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00:09I definitely did not sleep holy shit Eric had nothing else going on and I was an easy target
00:16you know she wants to play this villain now that everyone thought was cool she was smoking so now
00:20she walks around puffing her cigarette acting like an asshole because people thought it was
00:24cool you have fun with that this is about the three of us coming apart I'm ready tonight the
00:31three-part Beverly Hills reunion begins do you think he was emotionally abusive to you Tom Kyle
00:38if you do file for divorce will you be asking for half of the agency well it's mine did he
00:43realize
00:44that you accused her of lashing out in order to save my job I fucking came unglued do you want
00:52to apologize apologize for what Andy she's saying that it made her flip I didn't say it was a failure
00:59yes you did get over it don't talk to me on my back I fucking told him I'm very sorry
01:06but do you mean
01:07it no Erica I'm a cold-hearted fucking cunt I really like that word taking my selfie
01:22well hi Miss Brown Beverly Hills is in the house I see
01:28what's so pretty
01:32look at this showgirl wow hi nice to see you look great thank you wow it's time to put a
01:39show on
01:41this is very heavy I think dude is this dress gonna be hot oh my god this is what Rachel
01:48Zoe wears to a
01:49reunion yeah who is it Rachel this is vintage Jim and now I was really oh my gosh not the
01:58car on the
01:59set I've never had that before look at you matching the car I really like everybody looks gorgeous
02:11hello everyone it's so cool hi three yeah I'm gonna go this way
02:21all right we're waiting for the money queen hey Dorie guess what I'm at last time no baby
02:27hey money queen hi how are you hello hello you ready I guess how do you be ready cameras up
02:37and to Andy
02:38in three two one hey everybody welcome to the real housewives of Beverly Hills season 15 reunion I'm
02:48Andy Cohen and here's what I'm manifesting today friendship conflict followed by resolution
02:55and our set is manifesting the iconic rodeo drive good evening ladies
03:02good evening hi Rachel zone hi Andy everyone's obsessed with your boys oh me too they love their
03:10mom has Skylar bought an Hermes bangle for any girls lately no I have to say when that's okay
03:17Sky I love this don't just buy any random girl in your most recent okay did he use his allowance
03:24he did
03:25he used his bar mitzvah that's really oh hey Amanda welcome to your first reunion thank you what do you
03:32manifesting for today be myself say the truth maybe have some fun okay hi Sutton Brown hello Sutton
03:41Brown's first reunion yes easy breezy easy breezy hi Erica hey how you doing I'm good how is DJing going
03:51honey I had two fabulous weeks in Australia yeah I had the best time look I get to wear
04:01latex and play other people's records and have a good time I like it hi Bose hello let's see that
04:08ring wow it's shining beautiful I do have a special request oh okay for my Beverly Hills wedding I would
04:18love for you to DJ part of the wedding absolutely consider it done thank you thank you that's so great
04:23hi Dory hi Andy great to see you good to see you how are you feeling tonight good good great
04:30hi Kyle
04:30hi Andy Kyle you are officially Bravo's longest running consecutive housewife across all franchises this is
04:39your 15th season 15th straight reunion how does it feel I'm still standing she deserves applause
04:47for sure that's like a that's an achievement so before we get into it I just want to talk about
04:54where everyone stands because the once rock-solid friendships of Kyle Dorit and Erica were shaken
05:02which impacted really the whole group um do y'all think that we can land in a positive spot by
05:10the end of
05:11the day or I would love that you would I of course I would love that what do you think
05:17Dorit I mean
05:18listen I'd always love that but you have to be realistic you know see how the day goes Erica I
05:25don't
05:25have much hope really no okay when new housewife Rachel Zoe saw how excited fans were that she was back
05:35on
05:35Bravo she probably said I'm dead I can't are you okay and while the other women marveled at how
05:43stylish and put together their new friend was Rachel's home life was undergoing a painful new makeover take
05:51a look oh god my name is Rachel Zoe you may or may not remember me from Bravo because I've
05:59lived here
05:59before oh my god I have that bag I'm a little bit in awe of her because she is one
06:06of the most famous
06:07stylists in Hollywood people are always like oh my god you have it so together but on the inside I'm
06:12like oh my god I'm like crumbling I think we've outgrown each other he's always been grateful dad and I've
06:19always been st. Bart's so you know that my ex is this girlfriend right my kids are leaving she fucking
06:24appears dad was there and it was just like this is my friend and it was like hi and I
06:29was like hi and
06:29I just looked away and I was like oh that's the person it's an absolute myriad of bad decisions that
06:37have been made over the last month the last weeks the last fucking hour that would trigger me to move
06:46things forward it's fucking everywhere like it's everywhere he will be the greatest disappointment of
06:53my life forever oh I say you're okay I'm great I'm fucking great it came as no surprise uh the
07:01Bravo verse was very excited to welcome you back into the fold what did that tidal wave feel like
07:07honestly the love has truthfully been overwhelming and I think it's part of the fear of coming back in
07:14is you know having survived the tabloid era of being the subject of fodder a lot I came in like
07:22they're gonna come for me they're gonna hate me so it was scary but I also feel that I was
07:27a lot
07:27more open than I thought I would be a lot more open truthfully than I thought you were gonna be
07:32to tell you the truth was there any part of you that wanted to get back at Roger by coming
07:40on the
07:41show no not even a little I have to assume though that now that the show is airing yeah is
07:48he seeing
07:49things and getting upset yeah I think he hears um I'm sure that people tell him you know listen I
07:56the only thing I could say very honestly is some really bad things happened in real time this summer
08:03that were quite shocking and there's a lot that I didn't say do you regret it do you regret being
08:10open I don't really regret anything that I said because I definitely meant it and I honestly I still
08:16mean it but look here's the thing the truth is painful sometimes yeah but overall definitely not
08:23because I think if it helps as many people as I would like it to then I think that's great
08:27okay
08:28you know moving on to your divorce we saw you file on the show is it resolved yet no but
08:34but soon we
08:35know that you weren't happy when Roger's new girlfriend saw the boys at the airport do you
08:43have a relationship with her at all are you okay okay Andy I have to ask no no and not
08:52ever and no
08:53does he have any relationship with your parents no my dad can't really it's hard it's my my mother is
09:01more able to to talk to him because for her she's very much like he's the father of my grandchildren
09:08so
09:09I did have him at Thanksgiving because my mother we're all in Miami and he happened to have been
09:14there with a friend like a guy friend and my mother was basically like we need to invite him at
09:21least
09:21for dessert or whatever and I did and he stayed I thought it was gonna be dessert but it was
09:26from 9 to
09:27like 1 a.m. Wow and Roger's relationship with the boys is is good now better much much better good
09:34uh Rachel when you shared your story about a pre-engagement hookup with a model um Kyle you
09:41said in an interview what kind of marriage are you setting yourself up I cheated on you and guess what
09:48I got a big diamond the next day I mean that's sort of setting the precedence no we're diamonds you
09:54cheat
09:54and you get diamonds that's great but here's the thing I met him when I was 19 for me to
10:00have
10:00made out with one guy in the span of 34 years sex with somebody I said we fooled around oh
10:11I thought
10:11sex that's like wow well I was wrong no that would have been a whole different conversation um in happy
10:18news uh you were recently photographed on a red carpet with my gosh some guy called Sasha is that a
10:25thing um do you have something to tell me I'm hot what did she say it was a friend Kim
10:32from Cincinnati
10:32said wait is Rachel dating a life coach who sells online courses like Amanda I would die
10:55is that what he does he's um he's more of a um um um um um it's more of like
11:09a a
11:09mind body alignment basically um basically getting people back to a place of you know
11:17center of forgiveness things like that I'm not a client he's a friend okay you do know how many
11:23times instead he's a friend a very good looking tall okay all right well I'm gonna move on with
11:29the husband in prison and a 25 million dollar lawsuit on the horizon the past few years have
11:37given Erica a million different reasons to keep her walls up sorry for that transition
11:45but after decades of walking on thin ice with Tom a new gentleman in Erica's life melted this ice
11:52queen's heart watch this is an intro okay Erica yeah who is this guy the picture the paparazzi caught
12:00you with the other day what stood up most in those pictures was the fact that Erica had not a
12:06stitch
12:06of makeup she was dressed totally down and the guy was wearing Crocs when I saw that picture I thought
12:16she's so comfortable yeah you looked very comfortable I felt like you felt safe with him
12:20yeah there was no guard up Erica have you ever felt like you didn't have to have your guard up
12:26not in a long time I know that you're so over everything with Tom oh I'm not over that
12:36I'm heartbroken uh-huh knowing he's gonna die in prison right that's heavy
12:42certainly Tom's story is ending mine is still ongoing so I saw this thing about Erica and I've
12:50texted her I'm worried about her Erica Jane headed to trial over 25 million dollars spent during Tom
12:55Girardi's marriage wait wait I don't understand she's headed to trial what do they think they're
13:00gonna get 25 million dollars from her back I wanted to talk to you about the black eye I saw
13:05on I wanted you to know I went through this too there's a lot of shame around that getting hit
13:15or
13:15choked or kicked what happened to you look you were very lucky that you survived and by speaking about
13:26it that's the first step in letting go of it are you sure I did the right thing I'm a
13:34hundred percent
13:35positive sure yeah I know it for sure okay all right Erica I want to start by saying first how
13:51sorry and
13:52sad I am that you had to go through such a horrible experience I also want to acknowledge how brave
13:58it
13:58was of you to share your story so publicly why did you feel like you wanted to share that well
14:05I'd held
14:06it for a long time um and had Denise not said anything I probably wouldn't have said anything either
14:12mm-hmm what has the reaction been like from viewers the one silver lining has been very positive thank you
14:19for coming forward I I too have had this experience and I think you know no one should have that
14:25experience but it's much more common than we know how did you get out of the relationship if you don't
14:32mind I called the cops you called the cops yeah that's how you get out you must have been so
14:37scared
14:38yeah terrified I gave this person a chance to leave they did not and I was like fuck no man
14:46okay I have to
14:48call 911 so after this aired you didn't hear from this person no no were you worried about that it
14:58definitely occurred you know I thought how do I say this you don't know what someone will do you know
15:06you just don't know and if they've shown you a certain pattern of behavior who's to say that it won't
15:11escalate uh-huh so it definitely was a concern of mine you had said in the therapy session that
15:17your mom didn't know about the abuse did you talk to her before the show aired no my mother mom
15:29you're
15:29the most clutch mother ever my mom is terrible at everyday shit she shows up in crisis like no
15:37other thank you mommy um how did she show up she texted me she said Erica I'm so sorry I
15:43am so sorry
15:44for you and she did not chastise me why didn't you come to me how could you not say anything
15:50she was so
15:51cool and so loving and I just cannot thank her enough for that who in the circle knew about this
15:58well the three of us were going to go on a trip they were supposed to come to Aspen with
16:02me
16:03and leave that day and then we couldn't leave at the right time and I panicked and I said I
16:12I need
16:12to leave town and I told them why and I want to say you and I spoke privately and you
16:18go Erica why
16:18didn't you say anything and I said indeed the level of shame the level of shame that comes with this
16:24but you know what I realized through this DV shame it also brought up a whole lot of other shame
16:31shame about Tom you know I I walked on ice a lot with Tom like looking back at it you
16:38know it's
16:38always the nice it was constantly an interrogation it was constantly you know don't say the wrong
16:45battle you know do you think he was emotionally abusive to you Tom yeah and financially abusive
16:57and yeah you know Tom one time did not talk to me for six weeks that's and we lived in
17:04the same
17:05house that's crazy since that's such emotional you know as sweet as Tom could be is as vicious as Tom
17:13could be were you nervous about appearing on camera with him were you oh yes you were yes because what
17:22if I said the wrong thing right mm-hmm but he never thought I'd get on the show I remember
17:29him telling me
17:30after my first interview you're not going to get this job oh that's nice then when I said oh you
17:34know I got the job what an ass it was and he was kind of like you got the job
17:38well he's not going to
17:40tell me no you know so I came on the cast when I think back about your first few seasons
17:49on the show
17:49he would come around when you were performing and he would play this part of this like proud
17:57husband starry-eyed husband yeah I'm really proud of you were you yeah thank you that was cool thank
18:06you I appreciate that you know how many times I've wondered how much of that was an act oh in
18:11the
18:11moment did you wonder you know you want to believe that your partner loves and supports you but you
18:18know when it was fucked up which is it's very obvious when you said to me I didn't like it
18:24that Tom
18:24didn't come see you on Broadway yeah I did like how could you miss I was yeah what he also
18:29did not
18:29read my book I remember yeah and by the way you were cleaning up that mess on the couch and
18:35I was
18:35saying to you I think that's weird and you were like do you what does Tom think he hasn't read
18:42it
18:42either no one's read it no one's read it in my family I think that's weird yeah what's weird about
18:48it I was writing for him very hard yeah having that hindsight in being able to look at it you
18:54know I was uh you know I was in the in the Tom Girardi influence you told Sutton that you
19:02don't
19:02believe that visiting Tom will give you closure no I do not especially since he may not even remember
19:08who you are if there was one question that you could ask him what would it be
19:31you told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom will give you closure no I do not
19:37especially since he may not even remember who you are if there was one question that you could ask
19:42him what would it be wow that's a good question why why why did you throw me out like that
20:02you know because if you think about it like I'm in an almost impossible situation I'm swimming under
20:11all of these lawsuits and the 26 million dollar thing has been for years they sued me for that
20:17right away and that's coming up yeah worst possible case you have found that you owe somebody 25 million
20:26dollars what the hell do you do then file for bankruptcy you can file for bankruptcy or you
20:31can fight it out in court and you can duke it out you know you can go to trial you
20:37can cut a deal
20:38you can die in the streets I have no idea Dorit in Italy you questioned whether Erica was actually going
20:48through a fuck ton she's going through fuck time we're all going through fuck time Rachel you're going
20:55through a fuck time surely you knew that she was going through stuff so what did you mean by that
21:04so
21:05you know first of all when I was in Italy I had a lot on my mind we had been
21:11talking a lot the three weeks
21:13leading up to Italy and there was no mention of the trial coming up in fact the first time I
21:19heard
21:19it was in the Hamptons when Rachel saw it in the tabloids Erica and I never spoke about it so
21:26that was
21:28not even the top of my mind if I'm not having the conversation I'm not thinking about it your reaction
21:34was on the one hand I can see why she's got her own problems and she's very self-involved on
21:40the other
21:40hand I've been talking about this shit for six years so not really yeah I've been going through
21:45it this case has been around a long time but I also don't expect you to be keeping up with
21:50every
21:50fucking thing I'm doing however we have talked about it and whether we talked about it five months
21:55ago or two years ago we're close yeah that's why it hurts I love you and I'm scared for you
22:06I don't want to overload my friends all the time well I'm sorry you're going through it but we also
22:12shouldn't have to mention it all the time to have our friends be sympathetic right we're all going
22:20through stuff um so Kyle you said Dorit never once asked about how you're doing this year ladies does
22:28anyone feel like Dorit took the time to ask about their lives or was she in her own moment well
22:35I clearly say yeah right yeah that I didn't ask Kyle how no me you said he well just so
22:42you know
22:43and Kyle doesn't talk about her life that's not and she doesn't I listen I don't talk about my
22:49separation as much as you but I'm also not asked you know I have had stuff going on too and
22:54I do feel
22:55that you are so wrapped up in your own situation that you're not realizing that other people are
23:00going through a lot of stuff well she said that at the most is going through you know the fertility
23:03and what Erica is going through and Sutton everybody here sorry and it didn't feel like
23:07you were sorry Bose please oh yeah no I don't think I was part of the question no no she
23:12said
23:13everyone has stuff going on so wait you're suggesting you're suggesting that I don't care oh
23:19trust me I'm not suggesting you don't care about Bose I'm saying we all have stuff but I'm a very
23:26very
23:26empathetic person in fact I don't think there's a single person here that would suggest that I
23:32wouldn't be interested or care about things that other people are going through so I resent that
23:38I always have thought that about you I just think what you're going through right now has made you
23:42less like that I know that everyone has stuff going on in their lives and my point was I think
23:48that you
23:48are so in the zone with your issues that you're not thinking about that with other people right and
23:53I'm telling you you're wrong okay okay this year as I have said multiple times yes I know you were
24:01going through it so I was overwhelmed but when I got to Italy yes there was it was a different
24:07ball
24:07game okay I want to bring it back to her current relationship it's been how long uh since June July
24:14uh like nine months yeah yeah that's great thank you how are things going in this nice thank you so
24:21much it's good has your son met him yes and what does your son think oh my god you're talking
24:25to like
24:26the ultimate GI Joe my son's probably more in love with this man than I could ever be wow let's
24:32call him GI John instead of right GI John that's a good nickname that's funny how has what happened to
24:41you impacted who you are in your current relationship I really enjoy the man that I'm dating and so I
24:49don't have those same concerns you feel safe I do you feel safe things seem to be going well day
24:55by
24:55day by day we're gonna leave it there we'll be right back I need everyone to step out please we
25:01gotta go we got an hour that's the Chanel makeup kit that you gave me three minutes ago three did
25:07I
25:07give you that makeup kit for your for that that Chanel cosmetic bag sure did I thought so that's how
25:14much you've meant to me same what this is happening you get what you get some weird shit Erica
25:29coming up I can afford to spend four thousand dollars being judged especially from you out of
25:36people by the way I'm not in the same financial position as you I'm sorry
25:44we are back with the real housewives of Beverly Hills last year Dorit iconically dragged a cigarette
25:51but this season her friends warned her against dragging PK too hard in public and as Dorit sought to be
25:59unburdened financially via an exciting new book deal she couldn't help but feel like Kyle was reading
26:06right from PK's playbook watch this when I saw PK kissing that sheen version of Dorit first I rolled
26:14my eyes then I threw up a little the next day you filed it was that day you know I'm
26:21hearing like
26:22complete the opposite that Dorit is putting him through a really hard time making it hard for him
26:26to see the kids last year she was saying things that you know obviously came out you know how he's
26:31parenting and things like that that's it makes me nervous that she's adding fuel to the fire I just don't
26:37think
26:37it's smart to be speaking so negatively about your ex so publicly it's going to make your divorce down the
26:43line
26:43much more difficult do you remember
26:50when you and I had dinner and I said to you I don't think it's a good idea to bash
26:54the father of your children
26:55why do you think I said that remember that I can remember I think when it comes to anything about
27:03this divorce between Dorit and PK Kyle should just be quiet because there's no winning here
27:08is it protecting me I don't know what PK's doing I only care about you you know exactly what PK
27:11is doing Kyle
27:11because you speak to Mo and Mo speaks to PK what you have kicked off and started is what's really
27:18going to come back and kick me in the ass throw up Dorit
27:23okay so Dory you said that what Kyle is doing uh is going to come back and bite you in
27:29the ass
27:29has that happened oh yeah in what way well PK was sending me clearly Kyle was relaying information
27:37to Mo about me in the season and PK was taunting me uh towards the end of the season saying
27:44apparently
27:44um you're not doing so well apparently you know I didn't say anything about that oh he just I mean
27:51PK just poof got it out of the sky he's a psychic no someone's saying something it's not me okay
27:57well
27:57anyway so you can't more than that I can tell you that now that it's listen so sick you have
28:02to be
28:03you know for somebody who's so concerned if she doesn't realize that suggesting that I am erratic
28:11not once thinking she's in an acrimonious divorce I'm not in your situation I filed for divorce
28:18telling me you told me once in private that's why I was telling you don't fuel the fire so then
28:22why do
28:22you think fueling the fire by suggesting that I am erratic by making sure I already said that was the
28:28wrong choice of words but he's going to hear this too Kyle making it a storyline yeah and you know
28:34what you didn't see is that they were having that conversation with me as well and that part
28:37wasn't shown you missed it last night I lost Dorit I'm not kidding for like 45 minutes where did you
28:44find her she was in the fucking smoking section outside like but but here's the thing had I known
28:49there was a smoking section that would have been the first place I looked she'd disappear sometimes
28:54but like you can't do that I had a fucking heart attack like you can't do that you keep saying
28:59this
28:59so I'm going to go to each and every one Amanda did you go to Kyle and say Dorita's acting
29:05erratic
29:05manic did you go to her no she didn't say okay did you go to Kyle Dorit that's it yeah
29:11that's
29:11not what I'm saying those were my words to me I used my words that I already told you but
29:16you don't
29:16listen that I misspoke with that word I also related it to my own experience and I even said
29:22this I even said this a number of times I equated it to how I felt after my separation that
29:29I was
29:29I can tend to get OCD and you know like all over the place like I I mean I get
29:35very ADHD and I'm
29:37like not clear and you know maybe working out too much and like not focused and like all over the
29:42place and scattered that's what I meant and it became this big huge thing that it shouldn't have
29:46been the word erratic a big huge thing Kyle because you went because you made it it's not that big
29:51a fucking deal why it's a big deal Bo's talked about her financial concern she came and she told
29:56me never mind leave Bo's out of it point is this Kyle you know you're trying to just focus on
30:00me and
30:00make me look at when I wasn't saying things rather than trying to come back or mean about you
30:05okay either mutual conversations do me a favor let's stick with one thing right now I'm making
30:11one point okay I spent four thousand dollars in one of Rachel's friend's shops that they cleared
30:18for us to shop nobody bought anything but me I didn't want us to go into that shop and not
30:24buy
30:24anything they had cute things I can afford to spend four thousand dollars I'm very lucky to yes being
30:31judged by you having you go and speak to the girls the group about oh that's a lot of money
30:37she's
30:37spending Kyle especially from you let me ask you a question let me ask you by the way I'm not
30:43in the
30:43same financial position as you I'm sorry how so that's one financial position well the house
30:50is being foreclosed on because anyway to mo and most people know because it's it was in the news
30:58okay so I just I really hope to God things stay amicable with you mo I really do and I
31:03hope to God
31:03nothing turns me too but if and when it does and you're dealing with what I have had to deal
31:09with
31:10maybe maybe it'll you'll find it difficult to sit in rooms and conversations when you're bursting at
31:17the seams and you want to actually be talking to your girlfriends and have a little bit of support only
31:22to have people either judging you talking behind your back or suggesting I don't know more like that
31:29I'm so surprised um Mimi from Dallas said it was disappointing to see Mo downplaying PK's drinking
31:36like it's no big deal oh my god and even admitting that he drinks with him that's called an enabler
31:42I want him to be involved but he has to show up clear-headed he's always been clear-headed Mo
31:47he started drinking again if I go to dinner with him he's ordering you know a glass of wine maybe
31:53two
31:54we're not sitting there pounding it he didn't stop drinking for a year because just for a
31:59casual thing he stopped drinking because he needed to stop drinking there's always two sides to every
32:05story that's such a guy that's called guys that's such a bro oh no that's not called guys that's what
32:11dudes do he's not he's not a babysitter he came in as a soldier Mo doesn't have a problem and
32:19if Mo
32:19really really really cared about him Mo would be saying to him listen buddy you know what let's slow
32:26down I've seen guys at their darkest point and none of their friends until they are literally
32:33I want to stick up for the men oh sorry I love men Andy so do I I just moving
32:42on to your finances
32:43last year on this stage uh we talked about the news that your home had gone into pre-foreclosure
32:49you said at the time that PK had resolved it yes or so I thought by the way however just
32:56this week
32:57there are new reports indicating the house is in trouble again with a debt of over eight hundred
33:03thousand dollars it is in pre-foreclosure and PK hadn't been paying the mortgage could you downsize
33:10it's not it's not about staying in the house yeah it's about I believed he was paying the mortgage
33:15oh which is wrong yes and so I'm blindsided now listen it's my fault as well because at this point
33:22I shouldn't trust or believe without checking but were you checking monthly that it was being paid
33:27no PK is saying he's going to bring the house current then I'm going to put the house on the
33:33market and find a house for the kids and I this is the plan right now thank you okay but
33:39it could
33:39change okay from what I've experienced anything can change right like maybe he doesn't bring the
33:46house current but you need to get in a situation where you can be flexible I know exactly what I
33:51have
33:51to do even before this news people were shocked and concerned about your lack of knowledge about
33:59your finances oh yeah I want to clear something up because you made a statement that I outsourced my
34:07financial well-being well-being to a man and it didn't go well
34:31maybe she's intimidated because I'm young and successful and I'm not financially dependent on
34:37a man and she outsourced her financial well-being to a man and it didn't go well PK was coming
34:43out of a
34:43bankruptcy when I met him uh-huh him and I built everything together okay so that statement not only
34:50was it inaccurate it was offensive does feel like you're also insulting a lot of women who decided
34:57to have a child and raise their kids and not make money that's how it that's how it feels but
35:02you
35:02can have a man be in charge of money and still know what's going on with your money and you
35:06not make
35:06the money personally and that can be a totally wonderful life I thought you were talking about
35:10me and I was I thought you were talking about but I can say I mean but a lot of
35:13people can put
35:14their I know I'm shocked I was like she doesn't know me at all what I would want for all
35:19women and all
35:20of us is to know what's going on with our money and I don't think not knowing is a good
35:23plan I
35:23agreed but I could see how that would be hurtful and I'm sorry so as we close out Dori what
35:29is the
35:29latest on your divorce proceedings listen every time you ask me how are things with you and PK
35:34I really want to be saying we're in a great place great but you know what it wasn't the truth
35:41right now things thank God good after the kids birthdays this is the first time in almost two years
35:46Andy so today as we sit here today things are better yes good thank God okay good that's by
35:52the way the most important and I've been waiting for you to ask me and I couldn't wait to tell
35:56you
35:57that's great about it that's great all right well this season money queen Amanda Francis was the new
36:03girl on the block even though she lived on a very familiar block in Kyle's old Bel Air house
36:10but some people thought this self-proclaimed breadwinner spent a little too much time
36:16buttering herself up while only offering crumbs about her career and her traumatic past watch
36:25I'm best known for my best-selling book rich as fuck which helps women redefine their relationship
36:30with money and manifest more into their lives she's getting married too what's your date 10 10 26
36:36oh that sounds good oh people say you can't have it all and I do I do have it all
36:43so I'm the breadwinner I
36:44always have been but he's very motivated to be able to take care of me I love being the fucking
36:49breadwinner
36:50I really do love it it was my money I should be clear when I bought it I mean we
36:54have renovated
36:55it together but I did buy it yeah sorry why would you share that that doesn't like add value to
37:02the
37:02conversation you know I found that I had a gift around like the energetic part of money I have no
37:10formal business experience and but I was like let's make this a personal development brand what is this
37:17fruit fruit mess we're talking about I have all the staff 80% of people who buy a course buy
37:22a
37:22second course I have less than a 3% refund rate which is unheard of in my industry that is
37:27a very
37:27very low amount of people wanting refunds on digital products so here's the problem Amanda you are
37:31defending your business instead of telling us what you actually do the baseline of Amanda's defense
37:37mechanism whenever she gets criticism is that she's insecure I went looking up her books and I see this
37:43blog that says I was in a cult I'm sorry what do you think I'm fake I think that you
37:49are not being
37:49clear about your life I can't have a life that looks good and feels good your life is not pure
37:55how do they expect me to be more open when they put me down and question everything I do at
38:00every
38:00turn she's built a cult she walked away from one and she built one this has got to stop
38:13all right so Amanda not since Camille Grammer season one have I seen someone enter this group
38:20and light up the audience so let's start with the positive shall we yes Maura from New Hampshire said
38:28you know what I love about Amanda she's got all the ladies activated and she barely had to try
38:33to real reality said Amanda has cute as family and a very hot husband I love this for her um
38:39speaking
38:40of your hot husband I saw that the two of you got married yeah congratulations you had your first of
38:45two ceremonies yeah at 9 9 25 we have a courthouse wedding and the big is you coming in on
38:52the helicopter
38:53and him coming on in the horse yeah that's 10 10 26 yeah wow so on the other hand many
39:01fans were
39:01taken aback by how you speak about your husband Nora from Topeka said does Amanda realize every time
39:08she talks about her husband she makes him sound like a freeloader okay Eddie's not a freeloader
39:13he has a job he owns a company he works he's a wonderful man he's a good good good good
39:19man he
39:19takes care of me in a million ways every day he knows I make more money than him he knows
39:24I'm super
39:25proud of it how does he feel about you putting that on blast though my ex would have died I
39:32don't
39:32think he would consider it on blast did he say anything to you about that he said hey the only
39:37thing was when you paid for the house no no no because I paid for the house listen for what
39:43I do
39:44it is just in me that I want women to know always that they can do it but out of
39:49respect for your
39:50husband right is so adorable but do you wouldn't see that as disrespectful no the house he no the
39:58house I think was fair I did buy it we renovated it together but what did he say this season
40:02he said
40:02what you were gonna say oh he was like that I make more he I make more in a month
40:08than he makes
40:08in a year specifically he's like yes that is true and maybe you didn't have to say it that way
40:14and it is true but do you see how you could plant seeds of contempt that blossom years down the
40:21road
40:22you do plan to be with this man forever right yes right okay so when you say things like this
40:29they get buried and then they fester they could maybe but as the show comes out as he sees articles
40:36as he sees comments we are in bed together talking there's me saying hey I meant this my point to
40:42you
40:42is this everything is on the upswing everything is beautiful the seeds you plant now they will
40:49blossom when shit fucks up and you will you will pay for that later but Amanda I think what he's
40:57saying
40:57right now he's he's not saying that that you're telling me how my husband feels no I'm telling you
41:04that when you emasculate someone who adores you and loves you it doesn't matter how much more money
41:11I've made in my career than my husband if I did I'm still there is not one moment in my
41:16entire life
41:17where I have said that to anyone let alone on television but you don't teach women that they can
41:23make money I don't teach women that they can make money no no you inspire women but it absolutely
41:28inspire women that they can make money but this is my job
41:30like I look at myself a lot with my marriage my husband if he had said those things about me
41:38when we were 40 years old like well I'm the bread maker I bought the house I did this I
41:44did that
41:44and here's little old me like with a baby in my arms like great for you you know but men
41:50have
41:51always traditionally made the money it builds up resentment this isn't a gang up on you this is
41:56life we're being helpful this is I asked him if he felt emasculated he said absolutely not he's
42:01very secure we're saying yes okay so the criticism was not limited to how you speak about Eddie you
42:09were getting critiqued about millennial phrases bragging about designers or the money queen of it all was
42:15there one thing that surprised you that you were hearing from people that you were like really or
42:19the designer stuff a little bit or the bragging stuff a little bit because I thought I was on
42:24a show about rich woman with cool shit I thought there was a lot of designer talk I thought it
42:28was
42:28a part of the show you're on that's not the lead part of the show you're on I didn't think
42:32I was
42:32leading the lead part is your fucking heart and soul and we've had a hard time getting to your heart
42:39and soul ding dong on Twitter said Amanda's need to one-up and compete with everything the women
42:44have acquired is exhausting dirty Jenny on Twitter said what is up with Amanda and mentioning the labels
42:50so much what is she trying to prove you're talking to a Hilton for goodness sake I think everyone brought
42:55up labels often on the show I would bring it up there'd be this like pause silence after but other
43:00people would say this is this this is this we are on a set of Rodeo Drive let me point
43:05out I mean
43:05do you feel like you had to do that when you came into this group because I think I think
43:09it came
43:10off like that yes and I saw her use in Sedona saying make sure you get a shot of this
43:15telling
43:15the cameraman to please make sure you get a shot of my Chanel bag you are with sitting on a
43:21couch
43:22no I saw her use in Sedona telling the cameraman to please make sure you get a shot of my
43:46Chanel bag
43:47you are with sitting on a couch I thought it was cute no cannot lead with that shit we are
43:54too old
43:54and too experienced we want you not but I was never I think the misconception that I was some kind
44:01somehow hiding me it felt that way I should stop talking Rachel you said you have a hard time with
44:09Amanda because she acts strong but she plays the victim at the same time I think the conflict that
44:15I've had is what you just said about how you want to teach women and how you want to welcome
44:20in every
44:21room and everyone knows who you are and whatever said I want to walk in everyone over and over who
44:24you said that every room you walk into everyone knows who you are outside of our group I'm in a
44:30world where everyone gets me and everyone loves it all my friends take my courses and everyone has
44:34this foundation of like what Amanda's about and I haven't been a world in a long time where people
44:38didn't know who I was and what I built and like why no I said I'm used to when I
44:44walk into a room
44:44people know who I am and what I do they know my heart they know my okay no no you
44:48didn't follow
44:49it with that but that did not I did I explained it no but in the moment but that's not
44:54what I meant
44:54okay okay that's how you took it it's not how I took it it's what you said so I guess
44:59what I'm
44:59saying is like because when you say those things and not followed by the explanation of why you're
45:04saying it how could I hear it differently right so I'm saying who actually because if you knew who I
45:10if you know who I was and what I do but I know that that's not what I meant but
45:13I don't
45:15we're trying to know you you've rubbed everybody the wrong way it's hard to do that in this group
45:21well I did it there was a lot of I feel uncomfortable I feel unsafe I feel this and
45:28that's very victimy rather than I'm the strong person believing in who I am as a woman and what I
45:36teach and how strong I am and how I lead so guess what don't come at me like that what
45:41are you
45:41talking about not like this doesn't feel good to me you go into victim mode it's just a contradiction
45:47that's all like okay are you the victim or are you uncomfortable or are you unsafe yeah because
45:55life is uncomfortable and that's how you grow we're in uncomfortable with this is show if you're
46:01having fun on this show this show is uncomfortable yes I think it's very uncomfortable and she
46:07obviously is not used to a setting like this which it is a lot well this is not an easy
46:12group to crack
46:13and the audience also noted that Amanda didn't seem to be welcomed with open arms
46:19Tanyan on Twitter said is anyone else finding it cringy how rude everyone's treating Amanda they're not
46:24giving her a chance at all it's screaming jealousy Kyle what's your opinion of this
46:29um well like I said when somebody new comes in I really do have a lot of empathy and you
46:36know
46:36try to make them feel comfortable and I can sort of after this many years see why someone acts a
46:42certain way or behaves a certain way and you know maybe someone's not your cup of tea you know that's
46:47fine that's one thing but I don't think there's a reason to be unkind right like in Kyle's defense
46:54she's always been the ambassador but I mean also you know it just felt like um
47:01well listen I mean somebody had no way to agree Bo's doesn't agree Bo's would disagree with that
47:07I was very nice to you I'm kidding I'm kidding but by the way Bo's I've been nothing but nice
47:11to you
47:11nothing but nice to you and part of it is I'm kidding right because I know and we talked about
47:16but are you and I have been so kind for two years you have been very kind and last year
47:23what I said was
47:24that I found you cold yes because you were holding because you were holding back things from me which
47:31is fine but it doesn't mean that like I felt a warm blanket but I feel I feel like we
47:36keep growing
47:36I don't want to go back I want to bring it back to Amanda and I want to move on
47:40to your business
47:41Amanda you did an interview where you said Bo's tried to create a personal development brand it did
47:46not go well she's losing money on her courses she told me so let's talk about this because when in
47:52the
47:52hell did I tell you that I was losing money on my business that is crazy in the vineyard girl
47:59I did
47:59not tell you that why would I have told you that because let's just consider our relationship at that
48:05point let's pretend for one second that I was losing money which I'm not why would I confide that
48:11in you it wasn't a confiding moment it was essentially saying if I'm losing money on courses
48:16there's no way you can be making money on courses and not be doing something wrong that doesn't make
48:21any sense Amanda that's what you said it's not what I said I think they have it on camera and
48:25they don't because I didn't say that the online workshopping that's that's not what I do for work
48:31you know what I mean but I'm so curious about it because we have the inner the interlock yeah yeah
48:35you said I don't need to make money from this I don't right I lose money on it yeah well
48:39I yeah
48:40and with that but that's okay with me because that's a choice I made and additionally I'll just let
48:44you know because I do need to clarify this comparison between our online courses you have
48:50an online business I don't have an online business I have a teaching course based on a class I taught
48:55at Harvard for three semesters it gives people the opportunity to understand the keys I did not have
49:02as a business person so that they understand how to negotiate for better raise ask for more promotions
49:08they understand how to present in a boardroom and so it for me it's not about making money my point
49:15is that my class is to open the door for people who can't go to Harvard you are promoting your
49:21businesses and setting up your margins so you can be rich as fuck yeah that is not my intention
49:27it's a charitable venture absolutely giving back so by the way that is not failure
49:32I didn't say it was a failure yes you did
49:39next week the reunion continues Jennifer Tilly talked to me about this dress this is my face
49:46on the front of it I see that will you be asking for half of the agency half of the
49:52time did he realize
49:53that you told me that Amanda took out a two million dollar loan just before she started filming
49:58well yeah you did you want to talk about the past two years when we haven't been friends
50:04exactly it stop saying that we are friends
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