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00:23¡Suscríbete al canal!
00:33You know, no one was looking side to side to see how everyone was.
00:39We were just going forwards.
00:44You know, we were never a band that sat there in each other's rooms and talked about how we were
00:50feeling.
00:51There was never any of that talk.
00:54Within the band, we didn't really ask those questions.
01:00I don't think any of us were capable of those kind of conversations.
01:09Awesome. Here they are tonight. It's Gary followed by Robbie and his booze hell.
01:14You just asked me mum if she likes my t-shirt.
01:16Your mum won't talk to you anymore now.
01:18I sort of started seeing the change in Robbie.
01:22He was kind of like jumping up and down on the stage of his bulbous eye.
01:29With all this fucking energy.
01:35But he did look like he was on something.
01:39Where are you going, Rob?
01:40I'm going on. Back to the gig.
01:42I'm going on a Suzuki 800.
01:45He just didn't seem to want to be part of Take That anymore.
01:48And he was being more rebellious and more belligerent.
01:52Turn that off if you put on me on.
01:54Just seemed to lose complete interest.
01:56And it frustrated all of us a lot.
01:59I just thought it was someone who didn't give a shit about us.
02:03You know, he just doesn't care.
02:05That's what I put it down to.
02:08I was so depressed.
02:10And I was going back to my hotel.
02:12Down in a bottle of neat vodka.
02:16And I just drink myself into oblivion.
02:22I'd gone.
02:24I'd physically and mentally gone.
02:52I was on bass, Howard's on drums.
03:06Jason guitar, Catherine keys, Rob doing vocals.
03:10We were trying to cross a bit more into the world that Rob wanted to enter.
03:16And then Rob went to Glastonbury.
03:22Because the sort of band that I'm in,
03:24people are looking at me as if to say,
03:26you're not supposed to be here.
03:27It's like I'm a Man United fan in the cup end of Liverpool or something.
03:31You don't expect to see him here, but perhaps next year,
03:33Take That, we'll be headlining Glastonbury.
03:36Rob came back and he was absolutely wasted.
03:38And he went upstairs and I had a bit of a kip.
03:46I think the lack of interest was obvious.
03:49And I think that Gaz and Jay got pretty pissed off about that.
03:58I was 19, 20.
04:01And I was, you know, I was in the middle of being a raging alcoholic.
04:04It was the worst for my alcoholism at that time.
04:08Because I'd wake up and I couldn't start the day or do the day
04:11without probably downing a bottle of vodka.
04:16And then I'd go into these rehearsals the next day that I wasn't fit to do.
04:20Because my body would be full of crap.
04:23And my head would hurt.
04:26And I couldn't take in information at the best of times.
04:32I think it had to come to a meeting.
04:35The guys that, you know, we're doing this big show.
04:37We're putting everything we've got into this.
04:39You need to pick it up.
04:43Something just snapped inside my head.
04:45You know, and I went, well, then I'll leave.
04:49Jason said, well, if you're going to go, just go now then.
04:53I remember just sitting there thinking, what's happening?
04:57I stood up.
04:58Walked across the room and I got to the door.
05:01And I looked back at them and I think, we're thinking, this is it.
05:05And they looked at me.
05:07And then I walked through the door.
05:12And I thought, it'll be back tomorrow.
05:15I've seen this sort of thing before.
05:16It'll be back tomorrow.
05:20I got in the car and asked you at the time.
05:22Paul said, OK, I'll be back on Thursday to come and pick you up.
05:25And Paul, I'm not coming back on Thursday.
05:27All right, Friday then, I'll be at your house at 9.30 in the morning to come pick you up.
05:32I said, Paul, I don't think you understand.
05:34I'm not coming back.
05:37And then I started to cry.
05:45We woke up the next morning and it was some newspaper thing of Robbie had been split from the band.
05:55Kind of a little bit devastating.
05:57You know, you ask yourself loads of questions.
05:59What's going to happen now?
06:00Take that star, Robbie Williams, has announced he's quitting the band.
06:04The teeny band take that.
06:06Robbie Williams has quit, citing too much pressure.
06:09Can they carry on without him?
06:11Happy Robbie!
06:13The message from the fans is clear.
06:15They want Robbie back and them mystified by his departure.
06:19He's been in the band since he was 16.
06:20He hasn't had his childhood.
06:22He's not been allowed to grow on.
06:23Something's happened.
06:25But I don't think we'll find out for quite a while yet.
06:29Really odd couple of days.
06:32Really odd.
06:33And it sounds quite throwaway.
06:36For what happened to be one of the most important things that ever happened to our group.
06:41Him leaving.
06:47I think if we all knew it was going to be that moment, we'd have done it, we'd have all
06:53wanted it to be different after all that time together.
06:59It's just a skinless.
07:01But it was sort of off the cuff and casual and...
07:06These things are never...
07:07They never happen the way you read them.
07:11It's trickier.
07:13It's more complex.
07:19It's another TV heatwave on Steve Wright's People Show!
07:27And here they are.
07:28They're Britain's biggest band.
07:30We were, you know, all so young then.
07:33Talking on television for the first time since the big story this week.
07:36I wasn't in a place where I'd sit down with Gaz and Howard and say, oh, you know, what should
07:43we do about this?
07:44I think the first time we were asked about how do I feel was by somebody on a TV show.
07:50To Mark from Rachel Wilson of Selly Oak, Birmingham.
07:53Do you cry?
07:54And if so, when was the last time?
07:56And...
08:02And...
08:03Yeah, I'm loving that.
08:07The near-hysterical fans were rewarded with an impromptu walkabout by the four remaining members of Take That, while police
08:14struggled to keep control.
08:15It was kind of strange, really.
08:18Look at this!
08:19It's a bit big, isn't it?
08:22Because for me, Rob was like the brother.
08:25I couldn't have imagined the band experience without him.
08:32But, uh, we knew we had three weeks to do a show.
08:36That would be the orchestra there, and then from the back would be 30 piece choirs.
08:40And that was our way through.
08:42You know, we had to learn the show again.
08:44We had to learn it for four instead of for five.
08:48Fuck.
08:49Just got to do it.
08:50Can't cancel the show.
08:54And so we turned the attention to us, to getting our show ready.
09:00Take That kicked off their tour in Manchester at the weekend without Robbie Williams.
09:08Do you know what?
09:09This is our fifth tour together with Take That.
09:12But on this tour, as you can hope and see, there's some and a little bit different.
09:16There's only four of us.
09:21There's only four of us in the back of our mind.
09:21Obviously, in the back of my mind, it was like, start a solo career, be big.
09:24You know, but there was no plan.
09:28The plan was just to numb everything out, because I was in so much pain.
09:33I mean, we get to hear a lot about Robbie's side of things.
09:37Yeah, we do, don't we?
09:40Nigel.
09:41As a manager, he never managed me.
09:44He managed Gary Barlow.
09:47I only wanted him to love me.
09:50And he never did.
09:53For me, it was a sense of relief, because if someone's unhappy in the work, they're best
09:59going to work in somewhere else.
10:01Hi, I'm...
10:02Robbie Williams!
10:04And I'm on the...
10:05The Breakfast!
10:06And when Robbie left the group, he wanted to undo everything Nigel had done.
10:12Let me ask you how you feel about Nigel Morrissey.
10:16After all these years, she had enough of saying things in interviews that weren't true.
10:22So how did you meet?
10:22I mean, are you all friends from school?
10:23No, and it was.
10:24It was a combination of two bands.
10:26We was always told of Nigel, don't ever say, you know, you was put together.
10:31I was working with Gary.
10:32I was working with Alvin Nicole, doing a bit of a dance, rap act kind of thing.
10:36We managed to get the two bands together.
10:38I was thinking, oh, don't ask that fucking question, because I don't want to trip up,
10:40and I don't want to be in trouble with Nigel.
10:42We've always been friends.
10:44And now Robbie wanted to say whatever was on his mind.
10:48I'm doing my own thing.
10:49I'm writing my own stuff.
10:51Shagbirds.
10:54And so, of course, what then happens is that we're sat in this place where, oh, hang on
11:01a minute, that looks quite refreshing, where Rob is.
11:05That looks quite interesting.
11:07And we're still here doing this.
11:19So it was inevitable that we wanted to get out of that world, too.
11:30Everyone was a bit lethargic, weary.
11:34Rob had gone, how long can this last for?
11:38There's a rumour going round that I'll take that, I'm going to split it all up to this
11:44tour.
11:44That rumour is definitely not true.
12:06My man.
12:08Sorry, dude.
12:08I'm just getting this.
12:09Sorry.
12:11The future of pop group Take That is unclear.
12:14There's been much speculation about the future of the band since Robbie Williams left last
12:18year.
12:18The record label have strenuously...
12:19After months of speculation, the news that every Take That fan had been dreading.
12:24Thanks for everybody's support in the last five years.
12:27You've been absolutely fantastic to us.
12:29But unfortunately, the rumours are true.
12:31How Deep Is Your Love is going to be our last single together.
12:35And The Greatest Hits is going to be our last album.
12:39And from today, there's no more.
12:45We'd all taken a holiday for a few weeks.
12:49And in that holiday, Gary and Nigel had spoken.
12:53Gary said, listen, now's the time.
12:54And he gave his reasons.
12:55I want to go solo.
12:57It was me that went into a room and said to everybody, this is what we should do.
13:02And everyone just went, yeah, great.
13:05I remember thinking, thank God.
13:09We'd just had a 14-year-old fan phone in in tears.
13:12What's your message to her?
13:14We're sorry, I suppose.
13:16We always said we'd finish on top.
13:18And it is very good for our careers ahead of us.
13:20So I think we're making the right move.
13:24I was holding on so tight to this group.
13:28I felt a bit of anger.
13:32We were a four-piece and we're still successful.
13:34We sold out a tour.
13:35We had number ones.
13:36It's like, well, why?
13:40On the last tour, Howard said, even though Robby's left,
13:43take that I'd be going to be around for a long time.
13:46You mean you think they'd betrayed you?
13:47Well, yeah.
13:48I feel as though they've lied to us all.
13:50I feel really hurt because it's just a big part of my life and now it's over.
13:54He said to be around for as long as the fans wanted him,
13:56but the fans still want him.
13:57Just quit.
13:59Take That hysteria reaches a new level
14:02as fans collapse in front of their hotel in Germany.
14:05The screaming, which has accompanied the band throughout their career,
14:09is increasing in pitch as Take That prepare to wind up for good.
14:13It wasn't the same.
14:15The sparkle had gone.
14:20It was just starting to turn
14:23and it felt like the exit was the best place to be.
14:27We split up because we needed to, we wanted to.
14:30We're really happy about the decision.
14:32Sad as well because we're going to miss each other and miss the vibe.
14:34And that's how it happened.
14:38¡Gracias!
15:10It's not the last song we're ever going to sing.
15:13I wasn't thinking that way.
15:15I was just...
15:17just going through the motions, really, I guess.
15:19You're in control of your own life now, starting tomorrow morning.
15:22Isn't that a bit frightening?
15:24Tomorrow we all go our separate ways, in a way.
15:27I mean, we'll still see each other, but it is a very sad time
15:29and a little bit of a numb feeling.
15:31Has it been very difficult to grow up under these extreme conditions?
15:34Because it's an important period of your life, from, let's say, 18 to 27.
15:38I've not lost too much of what life's all about.
15:42Hopefully, anyway, I'll know tomorrow.
15:43I'll give you a bell and let you know if I'm struggling.
15:46We're living in a world of fools
15:49Breaking the sky
15:52When they all should let us be
15:57We belong to you and me
16:03It's been a very emotional month for us, really.
16:07Yes.
16:07And today's the last day, the finale.
16:14There wasn't really time for us to sit down and work out,
16:21how do we do this?
16:23It was all happening in real time.
16:26Hysterical fans besieged Amsterdam's top hotel
16:29in a desperate bid to catch a final glimpse of their idols before they split up.
16:37There was something in the air on that last day.
16:44It felt real all of a sudden.
16:48Our world had come to a close.
16:51And I wasn't sure.
16:54It was something that wasn't right.
16:59It hit me the hardest.
17:00Simply because of the fact that I was thinking,
17:02well, what am I going to do now?
17:03I'm only trained at being a pop star.
17:06You know, a bit of paint spraying.
17:09So it hit me quite hard.
17:17I was ready.
17:19I can't wait to tell people that I'm coming home.
17:25The hardest bit was trying to find a way home.
17:36You go home and you're kind of in disbelief.
17:40I feel like I was the only one that didn't grow up.
17:44And everyone else did.
17:47Even though I was the oldest.
17:48How are you feeling?
17:51Everybody watched what was happening and prepared themselves for the end.
17:56Whereas I was in this dream.
17:58I was like, oh, it's going to keep going and going and going and going and going.
18:01We are number one!
18:03You know, because when I was in school, I was a nobody really.
18:07I wasn't very clever.
18:09I didn't go to university.
18:10I never, ever dreamt of being successful.
18:14You've always been around, okay?
18:17I never thought I would be anything.
18:21And I felt like a superhero being up on that stage.
18:34I was almost going towards a depressive state.
18:39And then I decided to go to the Thames.
18:43The state of my mind at that time, I was seriously thinking of jumping in the Thames.
18:50Thinking that I wanted to kill myself.
18:53But I'm just too much of a shitbag to do it.
19:00My immediate plan after the band was to go off to the Lake District.
19:04I took my tent.
19:06I went camping for a couple of weeks.
19:08We're all knackered, exhausted.
19:11I just wanted to have a nice long rest and have a little think.
19:14And after that, I didn't have any plans.
19:18I think for myself, Howard and Mark,
19:20take that was just take that.
19:22It was where we were at now, you know?
19:25I think take that to Gary and Robbie
19:27was always a stepping stone to where they wanted to get to.
19:31I always felt like I spent most of the 90s worrying.
19:36I was a real worrier.
19:39Worried about the band.
19:43Worried about us.
19:44Hey, boys.
19:45Listen, let's do it for real life.
19:47Worrying about the music.
19:50Worrying about the gig.
19:51Are you ready, boys?
19:52We're going to do this interview.
19:53But by the time we decided we would finish in,
19:57I just felt like, oh, all I've got to do is worry about me now.
20:02Just felt like a real weight off my shoulders.
20:05I was keen for a new chapter to start.
20:10At that point, I was on a massive wave of confidence.
20:17So often I just drive out to somewhere like this to get a bit of a break from it all.
20:21And I'm never bored either, being on my own.
20:24I think only boring people get bored.
20:26And this was the biggest my ego's ever been.
20:29I love being sat at the piano.
20:31You know, another way to relax when I come home is to just sit and play.
20:35I mean, you just think the world owes you everything.
20:38When you've been at that height, you just think everything you touch,
20:42everything that moves, turns to triple platinum.
20:45Today sees the release of Gary's first solo single.
20:49Robbie's comes out at the end of the month.
20:50Fans are reserving copies of both singles.
20:53But Gary's in the lead and tipped to be number one.
20:57I would buy both, but I think Gary's better.
21:00This is where the Gary Robbie stuff started.
21:09This week, the World Media Circus was summoned to his press conference.
21:13Robbie could talk about what he's up to next.
21:15Robbie, why are we here?
21:17You don't need to ask me questions.
21:20Robbie was feeding off the press a bit.
21:22He'd become friends with some of the press.
21:24What do you think of Gary's single?
21:26I'd love to say it's not my cup of tea, but it's all right.
21:30In fact, it's awful.
21:34That's when it got nasty, and it was just not needed.
21:40Would you piss on Gary if he was on fire?
21:44Oh, that would be left between me and Gary.
21:46That's the first bit of negativity I felt.
21:50Like, serious negativity that went in the brain negativity.
21:55Robbie, which other X-Take That Band members do you think will succeed?
21:58James, you've got a really good patron decorator, I'm sure.
22:03I don't understand it at all.
22:05I don't understand how anybody can sit there after being so close to people for so long,
22:11and to say the things he does.
22:13I think it's Rob's way of staying famous.
22:16It had all become talking to one another through the press.
22:20What do you think about Gary Barlow?
22:21Because he said something yesterday that wasn't very nice.
22:23He said, Robbie hurt us, and until now we were afraid to say,
22:25but, Robbie, you're a dickhead.
22:27Well, I am.
22:28You know, let's face it.
22:30Robbie is ten times more popular than me.
22:32He always will be, I'm sure.
22:34But let's hear these songs that are easy to write.
22:36I'm dying to hear them.
22:39Do you know, I'm doing a cover version, because I can.
22:42It's more of a statement than a single, to tell you the truth.
22:45The statement is, I'm free now to do whatever I want.
22:48It's very ironic, isn't it, that Gary says he,
22:51and has made no secret of the fact he wants to be the next George Michael,
22:53yet Robbie has chosen a George Michael cupboard.
22:56Everything that Robbie has been doing, really,
22:58has been sort of trying to railroad Gary and kind of shove him off the road.
23:02That's when it became really competitive.
23:08New Solo number one.
23:09Exclusive for Top of the Pups.
23:12Mr. Gary Barlow.
23:14Now my dreams are filled with times when we're together.
23:24Cause what I need from her is forever love.
23:31We were both trying to do the same thing.
23:34And, you know, only one person can win.
23:39Gary went straight at number one.
23:41Robbie, number two.
23:42Do you feel any pressure from that?
23:43I'm number three.
23:46As soon as we finished, we'd take that.
23:50Linda, will you ask me about my solo career?
23:54No, ask me.
23:55What? Ask me about my solo career.
23:57I just pretty much started writing straight away.
24:02And I'd written my songs on my piano at home and I was writing for myself.
24:09Rob lived in St. John's Wood and I was recording at Abbey Road.
24:13So he came to visit a couple of times, which was lovely.
24:17And Howard came and sang on Clementine.
24:26And Jason came to the studio.
24:28And I remember I was so much wanting to impress Jay that I forgot to eat all day and then
24:35fainted.
24:39So, emotionally, we were probably all a little bit.
24:42We didn't have a plan.
24:44Ladies and gentlemen, the future's bright.
24:47The future's Jason Orange!
24:50From the day I left the band, I've been thinking, what shall I do next?
24:54What am I good at?
24:55Look, you're acting now.
24:56I'm in a playground and I want you to see it.
24:59I bought some flyers, everybody.
25:00Oh, that's lovely.
25:02I started having acting lessons, thinking I was going to be an actor.
25:05Look, I want to talk to you.
25:07You'll piss off right now or I'll smash your fucking face through that wall.
25:12Goodnight.
25:13But I didn't like it, so I stopped.
25:18You just start to question life.
25:20When you've been an ex-pop star, when you've not got a job,
25:24there's a lot of time in the day to sit around and think about things.
25:31The truth of the matter was that my album wasn't hitting the numbers.
25:37You have no need to think...
25:40I mean, the album has done very well, I knew it.
25:42But the album didn't do so well on the charts over here, did it?
25:45We've taken that, everything went in at number one, number one, and number one,
25:47and that's what you got used to.
25:49And eventually, I got dropped.
25:57You start to feel very negative about yourself.
26:07Here we are in Cuba, this is the second day of the show.
26:14Nigel looked after me after the band.
26:17Said, right, you're contracted to do a solo career.
26:25And it invigorated me again and made me hungry.
26:32But when you're on your own, you're thinking,
26:35shit, I'm exposed here.
26:43To be honest with you, I didn't have any confidence in what I was doing.
26:49I knew, deep down, it wasn't for me.
26:54You have to believe in yourself 200%
26:57and that you are the dog's bollocks.
26:59And I never did.
27:02The truth is, other than Gary, we were all struggling to do it on our own.
27:07Including Robbie.
27:11And yes, welcome to Robbie Williams!
27:16Let's go straight to line four, I think.
27:18No, it's Nora Carr from Livington.
27:20Hello, Laura, you're through to Robbie. What's your question?
27:22Um, hi, Robbie.
27:23Hi.
27:23I was just wondering what your ideal Christmas present would be?
27:29Um...
27:29Number one.
27:31That would be my ideal Christmas present.
27:33Number one?
27:33Yeah.
27:34What do you think the chances are number one?
27:36Zilch.
27:37Really?
27:38Oh, no.
27:39I'd been in a band that had sold 20 million albums
27:42and I had eight number ones and my album was doing terribly.
27:47Angels was probably my last hope of getting my foot holding on any sort of career.
27:53Go and prepare your voice and get ready with your lovely group.
27:56Your group over there.
27:57My group.
27:57Vagabond.
27:58Beautiful new single.
27:59Beautiful new single.
28:00What I was trying to say.
28:00It's called Angels.
28:01It's Robbie Williams.
28:08I sit and wait.
28:11There's an angel.
28:15Contemplate my fate.
28:17Angels.
28:18One of the songs that I think probably everybody's been singing in this country this year.
28:21So, please welcome Mr. Robbie Williams.
28:26Angels.
28:28It's just everyone loves it.
28:29It's a lovely tune.
28:30It's a brilliant tune.
28:31Everyone loves it straight away.
28:33And there's a rather magnificent Robbie Williams.
28:39It's a great song.
28:41A great song.
28:43What are we doing?
28:44We're loving angels and stars.
28:49And through it, oh, she offers me protection.
28:55Once he had that song, that was it.
28:58Robbie Williams.
29:00It's been played at Hatches, Matches and Dispatches.
29:04Births, weddings and funerals.
29:06And that's great.
29:07As if we just get a still.
29:09My records were sort of going in, yeah, at number one.
29:13But they weren't hanging around for months.
29:16Ticket sales and records have exploded, haven't they?
29:19Yeah.
29:22That must be really hard.
29:25He was just untouchable from that moment.
29:28I remember sat there thinking,
29:31Well, that's it.
29:32I can't catch that.
29:34I mean, how am I going to do that?
29:36And the winner is...
29:38Robbie Williams!
29:40Robbie Williams!
29:41Robbie Williams!
29:41Robbie Williams!
29:42Robbie Williams!
29:43And the only way I could see was going to America.
29:47I've got to leave the country here.
29:49And so I did that.
29:50And I did a nine-month radio tour.
29:54I don't know who Gary Barlow is.
29:56Ken Barlow?
29:57Who is he?
29:57Not Robbie, the other one.
29:59It started to dawn on me, nothing's happening here.
30:02And all this is happening at home.
30:04Because the news comes across.
30:07By this point, Robbie's now an albumin', multi-platinum, this, that and the other.
30:12I'm rich beyond my wildest dreams!
30:25I was incredibly competitive, so, yeah, I think I was jealous, yeah.
30:33You know, where Rob's got to is just too big.
30:47And I specifically remember going back to the UK, and on my way to the station, I got a call
30:56from RCA, saying, you know, we've looked at your options and we're going to drop you as an artist.
31:05And I thought, I've now got no record deal.
31:07And so I got on the train and went to Cheshire, and that was it.
31:12Gary Barlow, the man voted most likely to succeed post-take that, has been ditched by his record label.
31:20When we got to the 90s and the group started, all them, all those gigs, thousands of gigs, shitty clubs,
31:28people talking all the way through your set,
31:31slowly working out to win an audience over, learning how to write, writing songs, hundreds and hundreds of songs, the
31:39learning, the learning, the practicing, the singing, the vocal lessons, the performing,
31:44that all these things led to us walking on to the stage at Wembley Arena.
31:50And I just thought, this makes sense. This does. I've done all this work. I feel great. I'm ready for
31:56this.
31:57And you carry on and you build up and you're going all over the world. And I felt prepared for
32:02everything.
32:04And that was the bit I wasn't prepared for. It's like, oh, is that it?
32:12What am I going to do for the rest of my life? Because that's it with music now.
32:18I mean, I can't even walk down the street now without someone shouting something about Robbie to me, so I
32:25don't want to do that anymore.
32:26What's Robbie's story? I'm getting massive hits and my old friends are jealous.
32:32How many copies exactly is your album sold now? Oh, just a million.
32:36Yes! Come on!
32:38I saw the shit that Gary went through when you're solo singer and then you stop selling.
32:44You're going to get pointed at and have the piss taken out of you.
32:48None of us can sing. Oh, don't you worry a pretty little head about that.
32:51Your job's to dance about and distract the audience from Gary's beer gut.
32:54Eh? I'm joking, of course. I'm not.
32:58Gary, you're probably best if you stand behind the keyboard.
33:02I saw it all and watched it all.
33:05Oi, Faye, have some lunch.
33:08You just...
33:10Yeah, you were obsessed with it, the whole thing, you know.
33:13This is the Brit 25.
33:15When Rob went on the Brits.
33:17All those things, I watched them all.
33:18Back from Take That, please welcome Jerry Barlow and Howard Donnell.
33:24Whatever you said, whatever you did, I admit it.
33:28What I just want to do.
33:30Back to go.
33:32Here's Robbie!
33:36Sorry, Gary.
33:38Er...
33:39But I was always the talented member of the band.
33:44My problem's always been with Gary.
33:48My problem always was with Gary.
33:51I wanted to crush him.
33:54I wanted to crush the memory of the band, you know.
34:00And I didn't let go.
34:02Even when he was down, I didn't let go.
34:06When Rob, you know, said I was the talent, it's just...
34:09That was the shame for me.
34:11You're just like the butt of a joke.
34:13Gary Barlow is nice, he's a nice guy, but...
34:16He can't sing, he can't dance and he can't write songs.
34:20It was just so excruciating to...
34:23You just wanted to crawl into a hole.
34:26And there was a period of about 13 months
34:29where I didn't leave the house once.
34:33And I'd also started to put weight on.
34:35And the more weight I put on,
34:38the less people would recognise me.
34:41I thought, well, this is good.
34:43This is what I've been waiting for, living a normal life.
34:46And so I went on this mission then.
34:48If the food passed me, I'd just eat it.
34:51And I'd killed the pop star.
34:54I would have these nights where I'd eat and eat and eat,
34:58but however I felt about myself,
35:00I felt ten times worse the day after.
35:05And then one day I thought, you know what?
35:07I've been out, it's ten o'clock, I've eaten too much.
35:11I need to get rid of this food.
35:17You just go off to a dark corner of the house
35:20and just throw up, make yourself sick.
35:24And you just think, it's only once.
35:26It's only once.
35:28And all of a sudden, you're walking down that corridor again and again.
35:33Is this it?
35:34Is this what I'm gonna be doing forever?
35:38He went through a really hard time.
35:42I think Gary was like a casualty of Robbie's success.
35:48Gary was gonna be the big star, he was gonna be the next George Michael.
35:52And it wasn't, it was Robbie.
35:55I just didn't like what Robbie had become.
35:59It was quite hurtful, because Gary was my mate,
36:02and I was obviously gonna stick up for Gary.
36:06I just felt a lot of hatred towards Robbie.
36:10Maybe jealousy of his success.
36:14And the fact that he's taking the piss
36:16and getting more and more successful.
36:19It made it even worse.
36:21You wanna see him fall down.
36:23You wanna see him fall on their arse, you know.
36:28I went through a period where I didn't see Rob for a few years.
36:31I miss Rob not being in my life like he was then, you know.
36:35I missed him from when he left, and I miss him being a close friend.
36:38I'm so excited!
36:39Oh, calm down now, Marky.
36:45Still saw him.
36:46On occasion.
36:48We've got together looking now and again.
36:51At Nebworth we got on stage together.
36:54And in the taste of separation
36:57You have seldom been free
37:01Can't you find
37:02Can't you live inside
37:04Mark Owens, ladies and gentlemen!
37:13It's too weird to be gentlemen.
37:15Dreads line.
37:16In 99 I had my first child.
37:19Which was Grace.
37:21My little girl.
37:22Which is a real whack to the head.
37:24And a real wake-up call.
37:28Automatically you start having money worries.
37:31All of a sudden my money's dwindling.
37:34I've got to look after it.
37:35I've got to go to a smaller house.
37:37And reality again kicks you in the head.
37:40It's like, well...
37:42This is your life, son.
37:45You're not a pop star anymore.
37:46Hello, darling!
37:47Gary?
37:48Gary had Daniel in 2000.
37:53And that was the real great thing between us.
37:57I'd go to his house.
37:58I'd take Grace.
38:02It's the last time we ever fucking invite you, lad.
38:07Oh, you're so cruel.
38:09This was when he was going through his bad period of, you know, putting on weight.
38:16What I had growing alongside me, I'd got married and we were having kids.
38:22Thank God there was something else to do.
38:26Half of my brain was like, Dad, looking after the kids, loving it.
38:32While the other half of your brain's thinking, oh, you know, who are you now?
38:38You're waking up every day with this massive shadow.
38:43This incredible guilt.
38:46I've tried to hide it from everyone.
38:49I was so ashamed of it.
38:51Then you get out of bed.
38:54And you've got to go, hey, everyone.
38:56I'm going into the studio now.
38:58And Dad would go off to do his day's work and I'd literally sit in there,
39:02watching the piano, thinking, I used to write big hits on that thing.
39:07Now the piano was the enemy.
39:09I'd sit in there and I'd look at the clock and I'd come out at four and go,
39:13anyway, that was a good day.
39:15And I'd act this day of being in the studio pretending I was doing something.
39:21I was doing nothing.
39:23I mean, it's awful.
39:25Awful.
39:26And it went on for years.
39:33And then one day I got a call off Nigel.
39:40And he was saying, we need a band meeting.
39:43It was like a band. I'm not in a band.
39:46I haven't been in a band for years.
39:50Sony have come to him and said they want to do, like, a documentary.
39:57It was the thought of seeing everybody again.
40:00I thought, I've got to do something.
40:02What can I do to break this?
40:05And I looked in this cupboard and there was a pair of our old, like, trainers we used to do
40:12our performances in.
40:14And I dusted them off and put them on.
40:16And I went for a run.
40:20I'd like you to look into the lens, please, and say, my name is Jason Orange and this is Take
40:23That for the Record.
40:26That's the title.
40:28Are you having a laugh?
40:29No, seriously.
40:30Everyone else has done it.
40:35Do you know how difficult this is?
40:37Ta-da!
40:39You just think, I'm going to be a pop star for the weekend, you know.
40:44Put on the clothes that looks as pop star as possible.
40:49The suit jacket with a t-shirt underneath with a big scarf and a beanie at.
40:53Looking like I'm still wealthy.
40:57It was all a bit false.
41:02I was so out of practice.
41:04Oh, God, sorry. Shit.
41:06It was an almost out-of-body experience sitting back in that chair and being lit and having a mic
41:12put on.
41:13It was so weird to do that.
41:17The kids just thought it was the best thing ever.
41:20Cameras all round the house and they kept disturbing us and interrupting us.
41:25It was chaos the whole day.
41:27Is that it?
41:28Dan, you're going to have to go out, son, if you keep trumping like that.
41:34Hi, my name's Gary Barlow.
41:38Any good?
41:40I got stoned before I went in there.
41:43Because I didn't know how I was going to deal with it.
41:47Mark had just done Big Brother and he was sort of getting back on the saddle a bit.
41:52Owen, you are the winner of Celebrity Big Brother.
41:58First off, why are you taking part in this film?
42:07You know, going back to that time, you know, there's a bit of uncertainty about the whole thing.
42:12How's it, Howard? Say hello.
42:14Take That was about five people. And I never really got to know everybody individually and everybody's perspective.
42:24And I think that it will do everybody a lot of good. It's been quite, you know, up and down
42:30since the band.
42:32Everyone was kind of lost.
42:35The most lost was me.
42:37I had less answers than everyone else. I think that was a shock.
42:42Well, I bet it Howard, £100, that Robbie shows up.
42:46It's like this play.
42:47Anybody know anything?
42:50We know he's not going to turn up.
42:52Guys, we asked Robbie to come tonight.
42:54They were just going on and keeping the suspense going all the way through this interview and...
42:59He's declined.
43:01It was just bullshit.
43:04I'd quite like to play the messages that he's recording for you.
43:07We definitely felt ambushed.
43:10Howard, I just sincerely apologise for any upset that I may have caused you.
43:17To Jay, I'm really sorry.
43:19We all had different feelings about Rob at that point.
43:22You know, Mark missed him. Jason missed him.
43:25I hated him.
43:29Gaz, you're an amazing songwriter.
43:32Erm, I apologise for saying that you weren't.
43:34You have an amazing voice.
43:49What would you want to say back?
43:53I think we've...
43:54Oh, I've definitely said it in my interviews.
43:57Yeah.
43:57I was carrying so, so much stuff at that point.
44:05I was, you know, really nervous initially about the whole thing.
44:09I think it was something that...
44:12Like I said, we've all worked through it and tried to put it to bed in our own way.
44:16But I don't think any of us really ever had.
44:18I mean, I don't ever see us getting back up on stage together again.
44:23We just felt, right, they're gonna make this documentary,
44:25and then we just move on with our own lives after that.
44:33They did the premiere in Notting Hill.
44:36They'd invited quite a lot of names.
44:39It was the first time, I think, as a band,
44:42we actually went out in public in ten years.
44:47We were all a little bit nervous.
44:49What's it gonna be like?
44:50And, you know, we actually said, what we're doing, you know?
44:53What the hell are we doing?
44:55Big time nerds.
44:57It's quite scary.
44:59You look on the floor, there's a big puddle of wee.
45:04We knew the documentary was coming out the next day,
45:07but we didn't have a clue what it was gonna be like.
45:13We didn't really know what reception it would have,
45:17whether anybody even cared.
45:20I mean, it could have been a disaster.
45:25As we bring all five together for the first time in ten years.
45:30This is Take That for the record.
45:38I used to get the train up and down to London all the time.
45:41And I had, like, an outfit I used to wear for the train.
45:47It was quite a big jacket that used to zip up quite high above my lip.
45:51And I used to have this one grey hat.
45:54Got this text as I was getting on the train saying,
45:58congratulations, everybody.
45:59We were the most watched of any channel last night.
46:04And I thought, oh, wow, that's the first, like, piece of career good news I've had in about six years.
46:16And I just sat there and I unzipped my coat.
46:22And I just thought, oh, I'm all right being me today.
46:25This is, this is all right. This is nice.
46:28And then a woman come up to me and she went, oh, my God.
46:32We saw the documentary last night and we were dancing and we were singing along.
46:39Oh, just wanted to tell you, it was brilliant. Well done.
46:43And it was just lovely.
46:46Absolutely, it was like gold.
46:52We were in London together a few days later just to, you know, have a drink.
46:59And we all got pretty pissed.
47:01It was funny.
47:03It was just a funny situation, talking about stuff.
47:07And Mark had this folded over piece of paper.
47:13And it was from Simon Moran, concert promoter.
47:18You guys, as a four, could go and sell 30 arenas.
47:25What? No way. That's not going to happen. We're not going to fill that out.
47:30We sat there for a bit and we didn't really know what to say to one another.
47:34How the hell are we going to do this, you know?
47:37And then we said, should we ring Jay?
47:41Hey Jay, we're in this bar.
47:43We've got this crazy offer on the table here. We're all looking at it.
47:48Where are you?
47:49And he said, you're never going to believe it. I'm 20 minutes away.
47:53Just stay there. I'm on my way.
47:56It just seemed obvious to me straight away that they were far too drunk to make sensible decisions.
48:02This conversation started of, like, doubts.
48:09A lot of lack of confidence.
48:13We said, could we really do this again?
48:17And we sang Pray.
48:18All I do is now is pray.
48:21And we did the arms.
48:24That movement, the hands out, I always think that that is opening your heart.
48:31I think we'd all closed up for various reasons.
48:35And we all wanted to go and open up again.
48:39And we all went, da, da, da.
48:42And we did the moves at the bar table, you know.
48:45Da, da.
48:46And we're like, shit, can you remember it?
48:47And we're like, I can't remember it.
48:49It was that up, down, up, down for about two or three hours.
48:55And it was, like, massive excitement.
48:56And then it was, like, right, everybody, last drinks, we're kicking you out.
49:02I said, lads, my flat's round the corner, let's go round there.
49:05So we ended up going round my flat, more talking, more chatting.
49:10And we sat and chatted for about four hours.
49:14The sun was coming up.
49:15Everyone was like, well, we need to make a decision, don't we?
49:19And we all went, we've got to do it.
49:33So forgive me for the times I left you, baby.
49:39But you must understand there's a reason.
49:42And for all of those times you searched for my love.
49:48And I never gave up.
49:50And I never gave up.
49:51But the nights were always warm with you.
49:56Holding you right by my side.
50:00And the morning always comes to the same.
50:05Before I even close my eyes.
50:09And look in color blue by my side.
50:23I think you're coming to this room.
50:24But there will never be so bad when you were drunk.
50:24Ta換 one more memory.
50:28Gracias por ver el video
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