00:00I want people to listen to my music and feel like the best, most elevated version.
00:07That's what I approach in songwriting.
00:09I'm either honing in on my deepest vulnerabilities and insecurities or I'm dreaming as big as I can.
00:23This award means a lot to me.
00:25Obviously my true initial passion for all of this was writing short stories or writing poetry and starting it in
00:34my bedroom and I think creating something of this sort of career from just back in my bedroom back in
00:44Calgary, Alberta is pretty crazy to me to think that I've done so much.
00:49It means the world to me and I think that because I'm such a performer or dancer, I think it's
00:54always nice to be recognized for the creation part of it because that's all of it to me.
00:59For me, a hit song is when all the puzzle pieces come together, when the song feels like the full
01:06story has been told and there's nothing left to say and there's no fine tuning done.
01:11You can feel that in your chest and then the listener can feel that in their chest and the exact,
01:17precise message comes across.
01:19To me, that feels like a hit song.
01:21You just have to think with the most extreme and open mind when you're writing.
01:27I say put it all out on the table when you're in the room.
01:30You don't have to release it.
01:32You don't have to put it out there, but I think that it's all about exhausting your emotions and that's
01:37the most beautiful thing about songwriting is going to the farthest depth of what one person can think.
01:45What's your favorite lyric you've ever written in?
01:47Oh gosh.
01:49I don't know.
01:50Why did my brain go, we can't, uh-uh in it.
01:57I, uh, gosh damn.
02:00Um, I think my favorite lyric, I feel like I've written so many songs now.
02:05I say this all the time, but this is one of my favorite lyrics in one of my songs called
02:09Nostalgia.
02:10It just says, uh, and I manifested you would leave, so the day you did I had you beat.
02:15Three steps ahead of everything.
02:17I manifested you would leave, so the day you did I had you beat.
02:22Three steps ahead of everything.
02:25And I think that was such a perfect way for me to describe being a songwriter and being a manifester.
02:32The power of your tongue and the power of words and how sometimes I can write a song and it
02:37can completely manifest into my reality.
02:39I was proud of that one.
02:40I think for at least me, whenever I think rationally in a writing session, it's the most uninspiring work I
02:48could create.
02:48Because everything's been done before, every key has been played, every word has been used, so I think all you
02:54have is your own unique perspective.
02:56I mean, my brain at least, I can think all day long and every single second and dissect everything about
03:04why we're here.
03:05That's the writing session and talking my feelings out with chords behind me is how I can figure out or
03:14get any sense of what those thoughts mean.
03:16And so I think you always have to try and figure out the farthest place of that.
03:22Honestly, I think a per se Tatiana song is me just writing from the highest version of myself.
03:30Some people, at least when they approach me, they say they feel things in my music.
03:36It makes them feel like the best version of themselves, which to me is a very high compliment because I
03:42want people to listen to my music and feel like the best, most elevated version.
03:49That's what I approach in songwriting.
03:50I'm either honing in on my deepest vulnerabilities and insecurities or I'm dreaming as big as I can.
03:56In a writing session, the energy is so intense with so many creative brains in one room, the producer playing
04:05chords and the energy of Amy or Julia who I'm writing with.
04:09And the flow in the conversation, there's like this energy that you feel like you can literally feel and see
04:14in the room like a smog around you.
04:17And it's up to you to decipher and figure out what you want that to feel like.
04:21It can make you feel like unstoppable.
04:24If you write a specific song, which is so cool.
04:28It's so incredible working with Julia and Tedder and Amy.
04:31I just find them very inspiring.
04:33And I feel so lucky as a 22-year-old to be able to just learn from them like sisters
04:38as well and gather knowledge from their brains on how they create and how they've lived their lives.
04:44And yeah, for sure, I'm going to work with them again.
04:46I love them as collaborators.
04:48I'm definitely in the creative process of starting whatever the hell is coming next.
04:54It definitely feels like the beginning.
04:56Right now I'm looking at a blank page being like, where do I take this?
04:59So much is inspiring me right now.
05:01Life in general, I feel so inspired just by my surroundings.
05:07Romanticizing life a little bit and reading lots of books, not having social media on my phone, and seeing friends,
05:18talking, conversations, good music.
05:20I've been listening to the Cocteau Twins, which are such a cool sound that I've been narrating my Paris trip.
05:29And so many cool bands that I feel like I'm learning about.
05:32I write on tour all the time, especially in Europe this year, just journaling a lot and writing in my
05:38diary, writing poetry.
05:39Obviously being around such incredible architecture and nature just brings a different energy to the music.
05:46And so a lot of my deluxe songs were actually started.
05:49Like one was in Italy, the one line, I knew I must have dropped my diary in the pool for
05:53a reason, erased your every line,
05:55was literally me at a pool in Italy and I fully dropped like my nicest diary.
06:00I was devastated and every single love poem I had written was completely blurred out and destroyed.
06:07And I thought that was a really sad but interesting metaphor for what I was going through.
06:13I had a very specific vision.
06:15I remember being like, I want Sean Bankhead.
06:18I want to be a pop star.
06:21I want to write over this tempo BPM.
06:25I want to do it in a hockey rink.
06:27I want this to be the aesthetic.
06:28I just had such a clear idea and vision of where I was going.
06:32All those performances, like I did the Billboard Music Awards and that was my first Grady performance,
06:38the idea of the security guards in front of me and splitting them open in the bedazzled blue,
06:43like I could see it all in my brain.
06:44And so all it was was collecting the right people around me to make it become a reality.
06:49I think sometimes you get signs and messages on where you're supposed to go in life
06:53and you ignore it and you ignore it.
06:54And then finally, it becomes the most piercing feeling in your gut and you wake up and you're like,
07:00all right, no more time to waste.
07:02I know exactly how I need to execute this.
07:05And luckily my collaborators, Ryan and Amy and Grant and my choreographers and creative directors,
07:11it all came to life.
07:12But I think that you definitely have to put your foot down sometimes and be like,
07:17all right, enough with everybody else's opinions.
07:19This is how I see this going.
07:21But I honestly think every single time you start to create a project or even think you got anything figured
07:29out,
07:29you kind of get slapped in the face with, oh, you have so much to learn and there's so much
07:35to still figure out.
07:37And at 22, sometimes I feel like I can wake up one morning and feel so wise and feel like
07:43I know exactly who I am.
07:45And the next morning I can wake up and have a full existential crisis of why I'm here.
07:49And so I think that it is a lot of back and forth and so much overanalyzing and observing and
07:56starting from scratch over and over again.
07:59I always go into the studio with a lot of reference images, so many playlists, so many sounds and sonics
08:07to give to the producers.
08:08You never know where you're going to veer after that.
08:11But I think having a baseline of what your initial vision is is very important.
08:17But that's what helps me find clarity before I start writing is what world am I starting to build
08:23and what kind of person do I want to feel like walking into the studio.
08:27I've been training in dance since I was seven years old.
08:31That has been really interesting, being able to incorporate that into my life as a singer
08:37because it's muscle memory to me.
08:39And those 40-hour weeks that I had for 10 years are sticking with me now
08:45and are really supporting my performances and my work ethic now.
08:55Tip for Tap to me was such a faded experience.
08:59I was just so highly sensitive and emotional over tour this year.
09:04Didn't have social media on my phone.
09:06Felt like I was just frolicking around Europe, writing in my diary and being a really emotional cancer.
09:15That's all I can describe it and I think when Tip for Tap came along it was one of those
09:20moments
09:21where I hadn't written in a really long time and it was right in the middle of tour
09:24and it was just fully pure honest expression and then I dropped it two weeks later.
09:30Whether that's a breakup or a relationship or whatever's happening,
09:34I hope that's how I continue to write throughout this year,
09:38finding sparks of inspiration and writing as freely as that.
09:41I was really surprised by the reaction of Tip for Tat when it first came out.
09:47I always think things are going to be much smaller than they are
09:51or never think that people are going to react to anything.
09:55I'll always assume that two people are going to know what I'm doing and be grateful for that.
10:00When Tip for Tat dropped, I wasn't even thinking about the perception of how people were going to receive that
10:06song
10:06and I think it really helped people through some breakups and some hard situations
10:11and that's all I can ask for.
10:14I would say Greedy was a very meaningful song to me.
10:23When I think back to that phase of my life, I was so lost.
10:27I was 19, this big singing career felt so daunting to me.
10:31This was one of the first times where I had pure clarity and direction on where I wanted to go
10:36visually and sonically.
10:39When that song came about, it felt so aligned with me at that time.
10:43It felt like such a shift in a new chapter.
10:45So Greedy's really special to me.
10:47And then I would say Sports Car is one of my favorite songs of mine.
10:50It was such a swing and such a fun song to write.
10:53We wrote it so fast and it came out so quickly.
10:56I still adore that song.
10:58I think it's so fun to perform live.
11:00The music industry right now is just booming with incredible women.
11:04It's not hard to find inspiration in today's music.
11:08Right now especially, I feel like everyone's perspective is incredibly unique.
11:13There's nothing that feels the same to me is really inspiring
11:16and also makes me want to go into the studio and find out more about myself
11:21and honestly at the end of the day just figure out who I am and what my identity is
11:25for my own satisfaction as a human being
11:28because that's the whole purpose to just figure out who you are
11:31and why you want to live this life and writing is such a beautiful way to find that out.
11:35I mean I love Olivia Dean right now.
11:37I love Sabrina, Gracie, Olivia.
11:40I'm so excited for her to drop music again.
11:42She's an unbelievable songwriter.
11:44What I admire most is how truthful she is.
11:46This industry can be really hard to navigate
11:49and all of us have insecurities and feelings
11:52and she never fears brutal honesty
11:57or laying out all of her insecurities or feelings on the table
12:01which I think is so admirable.
12:02She's like that as a friend too, just like the most open, honest person
12:06and I think that that's beautiful.
12:08Dream collaborators right now I think would be Lana Del Rey.
12:13I always look to Rihanna and think she's got the best career ever
12:19and she's just the coolest woman alive.
12:22I'm just constantly trying to make art that feels somewhat timeless
12:25and performances that feel like they can, you know,
12:30eventually stand up beside my favorite performances
12:33and that's the goal at the end of the day is right now
12:36I'm just trying to make the best possible work
12:39and I don't know what direction that's going to be in.
12:42I don't even know if fans will be able to expect it or not expect it
12:46but for me it's a personal goal
12:49of just trying to beat out everything I've once done.
12:51I don't know.
12:54I don't know.
13:00You
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