00:00I actually think that prior to the beginning of this war, indeed, the Islamic Republic of Iran was at its
00:08weakest point.
00:09And I think that particularly after the protests in January, for the first time, and I'm no Iran expert, right?
00:16But for the first time, I heard those that are Iran experts that were actually debating whether, indeed, it may
00:23be the beginning of the end.
00:24My sense is that what this war has done is that it's actually provided a new lease of life to
00:32the Islamic Republic of Iran.
00:34It's not, as I said, I'm trying to be analytical about it.
00:37It's not necessarily what Natalie wants to see happen.
00:39Do you anticipate people of Iran forgiving this government?
00:42Do you anticipate forgiving this government?
00:43I anticipate the people of Iran at this point in time being singularly focused on who has been most recently
00:52committing crimes against them.
00:54And tragically, as opposed to January, where it was indeed the Islamic Republic of Iran, tragically, who has been committing
01:02crimes most recently against them is the United States and Israel.
01:06And I don't think that Iranian citizens...
01:08Your logic would not hold in your class, I'm afraid, to tell you.
01:14Your logic doesn't hold.
01:15You're ignoring the fact...
01:17Why not?
01:18Elaborate on that.
01:19Why doesn't it hold?
01:20...that those people would not have legitimacy.
01:21You're ignoring that.
01:22And you're going to your own preferred status of the world, as you would like to define it.
01:28No, listen, I'm an Italian citizen.
01:30I don't have skin in this game, right?
01:32So I'm simply looking at the situation...
01:35Didn't you see the killing of the people, Professor?
01:38And this is why I'm saying that in January, I actually thought that maybe this was a regime that was
01:45just one push away from imposes.
01:47Nothing has changed, nothing has changed, the people were angry.
01:50If I may what?
01:52...actually provided a new lease of life.
01:54Mm-hmm.
01:54...
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