00:00But the Commander's logo apparently is going to be revealed
00:03and the new helmets and the new uniforms.
00:06There are some people that believe that they know what it's going to look like
00:11and that there was a leak.
00:15And I don't know.
00:16It's pretty underwhelming if you buy into the picture of the sweatshirt,
00:23if you know what I'm talking about.
00:25I've retweeted it at Junk's radio.
00:29So this leak came out by somebody that follows uniforms.
00:33I'm forgetting his name right now.
00:35And we have it on our Facebook page too, facebook.com slash thejunks.
00:40And it's the W and it's a spear going through it.
00:46Right.
00:47You're not loving it?
00:48And it looks like it was done in 10 seconds.
00:50To me, it looks like AI slop.
00:52It looks like chat GPT slop, canvas slop.
00:56Yeah.
00:57I'm going to guess that the actual logo that comes out at 10 a.m.
01:03It's going to look markedly better than whatever AI slop that you're referencing.
01:09Yeah.
01:09I'll say this.
01:10I do think that there is a more, I'm not going to say 3D,
01:15but that's like a very 2D image, right, on that sweatshirt.
01:18I don't know how else to describe it.
01:20I wish it got articulated better.
01:21I saw another image where it almost looked like it was a patch.
01:25You know, it had some texture to it.
01:27And it had like a white and yellow.
01:30And the spear was a little bit more defined.
01:32That looked a little better.
01:34But by and large, I think that look is stupid.
01:3910 a.m. can't get here quick enough.
01:41Because I just need to see the real McCoy.
01:43I don't want to see everybody's artist renderings or the new uniform setups
01:48and the primary word marks and the secondary.
01:51Stop with it already.
01:53The thing is with the image that JP retweeted...
02:13And the W, and then they had the spears crossed.
02:16Yeah, that was like a weird alternate emblem or something that they're doing.
02:19That one sucked too.
02:21It came out of the same chat GPT computer.
02:25So the original tweet...
02:27To my opinion.
02:27And if you want to chime in, 1-800-636-1067.
02:30If you've seen this, the original tweet came from somebody named Andrew DeFrank.
02:36He said, according to Reddit,
02:39At Homage posted and deleted this about an hour ago.
02:43So it was on Reddit.
02:44And then that guy Cohen, Zach Cohen, the uniform guy, said,
02:49I can confirm this will be a new Commander's alternate logo
02:54to be unveiled tomorrow with the new burgundy jersey and updated black uniform.
03:02So, if it is, it is very underwhelming.
03:06But don't Commander's fans slash Skins fans who want the name back
03:10and the old logo and all that, don't they at least want the spear?
03:14Don't they want something that correlates with Redskins?
03:17I think you're going to get the spear in some iteration.
03:20I feel like it's going to be a black helmet, maybe not the glossy black helmet,
03:26like a matte black helmet with the spear, is my guess on the helmet.
03:29I was going to say, what if it didn't have the W, just the spear?
03:33That's what I think is happening.
03:34Much better.
03:34That would be pretty cool.
03:35This spear also looks very simple.
03:37That's the thing that's throwing me.
03:38The spear looks terrible.
03:39That's a terrible spear.
03:40In that two-dimensional image that we're seeing on the burgundy sweatshirt.
03:46The problem I have is that every diehard fan that puts out some imagery
03:53of what they think the helmet or uniform should be
03:57is better than what we've seen the team put out.
04:00Every fan that puts out their version, every artist that we have,
04:05is better than this AI slop that we appear to be getting.
04:10But that's not from the team.
04:12That's just computer-generated.
04:14That's very similar to what the team just put out a month ago.
04:17What was that, an emblem or whatever they called that thing?
04:20The alternate?
04:21Did they call it an alternate logo?
04:23The shield?
04:24Whatever that was, that shield thing.
04:25The alt logo?
04:26Yeah, I think that's what they called it.
04:27That thing is terrible.
04:30I don't know how people can't agree.
04:32That thing blows.
04:35It's just not great.
04:38But what do you want?
04:39I don't know.
04:40Anything that any of these diehard fans have come up with.
04:43Look at what Zabin retweeted.
04:45Zabin inadvertently retweeted a fan's rendering of what he thinks it could be.
04:50Those things all look outstanding.
04:52Looked a lot better.
04:53Outstanding.
04:55If it's this basic one,
04:59that is on the sweatshirt,
05:00it is an absolute whiff.
05:03Yeah, you can't have that.
05:04Can't whiff on this.
05:06Especially because Josh Harris keeps hyping it up.
05:08Like, we got stuff up our sleeve.
05:10Don't want to reveal too much.
05:11Like, it should be something that I think will get the fan base excited,
05:17whatever it winds up being.
05:18But to your question, Jason, I don't think it has to be a spear,
05:21but they seem to be leaning into the spear.
05:24We remember Daryl Green doing the bit with the spear last year.
05:28They're trying to drum it up.
05:30Yes.
05:31They're working to incorporate it into their rebrand.
05:35Now, the question, here's a tweet from Ben Schwarmer,
05:39who tweets us,
05:41what does a spear have to do with a commander?
05:45Well, a commander in an ancient culture
05:47maybe uses a spear as a weapon.
05:49Yeah.
05:50I think you could talk your way out of that.
05:51Maybe they definitely use spears as weapons.
05:52And also, it's an obvious reference to the heritage of the franchise.
05:56You could spin it either way.
05:57Yeah.
05:58That doesn't bother me.
05:59I like the spear.
06:00I don't have a problem with the spear.
06:02I have a problem with that dumb, simple spear,
06:04and then just sticking it through a W.
06:07Like, it just doesn't look great.
06:09But maybe it's not that.
06:10Maybe that's not what it's going to be.
06:12My guess is it's probably not that dissimilar.
06:15Yeah, you're right.
06:16But we'll see.
06:17We'll see at 10 o'clock.
06:18I mean, wouldn't the spear fit the Greco-Roman architecture
06:21of the new stadium perfectly?
06:23Yes, it should.
06:23Yeah.
06:24I have no problem incorporating the spears.
06:26Spears great.
06:26It's just that that spear going through that W
06:29and that plain of font or whatever,
06:31it just looks so simple.
06:33It's a tweet.
06:34It's slop-jalop.
06:35Yeah, right.
06:36It literally looks like something you just tapped into grok.
06:39Yeah.
06:39And, you know.
06:40Like, make me a new logo.
06:41Like, a free AI service with some ads in it.
06:45I refuse to believe that's the logo.
06:47I can't.
06:49I hate it.
06:50It angers people.
06:52But think about what they just put out a month ago.
06:56It's right in line with it.
06:57It's just as simple.
06:59It's just as boring.
07:00Just as unimaginative.
07:02Just as uncreative.
07:05What did they call that thing?
07:06A logo or an emblem?
07:08It was like their alternate shield.
07:09Yeah, I think it was all logo.
07:10Their alternate shield.
07:12Whatever the hell that thing was.
07:14That thing sucked.
07:16You're not a fan.
07:17Clearly.
07:17Not a fan.
07:18You just got to be honest.
07:20I love this team.
07:21There it is.
07:22You don't love that.
07:23No, that's...
07:23I have it up on my screen right now.
07:25That's AI slop.
07:27Yeah, and this is just probably some dork in his basement that came up with it, and it's
07:33getting traction now.
07:34No, no.
07:34Because that was put out by the team.
07:36This is officially by the team.
07:37Yes!
07:38That's what I'm telling you, Cakes.
07:39The team issued that.
07:42If this is officially put out by the team, then you may be seeing that in a more prominent
07:47role in about two hours and 30 minutes.
07:49That was put out by the team.
07:50I'm guessing.
07:51Somebody's sending me a...
07:53But again, this could be a work...
07:54This could be a workshop like an early...
07:57No, no, no.
07:57The team said that's their alternate Cressor.
08:00That's already been done.
08:01That is...
08:02That's a given.
08:03That's official.
08:04So you're saying...
08:05That's official.
08:06This is locked in going forward as an official...
08:08He doesn't understand it.
08:09What don't you understand?
08:10We talked about it.
08:11That's been on their website for months.
08:13That is official.
08:14That's right.
08:14I have seen it.
08:16That's official AI slop.
08:18And that's what that W to Spear looks like.
08:20If that is what is on the new helmet, I'm officially not a fan.
08:23What are they calling that?
08:24What are they calling that?
08:26That's a symbol, logo, I don't know.
08:30What are they calling that thing before?
08:31It's got the two spears, the W, and it looks like a coliseum around it and the two stars.
08:36This is an alternate logo.
08:37Alternate logo.
08:38This is an alternate logo that they're using.
08:40That alternate logo would be good with those elements, but that just looks like computer generated.
08:46This cannot be the helmet.
08:48You know what this could be?
08:49This could be on your shoulder.
08:52That could be a shoulder-like design.
08:54That can't be the helmet.
08:56No, it's not the helmet.
08:57No chance it's the helmet.
08:58It's their alternate logo, whatever.
09:00It might be on a shoulder or something.
09:02It's still terrible.
09:04It's too simple.
09:06It's too just auto-generated.
09:09And that's what that W with the spear that's being leaked as potentially part of the unveiling at 10.
09:16And that's what that looks like to me, too.
09:18Now, when Zabin tweeted some fans rendering or something, he said something to the effect of, I'm paraphrasing, this organization
09:30is hitting another home run, hitting it out of the park.
09:32And he later backtracked.
09:33Compared to the past.
09:35Here's my question.
09:36Just setting this up.
09:38Do you have faith that this organization will get it right?
09:42Yes.
09:44So you think that this is not the logo?
09:46I have no reason to believe otherwise, other than...
09:49No, actually, I have no reason to believe one way or the other, although leaning towards botching it because they
09:53botched the alternate logo.
09:54Okay.
09:55Because previous regime, Today Show, We Are the Commanders, total debacle.
10:01It's not going to be that.
10:02Varsity Jackets have Super Bowl dates wrong.
10:04It's impossible for it to be anywhere near that bad.
10:07Okay.
10:07Because that was catastrophic.
10:09You can't be as bad as that.
10:10No.
10:12I think they're going to get it right.
10:14I think they're going to get it right.
10:15That was a master class in how not to rebrand your product.
10:19The priority is honoring our past and then looking to the future, right?
10:24Updating, but not forgetting about our heritage, who we are, and honoring that.
10:31And so we have a bunch of things up our sleeve.
10:35But the problem is not everybody's going to love it and not everyone's going to hate it.
10:39No, there's going to be...
10:39A pickle might love it and the cakes might hate it.
10:42Yes.
10:42I'm going to tell you exactly what I think about it tomorrow morning.
10:47That's going to be the lead story tomorrow morning.
10:50I mean, whatever comes out, people are going to be on both sides.
10:53Totally.
10:53People hate the W.
10:55As Zabin calls it, the taco holder.
10:57It does look like a taco holder.
10:59It's a great nickname for it.
11:00I don't love it.
11:01I've kind of gotten used to it.
11:02I don't love it.
11:03I've kind of gotten used to it.
11:04I think to me it's a C.
11:06Yes, it's math.
11:07It's a C.
11:08It's right down the middle.
11:09It's not terrible and it's certainly not great.
11:12Just use one.
11:13We have some diehard fans that are really artistic that have come up with some great designs.
11:19Well, if you look at the shield or crest or whatever you want to call it, the arrow at the
11:24end of the spear, it's not just block yellow.
11:28Which on this sweatshirt it is.
11:31Just that little touch makes it look better.
11:33It's just the simplest.
11:36It just looks.
11:38But, you know.
11:39Maria tweets us, says, need some feathers on the spear.
11:42Yeah, it needs a lot more detail.
11:45It's brutal.
11:47But hopefully that's not it.
11:49Hopefully that's not it.
11:50Hopefully we're just big to do about nothing and just going to unveil something amazing.
11:54A 10 out of 10.
11:55I think the stadium to me looks like a 10 out of 10.
11:591-800-636-1067 is the number if you're going to chime in.
12:03We're the junkies.
12:04Be right back.
12:04We're the junkies.
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