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La invasión de Rusia a Ucrania y los bombardeos de Estados Unidos que, entre otros, le costaron la vida al ayatola Jamenei, tienen a Europa en la encrucijada. Mientras las potencias militares del mundo acuden a la fuerza y la coerción, la Unión Europea debate sobre el rumbo que debe tomar y sobre el tipo de poder que debe desplegar. El diputado alemán Rolf Mützenich, uno de los más influyentes líderes de la socialdemocracia europea reflexiona sobre el tema y plantea que el continente debe desarrollar una estrategia exterior que no se base en la amenaza de violencia militar o económica para imponer, sino en un equilibrio justo de intereses entre Estados pequeños y grandes. Entrevista con Élber Gutiérrez Roa.

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00:00What does it mean to do with violence?
00:10What does it mean to do with violence?
00:12But I think that it can only mean that it can only do it with violence,
00:18but it can only do it with violence.
00:21And it can only do it with violence.
00:30It can only do it with violence,
00:31but it can only do it with violence,
00:36but it can only do it with violence,
00:39but it can only do it with violence.
00:44And when it comes to this country,
00:50there is a way like this,
00:53that Europe, at the end of the Cold War,
00:59that Europe, at the end of the Cold War,
01:23is not a part of the world,
01:25it can only do it with violence,
01:30but it can only do it with violence.
01:37And if Europe in the future
01:41want to play a role in the world,
01:47then I am confident in the world,
01:51that Europe soft power should be made.
02:03That is the challenge.
02:05And that is the challenge.
02:07And possibly, we will be able to do it with violence.
02:14Because these forces are, of course,
02:19they have nuclear weapons.
02:21They have a great,
02:22and I will now say,
02:23Russia is actually just a military force,
02:25but still.
02:26Well, I want to leave Russia
02:28because it's more than a military force,
02:31but also economic,
02:32the USA,
02:34the United States,
02:36the United States,
02:36the United States,
02:37the United States,
02:39but also other countries like Indonesia,
02:43Brazil,
02:44South Africa,
02:45will be in the future
02:45under economic aspects
02:47and in the future
02:49will be in the future
02:51as well as economic aspects.
02:53And we remain
02:55the word,
02:57the speech,
03:00the discourse,
03:00the convince,
03:01but also a good example.
03:03But at the same time,
03:04to be a good example.
03:06And the other thing is
03:07the most important
03:09and the other thing,
03:10the most important
03:12reassurance
03:13is that countries like
03:15the United States
03:16and North America
03:17perhaps in the future
03:20in the future
03:22can orientate
03:24with greater power
03:26to the international rights
03:27and to the international rights
03:29and to the international rights
03:29and to the international interests
03:31become more democratic.
03:31and that they continue
03:34to remain democratic
03:36in their interior.
03:37The democracy
03:37is the most important
03:41of the self-control,
03:45of the self-control,
03:49of the self-control,
03:49in the inner,
03:51but also in the outer,
03:53especially in the outer,
03:56especially in the outer.
04:01And this transitoral space
04:05can take very long.
04:07that it is then Trump
04:09and that then
04:11will be
04:12that Trump
04:13will have
04:14that maybe
04:16the war
04:17to a
04:17possibly
04:19to a
04:20that
04:20is
04:23upset
04:30that
04:36that
04:37it can also
04:46force me
04:47to provide autonomously, and we forget that this war is being done within Europe,
04:54it could not be able to provide diplomaties to stop the war
05:00and also to provide that diplomaties also have helped to finish this war.
05:09We have supported the Ucrania military, financially, economically,
05:15and in Germany there were a certain time there were a million refugees,
05:26and that's why I spoke to myself for two years ago, that the fifth stand behind, stark to make,
05:33we had a fifth column that we had to be strong in that fifth column,
05:40and it is that every possibility of being part of the political development
05:47and that is not the same understanding as Trump.
05:55Trump has, with security, in Anchorage, with President Putin,
06:02who will be in Ukraine, who will be in Ukraine,
06:12and that is not my understanding.
06:15And that is not what I see, as a result, I accept it, nor I see it as a logic.
06:29If Trump would like to use the Ucrania military,
06:34if Trump would like to use the Ucrania military,
06:35would he do it?
06:36The Ucrania military is without doubt,
06:40because the Ucrania military is immediately in order,
06:45and the Ucrania and the Ucrania and the Ucrania would have no chance.
06:54And that is only theory, Grönland to defend the Ucrania.
07:01But that would be the worst case.
07:03But that would be the worst case.
07:05That would be the worst case.
07:07That's why I don't think it would come to that.
07:10Trump is an immobilism magnate.
07:14Trump is a magnate of the immobiles.
07:18Others say he is a mafia.
07:20Others say he is a mafia.
07:22The law of this person
07:24The act of this person,
07:26or this person,
07:28The price as high as possible
07:29The price is based on
07:31To have the maximum limit to the highest price,
07:37Then to threat
07:39And to look to what the enemy is ready to pay.
07:42And to look to the opposite
07:43For a price ready to pay.
07:51Trump really wants that Groenland a part of the United States will become a part of the United States, like
08:08Texas, Florida.
08:09But what he wants is to dominate the Arctic militarily, because the climate change will lead to the next decades
08:34as we live in the North-Ost passage.
08:37It will be a longer ice-free passage.
08:48And the trade-off will not only go through Asia, but also through a much shorter space.
09:01And these are these waters.
09:02On the other hand, Groenland is a important territory, if his idea of the Iron Dome wants to realize,
09:17they want to realize this idea, and it has to do with the defense against rockets in the space.
09:29For the military dominance of the United States, under the current technological conditions,
09:40today, it seems impossible.
09:45And why do I say it seems?
09:48Because there are serious voices that the Iron Dome can never be done.
09:52Because there are voices that have to take very seriously, that say that Iron Dome would never be able to
09:59be done.
09:59But if Iron Dome could contribute to the United States,
10:09to be less sensitive militarily to the United States of North America,
10:18from North Korea, from Russia, from Iran, from Russia, from Iran,
10:26maybe even through the Republic of China,
10:28but also through the Republic of China,
10:32he also needs it for this situation, Groenland.
10:34So, for this situation, it requires Groenland.
10:48Thank you very much.
10:49Thank you very much.
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