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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:22In the Turner Park neighborhood.
00:31A concerned father checks on his son after several calls go unanswered.
00:49They find the son lying on the floor in a back room,
00:52stabbed multiple times.
01:00Wake him up!
01:02He's gonna wake up!
01:04Go ahead and call Major Pound.
01:06Yeah.
01:06We're gonna get the people out here to get all the evidences.
01:09Oh, no!
01:10Oh, no!
01:20For homicide detectives, their chance of solving a murder is cut in half
01:25if they don't get a lead within the first 48 hours.
01:30Agent 2.
01:30Oh, no!
01:37This is the main thing.
01:43We're seeing him recognize him.
01:47We're seeing him.
01:47Are you looking at the advance?
01:48Reginald?
01:49Reginald, we're away.
01:50Sergeant Nathan Schilling will lead the investigation.
01:54The contractor's been out since 10 o'clock this morning,
01:56working up in the yard, said he thought it was odd
01:58that the victim never came out.
02:00He said, I called, no answer.
02:02Eventually, he said, at some point, I called Dad.
02:04Dad says, I'm on my way.
02:06Dad gets here, there's a lot.
02:08They go in, kind of mill through the house.
02:10The contractor sees the victim laying on the floor,
02:12you know, a lot of blood.
02:14Quite a bit of blood.
02:17The victim found John Christopher Fender.
02:2157-year-old John Christopher Fender
02:23known as Chris, was born and raised in Tulsa.
02:27He worked as an insurance agent
02:28and spent much of his spare time working on his home and cars.
02:32He leaves behind a large family,
02:35including his father and stepmother,
02:37sister, and several nieces and nephews.
02:43Victim is in this house.
02:44Okay. They got the warrant.
02:46The team secured a warrant to search Chris' home.
02:55And here is really where everything hurt, I believe.
03:06So, you stabbed.
03:09Chris was stabbed more than 70 times.
03:18There's a lot of blood on the ground.
03:22Over here, there's a lot more.
03:26It is everywhere.
03:34Oh, wow.
03:38And there's a knife that's sitting on top of that sink down there.
03:44A second knife and a bloody t-shirt are discovered in the kitchen trash can.
03:50You said there were cameras supposed to be in the house?
03:52There are.
03:54Chris has surveillance cameras inside and outside of his home.
03:58I'll have to take it.
04:00It's passcode locked.
04:02The system will have to be accessed by the cyber unit.
04:06Thank you guys.
04:06Thank you so much.
04:11I got the contractor here.
04:12He said he's willing to come down if we need to interview him.
04:15Dad is very, very emotional.
04:18And I understand.
04:19You know, you walk in and find your son like that.
04:22The suspect is Blake McDonald.
04:25Chris's father told responding officers that he believes Chris's ex-boyfriend, Blake,
04:30may be responsible for his son's murder.
04:34This is Blake.
04:35He's about six foot, tall, about 109 pounds.
04:38White male?
04:39Yes.
04:40Approximately 29 years old.
04:42These two have been assigned a lot in the past year.
04:45This Blake guy had been living there.
04:47Supposedly he'd been kicked out, but he apparently moved back in.
04:52Also, there was a check for well-being out here last night.
04:55Last night, around 9 p.m., an officer was dispatched to Chris's house,
04:59after a clerk at a marijuana dispensary reported that Blake had come into the store
05:04and made threatening statements.
05:06Did he make contact with the victim at 9?
05:08Nope.
05:09Did he knuckle the door?
05:11Tried to go around back to look.
05:12Didn't make contact with anybody.
05:15All right.
05:21My name is Nathan Schilling.
05:23I'm going to be the lead detective on this case.
05:25Schilling speaks with Chris's father.
05:27This is my partner, Detective Warren.
05:29He's already spoken to you.
05:31You've been around some , and I know it.
05:35But I doubt if you've ever, ever seen anybody more pissed than I am right now.
05:41Ever.
05:42I can totally understand why.
05:45I totally understand why.
05:47I broke 67 bones.
05:48I've had knives stuck in me.
05:50I've been hit with a lightning twice.
05:52I've towed three cars, 140 miles an hour stooping me when I was young.
05:57And brother, all the that I've been through, don't you?
06:02You don't want to be kidding me for this.
06:04You don't want to be kidding me for this.
06:09You don't want to be kidding me for this.
06:10I'm sorry, man.
06:10I'm sorry.
06:11You really are.
06:12This isn't how it's supposed to be.
06:14No.
06:14Parents aren't supposed to bury their kids.
06:17I'm so sorry, sir.
06:19I wish I had been there.
06:23I'll say this, and I said it to the other police officers.
06:27He's been making me nervous the last two weeks.
06:29Chris's neighbor speaks up about Blake.
06:32I never had a conversation with him because he was always a little bit strange.
06:35I saw him at the gym a couple weeks ago, and he was talking to himself and being weird
06:39and paced around.
06:40I wasn't even using any equipment.
06:41I'll talk to anybody, but I just kept my distance with him.
06:48Then...
06:49Suspect card, 2006 Lincoln sedan, maroon in color, AXR.
06:53The team gets the tag number for Blake's car.
06:57It checks back to Blake's name, mother's address, and this is mom's address.
07:02Someone else already went out there and made contact.
07:06Officers spoke to members of Blake's family, but no one has seen or heard from him.
07:11You got guys moving around right now, kind of looking for the car?
07:14Yes, sir.
07:14A statewide bolo has been issued for Blake's car.
07:17We got a tag number, which is good.
07:19We just gotta look at it.
07:26One hour in.
07:28It's been kind of progressively getting worse over the last month.
07:31Another neighbor approaches a shilling about Blake's behavior.
07:35I watched him just last week.
07:36He sat out here just walking back and forth into the carport, just yelling and talking to himself
07:40and sitting there having a full-blown argument with nobody.
07:44There was something definitely wrong with him.
07:46I don't know exactly what it was, but he definitely needs some help.
07:50All right.
07:52So I think my partner already said you'd be willing to go downtown and visit with us?
07:58Yeah.
07:59Chris's contractor agrees to be interviewed at headquarters.
08:02We can go together if you want.
08:04You come with me?
08:05Oh, yeah.
08:06Yeah.
08:06Chris's father also agrees to talk downtown.
08:09We'll talk to you each individually and get your story.
08:12I don't have a story.
08:14And I know who's done it.
08:15And you know who's done it.
08:19Dad immediately thought that Blake was the person that did this.
08:23So we're leaning towards that.
08:24We don't necessarily know yet.
08:25We'll find out.
08:27We're gonna find Blake.
08:38Blake Matthew McDonald.
08:4029-year-old Blake McDonald, an aspiring actor from Tulsa, works the night shift at a home
08:46improvement store.
08:47He has no prior convictions.
08:49It would appear that, I mean, there's really no other suspect other than his significant
08:53other at this point.
08:55We still have to dot our I's and cross our T's because we don't want to jeopardize anything.
09:01So we're gonna holler at the victim's dad and the contractor that was working in the yard.
09:06Try to get a little bit more of the backstory.
09:08We'll go get this rolling.
09:12I don't know if we spoke a little bit out there and we got a kind of summary of what
09:16you saw
09:17and what happened today.
09:18Detective Reggie Warren starts with Chris's contractor.
09:22You were over the house today doing some landscaping, concrete work, stuff like that.
09:26How long have you known?
09:2910 years.
09:31Maybe longer than that.
09:35What kind of guy would you describe him as?
09:39Good person.
09:41Kind person.
09:44Very witty.
09:46You know, he had a real good sense of humor about him.
09:49A great guy.
09:50Great guy.
09:51Okay.
09:52Today you got to the house.
09:54But what time did you get there?
09:56I got there this morning around 10 o'clock.
09:58And I just got my tools out and went to work.
10:04Chris had not been out of his house all day.
10:08So I called him.
10:10Okay.
10:10You didn't get any answers.
10:11I didn't get any answers.
10:12And then I done some more work and I called him again.
10:18Got no answer.
10:20So then I called his dad and I said,
10:23Hey, have you heard from Chris?
10:25I can't get a hold of him.
10:27I said, his cars are here, but I hadn't seen him all day.
10:30He said, that's strange.
10:31Something's wrong.
10:32I'll be there and we'll check on him.
10:34He was about to put the key in the door.
10:35And I said, hey, why don't we try that door and see if it's locked first.
10:39And when he opened it up, something told me for sure that something's not right because Chris does not leave
10:46his door unlocked even when he's in the house.
10:51So then I hollered for Chris.
10:53Didn't get no response.
10:54And I turned the corner to go into the office.
10:57And on the door frame there was just covered in blood.
11:04I went around and I noticed he's laying there on his back.
11:08And that's when I ran out of the house and I said, I'm going to call an ambulance.
11:15So just kind of describe the relationship between Chris and Blake.
11:19I guess the word would be tumultuous.
11:24They were in a relationship.
11:26I know they were having lots of arguments about different things.
11:30Chris had kicked Blake out for drinking and drugging and cheating on him.
11:37I feel like probably if anybody was to do it, it would be Blake.
11:59I didn't like Blake.
12:02He's just straight.
12:10Always pacing, talking to himself, very disturbing.
12:15That's not normal.
12:17I really appreciate you coming in.
12:19Yeah.
12:23I feel for his dad.
12:24His dad's never going to be the same.
12:26I feel for his dad as well.
12:27I feel for all these guys.
12:32In the next room...
12:33I knew Chris was dead.
12:37I knew it.
12:39Chilly speaks with Chris's father.
12:41Yeah.
12:43Just...
12:44Sometimes you just know when something's not right.
12:47I knew Blake was going to kill him.
12:52But I always thought Chris could protect himself.
12:56Chris was a father figure to him.
12:59So is Blake considerably younger than Chris?
13:02Yes.
13:03Through your dentist.
13:06He started to help him.
13:08He started to guide him.
13:10Like, he had no friends.
13:12No relationship with the father figure.
13:14Very little relationship with his mother.
13:17But he always had these...
13:19He talked crazy in his head.
13:22Did Chris ever express any concerns about his behavior to you?
13:27Yeah.
13:29He told me...
13:31He's constantly patient.
13:34Talking to himself.
13:36He's a...
13:37He needs to get some middle of it, you know?
13:41Chris is always talking to me about he's wanting to help him.
13:44He's hoping that he can talk to him.
13:46And he'll...
13:49And kind of mentally straighten himself out.
13:54He took on a project, Chris did, if you will.
13:58He's got a good heart.
14:00How long have, uh...
14:02Chris and Blake known each other?
14:04Well, it has to be he was 19.
14:07Blake was 19?
14:09Yes.
14:09He says Chris met Blake 10 years ago.
14:12And I don't know how they met.
14:16So there's...
14:18No one else that lives there besides...
14:21Chris and Blake.
14:22Blake, yes, that's sometimes.
14:24Blake's there sometimes, sometimes he's gone?
14:26Chris has kicked him out, okay?
14:28He had to call his clothes and the car's been gone.
14:30When was this?
14:31He says Chris asked Blake to move out three or four months ago.
14:35So at some point he let him back in, though,
14:38because in there...
14:38It sounded like Blake's been around the last couple of weeks.
14:43Yeah, he's been there off and on.
14:45He was sleeping in his car.
14:47Chris wouldn't let him in.
14:49Are you aware if either of them ever mess around with any kind of drugs?
14:53Yeah, Blake all the time.
14:54Not Chris ever.
14:56Okay.
14:57I mean, obviously our goal is to go find Blake at this point.
15:00And I appreciate you coming down here and visiting with me.
15:17Four hours in.
15:18Talking to officers at the scene, they told me that a call had come in last night from the dispensary
15:24here south of downtown.
15:26Blake had been in there and the worker called in at like nine and said that he had made some
15:34homicidal and suicidal statements.
15:36They rattled her.
15:38Pablo made contact with her, got her to come downtown and talk to us.
15:48Hello.
15:50I'm gonna go on a limb and say that one of my partners talked to you about what this was
15:54about.
15:54Mm-hmm.
15:55Okay.
15:57Tell me what happened, to the best of your recollection, all right?
16:01Okay.
16:03Um...
16:04He came into the dispensary.
16:07He was moving, like, very erratically.
16:10Like, he's been like that the past couple of times he's been in the store.
16:14Like, I recognized him when I pulled his name out.
16:16He sketches me out a little bit.
16:18He said he needed dime cards and then he started talking about how he was going to go kill someone.
16:28And he said at one point he was gonna ax someone.
16:33He said something like, you're gonna see this on the news tomorrow.
16:37And that was when I was like, I have to call the police.
16:56It took me, like, 20 minutes to make the call because we were busy with other people.
17:06Did it sound like he was going to go and do something to more than one person?
17:13No, because he made it sound like he was gonna hurt himself, too.
17:16Like, he was gonna either kill himself or he was gonna die somehow.
17:22Like, I'm gonna die, too, or I wanna die tonight.
17:27Okay.
17:28Well, thank you for calling.
17:30I know this has to be hard for you.
17:32It's, uh, not an everyday occurrence.
17:36Mm-hmm.
17:37All right, we'll, uh, get you out of here.
17:44That girl's in shock.
17:46She was scared to death.
17:47She is. She feels real bad.
17:49Her boss is like, I can get you a video.
17:51Detective Pablo Zuniga pulls up surveillance video he collected from the dispensary.
17:56That's him getting there. He's running in.
18:00Blake arrives at 8.22 p.m.
18:04So he's walking. He's incredibly agitated.
18:09All kinds of movements everywhere.
18:12This isn't sped up or anything. This is his real speed.
18:16He's whacked out.
18:19The clerk is saying that he's, uh, very agitated and angry and just making statements about wanting to hurt people
18:27with an axe.
18:29He mentioned that he was also gonna die or kill himself.
18:38He does, like, a double gun move to his head right there.
18:46Over here, he starts making stabbing motions to his own neck.
18:52Poor girl's like, I just want to get you out of here.
18:58Those are the shoes that's in the house with blood.
19:06That's pretty good.
19:08And here he's premeditating. I'm going to go.
19:11Oh, yeah.
19:13This might be one of the most premeditated murders I've had.
19:19That's it.
19:22Blake leaves the dispensary at 8.27 p.m.
19:26And then his vehicle hits flop, going westbound on Admiral Harbor, right at 21.03.
19:32At 9.03 p.m., 36 minutes after Blake left the dispensary, his car was picked up by license plate
19:38cameras driving away from Chris's house.
19:41I wonder if he went home, and then he killed him, and then he fled the scene.
19:47The employee from the dispensary called in at 20.52.
19:50According to her, it was about a 20-minute time lapse.
19:53He gave his address. Officers went by the house.
19:56Body cam footage from yesterday.
19:59McNeil pulls up body cam from the officers sent to check on Blake.
20:07This officer's checking the perimeter, trying to get in contact with some of the house.
20:11Nobody's answering the door.
20:12I'm thinking, our victim's in the house dead already.
20:15But this officer doesn't know. I mean, there's no reason for him to think anything's going on in the house.
20:20He walked to each side of the house, looked over the fence.
20:28I mean, there's no reason for him to do anything more.
20:35He got there really right at 2101.
20:3921, close to 2102.
20:41And his vehicle's hitting the flood down the street at 2103.
20:45So I think that's when he's fleeing the scene.
20:48The officer arrived at the house one minute after license plate cameras captured Blake's car, leaving the scene.
20:55So he barely missed him?
20:56Barely missed him.
20:57And so, is it possible it could happen in that, that's a small window?
21:03I think it had to happen in that window.
21:05If he's got the shoes on at the dispensary and they're clean, he's not covered in blood.
21:12I think his phone data will tell the tale.
21:15Yeah.
21:17McNeil sent a warrant to Blake's phone company, requesting his location records.
21:22We should hopefully get some data hopefully by tomorrow.
21:25Nice.
21:26Hope.
21:27We'll see.
21:32Seven hours in.
21:34The suspect called in 3.59 a.m.
21:38He said that his roommate just tried to stab him.
21:41Dispatch informs the team that Blake called 911 eight hours after the murder from near Stringtown, Oklahoma.
21:49Stringtown, what, an hour and a half, two hours?
21:51Two and a half hours.
21:51Two hours.
21:53Stringtown is about 125 miles south of Tulsa.
21:59Tulsa, police.
22:01Um, me and my boyfriend got into some sort of opication.
22:06Like, he tried stabbing me.
22:10I drove away to, you know, get the fresh air.
22:15I was in shock.
22:29What is your name?
22:30Blake McDonald.
22:38I just don't know what happened to him.
22:41He was okay when I left him.
22:42What location are you at?
22:44I need to send an officer to speak with you and take the report.
22:48I am in the train, like, Tulsa in Stringtown right now.
22:52Okay.
22:52So, do you plan on coming back to Tulsa?
22:55I don't have a car.
22:56I hit a deer.
22:57I'm on the side of the highway, uh, walking to Stringtown.
23:01All right, Blake.
23:02What I'm gonna do, I'm gonna put this in and see if an officer or a supervisor will leave you
23:08at all.
23:08All right, thank you.
23:09No problem.
23:10A supervisor called Blake, but he didn't answer.
23:14I wonder if somebody maybe came in contact with that car.
23:17I already called them.
23:19Zuniga reached out to the local sheriff's department and asked them to look for Blake's car.
23:23Their assistant chief called back and said, if we run into the car, we'll give you a call back.
23:28But their dispatch said, according to their records, they had no, nobody out asking for help for hitting a deer
23:34or anything last night.
23:37He called the police last night and said that his boyfriend tried to stab him.
23:44To me, I feel like the call is self-serving.
23:47I would argue that, you know, he just called to try to give himself some sort of self-defense claim.
23:53Eight hours in, the team still has no leads on Blake's whereabouts.
23:57I would be concerned for the safety of others at this point.
24:01Talking to witnesses, he's got some abnormal behaviors.
24:05Sometimes there's medical issues for that, and other times it's drug-induced.
24:10And then sometimes, which is probably more common than not, a combination of the two.
24:17You know, there's a lot of struggles with both of those in society.
24:21And when someone that has some mental health issues exacerbates it with drug use, then, you know, it's kind of
24:28a tempest.
24:37One hour later.
24:39So Margo, doing what Margo does, she did an offline search on Blake and found out that a deputy down
24:48outside of Kiowa ran Blake.
24:50Crime analyst Margo Hain-Bell discovers that around midnight last night, a deputy found Blake's car on the side of
24:57the road in Pittsburgh County, Oklahoma.
25:00So that's probably a hundred miles south of here.
25:04The deputy said, yeah, the car was disabled, parked on the side of the road.
25:09They found him walking down the highway with a laceration to his face.
25:13Blake says he hit a deer.
25:15The deputy gave him a ride to Kiowa and dropped him off at a convenience store.
25:20Blake got a ride from the deputy four hours before he called 911 from Stringtown to report that his boyfriend
25:27had tried to stab him.
25:30Stringtown's probably another 30 miles down the highway.
25:33You know, if Blake had really been assaulted, the first opportunity he comes in contact with law enforcement, you know,
25:40when you think it might be something important to tell them.
25:42But the deputy said when he asked Blake what happened to his face, Blake said the deer kicked him in
25:48the face.
25:49So only later to decide that maybe it's in my best interest to try to get ahead of this and
25:55at least put a self-defense story up.
25:57So I think it's pretty clear that it's just trying to cover his tracks when he makes that phone call.
26:08Then...
26:10So according to phone stuff, he's somewhere in Texas.
26:15Blake's phone location records finally come in.
26:18Somewhere in Dallas-Fort Worth Airport area.
26:21Somewhere in there.
26:23That was at 9.02 p.m.
26:25Blake's phone was last picked up by cell towers near Dallas four hours ago.
26:30Better hope this dude would fly to Afghanistan.
26:33We called Dallas-Fort Worth Police Department, the airport police, and they're checking their terminals.
26:38But I think there's hotels around the terminals.
26:41This place is so huge.
26:43There's a lot of different areas he could go.
26:46A lot of ground to cover.
26:47So certain installs is going to reach out to some federal agents and see if they can help us and
26:52figure out where he went.
26:56Awesome. Thank you.
26:58The unfortunate part is he might have already hopped on a flight.
27:10The next morning.
27:11Alright, thank you so much, sir.
27:13Okay, have a portion.
27:14Bye.
27:15Pretty important news.
27:16We have some contacts down at the FBI and they were able to check the flight itineraries for my suspect.
27:25And it would appear he is on a flight currently from Dallas to JFK and has a connecting flight onto
27:33Paris.
27:35Obviously we want to snatch him before he leaves the country.
27:38Blake's flight is due to land at JFK Airport in New York in two hours.
27:42I'm going to try to get this warrant knocked out really quick so that when they land, they'll board the
27:47plane and take him into custody.
27:52One hour later.
27:54So I got a warrant issued, $5 million bond since he was trying to flee the country.
27:58Oh, mercy.
27:59What?
28:00That's what I'm talking about.
28:02Hopefully the Port Authority up in New York will be able to pick him up as soon as he lands.
28:07And, uh, we're going to go talk to the family.
28:10Hopefully while we're talking to him, we'll get him in custody.
28:29Shilling and Warren update Chris's family.
28:32As soon as we hear something, we'll let y'all know.
28:36As soon as we hear something, we'll let y'all know.
28:37Oh, thank you.
28:39Take care.
28:41Yes, sir.
28:41Yes, sir.
28:43As Shilling and Warren leave Chris's family, 1,400 miles away at JFK Airport, Blake's plane has just landed.
29:07Oh, thank you.
29:21Sir, Blake.
29:22How are you?
29:23Do you want to let me on you?
29:24Yes.
29:27Can I see you right there?
29:28Yeah.
29:31Put all your stuff right there.
29:32All my stuff?
29:33Yep.
29:33We're right there, right here.
29:34Your hands right back there.
29:35Whoa.
29:36Oh, yeah.
29:36Oh, yeah.
29:36Oh, yeah.
29:36Oh, yeah.
29:36Port Authority police officers take Blake into custody.
29:54Back in Tulsa.
29:58He's in custody.
29:59They're emailing me what they have.
30:01All right.
30:02Let me just run in there and tell them real quick.
30:07See, I just had to try to leave.
30:09He's in custody.
30:10He got him.
30:11They got him up there.
30:12They got him on the plane.
30:13I don't know the story yet, but we'll hear it.
30:16We got some work to do.
30:17We'll talk to God.
30:26Later that afternoon...
30:27There's quite a bit of evidence that he had with him.
30:29His clothing he was wearing and he had two backpacks of stuff.
30:34Blake will be held in New York until he can be extradited back to Tulsa.
30:39We may try to go up there and take an opportunity to interview him, but eventually he will be brought
30:45back to Tulsa and have to answer for what he's done.
30:49With just over 24 hours left in the first 48, the team must now wait to hear Blake's side of
30:56the story.
31:11Eight days later...
31:12Well, we just landed in New York City, so me and Pablo, this is the first for us.
31:18Schilling and Zuniga arrive in New York City, both for the first time.
31:23Sergeant Schilling is going to talk to the suspect tomorrow.
31:26I'd like to just kind of touch base with him, let him know, you know, that we are investigating it.
31:33You know, there's obviously two sides to every story.
31:35And right now, you know, we don't really have either side.
31:38We just have the physical evidence to it.
31:40He got booked into Queen Central Booking and then after that, he ended up getting transferred to Rikers Island.
31:45You hear about it in movies, probably never thought you were going to be getting to go there.
31:52It's all downhill from here, Pablo.
31:56You peaked. You peaked way too early.
31:58Yeah.
32:00So this is my first time in New York City.
32:05And it's one of those places I think is kind of like a bucket list place for a lot of
32:09people.
32:10Detective White, who's our local tour guide,
32:12he gave me enough to do to fill up a week or two, but we don't have that much time.
32:17So if we get the opportunity, I'd love to see the World Trade Center.
32:20It's kind of the one thing that's really on my list.
32:26Two hours later, while they wait to talk to Blake.
32:39Older people talk about where they were, like when JFK was assassinated or Elvis Presley died.
32:44But for me, one of the biggest significant events was 9-11.
32:47I was actually in training, driving around Tulsa with a senior police officer and all this stuff's going on in
32:53New York.
32:54And it's just, you know, now, gosh, 23 years later, I'm getting to come here and kind of see it
33:02for the first time.
33:05I'll do a hot dog.
33:07I want a hot dog, too.
33:07I want a hot dog, too.
33:10Okay.
33:10Thank you, sir.
33:13Man, it's good.
33:16There's five buildings I can see right now that are all bigger than any building we have at this.
33:21And that's just this side of the street.
33:23That's wild.
33:25So we're going to go over to Rikers at 11 and holler at Blake.
33:31It's a place that's, I don't know, a bit intimidating.
33:35It's like, you know, it's not Alcatraz, but if you talk about jails that people have heard of.
33:42Yep.
33:43That's one of them.
33:44Yeah.
33:48The next morning.
33:50So we're on our way to Rikers now, and we're going to go meet with Blake and let him know
33:56that we're interested in his side of the story.
33:59And if he decides to talk to us, great. If not, we'll, you know, go with what we have.
34:07Nathan Schilling.
34:08Nice to meet you, brother.
34:08Nice to meet you as well.
34:10NYPD will escort Schilling and Zuniga across the ridge to Rikers Island.
34:20Hey, Blake.
34:21I am circumventing John.
34:24Tulsa, Oklahoma.
34:25This is a partner in Pablo Luzuniga.
34:29We just wanted to let you know that we are interested in what you have to say.
34:34And I'd love to hear your side of the story.
34:51Welcome to the lawyer.
34:53Okay.
34:54Good.
34:57Do you have any questions for me about anything at this point?
35:01I don't know.
35:02All right.
35:06You know, it's a little anticlimactic.
35:09He immediately said, I want my attorney.
35:12But he starts pointing at his face, at the cuts on his face.
35:16So he's trying to tell me something without telling me something.
35:19But ultimately, you know, he chose not to tell us.
35:23Unfortunately for him, there's a mountain of evidence against him.
35:26So whether he talks or not, it's going to be a hard case to beat.
35:34Two hours later.
35:35Is that everything up in the conference room?
35:37All right.
35:38Schilling and Zuniga meet with Port Authority detective Michael McDaniels to collect Blake's belongings.
35:44Were you actually on the plane when he got arrested or?
35:46Yeah, yeah.
35:47Oh, nice.
35:47Did you think he was surprised or shocked or?
35:51I wouldn't say he was really surprised.
35:53He kept his head down, didn't really talk.
35:56He was very cooperative.
35:57At one point, I don't remember the exact wording, but somehow he uttered, he stabbed me.
36:06There was another interaction with him when we were in the cells.
36:09He said, detective, I said, I have a question.
36:10I said, sure.
36:11He said, did he die?
36:14I hear a guy saying, I have a warrant for murder.
36:17Did he die?
36:17I said, all I can tell you is that you have a warrant for murder at Tulsa, Oklahoma.
36:23And he said, okay.
36:29So this is the bags.
36:32No, I mean, this is the clothing.
36:35We were asked not to go through it, so they didn't even open.
36:38Okay.
36:38Excellent.
36:39Blake's luggage will be searched for possible evidence back in Tulsa after the team has secured
36:44a warrant.
36:45I think that's everything.
36:47Thanks so much for that.
36:48No problem.
36:52This morning was not quite what we hoped for, but this was a good trip.
36:58I'm glad we came to New York.
36:59It's pretty spectacular.
37:01Great place to visit, but there's no place like home.
37:13One week later.
37:15Blake got brought back on Thursday.
37:17So he is now at the Tulsa County Jail.
37:21I was able to get a search warrant for the bags that Blake had with him on his flight.
37:26In the check bag, ended up finding a kind of a military style like K-Bar knife.
37:34I don't see any blood on it.
37:36I don't know.
37:37There's nothing that gives me reason to believe that this was involved in it.
37:41And also found a tomahawk style axe.
37:46So, you know, again, it doesn't look like it was involved in the actual incident.
37:52But the fact that the witness from the dispensary said that he said he was going to go axe somebody,
37:57it could play a role in the investigation.
38:00I have some DVR footage I've also been able to review.
38:04The cyber crimes unit was able to access Chris's surveillance system and sent chilling several clips of Blake inside the
38:11house at the time of the murder.
38:14So he pulls into the driveway.
38:17Twelve minutes after leaving the marijuana dispensary, Blake arrives at Chris's home.
38:23For whatever reason, it doesn't pick up the initial him walking in the house.
38:28This is literally two minutes after he pulled into the driveway.
38:35It would appear that he's already had an altercation with the victim.
38:39And he ended up back outside somehow.
38:45He's coming back in the front door and he's already bloody.
38:50Then he pulls the knife out and goes back to where our victim was found.
38:55You can see him over here a little bit.
39:01It's almost like he's talking to him.
39:14It would appear that Blake took a shower after.
39:18You know, we definitely have self-defense cases.
39:21You know, you have people get into a fight and someone pulls out a knife and stab someone once, twice,
39:26three times in quick succession to get away.
39:30And then that person dies.
39:32You know, that's a little bit understandable.
39:35But to stab someone at least 71 times, numerous stab wounds to the chest, to the back, to the back
39:44of the head, that's not consistent with a self-defense claim.
39:48I think in this case, there's no question that Blake was going to kill Chris.
39:54He's saying that before it happens.
39:57So he has lost pretty much any self-defense claim.
40:01He's going over there with the intent to stab him.
40:03And I think the evidence would support that.
40:26And I think the evidence would support that.
40:36I think the evidence would support that.
40:37Eight months after Chris was killed, his family gathers to remember him.
40:43We had some good times with Uncle Chris.
40:46We miss him, don't we?
40:48Yes, we do.
40:49He was funny, wasn't he?
40:51Yes.
40:53Chris was just a real kidder.
40:56He loved to joke.
40:57He loved to laugh.
40:58He worked on his cars.
40:59He kept an immaculate yard.
41:01He was always meticulous about everything, whether it was artwork or decorating.
41:07He always liked to improve things.
41:11He just had a soft spot, too.
41:14A soft hard.
41:17And it's just unfortunate, you know, that he got hooked up with Blake.
41:23He just wanted to use Chris.
41:25Chris was loving.
41:27I think at the beginning, it was a boyfriend-boyfriend relationship.
41:32But later on, I think it became, I'm trying to nurture him.
41:37He came from a bad home, you know, and I can make it better kind of thing, and I can
41:42help him.
41:43And, you know, he, I mean, for a long time, he just took advantage of my brother.
41:49I mean, we all worried Blake would do something.
41:53I kept trying to get Chris to kick him out.
41:57And Chris kept telling me, he says, he'll heal himself.
42:00And I said, that's not your problem.
42:02Your problem is letting him stay there.
42:04You need to get him out of that house.
42:07Yeah, I'm sorry I couldn't protect him.
42:09I'm sorry I couldn't change things for him.
42:13It was just very sad.
42:15And, um, he didn't deserve, I mean, nobody would deserve that.
42:18But my brother didn't deserve it from just trying to help somebody.
42:26I wish we could turn back time.
42:28But you can't.
42:32I just don't want him to be forgotten.
42:34I don't want my brother to be forgotten.
42:36He wasa...
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