is that right?
16:26No, so they've all rehearsed.
16:27But we don't know what we've got coming up, you know.
16:30So you don't know the script.
16:31You have an earpiece in.
16:32And you get fed the lines as it's happening around you.
16:35Oh, that's so good.
16:36So you turn up an hour before the show and, yeah, you don't know what's going on.
16:41You don't know whether there's a song, a dance, or, you know, what the lines are going to be, what
16:46the story is at all.
16:47So it's completely unrehearsed for the, you know, the guest sheriff every night.
16:51Have you had lines fed into your ear before?
16:54Well, you know, I'm always used to do...
16:56I mean, when you're doing telly, if you're ever hosting anything on the telly, you have an earpiece, don't you?
17:01So usually, you know, as you know, when you're doing something like this, usually telly, you have to worry up
17:05and get a move on it.
17:05Oh, there's a lot of chats on the long shore.
17:07Yeah.
17:08I'm telling you right now, Chris, we're 40 seconds order.
17:11All right?
17:12It's as simple as that.
17:13So, but no, I mean, it's a brilliant cause.
17:15And some of the names, you know, Harry Hill, Julian Clary's doing it, Emma Thompson, you know.
17:21So to just be in that mix and be a part of it is, you know, it's exciting.
17:27And it's going to be a good cause as well.
17:29It sounds like a real adrenaline rush.
17:32Sounds fun, doesn't it?
17:32Who Done It Unrehearsed 4 will be at London's Park Theatre from 9th of May.
17:37And Chris will be on tour again until the 18th of May.
17:41Another wing.
17:42Your lucky bill must be massive.
17:45Still to come, Gregor will be telling us all about filming the new series of his hilarious father and son
17:51comedy.
17:51But first, we're off to Norfolk, where real-life father and son Mike and Zachary Dilger are learning how they
17:56can help a rare British species from the comfort of their own home.
18:01This is the Large Marsh Grasshopper.
18:04As the name suggests, it's the UK's largest and one of our rarest grasshoppers.
18:11Unfortunately, his colourful creatures are under threat from habitat loss.
18:15But a rewilding project hopes to change that.
18:18And we've wanted to help.
18:19But we certainly have.
18:21Dr Stuart Green is the grasshopper expert at Citizen's Zoo, an organisation dedicated to restoring habitats and rewilding Britain.
18:31Stuart, we've actually seen me and Zachary the Large Marsh Grasshopper once.
18:36Why is it so rare?
18:38Mainly because it likes marshy conditions.
18:41Over the last 50 years, say, there's been a lot of drainage of the land and marshy places have become
18:47fewer and smaller in size.
18:49How are you helping the Large Marsh Grasshopper?
18:52We're very much into getting the general public involved in conservation work, rearing the grasshoppers at home,
18:59and then releasing them into places where it used to live, made wetter.
19:04Alongside 16 volunteers, we've signed up to rear 150 grasshoppers from tiny eggs to adults.
19:12They'll be released into a rewilded area of Norfolk.
19:15But first, we need to know how to look after them.
19:19I'm going to give you some grasshopper eggs and the grasshopper cage,
19:23and you're going to set them up in there in some moist sand.
19:26It takes about three to four weeks from a tiny hatchling to an adult.
19:32I'm going to give you enough eggs to produce 150, but not all the eggs hatch.
19:37I'm hoping you can raise 50.
19:40Are there any particular don'ts that we should know about?
19:43Occasionally, the grasshopper will jump onto your arm or something like that.
19:47Do not panic.
19:48Stuart has a special device for capturing any escapees.
19:53So this is a pooter.
19:54Basically, you point the tip at the head of the grasshopper,
19:57suck on this end, and the grasshopper will fly up into the main chamber.
20:03Very good. Perfect.
20:06Great.
20:09Armed with our grasshopper eggs and their new enclosure,
20:12we head home to settle them in.
20:15We'll need to give them fresh coxfoot grass every day
20:18and make sure the temperature stays around 29 degrees.
20:22And after four days, the eggs start to hatch.
20:26They are so busy and active, aren't they?
20:29Yeah.
20:30I can't believe I've got 150 new pets.
20:32I know.
20:33You're going to do a great job.
20:34With our grasshoppers becoming more active,
20:37we give Stuart an update on how we're getting on.
20:40We have some very good news, Stuart.
20:42Lots of baby grasshoppers.
20:45Excellent.
20:46Excellent.
20:46And then for the next three weeks,
20:48they'll hardly ever stop eating.
20:50Is there anything we need to kind of be wary of or look out for?
20:53So long as they get their fresh grass,
20:55usually they'll be OK.
20:56We are so enjoying being grasshopper guardians.
20:59It's great fun.
21:00It's been amazing.
21:03Over the next few weeks,
21:04our grasshopper nymphs molt several times
21:07before emerging as winged adults.
21:11They have grown loads.
21:12They're massive now.
21:14We're seeing some brilliant behaviour
21:16where they flick their leg onto their back wing,
21:19making a tick, tick, tick sound.
21:22Only the male grasshoppers make this sound,
21:24and it's done to impress the females.
21:28Now fully grown, they're ready for release.
21:31Hi, Stuart. We've got a gift for you.
21:33All right.
21:34So how's it been?
21:35It's been brilliant.
21:36Just kind of hearing them bounce around like popcorn
21:38when you're watching TV at night.
21:41They do that, yeah.
21:42We think we have some egg pods as well.
21:45Fantastic.
21:46And unfortunately, we can't join you in Norfolk
21:48because one of us had an accident,
21:51but we're really grateful that you can release that.
21:53No, not a problem.
21:54I'll go there and do it in your name.
21:57After a magical four weeks,
21:59our time as grasshopper guardians is over.
22:03It's been brilliant.
22:05What an absolute pleasure.
22:07The next day, Stuart and his team
22:10released 110 healthy hoppers
22:12in a rewilded area in Norfolk,
22:14many of them raised by volunteers like us.
22:18And they plan to keep raising and releasing them
22:22until the large marsh grasshopper
22:24is once again thriving.
22:27Thanks, Mike and Zachary.
22:28Great work.
22:29Yeah, very much.
22:30Great work to do your bit for wildlife.
22:31Exactly.
22:32Well, same with families.
22:34Gregor here is back on our screens next week
22:36as one half of father and son duo,
22:38Ken and Richard,
22:39in the BBC comedy Only Child.
22:41Now, the show sees Ken's son
22:42back into the family home to look after him,
22:45which isn't always plain sailing.
22:46Before we chat more, let's have a look.
22:49Are you actually planning on getting dressed today?
22:52One sec, guys.
22:53My flatmate wants to ask me a question.
22:54Can I help you?
22:55I am not letting you waste another day
22:57playing this silly computer game
22:59with your sad little actor pals.
23:01We're not sad little actor pals.
23:03Although I'm a bit concerned about Terry.
23:05He's almost 60.
23:06Yeah, 62, actually.
23:08Headphones mute.
23:09Listen, just because Norway didn't work out
23:12doesn't mean you have to give up on life.
23:14I've not given up on life.
23:16I have.
23:17Oh, I can't go now.
23:22Well, Gregor, Nanette has been in touch.
23:25And Nanette says,
23:26thank you, Gregor, for bringing back Only Child,
23:29a truly funny show
23:30with two of our best comedy actors.
23:33That's nice, isn't it?
23:33That's nice.
23:34So let's set the scene then,
23:36because in the last series,
23:37we saw the son of your character move back in.
23:40Yes.
23:41And there was quite a lot of friction,
23:44some heartfelt moments as well in there.
23:46Where do we find them now, then, in this series?
23:48Well, it's kind of...
23:49There's a bit of role reversal now.
23:51He was looking after me,
23:53and I'm looking after him,
23:54because things haven't been going very well
23:56for Richard, the poor boy.
23:58He's not been acting very much.
24:00These theatricals, it's always the case.
24:02You're either in or you're out,
24:03and this is an out period for him.
24:05And he's not getting on well with his girlfriend.
24:09So I've taken to looking after him.
24:12And I've got a bit of romantic interest in my life.
24:18Oh, whoosh!
24:18Yes, indeed, I've got a girlfriend.
24:21And so,
24:24Ken's living his best life,
24:25and his wee boy isn't, really.
24:28And in this series,
24:29Ken has to re-sit his driving test
24:31at the tender age of 75.
24:32He does.
24:33Yeah, quite a tricky situation.
24:35How did he get himself into that?
24:36Well, the previous motor car
24:40ended up in the local public swimming pool.
24:44And he drove it in there
24:45because he got into a bit of a pickle
24:47and kind of collapsed.
24:48So nobody knew that until the end of the show.
24:51But consequently, he's been asked to...
24:55He's got to re-sit his driving test.
24:57Well, he would be asked to...
24:58Fair enough, yeah.
24:59Fair enough.
25:00Yeah, yeah.
25:00And you say that you're quite similar
25:03to your character, Ken.
25:04Maybe not the romance bit
25:06because, you know, you've got a lovely wife.
25:08Yeah.
25:08But how, then?
25:09How are you similar?
25:10Drove his car in the swimming pool.
25:11Yeah, yeah.
25:12Yeah, that's right, mate.
25:16Well, I didn't actually...
25:18I didn't realise I was similar
25:20until I started playing the character
25:21and people watched the show
25:22and said,
25:23That's you, Dad.
25:23You do that.
25:24I say, I don't do that.
25:25You do.
25:26You do do that.
25:27Like, I have an aversion with technology.
25:30I hate technology.
25:31I hate all that barcode stuff.
25:33Yes.
25:34I was in my hotel last night
25:35and I phoned up.
25:36I said, it's got a room service.
25:38I said, there's going to be my menu in the room.
25:39She said, you've got to scan the barcode.
25:41I said, I've no idea what you're talking about.
25:43The QR code, you scan that.
25:46And so I just didn't eat.
25:47Because I...
25:49Yes.
25:49I like it.
25:50I know.
25:51That's why I'm losing so much bloody weight.
25:52It's terrible.
25:54So I can't do that.
25:55So the character, Ken, has...
25:58You can't...
25:58You know, getting on and off trains,
26:00you get that thing, that bar...
26:01You know, the...
26:02What is it?
26:02The Q-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R
26:05-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C-R-A-C
26:06-R-A-C-R-A-C.
26:09And that's where you first worked with your core star, Greg,
26:12on Rabsy-Nabsy.
26:13Yes.
26:13That's where you met first, right?
26:15I did meet him there.
26:16I forgot all about him, but he intimated...
26:18There he's on the screen.
26:19Yeah.
26:20He's...
26:20There's you on the screen.
26:21Yes.
26:22Good-looking girly there.
26:24Yes.
26:25He was in that, and I'd forgotten he was in it,
26:27but he said...
26:30That's terrible.
26:31Look at that.
26:31Look at that.
26:32Absolutely awful.
26:34Yes.
26:35He said he was on that and got a bit nervous.
26:38I said,
26:38I don't remember you've been nervous.
26:40Were you nervous?
26:40Yeah, he said I was going to be a bit of a state.
26:42But I thought he was rather good.
26:44He's very good in this show,
26:45and he should be here tonight,
26:47and he's not because he's got a tummy bug,
26:49and this is a nice, green, clean sofa.
26:53Oh, God.
26:55You barred him from coming.
26:57Yes, but he is brilliant in it.
26:58By the safe and sorry.
26:59Yeah.
27:00He's very good.
27:00Well, Only Child will be on BBC One next Wednesday
27:03at 9.30pm,
27:05and viewers in Scotland get a real treat
27:06because you get to watch it a little bit sooner.
27:08Monday at 10.30pm on BBC Scotland,
27:10and obviously it's going to be on the iPlayer.
27:12Glad he didn't come, actually, to be honest with you.
27:14That's it for tonight.
27:15Thanks very much to Gregor and Chris, of course,
27:17and Matt with Watchdog.
27:19Roman and I will be back tomorrow,
27:20and we'll be joined by Spice Girl, Melanie C,
27:23and the stars of new thriller Prisoner,
27:24Eddie Marzen,
27:25Yuzika Hoyle,
27:26and Tahar Rahim.
27:27See you then.
27:28Have a brilliant evening.
27:29Bye-bye.
27:30APPLAUSE
27:30Bye-bye.
27:34Bye-bye.
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