00:07In these political projects, when they are based on a charismatic figure,
00:11in this case, all that represents the marriage of Fernández de Kirchner,
00:15what will happen is that the second part,
00:19or those who want to emulate and continue with this project,
00:21will not have the same acceptation,
00:23because it is that the electorate identifies with the subject,
00:26with the charisma, not with the movement.
00:27I think here in Colombia we have already seen it.
00:35If there is something that maintains, like all this Latin American izquierda,
00:39Fernández de Kirchner, Evo Morales, Correa,
00:42the same project chavista in Venezuela,
00:44it is something that denounced Mujica in its time,
00:46perpetuating the power is the beginning of all the corruption,
00:49and that doesn't affect much,
00:50so Mujica was always the conscience of the left
00:53against this left that wants to maintain that power,
00:56and in that sense, this electoral strategy no is descabellada.
00:59It is to say, to put someone in intermedia
01:02to maintain, at least at the movement in the power,
01:05so that the people continue with the references
01:07about the kirchnerism,
01:09and then return to the original figures of the kirchnerism.
01:12What are the issues of these projects?
01:19The followers of these projects do not question the economic problem,
01:23but assume that there are economic problems because there are a bad opposition
01:27that they always try to conspiracy against them.
01:30Now, how do they think the kirchnerism should maintain this situation?
01:34A China's investment in a China's investment,
01:36appears again the salvage of all these projects,
01:39without needing to share ideological afinities.
01:41It's simply a topic of economic expansion of China.
01:50Yes, definitely yes.
01:52And it's just because the political and judicial sectors
01:56have to ask themselves where the officialism can reach
01:58in order to maintain a political project in power.
02:02So, even though we are not talking about a persecution
02:06that establishes the regime as a result,
02:08there are small shadows, small shadows
02:10that make these sectors move and also mobilize electoralmente.
02:18What is the first thing that one can observe a little closer to Brazil?
02:21You can ask, well, why Brazil,
02:23if in Brazil is Rousseff,
02:24but first, Rousseff is in crisis.
02:27So, he is in a political political sector
02:29who also want to say,
02:32hey, this project is not going to go,
02:33a Lula that fluctuates.
02:35But it's a Brazil that is very close to Argentina,
02:38it's a Brazil that understands that Argentina is there.
02:40And there is a Argentina that says,
02:41hey, Brazil, in any way, is an important economy,
02:43we have agreements with integration,
02:45and we manage some policies that are more of the state,
02:47no of the government.
02:48And the other is also closer to Chile,
02:51that is a center-left,
02:52but look, it's more like a European,
02:55that is more like a European,
02:55than a European populism,
02:56that is more like a Latin American populism.
02:58What is the same thing?
03:02It's a little bit like,
03:03if you are talking to the masses,
03:04talking to the masses,
03:06talking to the populist,
03:07there will not be much change,
03:08because they would be talking to
03:10what they used to be able to maintain power.
03:18With Macri,
03:19and if Colombia will take advantage
03:21of continuing to strengthen
03:22all the multilateralism
03:24that he wanted to do,
03:25especially the government of the President Santos.
03:27So,
03:27we can try to get closer to Argentina
03:29to restore relationships
03:31much closer,
03:32like at the time,
03:33the neoliberals of the 90s,
03:35Pastrana, Gaviria, Menem,
03:37that we were very aligned
03:39with almost all countries of Latin America.
03:46If you follow the kirchnerism,
03:48it will be exactly the same.
03:49We are the suspects of the always
03:51for the region,
03:52we are the point of the line,
03:53as he said,
03:53as he said,
03:54the head of the playa
03:56of an invasion of the OTAN
03:57for Latin America,
03:57we are the one.
03:59The spectator,
04:00information that generates opinion.
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