00:00But Spain has been the most vocal European opponent to the war.
00:04But why are NATO allies turning their back on the Iran war and pushing back on Trump's demands?
00:14The specific example of Spain is one where I think many things come together.
00:19Spain is probably the most left government of all of those we have in Europe right now.
00:25And Trump's MAGA is obviously a right of center, very much right of center.
00:29So there's clashes on what the cultural civilizational aspect, when you saw J.D. Vance talking about Europe's civilizational corner,
00:36immigration.
00:37Obviously, they're pushing a lot, very hard back against immigration in the U.S.
00:42And they encourage European governments to do the same. And the Spanish are the furthest away.
00:46There's other things. Spain, as a Spanish-speaking country, obviously, with Venezuela and Cuba had maybe not close relationships, but
00:53passable relationships.
00:54So it was the furthest away in terms of alignment on Venezuela.
00:57It's also the one who hasn't committed to the spending of 5%.
01:00So there's just many, many, many different political aspects in Spain.
01:04Also, Spain is the most critical one against Israel, which is obviously the ally of the U.S. right now
01:08in this war.
01:09So there's much that comes together. And it includes overflight rights.
01:12It includes the usage of the U.S. base in Rota in Spain, which the U.S. Navy was hoping
01:18to use to resupply, rearm, refuel the ships.
01:22But Spain is merely the tip of the iceberg.
01:24I think there's frustration with many different NATO partners, maybe also France.
01:29I think it's a little bit less because Maloney gets along with Trump.
01:33Italy is not so much in the crossfire now.
01:35Here's the arm as a leftist-center government.
01:37So there's divergence in terms of domestic politics on political alignment.
01:42But on the other hand, there are other governments in Europe and NATO partners, Sweden, Finland, the Baltics, Poland, Romania,
01:50who have stepped up.
01:51And I think just as Marco Rubio said, we will have to see and reevaluate.
01:57I think they will reevaluate on a case-by-case basis how close the relationships are.
02:03And it's not going to be, I hope, it's not going to be a complete break with NATO.
02:07But they will realign where their support goes, where their best weapons agreements will go after this.
02:13And maybe also where they will build new bases or where they will withdraw troops.
02:17But it will shift the construct of NATO.
02:21But I think that the organization in itself is not underfed.
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