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00:00Oh my god. Don't do it. Don't do it. Wow, that was so close. It was dangerous.

00:12Hey, what's going on, everybody? For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans. You're watching Hot Ones,

00:16and today we bring you a very special episode brought to you by Stella Artois,

00:20the official beer sponsor of Hot Ones, and I'm thrilled to be joined in the studio with Rachel

00:25Brosnahan. She's an Emmy and Golden Globe Award winning actress. You know from acclaimed performances

00:29in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Superman, the Broadway stage, and much more, but today her scene

00:33partner is a gauntlet of scorching hot chicken wings. Rachel Brosnahan, welcome to the show.

00:38Thank you. How are you around spicy food before we get started?

00:42Like, I'm okay. I enjoy spicy food, but I've never tested myself to this degree before.

01:13Well, before we get into the wings, I want to let you know that we have plenty of Stella

01:16on deck, and I have a feeling they'll come in handy as things begin to escalate, so what

01:21do you say we get started? Cheers. Cheers.

01:31Oh, God.

01:38Mmm. That's delicious.

01:41So since premiering in 2017, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel has become one of the most visually

01:46elaborate productions on television with everything from period recreations to Carnegie Hall to

01:51the Catskills, even scenes with hundreds of extras. What stands out in your memory as the

01:56most jaw-dropping set you've ever walked onto filming that show?

01:59Oh, man. It was one of those jobs where I was constantly reminded how lucky we were to

02:04be there, but also one of those things where movie magic just comes alive in front of you.

02:08We shot this U.S.O. scene with 850 background actors, and they built this stage. It was this

02:16incredible oner that we had rehearsed for days, and it just, the scope of it, the scale of it,

02:22especially for a television show, was unlike anything I'd ever seen before. We felt like rock stars. It

02:28was one of those things where you just wanted to bottle the feeling and hold onto it for a sad

02:31day.

02:32And then Amy Sherman-Palladino has this very unique writing style, rhythmic, almost musical. It makes me

02:38wonder, what are the kinds of highly specific notes or direction that you get in between takes

02:43regarding your character's dialogue? Mostly you just hear Amy from off set somewhere going,

02:48faster, pace, pace, pace. You know, she would just yell at us all the time, but that was mostly the

02:53note.

02:53Faster, faster, faster, pace, pace, pace. Well, on the topic of pace, pace, pace,

02:57are you ready to move on here to the next wave? Yeah, let's blow through it.

03:08Oh, so great. Okay. I see another affirming nod. Yeah. So far, so good. Delicious. I know it's

03:13going to get bad, but enjoy it while you have it. Exactly. I'm grateful. Thank you, Sean. So you

03:19studied drama at NYU, which has all of these different schools that specialize in different

03:24acting techniques. What kind of Hogwarts hat sorting process went into your decision to become a disciple

03:31of Lee Strasberg? Wow. A disciple. I love that. I wish that I had anything to do with it. Mostly,

03:36you're just a terrified 17 year old getting shoved into a room with people behind a clipboard and

03:43you do a monologue and you're like, just trying not to shit your pants and cry. And then they sort

03:49of look at you and then somebody goes, Strasberg, you know, or, or what's this? Meisner. Yeah.

03:54What's the Slytherin equivalent? I wonder. Uh, would that be Adler? Let's go with that. Adler,

04:00you know? And, uh, yeah, I have no idea. They, they must, they get it right most of the time,

04:05I think. So they must be able to see something in people who come in. Can you explain what sense

04:09memory is and then maybe use an example of how you might use it to inform a performance? I had

04:15a drama teacher say once that you should never tell anyone about this because they think you're

04:20fucking crazy. So I preface this by it's, it's crazy. We're all crazy. No one gets into this because

04:28we're well adjusted and normal. My understanding of it is that it's the idea that your body remembers

04:34things that your brain might not. One of the ways it was explained to me was that, you know,

04:39for example, if you had experienced snow when you were three years old, you might not remember what

04:44snow felt like, but your body does. And so you could, in theory, draw upon that experience sensorily to

04:53make something happen for yourself, some kind of feeling. But ultimately, you end up with a toolbox

04:57of things that you can pretty reliably draw upon to evoke some kind of emotion.

05:11I feel it. Yeah, there's a little kick at the end here. To me, uh, in the back of the

05:17throat. Oh yeah,

05:17there it goes. Shared experience, Rachel. Yeah. You've performed at Steppenwolf, the New York

05:24Theatre Workshop, Brooklyn Academy of Music, Broadway and beyond. What is pound for pound your favorite

05:30theater to perform in and what makes it the perfect room for a stage actor? Oh, what a lovely question.

05:37Man, they've, they've all been so different. Those theaters are all completely different from each

05:42other. I have such a fond relationship to the Steppenwolf because I'm from Chicago. Same. Oh,

05:47right. I forgot about that. Where are you from? Crystal Lake. Right. Highland Park. Yeah,

05:51yeah. North suburbs, Northwest. Okay. Um, yeah. I mean, I love that theater. I grew up going to see

05:56shows at the Steppenwolf and it's such an intimate space, but you really are standing on the shoulders

06:03of giants in that arena. And it was my first professional theater production. Was that Up? Up. Oh my

06:10god. Yeah. Wow. You really do dig. Yeah. Up. Exactly. That was one of those moments, which happened

06:17over and over again, if you're lucky, where I was like, I think I was 18 and I was like,

06:21I think this

06:21is it. I think this is the dream. It was amazing. Notes of Peach. Yeah, at first. And then the

06:31habanero

06:32really kicks in in the second act. Uh-huh. I'm starting to see where we're going with this. I'm

06:38starting to see homegrown hell approaching fast. It is approaching fast too, by the way. It's still

06:43nice though. Mm-hmm. I like the flavors. We can still enjoy what we have. You had a quote where

06:49you

06:49talked about how the role of Lois Lane was the closest you've ever played to yourself. What was it

06:54about that role that hit so close to home? She can be kind of obsessive. She can be kind of

06:59intense.

07:00I understand that. I think when I really care about something, I can also be kind of intense

07:06about it. I appreciate someone and, you know, hope that I can do that myself, who will go to the

07:14ends

07:14of the earth for the things that they believe in. Is it easier or harder to approach a character like

07:19Lois Lane that has 75 years worth of mythology built up through comic books and other kinds of media?

07:24Probably both, because in some ways there's so much material to draw from,

07:29and there's so many different interpretations, both on screen and also by different comic book

07:34artists and writers over the years. And so there was such a wealth of material to draw from.

07:41But then obviously there's the pressure to do right by the fans who love this character so much.

07:45And have their own kind of ownership over it, yeah.

07:47Totally. And like, and they're right, you know? And so we're just trying to fill these really big shoes and

07:54and make them happy, but also hopefully bring something new to it as well.

08:06I think that this is a nice checkpoint on the mountain, you know, as we approach the summit of

08:11this whole experience. Yeah. Where is the summit, would you say?

08:14Right after this one, you know? Perfect.

08:16We're going to dab. Great.

08:17We're going to rip it, and then we're going to get a beautiful view from the top of the mountain,

08:21all right? So a detail that doesn't get brought up enough is that you wrestled for two years while

08:25at Highland Park High School. Yeah.

08:27What drew you to the mat? And do you see any similarities between acting and wrestling?

08:31Totally. To the second part, it's hugely improvisational. You're really just watching

08:37someone closely and listening to them and trying to react to them in real time. What drew me to it,

08:44I, a lot of my friends had been wrestling since junior high, and I'd always kind of been interested

08:49in it. I'm not sure. I was really competitive. I snowboarded with a bunch of guys who wrestled and

08:55had always just been curious about it. And you were a snowboard instructor too, right?

08:58I was, yeah. For a couple years out in Wisconsin. That's like the nearest, very icy.

09:04Yeah. There's a couple mountains there, very small ones. And yeah, a couple buddies did it.

09:10And I was, my parents were horrified and never came to a match until like the very end of my

09:17wrestling career. And then I, then I, I opted for musical theater, which was a poor choice.

09:23I can't sing or dance. Imagine what would have happened if you really just doubled down on

09:27wrestling, you know? I could have had a very different life. I would have been on GLOW,

09:31is what would have happened. What's it like going back to high school after

09:34doing a Michael Bay movie? Like does your popularity skyrocket or do you return to more of the same?

09:39I don't think that many people knew that I had done it. I, because truthfully,

09:45I wasn't, I don't think I was well known for my acting talent in high school. I like barely made

09:51the school plays and was mostly in the chorus and, but just loved it and was maybe insane to think

09:58that

09:58I could actually do it. The naivete of youth. Yeah, exactly. And so I, I started looking for

10:03opportunity outside of school because I wanted to act and wasn't really, you know, hadn't made,

10:09hadn't made enough musicals at that point. And, um, and had this opportunity when that movie,

10:14The Unborn came through Chicago, nothing was different. I mean, my parents were still mad at

10:18me for not getting straight A's and, and I think my friends thought it was fun. Missing the AP calc

10:22exam

10:22and on and on. Yeah, exactly. Wow. You really dug deep.

10:32Things are changing. Yeah. This is another step. It really announces that we're in the back half at

10:38this point. Yeah. Taste still great. Really, um, at first. But then, yeah, you're a little more awake

10:46now. Yeah. And, uh, I'm awake. Yeah. Same, same page, same wavelength right now. Great. Have you ever

10:53had a moment in your career where you feel like you gave everything to a scene only to have it

10:57cut

10:57from the TV show or film? And if so, is that a painful experience or just the cost of doing

11:02business

11:03as an actor? I've definitely had things that were cut, but I, I feel like so far I can recognize

11:10that it's usually for the betterment of the story as a whole. Like it helps the pace or it helps

11:14clarify something for the central character, but I can't wait to get fully cut out of something

11:19sometime in my future. I hate to say it out loud, but I have yet to be fired and that's

11:23a rite of

11:24passage that, you know, we all deserve to have at some point. What would you estimate to be your

11:28personal record for most takes ever requested by a director while shooting a single scene?

11:33I had the privilege of being on the first season of House of Cards and, uh, and David Fincher

11:40directed the pilot. I had been warned that he likes to do a number of takes. I don't know how

11:45many it was,

11:46but we did so many takes of my first scene, which was a scene where Michael Kelly, who played Doug

11:51Stamper, put a wad of money in my mouth. And by the time we were done, I literally, I couldn't

11:58see him anymore. Like there was a light behind him. Like there is you right now. And at some point

12:03you just stop being able to see your scene partner, which maybe is the point. I don't know. Maybe

12:07there's something to, you know, you do a couple of takes and they're fine. And then everything's

12:12horrible for a really long time. And if you're lucky you push through and something magical.

12:18Find that magic after you push through. Honestly, not that different from the experience

12:23right here. Cause here we are. Six down. Great transition. Take out a great deal of pride in the segue.

12:37And this to me is another jump. Significant jump. Whoa.

12:51So I understand that your father worked in children's publishing. I know that you're an avid

12:55reader. I've heard you describe yourself as an Anglophile. If you could adapt one fantasy novel

13:01from your youth to turn into a film, what would it be? Oh my God. Don't do it. Don't do

13:08it. Wow.

13:08That was so close. It was dangerous. I'm just going to cry openly. Yeah. There was a lesser known

13:14series called Daughters of the Moon that I read alongside no one else. Um, one second,

13:23please. Take your time. Holy shit. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm going to do this because I haven't.

13:31That's a veteran move with my wrist. I do that sometimes too.

13:35Uh, wow. What was the question? Oh, Daughters of the Moon. Um, I, I tried a couple of years back

13:42to

13:42adapt that into a television series and I'd still love to. It's about these four young women

13:48who are just trying to be normal high schoolers and, um, and learn that they have magical powers.

13:54And I think it's really empowering to young women and, um, and they, and they deserve to have that.

14:01Yeah. So one day look out for Daughters of the Moon. Yeah.

14:10I do think this is helping. No, it does. Beer is a good lifeline. Okay.

14:17If you're ready to move on. Yeah. Great. Let's go. This is the bomb beyond insanity.

14:23Be careful. Uh, do you ever say a prayer? Yeah. In my head.

14:27Yeah. How's it go? Yeah. Will you say one for us? Who are we looking at?

14:34Looking out to the spice gods. Yeah. Please give us the strength to make it all the way to the

14:40end.

14:40We know that you'll challenge us. Are you looking down at hell right now?

14:43With the bomb beyond insanity. It's, it's helpful to look up and down.

14:47You were like, to heaven and to hell. Yeah. Whoever's going to help us out here.

14:51I'll take it from either side. Great. No lips. D. Oh God. Oh God. Too big. Fuck. Oh no.

15:04Wow. Oh no. Yeah. Just be careful. Hands.

15:13Just look cool. We'll just stay like this for a while.

15:18Wings fly through this. What I've done is I've pulled some of Midge's most iconic looks.

15:23Mm-hmm. We're going to pull them up over here on the monitor.

15:25Right. And I'm just kind of curious what the costume says.

15:30I'm sobbing. Is there anything significant

15:33about the color pink in wardrobe choices? What do I do? Um, uh, probably. Um, our costume designer,

15:43Donna, they used to, they, Amy used to say that Donna discovered, holy shit, um, so many new

15:52shades of pink. Um, she invented shades of pink for this show. Um, that one, I don't know what it's

16:01called. Up next, I believe Donna described red as a power color. Do you agree? And what role does it

16:09play in the costume here? Am I sweating? Yeah. Do I look how red do I look? You know how

16:14you were

16:14talking about not being able to see a scene partner just the left behind you? You can't see me anymore?

16:18That's kind of where I'm at right now. Yes, I'm sure it is a power color in some states. And,

16:24um,

16:25New York was one of them on this day. Up next, what makes this the right fit for attending a

16:31friend's

16:31wedding after a falling out? I mean, you know, it's like conservative in some ways, but there's a

16:37good like boob cutout so that you can steal the attention. Yeah. You know, you want people to look

16:44at you and take you seriously. And then lastly, have you ever had a time where wardrobe has failed

16:50you during a shoot? You know, you do a lot of high fashion running, you know, it makes me wonder

16:55has a heel ever snapped or anything like that. I'm going to put that on my resume. Um,

17:00a heel has definitely snapped on on the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel more than once. And it's tough when

17:05they're vintage because there's no replacement. So if you look really closely, you can probably see

17:11some, um, wow, I'm really sweating. You can probably see some, uh, lack of continuity with the

17:17shoes. How are we feeling? We are feeling so many things. I don't know what we just looked at.

17:24Here's the good news. Nothing is as bad as what you just ate. You just ate the worst one.

17:29Yes. I think you're lying. No, I don't. I'm actually,

17:32it's a chicken wing talk show host of the highs of dignity. I don't know. There's something about

17:36your eyes. I can't taste it anymore. Oh man.

17:50It helps. For the uninitiated, what makes Xenon Girl of the 21st Century a goaded children's movie?

17:57I mean, her one earring. She inspired a generation of fashion girlies. She had a computer chip on her

18:04ear. Nothing says Y2K more than that. I would love a Xenon Girl of the 21st Century reunion.

18:12Broadway adaptation, maybe. A Broadway adaptation. I shall not be performing the lead role.

18:23So this is the last dab. We call it the last dab because it's tradition around here to put a

18:27little

18:27extra on the last wing. You don't have to, if you don't want to. You're doing it. You're doing it.

18:32I'm going to take it. Okay. Hold on. How do we get in there? I can give you mine if

18:37it's tough with

18:37the nails. I don't know if that's a fresh manicure. I don't know. It is, but fuck it up. We're

18:42here.

18:43We're here. That's good. That's good. That's good. I just do a little dip and rip. This is

18:49something to be proud of. We've gotten all the way. This is something to be proud of. You're

18:53exactly right. This is a moment. Cheers. Cheers. Is that too much? Am I going to die?

18:58You know, we're going out of a thing. Don't say up, Sean.

19:05Oh God. And with that,

19:09the wings of death are behind us. Hey. And to close things out,

19:15Tonally, what's the difference between your natural speaking voice and the way that your

19:19character talks? Like how would Midge describe conquering the wings of death today? I feel like

19:24Midge would be like, fuck you, Sean. Get my, get my tits up. And she'd have some excellent joke

19:33that I'm too, um, to come up with right now. Spiced out. Spiced out. Is that the professional

19:39term? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the industry specific vernacular. To come up with right now.

19:43No, I feel like Midge talks at, at 10 times the speed that I can in my real life. And

19:48you know,

19:48to be honest, a lot of that was brought on by, by corset and Amy off camera being like,

19:54talk faster, talk faster. And there was only one way to do it. And so that just became,

19:59became Midge's voice. Well, look at you, Rachel Rosnahan taking on the wings of death. Don't look

20:05too closely. Living to tell the tale. And now there's nothing left to do, but cheers with Estella

20:10to the summit and the beautiful view. Cheers to the beautiful view. Thank you for this adventure.

20:17And now there's nothing left to do, but roll out the red carpet for you. This camera, this camera,

20:21this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life. I'm currently shooting the second

20:26season of presumed innocent for Apple and, uh, and shortly going to start shooting the next

20:31Superman film, man of tomorrow. Thank y'all.

20:41Worse than you thought it would be what you thought it would be.

20:43I wasn't sure I'd be able to make it to the end. So, so better.

20:48Competitiveness.

20:49I learned something about myself today.

20:51That's exactly right.

20:52I'm sobbing.

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