2020 Season 2025 Episode 21 Idaho Justice

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00:00:00This is the police body camera video captured on November 13th, 2022,

00:00:15as Moscow, Idaho police responded to a 911 call.

00:00:21Yep, where's she at? Where's she at?

00:00:23Yes.

00:00:23But nothing would prepare police or this tight-knit community

00:00:34for the shocking murders that they discover in this house on King Road.

00:00:39A murder mystery in Idaho.

00:00:41Four University of Idaho students were found dead in their off-campus apartment.

00:00:44It's now being investigated as a homicide.

00:00:46We all underestimated how interested the rest of the nation and the world would be in this case.

00:00:53Nobody was prepared.

00:00:55A roommate on scene states something about a male being in the room with them,

00:00:58trying to get further.

00:00:59You may think you've heard this story, but tonight, we'll take you inside the investigation.

00:01:05We'll show you body camera video from the officer who first responded to the scene,

00:01:10and then the frantic moments that one of the surviving roommates

00:01:13recounts a man in a mask inside the house.

00:01:17I couldn't really see much of him, but I'm almost positive.

00:01:20He was wearing a full black outfit, and he had this mask that was just over his forehead

00:01:25and over his mouth.

00:01:27You'll hear from the friends who were on the scene that morning even before police arrived.

00:01:33As soon as you get there, you know something's wrong.

00:01:36And then what happened next?

00:01:39I went into the house.

00:01:41I think I walked just right in the door, and Hunter already was like, everybody get out.

00:01:48And then he was like, somebody call 911.

00:01:52And you'll hear from investigators who launched a nationwide manhunt to unmask and arrest the killer

00:01:59who was found thousands of miles away from the crime scene.

00:02:02You interviewed Brian Koberger.

00:02:04Yes.

00:02:05He would try to go and ask, well, why are you guys really here?

00:02:10And we said, well, I feel like you probably know why we're here.

00:02:15But this all began in 2022.

00:02:28It was the start of a new school year, a time of anticipation, hope, promise.

00:02:33Coming back to school at the University of Idaho really starts in the middle of August.

00:02:39You're packing up your car.

00:02:41It's filled to the brim.

00:02:42You can fit your entire life into a couple of boxes in the back of a sedan.

00:02:48What a time.

00:02:52Moscow at the beginning of the semester was definitely a very happy place.

00:02:57And like, you step on campus and it's like, okay, this feels right.

00:03:01This feels good to be here.

00:03:03Everyone's really excited.

00:03:05The new people, the new classes, things we can do, people to meet.

00:03:10You know, you raise your kids and you're, you know, you just wonder, you know, at what point are they going to kind of feel like they're independent enough to kind of fly out of the nest, I guess, if you will.

00:03:23It's a cliche, but.

00:03:24Starting to adult.

00:03:25Yeah, starting to, you know.

00:03:30Among the students arriving here are 21-year-old seniors, Kaylee Gonsalves and Madison Mogan, along with Dana Kronodal, a 20-year-old junior and 19-year-old sophomore Ethan Chapin.

00:03:42Four students just starting out, not knowing that soon their lives would violently collide with a PhD student in criminology at another university just across the state line.

00:03:54So on November 12th is when that iconic photo is taken, the last known photo of the four victims all together with their roommates, Bethany and Dylan, all six of them before their big night on game day.

00:04:13They've had so many Saturday nights just like this.

00:04:16There was nothing out of the ordinary about this Saturday night in Moscow, or so they thought.

00:04:21Hours later, friends make a horrific discovery.

00:04:46What unfolds next is the stuff of nightmares.

00:04:49We saw it on our phones before they told us directly.

00:04:55It was like, what?

00:04:56Quadruple homicide?

00:04:58We're calling Kaylee.

00:04:59It's going to voicemail.

00:05:00We're calling Maddie.

00:05:01She's not picking up.

00:05:02And in our minds, it wouldn't have been Kaylee and Maddie both.

00:05:10So I think that my mind just immediately went to, like, nope, nope, nope.

00:05:15The most important thing to me was who did this, why did they do it?

00:05:20This is Moscow.

00:05:21It doesn't take very long before state police, then the FBI, all join the search for this killer.

00:05:31We realized that there was a security camera right next door to our residence.

00:05:37Once we had that, we quickly realized that we had this white vehicle.

00:05:42And so that was the introduction of the white Elantra for us.

00:05:50We don't know when this person's going to strike again, if they're going to strike again.

00:05:56And the pressure on us to solve alone, our own internal pressure, was huge.

00:06:04And at the same time, you've got the public pressure to find the perpetrator.

00:06:08There's a crush of media.

00:06:11It overwhelms the tiny town of Moscow, along with the lives of everyone touched by these shocking murders.

00:06:18There were, you know, YouTubers and TikTokers outside the house, you know, that want to live stream at our front door.

00:06:26And then someone comes up, like, oh, hey, yeah, what do you have to say?

00:06:29What do you have to say?

00:06:30Like, dude, like, get out of our face.

00:06:32It just went absolutely insane, but that's how the world is now, so.

00:06:35Just trying to get through the days is really all I was doing.

00:06:38You don't feel safe in any situation like that for months.

00:06:42Like, there's no feeling secure or safe.

00:06:45I mean, after the first couple of weeks, we're like, this guy's going to get away with this.

00:06:49But then, nearly seven weeks after the murders, finally, an arrest.

00:06:54And we want to get right to our breaking news.

00:06:56A specialized team of state troopers and federal agents taking Brian Koberger into custody early Friday morning.

00:07:03My mom just came into my room, and she's like, hey, hey, they got him.

00:07:08They caught him.

00:07:08I mean, my first thought was, who is that?

00:07:11I have no clue who you are.

00:07:12It was really shocking to learn he was a WSU student who had moved out to Washington and Pullman that summer to study at Washington State University.

00:07:22He was pursuing a Ph.D. in criminology and justice.

00:07:26For the first time, you'll see some of the hundreds of photos released by authorities just this week.

00:07:32They offer a glimpse into the secret life of Brian Koberger, and you'll hear what investigators learned from analyzing his digital life.

00:07:40He was a loner, no friends, no one really except for his parents.

00:07:45He called them mother and father, even through text message.

00:07:48He didn't take a selfie to send it to someone else.

00:07:50It was very vain.

00:07:51It was very much just him recording himself for that purpose only.

00:07:54But first, tonight, we want you to get to know Kaylee, Maddie, Zanna, and Ethan, who they were, how they lived their lives.

00:08:05And you'll hear how investigators say Koberger planned meticulously to end it all.

00:08:12Dylan had opened her door, and as she looked out, saw an individual in all dark clothing.

00:08:18Then she thought she heard a male voice say, I'm here to help you.

00:08:23And the crucial mistake he made that led authorities right to his doorstep.

00:08:28Boom, and now we have something in this house from the children.

00:08:32That was definitely the first aha moment.

00:08:35The Greek life at U of I is pretty tight-knit.

00:08:52We all do things together.

00:08:56The sorority and fraternities were their own little community.

00:09:00When I joined Pi-Fi, I met Zanna, and I just felt welcomed in.

00:09:07You know how you meet some people, and they're like, don't want to talk to you?

00:09:10She would talk your ear off.

00:09:12We had an entire friend group that we were always together.

00:09:15Zanna, Maddie, Emily.

00:09:18We were attached to the hip probably the first day that we met.

00:09:21We just clicked immediately.

00:09:24And I was like, oh yeah, these are my people.

00:09:26These are going to be my people.

00:09:28Hi, my name is Zanna Kurnodal.

00:09:31I'm a marketing major here at the University of Idaho.

00:09:3520-year-old Zanna Kurnodal loved the Pittsburgh Steelers.

00:09:39She loved her friends.

00:09:41And she highlights both in this video that's posted on her sister's social media.

00:09:46And I really like just hanging out with my friends all the time

00:09:50and being super involved in school events.

00:09:54Zanna also really loved electronic dance music.

00:09:59We called her DJ Zan because she was always like, oh, I'm going to play music while we get ready.

00:10:03Like I have a video where she's jumping on the couch and the MacBook's jumping with her.

00:10:09Oh, okay, your laptop.

00:10:11I've never met someone like Zanna before.

00:10:17Ever.

00:10:19There was one night.

00:10:20It had snowed.

00:10:21And we see a sled.

00:10:24And we just went flying.

00:10:29Her smile was contagious.

00:10:31I don't know that I ever saw Zanna not happy.

00:10:35Cracking jokes, nonstop.

00:10:38If you ever had a bad day, maybe, you know, had a rough day, she'll make you happy.

00:10:41Like somehow she'll make you laugh.

00:10:43There'd be mornings I'd wake up and I would pull out of the oven a burnt pizza

00:10:48because she tried to make pizza the night before and fell asleep.

00:10:51Zanna, did you try to make pizza last night?

00:10:53And she'd be like, I guess so.

00:10:55In August of 2022, Zanna moves into 1122 King Road with several friends.

00:11:03That includes Maddie Mogan.

00:11:05And together, the two girls work as servers at the Moscow restaurant Mad Greek.

00:11:12Also spending a lot of time at their house was Zanna's boyfriend, Ethan Chapin.

00:11:17He's a triplet, starting his second year at the University of Idaho with his sister Maisie and brother Hunter.

00:11:23The Chapin family invited me to their Idaho home.

00:11:28They opened up their photo albums, sharing memories of the son and brother they lost.

00:11:35Was it always just assumed that the three of you would go to the same college?

00:11:40Yeah, pretty much.

00:11:42It would have been tough to split us up, I feel like.

00:11:50We've kind of done everything together.

00:11:52Why not do college together?

00:11:55And me and Ethan joined the same fraternity, Sigma Chi.

00:11:58I just kind of followed whatever he did.

00:12:00I knew wherever we went, we were going to have a good time no matter what.

00:12:05I mean, he was kind of the dominant triplet, I would say.

00:12:08He just always had these two in tow.

00:12:11The boys were always together, and we met them, and they were immediately funny, like great guys.

00:12:18And we were like, oh, you guys are being our friends.

00:12:21Alrighty, my name is Ethan Chapin.

00:12:24I grew up playing basketball and a lot of sports.

00:12:26We're a pretty athletic family, so a lot of sports, just kind of staying active.

00:12:32And, yeah, no questions, just ready to get going.

00:12:40We played every sport together.

00:12:42Every time we went in the car, it was together.

00:12:44Partied together.

00:12:45Just everything we did.

00:12:47There was never a dull moment.

00:12:50It always made things interesting and exciting.

00:12:53Whenever there would be a party, we'd be singing country songs.

00:12:57Fall in Love by Bailey Zimmerman.

00:12:59That was one of the first songs that Ethan and I had memorized together.

00:13:02Broken heart, I'm a walking testimony.

00:13:05My confession is a lesson that I'm pouring out in the song.

00:13:10I appreciated Ethan just for being just a goofball.

00:13:14You know, I mean, he was just funny as all hell.

00:13:17We knew Ethan and Xana liked each other.

00:13:20Me and Emily were like, they're going to be together.

00:13:23I know they like each other.

00:13:25And Xana was like, no, no, no.

00:13:28And then Xana ended up being like, oh, he's cute.

00:13:32Tell me a little bit about watching Ethan and Xana.

00:13:37They were both such similar people.

00:13:39Like, they were both very outgoing and just fun to be around.

00:13:44Any time they walked in a room, it was just kind of like, everyone would be like, oh, Ethan and Xana.

00:13:49So it was kind of cool just to see them hang around.

00:13:51They always just kind of brought that same energy anywhere they went.

00:13:54It was an energy they also brought into singing a Luke Combs song.

00:13:58Or camping with their friends and spending time with Ethan's family.

00:14:07I liked her from the beginning.

00:14:11I remember one time you told Ethan that you could see him with her or something.

00:14:16Do you remember that?

00:14:17Yeah.

00:14:18I think that clicked for him.

00:14:21It's like my mom likes her.

00:14:23After visiting the triplets in early November, Stacy posts on Instagram, it's November 6th.

00:14:30She writes, best day.

00:14:32And they leave feeling like the kids are starting to find their footing as young adults.

00:14:38It was just an amazing weekend.

00:14:40We had lunch with Santa on Friday.

00:14:43We ate at Mad Greek.

00:14:44Going to the football games and just hanging out with all those kids.

00:14:48You know, it was fun.

00:14:49And we drove away that weekend.

00:14:53We just were like, we've done it.

00:14:56We have three independent, self-sufficient kids.

00:15:02It was an amazing weekend.

00:15:03It was just an amazing weekend.

00:15:08It's just after that weekend on November 7th that according to a post on her sister's Instagram,

00:15:15Zanna turns in this English essay.

00:15:17And it talks about having just seen a show with a bunch of her closest friends.

00:15:22And she wrote, it was amazing getting to experience one of my favorite songs with some of my best friends.

00:15:30That is one of the most important things you can do in life.

00:15:34Enjoy the ride, not the destination.

00:15:37She really liked living in the moment.

00:15:40She always wanted to be doing something.

00:15:42And as Zanna and her friends are savoring that college life, a student just across the state line is having a very different experience.

00:15:54Koberger started to get a really bad reputation on campus.

00:15:58He was starting to really lose control of his life.

00:16:02What do we know now about the criminology student whose work went beyond the classroom?

00:16:08His eyes really opened up when he's talking about Jeffrey Dahmer or BTK or Ted Bundy.

00:16:14He says,

00:16:23He said,

00:16:28He said,

00:16:302,500 miles away from Moscow, Idaho.

00:17:00Here are the Pocono Mountains in northeastern Pennsylvania.

00:17:04This is a rural community in Pennsylvania.

00:17:06It's really a lot of skiing and resort-type communities.

00:17:11There's approximately 160,000 people living here, so it's a really backcountry sort of

00:17:16place in Pennsylvania.

00:17:18It's also where a young Brian Koberger grew up.

00:17:21He lived in this Monroe County home with his father Michael, a maintenance worker, his

00:17:26mother Mary Ann, who worked in education, and his two older sisters.

00:17:33What kind of household was Brian Koberger raised in?

00:17:36I would call his household an everyday common household.

00:17:42His parents were extremely involved in his life.

00:17:44I think even over the course of the last three years, he spoke daily with them.

00:17:49Tell me about education for Brian.

00:17:51Brian went to Pleasant Valley School District.

00:17:54It's on the west end of the Poconos.

00:17:56He attended middle school there.

00:18:00He then moved on to the senior high school.

00:18:03What kind of student was he?

00:18:06I'd say based upon what I've learned about the case, Brian was an average student in middle

00:18:11school and I think he advanced while he got into high school.

00:18:16On the surface, Brian appeared to have a pretty ordinary childhood, but when you talk to people

00:18:24who knew him, this quiet young man seemed to be struggling socially.

00:18:29Brian was an overweight kid growing up.

00:18:33It's come to light that some people that were on the same bus as him said that people would

00:18:38throw stuff at him because of his weight.

00:18:41They would make fun of him.

00:18:43He had issues being picked on when he was overweight and as it progressed in the high school, he

00:18:47got isolated from his friends that he had at that time.

00:18:52Every information we had was socially awkward, very few relationships, you know, as far as

00:19:00never really had what I would consider to be a girlfriend.

00:19:03I will say though that he was kind of skittish in a way, like he didn't really want to talk

00:19:11to people, not very social.

00:19:14A lot of things changed in his life.

00:19:17He had gone through a transformation.

00:19:19And are you talking about a physical transformation?

00:19:21Both physically, mentally, and I think just generally in life.

00:19:25He was overweight and he had lost a considerable amount of weight heading into maybe his ninth

00:19:30grade or 10th grade year.

00:19:32When he started losing the weight and trimming down, he liked to do boxing or he worked out

00:19:38at the local gym.

00:19:40We had a trainer that he grew very fond of.

00:19:43And was that important in his life?

00:19:44Based upon everything that I've learned, it was very important.

00:19:47It kept him losing the weight, steaming forward, better improving his life.

00:19:52But that newer, thinner, more athletic version, Brian 2.0, if you will, also masked a deeper,

00:20:04much more troubling turn in his life.

00:20:07We know from our investigation into him and we had looked at his past and we know that he

00:20:11had some struggles with drug use earlier in his life.

00:20:16We find a history of an arrest in 2014.

00:20:20So of that history of arrest, we can get police reports.

00:20:24And part of the thing that came out of the police report said that there was a heroin

00:20:28addiction at the time.

00:20:32According to police reports that were reviewed by ABC News, in February of 2014, Brian Koberger

00:20:38had recently exited a rehab center and rejoined his family.

00:20:44And while he's home from rehab, Brian took his sister's iPhone.

00:20:48He called me to come pick him up and he wanted to sell a phone.

00:20:52In July of 2023, I spoke with a former classmate of Koberger's and he says he was unwittingly

00:20:58roped in to help Koberger.

00:21:02At his request, we're only using his first name.

00:21:08So you're saying that you were leaving a party.

00:21:11And he called you.

00:21:12Yeah, he called me to come pick him up to go like sell a phone somewhere.

00:21:17And I was just like, OK.

00:21:19There's documents that ABC, myself included, have seen that show he stole his sister's phone.

00:21:25Oh, I didn't even know all that.

00:21:28So you thought he was trying to sell his own phone?

00:21:30Yeah.

00:21:31And at this time, did you know he had just gotten out of rehab?

00:21:34That I did not know either.

00:21:36Why do you think he was trying to sell that phone?

00:21:38Oh, we were trying to get something with it.

00:21:41That was the goal for sure.

00:21:44His father turned him in because at that point they were kind of at their wits end for dealing

00:21:48with the substance abuse addiction.

00:21:51Those same police reports, again reviewed by ABC News, confirm that Koberger was charged

00:21:57with misdemeanor theft.

00:21:58But local officials told us that he didn't serve any jail time.

00:22:02And what about the family dynamics at that time?

00:22:04I think the family supported him throughout the entire process.

00:22:10His family would say that they believed him to be sober ever since high school.

00:22:16Obviously that evolution led to him getting higher education, doing better in schooling,

00:22:22focused more on something that he really wanted to do, which was criminology.

00:22:29When he graduated high school, I think he actually got a security job right out of high school

00:22:34working for Pleasant Valley School District.

00:22:38He then transitioned after a year or two and he did attend Northampton County Community College

00:22:43where his interest in criminology grew.

00:22:45So he goes to Northampton Community College and then from there goes to DeSales.

00:22:50He goes to DeSales University to finish his degree, which this is an individual that appeared

00:22:55to be highly intelligent and turned his life around.

00:22:59According to a pre-trial motion that was submitted by defense attorneys, the doctors had recently

00:23:04diagnosed Koberger as being on the autism spectrum along with OCD.

00:23:08And in the filing, they also state Mr. Koberger has met the criteria for this diagnosis since childhood.

00:23:15Brian's defense team said that he suffered from autism spectrum disorder.

00:23:21Is that something the family thought he also suffered from?

00:23:26I don't know if the family thought that he suffered from a disorder.

00:23:31So what provokes a person who appears to have overcome a difficult adolescence to then murder four people?

00:23:39And how did his life take a turn when Koberger left Pennsylvania to pursue his PhD at Washington State University?

00:23:47The professor said if we give him a PhD, we're going to end up seeing on the news that he's committing some kind of crime.

00:23:55We all probably wish we had a friend like Maddie and Kaylee were to each other.

00:24:13In August of 2022, five young women, including Kaylee Gonsalves and Madison Mogan, all move into a house together.

00:24:21It's just off campus, right here on King Road.

00:24:26Kaylee and Maddie met in sixth grade, and they were always at each other's house or at Kaylee's sister's house.

00:24:35They were more than best friends. They were even more than sisters.

00:24:38They were absolutely each other's everything through thick and thin.

00:24:43So that's Maddie at Christmas when she was just little.

00:24:48She looked so excited.

00:24:49Maddie, Maddie May, we called her.

00:24:53She was our first and only child that we ever had.

00:24:57And she was such a happy baby, just super easy and fun and smart.

00:25:03And it was just the joy of all of our lives.

00:25:07Maddie's dad, Ben, and her mom, Karen, divorced when Maddie was really little.

00:25:12Karen then married Scott Laramie, who raised and loved Maddie as his own.

00:25:17And together they appear in the Prime Video docuseries, One Night in Idaho, The College Murders.

00:25:23Maddie was Karen's mini-me.

00:25:25They looked alike and they acted alike and everything.

00:25:30For a long time she just called me Scotty, you know.

00:25:34And then when she got older, it just made me feel so proud to be called dad.

00:25:42I was a very young mother.

00:25:43I was 22.

00:25:46So I was always so protective of Madison.

00:25:50This beautiful, peaceful little girl.

00:25:52I'd never let Maddie cry.

00:25:57Like, never.

00:26:04Kaylee is the daughter of Steve and Christy Gonsalves.

00:26:08She's the middle child of five kids, including her older sister Olivia.

00:26:13And they grew up together near Coeur d'Alene.

00:26:15I remember the day Kaylee was born.

00:26:19I was about four and a half years older than Kaylee.

00:26:24And you're a big sister, but you also ended up being best friends.

00:26:29What was it like to watch her evolve and become a young woman?

00:26:34It was the best.

00:26:35From the moment Kaylee was born, she was ornery, stubborn, a spitfire, so confident, so sure of herself.

00:26:46There was no timid bone in her body.

00:26:50Kaylee was the middle child, and she's your classic middle child syndrome.

00:26:54She tried to be really sweet at first.

00:26:56And when she knew you liked her, then she could be a little bit more herself,

00:27:00which was a little ornery and do a prank on you.

00:27:02Kaylee was funny.

00:27:04Kaylee is this bubbly, smiley girl.

00:27:08And Maddie's always been described as just a little bit quieter.

00:27:11Yeah.

00:27:12How did they click?

00:27:14I think that something in Kaylee's soul recognized something in Maddie's and vice versa,

00:27:19and it was never a question.

00:27:22Because as quiet as Maddie maybe was when they first met,

00:27:28man, man, she blossomed.

00:27:30And as sharp and bullheaded as Kaylee was, man, she softened.

00:27:36And they complemented each other.

00:27:44You wouldn't see Kaylee without Madison.

00:27:47You wouldn't see Madison without Kaylee.

00:27:49My name is Donna Staub.

00:27:51I'm an English teacher at Lake City High School,

00:27:54and I had Kaylee and Madison in an English class when they were juniors in 2017.

00:28:02So it was probably my second class of the day, if I remember correctly.

00:28:09And these two girls walked in just talking and laughing, life of the party.

00:28:14Her mom made it a point, too, that she was like,

00:28:17I just want her to have one friend that she can depend on.

00:28:20I don't care about her being super popular.

00:28:23She's just, I just, if this could be the friend, and it just worked out that way.

00:28:29So then when college comes, they were like, we're going to go to college together.

00:28:32During high school, they mentioned it early on.

00:28:35They were going to go off to college together.

00:28:37That was their plan.

00:28:39Living near Coeur d'Alene, Idaho,

00:28:40they were just about 85 miles or so from the University of Idaho campus.

00:28:43It's not until 2022 that Kaylee and Maddie lived together.

00:28:51They move into that house on King Road with their friends.

00:28:55Kaylee and Maddie were always at each other's houses,

00:28:58but this was the first time they'd really gotten to live together and be roommates for real.

00:29:03That was definitely just a house where we all got to hang out and feel welcome.

00:29:07And, you know, we would have parties.

00:29:09Everyone who lived there just liked to have a good time,

00:29:11and so they'd always invite people over.

00:29:12That usually turned into some sort of social gathering, maybe a party.

00:29:17But, I mean, it was always people that everyone knew,

00:29:22so everyone could just go there and feel safe.

00:29:25We were college kids.

00:29:27You're still innocent.

00:29:28You're like, nah, nothing's going to happen.

00:29:35By their senior year,

00:29:36Maddie and Kaylee were looking forward to graduation,

00:29:39starting their next chapter.

00:29:40In mid-November in Moscow, it starts to get really cold.

00:29:45It's getting dark earlier.

00:29:47There's a chill in the air.

00:29:48And soon, the lives of everyone in that house would be forever linked by tragedy.

00:29:58A tragedy no one could have ever imagined.

00:30:01Once the cops showed up and the ambulance arrived,

00:30:04we all were,

00:30:06where's Kaylee and Maddie?

00:30:07Where's Kaylee and Maddie?

00:30:08We were calling them.

00:30:08We were texting them.

00:30:09We were, you know,

00:30:11no answers.

00:30:12We were, you know,

00:30:42in May of 2022,

00:30:4427-year-old Brian Koberger graduates from DeSales University.

00:30:49He's seen in this commencement video

00:30:51getting a master's degree in criminal justice.

00:30:54My name is Josh Ferraro.

00:30:56I knew Brian Koberger from our time at DeSales University.

00:31:00We were paired up for this long project.

00:31:02We were all picking partners,

00:31:03and he was someone who was still there.

00:31:05So I said, hey, do you want to be my partner?

00:31:07And, yeah, that's how we met.

00:31:10He was like, yeah, you know,

00:31:10my mission is to, like, be a cop,

00:31:12something I want to do.

00:31:13But he didn't delve too much into his personal life.

00:31:17This guy's a lonely guy, keeping him himself.

00:31:20I invited him to one of my parties one time,

00:31:21and he's like, no, I'm good, man.

00:31:22I'm like, all right.

00:31:23The offer is there, but no problem.

00:31:25Like, it's just trying to be nice.

00:31:27One of the classes the two men share as undergrads

00:31:31is psychological sleuthing,

00:31:34and it's taught by the renowned professor

00:31:36of forensic psychology, Dr. Catherine Ramsland.

00:31:39My area of expertise is extreme offenders,

00:31:43serial killers, mass murderers,

00:31:44but primarily serial killers.

00:31:472020 spoke with Dr. Ramsland back in 2019

00:31:49about her work studying the serial killer known as BTK.

00:31:53I think BTK is a very useful example

00:31:57of somebody who can grow up

00:31:59in a fairly normal childhood

00:32:01and become a serial killer.

00:32:04In that class, you study mass murders,

00:32:06you study serial killers,

00:32:07and she really delves into the psyche of their mind.

00:32:10Brian Koberger was really, really invested in the class.

00:32:15He took really quick notes,

00:32:16and he'd ask a lot of questions.

00:32:18His eyes really opened up

00:32:19when he's asking a question

00:32:20or getting to the answer

00:32:22talking about Jeffrey Dahmer or BTK

00:32:25or Ted Bundy.

00:32:27He was very proud of his intellect.

00:32:30While at DeSales,

00:32:31Koberger conducts a Reddit survey

00:32:33for an academic research project

00:32:34looking to understand the mind of a criminal.

00:32:38He put an online request

00:32:40to speak to convicted criminals

00:32:43to discuss the emotions they were feeling

00:32:48and decision-making that they went through

00:32:50when they were committing crimes.

00:32:53How did they choose their victims?

00:32:55All this stuff.

00:32:57In June of 2022,

00:33:00Koberger moves across the country

00:33:01to Pullman, Washington,

00:33:03pursuing a PhD in criminology

00:33:05at Washington State University.

00:33:06The University of Idaho

00:33:09and Washington State University

00:33:10are located just seven miles from each other.

00:33:14The student body

00:33:14are constantly traversing

00:33:16to come over to the different areas,

00:33:18whether it be for classes or social.

00:33:20There is definitely a crossover

00:33:21with the two universities.

00:33:23We're all one big community.

00:33:25At 27 years old,

00:33:30Koberger has never lived on his own before,

00:33:32and he moves across the country

00:33:34and lives here

00:33:34in this off-campus apartment complex.

00:33:37He spends the summer exploring the region,

00:33:40taking some of those selfies

00:33:42just released by authorities.

00:33:44And making several trips

00:33:46across the state line into Moscow.

00:33:48His cell phone records would later show

00:33:51that his phone pinged off a tower

00:33:53in that area 23 times

00:33:55in the months before the murders.

00:33:58He even gets pulled over

00:34:00one night in August.

00:34:02Hey there.

00:34:03I stopped you going a little fast.

00:34:04He's accused of speeding

00:34:05on the Pullman-Moscow highway.

00:34:07Were you wearing your seatbelt

00:34:09when I stopped you?

00:34:10No.

00:34:11No?

00:34:13That's no good.

00:34:16Just being honest with you.

00:34:18Yeah, I appreciate that.

00:34:20You guys are in a couple of years.

00:34:23Absolutely no point.

00:34:24Not being honest.

00:34:26After the officer tells Koberger

00:34:28he's getting a $10 seatbelt citation,

00:34:31Koberger has some questions

00:34:33for the officer.

00:34:34I'm obviously an honest person, right?

00:34:35I told you I wasn't wearing my seatbelt.

00:34:37But people lie to you about that.

00:34:39They say I lied to you about that, right?

00:34:41For my own knowledge.

00:34:43Do you honestly go back and look at that?

00:34:46Koberger accepting the citation.

00:34:48All right, have a good night.

00:34:49Tell me what the internship was

00:34:54that Brian Koberger applied for.

00:34:57So it was actually part of

00:34:58WSU's criminal justice Ph.D. program

00:35:00where the student would be embedded

00:35:04in the police department

00:35:05to conduct research.

00:35:07How would you describe

00:35:08how he communicated with you?

00:35:10Just awkward.

00:35:11Just a little bit socially inept, perhaps.

00:35:14I didn't feel he could develop

00:35:16rapport and trust with my staff.

00:35:18He didn't really speak

00:35:19in a fluid conversational manner.

00:35:22And so for those reasons,

00:35:23I didn't think he'd be a good fit for us.

00:35:25But Koberger does get a position

00:35:27as a teaching assistant at the university,

00:35:30which helps pay for his tuition.

00:35:32He was the TA for my criminal justice 420 class,

00:35:36which was criminal procedures.

00:35:37He was a little bit more strict

00:35:39with his grading.

00:35:41He gave several comments of feedback,

00:35:44you know, like saying,

00:35:44oh, well, this is a little bit too broad.

00:35:46This is not descriptive enough.

00:35:48Stuff like that.

00:35:49Brian Koberger was pretty quiet.

00:35:51He didn't really talk too much.

00:35:52He kind of didn't really look at us directly.

00:35:55And he just seemed really kind of awkward.

00:35:58And outside of class,

00:35:59Koberger doesn't appear to be very social.

00:36:02He was a loner.

00:36:04Jared and Heather Barnhart

00:36:05analyzed Koberger's digital life,

00:36:08including his cell phone

00:36:09and computer records for investigators.

00:36:11He had 18 total contacts in his phone.

00:36:15One person was labeled as maintenance

00:36:17and another was AT&T.

00:36:19There were no texts to friends.

00:36:21It was just his parents.

00:36:23He called them mother and father,

00:36:25even through text message.

00:36:27He would say,

00:36:28mother, where is father?

00:36:30Why isn't father answering me?

00:36:32And she would respond,

00:36:34your dad is in the garage, Brian.

00:36:36He's working.

00:36:37It was all mother and father,

00:36:38hours of talking, text messaging.

00:36:40And we found all those selfies.

00:36:45Like very much staged selfies,

00:36:47trying to catch himself in a certain manner.

00:36:51It's not weird that he was taking selfies.

00:36:53The weird part is that he never did something with it.

00:36:56He didn't take a selfie to send it to someone else.

00:36:58As the semester progresses,

00:37:01instructors at WSU start to raise concerns

00:37:04about Koberger's conduct in the program.

00:37:06Koberger started to get a really bad reputation on campus.

00:37:11Sometime in November,

00:37:12I remember the professor saying,

00:37:13hi, so I'm switching some of my TAs.

00:37:18He didn't get any more in-depth.

00:37:20He didn't seem to respect female professors.

00:37:22He was showing up late to class,

00:37:24having some weird social problems

00:37:27where like he would block doorways

00:37:29when students were trying to talk to him.

00:37:31They felt uncomfortable around him.

00:37:33They felt that he would try to,

00:37:35at times, trap them.

00:37:37And there were lots of allegations

00:37:38that he was bothering girls.

00:37:39And this is especially problematic

00:37:41when there's a power dynamic.

00:37:42There was a common complaint of

00:37:45he's very controlling,

00:37:46that he's manipulative,

00:37:48that he treated women a certain way

00:37:50compared to men.

00:37:52Disrespect just had an odd, strange behavior.

00:37:56The university was on to him.

00:37:58Professors said,

00:37:59we need to cut funding from this guy.

00:38:01If we give him a PhD,

00:38:02he's going to become a professor

00:38:04and we're going to end up seeing on the news

00:38:06that he's stalking women

00:38:07or he's committing some kind of crime.

00:38:10He received an email

00:38:11describing that he was on a performance improvement plan

00:38:14with the university in this role.

00:38:15It was somewhat satisfactory,

00:38:17but there were some problems.

00:38:18WSU did not intend to have him back

00:38:21as a teaching assistant.

00:38:23He was starting to really lose control of his life,

00:38:26kind of spinning out.

00:38:28Away from home, isolated.

00:38:30Koberger is about to turn his PhD work into reality.

00:38:35He goes from a student to a killer.

00:38:38Is it somebody that trains and practices

00:38:40over and over and over and over again,

00:38:42and then at some point,

00:38:43do they feel like they have to execute?

00:38:46Like a sick way of carrying out his thesis.

00:38:51Right.

00:38:51Where's she at?

00:39:02Where's she at?

00:39:04Where at?

00:39:05We're at 34.

00:39:06Hunter Johnson came up to me

00:39:07and I was like,

00:39:08where's Ethan and Xana?

00:39:09And he's like,

00:39:10they're not here anymore.

00:39:12I was like,

00:39:12what do you mean they're not here anymore?

00:39:13He's like,

00:39:14I think they were murdered last night.

00:39:16He was like,

00:39:19yeah, all four.

00:39:22We were like,

00:39:23what?

00:39:24It doesn't make no sense.

00:39:26Now to the murders

00:39:26of those four college students

00:39:28from the University of Idaho.

00:39:29And now,

00:39:30what happened minute by minute?

00:39:33You go into Xana's room.

00:39:35What did you see?

00:39:36Stabbing is close,

00:39:38personal,

00:39:39long-term.

00:39:41You've got to be committed.

00:39:44The number of times

00:39:45that Kaylee was stabbed.

00:39:47There's no sugarcoating it.

00:39:49The first person to find them.

00:39:50As soon as you get there,

00:39:52you know something's wrong.

00:39:54And a survivor

00:39:55who saw the killer in the house.

00:39:58The third time she opens her door,

00:40:00she sees a male figure.

00:40:02I just shut the door

00:40:03and walked in.

00:40:04I said he knew what to do.

00:40:06Now, just released

00:40:08inside his home

00:40:09and his mind.

00:40:11He was on a website

00:40:13called Serial Killer Timelines

00:40:14and he just went down this list

00:40:16and clicked

00:40:16one after another

00:40:18after another.

00:40:20And the police body camera

00:40:21from the crime scene.

00:40:22I think we have a homicide.

00:40:23Secure the outside first.

00:40:25He made an absolutely

00:40:26critical mistake.

00:40:28What was the target?

00:40:29Just over the hill

00:40:46is the University of Idaho campus.

00:40:49This is Greek Row,

00:40:51the Sigma Chi house right there.

00:40:53And as you cross the street,

00:40:54you enter that off-campus housing.

00:40:56And this area in particular

00:40:57is really popular.

00:40:59Students sort of pass down

00:41:00the houses

00:41:00from generation to generation.

00:41:02And in August of 2022,

00:41:04this is where five young girls

00:41:06moved in together.

00:41:07They're full of optimism,

00:41:09excited about life.

00:41:11And they're posting videos

00:41:12showing all of it online.

00:41:14And I wake up at night.

00:41:15Don't see your name on my phone.

00:41:18It's the moment when I think

00:41:19that I'm better as hell.

00:41:20We just called it

00:41:24the older girls' house.

00:41:25Maddie stayed there.

00:41:27And then Kaylee moved there.

00:41:29And then Zanna moved there.

00:41:30And then Bethany Diller moved there.

00:41:33And the sixth housemate

00:41:35was Kaylee's golden doodle.

00:41:37His name was Murphy.

00:41:38She was really excited

00:41:39to have the house dog.

00:41:42That's what she called it.

00:41:43Everything I like to do

00:41:44with my dog.

00:41:45The King Road house

00:41:48was a three-story white house

00:41:50right in the middle

00:41:51of Party Central.

00:41:54The house is three levels.

00:41:55It has six bedrooms,

00:41:56two on each floor.

00:41:59Bethany's bedroom

00:41:59is on the first floor.

00:42:02Zanna and Dylan's bedrooms

00:42:03are on the second floor,

00:42:05along with the kitchen

00:42:06and the sliding glass door

00:42:08leading out to the porch.

00:42:11Kaylee and Madison's bedrooms

00:42:13are on the third floor.

00:42:16And Ethan was over

00:42:17at the King Road house a lot.

00:42:19It was always friends of Ethan

00:42:21that would go over,

00:42:23friends of Zanna,

00:42:24friends of Kaylee and Maddie.

00:42:26There was never anybody

00:42:27who shouldn't have been there.

00:42:30People didn't really have

00:42:31any interest in going into houses

00:42:32where they didn't know anybody.

00:42:35It was a party neighborhood.

00:42:37Just in the sense that, like,

00:42:39you walked over to that area

00:42:40on Friday and Saturday nights,

00:42:42listening for where people

00:42:43might be at,

00:42:44and then you see someone

00:42:45you know, you wander over.

00:42:52It's Saturday, November 12th.

00:42:55It's the last home game

00:42:56for the University of Idaho Vandals.

00:42:58Celebration is in the air.

00:42:59Students start tailgating early.

00:43:01We had a lot of pre-games

00:43:04before the football games.

00:43:06If the game was early,

00:43:08we would try and wake up early.

00:43:10Zanna would usually be FaceTiming me,

00:43:11trying to wake me up,

00:43:12be like, hurry up, like, let's go.

00:43:14I had gotten texts from Ethan

00:43:15being like, why aren't you here yet?

00:43:17So I was like, okay,

00:43:19I won't keep you waiting any longer.

00:43:21The house on King,

00:43:23it was the cutest place to take pictures.

00:43:25Like, you could go on the third floor patio.

00:43:28That patio was the scene

00:43:30of so many happy moments.

00:43:33Maddie's mom, Karen Laramie,

00:43:35shared those moments

00:43:36in the Prime Video docu-series

00:43:38one night in Idaho,

00:43:39the college murders.

00:43:42Kaylee texted me

00:43:42with the picture of Maddie

00:43:45on her shoulders.

00:43:46Just loving this amazing,

00:43:49happy moment.

00:43:50I called Maddie

00:43:51and she put me on FaceTime

00:43:53and then I was having a conversation

00:43:54with all of them.

00:43:57Kaylee Gonzalez posted

00:43:58this last photo to Instagram,

00:44:00writing,

00:44:01one lucky girl

00:44:02to be surrounded

00:44:03by these people every day.

00:44:04We were with our whole friend group,

00:44:09which was a normal weekend for us,

00:44:11just hanging out with our friends.

00:44:13And then from there,

00:44:14we all kind of split off.

00:44:16And we were like,

00:44:16bye, I love you.

00:44:18Gave each other a hug.

00:44:20The triplets,

00:44:20they went to Maisie's formal.

00:44:22I think Xana just waited

00:44:23for Ethan probably.

00:44:25Ethan spent the beginning

00:44:26part of that night

00:44:27at the Betty's Ball

00:44:28with his sister.

00:44:30From there,

00:44:30he left with me

00:44:32back to Sigma Chi.

00:44:34The party continued

00:44:35after the formal.

00:44:37And Ethan really wanted you

00:44:38to come party.

00:44:40So he started off

00:44:41by texting me.

00:44:41I think he said,

00:44:42dog, come hang out.

00:44:44We all want you here.

00:44:45And it was like,

00:44:46spam texting me.

00:44:47And I said,

00:44:47I'm going to bed, I think.

00:44:49It was like nine.

00:44:50Or I'm not going to go.

00:44:52And then he said,

00:44:53love you.

00:44:54And I didn't even respond to that.

00:44:56I think I was asleep by then.

00:44:58And the I love you

00:44:59kind of stood out though.

00:45:02Well, yeah.

00:45:02Yeah, definitely.

00:45:04Because you didn't

00:45:05just normally text that

00:45:06to each other.

00:45:08Yeah.

00:45:12After the game,

00:45:14Kaylee and Maddie

00:45:15head down

00:45:15to the corner club.

00:45:17It's a big hangout

00:45:19for college students.

00:45:20They're having some drinks,

00:45:21hanging out with friends.

00:45:23And then they decide

00:45:24they need a snack.

00:45:25So they head downtown

00:45:26and they order mac and cheese

00:45:29from the grub truck.

00:45:30We live in this world right now

00:45:35where there are cameras

00:45:35everywhere.

00:45:36So we know that Kaylee

00:45:38and Maddie were at the food truck

00:45:40around 1.30 in the morning.

00:45:42Maddie was running around

00:45:42in that huge jacket,

00:45:44hugging people.

00:45:46Kaylee was just on her phone

00:45:47just laughing at Maddie.

00:45:50And she was just smiling.

00:45:52She was,

00:45:52they were happy.

00:45:53They were so happy.

00:45:54Maddie and Kaylee

00:45:56get a ride back

00:45:58to the King Road house

00:45:59using a rideshare.

00:46:00And by 2 a.m.,

00:46:02everyone's home.

00:46:03They're settling in

00:46:03for the night.

00:46:05It's like a sleepover.

00:46:06Kaylee sleeps in Maddie's bed,

00:46:08just like they've done

00:46:09since they were kids.

00:46:11But Zanna

00:46:12stays up.

00:46:14Zanna orders DoorDash

00:46:16and it gets delivered

00:46:17to the King Road house

00:46:18a little after 4 a.m.

00:46:20She takes it up

00:46:21to the kitchen,

00:46:22puts some of her food

00:46:23onto a plate

00:46:24and she's eating that

00:46:25in her bedroom.

00:46:27She's on social media,

00:46:28the latest of 4.12

00:46:30and just shortly after that.

00:46:33Everything seemed so normal

00:46:35in that home

00:46:36on King Road.

00:46:37But by the next morning,

00:46:39nothing would ever be the same.

00:46:43Emily got a call

00:46:44from Dylan

00:46:45around 11-ish.

00:46:48That's when I felt like

00:46:51I needed to go over.

00:46:52And then what happened next?

00:46:54I went into the house.

00:46:58I don't know

00:46:59what location

00:46:59of your emergency.

00:47:01Hi, something is happening.

00:47:03Something's happening

00:47:03in our house.

00:47:04We don't know what.

00:47:06We were complete panic.

00:47:07It's, this is,

00:47:09this is real.

00:47:10By 2 a.m.,

00:47:23all the roommates

00:47:24are back home

00:47:25and settling in

00:47:26for the night.

00:47:27Police say

00:47:28around 3 a.m.,

00:47:29shortly after leaving

00:47:30his apartment

00:47:30and heading towards Moscow,

00:47:32Brian Koberger

00:47:33turns his cell phone off.

00:47:35We can see Koberger's car

00:47:39on footage captured

00:47:41by a surveillance camera

00:47:43that was at the neighbor's house.

00:47:46He keeps circling the area.

00:47:48He's making multiple passes

00:47:50at the house.

00:47:51We believe that

00:47:56Brian Koberger

00:47:57entered the house

00:47:58sometime shortly

00:47:58after his last scene

00:48:00on the video.

00:48:02Somewhere probably

00:48:02around 4, 10 a.m.

00:48:05Police say Koberger

00:48:06entered through

00:48:07a sliding glass door

00:48:08in the back of the house.

00:48:10Investigators believe

00:48:11Zanna was in her room

00:48:12with her boyfriend,

00:48:13Ethan,

00:48:14asleep in her bed.

00:48:15Dylan's across the hall,

00:48:16Bethany,

00:48:17downstairs.

00:48:18And on the third floor,

00:48:20Kaylee and Maddie

00:48:20had fallen asleep together

00:48:22in Maddie's room.

00:48:24Zanna was up.

00:48:27We see activity

00:48:27from her watch

00:48:29of just steps

00:48:30that were taken.

00:48:31We know that she's eating.

00:48:32She's on social media

00:48:33at 4, 12,

00:48:34and just shortly after that.

00:48:36After entering the house,

00:48:38investigators believe

00:48:39Koberger walked

00:48:40through the kitchen

00:48:40and went upstairs

00:48:42to the third floor

00:48:43where he found Kaylee

00:48:44and Maddie

00:48:44together asleep.

00:48:46Kaylee and Maddie

00:48:49were both killed

00:48:50very quickly,

00:48:52but they were stabbed

00:48:52repeatedly many times.

00:48:58Stabbing is close,

00:49:00personal,

00:49:01long-term,

00:49:02violent action.

00:49:05You've got to be committed

00:49:08to do a homicide.

00:49:12What investigators think

00:49:13happened is that

00:49:14Zanna heard the commotion.

00:49:17At some point,

00:49:19Zanna comes,

00:49:20we believe,

00:49:21up the stairs.

00:49:22Brian Koberger

00:49:22either hears something

00:49:23or he hears the stairs.

00:49:25Something alerts him

00:49:27and takes him away

00:49:29from what he's doing

00:49:30in that bedroom.

00:49:33Investigators say Zanna

00:49:34turned and ran

00:49:36and that Koberger

00:49:37and that Koberger

00:49:37followed chasing her

00:49:39downstairs to her bedroom.

00:49:42Zanna,

00:49:43after that initial

00:49:44contact in the doorway,

00:49:46she's fighting him.

00:49:47We know that

00:49:47because she has

00:49:48defensive wounds

00:49:49all over herself.

00:49:50She fought like hell

00:49:52and we think

00:49:53at that point

00:49:53he realizes

00:49:54that there's a fourth person

00:49:55and that's Ethan

00:49:57that's in the bed.

00:49:58So he reaches over

00:50:00and stabs Ethan

00:50:02and killed Ethan instantly.

00:50:03He continues to fight

00:50:05with Zanna

00:50:06and ends up

00:50:06on the floor

00:50:07where ultimately

00:50:08he does finally kill her.

00:50:10At 4.17 a.m.,

00:50:13less than 10 minutes

00:50:14after investigators believe

00:50:15Brian Koberger

00:50:16entered the house,

00:50:18the neighbor's

00:50:18surveillance camera

00:50:19captures what police

00:50:20describe as a loud thud,

00:50:22the sound of a whimper

00:50:23and a dog barking.

00:50:27That camera

00:50:28is just about 50 feet

00:50:30from Zanna's bedroom.

00:50:31In Zanna's room

00:50:35some things

00:50:35were pushed around

00:50:36were moved around

00:50:37and I think

00:50:38that's something

00:50:39that you're probably

00:50:39hearing on the video.

00:50:41Because she was fighting.

00:50:42Right.

00:50:44After Koberger

00:50:45walks out

00:50:46of Zanna's room

00:50:47he then comes

00:50:48face to face

00:50:49with another one

00:50:50of her roommates.

00:50:51It's Dylan.

00:50:53Dylan was awakened

00:50:54by just some type

00:50:55of noises.

00:50:58Initially she thought

00:50:59it was the dog,

00:51:00Murphy.

00:51:00Then she thought

00:51:03she heard a male voice

00:51:04say,

00:51:05I'm here to help you.

00:51:07We believe

00:51:08that is Brian Koberger

00:51:09saying that to Zanna.

00:51:10He's doing something

00:51:12to try to calm her

00:51:13to make her relax

00:51:14of who he is

00:51:15and why he's

00:51:16in this residence.

00:51:18Dylan,

00:51:18as she had overheard

00:51:20multiple things

00:51:21throughout this time period,

00:51:23she had opened her door

00:51:24a couple different times.

00:51:25The third time

00:51:28she opens her door

00:51:29she sees a male figure.

00:51:32The description

00:51:32was a thin,

00:51:33tall individual

00:51:34wearing a mask

00:51:36almost described

00:51:36as a basketball player

00:51:38physique

00:51:39and bushy eyebrows.

00:51:41She momentarily saw him

00:51:43and then he turned

00:51:47and he left

00:51:47the residence.

00:51:49He knows people

00:51:50were awake

00:51:50probably believing

00:51:51at some point

00:51:51somebody called the police.

00:51:53I've got to get

00:51:54out of here.

00:51:56The fight

00:51:56was Anna

00:51:57could have just

00:51:58wiped him.

00:52:00We'll never know

00:52:01what made him

00:52:02pass that door

00:52:03up and head out.

00:52:04After that,

00:52:08Dylan is terrified.

00:52:09She starts texting

00:52:10Bethany,

00:52:11her roommate.

00:52:11Did you hear that?

00:52:12I'm trying to call

00:52:13the other roommates.

00:52:14They're not answering.

00:52:16You've got somebody

00:52:16who had been drinking,

00:52:19was in and out

00:52:21of slumber

00:52:21and somebody walks

00:52:23through in the middle

00:52:23of the night

00:52:24and still wonders

00:52:26in her own mind,

00:52:27did she see it

00:52:28or did she dream it?

00:52:31She makes a mad dash

00:52:32for Bethany's room

00:52:34and decides to run

00:52:35downstairs and spend

00:52:36the rest of the night

00:52:37with Bethany.

00:52:40As night turns into day,

00:52:43everything in Moscow

00:52:44is still quiet.

00:52:47But investigators say

00:52:49that Brian Koberger

00:52:50is awake.

00:52:51He's active.

00:52:52That includes

00:52:53spending more than

00:52:54an hour and a half

00:52:55on the phone

00:52:55with his mom

00:52:56and posing for a selfie,

00:52:58giving a thumbs up.

00:53:01Police say

00:53:02just after 9 a.m.,

00:53:04Koberger is on the move

00:53:05and he's headed back

00:53:06to 1122 King Road.

00:53:09He's not seen anything

00:53:10on the news.

00:53:11I think he certainly

00:53:12would expect.

00:53:13This is going to be

00:53:14everywhere immediately.

00:53:16So I think that

00:53:17his curiosity

00:53:18has absolutely

00:53:19gotten to him.

00:53:20And so he goes back

00:53:22to the area.

00:53:23But for all this training,

00:53:25for all of his things

00:53:27that he's studied,

00:53:28crime scene

00:53:29and serial killers,

00:53:30PhD program

00:53:31for criminology,

00:53:33he made an absolutely

00:53:34critical mistake

00:53:36in that house

00:53:37that night.

00:53:38I woke up in the morning.

00:53:55It was kind of like

00:53:56chill Sunday.

00:53:58Emily and Hunter

00:53:59came and were hanging out

00:54:01in my bed with me.

00:54:02And then

00:54:04Dylan called Emily

00:54:06and asked us all

00:54:07to come over.

00:54:11I could overhear

00:54:12what was going on.

00:54:13She sounded,

00:54:14freaked out.

00:54:15I just had a gut feeling

00:54:16and something in me

00:54:18told me that

00:54:18I need to just go.

00:54:21As soon as you

00:54:22get there,

00:54:24you know something's wrong.

00:54:28I walked

00:54:29just right in the door

00:54:31and Hunter already

00:54:33went up.

00:54:35And then he was like,

00:54:36okay,

00:54:37you,

00:54:37everybody get out.

00:54:39Hunter finds

00:54:40Zanna and Ethan

00:54:41murdered.

00:54:42But he decides

00:54:43to shield his friends

00:54:45from that reality

00:54:46and he tells them

00:54:47only that someone

00:54:48inside is unconscious

00:54:49and to call 911.

00:54:51911 location

00:54:52of your emergency.

00:54:53Hi,

00:54:54something is happening

00:54:55in our house.

00:54:55Something happened

00:54:56in our house.

00:54:57We don't know what.

00:54:59Dispatching Moscow

00:55:00law ambulance

00:55:01for unconsciousness

00:55:021122 King Red.

00:55:07Where's she at?

00:55:08Where's she at?

00:55:10Yes.

00:55:13Where at?

00:55:14Up here?

00:55:14Up here.

00:55:15I don't think

00:55:22any of us

00:55:23were prepared

00:55:23for that it's

00:55:25four young,

00:55:26completely innocent

00:55:27kids.

00:55:28Russell,

00:55:29please comment.

00:55:29We do

00:55:30apologize to people

00:55:32appearing both

00:55:33to be deceased.

00:55:34Lots of blood.

00:55:35Please comment.

00:55:36We're on third floor.

00:55:37We got another.

00:55:38We have

00:55:39two additional

00:55:41deceased

00:55:41on the third floor.

00:55:43Secure the outside first.

00:55:44I do it in the front door.

00:55:45There's a back entry.

00:55:46I was going to start

00:55:46taping it all off.

00:55:48Okay.

00:55:49Here.

00:55:50Can you guys

00:55:51go over to the dumpster

00:55:53for me, please?

00:55:55We were just placed

00:55:56on the street

00:55:57to sit down

00:55:58and wait.

00:55:59We were all cold.

00:56:02We were all scared.

00:56:03Our brains just started

00:56:04to continue to spiral.

00:56:06I kept calling your name

00:56:07and she wouldn't answer

00:56:08and then I saw the guy.

00:56:10Oh my God.

00:56:12Outside, police speak

00:56:14to Dylan.

00:56:15She's distraught.

00:56:17She's the roommate

00:56:18who told police

00:56:19she saw a masked man

00:56:21in the house that night.

00:56:22Describe the guy

00:56:22that you saw.

00:56:24He's a little bit

00:56:25taller than me.

00:56:26I'm almost positive.

00:56:28He's wearing

00:56:29a full black outfit

00:56:30and he had this mask

00:56:32that was just

00:56:32over his forehead

00:56:33and over his mouth

00:56:35and he didn't say

00:56:36anything to me

00:56:36like at all.

00:56:37I just shut the door

00:56:38and locked it

00:56:39because I didn't know

00:56:39what to do

00:56:40and I think he went out

00:56:42like the side door,

00:56:43the sliding door

00:56:43in the kitchen

00:56:44that goes out

00:56:45to the backyard.

00:56:45When we got there,

00:56:51that sliding glass door

00:56:52was left halfway open.

00:56:56You go into Zanna's room.

00:56:57What did you see?

00:56:58Zanna was there.

00:57:02She was laying on the floor

00:57:03and Ethan was on the bed.

00:57:13I got woken up

00:57:14by my friend.

00:57:16We'd partied pretty hard

00:57:17the night before.

00:57:18He's like,

00:57:18there's a ton of cops

00:57:19over at Zanna's house.

00:57:22I walked over there.

00:57:23I didn't see Ethan outside

00:57:24so I figured he was inside

00:57:25helping whoever

00:57:27needed to be helped.

00:57:30Okay, you mind

00:57:31hanging out here, please?

00:57:32Hunter Johnson came up

00:57:33to me and I was like,

00:57:35where's Ethan and Zanna?

00:57:36And he's like,

00:57:36they're not here anymore.

00:57:38I was like,

00:57:39what do you mean

00:57:39they're not here anymore?

00:57:40He's like,

00:57:40I think they were murdered

00:57:42last night.

00:57:44And you're

00:57:48at the grocery store?

00:57:49I was at the grocery store.

00:57:51Mm-hmm.

00:57:51And I was talking to a friend.

00:57:54Fine.

00:57:55It's okay.

00:57:56And my phone

00:57:58kept ringing

00:57:59and it was

00:58:00Hunter

00:58:01on the other end

00:58:03and

00:58:04he just

00:58:05said he's not here

00:58:06and he kept repeating it.

00:58:08And so I was like,

00:58:09well, go get him.

00:58:10Go find him.

00:58:11And he just kept saying it

00:58:12and he goes,

00:58:12no, Mom,

00:58:13you don't understand.

00:58:14Ethan and Zanna

00:58:14are not on this earth anymore.

00:58:17I just was like,

00:58:20there's just no way.

00:58:21And I drove down the road

00:58:27and called Jim

00:58:28and, you know,

00:58:29it makes it real

00:58:30when you have to repeat it.

00:58:33Right.

00:58:34It drives me

00:58:34crazy

00:58:36because I've always

00:58:37wanted to protect

00:58:38my family

00:58:39and there's really

00:58:41nothing there

00:58:41that I could have done

00:58:42instantly.

00:58:44He was taken.

00:58:46We still didn't know

00:58:54where Kaylee and Maddie were.

00:58:57We didn't know

00:58:57where Murphy was.

00:59:00And then

00:59:01U of I

00:59:02sent the

00:59:03homicide text.

00:59:05Throughout the day,

00:59:06the University of Idaho

00:59:07sent campus-wide

00:59:08text messages

00:59:09with updates

00:59:09on the investigation

00:59:11about a homicide

00:59:12and an unknown suspect.

00:59:14But at 5.17 p.m.,

00:59:16students get a text message

00:59:18that says,

00:59:19for the first time,

00:59:20four people

00:59:21had been killed.

00:59:23That was the moment

00:59:24that we knew

00:59:24where Kaylee and Maddie were.

00:59:31What time do you think

00:59:32you're going to sleep?

00:59:34The two surviving roommates,

00:59:36Dylan and Bethany,

00:59:37have received

00:59:38a lot of criticism

00:59:39for not calling 911

00:59:40immediately

00:59:41on the night

00:59:42of the murders.

00:59:43But they both

00:59:44told police

00:59:45they weren't certain

00:59:46that what Dylan

00:59:48thought she saw

00:59:49was real.

00:59:50I told her,

00:59:51Kaylee,

00:59:51I need to come to your room

00:59:52because she was the only one

00:59:53that was answering me.

00:59:54So I just ran down there.

00:59:55And for a second,

00:59:56I stopped

00:59:57and I saw Zanna

00:59:58passed out.

00:59:59And I thought maybe

00:59:59she was just sleeping

01:00:00or something.

01:00:01I didn't think anything

01:00:02because I was so out of it.

01:00:03I just fell asleep.

01:00:04And then we woke up

01:00:05this morning

01:00:05and no one was answering.

01:00:07We understand

01:00:07the disbelief

01:00:08that she's going through.

01:00:10What 19-year-old kid

01:00:12is going to come up with

01:00:13and assume

01:00:14what actually happened

01:00:16was happening.

01:00:18Investigators now know

01:00:20they're a few hours

01:00:21behind the killer.

01:00:22But as they walk

01:00:23into Maddie's

01:00:24third floor bedroom,

01:00:25police get their

01:00:26first big break.

01:00:28The comforter's over.

01:00:30The girls

01:00:30take the comforter off.

01:00:32Lo and behold,

01:00:33there's a knife sheath

01:00:34laying right there.

01:00:35They find a sheath

01:00:37for a K-bar-style knife.

01:00:39There's no murder weapon,

01:00:42but the sheath is there.

01:00:44That was definitely

01:00:45the first aha moment.

01:00:47We have something

01:00:48in this house

01:00:48from the killer.

01:01:00Four murdered students.

01:01:03A panicked campus.

01:01:06And now the world's eyes

01:01:08on Moscow, Idaho.

01:01:09Now to the murders

01:01:10of those four college students

01:01:11from the University of Idaho.

01:01:15As investigators,

01:01:16try to figure out

01:01:16what happened

01:01:17in that house

01:01:18on King Road.

01:01:19We've told the public

01:01:20very clearly

01:01:21from the beginning

01:01:22that we believe

01:01:22it was a targeted attack.

01:01:25They said,

01:01:26oh, this was a targeted attack,

01:01:27nothing to worry about.

01:01:28And my first question was,

01:01:29but you don't have anybody.

01:01:33That means there's

01:01:34somebody still out there.

01:01:37How could we not worry?

01:01:38We don't want to put

01:01:43our investigation

01:01:44in jeopardy

01:01:45by releasing

01:01:45what we have.

01:01:48The investigation

01:01:49grew massively.

01:01:51We were trying to get

01:01:52every piece of video footage

01:01:54from that day

01:01:55from every surveillance camera

01:01:56in town

01:01:56captured from that night.

01:01:59right across the street

01:02:02from Zanna's bedroom

01:02:03is a house.

01:02:04They have surveillance footage

01:02:05of a white Hyundai Elantra

01:02:07circling the house

01:02:08in the early morning hours

01:02:09of November 13th.

01:02:10We quickly realized

01:02:14that we had

01:02:15this white vehicle

01:02:16during this time

01:02:17leaving at a very fast,

01:02:19high rate of speed.

01:02:21You can see

01:02:22it is burning

01:02:23out of that neighborhood.

01:02:25So we believed

01:02:27at that point

01:02:28this was the vehicle

01:02:29of our subject.

01:02:29So we narrowed it down

01:02:33to a 2011

01:02:34to 2016 Elantra.

01:02:36Believe it or not

01:02:37when we ran

01:02:38Idaho registrations

01:02:40and just looking local

01:02:41we had over 25,000.

01:02:42The search to track down

01:02:43that car

01:02:44has no limits.

01:02:45We are just

01:02:46wanting to talk

01:02:46to the individuals

01:02:47who are in that vehicle.

01:02:51Investigators also

01:02:52have a crucial

01:02:53piece of evidence

01:02:54found at the crime scene

01:02:55left behind

01:02:56by the killer.

01:02:57A sheath

01:02:59for a K-Bar knife.

01:03:01This knife sheath

01:03:02was found

01:03:02under Matty's

01:03:04body in the bed.

01:03:06Immediately it stood out

01:03:08because it was

01:03:08in stark contrast

01:03:09to the entire house.

01:03:12About four days in

01:03:13the lab came back

01:03:14and said they had

01:03:15a sole source

01:03:16male DNA

01:03:17found on the button

01:03:18of the knife sheath.

01:03:19But there was no

01:03:20matches in CODIS

01:03:21for that DNA.

01:03:24Once we know

01:03:25we had the DNA

01:03:26from the sheath

01:03:27then we flew that

01:03:29to Othrum

01:03:29and then they started

01:03:30to develop

01:03:31and work their part

01:03:32of it.

01:03:34Othrum is a company

01:03:35in which we build

01:03:35technology to basically

01:03:37bring certainty

01:03:38to investigations.

01:03:41Forensic genetic

01:03:42genealogy is a tool

01:03:43that we use

01:03:44to identify someone

01:03:46or find the nearest

01:03:48relative.

01:03:48So I got a call

01:03:52and I was asked

01:03:53what is the fastest

01:03:55that we could produce

01:03:56a result.

01:03:59Kristen was adamant

01:03:59that we get

01:04:00these folks' answers.

01:04:02I can't imagine

01:04:03that being my child

01:04:05and knowing that

01:04:07there's someone out there

01:04:09that could help.

01:04:10We have to help.

01:04:11How fast can we get

01:04:12this DNA?

01:04:13It was a sergeant

01:04:15from the Moscow

01:04:16Police Department

01:04:16who got on a plane

01:04:17in Boise

01:04:18and they flew

01:04:21directly to Texas

01:04:22and hand-delivered

01:04:23it to Othrum.

01:04:25They brought us

01:04:26down a tube of DNA

01:04:27that was remaining

01:04:29from that knife sheath.

01:04:32That DNA extract

01:04:33contained a lot of DNA.

01:04:34It was not a trace

01:04:35amount of DNA.

01:04:36It was 500 times

01:04:38more DNA

01:04:38than we generally see

01:04:40in our low-quantity

01:04:41DNA cases.

01:04:41The technology

01:04:44at Othrum

01:04:44is then able

01:04:45to build a profile

01:04:46that's uploaded

01:04:47to genealogy databases

01:04:49which search for people

01:04:50who are connected

01:04:51to that unknown DNA.

01:04:54In this particular case

01:04:55there was a unique

01:04:55biogeographical ancestry

01:04:57that allowed us

01:04:58to kind of narrow

01:04:59the search

01:05:00even early on.

01:05:01And what we found

01:05:02is that there was

01:05:03a multi-generational

01:05:04American family

01:05:05based in Pennsylvania.

01:05:07Genetic relatives

01:05:08that were related

01:05:09to the person

01:05:10we were looking for

01:05:11while there's

01:05:12a massive

01:05:13multi-faceted

01:05:14investigation

01:05:14working to find him

01:05:16Ryan Koberger

01:05:17leaves Washington

01:05:18and heads home

01:05:19to Pennsylvania

01:05:19for winter break.

01:05:20He drives across

01:05:21the country

01:05:22with his father

01:05:23in that white

01:05:24Hyundai Elantra.

01:05:25Hello.

01:05:26How you doing?

01:05:27How y'all doing today?

01:05:28So it's a long trip

01:05:30from Moscow, Idaho

01:05:31all the way

01:05:32to Pennsylvania.

01:05:33Koberger's pulled over

01:05:34twice during this time.

01:05:36Right up on the back

01:05:37end of that van

01:05:38pulled you over

01:05:38for tailgating.

01:05:39So y'all work

01:05:40at the university there?

01:05:42Actually, we were there.

01:05:43And he's pulled over

01:05:44for following a vehicle

01:05:45too closely

01:05:46both times.

01:05:49By the time

01:05:50the Koberger's arrived

01:05:51back in Pennsylvania,

01:05:52the FBI had taken over

01:05:54that genetic genealogy

01:05:55search from Othram.

01:05:56And just over a month

01:05:58after the murders,

01:05:59investigators get a name.

01:06:02On December 19th,

01:06:03the investigative genealogy

01:06:04team leader calls in

01:06:05and he says,

01:06:06hey, Darren,

01:06:06he goes,

01:06:07I have a first name for you.

01:06:08It's Brian.

01:06:08And he goes,

01:06:09hey, we also have

01:06:10a last name for you.

01:06:11Koberger.

01:06:11And he drives

01:06:12a white Hyundai Elantra.

01:06:15Once we had his name

01:06:17at that point,

01:06:18immediately we knew

01:06:18that he was in Pennsylvania.

01:06:20When did the surveillance

01:06:21on him start?

01:06:22Immediately.

01:06:25He only left the house

01:06:27three times

01:06:27and he was noticed

01:06:28to be wearing

01:06:29rubber gloves

01:06:30all the times

01:06:31he had left the house.

01:06:32They need a way

01:06:35to test that DNA.

01:06:36So they pull the trash.

01:06:38The agent on scene

01:06:40had made contact

01:06:41with the trash company

01:06:44to be able

01:06:44to ride the truck

01:06:46to collect the trash.

01:06:49They sort anything

01:06:50that could contain DNA.

01:06:52They found an item

01:06:53in the trash

01:06:53that had male DNA

01:06:54that comes back

01:06:55and says,

01:06:56we have DNA

01:06:57in this trash

01:06:58that is the father

01:06:58of the DNA

01:06:59left on the knife sheet.

01:07:01Once we had

01:07:02the DNA paternity match

01:07:04from the trash pole.

01:07:06From a Q-tip specifically.

01:07:07Yeah.

01:07:07We knew at that point

01:07:09that we had the person

01:07:11whose DNA

01:07:12was on that sheath.

01:07:13At that point,

01:07:14you have what you need

01:07:16to get an arrest warrant

01:07:17for Brian Koberger.

01:07:19And news of an arrest

01:07:20spreads fast.

01:07:22The big story

01:07:23on Action News tonight

01:07:23is a major break

01:07:25in the murder

01:07:25of four Idaho

01:07:26college students.

01:07:27People in this

01:07:28sleepy Poconos community

01:07:30are stunned.

01:07:32We got live feed.

01:07:34We saw the armored

01:07:36vehicles roll in,

01:07:37then make entry,

01:07:38and we get the call out

01:07:40in custody.

01:07:49And we want to get right

01:07:50to our breaking news

01:07:51as we come on the air.

01:07:52The arrest

01:07:53of a 28-year-old man

01:07:54in Pennsylvania

01:07:55in connection

01:07:56with the brutal murders

01:07:57of four University

01:07:58of Idaho students.

01:07:59Nearly seven weeks

01:08:01after the brutal murders,

01:08:03an arrest

01:08:03is finally made.

01:08:05Pennsylvania State Police

01:08:06make that arrest.

01:08:08We've got live feed

01:08:09coming from the helicopter

01:08:10from Pennsylvania State Police.

01:08:11We're getting constantly

01:08:12updated on what's going on,

01:08:14telling us, yes,

01:08:15they've got Brian

01:08:16in the house.

01:08:17We saw the armored

01:08:18vehicles roll in,

01:08:19then make entry,

01:08:20and we get the call out

01:08:22in custody.

01:08:23Detectives arrested

01:08:2428-year-old Brian

01:08:26Christopher Koberger

01:08:28in Albrightsville, Pennsylvania.

01:08:31Koberger faces

01:08:32four counts

01:08:33of first-degree murder

01:08:34and one count

01:08:34of felony burglary.

01:08:43Authorities have not revealed

01:08:44a possible motive just yet.

01:08:46People in this sleepy

01:08:47Poconos community

01:08:48are stunned

01:08:49that one of their own

01:08:50has been arrested

01:08:51in connection

01:08:51with this grisly crime.

01:08:53Agents from the Scranton

01:08:54office of the FBI

01:08:56after the arrest

01:08:57interviewed Brian's parents.

01:08:59They were, you know,

01:09:00aghast.

01:09:01We do know

01:09:02there was conversation

01:09:05among the family

01:09:06about, hey, Brian

01:09:08does drive a car like that?

01:09:09Brian, do you think,

01:09:10you know,

01:09:10and it was immediately

01:09:12quashed.

01:09:14There's no way

01:09:14Brian can do this.

01:09:15No way.

01:09:15Nobody can comprehend

01:09:17that their child

01:09:19is capable

01:09:20of something like this.

01:09:22What was his reaction

01:09:24to the national media attention?

01:09:27He was very surprised,

01:09:28actually.

01:09:28He didn't realize

01:09:31that it would garner

01:09:32national media news,

01:09:33I would say.

01:09:34Really?

01:09:35Yeah, it actually was.

01:09:36It was surprising

01:09:37because he inquired

01:09:39as to which outlets

01:09:42were actually circling.

01:09:46Police department,

01:09:47search warrant,

01:09:48come to the door.

01:09:49After the arrest,

01:09:50police in Washington

01:09:50searched Koberger's apartment.

01:09:53And in these

01:09:53just-released photos,

01:09:54you can see

01:09:55the Spartan place

01:09:56he left behind.

01:09:57One of the few

01:09:58personal items

01:09:59they found

01:10:00is a birthday card

01:10:01from his parents.

01:10:02He was taken back

01:10:07to the Pennsylvania

01:10:08State Police Barrett

01:10:09immediately upon

01:10:10being arrested

01:10:11and had given

01:10:12what turned out

01:10:13to be about

01:10:13a two-and-a-half,

01:10:14three-hour statement.

01:10:15It was a significantly

01:10:16long time

01:10:17that he interviewed

01:10:17until he asked

01:10:18for an attorney.

01:10:19What did he tell you

01:10:20about that interview?

01:10:22He was very limited.

01:10:23I didn't want to know

01:10:24a lot about the case

01:10:26because he was going

01:10:28to have an attorney

01:10:29that would represent him

01:10:30on the murder charges.

01:10:32I want to make sure

01:10:33he's aware of how

01:10:34the process is going

01:10:35to play out.

01:10:36I want to make sure

01:10:36he understands

01:10:37that the death penalty

01:10:38may be considered

01:10:39in the case.

01:10:40You thought right away

01:10:41it would be a death penalty case?

01:10:42Oh, absolutely.

01:10:43I had zero doubt.

01:10:47Brian Koberger

01:10:48agreed to be extradited

01:10:49and he was flown

01:10:50across the country

01:10:51to the Moscow Pullman Airport

01:10:52and then brought here

01:10:53to the Latak County Jail

01:10:54to face murder charges

01:10:56while the world

01:10:57watched on.

01:10:58When they brought him

01:11:00off the plane

01:11:01people were like

01:11:02we got him

01:11:03thank God

01:11:04he wasn't a local

01:11:05he wasn't one of us.

01:11:08Koberger's attorneys

01:11:09enter a not guilty plea

01:11:10for him

01:11:11insisting that he's innocent

01:11:12but prosecutors decide

01:11:14to pursue the death penalty

01:11:16and as they prepare

01:11:17for trial

01:11:18they dig into every part

01:11:20of Koberger's life

01:11:21particularly

01:11:21his digital life

01:11:23sifting through

01:11:24his Amazon purchase history

01:11:25that showed

01:11:26he bought a K-bar knife

01:11:28and sharpener

01:11:29back in Pennsylvania

01:11:30and they look at his cell phone

01:11:32and computer searches

01:11:33right up until the days

01:11:36before his arrest.

01:11:38On Christmas night

01:11:39the 11 o'clock hour

01:11:40heading into

01:11:41the very early morning

01:11:42of the 26th

01:11:43he was on a

01:11:44rudimentary

01:11:45website called

01:11:47serial killer timelines

01:11:48just a list of

01:11:49hyperlinked names

01:11:50and he just went down

01:11:51this list

01:11:51and clicked

01:11:52one after another

01:11:54after another

01:11:54for like

01:11:56two hours

01:11:56December 27th

01:12:00there's some sort

01:12:01of a show

01:12:01that he watched

01:12:02it's a YouTube

01:12:03and it's Ted Bundy

01:12:05sort of standing

01:12:07facing forward

01:12:08with a hood

01:12:09pulled up

01:12:10and over the front

01:12:10and on 1229

01:12:12just two days later

01:12:12he's taking a picture

01:12:13of himself

01:12:14looking like Ted Bundy

01:12:16and although investigators

01:12:19weren't able

01:12:20to make a direct link

01:12:21between Brian Koberger

01:12:22and any of the victims

01:12:24those digital forensic experts

01:12:26did find something

01:12:27interesting

01:12:28on his phone

01:12:29the FBI gave us

01:12:30keywords

01:12:31and said okay

01:12:32search for these things

01:12:32we needed victim names

01:12:34we needed

01:12:34what did they call

01:12:36their Wi-Fi

01:12:36so all these things

01:12:38we searched for it

01:12:38and I remember saying

01:12:39to Jared

01:12:40I have a hit for Mad Greek

01:12:41remember

01:12:41Mad Greek

01:12:42is that Moscow restaurant

01:12:44where Maddie and Zanna

01:12:45both worked

01:12:46this search

01:12:47for Mad Greek

01:12:48however he arrived at it

01:12:50was done through

01:12:51the Google Maps app

01:12:52what we can say

01:12:53is that Mad Greek

01:12:55was presented to him

01:12:56on his phone

01:12:57it doesn't necessarily

01:12:58draw a hard line

01:12:59to these victims

01:13:00now to the sudden

01:13:04and stunning turn

01:13:05in the Idaho College

01:13:06murders case

01:13:07after insisting

01:13:08his innocence

01:13:08for nearly three years

01:13:10defendant Brian Koberger

01:13:11today pleading guilty

01:13:12to fatally stabbing

01:13:14four students

01:13:15Koberger had maintained

01:13:16his innocence

01:13:17the entire time

01:13:17but he decided

01:13:18to change his plea

01:13:19from innocent

01:13:20to guilty

01:13:21that was huge

01:13:23and as part

01:13:24of that plea deal

01:13:25prosecutors agree

01:13:26to take the death penalty

01:13:28off the table

01:13:28we got what we wanted

01:13:30and we got what

01:13:32the law

01:13:32when you say

01:13:33we got what we wanted

01:13:34though

01:13:34that we

01:13:36does not include

01:13:37all of the victims

01:13:38families

01:13:38there are victims

01:13:39families that have

01:13:40been very public

01:13:41about wanting

01:13:42more

01:13:42perhaps a taped

01:13:43confession

01:13:44the location

01:13:45of the murder

01:13:46weapon

01:13:46you don't felt

01:13:47like you

01:13:47you didn't feel

01:13:48like you could

01:13:48have asked

01:13:49for those things

01:13:49there was no

01:13:50legal way

01:13:50we could have

01:13:51compelled those

01:13:52and quite frankly

01:13:54there is nothing

01:13:56that he could have

01:13:57said that I think

01:13:58would have been

01:13:58credible or

01:13:59believable

01:13:59and the minimizing

01:14:02and the lies

01:14:03that would have

01:14:04been more damaging

01:14:05and frustrating

01:14:07to everybody

01:14:08without a trial

01:14:14Koberger moves

01:14:16right to a

01:14:16sentencing hearing

01:14:17and the loved ones

01:14:18for the victims

01:14:19finally get their

01:14:21own day in court

01:14:23alright so with that

01:14:24let's start with

01:14:25then impact statements

01:14:27I just wanted to

01:14:28reclaim their power

01:14:30the truth is

01:14:31as dumb as they come

01:14:33sloppy

01:14:34weak

01:14:35dirty

01:14:36Brian Koberger

01:14:45pleaded guilty

01:14:46to four counts

01:14:47of first degree

01:14:48murder

01:14:48but he still

01:14:50has to sit

01:14:51and face

01:14:52the families

01:14:52of his victims

01:14:53alright so with that

01:14:55let's start with

01:14:56then impact statements

01:14:57the first statement

01:14:59comes from one of the

01:15:00two surviving roommates

01:15:01Bethany Funk

01:15:02she's unable to be

01:15:03in the courtroom herself

01:15:04so her statement

01:15:05is read by her friend

01:15:06and also one of the

01:15:07first people to arrive

01:15:09at the house that day

01:15:10Emily Alon

01:15:10I was so frantic

01:15:12that morning

01:15:12and scared to death

01:15:13not knowing what

01:15:14had happened

01:15:14and when I made

01:15:18the 911 call

01:15:19I couldn't even

01:15:20get out the words

01:15:22and from then on

01:15:24I don't remember a thing

01:15:25I wish more than anything

01:15:27I could hug

01:15:28that one last time

01:15:29and I wish I could

01:15:31tell them how much

01:15:31I love them

01:15:32I will keep living

01:15:35for them as long

01:15:35as I am lucky enough

01:15:36to still be here

01:15:37and then

01:15:39it's the second

01:15:41surviving roommate

01:15:42Dylan Mortensen

01:15:43Dylan

01:15:44Dylan just take your time

01:15:45alright

01:15:45I was barely 19

01:15:57when he did this

01:15:58I was forced to learn

01:16:00how to survive

01:16:00the unimaginable

01:16:01I couldn't be alone

01:16:04and then there are

01:16:06the panic attacks

01:16:07the kind that slam into me

01:16:10like a tsunami

01:16:10out of nowhere

01:16:11I can't breathe

01:16:13I can't think

01:16:17I can't stop shaking

01:16:19living is how I honor them

01:16:22speaking today

01:16:23is to help me find

01:16:24some sort of justice

01:16:25for them

01:16:26he may have taken

01:16:28so much from me

01:16:29but he will never

01:16:30get to take my voice

01:16:31one after another

01:16:38family members

01:16:40describe the loved ones

01:16:41they lost

01:16:42and notably

01:16:45among them

01:16:47is Kaylee's sister

01:16:48Olivia Gonsalves

01:16:49my sister Kaylee

01:16:51and her best friend

01:16:52Maddie

01:16:52were not yours to take

01:16:54they were not yours

01:16:56to study

01:16:56to stalk

01:16:57or to silence

01:16:58the whole time

01:17:02I just wanted to

01:17:03reclaim their power

01:17:05reclaim their voice

01:17:07especially in a way

01:17:08that really was

01:17:09the end to this chapter

01:17:11you got under his skin

01:17:12absolutely

01:17:13disappointments like

01:17:16you thrive on pain

01:17:17on fear

01:17:18and on the illusion

01:17:19of power

01:17:20the truth is

01:17:21the scariest part

01:17:23about you

01:17:24is how painfully

01:17:25average you turned

01:17:26out to be

01:17:27the truth is

01:17:29you're as dumb

01:17:30as they come

01:17:31stupid

01:17:32clumsy

01:17:33slow

01:17:34sloppy

01:17:35weak

01:17:36dirty

01:17:37did you say

01:17:40everything that you

01:17:40wanted to say

01:17:41for the most part

01:17:43yes

01:17:43I didn't want to

01:17:44break eye contact

01:17:45so that gaze

01:17:47was so

01:17:48intense

01:17:49and it really

01:17:51did feel like

01:17:51like a standoff

01:17:53you want the truth

01:17:55here's the one

01:17:57you'll hate the most

01:17:57if you hadn't

01:17:59attacked them

01:18:00in their sleep

01:18:00in the middle

01:18:02of the night

01:18:02like a pedophile

01:18:03Kaylee would have

01:18:05kicked your

01:18:05ass

01:18:06the Chapin family

01:18:15was not

01:18:16at the sentencing

01:18:17they chose instead

01:18:19to honor Ethan

01:18:20privately

01:18:21the Chapins

01:18:26recently got

01:18:26to visit

01:18:27that DNA lab

01:18:28that played

01:18:28such a crucial

01:18:29role in solving

01:18:30this case

01:18:30it came after

01:18:31a chance meeting

01:18:32a few years back

01:18:33this stranger

01:18:34who I did not know

01:18:36came up

01:18:36and she just

01:18:37wrapped her arms

01:18:38around me

01:18:38and hugged me

01:18:39and she just said

01:18:40we are working

01:18:41on your case

01:18:41and you don't

01:18:42have to worry

01:18:42everything will be

01:18:44okay

01:18:44everything's gonna

01:18:45be okay

01:18:45that there will

01:18:46be justice

01:18:46in the outcome

01:18:47I mean that was

01:18:48what I was trying

01:18:49to relay

01:18:49right

01:18:49and that's how

01:18:50it felt

01:18:51Jim and I

01:18:51would rely

01:18:52on that information

01:18:53to you know

01:18:54in your toughest

01:18:55days you were like

01:18:56Kristen told us

01:18:57not to worry

01:18:58and we

01:18:58and we use that

01:18:59the Chapins

01:19:00now want to help

01:19:01advocate for the work

01:19:02being done

01:19:03at this lab

01:19:04maybe our

01:19:05our family

01:19:05could become a face

01:19:06for the victim's

01:19:08side of what

01:19:09these people do

01:19:10if we can make

01:19:10a positive impact

01:19:11for the future

01:19:13on some level

01:19:14it's important

01:19:15I miss him

01:19:18every day

01:19:18when you lose

01:19:19your son

01:19:20at 20

01:19:21it's a different

01:19:22loss

01:19:23and I miss him

01:19:25every single day

01:19:27alrighty

01:19:32it's nice that

01:19:32you know

01:19:33when we have

01:19:33so many different

01:19:34photographs

01:19:34and videos

01:19:35and we can still

01:19:37hear their voices

01:19:37they were some

01:19:38really really cool

01:19:39people

01:19:39it helps

01:19:42to remember them

01:19:44and not

01:19:45what happened

01:19:45to them

01:19:46hopefully one day

01:19:48they're just seen

01:19:49as who they are

01:19:50and not what

01:19:50happened to them

01:19:51and just as college

01:19:57is starting again

01:19:58there's now a memorial

01:19:59garden at the

01:20:00University of Idaho

01:20:01with a plaque

01:20:01bearing the name

01:20:02of each of the

01:20:03four victims

01:20:04a touching tribute

01:20:05as for Brian

01:20:05Koberger David

01:20:06he received

01:20:07four life sentences

01:20:08one for each

01:20:09of his victims

01:20:10and an additional

01:20:11ten years for

01:20:12burglary

01:20:12as part of that

01:20:13plea deal

01:20:14he waived his

01:20:14right to an appeal

01:20:15that's our program

01:20:17for tonight

01:20:17thanks so much

01:20:18for watching

01:20:18I'm Deborah Roberts

01:20:19and I'm David Muir

01:20:20from all of us

01:20:21here at 2020

01:20:22and ABC News

01:20:23good night

01:20:48thank you

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