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00:00We kind of have a little bit of a mystery on our hands I'll say
00:03Okay
00:03That we're trying to sort out
00:05So you said you have two kids right?
00:07Yes
00:07Okay
00:09Any other kids?
00:11Was anybody pregnant and then like
00:14No one ever saw the kid or anything?
00:17This is a baby if you couldn't tell
00:20I'm gonna throw up
00:21Like that's gross
00:23I'm sorry I've got a few spots
00:26Maybe we just actually set on fire
00:29Oh my god
00:30In Albany, New York
00:32A twisted crime has haunted the city's residence for 27 long years
00:37An unidentified newborn baby was murdered
00:40Burned and dumped in a local park
00:42But as one family is about to find out
00:45No secret stays buried forever
00:47God help someone if they lie
00:50The following report is based on official police records
00:53On the morning of September 6, 2024
00:56Police officers swarm an unsuspecting 52-year-old woman named Carrie Mazzucca
01:01And abruptly whisk her away from a Dunkin' Donuts parking lot in Gilderland, New York
01:06I need you to come with us
01:07We'll explain everything when we get where we have to go
01:09Okay
01:11But I need you to help me out with this
01:12It'll make sense in a minute
01:13Okay
01:14Vehicle stay right here
01:16The troopers will make sure it gets locked up and everything
01:18But it's imperative that you come with us now
01:19Okay
01:19Alright, so if you want to just come right this way
01:21Thanks
01:22Put it right here
01:23The gray car
01:24That gray car right there
01:25And I'm sorry, but it's our policy
01:27Before you get in our vehicle
01:29This way we have a female with us
01:31We just need to make sure you don't have any weapons or anything like that on us
01:33Can I grab my cell phone and call work?
01:37Am I going to be late?
01:39I don't see it
01:40What time do you have to be at work?
01:408.30
01:41I think you should be okay
01:42We'll grab it for you if you'd like
01:44Okay
01:44Where is it?
01:45Washington Ave Extension
01:46No, your phone
01:47Oh, and it should be right in the panel
01:49Like at the cup holder
01:51Cup holder?
01:51Okay
01:51Okay, I'll grab it
01:53All right
01:54Hang on one sec
01:55Hang on to that
01:56Carrie sits in the back
01:59And if she has the slightest clue what all of this is about
02:02It's not apparent
02:03So what happened?
02:04I didn't put my signal lamp on until
02:06Oh, you know those troopers
02:07They're always worried about vehicle and traffic
02:11I think that's what I heard him saying
02:13When he came in, you might not have
02:16Can I have my phone?
02:17We have it
02:18Yeah, yeah, yeah
02:18Can I have my phone?
02:20Just one second, please
02:22And we'll get you that
02:23You wanted to call work and just let them know
02:24I just want to text work, yes
02:26Okay
02:27Yeah, if you just
02:28Do you mind giving her a phone?
02:31So you should just let them know if she's going to be late
02:33Where are we going?
02:35Right down to our station
02:37Am I getting a ticket or anything?
02:39Well, I mean, you've been pretty cooperative
02:41So I don't think you'd be getting a ticket
02:43This is like a first for me
02:44I'm like shaking
02:47You're okay
02:47No, no, you're fine
02:48Seriously, relax
02:50You're not in danger or anything
02:52You're fine
02:52No human trafficking here?
02:54No, no, you're good
02:58All right, Carrie
03:03Can't believe how nice the weather is
03:04It's still going into September
03:06This elevator is probably older than all of us put together
03:11Okay, it's tight
03:12Sorry
03:13Feels like a closet
03:14Not an elevator
03:15I don't know if it's the slowest elevator
03:16But it is
03:17It's one of the top five
03:18It's not a thing?
03:19Exactly
03:20Carrie is taken into an interrogation room
03:22At the Albany Police Department
03:24Where the investigators ask for her help
03:26In solving a crime
03:27That has haunted the community for decades
03:29We kind of have a little bit of a mystery on our hands
03:32I'll say
03:32Okay
03:33That we're trying to sort out
03:35All right
03:36So with that being said
03:38I'm going to read you a few things
03:40These don't mean they're in trouble by any means
03:41Okay
03:42But because there's some unknowns that we're dealing with
03:44I want to make sure you understand them
03:46And then we can kind of explain what's going on
03:48Okay
03:49With that said
03:50He reads Carrie her Miranda rights
03:52And reveals what all of this is really about
03:54We're looking into something
03:56That happened quite a few years ago
03:58Okay
04:00Back in 1997
04:04So some remains were found in Washington Park
04:08Okay
04:11And you know
04:12It's been a long time since it happened
04:13We've been kind of working on it
04:15Here and there
04:17And we've been deploying a new investigative technique
04:20Right
04:21Do you watch like any of the stuff on the news
04:23Like genealogy stuff
04:25No
04:26Okay
04:27So what we do is
04:28We kind of go to some third party companies
04:31Like Ancestry.com
04:32Stuff like that
04:33And try and build family trees
04:35Okay
04:36So part of that is
04:39Is
04:40The remains
04:41The DNA testing on the remains that we found
04:44Are connected to your family
04:46Okay
04:47Yeah
04:48So it was younger
04:49Right
04:50The remains
04:51Best we can tell
04:52And we honestly don't know really what happened
04:56It's just one of those things that they're trying to get us to figure out
04:59And use this
05:00It's crazy right
05:02Police also visit Carrie's sister Wendy that morning in Roxbury, New York for the same purpose
05:07So we found human remains up in the Albany area
05:10It's from a while ago
05:11Going back several years
05:14It's come to our attention that it kind of comes back to possibly a relative in your family
05:21But
05:22Oh in my family?
05:22Yeah
05:23Oh
05:23But unfortunately we have to kind of go through and talk to everybody
05:26And then try to get like a buckle swab from people
05:30Meaning that's just like a swab of the cheek
05:32To try to figure out whose remains they were
05:35Back in Albany
05:36Carrie guides the detectives through her immediate family
05:39Which includes an ex-husband and two adult children
05:42As well as her extended family members
05:44None of whom are missing as far as she knows
05:47No one in the family has talked about
05:50Losing someone that never got accounted for
05:53Younger though
05:54Like young
05:55No
05:56No
05:56They're all accounted for
05:57That I know of
05:58Was anybody pregnant and then like
06:01No one ever saw the kid or anything?
06:04No
06:05No?
06:06Not that I'm aware of
06:07With Carrie eliminating everyone else in the family
06:10The detective focuses in on her
06:12So you said you have two kids right?
06:14Yes
06:14Okay
06:18Any other kids?
06:20No
06:20No
06:21Okay
06:23I know it's kind of a personal question
06:25But I have to
06:26It's one of the things I've got to ask
06:28How many times have you been pregnant?
06:30Two
06:30Two?
06:31Yes
06:31Okay
06:32Very easy
06:33Very
06:34Easy pregnancies?
06:35No issues?
06:36No
06:36What about after?
06:38Because like my wife
06:39She got the postpartum?
06:40Did you ever get that?
06:41No
06:41I babysat for so many people in Roxbury
06:45Like I was the town babysitter
06:47Okay
06:48That I think
06:49You know
06:50When I had my kids
06:51It was easy for me
06:51Because
06:52I'm used to
06:53Crying and screaming
06:56Children
06:56As important as Carrie's experiences
06:58Growing up in Roxbury may have been
07:00The police today are only concerned with one child
07:03This is a baby
07:04If you couldn't tell
07:07I'm going to throw up
07:09Like that's gross
07:10I know
07:10So the remains were found where?
07:13Can you tell me that?
07:14Yeah
07:14Yeah
07:14So
07:16Are you familiar with this area at all?
07:20Within Washington Park?
07:22I've seen it during Tula Festival
07:24These flower beds are over here
07:27Right by this road
07:28This is where the remains are found
07:33Okay
07:34Um
07:35But
07:36I mean
07:37Oh I'm sorry
07:38I've got
07:38A few spots
07:39Oh it's horrible
07:40The discovery was made 27 years ago
07:43On September 7th 1997
07:45Three park workers were starting their shift
07:48When they came across an unresponsive infant
07:50Lying in the grass
07:51Among burned blue cloth
07:53Police and rescue personnel responded to the scene
07:56But
07:56It was far too late
07:58The child
07:58Who would go on to be named
08:00Baby Moses Washington
08:01In reference to the park
08:02And a nearby statue
08:04Was already dead
08:05So this
08:06Is a
08:07A very newborn
08:09Baby
08:10That gets found
08:12Um
08:13And we're trying to
08:14Hash that out
08:16I mean
08:17In your mind
08:19What would cause someone
08:20To leave a baby
08:21In
08:22A place
08:23Anything you could think of?
08:25No
08:25No
08:26Cause they have all those like
08:30Hospitals
08:31Safe
08:32Places
08:33Yeah I was going to say
08:34Babies do you kids
08:35I
08:35Sorry
08:36Yeah
08:36I mean that's what we're trying to wrap our head around
08:39I
08:39No idea
08:41No idea
08:42That's
08:43I mean
08:44So there's some aggravating factors with this as well
08:47I think especially like
08:50How
08:52Right
08:53He'll soon reveal much more about these aggravating factors
08:57And they are horrific
08:58But for now he just wants her cooperation
09:00So part of this is we're going around
09:02We're trying to collect DNA samples from people
09:05Alright
09:05To try and match to
09:07Um
09:07The remains in that
09:09That we're doing
09:10Is that something to be able to help us out
09:11Yeah that's fine
09:12Give us a sample of DNA
09:13In Roxbury
09:14They ask the same of Carrie's sister
09:16Would you be willing to just do a buckle swap for us
09:19So we can
09:20You know
09:20Basically
09:21Uh
09:22Determine whether or not
09:23Like
09:24Those remains would be
09:25Anybody in your family
09:26Cause they may not be
09:27And this
09:28This would be helping us out
09:29To rule it out
09:30That way we can move on
09:31And try to
09:32Break some closure
09:33I don't care
09:33The sisters submit their samples
09:35And Carrie asks a follow up question
09:37How does that work with DI
09:38Can you
09:39Like
09:39Pinpoint
09:42Yeah
09:42I don't watch any of those stupid
09:43No
09:44Sorry
09:44I don't mean
09:44No no
09:44You're insulting my career
09:46No
09:46They freak me out
09:48Yeah
09:48So DNA is pretty cool
09:50Because
09:51In a sense
09:52It's
09:52Everyone's fingerprint is
09:54Different right
09:55It's distinct
09:56DNA is like
09:57Your
09:58Genetic fingerprint
09:59Okay
10:00But DNA isn't the only key
10:02To this heinous crime
10:03And the detectives
10:04Want to make certain
10:05That Carrie
10:06Who unlike her sister
10:07Has lived in the Albany area
10:09Since the 90s
10:10Isn't holding anything back
10:12The other part of it is this
10:14I'm
10:14I'm not saying
10:15I don't believe you
10:16By any means
10:17Right
10:17But one of the other things
10:19We kind of
10:19So
10:20The best way to describe it
10:22Is we're mixing old school
10:23And new school
10:23Right
10:23We're doing this new school
10:24DNA stuff
10:26But we're also doing
10:27The old school
10:27In the sense of
10:29If people are willing to do it
10:32We're trying to bring it back
10:33Would you be willing to take
10:34A polygraph examination for us
10:36Sure
10:37Okay
10:38Awesome
10:40Appreciate it
10:41Hang tight
10:41One sec
10:43Instead of arranging
10:44For a polygraph
10:45However
10:45The investigators
10:46Returned to give Carrie
10:47A clear look
10:48At exactly what kind
10:49Of crime this was
10:51So I'm sorry I gotta show you this
10:52But I do
10:53Because it is important
10:54Okay
10:57Maybe it was actually
10:58Set on fire
11:00Oh my god
11:01Yeah
11:02Yeah so not only
11:03Was it abandoned
11:04But
11:04Oh my god
11:06Yeah
11:06So we're trying to figure out
11:09You know
11:10Who did it
11:12Obviously right
11:12Right
11:13Because in your mind
11:14I mean you see that
11:14What's that scream to you
11:16But
11:16It's crazy
11:17But
11:20But I mean
11:20As I said
11:21Everything's explainable
11:23Right
11:23You know
11:25But
11:25It's not me
11:27I don't know
11:27Especially when
11:29You know
11:29We can prove it
11:30That's not a spot
11:31You want to be
11:32Or someone wants to be
11:33That I shouldn't say
11:34Right
11:34Right
11:35Like if someone is
11:37Truly related
11:38Or the mother
11:38Or father
11:39Of this child
11:40The best thing
11:41They can do
11:42When we talk to them
11:43And this is just me
11:45Thinking out loud
11:45Is the best thing
11:46They can do
11:47When we talk to them
11:48Is be truthful
11:49Right
11:49Because what they do
11:51Is we end up
11:52You know
11:52We go
11:53We get DNA
11:54We make comparisons
11:55And god help someone
11:57If they lie
11:57As the detective ramps up
12:00The woman who maintained
12:00For 45 solid minutes
12:02That she knows nothing
12:03About this long ago tragedy
12:05No idea
12:06No idea
12:07Is about to drop
12:08A bombshell
12:09Because all you have
12:11Is your credibility
12:11Right
12:12Because
12:1327 years ago
12:15Baby Moses
12:16Gets found here
12:18Right
12:19And
12:21Say we
12:22Say you are
12:22Mom
12:23Right
12:23I'm not saying you are
12:24But say you are
12:25Right
12:25And we bring you down here
12:27And you say
12:28No I'm not the mother
12:29I was never pregnant then
12:30What
12:31If that's not true
12:33Like we can figure
12:34All that stuff out
12:35Right
12:36And then what happens is
12:38We go
12:39Hey
12:39Guess what
12:40We found this baby
12:42Dead
12:42And burned
12:45And
12:45The mother said
12:46She's not the mother
12:47What's that scream to you
12:50If you're
12:51I did it
12:52I did it
12:53You did it
12:55I did it
12:56Carrie's sudden confession
12:58Lands like a grenade
12:59But it's been a long time
13:01In the making
13:01A full two years earlier
13:03Investigators were out
13:04At Carrie's house
13:05In the middle of the night
13:06Looking for evidence
13:07We are on our way to
13:09Dallas Mountain, New York
13:11For a trash bowl
13:21After a decades long investigation
13:23That has included some dirty jobs
13:25The detective wants to finally hear
13:27All of the horrible details
13:29What happened?
13:31I got pregnant
13:32I had the baby
13:34I gave birth in my bathtub
13:36Baby died
13:37Didn't know how to get rid of it
13:39How'd the baby die?
13:41I think I had water in the bathtub
13:43I think it drowned
13:44You drowned it?
13:45I didn't drown it
13:50In that bathtub?
13:57Yes
14:00Inside that apartment?
14:01Right there?
14:02Yes
14:04Why'd you burn the baby?
14:07I didn't burn the baby
14:08I didn't burn the baby
14:09Who did?
14:09I don't know who did
14:11Who'd you give the baby to?
14:13I had the baby by myself
14:14I went down to the park
14:15I handed it to somebody
14:17Who'd you hand it to?
14:18I don't know
14:18Some
14:19Some
14:20Random
14:21Person
14:23Carrie that doesn't exist
14:24I swear to God
14:25Carrie has reduced her crime
14:27To little more
14:28Than an improper burial
14:29But it's not long
14:30Before she makes
14:31A second
14:32Vile admission
14:33You did not hand this baby
14:35To a random person
14:37That didn't happen
14:41I didn't know what to do
14:42I set the baby on fire
14:45Was it screaming?
14:46No
14:46It was dead
14:47It was dead
14:49This grim subject
14:50Will be revisited
14:51But for now
14:52The detective keeps pressing
14:54Certain that Carrie
14:55Is holding on
14:55To at least one more
14:56Unspeakable truth
14:57This baby was breathing
14:59For minutes
15:01This baby was alive
15:03I had it in the
15:04I did
15:05That doesn't lie
15:08Let's all
15:09This is 27 years ago
15:10Let's clean this up
15:13Let's be done with this
15:14Here and now
15:14That baby died
15:16Not a natural causes
15:17I didn't kill the baby
15:19That I'm aware of
15:19I had it in the bathtub
15:21It didn't drown
15:22There's no water in the lungs
15:24That didn't happen
15:26It's not of natural causes
15:28There's no trauma
15:30So that leaves one thing
15:31And you know what
15:32That one thing is?
15:34Suffocation
15:36If you freaked out
15:39And did this
15:40That's fine
15:41We need to know
15:44I love
15:44Yes
15:45Yes what?
15:47I suffocated the child
15:48With what?
15:50To put it in the bag
15:50Put it in the bag?
15:53In a series of shocking disclosures
15:56It's the biggest one yet
15:57After 27 years
15:59Albany investigators
16:00Not only know
16:01Who baby Moses was
16:03They know exactly
16:04Who killed him
16:05But the most horrifying
16:06Specifics of that tragic day
16:08Are still to come
16:10Did you hear the baby cry
16:11And screaming?
16:12I did not
16:12You didn't hear the baby cry?
16:14No
16:14I swear
16:16That I remember
16:17I don't hear
16:18I do not remember
16:19I hear the baby cry
16:20What kind of bag?
16:22I think like a
16:23Walmart type
16:24Like a plastic bag?
16:25Like a plastic bag
16:27Okay
16:28And then
16:29How did you get down
16:30To Washington Park?
16:32Jump
16:32How do you get it
16:33From the apartment
16:34To your car?
16:35I had the plastic bag
16:37I like to put it
16:38In the bag
16:39In the towel
16:39And put it in my car
16:40Like carried it out
16:42Like
16:43Carried it out
16:44Like it was groceries
16:45Carried it out
16:46Like it was groceries?
16:48Yeah
16:48Kind of sounds like
16:50I mean
16:51Taking it out
16:51Like it's trash
16:52You know
16:53Yeah
16:55Did you have in your mind
16:56Like I'm going to go
16:56To Washington Park
16:57Or were you just
16:58I think I was just
16:59I was just driving
17:00I was just driving
17:01I didn't know
17:02What I was doing
17:03And where was the bag
17:04Of groceries
17:05That you brought
17:06Out of that
17:06In the back seat
17:07But while Carrie's
17:08Story is bleak enough
17:09The detective still
17:11Doesn't think
17:11It's the whole truth
17:12And with one more
17:13Chilling confession
17:14Carrie proves him right
17:16Well
17:18Now we've got to
17:19Talk about the part
17:20Where the baby
17:21Stops breathing
17:24And we've got to
17:25Do an honest account
17:26Of that with each other
17:29Not a I think
17:30Because this is
17:31Something you don't
17:32Forget
17:32You probably haven't
17:34Thought about it
17:34In a long time
17:35But it's definitely
17:36Something you don't
17:37Forget
17:37I put my hands
17:39Over it
17:39To knock my nose
17:41Are you sure?
17:45Yeah
17:48And then you
17:49Press down
17:51Yeah
17:53I think
17:54No not I think
17:55It's either
17:56Did or did didn't
17:57And I'm not
17:58Pressuring you
17:58To say something
17:59But I need
17:59A definitive answer
18:00Here
18:00Yes
18:03Yes what?
18:04I press down
18:07Did the baby
18:08Stop crying
18:09When you did that?
18:10Again I don't
18:11Remember the baby
18:12Crying
18:12But it must have
18:13I don't remember
18:14The baby crying
18:14I
18:15I want you
18:16To think back
18:17To 1997
18:18When you had
18:18Your hand
18:19Over it on
18:19Rolls
18:20Did you feel
18:21Those little breaths
18:22Hit in your hand?
18:23Yes
18:25How long
18:25Until it stopped?
18:38Ten minutes
18:39I don't know
18:40You helped your hand
18:42On me
18:42Ten minutes
18:43I don't
18:45Timing I don't know
18:47Carrie's darkest secrets
18:48Are out in the open
18:49But the detective
18:50Wants to know more
18:51About one of the crime's
18:52Most disturbing aspects
18:53The scorch marks
18:55On the baby's body
18:56I started to walk away
18:58And then I was afraid
18:59That there might be
19:00Evidence on the towel
19:02So it wasn't the baby
19:04It was
19:05You were trying
19:06To get rid of the towel
19:07The towel
19:07I was afraid
19:08My fingerprints
19:09Or whatever
19:09Would be on the towel
19:11So I wasn't setting
19:12The baby on fire
19:13I was setting
19:16The towel
19:16On fire
19:18Not
19:19At that time
19:20Thinking that
19:22Why not just
19:23Take the towel off
19:24And set it on fire?
19:25Or take it with you
19:26Just that
19:28Yeah
19:28Not
19:29Because those matches
19:30We
19:30Not in the right
19:31Headset
19:31You know
19:32Not in the right
19:32Frame of mind
19:33Not
19:34Fair enough
19:35Carrie who was 25
19:37At the time
19:38Says that the baby's
19:39Father was an ex-boyfriend
19:40From Roxbury
19:41And that she only realized
19:42She was pregnant
19:43After moving to Albany
19:44Have you ever told anyone?
19:46No
19:47Nobody
19:49Well we never told anybody?
19:51No
19:51Mom, dad, sister
19:52Nobody
19:52Nobody
19:53Just kept it inside
19:53The whole time
19:54Yeah
19:54Do you remember seeing
19:56All the stuff
19:57On the news about it?
19:59I do not
19:59I blocked
20:00I don't
20:00I didn't watch the news
20:01After
20:02A lot of people
20:03Actually showed up
20:04To that funeral
20:05A lot of people
20:11Thank you
20:13A lot of people
20:14For a lot of years
20:16Were wondering
20:18Wanted to know
20:19Not even for someone
20:20To be in trouble
20:21No people don't care
20:21People want to
20:22Just want to
20:22I just
20:23You know
20:24I just
20:25Even today
20:26I just
20:26Like
20:27If you could say anything
20:31To that baby right now
20:32What would it be?
20:33I love you and I'm sorry
20:36If he asked you
20:37Why'd you do this to me?
20:40I was young
20:41Stupid
20:41And
20:43With Carrie's story
20:44Having continuously
20:45Evolved
20:46Since the start
20:47Of the interview
20:47The detective
20:48Summarizes her statement
20:49To make sure
20:50He's got everything straight
20:51You went into the bathtub
20:53Where you ran
20:54Warm water I assume
20:55Yes
20:55Where you ran
20:56Warm water
20:57And then you
20:58Delivered the baby
21:00You pulled the baby out
21:02You cut the umbilical cord
21:04Cut it with your right hand
21:05Or your left hand
21:06I'm right handed
21:07Right handed
21:08Right handed
21:09Okay
21:09You recall baby
21:11Moving around
21:11You don't recall
21:13If it was crying
21:13But you know
21:14It was alive
21:14Because it was moving
21:16You put the baby down
21:18You
21:19You cut the umbilical cord
21:21You take care of yourself
21:22And
21:23Then you placed your hand
21:25Over the baby's nose
21:27And mouth
21:28And applied pressure
21:30Until the baby stopped
21:32Moving
21:34Did you know
21:35You were going to kill it
21:35When you were doing that?
21:38Yes
21:38I think yes
21:42So you
21:42You knew what you were doing
21:44But you did it
21:45Correct?
21:46Right
21:46I knew what I was doing
21:47I was young
21:48I was stupid
21:48I didn't
21:49You know
21:50Okay
21:52Yeah
21:52So you
21:54Intentionally kill this baby
21:56Then
21:56After about an hour
21:57You go to Washington Park
21:59And set the baby on fire
22:02And if that baby were alive today
22:04You would say
22:04I love you
22:05And I'm sorry
22:05Yeah
22:06Now that I'm older
22:08Wiser
22:08Have kids
22:09And
22:09Yeah
22:10And that leaves only a few questions
22:13Left to answer
22:13Including a big one
22:15Why?
22:18I
22:18Why did I do it?
22:19Yeah
22:21I think I just had no clue what I
22:24I think I was just in shock
22:27You're in shock
22:28Had you met Jason yet at that point?
22:32We were working together
22:33Did you like him at that point?
22:35No
22:35He was engaged
22:36You know
22:36We weren't
22:37We were just work
22:38Co-workers
22:39So this is
22:40Suddenly we're young
22:41And we're scared
22:42Yeah
22:43He doesn't even know about this
22:44What's it feel like to kill someone?
22:46Terrible
22:48Terrible
22:49Like walk me through your emotions
22:51I always ask everyone that's killed someone
22:53And you're not the first person
22:54Shame
22:55Embarrassment
22:56Feature them myself
22:57When did that kick in?
22:59Immediately
23:00After you did it?
23:01Mm-hmm
23:02After a morning that's seen all of her shadows brought into the light
23:06Carrie has a question of her own
23:08So now
23:09What?
23:10Now?
23:10I mean
23:11We gotta figure out what's what now
23:13I mean
23:13I wanna honestly just take a second and process everything we just talked about
23:16And I'm sure you do too
23:18Right
23:18I mean
23:19Am I in trouble?
23:19Am I gonna be arrested?
23:21Am I?
23:22I honestly don't know Carrie
23:23Um
23:26You know
23:26What do you think should happen out of this?
23:30Personally
23:31If it was years ago
23:32I think I should be in trouble
23:33It's 27 years later
23:35I've got my life back in order
23:36I
23:37I don't know
23:37Right
23:38I mean I did
23:39I did it
23:42Did what?
23:43I killed a child
23:44I killed a baby
23:45I
23:46Yeah
23:46I mean
23:47I mean
23:48Would you say you murdered it?
23:50I would
23:50Yeah
23:50I would have to say
23:51That's what I did
23:52Okay
23:54Yeah
23:54I mean
23:55It's been a long time
23:56The detectives leave Carrie to it for a moment
23:58But despite today's ugly revelations
24:01They're about to give her an unexpected reprieve
24:03What's happening?
24:06You're going home
24:06Am I being charged?
24:08No
24:08Arrested?
24:09Anything?
24:10Nope
24:11Okay
24:13So it's not gonna be on the news like tomorrow
24:15So I have to warn my parents?
24:17No
24:17No
24:18It's not gonna be on the news
24:19Right
24:20Um
24:21Now moving forward
24:22Is it possible that you could be arrested at some point?
24:26Maybe
24:27Yeah
24:27Yeah
24:28Yeah
24:29I'm worried about my career and everything too
24:31You know
24:32Yeah
24:32Rightfully so
24:33Now
24:35Hindsight
24:36You know
24:36Like my word on my kids
24:37And my relationship with my kids
24:39And
24:40Oh yeah
24:41Yeah
24:41I mean
24:41I mean
24:42They don't speak with their father at all
24:44On all they have
24:45And this
24:46Could
24:47Yeah
24:48I mean here's the thing
24:49Everyone's got skeletons in their closet
24:51Just of different degrees
24:52Right
24:53Yeah
24:54Yeah but this is killing somebody
24:55You know what I mean
24:56Like this is
24:57Actual murder
24:58But Carrie is indeed free to leave
25:00Though the detective ends the interview with a note of caution
25:03Am I like
25:04I'm supposed to be going to Florida in November
25:06Am I reading on Florida in November
25:07Or is that a down the road thing
25:09Is that a
25:10I mean that's a down the road thing
25:12I mean let's
25:13Let's
25:13Take it one thing at a time here
25:15Court records state that Carrie went to work after the interview
25:18Before going home
25:19Where police had secretly installed an eavesdropping device
25:22She vacuumed the house and quote
25:24Treated the killing of this child
25:26As nothing more than a singular moment in time
25:29And of no consequence
25:31One week later
25:32Carrie Mazzucca was arrested for second degree murder
25:35Tampering with physical evidence
25:37And concealment of a corpse
25:41Let's just have a seat
25:42If you can have a seat in this chair
25:44So just go
25:49Do you need any water?
25:51Do you like have a water?
25:52Yeah
25:52Do you want any snacks or anything?
25:54I'm good
25:56Carrie is back in the same interrogation room
25:58But this time there are no investigators to talk to
26:01As it turns out
26:02The detectives got all they needed last week
26:05When you placed your hand over the mouth and nose of the baby
26:07Was it breathing?
26:08Yes
26:08After a deal with the prosecution
26:11Carrie Mazzucca pled guilty
26:12To one count of manslaughter in the first degree
26:14And one count of tampering with physical evidence
26:17At the sentence hearing
26:19The prosecutor referring to Carrie's maiden name said
26:22Today we know the baby's identity as baby Spielman
26:25And its young life was nothing but suffering and pain
26:29So where was the towel when you set it on fire?
26:34Under baby
26:35Bye baby
26:36The prosecutor went on to say that Carrie's nine pound three ounce infant
26:40Was found wrapped in a blanket
26:42And he was completely burned on his entire back
26:45Including the back of his head
26:47In a recorded jail call
26:49Carrie said
26:50Do I deserve something?
26:51Yes
26:51Do I deserve to lose everything in my life?
26:54My house?
26:55My possessions?
26:56Everything?
26:57No
26:57Why did you set the towel on fire while it was on the baby?
27:01Because we have DNA
27:03Or fingerprints
27:04Or
27:05I'm saying fingerprints
27:06Because
27:07We're talking DNA today
27:08Game changer right?
27:10At the hearing
27:11The judge looked at Carrie
27:13And said
27:13I'll call him baby Moses
27:15And not baby Spielman
27:16Because the detectives and officers
27:18Who found him
27:19And gave him that name
27:20Showed more love and consideration
27:21For your child
27:23Than you ever did
27:24On April 18th, 2025
27:26He sentenced Carrie Mazzucca
27:28To 25 years in prison
27:30Followed by five years
27:31Of post-release supervision
27:32She's incarcerated
27:34At Bedford Hills Correctional Institution
27:36In New York State
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