00:00And Clint, he had something to say about this position group, the tight end position.
00:04And Dalton Schultz, I thought, was a borderline pro bowler last year, had a great season
00:12and one of the best tight end seasons in the history of the franchise.
00:15He is there, but then it's really just a lot of up in the air behind it.
00:20And you have been big for a few weeks now talking about you.
00:25You would love for them to be aggressive to go up and get Sadiq, the tight end out of Oregon.
00:31Could be a real game changer for this offense.
00:33Here was Nick Casario yesterday to the joint media talking about that tight end room.
00:40With our group, I mean, you know, we got a lot of guys in some different categories.
00:44You know, Brevin's had a couple years here, unfortunately, where he's had some injuries, set him back.
00:48So, I mean, he's a player that we've liked having in the building.
00:50So, honestly, it's probably TBD with him a little bit.
00:53But he's a great kid. He's got a good attitude.
00:54Look, he's been here working his tail off.
00:56So, I mean, he's got a great spirit.
00:58You know, everybody's rooting for Brevin.
01:00There's a little bit of an unknown there of what we actually have.
01:02All right.
01:03You know, there's some question marks if we're just being real, you know.
01:05But, I mean, we think there's some players there that potentially can help us.
01:08So, what other opportunities that leads to in the draft?
01:11Like, we'll kind of see what that looks like.
01:13All right.
01:13That's Nick Casario talking about the tight end room.
01:15And, Clint, listen, this is a position group that we look at.
01:21And I think you can look at this group and compare it to a lot of areas on this offense.
01:26And that is, they're solid, but it could be more explosive.
01:31There could be more of an impact there for that position group.
01:36And it would seem, Clint, that they have a player that Nick spoke about that may fit that.
01:43Right?
01:43I looked at Brevin Jordan, his strengths.
01:47Yards after catch.
01:48Open field ability.
01:50Versatile receiving threat.
01:51He possesses excellent natural athleticism and change of direction skills.
01:56Like, those were the strengths.
01:58And we've actually seen it a bit.
02:00Nobody forgets the playoff game against Cleveland where he took 170 on a short pass and showed all of that.
02:07So, he actually has a lot of what they're looking for.
02:12But how do you view Brevin Jordan?
02:15How do you judge Brevin Jordan?
02:17Is he somebody that you can look at and try to pencil in and say,
02:21All right, we've got Dalton, but then this is the guy that can be the explosive thing,
02:27that could be the offensive.
02:28Maybe that's what the plan is.
02:29Look, Ron, the quickest way for the Texans' offense to improve is at the tight end position right now.
02:35Where they sit right now, the tight end room is where they can improve.
02:38To your question specifically about Brevin Jordan is, you know,
02:42there's a reason why these uber-athletic first kind of tight ends don't stick anywhere.
02:48Right?
02:48I mean, Jonu Smith is athletic as you could imagine.
02:51I mean, seems to show out everywhere he goes, but he's bouncing around to it.
02:55I bet he's got six jerseys hanging on his wall right now.
02:57Yeah.
02:57Right?
02:57And so you look at that, that's who Brevin Jordan is at his best.
03:00He's like a Jonu Smith type player.
03:02Right?
03:03And so you look at that, and then you go, okay, what are the Texans trying to do?
03:06The Texans are trying to move mass up front, be a physical run team.
03:10Does that fit Brevin Jordan?
03:12Absolutely not.
03:13Right?
03:13Okay, let's look at Nick Cayley, the offensive coordinator.
03:16Is he a guy that takes a weapon and builds an offense around him?
03:19The answer is absolutely not.
03:21And so the question is, where does Brevin Jordan fit in?
03:24It's not, is he a good tight end or not?
03:25Can he help a team win or not?
03:26Can he help an offense produce or not?
03:28Where does Brevin fit in with the Houston Texans if he can even stay healthy?
03:33How much time does this organization want to invest in a guy like Brevin Jordan with that skill set with
03:39injury problems that's trying to be more physical than everybody else?
03:43And that's not necessarily his strong suit, right?
03:45Not a knock on Brevin Jordan, but where does Brevin Jordan fit in this offense?
03:50You treat him like Tank?
03:51He is Tank Dale through and through.
03:54I don't know where he fits.
03:55I don't know if the offensive coordinator is going to be creative and build a package around him.
03:58I don't know if he can stay healthy.
04:01You know, he doesn't necessarily lend, you know, they want all their wide receivers to be able to come into
04:07the backfield and lead up in the A or B gap on a safety that comes down.
04:11Tank Dale ain't doing that, right?
04:13If Brevin Jordan is Brevin Jordan, we've already seen it.
04:15You can't put him on a defensive end.
04:16You can't put him on an edge rusher in pass protection.
04:18He's not going to move mass.
04:20Again, not a knock on these players.
04:21I just wonder how they're going to fit in the Houston Texans offense with Nick Kaley on the ones and
04:26twos.
04:27You talk about tight end position overall.
04:28You all of a sudden move to Cade Stover.
04:31Is Cade Stover, he's a developmental player.
04:33When he got here, surprised us to open some eyes.
04:35Can't stay healthy, number one.
04:37Number two, I think he showed a little bit of improvement in his in-line ability to put his hand
04:42in the dirt and move mass.
04:43But I think he left a lot to be desired this year.
04:45Again, an injury stalled him a bit.
04:47But I think he left a bit to be desired there.
04:49He struggled with the catch and the ball part, too.
04:51I mean, those are the two guys that I believe with Dalton Schultz that you're really hanging your hat on.
04:57Foster Moreau, I get that.
04:58But he's not even in that conversation of moving the needle at the tight end position at this point in
05:04time.
05:04Dalton Schultz, a great possession tight end.
05:07Not going to really move mass, but has proven to be better and more willing in pass protection and in
05:12run blocking.
05:13Not going to threaten the defense with explosive twitch or speed or anything like that.
05:18Very quarterback friendly, but not that threat to a defense that you need.
05:22So, Ron, you don't have an athletic threat at the tight end position that's going to strike fear into a
05:27defense.
05:28He's not that?
05:28No, no, no, no, no, no.
05:30I mean, he has some abilities.
05:33I'm talking about an ever down tight end.
05:34Yeah.
05:34And I'm talking about a tight end that fits your scheme, right?
05:36And so, you don't have a guy right now that is super athletic and going to help you in the
05:44pass game to that degree in an explosive manner.
05:46You've got a pass catching tight end in Dalton Schultz, but he's more of a possession guy.
05:49And you don't have an in-line tight end that can put his hand in the dirt and move mass
05:54and be more physical than some of your offensive linemen in the run game kind of thing.
05:58And so, the need for the Houston Texans at the tight end position I think is higher than any other
06:05position on the offensive side of the football right now.
06:07And I think if you draft the right guy, you sign the right guy, I think it moves a needle
06:11in an instance of this offense getting better immediately.
06:17Find an in-line tight end.
06:18Maybe doesn't blow everybody's skirt up in the draft.
06:20That's his most athletic guy, but a guy that can move mass.
06:23Then I think you improve offensively in a big way.
06:28Whether it's a draft or free agency, there's opportunity to tight end position for the Texans.
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