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00:06I'm glad you're back man. I'm happy to be back. Thank you, bro. Thanks for this, too. Thanks for doing
00:12it, bro.
00:12Where did you get out officially out of prison? Yeah, January 7th. What's what's the first thing you did?
00:19Oh, the first actual thing I did when I got out was make sure they wasn't gonna make me come
00:24back.
00:25So as soon as they let me out, yeah, I took off my day. Were you like, are you sure?
00:32Like, is this really...
00:33No, I didn't ask no question. No, you just fucking cut the... Yeah, yeah, the door's down. Got the fuck
00:38out of there.
00:46What was the first activity? You just go home and just be in your own bed and see your friend?
00:51No, I think I actually went directly to the studio. I think I went straight to the studio.
00:57Hell yeah. Yeah, like they had like a surprise party for me there. So like my family, the kids and
01:03stuff like that, everybody was there.
01:05That's awesome. What are you most excited for? Like, what's your like day-to-day like now?
01:11Man, I've been in the studio since I came home. Like, every day.
01:16Yeah. I mean, like, literally, it's not a day that I have not been in the studio yet.
01:22So I'm just trying to just, just trying to like, do it. You know what I mean?
01:26Because in my mind, I feel like it's like the last chance. Like, you know what I'm saying?
01:29It's like, all right, bro. Listen, came home at the time. Everybody's like, everybody's showing me a lot of love.
01:35Oh, dude, everyone's, everyone fucking loves you. Anyone I've ever met has only said the most lovely things about you.
01:42And like, also, you came out better than when you went in.
01:47I didn't expect that. I didn't expect that at all.
01:50That must be really scary and like isolating, like when you're going away because you're like, people will forget.
01:54Yeah. But like, no one, no one forgot. Everyone stopped.
01:57But the thing with me, it was like more so like, all right, people were kind of already forgetting before
02:04I went in.
02:05Right.
02:06So it was like, eh, you know, I was like, oh man, I got to go away for a while.
02:11Definitely, nobody's not going to ever remember me again. Like, you know what I mean?
02:15So like when I came home and it was just, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like, you
02:20know what I mean?
02:20Like it was the, and it was, I think we did like one little interview and I was like, yeah,
02:26I just want to make it feel like 2016 again.
02:28And then like, 2016 trend just started.
02:322016 is bigger than 2026 right now.
02:34Yeah.
02:34It's the hottest shit ever.
02:35So I'm just like, it just feels good, man.
02:38But like, yeah, like the day to day, I just, I kick it with the kids and go to the
02:44studio and then I come home.
02:48Also, you're jacked as shit. You're keeping up with that. You got to keep it up.
02:51It's fucking awesome.
02:52How good does it feel to be fucking just brolic, man?
02:55Oh man, I like the comments.
02:57Yeah, like damn.
03:00Honestly, I like the discipline more than anything though.
03:02Right.
03:03Like, you know what I mean? To like actually get there.
03:05I respect all the people that like work out now because that shit is not easy.
03:09It's not, especially if you're doing it naturally.
03:11Like I gave up a lot before. I just was like, no, let's just do it.
03:14Right.
03:14But you got like, so this is the thing about prison, right? These guys been working out forever.
03:19Right.
03:20Right.
03:20Like, so like your first workout with them is like, they want to do everything.
03:23Right.
03:24I'm like, bro, it's day one. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's do some like light shit first.
03:29Like, you know what I'm saying? Like the first, I think my first workout was push-ups, pull-ups, dips,
03:34squats,
03:35and lunges, crab walks, and some other shit. Like, I don't think I made it to part two.
03:40I'd be out for a month.
03:42Yeah. I didn't make it to part two.
03:43Oh, y'all. Oh, they just called the move. I got to go back to the, I'll be right back.
03:47Yeah. Nobody saw me for like two months.
03:49When you got there, what was the like, were you like, oh man, were you like, I hope people recognize
03:54me?
03:55Or like, I-
03:55Hell no, man.
03:57I used to tell like the, like, you know, when you go to jail, you meet people, you get cool
04:01people.
04:02You know what I'm saying? Like, and I used to tell them like, bro, y'all lucky. Like, you know
04:05what I'm saying?
04:06You get to jail, you get to go to jail regularly.
04:08Right.
04:08Ain't nobody worried about what you doing. Like, me, it's like, everybody knew where I was going before I got
04:13there.
04:14Right.
04:14So it's like, when I got there, oh, he's here, he's here, he's here. Like, what the fuck?
04:18Even like the CO's.
04:20Right.
04:21Like, they try to act like they don't know who I am. Then like, they're like, Fetty Wap.
04:26Fetty Wap?
04:27Bro, you know I'm fucking Fetty Wap.
04:28Right, yeah. It's very clearly.
04:31Yeah, you know what I'm saying? There's not another inmate here with an eyeball.
04:34You were very clearly you. How quickly did you like, obviously, I feel like you're an easy guy to make
04:39friends with. Did you, was it like from day one?
04:41You got like, two different type of people in prison.
04:44Right.
04:44You got the nosy people, then you got the people that kind of like shy away. They don't really care.
04:51Basically, they did it a lot of time.
04:53Right.
04:53So they seen a few faces.
04:55Right, they live there.
04:56Yeah.
04:56Right, they're not like visiting.
04:57Yeah, pretty much.
04:58Right.
04:59You know what I'm saying?
04:59So it's like, those are the guys that I kind of like lean to like, like, yo, how was like,
05:08how did you adjust to this shit?
05:09Like, you know what I'm saying? To be here for 20 years or 30 years, like, you just seem so
05:14regular. Like, you know what I'm saying?
05:15And like, they kind of give you, they kind of give you like, the game to the, to the yard,
05:22in a sense. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, stay away from these type of dudes. Stay away
05:26from these type of dudes. You know what I mean? Because like, in prison, there's a prison. Yeah. A lot
05:31of people don't know that.
05:31What do you mean by that?
05:33So, well, in the federal prison, it's called The Shoe.
05:36Okay.
05:37But basically like solitary confinement.
05:39And that's when you're just alone in like a fucking room this big?
05:41Nah.
05:43It's not like TV.
05:44It's not like a movie.
05:44Nah, it's not like that.
05:45No.
05:46And the only time I ever saw-
05:47It is actually small though.
05:48Right.
05:49It is actually small.
05:50So it's like, I mean, it's literally like, like that. Like, when you get out of The Shoe, it's like
05:56you coming out of jail.
05:58Right.
05:58It's like, oh my gosh, I've been in The Shoe, I'm back.
06:01You know what I mean?
06:03Back to regular life.
06:04Yeah.
06:04What we cooking.
06:05Like, you know what I mean?
06:06I watch some of these shows and people make crazy shit.
06:09Yeah.
06:09They'll figure out how to make an enchilada.
06:11Like, did you have like a sort of thing that you would make that-
06:15Hell yeah.
06:15My favorite shit was fried rice.
06:17Right.
06:18It's a long ass process to make this shit.
06:21Cause everything come back.
06:22So you gotta like put it into like a garbage bag and then put a soda can in there, like
06:27Pepsi.
06:27And like smash it.
06:29Yeah.
06:29That's fucking crazy.
06:30It's crazy bro.
06:31Like, but like eating wise, I don't know, I fucking eat everything.
06:37I'm not gonna lie.
06:38Well, you put on so much muscle.
06:40Yeah, bro.
06:41I ate everything, bro.
06:42Like I was, I was fucking it up in there.
06:46Hell yeah.
06:47My go-to, my go-to is rice and tuna.
06:50Yeah.
06:51Tuna's good for protein and for growth.
06:52Yeah.
06:52Rice and tuna, I might add like a macro in there or something like that.
06:56And yeah, that's my shit.
06:57I'm so curious about when you blew up.
07:00So I was just about to get, I think I just got SNL and when Trap Queen came out, it
07:08was so fucking crazy.
07:10You had, you owned that whole year.
07:13It was like that or it was 679.
07:16It was actually my birthday.
07:18Oh, 679?
07:19Yeah.
07:19I made it on my birthday.
07:20June 7th.
07:21Yeah, June 7th.
07:22I feel, I mean, I could be wrong cause like I'm not you, but it felt like it happened so
07:26fast.
07:27But like overnight it was like, this is the fucking dude.
07:29You had three or four songs.
07:31Yeah.
07:32On the radio at the same time, all top 10, perhaps number one hits.
07:36Like, what is, what is it like?
07:38Where were you at in that stage of your life?
07:41And were you like, what the fuck is going on?
07:44Like you have fucking LeBron singing My Way.
07:47Yeah, that shit was crazy.
07:48LeBron working out, singing My Way.
07:49So how, how did that happen?
07:52And like, what was the overnight?
07:54I mean, see, well prior to that shit, bro.
07:56I mean, we was outside every day, literally selling CDs and out the trunk of the car.
08:06We driving all the way to Atlanta, we coming back.
08:09So it was like, that part of it kind of moved quick like throughout the year.
08:14But the first part, it was like, bro, I was getting blocked every day on Instagram.
08:20Like I would post Trap Queen so much that people were like, bro, I'm tired of seeing this shit on
08:25my timeline.
08:25Right.
08:26You know what I mean?
08:27And it was like, when it happened, it was like, all right, here we go.
08:31You know what I'm saying?
08:31Here we go.
08:32So the first, my first phone call was from Trey Songz.
08:35A lot of people don't know that.
08:37Yeah, Trey Songz called me first, Madison Square Garden.
08:40That was like the first time I ever performed in front of like that type of crowd.
08:45It was just like, pull up?
08:46Yeah.
08:46That's sick.
08:47And then it was like, right after him, it was Kanye West.
08:51I had like, Jay-Z and Beyonce was on the crowd rocking.
08:54I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
08:55What?
08:56You know what I mean?
08:56Yeah, bro.
08:57That's crazy, bro.
08:58That's crazy.
08:59That's wild.
09:00And then from there, it was just, like that shit just kind of went crazy after that.
09:06What was like the first thing that you bought when you fucking, I have a funny one.
09:12Cause I'm from Staten Island.
09:14No one in my family's in like the business or anything like that.
09:18I'm from Patterson, bro.
09:18From Patterson, New Jersey.
09:20Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:20It's not a-
09:21It's only like five, I think five famous people from my city.
09:25Same.
09:25For me.
09:26Hurricane Carter, Tim Thomas, Victor Cruz.
09:32It's me.
09:33Oh, it's like a football player, but I forgot his name.
09:35But for me, it's the same.
09:37For me, it's me, Wu-Tang Clan, and the cast of the Jersey Shore.
09:41Oh my God.
09:42That's another shit I get asked all day in prison.
09:44What?
09:44Oh, if you were-
09:45What part of Jersey are they from?
09:47No, they're not, no, no.
09:48No, Patterson and the Jersey Shore are very different.
09:52Hell yeah.
09:52Yeah.
09:53That shit is different.
09:53That's a real tough place to grow up.
09:57So what was your first, like, fuck this.
09:59I always wanted this.
10:00Like, I'm gonna get this.
10:00I brought my mama house.
10:02Fuck yeah.
10:03Yeah.
10:03That was my first purchase.
10:04My first purchase, having a couple dollars, I brought my mama house.
10:08I did the same thing.
10:09I bought a house with my mom.
10:12Did not know, like, it got to the point, I didn't know how money worked, that I lived in the
10:18basement.
10:19Yo, bro, the crazy thing is, right, so the way we grew up, we grew up like in an apartment.
10:24Right.
10:24So, like, we never had this much space before.
10:28Yeah.
10:28So I think the first night we all stayed in this house, we all stayed in the living room.
10:32Like, it was crazy.
10:34This shit is huge.
10:35Yeah.
10:35It was like, I'm in the room, I'm here and shit.
10:37Nah, fuck this.
10:38I gotta go.
10:38Like, I'm not.
10:40Because we was like, all the way in Gwinnett County.
10:42Like, I moved my mom and them to Georgia.
10:44Right.
10:45I'm talking about, like, bro, it's quiet as fuck out here.
10:48Land.
10:49Yeah, you know what I mean?
10:50Land is crazy.
10:50Like, we just came from Patterson.
10:52You wake up in the morning, boom, doo, doo, doo, doo.
10:55Like, all right, you know what I'm saying?
10:56You go outside, there's a thousand people walking around.
10:58Right.
10:59So you go in the backyard, you're seeing shit running, what the fuck is that?
11:03Like, we close this door.
11:04You know what I'm saying?
11:05Animals and shit, we don't got that.
11:06We got squirrels, cats, dogs, and pigeons and shit.
11:09Yeah, remember the first time you saw a deer?
11:11Yeah.
11:11You're like, what the fuck is that?
11:13Oh, and I just got my GED.
11:15You did?
11:16Yeah.
11:16I don't know what made me say that, but...
11:18When you were away?
11:19Yeah, in prison.
11:19That's amazing.
11:20Congrats.
11:21They gave you a plaque?
11:22Yep.
11:23Fuck yeah.
11:24Hell yeah.
11:25Told my mom, like, yeah, it took me 30-something years, but...
11:28But I did it.
11:29It's done.
11:30No, that's huge.
11:30I think we all dream of having, like, a plaque that says, like, you did it.
11:34Yeah, you know what I mean?
11:36Put that right next to your platinum plaques.
11:38Hell yeah.
11:39Yeah.
11:39Like, I didn't want to do this shit before.
11:42Well, you know what I mean?
11:42Just do it now, just in case my sons get the idea.
11:45Like, I don't know.
11:45Daddy didn't fucking graduate.
11:46I don't want to graduate.
11:47Fuck that.
11:48You know what I mean?
11:49Yeah, so I got my GED.
11:51That's amazing, dude.
11:52Yeah, yeah.
11:52Congrats.
11:52That's like a huge fucking deal.
11:54All right.
11:54They took, like, little graduation pictures, but I didn't do it.
11:59Wait, what do graduation pictures in prison look like?
12:01It's very weird.
12:03It's weird?
12:03Yeah.
12:04But, like, all right, smile.
12:05Like, I'm in prison.
12:05I'm fucking police like this.
12:08And they put, like, a cap and gown on you and shit.
12:11I'm sorry, dude.
12:12This is not how I envisioned my graduation going.
12:15You know what I'm saying?
12:16So I'm like, yeah, nah, I'm good.
12:18I'm sorry, dude.
12:19That's really funny to picture, dude.
12:21Yeah, bro.
12:22It's just, like, you're so sad and fucking...
12:24And you know what else is fucked up about prison, bro?
12:26They make us do everything.
12:28Like cleaning and all that shit?
12:29Yeah, the prisoners are the workers.
12:33Like, they have programs there.
12:34So you got, like, CDL training.
12:38You got, like, automotive training.
12:42Right.
12:43HVAC.
12:43They got all that shit there.
12:44And they got, like, maintenance shit.
12:49Like, they come fix the toilets and all that type of shit.
12:52Right.
12:52And they make you learn how to do that so you can do it in jail?
12:53The inmates do it, yeah.
12:55What the fuck?
12:55Like, so you got to put, like, a work order.
12:57Like, so let's say you're in the cell, your toilet fucked up.
12:59Like, you got to put in a work order.
13:01Like, yo, we need...
13:01Then the inmates come.
13:02Yo, bro, we about to come.
13:04Like, yeah.
13:06Dude, that's so fucking...
13:07That's fucked up.
13:08Yeah, it's crazy.
13:09Like, you come to jail.
13:10And then they pay you, like, two cents an hour or some shit.
13:13What?
13:14Yeah.
13:16Did you have, like, a cellmate?
13:18Yeah.
13:18You get, like, a...
13:19All right, so, like, it's, like, a bunk bed.
13:21Right.
13:22And then...
13:22Let me see how I can picture this.
13:24So you walk in the cell.
13:25Right here is a toilet.
13:27It's, like, a toilet and, like, a little mirror thing right next to it.
13:30Well, on top of the toilet, it's, like, the sink.
13:32So, like...
13:33Oh, another thing is you never brush your teeth and spit in the sink.
13:38You might get stabbed.
13:39Why?
13:40Why?
13:41I don't know.
13:42So what do you do with it?
13:43You spit in the toilet.
13:44Okay.
13:45Was that, like, a rule just when you got there?
13:46They told you, like, hey, don't...
13:48No.
13:48Yeah, don't spit in the sink.
13:49Brush your teeth spitting to him.
13:51And did you confirm this with other people?
13:52Because that guy could have been fucking with you.
13:54No, it's definitely a rule.
13:56I'd be so pissed if, like, I was spreading that.
13:58And then I just found out, like, Johnny was fucking with me.
14:02Oh, then you have, like, nailers and standers.
14:04Right.
14:04So, like, nailers is, like, the guys that's been in prison for a long time.
14:08Like, yo, when you piss, nail.
14:11Really?
14:12Yeah, it's weird.
14:13That's weird as fuck.
14:14Yeah.
14:15Kneel?
14:16Yeah.
14:17So I always try to...
14:18You piss on the floor.
14:19No, that's why you don't stand.
14:22Right.
14:23Yeah.
14:24So you kneel, make sure you get it all in the fucking toilet.
14:27Oh, because of the spray.
14:28Yeah.
14:29But why...
14:29Did you figure out why you can't spit in the sink?
14:32Is it like a just like...
14:33I just can't do it.
14:34Right.
14:35Don't ask questions.
14:36Yeah, the rules, okay.
14:37Yeah, I'd be...
14:38I'd get beat up.
14:39I'd be like, um, why do we do this?
14:41Um, excuse me, fellers.
14:43Uh, gang.
14:45Uh...
14:45Yeah.
14:45Why do we have to spit in the toilet?
14:49Um...
14:49This is crazy, man.
14:50You know, the worst part about jail is after you take a shower.
14:53Why?
14:53You take a shower, you put on your feet, you're like, ah, shit, I'm not about to go nowhere.
14:57Right.
14:57For a while.
15:00You get like...
15:01Bro, we get like...
15:02Yeah, because usually shower to go do something.
15:04Go to the club or go to work.
15:05After the workout and shit.
15:06Yeah, you're just like, I'm about to sit next to a toilet with fucking toothpaste in it.
15:10Yeah.
15:11That sucks.
15:12This is the end of the day.
15:13How good did that first shower home feel?
15:16Oh, man.
15:17I had to...
15:17I finally didn't have to put in my shower shoes.
15:19How fast did you jerk off when you got out?
15:22Immediately.
15:22Oh, right?
15:23Yeah.
15:23Just fucking...
15:24Immediately.
15:25How does that work?
15:27Because, like, I imagine you have to...
15:28I would be like, look, I know we're...
15:31Oh, what's the cellar?
15:31I would have to masturbate.
15:32Yeah.
15:33Oh, just tell him.
15:33Like, hey, bro.
15:34Go for a walk.
15:35Headphones.
15:36Right?
15:36Headphones?
15:37Yeah.
15:37Fuck yeah.
15:38Yeah, put your headphones on live.
15:39That's a cool roommate.
15:40A cool roommate who could, like, sense it and he's just like, I got this.
15:43Yeah.
15:43Or, like, if you like to, like, jerk off in the daytime.
15:48Right.
15:49Just like, yo, put the...
15:50So, like, alright, it's this rule.
15:52Like, you put your tissue in the door.
15:54So, when you put, like, a tissue hanging out the door, that means you're shitting.
15:56Okay.
15:57You know what I'm saying?
15:58So, you put the blocker up, block the window.
16:00Like, even the COs know, alright, tissue in the door, you're shitting.
16:03Oh.
16:03You got some COs that kind of...
16:04I don't know.
16:05They weird.
16:06Yeah.
16:07I imagine it's a weird...
16:09Yeah, they might want to open the door.
16:10What the fuck are you doing?
16:11Like, you know I'm jerking off in here.
16:13Yeah, you know what I mean?
16:14So, then you got those.
16:15But if you're like a nighttime guy, yeah, headphones.
16:20Yeah.
16:20Yeah, I feel like that's the first thing I would talk about with my cellmate.
16:24I'd be like, alright, how are we jerking off?
16:28Perhaps we haven't met.
16:29I'm Pete Davidson.
16:31That's fucking wild.
16:33Yeah, man.
16:33Well, I'm so happy that you got to jerk off.
16:36Peacefully.
16:36Yeah, peacefully.
16:37Yeah.
16:38Some things we really take for granted.
16:40Yeah, for sure.
16:41Like, just masturbating and spitting in the sink.
16:43Yeah.
16:44Yeah.
16:45Like, seriously.
16:46Yeah.
16:46Well, I'm never going to brush my teeth the same.
16:48That's for sure.
16:49Bro, like even now, when I brush my teeth, I...
16:52Oh, yeah, I'm home.
16:52You have PTSD?
16:53Yeah.
16:54Oh, shit.
16:54It's like a habit.
16:55You kind of like...
16:56Bro, you get institutionalized.
16:58Yeah.
16:58You don't even notice it.
16:59Like, oh, I had like my first little host at home, right?
17:02And like, so for the last four years, I have not been clustered.
17:08Right.
17:08You know what I mean?
17:09Like, so in prison, you got...
17:10We got the shits like your cars.
17:13We call it cars.
17:14Right.
17:14Like, where you from?
17:15Who you hang with?
17:17I mean, you gangbanging?
17:18All right.
17:19Your gang's over there.
17:20This who you with.
17:21Right.
17:21You're not gangbanging.
17:22This your city.
17:23This who you with.
17:24Is that a sign like first day?
17:26Yeah.
17:26Okay.
17:27Where you from?
17:28Oh, well, y'all sit over here.
17:29We got like our own tables and shit and everything.
17:32Cool.
17:33So it's like, all right, for four years, I've been like at this jail.
17:39This is what we do.
17:40You chill with the same people every day.
17:43It's kind of like almost...
17:45All right, when you drop security level, that's when you kind of start to,
17:49oh, yeah, I'm gonna chill with this dude.
17:51Like, you know what I'm saying?
17:51Right.
17:51It's a little more relaxed because people are more well-behaved.
17:54Like, you still like, you cool like in a unit.
17:57So like in a unit or the tier, whatever you want to call it,
18:01everybody kind of like chill with each other.
18:03But once we walk out...
18:05How's like the pulse on like what's going on in the world while you're in there?
18:09Like, you're still getting...
18:11We got like tablets.
18:12Every like, every month or two, they put like movies up there.
18:16But it's like they put weird shit.
18:18So you were like...
18:19It's like airplane movies?
18:20No, bro.
18:21Like, so check this shit out, right?
18:23You were like a bunch of killers and shit like that.
18:26And then they put like Frozen 2 on the top.
18:30You know what I mean?
18:31Like, I swear, bro.
18:35And there's one movie they put up there.
18:37It's called like Elements or something like that.
18:39Oh, like Pixar movie?
18:41Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
18:41I'll watch it a few times.
18:43Pixar movies are good.
18:44There's no shame in that.
18:45It's just weird that those are the only options.
18:47Yeah, but you gotta like watch it by yourself.
18:49Yeah.
18:49You know what I mean?
18:50Like, what you watching?
18:52You definitely have ways to stay in contact.
18:55Right.
18:56Yeah.
18:56Right.
18:57Yeah.
18:58But did they...
18:58There's no like...
19:00There's no like movie night like where you all vote and pick like a...
19:04This is just my prison fantasy.
19:06Where like I make a bunch of friends and then we all watch a bunch of Jason Statham movies together.
19:12Nah.
19:12There's none of that?
19:13No.
19:13There's no TVs or any shit like that?
19:15You have selective TVs.
19:17A black TV.
19:19Okay.
19:19You got a white TV.
19:21You got a Mexican TV.
19:22That makes sense.
19:23And then you have two TVs that never change.
19:25Sports TV, news TV.
19:28Okay.
19:28Right?
19:29You do not touch those TVs.
19:31Right.
19:32Like...
19:33Like no matter what.
19:34No matter what.
19:35That's what that plays.
19:36If you turn off the sports, there's a high percent chance that you're getting stabbed.
19:42Damn.
19:44It's very...
19:44It's very, very high percent.
19:47Are you allowed to like look at like the white TV?
19:49I wouldn't say allowed.
19:52But...
19:54I don't know.
19:55You just don't do it.
19:56Right.
19:57You know what I'm saying?
19:57It's not even worth like...
19:58It's just like...
19:59It's like if you stand like in the background and they watching it, it's cool.
20:03Like you know what I mean?
20:04But you know, like I said, like you have certain levels of prison where things are more relaxed.
20:10Right.
20:11You know what I'm saying?
20:12So like when you go like to a low for instance.
20:14When you go to a low, it's cool.
20:16Like you know what I'm saying?
20:17Like it's cool.
20:18Everybody kind of...
20:19It's like a dorm room.
20:20There's no more set.
20:21There's no more...
20:21Is that people that have either earned good behavior and they are not like a risk?
20:26Or it's people that are almost out?
20:28Right?
20:28Both.
20:29Right.
20:29Both.
20:30Okay.
20:30Because you have to have under a certain amount of time to even drop from these levels.
20:35Okay.
20:36Yeah.
20:36So it's like that.
20:37But for the most part...
20:38I don't know.
20:39I was cool with everybody.
20:40Yeah.
20:41Yeah.
20:41I was cool with everybody.
20:42Yeah.
20:42Imagine you're easy to get along with.
20:44Yeah.
20:44That's like one thing in general.
20:46Like you get like...
20:47Like if someone does something disrespectful...
20:49Immediately.
20:50...you have to defend yourself.
20:51Immediately.
20:51Otherwise they're just like, we could do that.
20:53Yeah.
20:53They're gonna come take your shit.
20:55Fuck.
20:55You know what happens, bro?
20:57Like...
20:58A lot of people...
21:00You know what?
21:00A lot of people have the misconception of prison.
21:03Like, oh, if you have money, you'll be okay.
21:05No.
21:05If you have money, you're gonna get distorted.
21:07Right.
21:08You know what I'm saying?
21:08Everyone's just gonna...
21:09Yeah.
21:10You gotta get extorted.
21:11Yeah.
21:11Like, you wanna live comfortable?
21:12Okay.
21:13Well, when a store come around, all my five guys right here, you about to put this money
21:18on their books.
21:19You know what I'm saying?
21:20It's like, once you stand your ground, you kinda...
21:23You're good.
21:23What's the most expensive thing in commissary?
21:26Like a dollar bottles of jerkin lotion?
21:29I had a lot of those.
21:31I had a whole lot of those.
21:32Oh, yeah.
21:33Ran through them shits.
21:34Uh, those shits, $5.19.
21:38And then you got like...
21:39We get like packs, like, uh...
21:42Like, uh, chicken packs.
21:43It's like already cooked kind of thing.
21:45Right.
21:45I think I'm just like...
21:48$8 a pack or some shit.
21:50Right, and they pay you two cents a day.
21:52Yeah.
21:52So, if you don't have any money at all, you have to find it.
21:56Otherwise, you just starve?
21:57But people have like hustlers, bro.
21:58I know somebody that made $50,000 from washing clothes.
22:01In jail?
22:02Yeah.
22:03Hell yeah.
22:04What?
22:05So, like, uh...
22:07Like, how long?
22:09Or just like while they were there in their time?
22:11Yeah, so...
22:14When you come in, you meet everybody.
22:16Yo, that's the laundry man.
22:19That's the tailor man.
22:20This guy, such and such.
22:22You know what I mean?
22:22So, you're like,
22:23ah, yo, bro, how much you charge to wash clothes?
22:26Or just give me...
22:27Just give me $20 a month or some shit like that.
22:30You know what I'm saying?
22:31Oh, wow.
22:31Or just if you want to pay up front,
22:33just give me whatever it costs for the whole time you're here.
22:36Oh, wow.
22:36You know what I mean?
22:37So, it's 60 people on the tier.
22:40He washes 60 people's clothes.
22:4260 times, 20.
22:42Exactly.
22:43What was that?
22:441,200?
22:45So, 1,200 a month?
22:461,200 a month.
22:47That's not a bad hustle at all.
22:49You know what I'm saying?
22:50Yeah.
22:50But one thing before we, like, wind down,
22:54what is one thing that you learned in life
22:56from your own experience that wasn't, like,
23:00wasn't a thing that someone told you
23:02or was, like, you know, trying to guide you on?
23:05Like, what is one thing that you just, like, picked up on your own
23:07that's been, like, super helpful for you?
23:09Patience.
23:11Time and patience.
23:14I felt like when I got all of that money, bro, like,
23:19I was doing things my way.
23:20Like, oh, I don't want to go there.
23:22I'm not coming.
23:23I don't want to do this.
23:24All right.
23:25You want to make me do it?
23:26I'm going to come late.
23:27No, I'm going to do what I want to do on my time.
23:29You know what I'm saying?
23:30But actually, prison, man, like, it opened my mind.
23:38Like, all the things you take for granted,
23:42and you really have to have patience, especially with me,
23:45because, you know, I was, like, I was the go-to.
23:50Like, oh, I know he has something in there.
23:52So every day they raiding my cell.
23:54They trying to find something to fuck me over with.
23:57Right.
23:57You know what I mean?
23:58And over time, you just got to kind of, like,
24:00you know what?
24:01Calm down.
24:01Fuck it.
24:02Like, it is what it is.
24:03You know they coming.
24:04Like, you know what I mean?
24:05And then you meet, like, certain people where they try
24:08to make a name for themselves.
24:10Like, all right.
24:11Nah, I don't fuck so many people up.
24:13Let me just chill, bro.
24:14Like, I know what's about to come with this.
24:16You know what I mean?
24:16Like, if I engage into this conversation nine times out of ten,
24:21either it's going to be a big thing or, and I don't,
24:25in prison, you have to just do it.
24:27Like, all the talking shit is out the window.
24:30You know what I mean?
24:30Right.
24:30So when I came home, it was like, let's take time and fall back.
24:35Right.
24:35I just chill.
24:36Like, I like to see everything now.
24:38Like, you know what I mean?
24:39Reserve.
24:40Yeah.
24:40Like, let me just see all the shit I've been missing.
24:42You know what I mean?
24:43And it's like, it really helped me.
24:45Like, it helps me a lot.
24:46I don't get angry at all.
24:47Like, I don't get mad.
24:48I don't get angry.
24:49I just, I just don't care.
24:51I don't care too much.
24:52You know what I mean?
24:53Like, it's like when you put your feelings so much-
24:55When you're emotional about it.
24:56Like, you know what I mean?
24:57So it's like, for me, it's like, you know what?
24:59Everything is going to happen with time.
25:00But as long as you stay patient enough, it'll be cool.
25:03So like, that was like my biggest thing I learned in my life was patience.
25:06Like, just have, just, just make sure you make time for yourself
25:10and make sure, like with the working out thing.
25:12Right.
25:12Like, in prison you're not doing shit.
25:14Well, if you got a job there or whatever, but once after a certain hour, you know, the
25:19jail shuts down.
25:20You know what I mean?
25:21So you have to do it by a certain time.
25:23Yeah.
25:24So you give yourself an hour a day.
25:26Like, so it's the same thing with me.
25:27Like, all right, now I'm free.
25:29Let's have that same discipline.
25:30Let's have that same patience with yourself.
25:32Like, give myself an hour a day in the gym.
25:34You like the way you look.
25:35Keep it up.
25:36You know what I mean?
25:36Like, give yourself an hour.
25:38Put your phone down.
25:39Turn the TV off and just sit there and read.
25:41I read a lot of books.
25:42A lot of shit that I would have never read in my life.
25:45You know, for years I had to be my manager.
25:47I had to be my road manager.
25:48I had to be the guy that goes and talks to the office and let me, look, I want to
25:52drop
25:53this and we want to do this like this.
25:54And then I had to go to the studio and read that.
25:56Take care of all your friends.
25:57You know what I'm saying?
25:57Like, family.
25:58But this time it's, I'm not, no.
26:00Right.
26:01Take care of you.
26:01You know what I mean?
26:02Yeah.
26:02You don't take care, it's cliche and like kind of corny to say, but like if you don't
26:06take care of you, you can't.
26:07You can't take care of nobody.
26:07Yeah.
26:08Yeah.
26:08You know what I mean?
26:09And then it's like, even like with my kids, bro.
26:11Like, it's like I spent so much time taking care of the guys that I kind of took away from
26:17the kids.
26:18Right.
26:18You know, well not kind of, I did.
26:20You know what I mean?
26:21Like, and oh, another thing I do is I write letters to myself.
26:24Like, I write letters to like my younger self and I write letters to my older self.
26:29Like, I write letters to the present, like to the present me.
26:31Like, just tell your truth through that letter.
26:34Like, all right, well I could have did this for my daughter.
26:37I could have did this for my son.
26:38I could have did this differently.
26:39I could have did that differently.
26:41Read it a few times, see how it make you feel.
26:43Like, you know what I'm saying?
26:44Sometimes you might, damn, like I fucked up.
26:46All right, we trash it.
26:47Let's do better.
26:48Right.
26:49You know what I'm saying?
26:52Like, I'm clear minded.
26:56I feel good.
26:57Like, I just feel better.
26:59Like, I don't know how to explain that shit, but.
27:01Your brain is like your currency.
27:02It's the most important.
27:04Exactly.
27:04You know, having, feeling, being able to self-regulate yourself.
27:07And like, it also helps with like that emotional shit and being patient.
27:10For sure, man.
27:11I'm glad you got that, bro.
27:12That's awesome.
27:12Yeah, bro.
27:13Yeah, yeah.
27:13I'm so fucking happy for you.
27:15And I know the world is too.
27:16Likewise.
27:17I'm so excited to see what, you know, the new Arrow WAP is going to be.
27:21Me too.
27:22Hell yeah.
27:22I'm excited to see it too.
27:24Thank you for taking the time.
27:25Thanks for having me.
27:26Myarmed Woods.
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