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00:05From 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York,
00:09it's Late Night with Seth Meyers.
00:12The night, home of Domingo.
00:15Star of Running Point, actor Scott MacArthur.
00:18An all-new, closer look.
00:25And now, Seth Meyers.
00:28Good evening, everybody. I'm Seth Meyers.
00:30This is Late Night. We hope you're doing well.
00:32And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:34When asked today by the New York Post
00:36whether the U.S. and Iran could hold a second round of peace talks
00:40as soon as Friday,
00:41President Trump said in a text message,
00:44quote,
00:47And it is very funny to give the most noncommittal answer
00:50and also sign it President DJT.
00:53He might as well have said,
00:55I'm the leader of the free world and I have no idea.
00:58How crazy is that?
01:02Hours after he said the U.S. military
01:03was raring to resume its bombing campaign,
01:06President Trump announced yesterday
01:08that he would extend the ceasefire with Iran.
01:11This guy gives out more mixed messages
01:13than a Los Angeles parking sign.
01:17President Trump said in a post yesterday on Truth Social
01:20that Iran is, quote,
01:21collapsing financially.
01:22Oh, they are?
01:24I had to split an Uber to work today
01:27with Fallon and Kelly Clarkson.
01:33And I'm the only one they won't let sing in the car.
01:37During an interview yesterday with CNBC,
01:40President Trump said that he is very careful
01:42walking up and down stairs because he knows that if he falls,
01:45it will be the biggest news story.
01:46Maybe, maybe not.
01:48Really depends on which stare.
01:54Donald Trump Jr.'s fiancée Bettina Anderson
01:56held a bridal shower last weekend at Mar-a-Lago
01:59and the theme was Enchanted Garden,
02:01while the theme of Don Jr.'s bachelor party
02:04was getting our story straight.
02:10In a new interview, former RNC co-chair Lara Trump
02:13said that the last text message she received from President Trump
02:16was a video of a bombing that the White House put out,
02:19while the last text message Tiffany received
02:22was,
02:22Enjoy Kindergarten!
02:31The New York Times has published a theory
02:32that the New York Mets are on a losing streak
02:34following a photo op between the team's mascots
02:37and Mayor Zoran Mamdani.
02:39Well, it wouldn't be the first time
02:40a photo with Mamdani has set off a losing streak.
02:45The Athletic recently published a list of the best things
02:48to eat this season at MLB stadiums,
02:50which include a chow mein burrito at Dodger Stadium,
02:53chicken and churros at Wrigley,
02:55and at Citi Field, a gun.
03:02That was 100% the accurate reaction to that joke.
03:07Ukrainian officials reportedly considering renaming
03:09the contested Donbass region that Russia is fighting for
03:13Donnyland after President Trump
03:15in order to get his attention.
03:17And for similar reasons,
03:18I'm thinking of changing the name of our show
03:20to Lorne Night with Seth Meyers.
03:26Maybe I'll watch that.
03:30The restaurant chain Red Lobster announced this week
03:33that it will offer its Endless Shrimp promotion,
03:35even though Endless Shrimp sounds less like a promotion
03:38and more like a curse by a witch.
03:43And finally, a Chinese car company recently filed a patent
03:46for an in-vehicle toilet.
03:48So what? In America, we have ones
03:50where the whole thing is a toilet.
03:53And that was a monologue, everybody.
03:57We got a great show of you tonight.
04:00You know him from films such as Sing Sing
04:02and The Color Purple, as well as Euphoria,
04:05whose highly anticipated third season
04:06is airing now on HBO and HBO Max.
04:08He's also starring as Joe Jackson.
04:10In the upcoming biopic Michael,
04:12which is in theaters and IMAX this Friday,
04:14Coleman Domingo is back on the show.
04:16Our friend Coleman is back.
04:19You have seen him on shows like
04:23The Righteous Gemstones and Roosters.
04:25He's currently starring in Running Point,
04:27whose second season drops April 23rd on Netflix.
04:30He's been my friend for almost 25 years.
04:33Scott MacArthur is back.
04:35Before we get to all that.
04:38Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a new all-time low
04:42as more members of his administration
04:44scramble for the exits.
04:45For more on this, it's time for A Closer Look.
04:51I am not a numbers guy.
04:54Here's a good proof of that.
04:55I recently helped my son with his math homework
04:57and it went so badly, they held me back a year.
05:00Fourth grade hasn't been terrible.
05:02Last week, I grew my own beans.
05:05So with my mathematical limitations in mind,
05:08help me out here.
05:09Are these numbers good or bad?
05:11Only 33% of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing,
05:15while I feel 67% disapprove,
05:19which means he's underwater by 34 points.
05:22He's in an all-time low and he's down five points
05:25from the last month.
05:26Trump is having a worse April than the New York Mets.
05:29Obviously, what's going on with the Mets begs the question.
05:32Was their season officially jinxed when Mr.
05:34and Mrs. Mets visited our set on opening day?
05:37Look, it's not like this show has winner's mojo.
05:40We've been nominated for and lost 11 Emmys.
05:4211.
05:43To give you an idea how many that is,
05:4511 is one less than the Mets' 12-game losing streak.
05:50As of taping, true story, our security guards,
05:52John and Jim, seen here,
05:54forgetting that history repeats itself,
05:56think this is happening because the Mets gave cue card Wally
05:59a custom Mets jersey with his name on it,
06:02despite the fact that Wally is a Yankees fan.
06:04And to break the curse,
06:06they believe they have to burn the jersey,
06:08and the craziest part is they only think it'll work
06:11if they burn it while Wally is wearing it.
06:15The point is, the wheels have completely fallen off
06:18the MAGA wagon.
06:19Trump poll numbers are in free fall.
06:21Republicans are losing the gerrymandering war
06:23they started with Democrats.
06:24MAGA pundits are publicly turning on the president.
06:27And now another Cabinet Secretary is out.
06:29U.S. Labor Secretary Lori Chavez
06:31remember stepping down.
06:33The White House says she is taking a job
06:34in the private sector.
06:35She was also, though it's important to note,
06:37facing an internal investigation into possible misconduct
06:39and allegations of inappropriate behavior.
06:41This makes her now the third Cabinet member
06:44to leave the Trump administration in recent weeks.
06:46Wow, it's bad when the Labor Secretary
06:48can't even keep her job.
06:50Jobs was her jobs.
06:53So now that there's three Cabinet officials out
06:55in less than two months, the administration
06:57has the same turnover as a college-town Chick-fil-A
07:00at the end of a semester.
07:02Soon it's just going to be Trump wandering around by himself
07:04trying to keep squirrels out of his ballroom.
07:07He and J.D. Vance are going to go full Gray Gardens.
07:11But even more shocking than the Labor Secretary's
07:14abrupt resignation is the investigation
07:16that preceded it, which involved alleged misconduct
07:18by the Secretary and her family.
07:21Her departure comes amid multiple allegations
07:24of misconduct and abuse of power by not just her,
07:27but her husband, and apparently her father as well.
07:31Ms. Chavez de Riemer's husband and father
07:35exchanged text messages with young female staff members
07:39at the Labor Department.
07:40In an April 2025 exchange provided to investigators,
07:44Ms. Chavez de Riemer's father wrote to a young female
07:47Labor Department staff member, quote,
07:49hearing you are in town, wishing you would let me know.
07:53I could have made some excuses to get out
07:55and show you around.
07:57Please keep this private.
07:59You know, part of me thinks, oh, maybe that sweet old man
08:02just wants to give a young lady a tour.
08:04And then I remember he signed off, please keep this private.
08:08No dad is ever supposed to say,
08:11please keep this private about anything.
08:13You're supposed to say to your dad, please keep that private.
08:16You know, when he gives what seems like a college-length
08:18dissertation on how attractive he finds the actress
08:21who plays Beth Dutton on Yellowstone.
08:23And then you're like, stop telling me.
08:25And he's like, oh, so you don't think she's attractive?
08:27And I'm like, I'm just saying you don't have to tell everyone
08:29at the bar mitzvah.
08:31Keep that private.
08:33And that's just a hypothetical, not a real thing
08:35that recently happened.
08:40I just made that up from my imagination,
08:43not from my real memory.
08:47So three Trump cabinet officials are already out,
08:49and a fourth might be on his way.
08:51FBI Director Kash Patel on defense this morning,
08:54denying allegations laid out in a new report
08:56detailing his alleged drinking habits
08:58and absences from the bureau.
09:00This article in The Atlantic cites more than two dozen people,
09:03including unnamed current and former FBI officials,
09:06who allege excessive drinking and erratic behavior,
09:09described as, quote, freakouts from Patel.
09:12Several officials cited say Patel is known for, quote,
09:15obvious intoxication at private clubs,
09:17both here in Washington and in Las Vegas,
09:19and that many staffers are just waiting for the announcement
09:22that Patel is going to be fired from his post,
09:24citing his unreachability and impulsivity.
09:27Generally speaking, you don't want to hear
09:28that the country's top law enforcement official
09:31is known for having freakouts, you know?
09:33When you're the head of the FBI,
09:34you're supposed to be calm and level-headed.
09:36No one wants to tune into a press conference
09:38about a potential threat to the homeland
09:39and hear a guy who looks like this
09:43scream, everyone, run for your lives.
09:46And he always looks like that.
09:49He has resting, run for your lives face.
09:53But the allegations about Patel...
09:58The allegations get even worse than that.
10:00The article also claimed a request for breaching equipment,
10:03normally used by SWAT and hostage rescue teams
10:06to quickly gain entry into buildings,
10:08was made last year because Patel had been
10:10unreachable behind locked doors.
10:13All right, in fairness, we've all been there.
10:14You know, you come home from a hard day at work,
10:16drinking margaritas with Dua Lipa,
10:18and you pass out on the floor in the kids' playroom,
10:21and your wife tries to open the door,
10:22but you locked it because you didn't want anyone
10:24to see you puking in your daughter's Easy-Bake oven.
10:27So your wife has to call the super to break the door down,
10:30and he's a big Russian guy with a thick accent.
10:32And when he enters the room, you wake up,
10:33and you're so scared that you get what's known as cash eyes.
10:42But somehow, that's not the most embarrassing episode
10:46from the story.
10:47On Friday, April 10th,
10:49this FBI director, Kash Patel,
10:50was preparing to leave work for the weekend.
10:52He struggled to log onto an internal computer system.
10:55He quickly became convinced he'd been locked out,
10:58and he panicked, frantically calling aides and allies
11:00to announce that he'd been fired by the White House.
11:03That's according to nine people familiar with his outreach.
11:06Two of these people described his behavior
11:08as a, quote, freak out.
11:10The access problem turned out to, quote,
11:12have been a technical error, and it was quickly resolved.
11:14So he freaked out and told everyone he was fired,
11:17but it turned out it was just a technical glitch.
11:19In fact, one FBI official said of Patel's freakout, quote,
11:22it was all ultimately bull .
11:24And I, for one, think that would make a great title
11:27for the first history textbook about the Trump era.
11:30But Patel has pushed back.
11:34Patel has pushed back on the claims
11:36by suing The Atlantic and denying the story
11:39at a press conference.
11:40Explain the computer login issue.
11:41Just explain the computer login issue.
11:43You were not able to log into the...
11:45Your lawsuit contends that you were not able
11:47to log into the system.
11:48What did you think after you were unable
11:50to log into the system?
11:52Let's have a survey.
11:53How many of you people believe that's true?
11:55I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do.
11:58I mean, I don't know for sure if it's true,
12:00but I definitely believe it's possible.
12:01I mean, we saw you crushing beers in the locker room
12:03after the men's Olympic hockey team won gold.
12:05That definitely looks like a guy
12:07who might not remember his password the next day.
12:10I can definitely imagine you sitting down
12:12at your computer drunkenly crying
12:13because you can't log in.
12:14Why won't the beach ball stop spinning?
12:18But maybe the saddest moment of Patel's press conference
12:21was when he explained his drinking in the locker room
12:23by describing the U.S. men's hockey team as his friends.
12:28I'm like an everyday American who loves his country,
12:30loves the sport of hockey, and champions my friends
12:33when they raise a gold medal and invite me in to celebrate.
12:35Oh, sweetie, no. No, sweetie.
12:38Friends? No, sweetie.
12:40I'm going to say to you what I said to John and Jim
12:42about Mr. and Mrs. Matt.
12:44They're not your friends.
12:47When Trump won the election, MAGA acted
12:49as though they were invincible,
12:51but the last month has proven otherwise.
12:52Trump is at all-time lows
12:54and keeps losing election after election
12:56while his top aides quit or get fired.
12:58Next time a poll comes out showing how much voters dislike him,
13:01Trump's going to tell Fox News...
13:03...please keep this private.
13:04This has been A Closer Look.
13:10We'll be right back with Coleman Domingo, everybody.
13:17For more of Seth's Closer Looks,
13:19be sure to subscribe to Late Night on YouTube.
13:28Our first cast tonight is an Emmy-winning and Tony,
13:32an Academy Award-nominated actor.
13:33You know from films such as Sing Sing,
13:35The Color Purple, and Rustin,
13:37as well as shows like The Four Seasons and Euphoria,
13:40which is airing now on HBO and HBO Max,
13:42with new episodes premiering on Sundays.
13:44He stars as Joe Jackson in the upcoming biopic Michael,
13:47which is in theaters and IMAX this Friday.
13:49Let's take a look.
13:50So, I've decided...
13:55I'm arranging a tour in a live album.
14:02Well, how are we going to tour without Jermaine?
14:04Your brother made his choice when we left Motown and he stayed.
14:07Let him live with it.
14:09The point is, we need to capitalize on Michael's album.
14:13So, we're going to do a bunch of songs...
14:15Joseph, I...
14:18I...
14:19I need to think.
14:20No, sir.
14:22I told you what to think.
14:25You got a problem with that, Michael?
14:26We need to have a reasonable conversation about this, Joseph.
14:30You think now, because you're a big superstar
14:32and you got this big hit album,
14:33that you're better than everybody in this house?
14:34Is that it?
14:36You're better than your brothers.
14:38You're mother than me.
14:40Is that it?
14:41Please welcome back to the show, you guys,
14:43Coleman Domingo!
15:02You know what?
15:03I'm, like, embarrassed by what I'm about to tell you,
15:05because I went backstage.
15:06I said hi to you.
15:07Yeah.
15:08You looked amazing.
15:09Well, thank you.
15:09And I was like, you always look great.
15:10I'm like, God, his outfit's amazing.
15:12And now I'm realizing it was just the outfit you showed up in.
15:15It was just your, like, walking around outfit.
15:18It was my pregame for you.
15:18It was your pregame.
15:19Like, your pregame is, like, my winning the World Series.
15:24You look fantastic.
15:25Well, thanks, man.
15:25There was a whole conversation about this outfit
15:26before I came out here.
15:27I'm very happy you wore it.
15:28I'm representing, you know, a movie like Michael.
15:30I couldn't come out in, like, a polo shirt and khakis.
15:33No.
15:33This is why you're in the film and I'm not.
15:37I mean, there's a number.
15:38I think you look great.
15:39You look great.
15:39You look good.
15:40Nobody believes you.
15:43You also looked great briefly.
15:46I just want to touch on a fantastic job at SNL.
15:48Thanks, man.
15:49Just a couple weeks ago.
15:53You certainly presented as very comfortable for a hosting job
15:58that many find uncomfortable.
16:00But did you just enjoy it as much as it seemed?
16:02I think I just kicked into my theater background.
16:05I feel like, you know, I just felt relaxed.
16:07I feel like the most relaxed place I am is on stage, really.
16:10So I feel like I was at home.
16:11And also, the whole team over there, all the writers
16:13and the creatives there, they really make sure they took care of me.
16:16And I really just, I mean, the opening monologue was really sort of me.
16:20Yeah.
16:20And also, just like, I want it to be funny,
16:22but not like, ha-ha funny, but just like,
16:25we're going to be warm and gentle.
16:26I think that, I mean, again, you talked about, you know, vibes,
16:28and that's a real important part of the monologue,
16:30which is just to make everybody feel comfortable before things kick off.
16:33You did a great job.
16:34It was really fun to watch.
16:36Also, great job.
16:37I do want to shout out.
16:38The hair and makeup team completely transformed you into Joe Jackson.
16:43I mean, you know, and I would...
16:45I didn't look like myself.
16:46No, so that's the man himself.
16:48And, I mean, that's incredible.
16:51Yeah, yeah.
16:53So it's not just...
16:54How much prosthetics was it?
16:57It started out with two and a half hours of prosthetics.
17:00And then we got it down to 90 minutes, plus wigs.
17:03But we were moving fast, because they didn't want to keep me
17:05in there for too long.
17:06But it was a great time for me to sort of, you know,
17:08find the Joe Jackson me every day.
17:10But it was fantastic.
17:11Had you done... I'm trying to think.
17:12Have you done a lot of prosthetic work over your career?
17:15No, I haven't done a lot of prosthetics.
17:16I feel like I did, like, you know, usually do wounds
17:18and stuff like that.
17:19Blood coming out of you or something.
17:21Nothing like that.
17:22That was like a full transformation where the first time
17:25I saw myself like that, it was weird.
17:27It's a strange thing when you look in a mirror
17:28and you don't see yourself anymore.
17:30But, I mean, does it help when you're playing somebody
17:31who is so unlike you?
17:33Yeah. I mean, I would imagine, right?
17:34Very much so. It helps you because, you know,
17:35as an actor, you work on the voice and the text and research,
17:39and then suddenly you get all these other elements
17:40and also, I just got to shout out this crew.
17:42I'm... Bill Corso designed the makeup
17:44and Jamie Richmond and Mo Meinhardt and Carla Farmer.
17:48They took care of all of this.
17:49So, therefore, I can just exist and be Joe Jackson.
17:52So, then I worked on the body language and all that stuff.
17:54So, yeah, it was a... It's a team effort.
17:56There... We've talked before when you're here
17:58about you're an accomplished dancer.
18:00You're the kind of guy who will, you know,
18:01you'll break out of dance.
18:02Cut a rug. Yeah, cut a rug.
18:04Joe Jackson kind of famously not known for dancing
18:07in the way that Michael is.
18:08You don't know that? Well...
18:11Did you try to pitch it for the film?
18:13He had a lot of kids, so I'm sure he could dance.
18:15Yeah, that's true.
18:16Exactly. That's a very good point.
18:17But no dancing in the film. Did you try to...
18:19Was this an argument you made to Antoine Fuqua?
18:22Were you like, you know... No, I didn't make that at all,
18:24because I was with Jafar Jackson...
18:26Yes. ...who is outstanding.
18:28And Michael Jackson's nephew.
18:30Michael Jackson's nephew. Yeah.
18:31And he is, like, the incarnate of Michael.
18:33Yeah. He really is.
18:34It is like being with Michael.
18:35What was it like? I mean, again, being on set,
18:38watching him dance like Michael, I mean, that is something,
18:40when you think about a film and somebody playing Michael,
18:43that's the part you think must be the hardest.
18:44Listen, the first time I saw him, Antoine Fuqua,
18:47our director, asked me to come out on set.
18:49I was there for a makeup test.
18:50I went out to meet my sons. He said, come see your sons.
18:53And I saw them performing a number from the Victory Tour.
18:56And immediately, I thought that I was watching
18:59the Jacksons back in the 1980s.
19:01It was wild to see.
19:03So much so, like, they even, you know,
19:04Jafar came and ran up to me with sweat dripping down,
19:06and he hugged me and said, hi, father.
19:08And in that moment, I was Joe Jackson, and that was my son.
19:12That's incredible. Yeah.
19:14Could you, if they had asked you to moonwalk in the movie,
19:17could you, Coleman Domingo, had done that?
19:19Listen.
19:23I'm from West Philly, born and raised.
19:25There's nothing we can't do. Exactly.
19:28I can moonwalk.
19:29Now, did you learn how to moonwalk?
19:31I mean, was Michael Jackson the first person?
19:34Was anyone...
19:34He's the first person we saw do the moonwalk.
19:36Got it. So you had to learn it off Michael?
19:38Yeah, we learned it off of Mike.
19:39Got it. Mike taught us everything.
19:40Got it. Yeah. Do you know how to moonwalk?
19:42I can walk backwards.
19:44Okay. Want me to show you?
19:46Yeah, show me how to moonwalk.
19:47Are you going to do it, too?
19:47I'll do it if you show me how to do it.
19:52We got to look at the feet, so...
19:54You got to go. It's got to...
19:55Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
19:59You got this?
20:00But I feel like...
20:02But if you watch, like, this is just as fast.
20:06If it's about getting weight.
20:08That's, like, the laziest way possible.
20:10Oh, you got it. Is that actually...
20:12Put some stank on it.
20:14Because Mike did this for the stand, too. He did this.
20:16I think you are underestimating how little people want
20:19to see me put stank on anything.
20:22I have a lot more questions.
20:24We'll be right back with Coleman after this.
20:38Welcome back, everybody.
20:39We're here with Coleman Domingo, a longtime New Yorker.
20:42Yeah.
20:43And 15 years in the same place, correct?
20:45Yep. I used to live in New York.
20:46And then you...
20:47Is it true that when you left New York,
20:49you just didn't tell anybody you were leaving?
20:50Absolutely. Wow.
20:51So how do you go about doing that?
20:53New Yorkers like that, though.
20:54Everyone judges you when you're about to leave New York.
20:56That's true.
20:56Especially if you're gonna move to California.
20:57100%.
20:58No one likes that. Am I right? No one likes it.
21:00Yeah. And they all act like we...
21:02When you do it, they're like, we knew it.
21:04We knew it. Oh, you're that guy now.
21:06Oh, you like smoothies now or something.
21:09You're like, no, I just want to...
21:10Also, by the way, they sell smoothies in New York.
21:12Yeah, but they act like they only make them...
21:14I know. They're very unfair.
21:16So I had to take things out of my apartment
21:19and move it little by little to L.A.
21:22You were doing it like a duffel bag at a time.
21:24Like one carry-on and one checked bag at a time.
21:27I really was. I don't know what it was,
21:28but I really felt like people thought
21:29that I was gonna become something else.
21:31Yeah. And, like, that was a bad thing.
21:33But so it didn't go well.
21:35I'm gonna say about people...
21:37I've known many people who love New York more than anything,
21:40and then they move to L.A., and they're very happy.
21:42Yeah. Have you been happy
21:43with your transition so far?
21:44It's funny. I almost feel shy about saying it,
21:46but I'm very happy living in L.A.
21:47I live a very peaceful life.
21:48I think that that's ultimately what everybody who goes there says.
21:51But when you're in New York, when you're in your 20s and 30s,
21:53it's great because you walk out and you're like,
21:55Ooh, anything can happen.
21:56Yeah. I'm 56 now. I don't want that anymore.
21:58No. Exactly.
21:59No, it's a... Well, you think the same thought,
22:01but a different way. You're like, anything could happen.
22:03Yeah. Oh, my God!
22:04Yeah. So I get it.
22:05I don't want that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:06No, I'm enjoying...
22:07Like, I think having young kids here is helpful.
22:10Yeah.
22:11Like, I like seeing it through their eyes,
22:13but I don't like seeing it through my eyes anymore.
22:14The coolest kids are New York kids.
22:16Oh, they're already so cool.
22:18They're so much cooler than me.
22:19Way cooler than all of us.
22:20Yeah, because, I mean, they've seen stuff.
22:22Like, the stuff they've seen,
22:23I don't think I saw until I was, like, 35.
22:24Yeah. Right.
22:26And then they're really dry about it.
22:27When they're 12, like, yeah, look at that dude on the subway,
22:29like, doing back flips, you know?
22:31Yeah. Clown outfit on.
22:32Oh, no. It's unbelievable.
22:34There was a...
22:35My son was on a subway, and there was, like, an artist,
22:37like, just an incredible visual artist.
22:39He was just standing with, like, a welder's helmet
22:41that was painted, and my kid was like,
22:43can I put that on? He's like, yeah.
22:45And he just, like, puts on a welder's helmet.
22:46They, like, go two stops, like, talking.
22:48I'm like, only in New York would this happen.
22:49Exactly. Exactly.
22:52Euphoria, congratulations. It's back.
22:54Thank you. Thank you.
22:54You, too.
22:58This is... You made a joke about it in the monologue,
23:01but, like, people who love Euphoria,
23:03that is a unique audience.
23:04Are they... Have people been addressing you
23:06about how happy they are that it's back?
23:08They are happy about it.
23:09First of all, they were pissed off that it took so long
23:10for us to come back.
23:11And then they're very happy that it's back.
23:13And then there's a lot of conversation about that it's back,
23:15but it's... I don't know.
23:18It's all complicated because it's such a wild and crazy
23:22and beautiful show.
23:25And everyone wants their show.
23:27You know what I mean?
23:27Well, it's interesting because I feel like one of the reasons
23:30people were drawn to it in the first place,
23:32it was very unique and unpredictable.
23:33And so then it's funny when people are then upset
23:36that it continues to be unpredictable.
23:38Like, they all want to...
23:39That's exactly it. That's exactly it.
23:40They're like, no, no, at this point,
23:41I want to be able to predict it.
23:42It's like, no, that's never going to happen.
23:44Well, in the center of the show is an addict.
23:46Yeah. So it has the personality of an addict.
23:48It will constantly change and shift.
23:49That's true. You know what I mean?
23:50I haven't thought about it that way.
23:50It won't be reliable. Yeah, that's true.
23:52Right, exactly. Right.
23:54Zendaya, you've talked about this, but it is really...
23:56I mean, it's the craziest thing.
23:58You first interacted with her.
23:59I mean, obviously, she saw you on stage
24:01when she was five years old, six years old.
24:03She was five years old, yeah.
24:03That's unbelievable.
24:04So I'm responsible for Zendaya's whole career.
24:06No, no, no.
24:07I'm totally kidding.
24:09I'll take that credit.
24:10She watched me and decided, oh, I got to be like Coleman.
24:13But you guys didn't...
24:14You figured that out on set, right?
24:16When we were on set, first season,
24:17we were just sitting with some downtime.
24:19We talked about our roots in the Bay Area,
24:21how she grew up there, and I started my career there.
24:23And then we found out that she would watch a show of mine,
24:26like, over and over again.
24:27She was, like, five or six years old.
24:29I saw this cute, curly-haired girl watching,
24:31I think it was All's Well But Ends Well,
24:33night after night, and I was like,
24:34who is this kid?
24:36And I was just intrigued by it.
24:37And then I found out later that that was Zendaya.
24:39That's unbelievable.
24:40So we've been connected for years,
24:41and I think she's one of the most remarkable actresses we have.
24:44Yeah, you never get bored watching her.
24:47Different choices all the time.
24:48I'm sort of in awe of it.
24:49We show up game and ready and loose.
24:51And I love working with her, and I love our friendship
24:53and what we do offscreen.
24:55She's just a real awesome girl.
24:56It's very nice to see you guys working together again.
25:01I know, like, in a way that you probably couldn't say anything
25:04about Euphoria Season 3 before it came out,
25:06you're in Disclosure Day, a big new Spielberg movie,
25:09that I'm pretty sure you can't disclose much about, right?
25:12No, I can't disclose anything about it.
25:14I can tell you that it's there,
25:15and I think we had a great time making it.
25:17I think Steven Spielberg is at his very best.
25:20It felt like I was working with a new filmmaker.
25:22That's very exciting.
25:23With his enthusiasm and excitement for what we were going to make.
25:26And it really is about, I think it's a film, another,
25:28it's another film like Michael that you're going to have to see
25:30in theaters, but it really is about our humanity
25:32and what happens if we believe in the possibility
25:36of something bigger than ourselves.
25:37As we talk about biopics, Link in one of my,
25:39a movie that I never get tired of watching,
25:41that was the first time you worked with Spielberg.
25:42Yeah.
25:43Like, what is it like the first time, you know,
25:45obviously any actor has their own role to play
25:48and you want to be prepared, and at the same time,
25:50you knew you were going to work with Steven Spielberg
25:51for the first time.
25:52How do you go into those days?
25:53Listen, I think that every actor will tell you this.
25:54You're going to work with Steven Spielberg,
25:56one of the greatest directors ever.
25:58You go into your research, you go into your study,
26:00you can't prepare enough.
26:02Right.
26:02Because you want to be ready.
26:04And you want to, you don't want to let him down.
26:06He gives you so much faith.
26:07He's got a twinkle in his eye, and you really feel like,
26:09I want to make sure that that spark is always there.
26:12I don't want to see the darkness.
26:13Yeah.
26:14If you don't know, he doesn't have darkness.
26:15He's very sweet.
26:16But you know what I mean, you really want his approval.
26:19You really do, because he has so much faith in you
26:21and the possibility of what you can do.
26:23Well, I can't wait for that.
26:25And congratulations on everything else.
26:27It's so nice to see you, Coleman.
26:28Good to see you, man.
26:29Thank you for bringing the opportunity.
26:30Hey, Gabe.
26:31Coleman Domingo, Michael Peters,
26:33everywhere this Friday, April 24th.
26:34New Euphoria episode Sundays on HBO, HBO Max.
26:38Stick around. Be right back with Scott McArthur.
26:52Our next guest is a very talented actor you know from shows
26:55like The Mick, The Righteous, Gemstones, and Rooster.
26:58He stars in Running Point.
26:59The second season is streaming April 23rd on Netflix.
27:02Let's take a look.
27:03I'll tell the producers that we can't shoot here anymore.
27:05Thank you. Thank you.
27:10Yo. Driving through the old hood.
27:12Figured I'd just pop in.
27:13You live 45 minutes away.
27:14Not a thing.
27:16How my two favorite queens doing, huh?
27:17Should we make some mojitos, have a kiki?
27:19Are you wearing makeup?
27:20Yeah. Charlie, my diva, have a kiki?
27:22Stop saying kiki.
27:23Okay. There's no cameras here.
27:27Are you serious?
27:28I went through full glam for this.
27:30It's like 400 bucks.
27:31Oh, my God. I gotta go.
27:32They did a terrible job.
27:34Are your kids in the car?
27:35It's fine. They have their tablets.
27:37Oh, my God.
27:38Please welcome to the show Scott McArthur, everybody.
27:57I'm so happy you're here.
28:00Well, thank you for having me.
28:01We have known each other for a very long time.
28:03My brother and your brother were roommates in Los Angeles
28:07at a bad house.
28:10It was a bad... It was a good comedy house.
28:13It was a good comedy house. It was very funny people.
28:15A lot of wonderful times were had there.
28:18I remember once saying about it, it was one of the few places.
28:20They couldn't get rid of the rats
28:21because the rats' names were on the lease.
28:24That's true.
28:25That's what it felt like.
28:25The rats paid the rent.
28:26The rats did the grocery shopping.
28:28So, we know a lot of the same people.
28:31And yet, I feel like we kind of missed each other.
28:34Like, right when I was sort of moving out here full-time,
28:36that was when you were moving from Chicago to L.A.
28:39Yeah. I...
28:40We missed each other by a couple months.
28:42I think you came to New York to do SNL.
28:44Yep.
28:45And then I moved in.
28:47I've always thought of myself as Seth 2.0.
28:50Oh, interesting.
28:51Yeah. Yeah, okay.
28:52Yeah, but kind of like the Terminator 2,
28:55but the technology went backwards.
28:57Oh, I see.
28:58Somewhere like Seth 0.2.
29:000.2.
29:02I'm not a numbers guy, Seth.
29:03So, I mean, yeah.
29:05Yeah, it's like I came out of the machine and then was like,
29:07hey, guys, I'm your new roommate.
29:09And they were like, oh, Jesus.
29:10Yeah.
29:11Do you remember the first time we met?
29:13I do. I do.
29:14I was living in the bad house.
29:17Yeah.
29:18And you came to town, and all you guys were going out to dinner
29:22at a restaurant called Genghis Cohen.
29:24Yep, a very, very wonderful Chinese restaurant.
29:27Unbelievable.
29:28It was around the corner from the house.
29:30And I remember what I specifically remember that meal is,
29:33it was you, it was my brother Hayes, your brother Josh,
29:37Ike Barinholtz, Dave Stassen.
29:39And I just remember you guys were so quick.
29:44And it was just like pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
29:45And I just sat there silently, which is rare.
29:49And I remember thinking in the middle of the meal,
29:52like looking around the restaurant and just thinking,
29:53I can't keep up with these guys, but maybe I can work here.
29:57Oh.
29:58Yeah.
29:59You almost applied to be a busboy at Genghis Cohen.
30:02I might have filled out the application.
30:03Yeah, yeah, there you go.
30:05It's worked out very well.
30:06And again, I'm very lucky to know your family.
30:09I was at your brother's wedding.
30:11You were the best man.
30:13Ike Barinholtz spoke at the rehearsal dinner.
30:15Incredibly funny guy.
30:16Super funny. Crushed the toast.
30:19Brought the house down.
30:20And I knew that he knew he did,
30:22because instead of handing the microphone back to me,
30:25he crushed it, he shook his head twice,
30:28and he just flipped the microphone over his shoulder.
30:31It hit me in the chest.
30:33And then I had to sit there and I was like,
30:35thank you, Ike.
30:37Yeah, that was a crazy weekend.
30:39It was a crazy weekend. It was a great weekend.
30:42It was really funny, because, of course,
30:43Ike's brother Johnny also came out.
30:46You know, he's an accomplished actor.
30:47I remember you came out.
30:48And it's funny when, like, younger siblings come out to L.A.,
30:51because, you know, you're like, all right, great.
30:53They're going to try, too.
30:54And it's been amazing how successful you've all been.
30:57But the early days are not a success build.
30:59Can you talk about your headshots,
31:01your first headshots in L.A.?
31:03Uh, yes. It's funny that, uh, yeah.
31:07So, when I got out there, um, look, there's a couple words
31:13you don't want to ever hear from somebody.
31:15And they are, hey, I got a guy who owes me a favor.
31:18Right?
31:19Yeah, that doesn't scream they're skilled.
31:21No, no.
31:22So, I was with my manager, who I'm still with today.
31:26And, um, and Brady said to me, he said,
31:29hey, I got a guy who owes me a favor.
31:30And, uh, you know, he's going to take your headshots for free.
31:33Great. I said, great.
31:34These are not cheap headshots.
31:36Oh, my God, it was like a couple hundred bucks, right?
31:38And then you have to have them printed.
31:39It was before the computer.
31:41It was, um, you know.
31:44Someone would have to etch it into stone.
31:46Yeah, yeah.
31:47You'd have to bring all the stones with you.
31:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:50If your smile was off, they'd, like, joker your smile.
31:53Like, you know.
31:54But, uh, so I called the guy and he said,
31:55oh, yeah, man, I'll take your shots.
31:57Um, he's like, let's meet at Jamba Juice
31:59tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.
32:00And I said, great.
32:01Yeah.
32:02So, I remember I was driving my brother's car.
32:04I still hadn't had a car.
32:05And, uh, and I was thinking, I was like,
32:08why are we meeting at Jamba Juice?
32:10Yeah.
32:11We didn't meet at a coffee place.
32:12Yeah.
32:13I was like, well, he's a juice guy.
32:15And, uh, and we get there.
32:16He's got his camera out.
32:18And I walk in, he's like, he's like, hey, perfect.
32:21He's like, so, first thing I'm gonna do,
32:23I'm gonna shoot you in front of this blue wall.
32:24And then I'm gonna shoot you in front of this yellow wall.
32:27And I'm like, what, are we doing the shots here?
32:29And he goes, he goes, I like the walls.
32:31You know, the walls are all different.
32:32I said, oh, okay.
32:33And he looks at me and he goes,
32:36I want you to wear a red shirt.
32:38And I said, well, I don't have a red shirt.
32:40You know, I probably have, like, one shirt with me.
32:42And he goes, here, do this.
32:43And he just pops off his red T-shirt.
32:46And I...
32:46Is that an operational Jamba Juice?
32:48Or, like, people there for juice?
32:50Oh, yeah.
32:50Yeah, because I could tell,
32:52because everybody who was waiting in line for their juice
32:54is looking at me like, this poor bastard.
32:57You know?
32:58And, uh, so I pop on his red T-shirt,
33:01and we proceed to shoot for an uncomfortably long period of time.
33:06Maybe three hours.
33:07Now, I will say, now I know this is a Jamba Juice,
33:11if I would have seen that, I'm like, that's good.
33:13I like that.
33:15They do have different...
33:17Yeah.
33:19This is my favorite.
33:20I mean...
33:20Yeah.
33:22Well, this was very creative.
33:24If you can see, that's actually a corner
33:26where the yellow wall and the green wall meet.
33:30So...
33:30And I believe the direction on this one was,
33:33give me that big smile.
33:34Yeah.
33:35And then you got a lot of work,
33:36but almost exclusively in Jamba Juice commercials.
33:39Yes. Yeah.
33:40You know, I'm really hoping I get a gift card
33:43from Jamba Juice after this.
33:44I would hope so.
33:45This is great.
33:46I mean, although they're probably like,
33:47oh, everybody's gonna come to take headshots here now.
33:50Did you?
33:52Yeah.
33:53Congrats on Running Point.
33:54This is a show about a fictional L.A. basketball team.
33:58And the siblings who are sort of running the team,
34:01you, Kate Hudson, others.
34:04Do you have a sibling vibe on set?
34:07Right away.
34:08Yeah. Really? From the jump?
34:09Right away.
34:10Well, first, I got the call from Ike and Dave,
34:12and they said, hey, we're making this show with Mindy,
34:15and we want to know if you want to play Kate Hudson's brother.
34:19Yeah.
34:20And I was like, uh...
34:23You know, it was like Major League.
34:24I got a guy on the other line for some drywall.
34:27Yeah.
34:28I was like, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
34:30So, you know, we go through the process,
34:32and we do the table read and everything.
34:33And the first day, I knew it was going to work right away
34:37in terms of, well, hopefully it works.
34:39But I knew it had a chance right away when I got to set.
34:44And, you know, you get nerves.
34:46You know, it's like I always tell my kids,
34:49it's like going to school for the first day at a new school.
34:51Yep.
34:52You don't know who you're going to sit with,
34:53and you don't know, you know, who you're going to connect with.
34:55And, you know, I always tell them,
34:57just smile and be kind and be present.
34:59And so I'm doing that.
35:01And I look across the set, and I see Kate.
35:04And Kate's in her chair, and she's like this.
35:07And she's just, like, really honed in on me.
35:10And I go, you know, and I'm like, okay.
35:13So I walk over, and I say, hey, is everything okay?
35:16And she goes, hmm, you know what I think?
35:22I think your face is too big for your head.
35:28And I was like, oh.
35:30And she's like, Scott, do you know what I mean?
35:32And I was like, yeah, it's like when you're a kid,
35:35and you're cold, and your dad gives you his sport coat,
35:37and it's like hanging off, and she's like, yes.
35:41And then right as that's happening,
35:42I hear over my shoulder, I hear Ike go,
35:44if you think his face is weird, wait till you see his body.
35:47I'm like, what?
35:49She's like, do you have a weird body?
35:50I'm like, yeah, I got a weird body.
35:53So Kate took fashion issue with the reason.
35:57You did a Q&A about the show.
35:58These are lovely. People come, ask questions.
36:01And all right, so this is how you were dressed.
36:05No socks.
36:07I mean, this is a real choice.
36:08Not the response I was going for.
36:09I'm not going to lie.
36:11So she noticed, because it was obviously really clear,
36:15that you weren't wearing socks.
36:17What was her advice to you when she saw you weren't wearing socks?
36:20She told me to go home.
36:24Right before the lights went down and the screening started,
36:26it was a beautiful theater, the Egyptian Theater.
36:28It's a historic place in Los Angeles.
36:30She just looked across the aisle.
36:31I was sitting like this, as you do.
36:33My kids were there.
36:34First time they've ever come to a premiere with me.
36:36My wife.
36:36And she goes, she leans over the wall.
36:39And she goes, Scotty! Scotty!
36:40And I just look, and she went, no socks!
36:43And I went, oh, yeah.
36:44I literally actually just forgot to wear socks.
36:47Yeah, yeah.
36:47I thought I had blue ones.
36:49I didn't, so I was like, forget it.
36:50I won't wear socks.
36:50And then she goes, Kate, Kate!
36:52My wife's also named Kate.
36:53My wife leans forward.
36:54She goes, what?
36:54And she goes, how could you let him leave the house like that?
36:57And Kate's like, no, no, no.
36:58And then she goes, go home.
37:02I was like, what?
37:03She's like, go home now.
37:05So when we did the Q&A, I had to own the situation.
37:11Yeah.
37:11So I, you know, I went up.
37:13Yeah.
37:13And I really leaned into it.
37:15Yeah, I think that, by the way, I think owning it like this is better.
37:18Now it looks like a choice, not a guy who forgot socks.
37:21Yeah.
37:22I think that's very smart.
37:23This is a very good way to play it.
37:24Yeah, and that shirt I've had for 20 years and on the way over, I thought it would look cool
37:29if I popped the collar. It does not. I know that now.
37:32Yeah.
37:33Yeah, my mom's going to have a lot of notes about this whole segment.
37:37That's great. Well, I'm a big fan of hers as well, so I look forward to what her feedback is.
37:41When your brother Hayes was here, we talked about how he played football at Bowdoin, and he had a granular
37:48knowledge of his stats even today.
37:51He was a legend.
37:51He was a legend.
37:52Yeah.
37:52You played a little lacrosse. You played a little hockey in college.
37:56I did. I played on both teams.
37:57Was this the genetics consistent? Were you a legend?
38:02Well, I didn't keep my stats.
38:04Okay. You didn't keep your stats.
38:06No, he kept his stats. He's an all-time touchdown leader and, you know, every other category you can think
38:12of as a quarterback.
38:12I didn't keep my stats because I didn't actually play, so...
38:16But you were on two teams.
38:17I was on two teams. I was the backup goalie on both teams.
38:20And you never... A backup goalie usually gets in. You never got in a game in all your time in
38:25college?
38:26Backup goalies get in. I was the back-up.
38:28Oh, I see. I see.
38:29Yeah.
38:30There was a second string goalie.
38:32Yeah.
38:32And then there was a backup goalie.
38:33Yeah, yeah. I think I was what they might call a way back-up.
38:36Okay, gotcha.
38:37No, I did get in. I played in a preseason game. I think it was my sophomore year.
38:43You know, you get the nod. You're so excited. And I took a ball.
38:49You know, a lacrosse ball is quite hard.
38:51Yeah, they're no joke.
38:51It's vulcanized rubber. And I took a ball off the throat about, yeah, yeah, thank you.
39:00That's the response. See, I knew at some point we would get to understand each other.
39:05No, I took it off the throat. I collapsed. You know, it hurt. And all I remember,
39:13when I was on the turf and my esophagus was, you know, smashed into my spine,
39:18I just remember hearing my coach from the sideline go, well, I didn't ask him to be a goalie.
39:25And, you know, at that moment, I kind of like Rocky Balboa-ed it.
39:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:29I just slowly got up. I'm like, I'm okay. I'm okay.
39:31And as I was saying to, you know, my defenseman and, you know, because the guys care,
39:35you know, they're like, Scott, are you okay? I'm like, I'm fine. I'm fine.
39:37They're like, oh, he's fine. Because I already sounded like this.
39:41So there was no way that they could know that I was not fine.
39:45Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you got the right voice for lacrosse.
39:47Yeah. Thanks for being here, buddy. Congrats on Running Point.
39:51You got a shot in MacArthur, second season,
39:54streaming April 23rd on Netflix. We'll be right back.
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