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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Anthony Anderson and John Lovett with the Kletos!
00:11And now, Jimmy Kimmel!
00:15Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:30Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:33Great time. I appreciate that.
00:38Thank you. Thank you for watching.
00:41Thank you for joining us.
00:44Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!
00:49Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!
00:53You know how sometimes you wake up in the morning
00:56and the First Lady puts out a statement demanding you be fired from your job?
01:02We've all been there, right?
01:04You've been there, right, Guillermo?
01:06Yeah, sure.
01:08What a day.
01:09As you know, they had to cancel the White House Correspondents' Dinner
01:12in Washington on Saturday night after a man with multiple guns and knives
01:18crashed the party and may have shot a Secret Service officer.
01:23Fortunately, the guy was wearing a bulletproof vest and is okay.
01:26They're not sure exactly what happened, but they got the guy.
01:29He was charged today. No one was hurt, thank goodness.
01:31A lot of people were shaken up on a night that is supposed to be lighthearted.
01:35The White House Correspondents' Dinner, if you don't know,
01:37it used to be an annual event before Trump showed up.
01:41But every year, they'd have a comedian roast the room.
01:43The president, the vice president, members of the press, everybody got roast.
01:46I did it once. I hosted it. It was a lot of fun.
01:48But this year, they said, no comedian. We're bringing in a mentalist instead.
01:52So on Thursday, three days before the event, in order to keep that cherished tradition alive,
01:59I did my own version of the Correspondents' Dinner on my show.
02:03I put on a tuxedo. We pretended we had an audience of luminaries.
02:08We used old footage of the Trumps, of Pete Hegseth, J.D. Vance, Kid Rock, Vanilla Ice,
02:14all the members of his cabinet, and we made it seem like they were all together in a room.
02:19We had a little roast. Again, this was Thursday, and there was no big reaction to it
02:23until this morning when I greeted the day facing yet another Twitter vomit storm.
02:29And a call to fire me from our first lady, Melania Trump, saying I should be fired
02:36because of a joke I made, again, five nights ago.
02:39It was a pretend roast. I said, our first lady, Melania, is here.
02:43Look at her so beautiful.
02:44Mrs. Trump, you'll have a glow like an expectant widow.
02:47Which obviously was a joke about their age difference
02:54and the look of joy we see on her face every time they're together.
02:58It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80
03:01and she's younger than I am. It was not, by any stretch of the definition, a call to assassination.
03:08And they know that. I've been very vocal for many years
03:11speaking out against gun violence in particular.
03:13But I understand that the first lady had a stressful experience over the weekend.
03:17And probably every weekend is pretty stressful in that house.
03:21And also, I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject.
03:26I do. And I think a great place to start, to dial that back,
03:29would be to have a conversation with your husband about it.
03:32Because, um...
03:34And by the way, I also should point out,
03:40Donald Trump isn't allowed to say whatever he wants to say,
03:43as are you and as am I, as are all of us.
03:46Because under the First Amendment, we have, as Americans, a right to free speech.
03:50But with that said...
03:54I am sorry that you and the President and everyone in that room on Saturday went through that.
03:59I really am. Just because no one got killed doesn't mean it wasn't traumatic and scary.
04:02And we should come together and be best. We really should.
04:06But if you want us to believe that a joke I made three days before this dinner
04:10had any effect on anything that happened,
04:13well, then maybe someone should look into this psychic lady, too.
04:17This speech tonight will be classic Donald J. Trump.
04:20It'll be funny. It'll be entertaining.
04:23There will be some shots fired tonight in the room.
04:28You know what?
04:31You know...
04:32You know who's gonna be furious when she hears that?
04:35White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt, who will be furious.
04:39This was like deja vu for me today, with all the news channels talking about this.
04:42Brian Stelter of CNN noted, incorrectly, I think, that no one from the White House
04:47was specifically calling from my head.
04:50This is this morning. I guess the First Lady doesn't count.
04:53But whatever the case, the President cleared that up pretty quickly.
04:56The administration's calling out Kimball, trying to pressure ABC.
04:59But they're being careful, I think, not to explicitly demand that ABC punish him.
05:05Despite the rhetoric that sometimes becomes very incendiary from the White House,
05:08and yes, is also incendiary from the left,
05:11these stress tests have been passed,
05:13and we've not seen demands for silencing be followed through by government censorship.
05:20Well, Brian, just as we were speaking,
05:22the President actually put out a note demanding that Jimmy Kimball be fired by ABC.
05:28Well, in that case, forget everything I just said.
05:32All right. You know, but I have to say, because this really is a shame,
05:40because there was a time not so long ago, back in 2010, when, believe it or not,
05:45we sent our man Yahya to a Samsung promotional event in New York,
05:49where we learned that Donald Trump was a very big fan of mine.
05:53Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you, sir? What are you doing here?
05:56Well, I'm here to support Samsung and their 3D plasma television.
06:00But I'm also here to support Jimmy, because I love Jimmy.
06:04Okay. You want to come here?
06:05Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Yahya. Nice to meet you.
06:09You want to be on my show?
06:10Well, you know what? I happen to love Jimmy. Let's do it. Come on.
06:14Well, no, no, no, it's...
06:17Sadly, his love for me went the way of the Samsung 3D plasma television.
06:22Anyway, what happened on Saturday at an event supporting the First Amendment, by the way,
06:28it was so crazy to watch. After the gunman was captured,
06:32there were so many well-known people in a room together,
06:35and there were cameras on everyone at all times.
06:37All the journalists, everybody grabbed their phones,
06:40immediately went into reporter mode. It was like a reverse Clark Kent.
06:43Like, he goes... But the dinner was filmed by more different iPhones
06:47from more different angles than the Torah portion of a bar mitzvah.
06:51This is video of the Secret Service moving Stephen Miller and his wife out of the room,
06:56followed by RFK Jr. getting whisked away while his wife, Cheryl Hines, is in the proverbial dust.
07:06That's right. He cut out of there like he saw a raccoon penis on the side of the road.
07:13But not everyone was in panic mode. While most of the attendees were taking cover,
07:18one guy who turns out to be Wolf Blitzer's agent.
07:21Watch him in the bottom left corner of your screen.
07:24And the journalists all in the house seated very quietly watching this.
07:29And remember, who was in the room? Secretary Pete Hegseth is in that room.
07:33You've got Scott Besant in that room. You have Tulsi Gabbard in that room.
07:38You, of course, have J.D. Vance in that room, naturally the President of the United States.
07:42And as John mentioned, the White House Correspondents' Dinner
07:46is where we are presently broadcasting from.
07:50I'm going to have a little bit of salad.
07:53That, by the way...
07:56That would be a great commercial for Hidden Valley Ranch.
08:00Get that agent an agent.
08:01And while salad was being scarfed, this woman was, um, I don't know,
08:05stocking up for the hotel room. I don't know what's happening there.
08:09I think Kash Patel just found a new assistant.
08:12Speaking of Kash Patel, you know, Kash Patel's the head of the FBI.
08:15But somehow he wound up outside afterwards, I don't know, calling his Uber driver,
08:20trying to get his mom to come pick him up.
08:22He seemed kind of lost. A lot of people were just lost.
08:26They didn't know what to do. For a while there, it was unclear as to whether the dinner would be
08:30canceled or not.
08:31People were just waiting around. Then, finally, the president of the White House Correspondents' Association
08:35took the stage to say, yes, the dinner is canceled and get to work.
08:40The president will be having a press briefing at the White House in 30 minutes.
08:49That is not a joke.
08:52The only thing that aren't jokes anymore are jokes, okay?
08:54It was very strange seeing all the news people who were at the event then reporting on the story in
09:01their tuxedos and ball gowns.
09:02It's like if a basketball player wore his jersey and shorts to dinner after the game.
09:07The president, one thing about Donald Trump, there's nothing he can't turn into a real estate opportunity.
09:12He immediately turned this into an argument in favor of his ballroom.
09:16He wrote, this event would never have happened with the militarily top-secret ballroom currently under construction at the White
09:23House.
09:24I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I'm afraid that top-secret ballroom is no longer top-secret,
09:30Mr. President.
09:32If it was, he'd be storing it in a shower at Mar-a-Lago.
09:38I have to admit something. I don't believe for one second that the reason he decided to build this ballroom
09:44is for security.
09:45But this was a pretty good argument for building. I might be pro-ballroom now, weirdly, after this.
09:51That way, if anything terrible ever happens, at least they can dance.
09:55Less than 24 hours after calling on Americans to resolve our differences and praising the warmth he shared with the
10:03press on Saturday night,
10:04Trump sat for an interview slash future $80 billion lawsuit with Nora O'Donnell of 60 Minutes,
10:09where he was asked about this manifesto his would-be attacker wrote.
10:13He also wrote this.
10:15I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
10:21What's your reaction to that?
10:22Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would, because you're horrible people.
10:27Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that.
10:30I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.
10:33Uh, I'm not a pedophile.
10:35Oh, do you think he was referring to you?
10:36Excuse me. Excuse me.
10:46General rule of thumb, you know an interview isn't going great when you have to say,
10:49I'm not a rapist and I'm not a pedophile.
10:52You should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things.
10:57Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.
10:58And I was never, excuse me, excuse me.
11:01You shouldn't be reading that on 60 Minutes.
11:03You're a disgrace.
11:04But go ahead, let's finish the interview.
11:06The other thing that he wrote in the end.
11:07You're disgraceful.
11:09I guess the honeymoon with the press didn't last.
11:11It was fun for 11 hours, but today the President and First Lady welcomed King Charles and Queen
11:17Camilla who arrived at the White House to, were what is scheduled to be a four day visit
11:21to the United States.
11:22Despite the obvious security concerns, the King decided to go ahead with the trip.
11:26He said he'd be damned if he lets anything stand in the way of him finally getting his hands
11:32on one of those Doritos Locos Tacos from Taco Bell.
11:36And we were very hospitable.
11:39We wanted to make sure the King's visit was fun.
11:41So we went out onto Hollywood Boulevard to get opinions from folks on the street
11:45about some things Charles did while he was here, even though he hadn't arrived yet.
11:50And we made all the things up for our special King Charles edition of Lie Witness News.
11:59So we've seen the clips, King Charles is in America right now.
12:03Yeah, yeah, I've seen some stuff.
12:05Oh yeah, that he's here on, there's something about like on Instagram that his wife is, what's
12:11it called, she's like some celebrity or something and he's coming over here to Hollywood.
12:15She's a Kardashian.
12:17Yeah, yeah.
12:17What did you think of the viral clip of King Charles cutting the line at Disneyland over the
12:22weekend?
12:22I think he needs to get to the back of the line.
12:24Everyone needs to wait in line at Disneyland.
12:27It doesn't matter who you are.
12:28It is not your right to cut the line at Disneyland, King Charles.
12:32There's only one king at Disneyland and that is Mickey Mouse.
12:34But what did you think when King Charles gave Donald Trump the first ever Buckingham Peace Prize?
12:41Boy, that was bullsh**.
12:43And when you saw the clip, was it something you said to the TV?
12:45Yeah, like what the f**k?
12:47I mean, how the f**k is this possible?
12:49This corrupt ass s**t, he's just an orange f**king clown.
12:52I have the right to say it no matter who is a fin.
12:55I'm not trying to offend you, I'm giving you my opinion.
12:58What did you think of the pictures of King Charles on Venice Beach shirtless?
13:02Did you think the king would have so many back tattoos?
13:05When I think of King Charles with the tattoos, I never thought he would even have a tattoo.
13:11I don't even have a tattoo myself.
13:13Here's one with meaning, it's Calvin peeing on the 13 original colonies.
13:17Is that cool for a king to have?
13:20No, that definitely is not cool to have that tattoo, especially a king of England.
13:26Yeah.
13:26It's, you know, it's very immature.
13:29The king of England is a a*****.
13:32He's stuck like a pimple waiting to be popped.
13:35Your opinions are so strong, I want to crown you the king of Hollywood Boulevard.
13:40My lord, well hold on a minute.
13:41We're gonna do the king, make sure the king doesn't do it for me.
13:45What would you, as king of Hollywood, like to say to the king of England?
13:49Get the f*** out this country, go home, learn you some motherf***ing manners.
13:54When you come into my house, you take your f***ing shoes off at my shoes.
14:00I'm not these monkeys that you're f***ing around with.
14:02I'm the gorilla that will snatch the light and put common sense in your a**.
14:11Thank you, your highness.
14:14All right, we got a good show tonight from Pod Save America.
14:17Jon Lovett is here.
14:18We'll be right back with Anthony Anderson.
14:27Hi there, welcome back to the show tonight.
14:30You know him from the funny and informative podcast, Love It or Leave It and Pod Save America.
14:36Jon Lovett is with us tonight.
14:37This week, we have good shows as we have good guests, including Goldie Hawn, Kiki Palmer, Desi Lydic from The
14:45Daily Show.
14:46The Deli Boys will join us.
14:48And the one, the only Meryl Streep will be here with music from Kevin Morby, Niall Rogers and Garan Garan.
14:55So please join us for all that.
14:57Our first guest tonight is an actor, producer.
14:59He has the voice of an angel.
15:01And now he's got a new cookbook.
15:03He put it together with Cedric the Entertainer.
15:05It's called AC Barbecue, The Husky and Handsome Guide to Grilling.
15:09It comes out May 5th.
15:10Please welcome Anthony Anderson.
15:32Well, it's very good to see you.
15:35It's good to see a friendly face.
15:37How are you?
15:38I'm well, my friend.
15:38How are you?
15:39I think you may be too fit to be selling a barbecue cookbook right now.
15:42No, not at all.
15:43No, it's about balance.
15:44It's about balance?
15:45It's about balance, yeah.
15:46All right.
15:46Since when?
15:50Have you, Anthony, ever been to the White House Correspondents' Dinner?
15:53I have.
15:54I have.
15:54What years did you go?
15:57The year before Trump ran.
15:59Oh.
16:01And the year before that.
16:03So I can't remember what years, though.
16:04So maybe like 2014 and 15?
16:0724, 15, 20, 15, 16, something like that.
16:09Right in that area.
16:10And it was a fun evening, I assume?
16:11It was a great evening.
16:12Yeah.
16:13It was a great evening.
16:14Did you sit next to various political luminaries?
16:17I did.
16:18Yeah?
16:18I did.
16:18Talked a lot of trash.
16:19Talked a lot of trash to Trump.
16:21Did you?
16:21Because at that time, Trump said, I can't believe they have a show called Black-ish.
16:28Oh, right.
16:29That's right.
16:29How would they feel if we had a show like that?
16:31I was like, yeah, it's called Friends.
16:34You know?
16:37I didn't see what the up world was about.
16:40So as he was walking by, I called him over to the table and introduced him to my partner,
16:44Kenya Barris.
16:45It was like, yo, Kenya, Trump, Trump, this is my partner, Kenya.
16:48And, you know, we quizzed him about, you know, what he said.
16:51And then I specifically asked him if he was going to be running for president.
16:57And at that time, he said, no, I'm not Anthony.
17:00Oh, wow.
17:01And he did.
17:01Oh, wow.
17:02And he did.
17:03He did.
17:03He lied to you.
17:04I swear I didn't like him.
17:05As he always does.
17:07You know, always the mentalist was supposed to perform at the dinner.
17:11Yes.
17:11And he was supposed to be here tonight to read our minds.
17:13I think we were both excited about that.
17:15I was looking forward to having him sitting here, man, and seeing what he had to do.
17:18Have you ever been subject to a mentalist before?
17:20I have.
17:21I was in Cabo at a fundraising event.
17:25And there was a mentalist there.
17:26And he picked me out of the crowd.
17:28Mm-hmm.
17:29And, you know, hundreds of people.
17:31And we're outside.
17:32And he said, Anthony, pull out your money in your pocket.
17:34And he said, just count the money.
17:35Don't even count it aloud.
17:37And I had all $100 bills.
17:38And I counted it.
17:39Of course.
17:39It was like $3,200 in cash, right?
17:41Wow.
17:44And I had a 20 and like a one.
17:45And it was like $3,221.
17:48And he knew exactly how much money I had.
17:50And he said it.
17:51And then he told me, he came over and he said, you know, can I grab a bill?
17:54And I was like, sure.
17:55So he grabbed a $100 bill.
17:57And he said, I want you to fold this up into squares.
18:00And I want you to sit on it.
18:02And so I did that.
18:03And I sat on it.
18:03And then he went to the crowd and just asked people.
18:06He asked people their birthdays.
18:07He asked people their marriage dates.
18:09He asked people what date it was.
18:11He asked for phone numbers.
18:12And then he calculated everything into a calculator.
18:15And he said, Anthony, I want you to read off the number on that bill that you had folded under
18:20your lap.
18:21And there were nine numbers on the screen on the whiteboard that he put up there.
18:25And it was the exact numbers that I had on my $100 bill in order.
18:31Wow.
18:31And it was just amazing to see, you know, somebody do that.
18:35So that's why I was excited to see that guy.
18:36Yeah.
18:36And yet here we are, disappointed.
18:38Yeah.
18:39That would have been fun.
18:40I got $3,200 in my pocket right now.
18:43You want to see what we can do with it?
18:45I heard it's $3,221, man.
18:47Hold on.
18:48Let's see.
18:49Does your family, like, are psychics and fortune tellers a part of your, like, upbringing?
18:54I am.
18:55My best friend, Jerry Singleton, but I affectionately called him Skinny Boy.
18:59We went to high school together.
19:00So we've been best friends since 1987.
19:03Uh-huh.
19:04I'm his kid's godfather.
19:06He's my kid's godfather.
19:07And his mom, who just recently passed, Mildred Singleton, was a numerologist.
19:14Oh, she was?
19:15Yeah.
19:15She was a numerologist.
19:16And she could tell you everything how your year was going to be based on that number of
19:22the year, based on when you were born and what year you were born.
19:25Was it accurate?
19:26It was very accurate.
19:27She knew the years that I was going to have, I was going to make lots of money.
19:31She knew the years that I was going to travel.
19:32She knew the year that I was getting divorced.
19:34She knew the year, or she knew when I was going to meet somebody new in my life.
19:39And uncanny enough, when I was younger, when we were just in high school, she would always
19:44tell me, she'd say, Anthony, you're going to have a calling.
19:47And I was, what calling is that?
19:48And it went beyond acting.
19:51And she said, you know what?
19:53She said, you're going to go on to have your own talk show one day, and you're going
19:58to minister to the people, and you're going to be a minister.
20:00And lo and behold, I don't have my own talk show, but I host your talk show every summer.
20:07We share a talk show.
20:08Yes.
20:09And I'm an ordained minister now.
20:11Are you?
20:11Yeah.
20:12So...
20:13What?
20:15So the things that, you know, she saw happening for me at 17 and 18 years old actually came
20:23to life.
20:23Hold on.
20:24You're an ordained minister.
20:25Does that mean, are you an ordained minister so that you can marry your friends, or are you
20:28really preaching in a...
20:30Both.
20:30And you are.
20:31Yes.
20:32About Jesus?
20:37I have a calling.
20:39I mean, what better person than me, a heathen, to talk to the people?
20:45Yes, sir.
20:46And I've married two couples before, man.
20:48And everybody wants me to give the prayers and dinners and everything.
20:54Oh, really?
20:55Yeah.
20:55You've got to work now.
20:56Your dinners are ridiculous.
20:58I do.
20:58I do.
20:58Okay.
20:59Speaking of heathenism.
21:02And now that I know you're a minister, wow, this is really...
21:05I'm not sure if I should even bring it up.
21:06Let's go.
21:07But...
21:08I'm a man of the world, Jimmy.
21:09A promise you made on television.
21:11Go ahead.
21:11What kind of Dodger fan Anthony Anderson are we going to have if they went back-to-back?
21:17I'll streak at Dodger Stadium.
21:19Okay.
21:20That's what I'm going to do.
21:21That's what they're going to see.
21:22Okay.
21:22I'm going to streak Dodger Stadium.
21:24There you go.
21:25I'm wearing nothing but my rings.
21:27All right.
21:29Now, after you did that interview, the Dodgers won the World Series.
21:34Yes.
21:34Which means now...
21:35Yes.
21:36You have...
21:37You said you were going to streak.
21:39I did.
21:39Are you going to streak?
21:40I am.
21:41When?
21:42You know what?
21:44The Dodgers are holding my new World Series championship ring hostage until I streak in
21:52the stadium.
21:52You are.
21:53This is last year's ring that I gave them.
21:55Yeah.
21:56I gave them this year's ring and I was waiting for mine.
21:58And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
21:59Anthony, you made a promise.
22:00Will they make like a night?
22:02Like an Anthony Anderson naked bobblehead night or something like that?
22:08Which head will be bobbling?
22:12I guess, yeah, you can do multiple nights.
22:15You're right.
22:16I must be there when this happens.
22:19I will let you know.
22:20Please do.
22:21And I'm wondering, you know, you got to run the bases.
22:23It can't just be...
22:24You got to run.
22:25You got to...
22:25I'm going to run.
22:27I'm going to run.
22:28I'm going to run as if I hit a Grand Slam home run.
22:31Well, no.
22:31Oh, slow.
22:32Yeah.
22:33All right.
22:33Yeah.
22:34I like that.
22:35A trap.
22:36I'm going to run the bases in nothing but a pair of cleats and ankle socks.
22:41I said that.
22:42And I'm to the...
22:43And they are holding my World Series ring hostage until I do it.
22:48Will you have the ring on?
22:49I will have a couple of them on.
22:51Is it legal to run naked at Dodger Stadium?
22:55It's not illegal.
22:56OK.
22:56I think it might be illegal.
22:57And I'm not going to be completely naked.
22:58I'll have on ankle socks and cleats.
23:01And I know when I'm going to do it.
23:03Oh, you do?
23:04This is what I'm going to do.
23:05I'm going to air it on your show.
23:07Great.
23:08Yeah.
23:09And...
23:10Great.
23:13No one will see it until after I air it on your show.
23:17And this is when I'm going to do it.
23:18The week of August 10th when I am hosting this show myself.
23:21Oh, all right.
23:22Great.
23:23That is how I promise everybody that's out there watching right now,
23:27I promise you, the first night I host this show on August 10th,
23:32you will see me run butt naked around Dodger Stadium.
23:36I love it.
23:36And I am going to add something to that.
23:38Yes.
23:39If the Dodgers foolishly elect not to make naked Anthony Anderson bobbleheads,
23:45we will have them for everyone in the audience.
23:47All right!
23:48All right!
23:49Yes?
23:49It's a demon.
23:50Anthony Anderson.
23:50It's a demon.
23:51This is his cookbook.
24:15This is his cookbook.
24:27Let me love you down.
24:31Let me love you down.
24:31Yeah, that's Anthony Anderson.
24:35Let's, uh, ready for the world.
24:37Let me love you down.
24:39Hold on.
24:39Hold on.
24:40What do you know about ready for the world?
24:42I know everything.
24:42I know O'Sheila.
24:43R-F-T-W.
24:44You know O'Sheila?
24:45I know they're from Michigan.
24:47And for whatever reason, for reasons unknown,
24:50one of them has an English accent in the song O'Sheila.
24:53It's like, that's good for the goose.
24:55It's always good for the gander.
24:57Oh, Shayna.
24:58Yes!
24:59Yes!
25:00And no one explains why that accent is there.
25:02Ha, ha, ha!
25:03Yeah.
25:03Oh my god, I can't believe you know it.
25:05How did that happen with Wyclef?
25:06What was going on there?
25:07You know what, I was down in Atlanta
25:10hosting a fundraiser for HBCU Awareness Week.
25:14Oh, OK.
25:15Myself, Roxy Diaz, and Magic Johnson.
25:19And Wyclef John was our surprise musical guest.
25:22So at the end of his set, he was done.
25:24And I had to end the show.
25:25And I was like, ah, I can play the keys a little bit.
25:27So I just got up there.
25:28And we did the whole song verse for verse and chorus.
25:32Was he surprised and impressed by your voice?
25:34He was, to the tune that he said,
25:37Ant, I'm playing the Hollywood Bowl in another month or so.
25:40I want you to come on stage with me and my band
25:43and play with us.
25:44Oh, that's awesome.
25:45So we'll see.
25:47We'll see.
25:48But I plan on doing it.
25:49I plan on joining the stage at Hollywood Bowl.
25:52Will you do that naked as well?
25:54Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
25:57You've come up with a good plan for Anthony's Dodger's appearance.
26:00Now.
26:01I might host this show naked.
26:02How long have you been?
26:03Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
26:04That would be something.
26:06Yeah.
26:07All right.
26:08A naked show.
26:08I like that idea.
26:10All right.
26:10How long have you been playing piano?
26:12I really can't play.
26:13You know, I fake it, man.
26:14Do you?
26:15I went to the high school for the performing arts,
26:17and all my buddies were in band.
26:18So when they were practicing at lunch, man, I would just sit there.
26:21And so I don't know any notes.
26:23I just mimic.
26:24I just mimic what I saw.
26:25So the songs that I play, I just remember where their hands were.
26:29So I don't know.
26:29Well, that's called playing, I think.
26:31Isn't it?
26:31I don't know what it is.
26:33I know a couple of songs.
26:34I know a few songs.
26:36I don't know them straight through because it was only on lunch,
26:38so I never got to learn the whole song.
26:40So I can.
26:42You never took lessons?
26:44You weren't forced to take lessons by your folks?
26:46I wanted to play the piano so bad that my mother put me in piano classes.
26:51Oh.
26:51But she put me, she heard about this piano class,
26:54and she put me in it, but it was an advanced piano class.
26:57So they were playing by ear, and they were doing all this stuff.
27:00Man, we didn't even have a piano at the house.
27:02Oh.
27:03So I didn't know how I was going to do this,
27:05and they gave me a cardboard cutout of the 88 keys
27:10for me to place my hands on chords.
27:14I was like, okay, that's cool, but I can't hear , you know?
27:17So that didn't serve a purpose.
27:20So I got my mother's credit card one day,
27:24and I ordered a baby grand piano from Colton.
27:30It was a piano store here called Colton Piano Store.
27:32And I called Colton up, and I thought it was going to be a surprise.
27:36And my mom wasn't going to be home when they delivered the piano.
27:39She was just going to walk in.
27:39I was going to be, ha, surprise.
27:41Well, she happened to be home when they delivered the piano,
27:44and it ruined my surprise.
27:47And my mother cussed the piano guy out and was like,
27:50what the hell you doing?
27:51Am I?
27:51I didn't know no goddamn piano.
27:53I was like, uh, mama, I did.
27:55And so she returned the piano, had to return it,
27:58and she got her money back.
28:00And then she tied me butt naked to the avocado tree
28:07and whipped me with the fan belt off an 84 Ford Carrier truck.
28:10Oh, my God.
28:12Yeah.
28:13And when you were tied to the avocado tree,
28:15is that when you got interested in cooking?
28:19Well, that's when I got interested and realized
28:23I didn't have a problem being naked in public.
28:27Well, you and Cedric, you guys love barbecue.
28:30You love to barbecue.
28:31You love to barbecue.
28:31You love to eat barbecue.
28:33We can see you pretending to eat a corn in the cob here.
28:36We can see Cedric pretending to eat a rib here.
28:40Oh, we ate that.
28:40Oh, you did eat it.
28:41Oh, yeah.
28:41No, we ate that.
28:42We had to hold it still for the picture.
28:44But no, we ate that stuff.
28:45What inspired you to do this?
28:48Why did you write this?
28:49Well, you know, Cedric and I started a barbecue lifestyle
28:52company a few years ago.
28:53We created...
28:54You're living the barbecue lifestyle.
28:55Yeah.
28:56That I am.
28:57We created a reality show called The Kings of Barbecue.
29:00Yeah.
29:00Developed seasonings and sauces that are in Walmart and Kroger
29:05and Lowe's and Rouse and H-E-B's.
29:07Wow.
29:07All those places.
29:08And then we opened up a restaurant in the Westfield Century City
29:12Mall called AC Barbecue.
29:14And the next thing was to, you know, make this cookbook.
29:17And it's...
29:18It chronicles the story of barbecue and community
29:21and what it's really about.
29:22Yeah.
29:22So everybody's invited to the cookout if you have the book.
29:24Everybody's invited.
29:25Yeah.
29:25Now, this is something that I do want to discuss with you
29:27because this feels like an attack on Italian-Americans.
29:32Barbecue.
29:33You've never had barbecue spaghetti?
29:35No.
29:36No.
29:37You should try it.
29:38All right.
29:39My meal will make it for me.
29:40When you go home, do that recipe and call me
29:42and let me know what you think about that.
29:43Okay.
29:43All right.
29:44And this is something that is either...
29:47I don't know.
29:48Are you trying to kill people?
29:49Because deep fried uncrustable seems like the way to do it.
29:54You know, these are recipes and family recipes
29:57from around the country.
29:59And they tell the story.
30:00I bet this is great.
30:01Yeah, no, it's great, man.
30:02Is it?
30:02Yeah, it is.
30:03We did good.
30:03You put ice cream on it?
30:04Or how does it go?
30:05You can put whatever you want on there.
30:07Okay.
30:08All right.
30:08Yeah.
30:09Well, there's some...
30:09You know, some of those pictures are pornographic in there.
30:11They are pornographic.
30:12Yeah.
30:12They are.
30:13It's making me hungry just looking at them like this.
30:15I love fried catfish.
30:16That's real good.
30:16Yeah, there it is.
30:17You make that?
30:18Yeah.
30:19Yeah.
30:19That's not barbecue, boy.
30:20That's good.
30:21You know, my dad was the youngest of 16.
30:23He grew up on a farm in Little Rock, Arkansas.
30:25Wow.
30:25So my dad is the one that taught me about barbecue.
30:29He was a welder by trade, so he would make his own barbecue.
30:31Oh, that's awesome.
30:32Really?
30:3255-gallon drums, yeah.
30:34Do you have any of those barbecues that he made?
30:37No, I don't have any of the drums, unfortunately.
30:39Oh, man.
30:39I don't.
30:40But that was our history together.
30:42Well, that's beautiful.
30:43Well, you know what?
30:44If you've got a hankering for any barbecue spaghetti,
30:46or maybe a deep-fried uncrustable, or all the regular stuff, too,
30:52it's right there.
30:52AC Barbecue, the Husky and Handsome Guide to Grilling.
30:55It comes out May 5th.
30:56The great Anthony Anderson, everybody.
30:59We'll be back with John Love.
31:05This week on Jimmy Kimmel Live, Kiki Palmer, Goldie Hawn, and Meryl Streep,
31:12plus music from Kevin Morby and Duran Duran featuring Nile Rodgers.
31:24Hi there.
31:25Welcome back.
31:26Our next guest went from the White House under Obama to podcaster,
31:31which is the opposite of how they do it now.
31:33He has two popular podcasts, Pod Save America and Love It or Leave It.
31:37Please welcome John Lovett.
31:51How are you?
31:53I'm doing great.
31:54It's very good to see you.
31:55I'm doing great, yes.
31:55I know you were in Washington over the weekend.
31:58That's right.
31:58But you did not go to the correspondence dinner.
32:01No.
32:02As a rule, if J.D. Vance and I are at a party at the same time,
32:08either he made a mistake or I made a mistake.
32:11You know, I got out of town.
32:12I was on a plane when it all happened.
32:15Oh.
32:15The Wi-Fi wasn't working.
32:17Oh.
32:18By the time I landed, it was already about building a ballroom.
32:22That's right.
32:23Now, am I nuts in thinking that he might now have a point about this ballroom?
32:29Yeah.
32:29I am.
32:30You're nuts.
32:30Why?
32:31Because the problem with the ballroom is not the idea or concept of a philosophical ballroom.
32:38Mm-hmm.
32:39It's that he knocked down the East Room without asking anybody permission like Tommy.
32:44Mm-hmm.
32:44Yeah.
32:45I forgot about that.
32:47The ballroom doesn't become more legal because someone did something evil and stupid
32:53at a different ballroom.
32:55Like, it's not how ballrooms work.
32:57It isn't?
32:57No.
32:58Wait a minute.
32:59Let me ask this.
33:00How do you know so much about ballrooms?
33:03What are you, spending your life at a Chuck E. Cheese?
33:05What do you know about these ballrooms?
33:07Had some fun in those bits.
33:08Yeah.
33:09You, um, did you go to, like, parties and stuff?
33:12Yes.
33:12The three parties?
33:13So, I host a show called Love It or Leave It.
33:15Mm-hmm.
33:15We did a big live show.
33:17And then Crooked Media, the company that John and Tommy and I founded, that does Pod Save
33:21America, we had a big party.
33:23But then the goal was for me to get John and Tommy, my straight boys, to the Grindr party.
33:28Ah, yeah.
33:29Because Grindr, you know, the app, had a party.
33:34And they've never had a party before.
33:35And so I'm trying to get my boys to the Grindr party, all right?
33:38And then there's a traffic jam at the Belgian embassy.
33:41And we're like, what's going on?
33:43And, oh, everybody's trying to talk to Gavin Newsom.
33:45And some reporter's like, are you trying to talk to Gavin Newsom?
33:47I'm like, I don't, I'm trying to get my boys to the Grindr party.
33:51And then we get to the Grindr party.
33:53Oh.
33:54Lindsey Graham is there.
33:55No.
33:55No, he's not.
33:59No.
34:00Oh.
34:01No.
34:01But we're at this.
34:02Wouldn't that be nice for him, though?
34:05Boy, he's there in his mind.
34:08You don't have to be a great mentalist to figure that out.
34:14But so we're at the Grindr party.
34:16Uh-huh.
34:16All right.
34:17And they ran out of alcohol.
34:19No!
34:23Gay people have been fighting for 50 years, all right?
34:27Marsha P. Johnson threw a brick at the Stonewall Riot.
34:31And now the gays are running out of alcohol.
34:35And it's like, you're at this thing.
34:37You're like, who do I got a to get a martini?
34:41There was no one.
34:42No one?
34:44But so, so, stop it.
34:47So, we're at, wait, we're at the Grindr party.
34:51And because my fellow Pond Save America co-hosts are confident in their masculinity.
34:56Right.
34:57They're enjoying themselves at the Grindr party.
34:59But then who do we see?
35:00We see the head of the Democratic National Committee.
35:03A guy named Ken Martin.
35:04OK.
35:04And we think, oh, that's, and I've been drinking.
35:06I was like, oh, I'll say hi to the head of the DNC.
35:08I forgot that we've been critical of the DNC.
35:12Oh.
35:12And so, all of a sudden, I'm in this super intense conversation
35:15with the head of the Democratic National Committee.
35:18Because they had written on a report about what went wrong in 2024,
35:21but didn't release it because it went perfectly.
35:25And we're like, we think the report should be released.
35:27So, I'm in this, like, kind of a little bit of an intense conversation.
35:30And I'm like, I've never seen this kind of passion from this guy before.
35:33I've had a few drinks.
35:34And I'm like, maybe the atmosphere is like, there's something going on here?
35:36No.
35:38There wasn't.
35:40But now he's going to be on Ponce of America tomorrow.
35:41Oh, he is?
35:42Yeah.
35:43Oh, all right.
35:44But the thing about it is, this dinner, I thought it was like a silly thing for a really long
35:48time.
35:49Like, why is everybody being so cushy?
35:50We're supposed to be, the press is supposed to hold people in power accountable.
35:53It blurs the lines, yes.
35:54But now that we've lived under Trump for so long, it's like, you know what, maybe it's okay that people
35:59come together in one room once in a while and talk to each other and have a couple drinks and
36:03then go back to fighting again the next day.
36:05Interesting.
36:06So you think, which is different, I think, from what a lot of people think, you think it is actually
36:10more appropriate now to be in a room for an event that supports the First Amendment with somebody who doesn't
36:17believe in the First Amendment.
36:19No, I wouldn't be caught dead at the dinner.
36:20Oh, okay.
36:22The parties, you mean.
36:23Yeah, but it's nice to be around people in real life as opposed to just fighting on the internet.
36:28Yeah.
36:29Because ultimately, it is supposed to be a chance to poke fun at people in power.
36:33That's what you were doing.
36:34That's what you were doing.
36:35You were using your First Amendment right to poke fun at people in power.
36:39And that's what that whole weekend used to be about before they changed comedian to mentalist.
36:46Do you have any mentalist powers that you can share with us?
36:50Because I'm sending a message to the mentalist right now.
36:54What is the message?
36:56You canceled?
36:57You .
37:03Funny, I was...
37:04I've been sending him that message all day.
37:07I was a telepathian.
37:08Maybe you tuned into my mentalist and then it went to the other mentalist.
37:12Maybe I'm mentalizing.
37:13That's interesting.
37:14Look, everybody enjoys an inoffensive joke in good taste, right?
37:18Like, Trump was supposed to perform after a mentalist.
37:21That's interesting because he's a bit of a magician.
37:23He made America's reputation disappear.
37:25Mm-hmm.
37:26But see, that's...
37:30That's fine.
37:31That's easy.
37:32Everyone...
37:33No one's gonna have a problem with that.
37:34But when things are tough, you need to be able to make jokes about dark topics.
37:38Like how every...
37:40You made fun of RFK Jr. for seeming to race ahead of his wife Cheryl Hines as he left her
37:45behind.
37:45But I think that's really unfair.
37:47Because if the shooter were dead, you only have 30 minutes or so to get that meat in the freezer.
37:57Now that is in poor taste, but that's what democracy is all about, Jimmy.
38:02That's right.
38:03That's...
38:03You couldn't be more correct on that.
38:05Now, you know things.
38:07Why do you think they make a big deal out of something like a joke, like a dumb joke, and
38:13try to make it into this...
38:15Why do you...
38:15In your opinion, why do they do that?
38:17What's their purpose?
38:20It's hard to get into their minds.
38:21Mm-hmm.
38:21I'm no mentalist.
38:22But the...
38:24I think it is wrong.
38:26Political violence is incredibly dangerous.
38:28It can tear a society apart.
38:30There's nothing to be gained from it.
38:31I find it gross when people try to defend it, whatever the side.
38:35And I think it's gross when people try to exploit it.
38:37Because what political violence does is it doesn't just try to silence one leader, one powerful person.
38:42It tries to silence all of us.
38:44It tries to decide something for all of us.
38:46And that can't work.
38:47We can't allow that to work.
38:48So we should be able to denounce it collectively.
38:51And so they want to go after you.
38:53They want to go after everybody.
38:54Because on some level, they know that one person who has encouraged so much political violence,
38:58and has caused so much division, and has raised the temperature so high, is the president of the United States.
39:04And there's something comforting to go after you.
39:09There's something comforting about going after their left, their typical opponents.
39:13Right?
39:13As opposed to just facing the fact that, yeah, it's bad when anybody, a random person on the internet, defends
39:20political violence.
39:21But it's especially dangerous when it's the most powerful person in the world.
39:24By the same token, I think it is also wrong when people compare Trump to Hitler, or say that MAGA
39:32is a bunch of Nazis.
39:33Like, I saw that insurrection.
39:36Okay?
39:37Nazis were Hugo Boss.
39:44So, you are saying that they're not as well-dressed.
39:47Yeah.
39:48Yeah.
39:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:51Do you think it is the president's job to set the tone for the country?
39:57Absolutely.
39:58I think...
39:58I think...
39:59I think...
39:59Well, whether it's his job or not, the president does set the tone for the country.
40:04And the one thing I would just say is, we've already been through an episode of Donald Trump
40:09trying to get Jimmy Kimmel canceled.
40:12And gas is $6 a gallon.
40:15Open the straight of .
40:16All right?
40:18And by the way...
40:22You know, Jimmy, you're a lot like the Ayatollahs.
40:26Well, first of all, thank you.
40:29Yep.
40:30Um, in what ways, John?
40:33Thanks for asking.
40:35Strike you down.
40:36There's a dozen younger, hotter, more extreme versions of Jimmy Kimmel just waiting to take power.
40:42Bearded as well.
40:43Absolutely.
40:44Maybe gay.
40:45Maybe gay.
40:46We'll find out at the Grindr party next year.
40:48That's right.
40:48Absolutely.
40:50I'll come...
40:51I'll be one of your boys.
40:52Hell yeah.
40:52We'll get going there, yeah.
40:53That's great.
40:53It's a date.
40:54Well, good luck with Ken Martin tomorrow.
40:56That's right.
40:58I hope he's not too upset.
41:00Let's hope...
41:00He's not gonna cancel because of this, right?
41:02We better not.
41:03We had such a great conversation.
41:04You know what?
41:04If he does, we'll bring the wrath of Melania down on him.
41:08I think it's...
41:09I just wanna say, in a divided time, I think it's beautiful that you could find a way for Trump
41:14and his wife to reconnect.
41:17You know what?
41:18That's a very, very good point.
41:20John Lovett, everybody.
41:21He's in the podcast.
41:22We'll call him Lovett or leave it on Saturdays and Pod Save America on Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday.
41:29Thank you, John.
41:37Thanks to Anthony Anderson and John Lovett.
41:40Apologies to Matt Damon.
41:41We ran out of time for him.
41:42Join us tomorrow night with Kiki Palmer, Kareem Rama, and music from Kevin Morby.
41:46Nightline is next.
41:47Thanks for watching.
41:48Goodnight.
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