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00:00i mean ellis we have to what a night what a night want a confession uh sure i am not
00:09the least bit
00:10bothered by our conversations and predictions yesterday i mean people still respond when like
00:20i was sort of like how could you not play lukinen oh don't you feel stupid no no why
00:27because neither you nor i have any idea what's going to happen in these games do not think for
00:32a second that i think that i just would have played lukinen because i i want to win and he's
00:37my number one but you know how much time do we spend yesterday trying to fend off subconsciously
00:42these people who just like think you yeah you just think you know everything how much time do
00:46we spend on but we don't know right i mean practically half the show which was you know i guess
00:52pointless
00:53because the people are still going to tell you that they think yeah whatever i conviction yeah
00:57so ellis the i mean 37 saves the confession is i bet columbus in the second intermission
01:05they were dominating and they were plus 240 yeah one nothing down they were killing us it's hard to
01:12turn down ends up five zip so i don't know about killing us i never felt like they were getting
01:18killed well shot attempts were ridiculously yeah that's right the second intermission it was
01:22pretty lopsided game yeah yeah yeah um yeah he i mean and you know i colton chaos um there was
01:33that
01:33sequence where i'm not were these separate sequences there was one i think it was all in the second
01:39period because it was left to right columbus attacking you know the the down that end and for
01:45those of you watching on the twitch and youtube i'm gesturing to my right just so you know that
01:49that means that way um on tv um and he there was a play coming in from the right point
01:57and it looked
01:59like he caught the like the heel of his skate or something in the ice and just fell over and
02:05then
02:05maybe on that same sequence he lost his stick a couple times there's the helmet was off and he had
02:13to
02:13grab his helmet and then like they were coming in and the play was never stopped because he wasn't
02:18in danger he got the mask on and then made a save there was a little there was a little
02:22chaos that
02:23was like hashic but it was only that little that one little pocket of the game where i thought he
02:28was completely out on the high wire the rest of it i thought he looked as in control as maybe
02:33he's
02:33ever looked maybe he's just been working on his game this whole time which is what you should do
02:38maybe columbus can't score maybe maybe there maybe there is sorry i mean i'm not trying to
02:43take away i just didn't i i just thought he was not at all what i was fearing he'd be
02:48as i said
02:49yesterday even in games where i think you'd say he played well there's these moments where it's just
02:54like i think i mean a sound similar to that talking about colton chaos and that was the one little
03:01pocket of the second period there was that but i thought the rest of the game he was really in
03:06control which to me is a very good sign for him as a goaltender moving forward because
03:12mostly what i think happens when you are going too fast and you get out of control is that the
03:16game is too fast for you and you don't see it in time so then you're going too hard and
03:21now you're
03:21way over here and you got to get back over there and like you just you're chasing it so let
03:25me really
03:26ask you then what do you think he is as you know a possibility in the playoffs only in an
03:35emergency
03:36has that changed i mean yesterday we're talking about whether he was worth this game against
03:42columbus and now we're at a point where lion is injured and lukanen is the clear number one
03:48does he ever come out i mean does ellis get a look at it what i just have to go
03:55wrong first
03:55really wrong well yes i and i think the degrees of wrong if lion is is not available at least
04:06early
04:07in the playoffs and ellis is so ellis is your backup lion is shelved for games one through four
04:12let's just say hypothetically even if he isn't um the series starts lukanen's your goalie how does
04:20how does ellis get in i mean lukanen screws up or gets hurt and i think with it being ellis
04:27instead
04:27of lion maybe there's a little more runway there for the screw up you know what i mean like you
04:33you
04:33give you get a longer leash on lukanen because you don't have lion but i you know i still think
04:41you're going to need you're not going to pivot to ellis unless lukanen cracks you know he just has
04:47a bad day and it just doesn't look good he looks overwhelmed or something which which i'm not
04:52ready to predict at all but i think that's what it takes i don't think that happens even in that
04:57scenario unless it's like multiple games it would have to be multiple games you're not you're not
05:04turning i think you're not turning your back on lukanen unless it's like almost over if an injury
05:10would change everything but otherwise i win game one four to three in overtime against boston at home
05:17i lose game two five to three i go to boston i lose five to three who plays game four
05:26i think me too me too i think it would have to be just like almost over and i think
05:30i would
05:31i i think i really i wonder if lion maybe the answer is different for game four if it's lying
05:39but he will have gone how long right and he didn't finish washington and he'll be coming back from an
05:44injury now back from an injury pulled in his last start a week before that was his last start and
05:50he was rocky in those two before that that's how we got to lukanen playing three games in a row
05:55this
05:55always is changing and it's wrong to be like really sort of dug in because of that but i just
06:03don't know
06:03how he plays again lion last night factoring into that because you know you got a guy here look at
06:10the locker room after this game look at the celebration on the ice how they pinned down that
06:15shutout i mean this they were they respect yeah this this guy's path sure that yeah there was there
06:21was no doubting if you know the littlest bit about hockey watching the final few minutes of that game
06:27that those guys wanted that for him badly yeah you know and so you know what what does that indicate
06:32that indicates that they wanted to play well for him he's getting this chance and they're that close
06:38to not just winning the game but you know getting him his first professional shutout or first nhl shutout
06:44he's played in the hl for quite a while i would guess he's got professional shutouts but this is his
06:48first nhl season for right right he made a season debut with the sabers back in whenever that was
06:54november uh or even october it might have been so um yeah there was no there was uh there was
07:00clear
07:00evidence of i think the how tight a team they are that even the third string goalie was worth rallying
07:07around to them yeah uh which is nice i think it i mean it just really does speak well of
07:12like who they
07:13are and and what what the what the scene is like inside that team um you know that and you
07:20know even
07:20i i thought that i'll just add this in because i i loved it the more evidence of this uh
07:27pretty new
07:28guy here in logan stanley makes that pass to quinn for the for the third goal and you know it
07:36it's not
07:37a it's not always obvious but you know you get guys score a goal and it's like i scored a
07:42goal and
07:43into the glass you go and like look at me i scored a goal before quinn even reacts to like
07:48him having
07:49scored the goal the first thing he does is point at stanley coming around behind the net like you
07:54am i for what a pass that was rightly yeah and like that is i just couldn't love that more
08:01uh it's it's
08:03not everything but it's it's evidence that this is a group that you know logan stanley
08:09he's one of the guys like the guy that's been here for three four years can't wait to point at
08:14you
08:14after he just scored his 20th goal of the year by the way right isn't that it was that his
08:1820th
08:19for quinn like that's a mark for for a guy and he can't wait to like just call out the
08:25guy that made
08:25the play which is really nice and it's not like that guy was rasmus dalin you know it's logan stanley
08:30it was 20 and 25 for doan i think that's the highlight of the night for me i think that
08:36two
08:36nothing i think that that might be the play of the year for them it's not the greatest play of
08:42the
08:42year it's not the most impressive play of the year but you think about i think about what changed
08:49for this team and how different they are from last year yeah and a a guy like that a new
08:56guy
08:56like that tracking down i mean just what an absolute dog d-a-w-g dog play that was i
09:05mean he just
09:05i'm taking the puck and not only am i taking it i'm running away from you with speed and i'm
09:12gonna be good enough to beat the goalie and like you know not game over but it's two nothing after
09:17a one nothing game for like 40 minutes or whatever it was what a play like that that determination
09:24that unwillingness to give up on a play is the thing to me that makes the biggest difference for
09:31this team this season and really since december that's why i say that's the emblematic of like the
09:3720 25 26 sabers right there like that's that's it well i agree uh with this premise and i'm not
09:43sure
09:43i know the term i want for this yet or the word but what's different every fan is asking every
09:50other
09:51fan like what how do you account for this mostly the same roster net not that player but i think
10:01doan quinn benson are really like individually and then as a group what the difference is like if
10:09we're not just going to settle for oh well they fired their gm and now we're going to take it
10:13seriously i mean that's pretty cliche but doan is a new arrival and he has been excellent and really
10:23the energy not just the production but the energy you have benson a year older and this feeds on each
10:30other i mean benson and doan whether that's quinn or whoever different combinations of of players and
10:36plays his and zucker on the post game show in new york being like well i would have passed it
10:42to
10:42anybody but him on that that tells you a lot it's it's such a compliment in sounding like in reverse
10:51i
10:51mean it tells you a lot about benson's role and his standing as a 20 year old still in that
11:00room
11:00i mean look what he does even when that game's three four nothing last night that guy's going
11:06a mile a minute well yeah the play he makes for doan's second goal to make it for nothing
11:11that's an elite play and then take quinn who was i mean i was always in on benson i was
11:18never out on
11:18don't i didn't know a lot about him i mean it was a trade and we'll see what we get
11:22i know his dad
11:23refused to come to the sabers so i don't know just sort of we'll see what happens one of those
11:27guys
11:27but he's been so good quinn was the guy i think everybody was gonna be ready to be done with
11:34the
11:35part with at the deadline you asked me anybody asked me at coming up to the deadline what do you
11:40want to do with this lineup it's running so pure uh upgrade quinn maybe but he's coming off of those
11:46injuries is there a 28 year old version of him i can trade him for because that might give me
11:50more
11:51you know comfort and security with a little like more of a beard guy for the playoffs that was a
11:57very popular idea certainly with me and i think a lot of other people and yeah i mean he's become
12:03he's probably always been important but i mean he's he's he's having a nice end of the year here i
12:08would have to go even backwards from there because for me i was feeling like it was over before that
12:15yeah and if he got to the deadline it was somebody that i could turn into somebody better
12:19and older okay that would i would count that as a win instead i mean he's helped the power play
12:26a lot
12:27not that they're going great right now but he plays a role there i think also his energy i think
12:33those three guys and if you want to include a malenstein or even byram maybe you'd have to drag me
12:41to
12:41that certain guys younger not dalene not thompson as important as they are not tuck there's like a
12:48younger nucleus that has this big energy that is a problem for teams last night's game quintessentially
12:57i mean they're the whole krebs i want krebs on this list he's someone else i mean he's been here
13:02longer but he's also somebody like they have this what i still don't know what i want to call it
13:09they have this it's not secondary it's above secondary this younger group that has so much
13:16to do so many of these wins you're not even including austin because he's been hurt but i
13:20think no i'm not he's in this group if he's healthy for sure to me okay like there's this younger
13:25group
13:25of guys that has been so many wins this year are they're not all thompson games there's been a
13:30thompson game in a while like it's just this great energy and everybody's feeding off of it i think
13:38even maybe older players on this team are feeding off ask zucker ask tuck what those younger guys
13:43don't isn't as young i mean benson is not even 21 yeah i don't know it's really exciting last night
13:50it looked like a game going in to me the goalie was part of that the betting line movement was
13:56part
13:56of that it was columbus as a favorite columbus desperate you're sort of you know we've seen them
14:01maybe i i've said like to explain away games that they didn't play their best like it's natural to
14:07coast a little emotionally physically like it's a long year and i thought they might be out
14:13desperated last night by a team that was trying to stay in the race and they didn't hammer them
14:19until they hammered them like it was it was a very tight game well you know one nothing for most
14:25of the
14:25game but then once they like columbus started opening up i guess they're trying to take some
14:31chances we got to get some goals they'll do something here and it was boom boom boom just
14:36game over it's crazy it keeps getting better yeah i mean now they're four up on tampa with less than
14:45a week to go it just keeps getting better well sam penny out of it's coming up he texted each
14:53of us
14:54today lindy is minus 2 000 to win the coach of the year at fan duel like that's a fait
14:58accompli i
14:59think at this point i i hope the betting odds are representative of the voting pool who are
15:06broad i always think they are because i think there are people who drive that that are you know they
15:11talk to it's why we can't bet it right it's things like that like somebody knows the answer or they
15:17have
15:17some clue
15:18you
15:19you
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