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00:12On Unidentified.
00:14We had been hearing rumors that there was a senior Navy official in the Italian government
00:20who may be interested in speaking with us.
00:22In Sicily, a craft appeared and it should arrive.
00:30This is nice. These are all their, Tom, these are all their events.
00:34This is it. This is the briefing.
00:37This has just now crossed the line to a true national security threat.
00:40This is a worldwide phenomenon.
00:42Is it interdimensional? Is it from another planet?
00:46There's a whole fleet of them. My gosh.
00:50For eight years, Lou Elizondo ran a secret UFO investigation for the U.S. military.
00:56But in 2017, he quit in protest.
00:59I put my entire future on the line because I believe in what I believe in.
01:02Now he's joined an elite group of former government insiders.
01:05Their mission, reveal what they say is the truth about UFOs.
01:09This is real and we're going to get to the bottom of it.
01:12For the past year, Elizondo's investigation has produced shocking revelations from military eyewitnesses.
01:18That is something I have never seen.
01:21Two Navy fighter pilots told him they came face-to-face with a tic-tac-shaped UFO in 2004.
01:28High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. How can I possibly fight this?
01:34And a Navy radar operator said he tracked an entire fleet of the unidentified craft flying over the Pacific.
01:41I had these objects raining out of the sky. Choo-choo-choo-choo.
01:44If these things are hostile, then we're screwed.
01:47But these stories were just the beginning.
01:49They're up there when we take off, and then we land, and my buddy that takes off an hour later
01:54has seen the same things.
01:56Lou Elizondo discovered a different class of UFOs, allegedly stalked Navy fighter pilots off the East Coast in 2015.
02:03It seemed like they were aware of our presence because they would actively move around us.
02:08And they even followed the pilots to the Middle East.
02:13We really have no idea what we're dealing with.
02:16But there's one thing his investigation has never found.
02:20Until now.
02:36Tell me about your journey and what it's been like so far in leaving the government.
02:43I don't know if it was a journey more or less than an odyssey that hasn't finished yet.
02:48It was probably one of the most difficult decisions I ever made in my life.
02:52With the ramifications that could be potentially disastrous.
02:56You know, it's not just me I gotta worry about. I gotta worry about my wife, my two daughters.
03:02I gave it all up to do what I thought was right.
03:09Half the people that I know think I'm crazy.
03:12The other half the people I know don't understand.
03:15At the end of the day, I hope that people a lot smarter than me will come out of the
03:20shadows and tell the government what they know.
03:23I did this because I needed our leadership and government to finally take notice.
03:29The only way I could fix this system was to fix it from the outside.
03:36Lou Elizondo and his partner Tom DeLong are on their way to Rome, Italy.
03:41When I was in the government, I just couldn't go to France or Italy and have a conversation about UFOs
03:47with their national defense apparatus.
03:50They'd been invited to a private meeting with senior Italian military officials concerned about UFO encounters.
04:01We had been hearing for a while rumors that there was a potential attack on an Italian aircraft.
04:09This is the first time that myself, even being an AATIP, was ever aware of an actual hostile act.
04:30Italy is one of the few nations that openly investigates UFOs.
04:36When Tom and myself first came to Italy, it was made very clear to us that this is not an
04:44Italian phenomenon.
04:45It's not an American phenomenon. It is indeed a global phenomenon.
04:49We believe that investigating and communicating the subject can help pull people of all nations together.
04:59Every government wants to keep extremely secret any information.
05:06Clarbruno Verdruccio is a scientist and was a commander in an elite unit of the Italian Navy.
05:13For 15 years, he's been investigating unidentified craft with a team of researchers.
05:20So I know several information, but my government don't want to know, because if my government know, they must do
05:33something.
05:33Absolutely. I would like to see what you have. That's what I'd like to see.
05:38If I tell you something that is restricted, you must give us something of restricted.
05:46We are not Russian, we are brothers.
05:50You have to give me something of the same weight.
05:55I still have to be cognizant of the security clearance I hold.
05:59So please do not confuse my speaking in generalities as trying to avoid a question.
06:09During our time in the AATIP program, we were focused on only two primary objectives.
06:15Those two objectives, what is it and how does it work?
06:19We still don't know what they are, but we have a much better understanding now of how they work.
06:26We assembled more than 13,000 cases during the last 70 years, and we have a database.
06:35The Italians have accumulated one of the world's largest collections of data on unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP.
06:42Unfortunately, if this is not shared with other people outside Italy, it's useless.
06:50We now have eyewitnesses from a broad range of individuals who have top secret clearances,
07:08who are trained observers,
07:12who are trusted to fly live munitions over cities,
07:22and fight wars and win them on our behalf.
07:24For the first time, we are going to be guests of the Italian government,
07:28and we are going to be working with those individuals to see what they're willing to share with us.
07:33We'd like to get into an information sharing agreement with them.
07:35Of course, at the unclassified level, but see what they're willing to share,
07:39and see if anything that they share with us happens to match some of the same profiles we're seeing over
07:43here.
07:43There are an increasing number of people in the United States,
07:49and the government,
07:52that are beginning to take this conversation very seriously.
08:00I submit to you if any of these vehicles had a foreign adversary flag on the tail,
08:20or identification number,
08:24and they could come into our airspace without impunity,
08:30it would be a national security issue.
08:36There's one incident in particular the officials want to discuss.
08:40On 2004, in Sicily, a craft appeared a few hundred of meters behind the captor tail,
08:50and it shot a rail that destroyed helicopter wings.
08:58I can show you the photograph.
09:02That's what I'd like to see.
09:04This was the only helicopter in the airspace on a secret mission
09:07to actually investigate the UAP phenomenon off the coast of that island,
09:12and it gets zapped, and there's several pictures from different cameras
09:16on the island of the same helicopter and a UAP following it.
09:20Coming up on Unidentified.
09:22So this was deliberate.
09:23You believe that it was a deliberate?
09:25In that case, yes.
09:26I hate to say it, but they may have more information than we do even in the U.S.
09:31At this point, these things are coming up close and personal.
09:34We are being forced to address it.
09:36I thought it was an important thing for our country,
09:38and I think people who run from this are absolutely wrong.
09:49In Sicily, a craft appeared a few hundred of meters behind the captor tail,
09:58and it shot a rail that destroyed helicopter wings.
10:07I can show you the photograph.
10:10That's what I'd like to see.
10:12Clarbruno Verduccio was a commander in the Italian military's equivalent of the U.S. Navy SEALs.
10:17He's describing a harrowing 2004 encounter between one of his military helicopters and a UFO.
10:24We can't use missiles against this device.
10:29So, you know, we can launch missiles or the missile will be sent back.
10:36So, this was deliberate? Do you believe that it was a deliberate?
10:39In that case, yes.
10:44In that case, yes.
11:05The copter was chased by a saucer-shaped UFO that shot a powerful electromagnetic beam at its rotor.
11:12The helicopter was severely damaged, but able to land.
11:16The incident was photographed by a local resident.
11:20Locals had also reported seeing mysterious lights over the sea.
11:23For months, the military investigators were baffled.
11:26But they were able to piece together a few key details.
11:31This signal was absolutely directional.
11:36It was a beam.
11:39That on a certain frequency band, we could see them.
11:43And then we discovered that when they use their energy weapons,
11:49they must go outside the stealth mode.
11:57Just in that moment, we can hit them with depleted uranium weapons.
12:07And now, what do you say to me?
12:10Militaries around the world have electromagnetic pulse weapons
12:13that produce quick bursts of energy that can destroy electrical systems.
12:17But the Italians claim the pulse fired in the attack on their helicopter destroyed its rotor.
12:22No known military has that capability.
12:25They were very pointed and matter-of-fact that these things had been kind of plaguing them for some time.
12:31One individual in particular provided some very, very detailed information to include some analysis on frequency.
12:39I hate to say it, but they may have more information than we do even in the U.S. potentially.
12:44The Italians say the spontaneous fires in northern Sicily were also caused by an electromagnetic beam,
12:51which they say came from the ocean.
12:54So the target was found at a distance of around 80 kilometers.
13:00And the source was in the open sea.
13:04Do we have an altitude?
13:05Because it was in the bottom of the sea.
13:09Elizondo has heard reports of UFOs in the ocean before.
13:13We all very quickly realized that there was something in the water.
13:17Luzes que están bajo el agua.
13:19Y de repente se clavó en el agua.
13:21In the water.
13:21Yeah.
13:24You could use this same frequency to provide a radio beacon.
13:33To follow them.
13:36First.
13:37To attract them.
13:39To show them that we have understood their technology.
13:45Communication.
13:48This was next level.
13:50One of our international friends may have even figured out a way to communicate.
13:57But we didn't get that far at A-Tip, that's for damn sure.
14:07I can't answer that question.
14:08Of course.
14:09It's quite classified.
14:13Sorry.
14:13I cannot speak on behalf of if other efforts had existed within the US government.
14:21In Russia, and now even in China, there is the tendency to organize at a government level in order to
14:32study such phenomena and to find results from these studies.
14:36You are aware of this?
14:37I am.
14:38Okay.
14:39I think we're all in the same boat.
14:43So my hope is with the help of you all and everybody else, we can move this topic forward.
14:51This affects humanity.
14:52This doesn't affect just one country.
14:54And so the question is, in which way our association can help you?
15:02As the meeting winds down, Elizondo DeLong and the Italian officials agree to form a global partnership.
15:09If their governments won't take the threat seriously, they'll work together outside the system.
15:15The last moment or the last hour of our engagement with the Italian government, we were afforded a thumb drive.
15:22A thumb drive that has a tremendous amount of data on it about UAPs and here, particularly in Italy.
15:36These are all their, Tom, these are all their events.
15:40I've got the whole thing here.
15:42These are all the, all the events since 1901 here in Italy.
15:46All the reports?
15:48The entire spreadsheet.
15:50All the lat longs and everything.
15:52Dude, look at these, look at these historical ones.
15:54This is nuts.
15:56Look, they got some analysis.
15:59Oh man, this is the incident that happened down in Sicily.
16:02There it is, look at that.
16:04That is incredible.
16:06This is it.
16:07And this is where they have the helicopter.
16:09Son of a, this is the briefing.
16:11There it is, right behind it, right?
16:13And then when you come over here, this is the actual top secret investigation they did.
16:17Here's the rotors and here's a close-up.
16:21Had any foreign adversary attacked a military helicopter of another nation, that could be a sign of aggression for sure
16:29and maybe potentially an act of war.
16:31So, that's a big deal.
16:33Coming up on Unidentified.
16:35What will your feelings be if it turns out that it is not a U.S. capability?
16:40Then it's something else.
16:41We're at step four and these things are at step 30 or 300.
16:55It is incumbent upon any government to protect its people.
16:58And if there's any military aircraft that is interfered with, that could be a sign of vulnerabilities.
17:05And that's a huge issue.
17:14Hey, what's up?
17:15Lou Elizondo is back from Italy.
17:17He's meeting up with his partner, Steve Justice.
17:20Justice is the former director of Advanced Systems for Lockheed Martin's Legendary Skunk Works Division.
17:25Here's the bottom line. There's three options.
17:30It's a foreign technology.
17:32The second option is, it's our technology.
17:34Something that we have managed to keep under wraps for a super long time.
17:38The third option is that this is, this is something else.
17:44Where does that leave us?
17:46Over the past year, Elizondo and Justice have met to explore possible explanations for the incredible accounts of U.S.
17:53military encounters with UFOs.
17:57They discussed whether UFOs could actually be top secret American military test aircraft.
18:02And the pilots they interviewed were merely unwitting test subjects.
18:06I can't completely eliminate the fact that, you know, those type of velocities potentially, potentially are achievable with certain technologies
18:17we have.
18:18It's possible. It could be because, you know, it was an operational test. You know, not everybody gets to know
18:27everything.
18:28They also considered whether these UFOs could be advanced aircraft from a foreign adversary.
18:35A foreign adversary, they would have to send in something that's super sophisticated and fast, that can get in, look
18:40at what it is we're doing, and then get back out, right?
18:43My card is fear is that an adversary did figure it out. And we are just way, way, way, way,
18:49way behind.
18:51The third and most controversial theory is that these unidentified craft are not of this world.
18:59These things that we're seeing, they don't have wings, they don't have tails, they don't really have any cockpits that
19:04we can see.
19:05They don't have anything that we would normally associate with the traditional aircraft.
19:10Right.
19:10We can create systems that do pieces of each of these, and not a single system that does all of
19:19these.
19:21Precisely.
19:22When we were at AATIP, we had some really smart people. These were scientists, academics, who had put a lot
19:27of time and effort into trying to figure out the physics of this.
19:32We were looking at what are these things and what will it take to explain them and then to exploit
19:39them and be able to build them.
19:40Right.
19:41Although we were focused on the nuts and bolts, we were trying to look at all potential possibilities and options
19:45of what this could be.
19:47Part of that was a commissioning of several studies that has now become quite public. 37 studies.
19:53Right.
19:55This declassified list of studies, Elizondo's secret UFO program commissioned, was released to the public in 2019, thanks to the
20:02efforts of the late Senator John McCain.
20:06I'm going to pull up real quick here. This is a letter.
20:10Oh, this is the McCain?
20:12Yeah, so I think it's important we put this into context. This is the response by DIA to the late
20:19Senator John McCain.
20:21Senator McCain has been there, done that, fought for this country. For him to take the time to do this,
20:29I think it's very telling.
20:30And at this point in time, he knew what his fate was as well. And so it was clear he
20:35wanted to accomplish some things.
20:37In July 2018, Senator McCain sent a request to the Defense Intelligence Agency for all non-classified documents from Elizondo's
20:45secret program to be released to the public.
20:47Now that the list of studies has been released by the U.S. government, we really weren't looking at aircraft
20:5440 years in the future.
20:56We were looking at a paradigm-changing technology to try to help explain the phenomenon.
21:01Correct. The biggest obstacle these things have to overcome is a lot of these were typically classified as pseudoscience.
21:06Right.
21:08The studies explored complex theoretical topics like invisibility, wormholes, and anti-gravity, subjects many believe to be science fiction.
21:17This technology is, for all intents and purposes, magic. So, you know, we would like to get it.
21:23Whoever cracks the code and figures this stuff out first would have a tremendous advantage over our other adversaries.
21:30What will your feelings be if it turns out that it is not a foreign technology capability and it is
21:38not a U.S. capability? Then what?
21:43Then it's something else. Because it's hard to say it's not there.
21:48The studies examined cutting-edge theories, but they did not address the question that has shadowed the UFO community for
21:54decades.
21:55The possibility that intelligent life from another solar system has arrived on Earth.
22:00The question has been debated for decades, with no hard proof.
22:10The question of whether or not there's extraterrestrial life is certainly a scientific question that deserves investigation.
22:16Matthew Kleban is a leading theoretical physicist at New York University.
22:20We now know that our own galaxy contains of order 100 billion stars,
22:24and there are of order 10 or 100 billion other galaxies that we can observe within the observable part of
22:29our universe.
22:30So you multiply those two numbers together and it's a staggeringly huge figure.
22:34With the help of deep space telescopes, astrophysicists estimate that not only do billions of solar systems exist in our
22:41observable universe,
22:42up to one in four contain a planet that could sustain life.
22:46It would be naive to think that, you know, we could be the only ones out there, and I get
22:52that.
22:53What I'm always fearful of is in people focusing in on aliens.
22:58Now you start going down the roads of, you know, is it from another planet?
23:03Is it interdimensional? You know, is it spiritual? What is those things?
23:08And it opens up so many cans of worms that I just don't allow myself to go down that path.
23:18I mean, I think it's disingenuous to say it's not an option.
23:21It's so unknown that we really have no idea what we're dealing with.
23:31Busy morning so far. Lots going on, actually.
23:34Lots of phone calls and emails on our favorite subject.
23:39So, things are hopping, and very much looking forward to seeing the senator.
23:47Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, is on his way to meet with a powerful ally
23:53in his mission to get the government to take the UFO threat seriously.
23:56Former Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid.
24:01Harry Reid was convinced by doing his own research that this was something, as an elected official, he should probably
24:08care about.
24:09And he clearly convinced some of his colleagues in the Senate that it was important enough to look into.
24:14And that's how this Pentagon program got started in the first place.
24:17Senator Reid was the driving force behind the creation of the Pentagon's secret UFO unit, known as AATIP.
24:24Reid retired from the Senate in 2017.
24:26But he's still working behind the scenes to push the U.S. government to study what he believes is a
24:32clear and present danger to national security.
24:34There's a lot of very profound, very deep issues that an individual like Harry Reid is acutely aware of that
24:41he's been deeply involved with.
24:43And for him to devote time to this issue in the twilight of his career, you know, it's fascinating.
24:53We've been in a quandary. We have these very, very proficient, best trained pilots in the world, and they see
25:02these strange occurrences.
25:03And in the past, they've been afraid to say anything to anyone for fear they would be looked at as
25:09a little strange, a little weird.
25:12So for decades, nothing has been done about these instances.
25:16What I wanted to do today, initially, is provide an update.
25:21Mellon wants Reid to know about the increasingly dangerous military encounters with UFOs his team has uncovered.
25:29We've learned that beginning in 2015, there were scores of encounters off the east coast of the United States
25:38between U.S. naval fighters and unidentified flying objects of different kinds.
25:45And this was within minutes of a flying distance from the nation's capital.
25:50This is still unresolved, and this is still continuing.
25:53And active-duty pilots have approached us and shared these stories with us.
25:58Wherever we were, they were there. So that could mean two things.
26:01That could mean they were already there, or they were following the strike group.
26:04One of the extraordinary things we learned from these pilots is that when their carrier battle group deployed across the
26:10Atlantic,
26:11they continued to encounter these things all the way across the Atlantic, into the Middle East, and even over Syria.
26:17We hear so much about off the coast of Florida, and especially Virginia, people think that's the only place these
26:24unusual things happen.
26:26It's not true. It's all over the world where we have battle groups.
26:31So this isn't anything that just is limited to the United States. It's a worldwide phenomenon.
26:35But we're finding in both the legislative and executive branch this still lingering concern about a stigma.
26:42But I never hid from it. I acknowledge it. I thought it was an important thing for our country.
26:47And I think people who run from this are absolutely wrong.
26:52Senator Reid secured funding for the Pentagon's secret UFO program in part because he and others had come to believe
26:58America's adversaries were gaining the advantage.
27:05Since I got interested in this has been KGB Putin. He was head of the KGB, and I guarantee you
27:14that he's got a lot of information on this.
27:17And I would bet that Russia is ahead of us in looking into this scientifically.
27:22I don't know if this might look familiar. This was a briefing slide, a set of briefing charts prepared for
27:29the Deputy Secretary of Defense.
27:30In advance of a meeting with you. And I want to do, since you mentioned Vladimir Putin, this was 2009.
27:39And so a decade ago, it says, quote, according to Putin, in the near future Russia will have weapons systems,
27:47which no other country in the world has at the given time.
27:50The newest technical systems will be capable of destroying targets at an intercontinental distance with hypersonic speed and precision and
27:58with extreme maneuverability in altitude and course.
28:01And I repeat, that is ten years old.
28:04Correct.
28:04Think of the progress that we've made since then. And what have we been doing? Not much.
28:09Yes, sir. And we absolutely share your concern. And one of the things that is very frustrating to me as
28:16a former Defense Department official myself, it's not even being examined. It's sitting on computer servers.
28:21You know why they're not looking at it? They don't want to. It's another issue that they're trying to ignore.
28:26And that's what's happened over the years. And that's too bad. We now have the technology.
28:30What else is going on in the space? That information is coming in. It's all stored someplace in a computer
28:36bank and it could be pulled up.
28:38We're in an environment right now where there's sort of unprecedented distrust of our government. Do you have any reason
28:43to believe that there is a government cover-up of UFOs, that behind the scenes the government actually really does
28:50know the answers and has a…
28:52I think the government doesn't know the answers. But over the decades, rather than try to find the answers, they've
28:59tried to cover up what the answers might be.
29:01In an effort to find answers, Reid brought in aerospace entrepreneur Bob Bigelow.
29:07And Bob Bigelow has, you know, been very open about his views that he believes there are, you know, intelligent
29:13beings from some other place that have visited here.
29:18Bigelow is one of the few high-profile people involved in the Pentagon's secret program to say he believes the
29:23unidentified craft are from another world.
29:27Bob Bigelow recently said on national TV that he absolutely believes not only that alien life exists, but that aliens
29:34are here, that aliens are visiting Earth. Do you share that view?
29:38I feel it would be, from a congressional standpoint, it would affect my credibility if I started talking about everything
29:48I know.
29:49Coming up on Unidentified.
29:51These are individuals that have to remain very, very much protected.
29:55Right before the meeting concluded, I was pulled aside and shared some private information.
30:09Okay, so it's a huge week for us. This is a really big moment, so talk to me a little
30:14bit about today and the people we're meeting.
30:17I'll be introducing you to an individual that worked with me when I was with ATIP.
30:24Lou Elizondo and Tom DeLong are in Washington, D.C. for a series of secret meetings with government officials.
30:31The reason for this meeting is to basically de-conflict and coordinate where are some of the areas that we
30:38can continue to help, you know, inform and push the cause.
30:41And they are going to also let us know what they're doing on their end.
30:44We want to make sure we don't step on each other's toes and we can help each other out.
30:48Since he left the Pentagon, Elizondo has been working to convince the military to create a formal process for pilots
30:53and others to report their encounters with UFOs.
30:57Just a year ago, if I wanted to have a conversation in the halls of the Pentagon about this, I
31:01had to go into a vault that was located inside a skiff.
31:04I had to shut the door, turn on noisemakers, and then I had to whisper in a very quiet voice
31:08because of the nature and the sensitivity and the stigma that was associated with this portfolio.
31:13And I think that's important because I think the conversation about this requires transparency, requires collaboration, and it requires honesty.
31:22When you come across a game-changing technology, it's very, very important that you report that up through the chain
31:29of command.
31:31The Department of Defense says Elizondo's secret UFO program officially shut down in 2012.
31:38But Elizondo says the investigation continues.
31:41In the DOD, there's two things that occur when you have an organization.
31:46There's paperwork when you start a program and there's paperwork when you end a program.
31:50You won't find any paperwork that ended ATIP.
31:53Over the past year, he's been communicating behind the scenes with a new team of Pentagon intelligence officers who are
32:00studying UFOs.
32:03ATIP is no longer run by a single office.
32:06There's now several offices that are engaged in this effort.
32:10We meet with people regularly involved in this effort.
32:14And that's about all I can say.
32:16Let's roll.
32:19Elizondo and DeLong head to a meeting with three military intelligence officers.
32:24These are individuals that have to remain very, very much protected.
32:29There are extremely qualified people whom I trust, whom I personally know, that are still running this effort.
32:36And it is being run with official blessing.
32:39And that is what I'm prepared to say.
32:41I cannot go into any more than that.
32:48The meeting lasts for over an hour.
32:50Right before the meeting concluded, I was pulled aside and shared some private information that there is still some degree
32:58of animosity regarding my departure.
33:02I didn't ask for this portfolio.
33:04It was given to me.
33:06And I committed myself to it from day one.
33:09You know, you're given a mission that you believe in, and your job is to finish that mission.
33:21Since he went public, Elizondo has been able to bring military eyewitnesses out of the shadows and on the record.
33:28We finally have people having conversations about this enigma.
33:34When I got called to go to the Pentagon and provide a now serious debrief, it's a little surreal.
33:41People have testified before Congress, these are active duty military personnel.
33:47Other people have had this issue as well, so it's not a one off with me.
33:51They have informed Congress. We have the executive department engaged.
33:55So far, this group of individuals have made more progress in getting this issue into the mainstream and taken seriously
34:03than anybody has in a very, very long time, if ever.
34:07There's a growing awareness in Congress about this.
34:11But I don't anticipate that anytime soon we're going to have UFO hearings on Capitol Hill.
34:23It really goes against my DNA to have gone, quote unquote, public with this.
34:29Do I think it was the right decision? I think it was the only decision.
34:31Because otherwise, we'd still be where we were a year ago, which is nowhere.
34:41Something unexplained is happening in the skies above the United States. Even the U.S. Navy isn't certain what is
34:46going on.
34:46In April 2019, the U.S. Navy made an unprecedented announcement. It's creating a new protocol for pilots to report
34:53UFO sightings.
34:55For Chris Mellon, the announcement is a major victory.
34:59Chris Mellon is a former Pentagon intelligence official. Chris, thanks very much for coming on.
35:03Thank you, Tucker. It's an extraordinary turnaround. And it's really the result of an interaction between Congress and the Navy.
35:09And the fact that this has gotten on Congress's radar began some discussions which elevated an issue that before this
35:19time had been smothered and kept at low levels of the bureaucracy.
35:24This is probably single-handedly one of the greatest things that the Navy could do for this country.
35:30For Lou Elizondo, the new Navy policy is confirmation of everything he's worked for over the past year.
35:36It's also an admission the UFO phenomenon is real and needs to be studied.
35:40They're writing policy that, rather than keeping people quiet, will encourage people to come forward.
35:46Keep in mind that the topic of UAPs, just a year and a half ago, people were snickering and laughing,
35:52right?
35:52That was relegated to B-Hollywood movies and cheap TV shows, and now people are having a real conversation.
36:00The Navy's new UFO policy was first reported by Politico's Brian Bender.
36:06Lou Elizondo, Chris Mellon, and others have come forward to try and get the Pentagon leadership to do more about
36:12this.
36:13To apply real resources to try and figure out, is it real? Is it an adversary? Is it something else?
36:20Where that will lead, I think, remains to be seen.
36:34Hello there!
36:35Howdy, Jess! How are you?
36:37Hate to break up the party, but, uh, Tom normally wouldn't do this,
36:41but, if you've got a couple minutes, I need to give you a quick update on a recent development.
36:45Let's do it!
36:46So, Tom, this, um, this just hit the wire. This is a Politico article.
36:52The title is, U.S. Navy Drafting New Guidelines for Reporting UFOs.
36:57That's insane.
36:59Can you read the subtitle?
37:00That's insane.
37:02The fact that they're coming out now, and they're saying that this is real, and there's incursions over our sensitive
37:08sites,
37:09we're putting together a national security policy to track them, it's, like, insane to me.
37:14And to report them. So, you're up, sorry, I think you can break it down to three things.
37:16My heart's, like, beating fast, insane to me. It's, like, crazy.
37:19I'm pretty energized.
37:20There are three pieces to this article that I find most captivating.
37:24A, that the Navy is taking this seriously.
37:26B, it's establishing an official reporting mechanism.
37:28And C, that they have been talking with members of Congress and their staff.
37:33It not only vindicates a lot of the hard work that's been going on behind the scenes,
37:38but also I think it's a testament to the brave men and women in the U.S. Navy who want
37:43to figure out what these things are.
37:45I mean, Tom, this has been the culmination of all my, personally, all my effort.
37:50You know, I never did this for fame or status or damn sure not a paycheck.
37:54I'm doing this because I was trying to fix a broken system, right?
37:57And as I've told people before, the only thing I managed to accomplish in my entire new career moving forward
38:03is getting a reporting mechanism established so people can report these things without fear of any type of retribution
38:09or any type of consequences professionally, losing their security clearance or losing their flight status, right?
38:14All the things that were bottlenecking me before from having reports come out.
38:20That is the only thing I ever truly, that was mission success for me.
38:24And here we are literally a year and a half later of you coming on stage and telling the world
38:29you're going to do this.
38:31It happened.
38:32It's absolutely wild.
38:33Exciting stuff.
38:34Let's see.
38:37The Air Force interest in this problem has been due to our feeling of an obligation to identify and analyze
38:46to the best of our ability anything in the air that may have the possibility of threat or menace to
38:53the United States.
38:55At this point, these things are coming up close and personal.
38:58We are being forced to address it.
39:00We don't have the luxury to sit back anymore as a country and say, let's not pay attention to that.
39:05We have to pay attention to it.
39:07Because now it appears to be stalking some of our DOD assets.
39:13At base, these are reports from pilots, from military pilots in the Navy today or very recently in the Navy
39:22that have seen these phenomenon and reported them.
39:26I was a witness to something.
39:28It's something that I happened to encounter.
39:32I don't know what it was.
39:34People ask me, what do you think it was?
39:36Do you think it was of this Earth?
39:37Do you think it was aliens?
39:43If these things are out there, and we know they're out there, there's enough credible that says there's things that
39:47we don't understand.
39:48I can tell you that the other people that were involved all feel the same way.
39:54Not everyone is talking.
39:55Some of them are still on active duty.
39:57But we all would love to know what it is.
40:02I mean, I would love to fly it.
40:09This is the story of the millennia.
40:13This is changing the world stuff.
40:15This really is, in my heart, like I am a part of something.
40:19I created something that has an opportunity to change the world.
40:25And I really feel that.
40:26That is why I'm doing this.
40:28For the first time in the history of our country, and in the history of the subject,
40:33the stigma and the taboo nature about it just got shattered to a thousand pieces in the wind.
40:48We have an intelligence collection apparatus that is global in nature and exquisite from 22,500 miles above the Earth's
40:58surface
40:59to virtually the deepest levels of the ocean that may already have answers to many of the questions that we
41:06have.
41:06My hope is that members of Congress will simply ask the right questions.
41:13They have an opportunity, when this information is provided to them, to respond to it and act on it.
41:24I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this
41:35world.
41:36The day will come when this occurs to you that it's real, that there's some other intelligence here,
41:41that it's far more advanced than us, that it could do whatever it wants to us and we'd be powerless
41:47against it.
42:02At the end of the day, I don't care if you believe it, I know what I've seen.
42:07This stands as a reminder for everything that we do and how important it is.
42:10The job of every man and woman and civilian, sailor, soldier, airman in the military,
42:17we do what we do because of this, and this is a reminder of that sacrifice.
42:25I am extremely optimistic that in a very short period of time, we're going to finally have answers and resolution
42:32to some long-standing questions.
42:36We have access to people, to efforts like never before, to places we could never go before.
42:45Maybe we can even build some things.
42:49I think we're going to have new events that America has never been made aware of.
42:54We're going to build this case so airtight that not only is it a beyond reasonable doubt situation, it will
43:02be irrefutable.
43:07I think we're upon a precipice.
43:10I think the time has finally come.
43:16One last question, do you think the public can handle the truth?
43:19What do you think of a medicare in terms of action?
43:20What do you think of a pacifist?
43:23As far as control a caricature of the directives, it's a provocation.
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