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Gangho Neighborhood Bookstore (2026) Episode 6 | English Sub
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00:39Yes, it is.
00:40This is the most beautiful city of the world,
00:44the one who is reading the book of the world.
00:48Welcome.
00:51We have a lot of books to buy to buy a lot of people.
00:56But I'm going to buy a book from the first time.
00:58I'm going to buy a book from the first time.
01:03But it's different from the first time.
01:08So, it's not a big deal?
01:10No, it's not.
01:11Yes, I'm sure.
01:13I'm a big deal of weight.
01:15But my hair is big.
01:17I'm not looking for my hair.
01:19I'm not looking for you.
01:20I'm not looking for you.
01:25I don't want to keep my hair on my hair.
01:29I'm not looking for you.
01:30I'm not looking for you.
01:31Yes, I'm looking for you.
01:33It's our own tone, so we can hear it.
01:37So we can hear it.
01:41It's really interesting.
01:46You're a little nervous.
01:48Yes.
01:49If you're nervous, I'll give you a little more.
01:52I'll give you a little more.
01:58I'll give you a little more.
01:59Yes.
02:00Just give this one a try and take it out.
02:05How much has this been?
02:07I could take it out.
02:08How much of that can I take an eye look like this?
02:08I want to take it out.
02:10I was going to know a lot about it.
02:12I remember the time I came to know it was a certain lesson.
02:19Yes.
02:20I tried to take it out before the medicare one in the doctor.
02:21I was looking for a lot of people to come and take it to him.
02:23I got to give it to him, he said.
02:24Yes, it was a little bit.
02:25It was a little bit of a pain.
02:28It felt like a little bit of a pain.
02:30I've heard a lot about this.
02:32I've heard a lot about this.
02:34But I'm sure you're going to hear this.
02:36Yes.
02:38Actually, we're not paying for cash.
02:42We're not paying for cash.
02:44So I'm paying for cash.
02:47I'm not paying for cash.
02:48I'm not paying for cash.
02:53So let's talk about this.
02:55We'll talk about what you're going to recommend.
02:57That's right.
02:58Then I'll have to go look at it.
03:00I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
03:01First of all, your name is Isidol.
03:03Yes, it's right.
03:04The family's relationship is what you're doing?
03:05Three and three of them.
03:07Five of them.
03:08Three of them.
03:10So, three of them.
03:12Yes.
03:12Then, two of them.
03:14One, two.
03:15One, two.
03:15Two, three of them.
03:18One, two, three of them.
03:25What he did with the call on me?
03:30I worked with him and his work at the U.N.S.T.
03:36He was a student when he was a friend of mine.
03:40He was a student when he was a director of B.N.I.S.T.
03:45He was a student from his company.
03:46He was a student in the book.
03:47He was a student in the book of B.N.S.T.
03:47He was a student that was a student.
03:48That's a student that was a student.
03:49Do you want to choose one of the 직업?
03:52Actually, I think it's a little bit of a job that I can do.
03:57But I think it's a job that I can do.
04:00I think it's a job that I can do.
04:02I think it's a job that you're looking for?
04:06Yes.
04:06I'm not sure.
04:10I'm not sure.
04:11I'm not sure.
04:11I'm not sure.
04:12I'm not sure.
04:13Yes.
04:14Yes.
04:14What about this book?
04:15I'm not sure.
04:19I'll explain it.
04:21Okay.
04:21I've read this book.
04:22It's a book.
04:24It's a book.
04:24Yeah.
04:25It's hard to read.
04:28It's hard to read.
04:34I've read this book.
04:38It's hard to read.
04:41I think it's hard to read.
04:43It's hard to read.
04:44I'm going to be honest and honest with you.
04:49I'm going to be honest with you.
04:51Oh, so thank you very much.
04:53How did you write this book?
04:56I'm going to be honest with you,
04:57and I'm going to be honest with you.
05:03You're going to be honest with you,
05:07but in your life,
05:10you have to use a lot of words.
05:12Or pergunta 1 are taught jako?
05:15Or What?
05:16Is that
05:17A让
05:17Right
05:17means That
05:17it What
05:19did your language I
05:20Is
05:24So
05:25All
05:27And
05:37Sh
05:38Yes, I'm like, I like to be seen in a way, what's interesting this is.
05:45Yes, well I always like some of the words there.
05:51Obviously, I like the words of the person, too.
05:54But it is a good idea.
05:56Definitely, it is that you can say, you know, it's pretty good.
05:59And you can say, this is true, you know.
06:01I've felt I've felt that Nossah is strong than the escapee.
06:07What do I do, and I think I didn't even know how to do it, but I don't know what
06:12he did to escapee.
06:15What do you think about that?
06:15And that's the concept that it's most of the time.
06:18The next time is the Nossah's decision.
06:22But I think we've got the Nossah's decision in the process.
06:28That's how we look forward to the press.
06:29That's right.
06:29That's right.
06:31Now, we'll read the book about the book.
06:34We'll read the book about the book.
06:36The book is written by the book.
06:39How did you get started?
06:42I was born in 15 years ago.
06:47I was born in Begumdo.
06:50You were born in Begumdo?
06:53I was born in Begumdo.
06:58I was born in B.
06:59The book was born in Begumdo.
07:01I was born in Begumdo.
07:08The book was born in Begumdo.
07:10You were born in Begumdo.
07:11But how did you come to be a boy?
07:15I was born in Begumdo.
07:20I was born in Begumdo.
07:28So I started to win and I didn't win.
07:32It was really fun.
07:36I didn't win.
07:37Because I had a lot of fun.
07:40I didn't win.
07:41It's not easy.
07:43We had 7 years old, so it was hard to win.
07:46It wasn't easy to win.
07:46But then, if I had 9 or 10 years old, I didn't win.
07:49What did you do?
07:50If you had 6 years old, it would have been a lot of fun.
07:53I don't know why I'm a bad guy.
07:57I didn't think I was a bad guy.
08:00I don't think I was a bad guy.
08:02I was really happy to be here.
08:04I was a kid in high school.
08:05I was a kid with my own,
08:08and I was a kid with my own,
08:12and I was a kid.
08:13But I didn't care about it.
08:15I didn't care about it.
08:15So, what did you do with that?
08:18I remember that when I was a kid.
08:22I'm a big fan.
08:24I used to get a lot of I had to get started.
08:28But I didn't have to get a lot of I had to get started.
08:32I got 5.5.5.
08:33I had to get started.
08:35After that, I got a lot of I had to get started.
08:37I got a lot of I had to get started.
08:42It was a hard time to get started.
08:46I was like, I was like, I'm tired of it.
08:50I was like, I'm tired of it.
08:53You were like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm tired of it.
08:57I'm like, I'm tired of it.
08:58I know it's very good.
09:01I've been using the wine for a lot of wine.
09:05I'm sure it's a little bit of wine.
09:09I know it's a good wine.
09:12I'm not sure how old I am.
09:15But I feel like I can't imagine.
09:18I feel like I'm having a drink.
09:19I just had a drink.
09:25It's your boy.
09:28I feel like I'm in a soul.
09:36You've been a good friend of mine.
09:38I don't know what I was saying.
09:39and the voice that you've heard about.
09:40So you didn't understand, you didn't understand.
09:41So I didn't understand what you said.
09:44But, still, I wasn't sure what you said.
09:50It's really clear.
09:54But you didn't take my name to my father.
09:56So, you know when I was one former?
09:58Back then, John Humeon.
10:02We were champions.
10:04I'm a fan of the World Cup.
10:08I'm a fan of the World Cup.
10:10I watched the world on TV.
10:14I watched the World Cup.
10:16I said,
10:19I'm going to do it.
10:22I'm going to do it.
10:23I'm going to do it.
10:53How did you become a pro?
10:55I was 12 years old. I became a pro.
11:01I became a pro.
11:03I was a pro who I had before.
11:06I became a pro.
11:08I've had some time to be a pro to be as a pro, so I've had some time to be
11:13a pro to be a pro.
11:15It's so funny because I didn't know what to do.
11:17I don't know if I'm a pro to be a pro to be a pro, but I was a young
11:24kid, but I didn't know what to do.
11:28I just had to be a pro.
11:30It was like, it was a really good time for me.
11:32It was a really bad thing.
11:35It's a big deal.
11:36It's not a big deal.
11:38I was just kidding.
11:40I was just a little late.
11:44It's a big deal.
11:47I was like, I'm the best.
11:50I didn't want to do that.
11:54That's the fact that I've been the best for you.
11:56It's been a long time for me to be able to face the world.
12:02I'm so happy.
12:03No, my brother, I didn't think it was, but.
12:08That was my brother!
12:11I was from my brother to my brother.
12:14I started to get home together.
12:19I was my brother.
12:22There were five people in my family together.
12:26I had to thank my brother and my brother.
12:30He's the one who's gonna be.
12:35I thought, you're absolutely fine.
12:36If he's a pro, it's good, I'm not sure what he's going to happen.
12:41I'm not sure if he's a pro.
12:43But it doesn't matter.
12:43And he's pretty?
12:45He's a pro, so...
12:48When he was born in junior high, he was born in low-cost fashion.
12:54But he wasn't known for a pro anymore.
12:56I'm a pro-profit.
12:58I've been able to support a lot of people who are watching the sire.
13:03But I'm a pro-profit.
13:04I'm a pro-profit.
13:06I'm a pro-profit.
13:09But I'm 12 years old.
13:15I want to support a pro-profit.
13:18I want to support a pro-profit.
13:20I want to support a pro-profit.
13:21But I have been a pro-profit.
13:26So I want to support a pro-profit.
13:27I have a pro-profit.
13:28That's why I used to support a pro-profit.
13:30The pro-profit.
13:32It's like.
13:35It's hard to help.
13:40It's hard to think.
13:42That's why I have no terms for you.
13:44So, what did you do at the top of my head?
13:47I was a pro-profit.
13:56I was born in the past.
13:57It was my birthday.
13:58It was 3.2.
13:59I was born in the past.
14:02My birthday, you know?
14:05I was born in the past.
14:08But it was a pro-di-science.
14:12It's not just a good gift.
14:13It's not a good gift.
14:18Yes, I'm not sure what it is.
14:19But I didn't have enough results, I was not sure what I did.
14:23Because I didn't feel sorry about it.
14:27I just wanted to give a little bit more.
14:32Yes, I just wanted to give a little bit.
14:45I think it was a pro-ease.
14:48But I think it was a pro-ease.
14:53It was a year after that.
14:55It was a year after 1999.
15:00And then 2000.
15:01It was a year after that.
15:05I think it was a hard time for you to learn how to learn.
15:08but it's not a lot to know.
15:14What did you know about your father's heart?
15:17I guess I was a little worried about the moment
15:25when I was in the city of B군도,
15:29I was going to get to the city where I was going to go.
15:31I was going to get bus,
15:34I was just going to go to the bus, on the bus.
15:37I went to the bus, and he was like,
15:41and then he was there.
15:45But it's difficult to imagine.
15:50I'm like, I'm going to go to the bus.
15:54That's the last time I've had.
15:58So, I said...
16:00Is that...
16:04No...
16:04No...
16:04No...
16:05It's not...
16:09It's not...
16:11It's not...
16:13It's not...
16:15You're on the first day of the father's hands.
16:20It's been a long time...
16:23It's been a long time for a while.
16:28I think my father's father is not going to come back to me.
16:34He was not going to come back to me.
16:37He was not going to come back to me.
16:41Yes, but at the time,
16:45when I was young,
16:46my father's dream,
16:50I love the dream.
16:52I love the dream.
16:53I love it.
16:54I love it.
17:36Alpago is a big fan of Alpago.
17:50The event, event, like this, is a lot of people who think about it.
17:54But he's a lot more than 10th year.
17:58But it's not really your opinion.
18:01It's a lot of people who want to go to the house, doesn't it?
18:04No, it's not.
18:06It's a great day of 1.
18:08We can see it.
18:09It's a little bit of 1 on the day.
18:13Yeah.
18:29The world is known for the best matchmaking team.
18:36The personal rainbow player is the best matchmaking team.
18:45However, because the world is being known for the best matchmaking team,
18:49Yes, I think it's like a rival, but I think it's like a rival.
18:53I think it's the first time I'm going to talk to you about the next time.
19:05It's a big compliment.
19:13It's been a long time ago.
19:15I think it was about 17, 18%
19:18That's a long time ago
19:20I started to do a lot
19:24I started to do a lot
19:26I was very good at this time
19:30I was like, I don't know?
19:31I was like, I've been looking for five years
19:35I've been looking for 2005 to 2008
19:38I've been looking for three or four years
19:40I've been looking for a little
19:42.
19:42.
19:43.
19:43.
19:43.
19:44.
19:45Yes, but it is the same.
19:47But all the history of the year has been at the beginning.
19:49In 2009, I was in the first time in the victory.
19:54It was the first time.
19:56It was the first time in the game.
19:58It was the first time in the game.
19:59It was the first time in the game.
20:01That was the first time I met in 2012.
20:05In 2012, I got a number of people on the record.
20:09It was a thing that I was like, I didn't know.
20:13It was really a thousand pounds of money.
20:15Just like 20 more times,
20:17I'm going to lose my weight then
20:18I'm going to win the game
20:21You can win it
20:24It's really good
20:27I'm going to win it
20:28I'm going to win the game
20:30I'm going to win it
20:34So I will win it
20:36So I'm going to win it
20:36I put it on my last game
20:37I'm going to win it
20:40So I'm going to win it
20:41The final game of the game is
20:432-0-1-2-0
20:44It was true to me.
20:46It's true to me.
20:48I'm assuming that's different.
20:53So, like, I'm going to look at the
20:55I'm going to look at the
20:57but how do I recover?
21:01I'm going to do that.
21:02So we're going to try to overcome
21:03So we have to go there.
21:04Who's-
21:05But when I'm in he has to talk to him
21:06I'm gonna talk to him
21:06but took him a lot more precisely.
21:08That's true.
21:09We can't do that.
21:12We can't do that.
21:17The conclusion is that we can't do that.
21:23We must not do that.
21:25I have to do it.
21:55원래 목적은 3월에 시작을 해서 12월에 끝나는 이런 시기였습니다.
22:00그런데 좀 빨리 끝났죠.
22:02제가 미안하죠 뭐.
22:09좋게 6대2로 승리를 했는데요.
22:11승패는 사실 그렇게 중요하지도 않았던 것 같고요.
22:1520번기 자체에 대국을 했다.
22:19이게 중요한 것 같습니다.
22:21진짜 세계의 라이벌이자 인생의 동반자이기도 하네요.
22:25네.
22:26둘이서 막 깔깔깔 웃으면서 5대5대면
22:30야 이 머리 좀 많이 받고 막
22:34야 11번째 대국 가는 거지 뭐.
22:395대5대면?
22:40네.
22:54자 그리고 이제 또 한 번의 명성부 알파고의 대결.
22:59AI를 이긴 유일한 인류.
23:02바둑 세계 최강자 이세돌 구단과 구글의 인공지능 바둑 프로그램 알파고의 첫 대국이 오늘 오후 시작됩니다.
23:10오늘 이겼는데 이렇게 축하를 받아본 것도 처음인 것 같습니다.
23:16이 대결은 일단 어떻게 성사가 된 겁니까?
23:19처음 제 일을 받았던 게 커제구단 결승전 끝나고 나서
23:23저 2대3으로 패했어요.
23:27보통은 그런 큰 시합을 치면은
23:29연락을 잘 안 합니다.
23:31좀 이제 회복할 시간을 줘야 되기 때문에
23:34끝나고 바로였나?
23:36당일날인가 전화가 왔어요.
23:38중국에 있던.
23:39지인으로부터.
23:41아 후배기사예요.
23:42네.
23:43뭐지?
23:44오빠는데 뭐.
23:45혹시.
23:47담보 오시면.
23:48시간 되시냐고.
23:49그래서 다음날.
23:50바로 만났습니다.
23:52비 빌려줄게 약속.
23:54이렇게.
23:55그런데.
23:55제가 처음에 느꼈던 건.
23:57그냥 이벤트구나.
23:59체스는 진즉에 컴퓨터가 이겼죠.
24:02바둑도 언젠가는.
24:03이를 것이라고 생각은 하고 있었어요.
24:06네.
24:07그게 2016년도라고 생각하지 않았고요.
24:10조건 요만큼 우려도 없었습니까?
24:11예.
24:13안 진다?
24:14아예 지는 걸 생각을 하지 않았어요.
24:17거의 뭐.
24:18자신이 없어요 정도.
24:20그래서.
24:21질 자신이.
24:23그래가지고.
24:24정말.
24:25그러한 상황이라.
24:28진다는 생각을 안 하고 있다가요.
24:30전문가 분이 한번 오셨어요.
24:32기원으로.
24:34저 사버님.
24:35인공지능이라는 게 뭐.
24:37여기까지 올려놓기는 어렵지만.
24:38여기.
24:38여기까지 올라간 순간 전체.
24:40기하급수적으로 발전합니다.
24:43조심하셔야 됩니다.
24:44대비하시고.
24:45좀 준비하셔야 됩니다.
24:47혹시 바둑은.
24:50저는 바둑은 잘.
24:51아.
24:52바둑을 모르셔가지고 이러신구나.
24:55아.
24:56그렇구나.
24:56하면서 향기로 향기로 그냥 흘려버렸는데.
24:59그게.
24:59또 그거 바로 보냈습니까?
25:01거의 뭐.
25:02다이렉트로 그냥.
25:03바로 뚫려있더라고요.
25:05그렇고.
25:05제가 시합 전날에.
25:08전야제.
25:09전야제.
25:09전야제한테 얘기하는데 뭐.
25:10이 기술의 발전은 뭐.
25:12승패를 떠나서 이 기술의 발전은.
25:13인류 발전에 도움이 될 것이고.
25:15쪼고 쪼고 하는데.
25:16얘기를 딱 들어오는 순간은 뭐냐면.
25:18어.
25:19어.
25:19난 저 있네.
25:22시작도 전에 저 있는 듯한 느낌이었어요.
25:24어떻게 저렇게 자신감 있지?
25:27좀 이상하긴 하다.
25:29그때 처음 느꼈습니다.
25:30원래 서양 쪽은 이렇게 일을 하시나?
25:34그리고 이제 그다음.
25:35이제 대국에서.
25:37그때.
25:38생각보다 잘 누더라고요.
25:40첫 번째가 알파고가 생각보다 잘 눌던 게 첫 번째고요.
25:43두 번째로는 괴리감.
25:46아저왕이라는 분이 또 와주신 분이죠?
25:50그럼 우리가 보통 대국을 하게 되면.
25:53상대방 기운, 승부호흡 같은 걸 느끼면서 이제.
25:56뭔가 대국을 하게 되는데.
25:58뭐 이분이야 뭐.
26:00그냥 옮겨주신 분이잖아요.
26:02의도가 있으신 분이 아니잖아요.
26:04그러니까 승부.
26:06그런 기운이나 승부호흡을 느낄 수가 없습니다.
26:09그게.
26:10막상 겪어보니까.
26:11그런 생소한 괴리감이 크게 다가오더라고요.
26:15사실 제 실력을 받지 못했어요.
26:17그래서 제가 일국 지고 나서 어떻게 인터뷰를 했냐면.
26:21네.
26:23막 이렇게 넘어갔습니다.
26:24아마 충격적으로 그렇게 했지만 실제 마음가심.
26:27아이고 감사하고 다 이기죠.
26:29제발.
26:31제 실력만 발휘하면 뭐.
26:34아이씨.
26:35아이씨.
26:36한 게 낯설어가지고.
26:37네.
26:37아이씨.
26:38은근히 그 힘드네요.
26:39그러면서.
26:39아이씨.
26:41근데 진짜.
26:42이국 딱 도는데.
26:43다 충격적이었죠.
26:46진짜 힘 한 번 못 써보고.
26:48그냥 쫙 내려버렸죠.
26:49일방적으로.
26:50제일 중요한 게.
26:52징계 문제가 아닙니다.
26:53왜 저 놈들이 모르겠어요.
26:55아아.
26:56폐착을 모르겠어요.
26:57그걸 알아야 되는데.
26:59무엇을 실수를 했는지를 알아야 될 거 아닙니까.
27:01폐착을 알아야 해도 실마를 풀어갈 수 있으니까.
27:03네.
27:03심지어는요.
27:04이국은 연구를 많이 했습니다.
27:06도대체 뭐.
27:07무슨 일이 벌어진 건가.
27:09왜 졌나.
27:12근데 사실.
27:13우리 인간 풀어드는 걸 못 찾았습니다.
27:16포르빠두 기사님들 사이에서.
27:19분위기가 굉장히 심각해졌겠어요.
27:20심각적이었죠.
27:22이국.
27:22진짜 분위기가 심각해질 것 같아.
27:24뭘 알아요.
27:25이세돌이 여기 실수해서.
27:27아.
27:27실리사관님 문제가 맞네.
27:28이런 식의.
27:29책임 전가라도.
27:31제가 뒀으니까요.
27:32근데 이세돌이 어디서 실수하셨지.
27:35서로가 모르는 거예요.
27:37대국 강가자는 저도 모르고.
27:38어떻게 지켜본 그 기사들도.
27:41이게 충격적으로 받아들일 수밖에 없는 거죠.
27:44그리고 나서 다음날이 삼국이에요.
27:48사실상 이익을 수가 없었습니다.
27:50너무 데이터도 부족했고요.
27:52너무 충격이 컸어요.
27:54컴퓨터 1200여대를 연결한 알파고의 막강함이 서서히 드러나면서.
27:59176수만의 패배를 인정했습니다.
28:05그 책을 보면 호텔에 돌아왔잖아요.
28:07패배를 하고.
28:09호텔에 돌아왔는데 아무런 기억이 없다고 해요.
28:11아니 그건 제 아내 입장에서 글을 써놓은 건데요.
28:26제 아내가 바둑을 전혀 몰라요.
28:28그래서 바둑 얘기를 하면 이게 횡설수설로 들릴 거예요.
28:32왜 나한테 이런 얘기를 하시 뭐 이런.
28:35근데 저는 또 뭐라도 얘기를 하면 좀 풀리고.
28:39그 와이프한테.
28:41참 어떻게 웃으나 이렇게.
28:42야 이렇게 웃으면 어땠을까.
28:44그 와이프가.
28:47그래서 그 와이프 입장에서는.
28:50정말 이 사람이 약간 정신이 나갔구나.
28:52평소와는 좀 다른 느낌의.
28:54그랬을 것 같아요.
28:56그날의 결혼 개념일이었어요.
28:58그렇더라고요.
28:59결혼 10주년입니다.
29:01그 골딘 마인드에서 축하한다고.
29:03시험 때 나는 원래.
29:04아이씨 어찌나 약오르든지.
29:06뭐야.
29:07무슨 뭘 축하해 지금.
29:10저는 당연히 제가 3대0으로 이기고.
29:12지금 막 이걸 즐기려고 막 준비해가지고.
29:15근데 뭐가 바뀌었잖아 지금 이게.
29:173패를 보냈어요.
29:20이건 책이 없었는데.
29:22아 진짜 얼마나 약오르든지.
29:24그러면서 이제 참 재미있습니다.
29:26이게 왜냐면요.
29:27그 뒤에 바로.
29:29인류에게 희망을 준 이제.
29:3278소가 나옵니다.
29:33우리는 이런 걸 신의 한수라고 하는 거죠?
29:35네.
29:35좀 민망합니다.
29:37아니지.
29:38맞았나요?
29:39여기서 알파고가 패배를 선언했습니다.
29:45드디어 알파고를 이기는 방법을 찾아냈다는 분석공.
29:48알파고가 완벽하지만은 않다는 게 드러났다는 목소리로 나왔습니다.
29:58한국에서 특초반에 승부를 걸은 그런 작전을 실패했어요.
30:03그러니까 잘못된 작전이에요.
30:04타국에 이제 중반전.
30:0650수에서 100수 사이에 승부를 걸었는데.
30:09근데 저는 뭐 대단한 그게 아니라.
30:12후반전 안 돼요.
30:13왜냐하면 너무 돌수가 많아지면.
30:15이 알파고 연산 능력을 감안하면 완벽하게 들어오겠죠.
30:19그 초반?
30:20그건.
30:21제가 안 돼서 안 됩니다.
30:23사람이 안 돼서 안 됩니다.
30:25네.
30:26그럼 결국 중반전 승부를 할 수밖에 없었던 거예요.
30:30사실상.
30:31근데 거기서 이제 어떻게 해야 되느냐.
30:34정상적으로는 못 이기는 겁니다.
30:36정수대로 도서는 못 이기는 겁니다.
30:38그럼 알파고를 찾기 위해서는?
30:40버그를 일으켜야 되는 거죠.
30:42알파고가 우리에게 기술적으로 충격을 준 부분이 하나 있습니다.
30:46뭐냐면 배제하는 거예요.
30:49예전에 바둑 프로그램 같은 경우에는
30:52우리 사람은 생각하지 않는 그런 것까지 다 생각을 했어야 돼요.
30:57말이 안 되는 자기도 컴퓨터는 생각을 했어야 돼요.
31:00근데 알파고는 배제를 합니다.
31:01전혀 불필요한 그런 것들 연산을 하지 않아요.
31:05배제를 내버립니다.
31:06근데 그게 초창기잖아요.
31:09거기서 약간씩 배제하지 않아야 될 것도 배제를 내버려요.
31:13그 부분이 하나 있고요.
31:15하나가 시간이 정해져 있었습니다.
31:17타이머가.
31:18한 수를 두는데
31:2010든 어렵든
31:21얘는 50초인가에 둬야 돼요.
31:24예상 위에 어떤 자리를 제가 뒀을 때
31:272, 3분 있으면 상관이 없어요.
31:29근데 얘는 50초 안에 둬야 돼요.
31:32거기서 버그가 일어나는 겁니다.
31:35명확하게.
31:36형세가 다소 불리했던 대국 중반.
31:39이세돌 구단이 회심의 한 수
31:4178수를 흑돌 사이에 놓습니다.
31:44이 승부수에 알파고는 이해하기 힘든 수들을
31:47바둑판 이곳저곳에 연발했습니다.
31:52결국 이기는 기계 알파고는 자멸했습니다.
31:55바둑을 좋아해주시고 박수 놓쳐주시고 그런데
31:59저도 바둑에 있어서 신념, 철학 같은 게 있을 거잖아요.
32:05네.
32:07정면을 위배되는 수죠.
32:12저는 최선의 정수가 아닌 걸 알고
32:16의도적으로 이렇게 둔 거는
32:18그대로 처음인자 마지막일 겁니다.
32:22본인의 바둑은 아니다.
32:26저도 핀치에 몰렸고요.
32:29그런데 저만 핀치에 몰린 게 아니잖아요.
32:31제 아내 아이가 같이 있었습니다.
32:34호텔에 같이 있었고 제 동료, 지인 다 같이 있었죠.
32:39저를 응원해 주신 분들도 많이 계셨고요.
32:42제가 만약에 저만의 패배라고 생각을 했으면
32:46그냥 그렇게 뒀을 겁니다.
32:49어떤 위로, 최고의 위로가 되고 싶고.
32:52저는 바둑을 예술로 배웠습니다.
32:58예술적인 관점에서 보면
33:02그런 승패는 작품을 만들어가는 과정에서 나오는
33:06그냥 하나의 부산물에 불과한 거거든요.
33:09성부 집착에서 본인이 대하수를 두지 못했을 때는
33:13아파하시는 거죠.
33:15그럼요.
33:15괴로워하는 게 아니고 괴로운 수준이 아니고 뭐.
33:19사랑과의 대구였으면 절대 하지 않겠죠.
33:21물론 통하지도 않겠지만.
33:24참 아이러니한 게
33:26본인에게는 제일 아픈 수였는데
33:28또 결과적으로 보니까 인류에게는 희망을 준 하수가 됐습니다.
33:32제가 그런데 3국 때 남긴 게 있죠.
33:35그러니까 이 세도리인 것이 인간이 필요한 것은 아니다.
33:37라는 멋진 멘트를 남겨요.
33:42아주 나이스 타이밍.
33:44참지도 못하고.
33:46이야, 그럼요.
33:50그러니까 알파고와의 대전으로 이제
33:52삶에 또 다른 전환점이 생기는데
33:56은퇴에서는 합니다.
33:57네.
33:58어떻게 은퇴에서는 하시게 됐습니까?
33:59네.
34:002017년도에 알파고 마스터 버전, 상위 버전이죠.
34:03네.
34:04이건 방법이 없겠더라고요.
34:06정말 우리가 생각하지 못한 수준이 많이 둡니다.
34:10한계를 느껴요.
34:11그러니까 이기고 지고의 문제가 아니었습니다.
34:14바둑의 흐름이 완전히 바뀌었습니까?
34:16완전히.
34:18이렇게 두는 거구나.
34:20감탄을 하면서 봐요.
34:21진짜 왜 이렇게 쉬운 것들을 왜 우리는 몰랐냐.
34:25물론 어려운 수들도 있었어요.
34:27그런데 정말 쉬운 수들도 있습니다.
34:30그게 일종의 고정관념 같은 거죠.
34:32그 충격도 있었는데
34:34바둑 프로그램이 그때부터 짝 갈립니다.
34:37그리고 그걸 보고 이제
34:40프로 기사들도 공부하는 시대가 열린 겁니다.
34:43이게 달라요.
34:44알파고리와 알파고마스터는
34:46인간의 기보를 학습을 했습니다.
34:48알파고리 제로는 인간의 기보를 학습하지 않았습니다.
34:51룰만 가르쳐주고
34:52자체적으로 대국을 통해서 학습을 했습니다.
34:56자, 여기서 무슨 문제가 생기냐.
34:57인간의 기보를 학습하지 않았기 때문에
34:59저는 이해를 못합니다.
35:02얘가 왜 이렇게 둡는지를 몰라요.
35:05복귀가 안 되는 거네요.
35:06쭉 보면 이해가 되는 경우도 있어요.
35:09아, 이렇게 해서 이렇게 둡구나.
35:11끝까지 모르는 경우도 있습니다.
35:13평소에 바둑을 두셨는데
35:15바둑이잖아요.
35:16그런데 내가 아는 바둑이 아닌 거죠?
35:20질 수 있다든지
35:22뭐 사람한테도 지는 거기 때문에요.
35:24그러면 질 수 있다든지더라도.
35:27제가 이해를 못한다는 거는
35:29진짜 생각을 못해 봤습니다.
35:32그건 다른 거죠.
35:34지고 이기고와 다른 거죠.
35:37교수님.
35:39그래서 떠나신 겁니까?
35:41그 영향이 굉장히 컸죠.
35:45그러면 제가 바둑을 두는 의미는 뭡니까?
35:51물론 지금 두고 있는 바둑들은 의미가 없다는 건 아니고요.
35:56차원 제가 생각했던 의미는 사라졌지 않습니까?
35:59개인적인 의미는 사라진 거죠.
36:01네.
36:02아, 정말.
36:04네.
36:06힘들었던 말씀.
36:07아니, 진짜 너 이게 이해를 못한다.
36:13그렇지만 이 새돌이라는 사람이 이 인공지능에서도 뭔가를 보여주고 은퇴를 했으면 좋겠다라고 제 얘기를 많이 했습니다.
36:24제가 그런데 나는 너무 힘들다.
36:26인공지능 보고 공부를 한다는 것 자체가 나는 너무 힘들다.
36:30정말 죄송합니다.
36:32그분들한테는.
36:34힘들어도 그런 노력하는 모습을 보여드렸어야 했는데
36:39제가 그러지 못했거든요.
36:42네.
36:43솔직한 고백입니다.
36:44우리 동료분들에게도 그렇고.
37:13우리 장강명,
37:15우리 당신이 먼저 나을 수 있는 고통입니다.
37:16The book is written in the book.
37:18What is the book on the book on the book?
37:20Is he supposed to be the two people who are pursuing the future?
37:25What does the story of AI development mean there?
37:30The people who are worried about this is not what it's done.
37:34It's not just it's not what it's done.
37:36I don't think I didn't think I would think.
37:39I don't think I would think I would have to do it.
37:40It's a bit different.
37:45so it's a prism.
37:50So it's a way to act on how to act.
37:52But you might be able to act like that.
37:56But it's true to the human leadership.
37:57It's true to me.
37:59And I don't understand what we're talking about.
38:02I am just a human element of function.
38:05Since society has come this way,
38:08It doesn't look like it's not going to happen.
38:11We live in AI.
38:14AI is still going to change.
38:16But what do you think about it?
38:22It's important to you.
38:23It's important to you.
38:25It's important to you.
38:28I think it's important to you.
38:32Yes.
38:35It's important to you.
38:36It's important to you.
38:37Yeah, like I do-
38:39I think the idea is better.
38:42After AI in their life,
38:44you've got to use what theory we know about?
38:50Yes.
38:52It's a nice technique that we learn about.
38:53You're a good année?
38:54Well, that's why it's a huge thing.
38:55First that's the first thing.
39:00It's important to you.
39:02You can't really get to your secondary,
39:04and you'll do it.
39:05and also the responsibility of the person who lives in the world.
39:08Hi.
39:10You're a bardo.
39:12That's a bad thing.
39:14This is a good point.
39:17It's good.
39:19You didn't have to do anything like that?
39:21So, I made a bardo.
39:24I made a bardo.
39:26I made a bardo.
39:27You made a bardo game?
39:32You made the game?
39:33Yes, it is.
39:34So?
39:37It's like a simple story.
39:41Then it's hard to get a question.
39:44But I hope you would enjoy this.
39:46You've been looking for a couple of years for the past.
39:50You've been looking for a couple of years?
39:58So you've been looking for a couple of years?
40:00I really like that.
40:02I really like that.
40:04If you don't know what to do.
40:06I'm just a kid.
40:09It's a good time.
40:11It's a true person.
40:13It's a true person.
40:15Now, I'm going to go to the next one.
40:23I'm going to go to the next one.
40:25I forgot to leave it alone.
40:26Yes, I'm going to go to the next one.
40:28That's right.
40:29We have a refund.
40:31I can get this.
40:35I'm going to ask you to to the next one.
40:37Now I have a chance to establish a new book.
40:44It finished.
40:48It was the new book to the next one.
40:49It's my new book to the next one.
40:54Yes, it's true.
40:57Oh, but...
40:59It's so it's a book.
41:02It's true.
41:03The book of the universe is based on what I mean by the universe is
41:09which is a kind of a positive.
41:10I'm not sure if I'm not sure what I mean by the universe is
41:10to read the book.
41:14So I always read the book of the book
41:17I'm going to be a few thousand years ago.
41:21I'm going to give you a gift to the GERED DIAMOND.
41:28I'm really good.
41:29I'm so glad to read it.
41:31You can see your own life in your life.
41:36I'm so sorry about this.
41:40It's not just a word.
41:42I'm not just talking about this.
41:44So I had an interview with him, but I think it's different from him.
41:52It's different from him.
41:56Thank you very much.
41:58I think he's very important to me.
41:59I think he's very important to me.
42:06I'm going to go to the next stage.
42:10I'm going to be able to live in my life.
42:14The most beautiful city is the world of the Gang호동.
42:20Today's the best place to read the E-Sat-Long.
42:24How are you?
42:26The story of the D-Sat-Long.
42:27The story of the D-Sat-Long.
42:29I don't have a book, but I don't have a book.
42:32I don't have a book.
42:36It's a good film.
42:37It's a good film.
42:38It was really good for me.
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