Murdered or Missing Season 1 Episode 2

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🏘️ Murdered or Missing (2026) - Season 1 Episode 2  Sometimes the most important witness says nothing at all. In Episode 2 "The Silent Witness", investigators revisit a stalled case where a key witness refused to talk — until now. Through renewed interviews, forensic re-analysis, and psychological insight, detectives uncover a hidden timeline that changes everything. But as truths surface, new questions emerge: why did they stay silent... and what are they still protecting?  🔹 Episode Highlights: • Witness breakthrough: a reluctant source finally shares crucial information • Timeline reconstruction: digital evidence and physical clues align to reveal new leads • Psychological depth: understanding fear, loyalty, and the cost of silence • Family impact: renewed hope mixed with the pain of delayed justice • Signature true crime intensity: meticulous detective work + human stakes + unforgettable revelations  🔹 Series Info: • Format: True Crime Documentary / Missing Persons / Investigative Serial • Original Network: [Crime Network] / International Streaming • Season: 1 | Episode: 2 | Title: "The Silent Witness" • Setting: United States / Canada (Various Locations) | Language: English • Runtime: ~42-45 minutes  👉 Enjoying the series? Hit LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and comment: "Would you have spoken up sooner? 👇" Turn on notifications 🔔 for Episode 3!  #ShowTVMovies #MurderedOrMissing #TrueCrime #TheSilentWitness #S01E02 #MissingPersons #InvestigativeTV #BingeWatch #CrimeDocumentary #JusticeSeekers  ⚠️ Copyright Disclaimer: This video is shared for promotional, review, and informational purposes only. All rights to "Murdered or Missing" belong to the respective producers and networks. This upload complies with Fair Use guidelines (Section 107, U.S. Copyright Act). No copyright infringement intended.

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01:00Amajit Chohan's badly decomposed body was discovered near Bournemouth Pier.

01:07There are now concerns for other family members who disappeared with the millionaire businessman.

01:19Amajit's body washing up on Bournemouth Beach wasn't a case of someone's gone swimming and drowned, swam off a boat

01:27and drowned.

01:27He was gagged. He was murdered.

01:31The vibe around the team was horror and the sadness that we're now looking for the rest of the family.

01:37You know, where are they? Are they being detained somewhere? Or worse, have they been killed?

01:42I immediately authorized aircraft to fly over around that immediate area, see if we can identify any bodies in the

01:51sea.

01:56We had to find that family and we had to do everything we could to try and find them.

02:20My job as a crime scene manager was basically we were on call for any serious incidents, that's murder, shootings.

02:30We would go out and assess the scenes and deal with it like a murder scene until we were happy

02:35that it was not suspicious.

02:37But certainly this one, the fact that he had tape around his face and was gagged, that really pushes it

02:44straight up to this is a suspicious death.

02:48We've got to try and piece together, you know, what has happened to this man, he's obviously met a very

02:52uncomfortable end.

03:04The body was fully clothed and it often takes quite a while to remove each item of clothing.

03:11A either navy or purple sweatshirt, v-neck, long sleeve, had a certain amount of grit on it.

03:19A pair of blue jeans, heavily contaminated by sand.

03:23I felt each sock as I took it off, it felt squashy like any saturated sock.

03:30And there was a pair of navy boxer shorts.

03:33However, the important thing that was still left was the bindings round the lower face.

03:40It consisted of a mixture of a scarf and brown wide parcel tape that had been wound round and round

03:48the head repeatedly.

03:50There was a very mutilating injury to the top of the head, not just to the scalp but the skull

03:56underneath it.

03:57This was obviously a blunt force injury.

04:03If that had happened during life and we were dealing with a fresh body, you would expect to see bruising

04:10of the scalp.

04:11There was no bruising around that.

04:15He had fracture of the very bottom of the spinal column in his neck.

04:21If it had happened during life, you'd expect to see bruising around the fracture.

04:25There was no bruising around this one.

04:27And I felt that because that's a structure deep inside the body, that's probably a post-mortem fracture.

04:34It's often called the undertaker's fracture.

04:37Because if a body is roughly handled after death, that is where it tends to break.

04:44I finished the autopsy saying this is a highly suspicious death.

05:02The matropotent police said he had died in appalling circumstances.

05:12I could see that Ankur's body was slightly trembling.

05:16Then he regrouped himself and started asking more questions on where that was, how that was found.

05:25We were shocked, totally horrified by what we were being told, and trying to digest that information.

05:34And I think both of us thought, so how do we find Nancy and the other family members?

05:41But my head was going, this is not looking good for us at all.

05:58The day that Amajit's body washed up on Bournemouth Beach was the 10-year anniversary of Stephen Lawrence's murder.

06:09And at my level, we were very conscious of the fact, the eyes of London, the eyes of the country,

06:14the eyes of the world were on the Met Police.

06:15What we did, how we did it.

06:18Had we moved on?

06:22In fact, Amajit Chohan was an Asian man.

06:26The person had been lying to us all along about him being in touch and missing and going to meet

06:31us and get passports.

06:32He was a white man.

06:37Kenneth Regan was a good liar.

06:39And he gave us this story of the Chohan family going off on holiday.

06:44What's wrong?

06:46Yeah, of course I'm running the business.

06:48I'm a partner.

06:50So all the focus was on Kenneth Regan and his associate, William Halsey.

06:57And Belinda Bruin was someone who was working on behalf of Regan on a daily basis for Seba Freight Amajit's

07:04business.

07:04The complete focus now of the investigation was to track down Regan and Halsey.

07:13And at this time, Belinda Bruin was also being sort of quite extensively interviewed because she clearly knew a lot

07:20of the background.

07:22And in a sort of throwaway comment, right at the end of her interview, she happened to sort of mention,

07:27I don't know if this has got anything to do with it, but I did come home, you know, a

07:31week or so ago.

07:32She had been working in London and had gone home to Tiverton and Devon earlier than she'd planned.

07:38And had come across Regan Halsey and another man who she knew to be a guy called Peter Rees.

07:48They'd been digging in the corner of her field.

07:54She had a couple of fields opposite her house where she kept horses.

07:59She was quite angry and said, what are you doing?

08:03And Regan said, look, you know, I told you I'd sort out the drainage in your field for you, so

08:07I've done it as a favour.

08:09That set alarm bells ringing, to say the least.

08:14So we immediately dispatched Detective Sergeant Tony Bishop down to Belinda Bruin's property.

08:23We were told, once you find this ditch, get it dug up.

08:28We get there, and Belinda comes zooming up the lane in a massive panic, explaining that she's literally just bumped

08:35into Regan and Halsey at the end of the lane.

08:40They had said to her, look, get in the car, we need to speak to you.

08:46As far as she was concerned, if she'd got in the car with them, that would probably be the end

08:50of her, because she's clearly a very loose end, as far as they're concerned, certainly in terms of all the

08:56activity in the field.

09:01The DCI had sort of said to us, right, you know, you two stay down there, and basically make sure

09:07Regan and Halsey don't come back, and if they do come back, then arrest them.

09:13We didn't have any sort of protective equipment.

09:15So we were literally looking around, trying to sort of think, what could we arm ourselves with as potential weapons?

09:21We were looking at sticks and rocks.

09:25It was a pretty surreal moment in my policing career anyway.

09:30But Regan and Halsey didn't come back.

09:36We found out two o'clock the next morning, Regan and Halsey booked onto a ferry going across to Calais.

09:48Why do people skip the country?

09:50Well, they skipped the country because they got something to hide, fear, run away from.

09:55We sent a couple of officers over to France to see if we could physically track where they were going.

10:02Over time, we did find out they'd gone to Spain.

10:09We started working with the authorities, Europol, Interpol, Spanish police.

10:14So if Regan and Halsey had turned up at an airport and tried to book a flight to the Far

10:20East, we would have got them that way.

10:25Regan, Halsey and Peter Rees were our three key suspects in this murder investigation.

10:31Peter Rees, we didn't know where he was.

10:34Norman McKinley, as the SIO, had made a decision of, I want to get Regan and Halsey before Rees.

10:44The police then not just distributed two pictures of their prime suspects, but held them up for the TV cameras.

10:52I am satisfied that these two men are involved.

10:56It was a bold and dramatic move, but it showed just the sense of importance of this number one priority

11:03the Met police had at that time.

11:08I'm still hopeful and I'm praying to God for my mother, my sister and my two nephews.

11:22There was lots happening both in London and in Devon.

11:28The next step was to excavate in the corner of Belinda's Field.

11:36There was evidence that an area had been recently dug up and re-filled.

11:41With forensic officers and exhibits officers, we did do, you know, literally a fingertip forensic search of this trench.

11:49They were looking for anything that would put the Chohans, or could put the Chohans, into a potential gravesite.

11:58Very difficult process. Basically, everything has to be dug out and then put through sieves.

12:04I think it had rained for nearly two weeks non-stop down there, so it was like a caugmire.

12:11I don't think any of us really thought that there were going to be any bodies in this field.

12:15You know, it just seemed too incredulous.

12:35Police already knew about Kenneth Reagan's significant criminal past, and that he had associates some of the highest and most

12:44dangerous criminals in London and the south of England.

12:50We then found out that in the 90s, when he'd been charged with possession of intents of supply heroin, he

12:57had turned Queen's evidence and actually gave information against his co-conspirators.

13:05As a result, given that evidence, he had a reduced sentence from 20 years to eight years.

13:11The names that Reagan handed over to the police in 1998 resulted in a £100 billion cocaine operation being busted

13:19and 15 people being convicted.

13:22One of which, quite astonishingly, was his best mate, William Hornsey, who somehow had forgiven Reagan for landing him behind

13:31bars, and they were now as thick as thieves in an even closer association.

13:43I got a phone call from one of the officers in the field in Devon.

13:48We haven't found any bodies, but we have found something.

13:55They recovered Indian jewellery, bits of hair, certainly poppers, which looked like they might have come off nappies or children's

14:05clothes.

14:06There was burnt bits of wood and furniture. We weren't sure where that had come from at that stage.

14:12In our minds, we think the family were buried here, and Reagan, Hornsey and Rees have then come back and

14:19excavated the bodies.

14:23There was clear indication that bodies have been buried too.

14:28Certainly, we believe one body, and that is Mr. Chohan.

14:34It's too early to say that the other members of the family, that is the two children and the two

14:41female adults who are here.

14:55Reagan, having told us all these stories, he was the focus.

15:01Some people that worked at Ciba were saying that all they could hear Ray's voices whenever Amicic was on the

15:09phone.

15:10Then we heard that he was quite nervous about going to this meeting at Stonehenge about the business.

15:17Subsequently, we found out that meeting was with Reagan and these two Dutch guys.

15:23We believe that he met with Reagan, Hornsey was there and Rees, but Rees was making out he was a

15:30Dutch buyer.

15:31So start to look what's around Stonehenge.

15:36And we quickly established that Kenneth Reagan was living with his father in Wiltshire, which is not that far away.

15:44Officers had visited Kenneth Reagan's father's address.

15:48The weekend that we knew that Chohan had gone missing, Kenneth Reagan had told his father that he was packing

15:56him off for the weekend.

15:58The father, when he spoke to us, said that when he came home, he had new carpets and a new

16:03sofa in the house.

16:10You go in there thinking this is possibly a major crime scene.

16:16And when you walk in the front door and you smell fresh paint, that definitely makes you think, has there

16:22been a cover up?

16:24There was a new carpet.

16:26You could see where maybe an old carpet had been and certainly some new wallpaper had been put up.

16:33There seemed to be some bits of furniture missing, which may account for some of the bits of wood burnt

16:38down in Devon.

16:41To me, this is covering up something that's happened in this house.

16:47So we called Claire Austin from the Forensic Science Service to come out and we use luminol, which is a

16:53chemical which we spray around and then we leave it for a few days and then we go back and

16:58we can see where possibly blood has been cleaned up.

17:03The problem is luminol reacts with peroxide and they'd use bleach to clean up.

17:11We found sort of 20 areas which possibly was blood and they were swabbed and sent off for analysis.

17:19But it all came back negative.

17:23After spending several days examining inside of Forge Close, we looked around the outside of the house to see if

17:29there was anything out there.

17:31And approximately four feet in height from the ground on the outside wall of the house, we found a small

17:37blood stain that looked like it had come from above in a downward trajectory.

17:44And that was then sent for DNA analysis and found to match one of the Chohan males of the family.

17:51Hello.

17:53Nina, Nina, Nina, Nina.

17:56We started to realize that potentially all five of the Chohan family had been murdered.

18:06Kenneth Reagan was actually very, very canny.

18:10He covered his tracks very well initially and he wrote letters.

18:14He told people he'd been speaking to Amajit and Amajit was running away.

18:20When Chohan's belongings were recovered in a suitcase sometime later on, there were 23 blank piece of papers signed by

18:28Amajit Chohan.

18:32Some of the documents that we recovered were printed on Recy's home computer or on his word processor.

18:39We managed to match the paper up.

18:42I can only imagine that Amajit Chohan signed those pieces of paper under duress.

18:48So they're either torturing him or his family being tortured in front of him.

19:13The police had been given information that Peter Rees was in hiding in a bed and breakfast at a forest

19:22of Dean.

19:24He'd watched this press conference and said something spontaneous like, I know this case.

19:33And he told the owner of the bed and breakfast.

19:35And she got really worried and frightened and she rang the Bad Spartan police to give more information.

19:41I think he was cornered.

19:44He didn't know me from Adam.

19:46He just started saying, have I seen him on TV?

19:51And I said, no, should I have done?

19:53And he just said that he was involved with an Asian family that had disappeared.

19:59They could put me at the scene, but I didn't kill anybody.

20:03He was going, I can't pin that on me.

20:05And I'd say to him, you know, what is going on, you know.

20:08He just said that Regan was crazy.

20:12It was Regan, he's a psycho.

20:14I knew what I had to do.

20:20It wasn't that long before Peter Rees was found by a police team from the Met just drinking in a

20:26pub.

20:27When he was arrested, he knew his time was up and sort of came quietly.

20:34Rees was charged and interviewed by police and predictably said not a single word.

20:42He was someone, I think, overawed by the fact that he was dealing with such superior league criminals.

21:10Months after the body of Armageddon Chohan came up at Bournemouth Pier, a body came up in a fishing trawler

21:17just off the coast at Dorset.

21:20They found the body.

21:22It had been tightly wrapped in tarpaulin, arousing some suspicion.

21:27The body had been in the water for some time in quite a dilapidated state.

21:32We had a special post-mortem and samples were taken.

21:37And you came back that it was Nancy Chohan.

21:47It was a moment knowing that she was dead.

21:52She had a head injury.

21:54It was quite obvious that she'd recently given birth.

21:58She was just post-natal.

22:00It's so sad.

22:02I don't know how anyone could do that to someone.

22:17It's only when we are told what happened, it becomes even more horrifying because you realise that you're not going

22:25to find them.

22:27Anka is just breaking.

22:32The funeral director actually rang and said, I understand that you want to see the body.

22:37Can I tell you that it's battered?

22:39Because Nancy had received a hammer blow on her head.

22:44And I said, look, I need to talk to Anka.

22:46I don't need to see it, but Anka is insisting on it.

22:48And I actually went to the funeral director with Anka.

22:52And Jean, the funeral director, actually tried to be as sensitive as possible.

22:57What she'd done was clothe the coffin and put a scarf around the skull, but actually had a massive image

23:04of Nancy in her beautiful sari.

23:09For me, it was not a skeleton.

23:11For me, it was my baby sister.

23:16For me, she was still alive and I was talking to her.

23:25And that was it.

23:29A tearful goodbye. That's what I said.

23:47Then we heard from the Metropolitan Police that the mother had been found.

23:56Mrs Corr's skull was found on Alham Bay Beach on the Isle of Wight.

24:03Some children playing football came across a skull.

24:10Anka is a man who has lost everything in a period of months.

24:17There is still, I think, in Anka's head, you'll find the children.

24:21It's not common sense. It's irrational.

24:26When Nancy Chohan was dredged up by a trawler, the trawler men did see a package fall, or something fall

24:33from her body.

24:38We can only assume that they were the children.

24:44Speaking to sort of marine experts, they said that children, you know, bodies that size would just never resurface.

24:54I don't think we'd believe before that day that anyone would be capable of murdering three generations of one family.

25:01Two baby boys, a mum, a dad and a grandmother.

25:04I didn't think anything like that was possible.

25:06Well, we've seen some horrific cases in our time, but at this time, it was the realisation that the family

25:12were all dead.

25:14It was shocking.

25:20By now, the investigation had become a huge, widespread investigation.

25:26You know, you've got crime scenes in London, potentially crime scenes in Stonehenge,

25:30the crime scene where Chohan has been held as a prisoner.

25:36Belinda Bruin, I think she literally only had like one or two neighbours.

25:40But the neighbour did also recount to us what Linda had said about Kenneth Regan, William Hornsey and Peter Rees

25:46digging in the field.

25:48A neighbour had seen them with a white transit van that they had tried to sort of block the view

25:53into the field.

25:56So we started looking at Regan, Hornsey and Rees as to any vans, any cars they've hired, have they hired

26:04any diggers?

26:06We established that Regan had hired a white transit van using his own driving licence, paying by his own credit

26:13card,

26:14making no attempts to sort of cover their tracks.

26:18The guy who ran the van hire company, you know, actually remarked that when they returned the van, there was

26:24just this awful smell.

26:28But the inside of the van had been pressure washed, which, according to the van hire guy, is unheard of,

26:33not pressure washes the van.

26:35And Regan sort of explained that they'd been moving some dead livestock.

26:39Well, it was clear that that van had obviously been used for something by Regan.

26:43Clearly he hadn't been moving livestock, so the van was immediately seized and brought in for a forensic examination.

26:54Regan, Hornsey and Rees seem to be very forensically aware.

26:58Their actions of redecorating forged clothes and cleaning the back of the van suggests that they were aware of their

27:05actions and trying to get rid of any evidence.

27:08I think someone would expect if they pressure washed an area to have got rid of all the evidence that

27:14could be there, but blood will go in places you wouldn't expect it to go.

27:19We went over it literally, millimetre by millimetre, looking for blood, looking for blood in crevices or gaps or areas

27:27that might have escaped.

27:30We did find blood inside the van that looked like it had been as a result of an impact, and

27:35that blood was sent away for DNA analysis.

27:39And that blood matched that of Amarjit Chohan.

27:45We were making huge, extensive CCTV inquiries.

27:51We were able to track your transit van going into a service station, down to the coast, and we found

27:59that Regan had bought a boat.

28:06The boat was brought into the lab, and it was stored in one of our forensic garages, and me and

28:11some assistants examined the boat.

28:14We spent several days going over it, doing a fingertip search of it.

28:18We think that they were transported in the open part of the back of the boat.

28:24And when we lifted up one of the mats, we found some hair.

28:29The hair looked like it had just fallen off the head, so it was obviously off someone who had been

28:33dead.

28:34And whether they had a head trauma or something, it was sort of black, very black hair.

28:41Finding something like the hair on the boat was a little bit of a breakthrough.

28:45I remember we phoned the police officer in charge and gave him the news that we'd found this hair, and

28:50rushed it through for forensic analysis to see if we could get any DNA from it.

28:56We got a partial profile of DNA.

28:58It indicated the hair had possibly come from an Asian male, that we believed to have originated from Amarjit Chohan.

29:07That was an indication that the bodies had come out of the pit in Devon, put into a speedboat, and

29:13taken out to the sea.

29:18We subsequently realised, looking at all the timeline, that was when Regan was becoming spooked by the police investigation,

29:26and probably felt that they could just lead us a bit of a merry dance with the story about meeting

29:31Chohan in Newport.

29:35That's when they went back to Devon, exhumed the bodies from their makeshift grave, put in this transit van,

29:43then put them on the boat and went out to sea.

29:47There was a local police marine unit coming into the harbour as they were going out.

29:52They sort of pulled up alongside to say, look, it's pretty choppy conditions out there, you know, you guys know

29:57what you're doing.

29:58Regan and Hornsey were sort of, yeah, thank you very much, yeah, we know what we're doing, we're fine.

30:02So off they went, you know, and we know now that once they got out to sea, all the bodies

30:09were dumped into the channel.

30:17The thing with Regan is, it seemed that crime had moved on since he was last sort of in prison.

30:25He just didn't seem aware of any phone cell site evidence that we could use.

30:34Sophisticated criminals tend to use sort of burner phones that they use for a very short period of time and

30:39then they discard.

30:39But throughout this entire crime, Kenneth Regan, William Hornsey and Peter Rees each kept the same mobile phone.

30:49Now everybody knows about phones being tracked.

30:52But in 2003, you've got to remember this was cutting edge technology and not many people actually comprehended or understood

30:59it.

31:01You could not pinpoint, but you could find a location of where a phone had been and when it was

31:06last used.

31:07There was an awful lot of telephone evidence showing Regan, Hornsey and Rees moving around the country at the times

31:15to the sites where we know the bodies were buried originally and also when they moved them down to the

31:21south coast.

31:27We started to look and see where Amidit Chohan's phone had gone, you know, around the time of the alleged

31:33sale of the business.

31:34And it's quite clear that Chohan's mobile phone is mirroring Kenneth Regan's mobile phone.

31:42Chohan would have realised at some point he'd been duped, was clearly then taken down to Regan's dad's house down

31:50in Wiltshire,

31:51where he was held prisoner and tortured and made to sign a number of sheets of paper that were subsequently

31:58used by Regan to be made into letters of power of attorney

32:03so that they could be presented to the CBER employees and obviously any authorities that came sort of asking.

32:12I think he probably really felt or bomb-proofed that he'd covered dead tracks.

32:20Then once Chohan was either being held prisoner or had already been murdered, Regan and Hornsey then had to deal

32:27with the rest of the family.

32:29They couldn't leave that avenue open.

32:33We'll never know what exactly took place in that house, but quite clearly Regan and Hornsey murdered Nancy Chohan, murdered

32:42Charanjic Core,

32:43and most chilling of all, murdered those two young boys, one who was eight weeks old.

32:50Kenneth Regan was a fairly major criminal and had been involved in the large-scale importation of drugs.

32:59But it's beyond belief that they went to those lengths just for the pure greed of taking over this warehouse

33:07so they could use that as a front for importing drugs again.

33:17Regan and Hornsey, they jumped on a ferry, went off to France, we know that.

33:22They're both wanted for multiple murders.

33:25They've both got sort of extensive criminal connections,

33:28certainly with the ability to make false documentation, passports, etc.

33:35We were able to see through cell site analysis where Regan's phone was, where Hornsey's phone was.

33:42They were actually in Belgium.

33:48So officers were dispatched and they worked with the northern part of the Belgium authorities

33:54and we identified where Regan was.

33:59He was tracked down to a campsite and was pretty robustly taken into custody.

34:06He was adamant he wasn't coming back voluntarily.

34:10But it was upheld by the High Court in Brussels

34:13and we were given 15 days to extradite him, basically.

34:22Meanwhile, Hornsey was elsewhere in Belgium in the southern part

34:25and we asked the northern authorities to contact their counterparts in the southern part

34:31but one lot were Flemish and one lot were French

34:33and they didn't really talk to each other.

34:36So we missed the opportunity of arresting Hornsey in Belgium.

34:42Hornsey was just on his own

34:43and didn't seem to have the same sort of contacts and connections and finances

34:48that Regan had had.

34:52One Friday afternoon, we got a phone call from a solicitor for Hornsey saying,

34:57look, he's had enough.

34:59He's getting on the ferry at Calais.

35:01Two or three of us immediately sort of jumped into the car and shot down to Dover.

35:06Literally got there just as he was coming off the ferry.

35:10I arrested him for murder.

35:14And he was brought back to a London police station,

35:17subsequently interviewed and ultimately charged.

35:21Both Regan and Hornsey were interviewed by police

35:24and predictably declined to give any evidence whatsoever.

35:29They never, ever, ever gave an account of what they did.

35:34And that for me spoke volumes by itself.

35:46Murder cases at the Old Bailey are very big stories.

35:51And a family wiped out entirely is a massive story.

35:58It's going to be front page material.

36:01And what's more, it's going to run for a long, long time.

36:06Anker was wrought with worry whether we'll get the conviction.

36:12There's no admission.

36:14There's no eyewitness accounts apart from circumstantial evidence of where they are.

36:18Nobody's seen the killings taking place.

36:22Any jury trial has unpredictable, uncertain quality to it.

36:27It was by no means a foregone conclusion that this would end with guilty verdicts.

36:34The prosecutor took over a day to outline all the evidence against each of the defendants,

36:39producing what he described as a compelling case of their guilt.

36:44As he described it, even though they got what they wanted,

36:48the documents signed that they took the decision.

36:51Ahmadinejad and his family all had to die.

36:54They then went off and buried them a week later in some remote part of the country,

37:00hoping the police would never discover the bodies.

37:03This gang, utterly ruthless, utterly immoral and utterly intent on getting away with their crimes,

37:11was not just the horror of what the prosecutor was describing.

37:15It was the moment when he produced, I think, his Trump card.

37:19There's almost a universal lean forward and scribbling started, even more furiously.

37:34Claire Austin from the Forensic Science Service rang me and we just went through all the exhibits before the trial.

37:41There was a pair of pants and a pair of socks, which belonged to Ahmadinejad Chohan,

37:46which she had on when he came out of the water.

37:49You don't get much evidence from socks or pants normally, you know,

37:53unless it's some sort of sexual thing going on.

37:55But Claire was very thorough and she said, well, send them up to me.

38:01We took it out of the bag to see if we could find anything externally,

38:05whether maybe someone had been wearing it without their shoes on.

38:08There might be some DNA evidence on the sole of the sock.

38:12I think it was about four days later, she rang me back and said,

38:15oh, you're never going to believe this.

38:19There was a piece of paper that was folded up inside the sock.

38:23I remember the realisation that this could change the whole case.

38:30The letter was a letter from the Cheltenham and Gloucester Building Society,

38:34addressed to Reagan and Mr. Avery, his father,

38:39in relation to a mortgage for Forge Close where they lived.

38:45Which means that Ahmadinejad Chohan had been in Forge Close when he put it into his sock.

38:53So it was a piece of evidence which absolutely categorically put Chohan in that house

39:00at the time that he was murdered.

39:04It seemed Chohan had probably realised he was going to fall foul of these men

39:09and perhaps when he was left unattended for a moment,

39:11he must have seen that letter on the side and just thought,

39:14if anyone finds me, I'm going to give them a clue.

39:18In headline terms, there's nothing more exciting than evidence arriving almost from beyond the grave.

39:33Each defendant had a team of their own,

39:36which meant that every witness was subjected to one of the defence teams individually,

39:42consecutively questioning them.

39:46I had no idea that they were going to go with the angle that the letter that was found in

39:51Ahmadinejad Sok

39:51had been planted there by myself or one of the other police officers in the case.

39:57It's vital when collecting evidence in a case like this to have a chain of custody

40:04between the people transporting it to the evidence store,

40:08the evidence store to the laboratory, the laboratory to the court.

40:11So every person that handles it has to sign the label.

40:14So there's a complete chain of evidence.

40:16So that was done with everything.

40:19Continuity of evidence just proves an item's not been tampered with, for example.

40:23It can't have been planted because the pathologist put it into the brown paper bag

40:27and I was the person to open it.

40:33The police, when they retrieved the body from the sea in Bournemouth,

40:38gave the defence the opportunity to say,

40:40how could possibly a letter survive having been in the sea for two months,

40:43let alone been underground for several weeks?

40:46It did plant confusion in the minds of the jury.

40:51The letter survived because it's been folded up so many times,

40:55like, into the size of a stamp.

40:58And because it's, you know, postage size and it's really squashed together,

41:02the sea water hasn't got into the paper.

41:19I did worry about jury fatigue.

41:23The sheer amount of evidence that the jury had to sit through,

41:27you're sitting there thinking, I really don't know how this is going to turn out.

41:32We started getting worried because, normally, if somebody's going to be found guilty,

41:36it comes up very quickly.

41:39You were sitting there, almost like an expectant mother,

41:43wondering what the result is going to be.

41:47I knew that they were guilty, I knew that there was no reason to doubt anything else,

41:51but the jury have to consider everything very carefully.

42:05This was a quintuple murder case, record-breaking in terms of length and amount of evidence that's produced.

42:12It was unbelievably tense.

42:15This was a big, big moment.

42:18They come back, and the foreman of the jury stands up,

42:21and when he gets asked,

42:22do you find the defendants guilty or not guilty?

42:26His foreman says, guilty.

42:36It was almost like a release of pressure.

42:40Yes, we got it through. We've managed it.

42:52It was a total sense of relief.

42:55We were happy that people were found guilty, and justice had been done.

43:00It's unfortunate that Onkar cannot be here and express his concerns with you.

43:05He believes the death of his nephew's very young children could only be influenced by hatred and contempt by the

43:14killers.

43:15We can not really tell your academics.

43:15It is just an experience for us.

43:17Geography of Bates

43:18Don't erase me Ching While he says this,

43:18me but he is through this and that is the answer basically.

43:23I love your 20th tissue.

43:24Let him shock your� 위 Dan next to you.

43:44We have to admit a compromise coming late to the pibe

43:49the judge told the two men your crimes are uniquely terrible

43:54the cold-blooded murder of an eight-week-old baby and an 18-month-old toddler not to mention

44:02the murders of their mother father and grandmother provide a chilling insight into the utterly

44:09perverted standards by which you have lived your lives your characters are as despicable as your

44:17crimes each of you is a practice resourceful and manipulative liar for these crimes you two

44:26highly dangerous men must now pay the heaviest sentence they had no prospect of release

44:37that is absolutely what should have happened to them for what they did how they did it lack of

44:43remorse lack of explanation it was absolutely the right sentence

44:51i've dealt with a huge number of cases i've met families in enormous tragic circumstances but i

44:58think onka is one of the most bravest men that i've ever met in my life he's brave not just

45:04because of the enormity of the tragedy that he's had to deal with he's throughout the whole process

45:10yes he cried but he kept his composure and his dignity and his calmness throughout the process

45:17i don't know how he did it

45:21and i just wish that we could go back and get his family back

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