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00:12Coming up on Unidentified.
00:14They all changed position, and then they were gone.
00:18And as soon as I turned the light, she was straight to me.
00:22When you look at the data, the Nimitz was not an isolated event.
00:25I know what I saw. Even if I don't know what it is, I know I saw it.
00:28Do you know what it's like to serve your country,
00:31only to have someone come out and say, you're crazy?
00:36The Pentagon has confirmed the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program
00:40that studied UFOs, and they released video.
00:43There's a whole screen of them. My gosh.
00:46For eight years, Lou Elizondo ran a secret UFO program for the U.S. military.
00:52But in 2017, he quit in protest.
00:55I put my entire future on the line because I believe in what I believe in.
00:59Now he's joined an elite group of former government insiders.
01:02Their mission, reveal what they say is the truth about UFOs.
01:07U.S. airspace is being violated by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities.
01:12This is real, and we're going to hit the bottom of it.
01:15I've seen too much. I've talked to too many people.
01:18I can't in good conscience just keep my head buried in the sand.
01:33So while investigating the Nimitz incident, we came across some information that leads us to believe
01:40that there may be a particular area, rally point, so to speak, where some of these things are going.
01:46That's a big deal. At a minimum, we need to get down to that site, and we need to figure
01:52out what's going on.
01:54Lou Elizondo is following an extraordinary break in his investigation into a major military UFO sighting off the West Coast.
02:02In the fall of 2004, two F-18 pilots from the USS Nimitz told Elizondo they came face-to-face
02:09with a bizarre tic-tac-shaped object.
02:11High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration.
02:14We go, whoa, we don't have that.
02:16You know, when I'm talking, we're flying one of the premier airplanes on the planet.
02:20But the incident wasn't an isolated event.
02:23A Navy technician revealed the craft allegedly traveled underwater at nearly two times the speed of the fastest U.S.
02:29submarine.
02:30According to one of the sonar guys, they were going 70-plus knots under the water.
02:34And another Navy radar specialist says he had tracked as many as 100 of the strange craft for days.
02:39They fell off my radar envelope down off the coast of Baja, California.
02:43Okay.
02:43These things were going somewhere.
02:45I could tell you the Latin one.
02:48We now have a very good lead on a potential hotspot.
02:53What does that mean?
02:54I don't know what does it mean.
02:55Are these things, can you see them all the time flying around out there?
02:57Is it underwater?
02:58What about the locals?
03:00These are all other things now that we can use to help us start collecting additional data points and putting
03:05the pieces of the puzzle together.
03:10Hey, how are you, brother?
03:13Good, man.
03:13I'm pulling right up.
03:15Joining Elizondo is a new member of the investigation, who himself was a witness to the strange events of November
03:212004.
03:22Different people have different motivations for coming forward.
03:26These are soldiers or sailors who've been involved in something extraordinary.
03:29They're not quite sure what to make of it, but they want the truth to come out.
03:32How are you, my friend?
03:33Very good.
03:34How are things going?
03:34They're outstanding today.
03:37Sean Cahill served 20 years in the Navy.
03:39He was the top security officer on the USS Princeton, a missile cruiser in the USS Nimitz carrier strike group.
03:46Cahill was responsible for law and order aboard the ship and running counterterrorism patrols at sea.
03:52Tell me when this event began for you.
03:57We were told Nimitz has got something going on.
03:59They've got something in the airspace.
04:00Cahill is the fifth Navy witness to come forward.
04:02This is the first time he has spoken publicly about the events.
04:07We're getting calls up on the bridge to run out on the bridge wing and let us know if you
04:12see anything.
04:13And they'd give us an angle and they'd say, do you see anything out there?
04:15And a few times we even turned the ship.
04:17And I recall saying, what are we looking for?
04:20And I think that they were saying, oh, the Nimitz has got some strange contacts.
04:23They obviously had something on radar.
04:26They wanted us to see if we could put eyes on it.
04:28They didn't tell us what we were looking for.
04:30We went out on the bridge wing and me and one of my lookouts were scanning the sky.
04:35What Cahill witnessed has haunted him for 15 years.
04:40So we were both looking up ahead, about 45 degrees angle.
04:44And there was a constellation of lights up there.
04:48Let me get this straight.
04:48You're looking up and you see these pattern of lights.
04:52They all changed positions.
04:53Some moving inward towards the center, some moving outward, but all rotating.
04:57As it rotated, some of the lights disappeared.
05:01And then they were gone.
05:03I didn't see a trail.
05:04I didn't see any effect.
05:06It was just, there was a light there and then there was no longer a light there.
05:08But the night was clear.
05:10This was not stars being occluded by clouds.
05:12That was when I got, as I get the goosebumps right now, I got really interested in what was going
05:17on.
05:18What the hell is this?
05:20Cahill is the first eyewitness to describe this abrupt and extraordinary movement of multiple craft.
05:25If Princeton had it on the radar, why isn't this on the news every night that something we don't understand
05:32is present in our atmosphere, coming and going as it pleases, with absolute impunity over our military?
05:39Cahill's account bolsters the testimony of his shipmate, Kevin Day.
05:43The next morning, I wouldn't check my email, and I had a video from the Black Aces squadron.
05:48The following morning at breakfast, I talked to Kevin Day and another chief petty officer who's a radar operator.
05:54And I said to them, what was going on last night?
05:57And the chief grunted at me, go look at your email.
06:00I go in the back, and I log on, and there's the video.
06:05The next morning, Cahill and Day watched a longer version of this video, captured by an F-18's camera.
06:11It's the same video that wouldn't be seen again until more than a decade later, when Elizondo helped get it
06:17released to the public in 2017.
06:20Every night we would have an operations intelligence briefing.
06:22So, I kind of smirk and I walk in because I'm like, wow, maybe we're going to hear something.
06:28Maybe we're going to find out what was going on.
06:31Now, as they start the briefing, the young officer in charge gave the little nod to the person running the
06:35computer, and, you know, next slide.
06:36And as they hit the space bar, a caricature of a flying saucer with a little green alien moves across
06:44the screen.
06:46The room erupts in laughter, and that was it.
06:50Captain said, well, we all, we had a little bit of fun.
06:52I guess you guys were chasing something around, but that's over now.
06:55Let's get on with the briefing.
06:56I'm an intel guy.
06:57It's not uncommon that if you have a person in a particular position of trust, and you want to keep
07:02them quiet, that ridicule can be used as some sort of leverage.
07:05I want to know how that thing went that fast, and why it didn't need wings, and whose it is.
07:09And if it's not us, it's a national security threat.
07:14When I came back from the trip, and as time went by, and as I told friends and family about
07:21it, I didn't want my own memories to change enough that I would question my own memories.
07:25And so I wanted to tell other people while it was still fresh.
07:27And there were people who were interested for my well-being, and then there were other people that immediately were
07:32like, well, that's weird.
07:34And I said, what do you think about it?
07:35They couldn't formulate an opinion.
07:37A lot of people can't seem to formulate an opinion beyond, I don't know about that, I don't believe in
07:43that, or I don't know what that was.
07:45And even getting someone to speculate is hard.
07:48It ends up coming down to what you can perceive and what you can't.
07:51There's something about it that isn't even manifested as real for other people.
07:57But it was on the radar.
08:00It's on the footage.
08:01I saw it with my eyes.
08:03The pilots saw it with their eyes.
08:04The watchman, the sailor next to me, saw it with his eyes.
08:08This is a real phenomenon.
08:10Nobody raised an eyebrow, and it didn't seem like anybody cared.
08:14We weren't even told not to talk about it.
08:16And that was one of the things that struck me as being, how do I put it, delegitimized the experience.
08:24And I got to a point where I pretended like it didn't happen, to be honest with you.
08:31Someone tells you that something you encountered is not real, and that you're crazy, and you've got nowhere to go.
08:38Finally, after 15 years of carrying this secret around, somebody was paying attention.
08:42It was real, and other people experienced it, too.
08:46And he wasn't going crazy.
08:56How we doing, brother?
08:57Morning.
08:57How you doing?
08:58You know, any day above ground is a good day.
09:00Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
09:01I've asked Sean to come with us on this trip.
09:03He is a trained investigator, knows how to ask the right questions.
09:07He also has personal investment in it.
09:10I think Sean would like some answers himself.
09:14Cahill is joining Elizondo on a mission to Mexico, following a lead from a Navy radar operator.
09:20Kevin Day provided us a completely new piece of the puzzle we never had before.
09:24Day provided the coordinates where he says a fleet of UFOs disappeared off Navy radar.
09:29We can actually now go to the location, and we can try to figure out if there's any type of
09:34correlation at all.
09:38Coming up on Unidentified.
09:40This is a part of the Nimitz story that not only has never been told, has never really been explored.
09:46I just turned the lights, and as soon as I turned the lights, she was...
09:49Loses.
09:51Lights coming out of the water and moving.
09:53Nine, ten, eleven different unique incidents.
09:55That's definitely a hot spot.
09:56Where were you when you saw this?
09:58Guadalupe.
09:59A la isla de Guadalupe.
10:10My hope is to hear what people have to say, if anything.
10:13If they have anything to provide, I want to be able to hear it myself.
10:17Lou Elizondo has asked former Navy law enforcement officer Sean Cahill to join his UFO investigation to Mexico.
10:23They're following a lead provided by Cahill's shipmate, Kevin Day.
10:28These things were going somewhere.
10:29They fell off my radar envelope down off the coast of Baja, California.
10:33I can tell you the Latin one.
10:35The coordinates lead here, a small, remote Mexican island called Guadalupe.
10:40What I'd really like to see is for us to take the event from 2004 and to show if this
10:45phenomenon has continued post-2004.
10:48Because this is a part of the Nimitz story that not only has never been told, has never really been
10:52explored.
10:54In order to keep his work for the military's UFO unit secret, Elizondo couldn't interview civilian witnesses.
11:00I think there's goodness in casting a wide net, trying to get as many people that we can to come
11:05on record and tell us what they've seen.
11:07My frustration when I was at AATIP was I was always stuck focusing only on military individuals.
11:14This is the first time you've been able to not hide.
11:17Right.
11:17I hate to put it that way, but you don't have to hide behind anything.
11:19You can ask the questions now.
11:21Right.
11:23The journey to Guadalupe Island starts here.
11:27Ensenada, Mexico is a major hub for commercial and tourist fishing.
11:31Elizondo and Cahill want to know if locals here have seen strange things in the sky.
11:37I'm used to speaking with military people who are experts, but I think in the end it comes down to
11:42sheer volume and commonalities.
11:44If you have people that are both trained observers and untrained observers telling you the same thing, there is a
11:50really good possibility that they are both describing a similar event.
11:57They've teamed up with Jordi Labrija, a Mexican journalist who says he's heard stories about unexplained sightings in Baja, California
12:03for years.
12:04So Jordi, who's the gentleman we're going to be meeting today?
12:07He's a pilot and he does a lot of flights to Guadalupe and he has seen crazy things as well.
12:15Labrija set up a meeting with a commercial pilot who spots bluefin tuna for fishermen between the Baja Coast and
12:21Guadalupe.
12:23That's his plane.
12:24Beautiful.
12:26172?
12:26Yes.
12:27What year?
12:2883.
12:29Wow.
12:30It's a beautiful, beautiful bird.
12:33Adrian Ojeda has spent 18 years flying over these waters, but it only took a few seconds to change everything
12:39he knew about aviation.
12:42Thank you again for your time and for your courage.
12:44To come forward.
12:45Thank you because this is something like I don't tell not too many people because they think you're crazy or
12:51you're, you know, but so, yeah.
12:54Please, just start from the beginning.
12:55Yeah, it was January 30, 2015, around 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
13:01This is the first time Ojeda has gone on record about the strange object he saw.
13:05So it was coming around 23 miles south of Encina.
13:10On the afternoon of January 30, 2015, Ojeda says he was flying over the Pacific, just 20 miles northeast from
13:18where two U.S. Navy pilots from the USS Nimitz intercepted a tic-tac-shaped UFO 11 years earlier.
13:25Can you give me a rough understanding of size, shape, color?
13:31I thought at the beginning it was just a ball, but when it goes so close, it was like this
13:36form.
13:37Did you notice if it had any windows, if it had wings, no flight surfaces?
13:42No windows, no wings, no nothing.
13:45Smooth.
13:45Smooth and clean.
13:47Yeah.
13:47Ojeda says the object moved erratically, unlike any aircraft he had ever seen.
13:52When you see an airplane, it goes straight, you know?
13:53But this was kind of like...
13:55He also believes the object reacted to his presence.
13:58It was so far when I just turned the lights, and as soon as I turned the lights, she was...
14:03Right at you.
14:04Straight to me.
14:06So it was...
14:08Around 10 miles, yeah.
14:1010 miles, and then you kick on the lights, and all of a sudden...
14:14Three seconds.
14:15Three seconds.
14:16Three seconds, yeah.
14:17Like that.
14:18Fire.
14:19As he turned on his lights, Ojeda says the object flew straight at him at 12,000 miles an hour,
14:24or more than 15 times the speed of sound.
14:27This pilot really reinforced some of the observables that we've already noticed before.
14:32According to Elizondo, a secret Pentagon investigation cataloged a set of five incredible capabilities the UFOs shared.
14:39He calls them the observables.
14:42Instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocities, just really bizarre behavior, something that you would not expect a traditional aircraft to be able
14:50to do.
14:51Were there any other reports by any other pilots in the area that day of anything strange in the air
14:56that you're aware of?
14:57Not that I know.
14:58Okay.
14:59Was there ever a time prior to this that you've seen anything that you considered unusual?
15:03Before that happened, no.
15:05Okay.
15:05So everything you saw, you could identify, whether it was a satellite, a planet, but in general, you knew.
15:10Yes.
15:11You know what's in the sky.
15:12Yes.
15:12Well, before I thought it was something there.
15:15I mean, I didn't even know.
15:16I mean, I never got any experience before.
15:20I really was excited to have an experience.
15:22Yeah.
15:23But to tell you the truth, with that experience, I don't even want to have another one.
15:27What was your opinion of this before your experience when you heard of other pilots or stories?
15:36Well, to me, I believe that something was there.
15:41I mean, all the proofs that you can see it around or that.
15:45But myself, I didn't see it before, for sure.
15:48And I was kind of like, oh, I hope I can see something.
15:51But it's different to see it right there.
15:52Oh, I can see it.
15:53But the way it happens to me, it was kind of like, how to say, aggressive.
15:58And I feel like, oh, you know, I don't want to have any kind of experience like that.
16:01Because it was, like I said, like, you know, yeah.
16:06Once this object came past your aircraft and you performed evasive maneuvers, then what happened?
16:13I know you were scared, frightened.
16:15What happened?
16:15Oh, well, I just want to go away from as fast as I could.
16:19I don't want to see it anymore.
16:21The way it goes, it was a task, and I look around, and I say, oh, you know, I said,
16:26well, I just want to go.
16:27Well, first of all, I was like surprised because when you, I mean, it was, like, I can't even believe
16:35in myself.
16:35Like, what happened?
16:36I mean, that's real true.
16:38But the most, the way it happened and the way they act, I mean, if I don't move the airplane,
16:45I'll be not here.
16:46That's why it scared me too much.
16:48I mean, like I said, even right now when I fly, if I see another thing, I don't even want
16:52to go even check.
16:54I'm in international waters.
16:55Sometimes I see the carriers and the F-18.
16:57You see those kind of airplanes, in no way it was an aircraft.
17:02Ojeda's 2015 account has an eerie similarity to the U.S. Navy's 2004 Tic-Tac incident.
17:08All of a sudden it goes, and it kind of turns.
17:10We're like, okay, now it knows we're here.
17:13It just rapidly accelerates beyond anything that I've ever seen, crosses my nose, and it's gone.
17:21Have the same craft been flying off the Baja coast for years?
17:28The Baja California Peninsula is known across Mexico as a hotspot for UFO sightings.
17:40For decades, local fishermen have reported strange luminescent objects over the Pacific Ocean.
17:46It's our understanding that you may have seen something very interesting in the water.
18:0999% of all reported sightings have a rational explanation.
18:16Typically, these are things that are man-made or some sort of weather phenomena or atmospheric anomaly.
18:22So, it's imperative we keep a critical eye on every report.
18:27The fishermen may not be trained military observers,
18:30but they all have similar accounts of spherical objects flying in ways they can't explain.
18:36And one part of their story stands out.
18:44In the water.
18:46Yeah.
18:47Coming up on Unidentified.
18:49Where were you when you saw this?
18:52Guadalupe.
18:52In the Guadalupe.
18:53A la isla de Guadalupe.
18:54A fishermen seeing things coming out of the sky and hovering above the water and then splashing into the water.
19:00We've got to get out there.
19:01A la isla de Guadalupe.
19:08A la isla de Guadalupe.
19:12Hey, bueno dia.
19:14Buenas tardes.
19:15Lou Elizondo and Sean Cahill are in Mexico,
19:18investigating one of the most important UFO incidents in the history of the U.S. military,
19:22the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter.
19:27Very nice to meet you, sir.
19:29Thank you for your time.
19:30They're interviewing local fishermen who have seen strange things in the sky and under the water.
19:36From our understanding, you may have some interesting information regarding strange things in or near the water.
19:48Same thing with lights coming out of the water and moving.
19:51Fishermen seeing lights under the water, lights underneath their boat,
19:55things coming out of the sky and floating and hovering above the water and then splashing into the water.
20:00I was struck by some of the similarities, in particular with the Nimitz incident.
20:05In 2004, the Navy pilot who intercepted a tic-tac-shaped UFO first saw churning water below the craft.
20:12My heart sank.
20:13There was something in the water.
20:15And a Navy radar technician says his ship tracked the tic-tac-shaped object,
20:19moving underwater at a high rate of speed.
20:21It went from 30,000 feet down to sea level, and sonar said they got a hit.
20:26They pretty much just went wherever they wanted.
20:28The ability to seamlessly move through water, air, and space, known as transmedium travel,
20:33is one of the five observables Elizondo's secret Pentagon program identified.
20:40These objects seem to be seen a lot around large bodies of water.
20:47These folks, for the most part, are not necessarily trained observers,
20:50but they do know the oceans very well.
20:53And a lot of them are reporting some pretty interesting and, in my opinion, pretty compelling things.
20:58That's like a tic-tac, dude.
21:00Let me ask you, where were you when you saw this?
21:03Guadalupe.
21:04Punta Norte in Isla Guadalupe.
21:08The fishermen all point toward one location, Guadalupe Island,
21:13where senior Navy radar specialist Kevin Day told Elizondo
21:17a fleet of UFOs had disappeared off his radar in 2004.
21:21You see now that's right here. This is the bay right here.
21:24Okay, we've got Guadalupe down here.
21:26One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven different unique incidents.
21:32We've got some amazing data here.
21:33Definitely hotspot.
21:35Guadalupe is calling us.
21:39Guadalupe lies 150 miles off the Baja California coast.
21:44The sparsely populated island is home to a Mexican military weather station
21:48and is surrounded by a restricted marine refuge area teeming with great white sharks.
21:59The next logical step is to get out there and see for ourselves, is there anything unique?
22:03Is there anything underneath the ocean?
22:05The topography, is there anything strange and weird?
22:08We've got to get out there.
22:10I think by going to Guadalupe, we stand to gain more clarity.
22:20Hopefully we can collect some good information, but matters what the facts and the data say.
22:25That's the pursuit. That's what drives me every single day.
22:30We'll probably do about six and a half knots.
22:31Yeah.
22:32You're looking at 175 nautical miles out to where we need to be.
22:35Yeah.
22:36It's going to take us a good 25 hours to get out there.
22:41When was the last time you were in these waters?
22:43You know, I have to do the math on it, but I was in these waters for a number of
22:46years.
22:47Over the course of 2004 all the way to 2007, on and off.
22:52Wow.
22:52Yeah.
22:53This is where the United States Navy on the west coast does a great deal of their training.
22:58We've heard so much about this Guadalupe Island.
23:00I hope we get a chance to talk to as many people as we can, talk to other fishermen,
23:04talk to anybody who's willing to come out and meet us and have a conversation.
23:08I kind of want to consider some of the information that we picked up.
23:10We had circular, spherical objects described.
23:14I hesitate to say saucer, but a lenticular shape.
23:17We had luminous objects.
23:18Right.
23:19Different colors of luminosity.
23:22And we had objects that flew, objects that hovered, and objects that went into the water.
23:27And in some cases, objects that came from the deep up to the surface of the water, i.e. rings
23:32of light.
23:35Unidentified submerged objects, known as USOs, have been reported around the world by civilians and military witnesses for decades.
23:43Allied warships taking part in exercise main brace provided a formidable spectacle.
23:47In 1952, military personnel taking part in a large-scale NATO exercise off Denmark reported seeing strange round craft flying
23:55above and below the water.
23:59The incidents made international headlines.
24:01And ever since, USOs have become part of UFO lore.
24:06We know that there is a geomagnetic anomaly just north of the island, and it is significant.
24:12Adding to the mystery surrounding Guadalupe, a variation in the Earth's magnetic field, known as a magnetic anomaly, lies just
24:20off the island's northern coast.
24:21When you look at the map, there are no magnetic anomalies anywhere within hundreds and hundreds of miles of that
24:30island except two hotspots right north of the island.
24:33Could that have anything to do with what we're seeing? We don't know.
24:58I think we owe it to ourselves to collect more data.
25:03I think it's in our DNA to always search and find the truth, whatever that truth is.
25:09Lou was someone who had come into this issue very skeptical and came out of it almost a religious believer
25:16that,
25:16wow, this stuff is really happening. These are really credible reports from pilots, from other people that are not wacky.
25:23He became someone who felt that it was his job to try and get more senior leaders in the Pentagon
25:29to pay attention to this.
25:31Eventually, maybe get the public to pay attention.
25:38That's amazing.
25:4030 miles away, you can see that thing.
25:42After 20 hours on the open water, Lou Elizondo and Sean Cahill have arrived at Guadalupe Island,
25:48where a U.S. Navy radar specialist reported a fleet of strange craft disappeared off his radar scopes during the
25:552004 USS Nimitz UFO event.
25:59This is the land that time forgot for sure.
26:03Ah, it's just incredible.
26:07Guadalupe was formed millions of years ago when two volcanoes erupted on the ocean floor.
26:13Today it's a marine refuge and access is strictly controlled by the Mexican government.
26:18As foreigners, the team can't step foot on its shores.
26:30But they found a group of fishermen who've seen things they can't explain.
26:40How fast did it take off?
26:43Wow.
26:51He said it was kind of like a ball, like a chrome ball.
26:55Yeah.
26:55When it started to move, it started to move like this.
27:02What color?
27:04White.
27:05Like LED.
27:05Plus LED.
27:12These fishermen had never heard of the Nimitz incident, but their accounts are similar to the U.S. Navy witnesses.
27:20When you come back from fishing and someone sees something like this, do they make fun of the person when
27:25they tell this story?
27:28Most of the people have seen strange things happening, so they're taking it very seriously.
27:33The fishermen take them to the island's rocky north coast, where most of the sightings have occurred.
27:39It's also where a magnetic anomaly lies deep under the ocean.
27:45Wow.
27:46Wow.
27:48I've never seen anything like this.
27:57Elizondo and Cahill want to know if the strange sightings could have a scientific explanation.
28:05How are you?
28:06How are you?
28:07Good to see you again.
28:07Luis, how are you?
28:09How are you?
28:09How are you?
28:10Mauricio Hoyos is a world-renowned marine biologist.
28:14We know your time is valuable.
28:15Thank you very much for spending it with us.
28:18Hoyos has been studying great white sharks on Guadalupe for over 15 years,
28:23and documented what is believed to be the largest great white ever captured on film.
28:31We are here because several people have reported very interesting phenomena in the sky and even underwater,
28:38and we wanted to get your scientific knowledge of these waters.
28:43Well, Guadalupe is a very important place.
28:45Actually, it's the best place to see white sharks in the world.
28:47The visibility of the water is more than 100 feet.
28:50Oh, wow.
28:51And sometimes you get to see more than 33 sharks in one day.
28:54Wow.
28:55How come that these white sharks can't find this island in the middle of nowhere?
28:59And we think that they have these sensors, they are called the ampoule of Lorenzini,
29:02and they can detect the electromagnetic field of the earth.
29:05So we think that they use that in order to get here.
29:08Hoyos believes great white sharks have a special ability to detect electromagnetic signals,
29:13which helps them migrate to the island each year.
29:16I was talking with one of the captains, and he told me that every time that they are coming to
29:21Guadalupe,
29:21he can see that the compass is like moving upward.
29:24That's interesting.
29:25Is there bioluminescence in these waters?
29:28Yeah, actually very close to the shore.
29:31Bioluminescence is a natural phenomenon found in oceans all over the world.
29:35It occurs when a chemical reaction in sea life emits light.
29:38Could this explain the luminescent objects in the water the fishermen of Guadalupe are seeing?
29:43Okay, so do you ever see bioluminescence in circular patterns,
29:48almost like a spotlight coming out of the water?
29:50No.
29:51No.
29:52You have a small submersible, right?
29:54So there's lights on it, I'm sure, for navigation.
29:56Yes.
29:56Could fishermen around the island mistake your submersible for a light under the water?
30:01We have had submersibles just in 2008, and I need a special permit for that.
30:06If the submersible is here, the big boat has to be here.
30:08Ah, okay, so you have a boat nearby.
30:10So it's not isolated out in the middle of the ocean.
30:12No, exactly.
30:13According to Hoyos, there is nothing he knows that can explain what the fishermen of Guadalupe are seeing.
30:18You are a scientist and trained observer.
30:21In our book, that's as good as it gets.
30:24So hearing from you anything that you'd be willing to share with us would be immensely important.
30:29Is there anything you have seen that has been unusual?
30:33Yeah.
30:34And I thought that it was a hallucination, but my captain and I, we saw the same thing.
30:54We have lots of reports from fishermen around the island.
31:07Lou Elizondo and Sean Cahill are more than 100 miles off the coast of Mexico, where a fleet of UFOs
31:12fell off U.S. Navy radar during the USS Nimitz incident in 2004.
31:18In 2006, we started to track white sharks for 24 hours.
31:23Marine biologist Mauricio Hoyos has spent years collecting data on great white sharks.
31:29But he can't explain what he saw early one morning in 2006.
31:33It was like 6 a.m. and we were coming to the north.
31:36And then I saw in that mountain, I saw a little light, like a little sphere.
31:41I thought that it was a star, but suddenly it moved.
31:46I thought, oh my God, I didn't sleep and maybe I am looking at something that is not real.
31:51And then my captain asked me, did you see that?
31:54Could you actually see an object or was it more the light that you could see?
31:58It was like a very bright object. It was like a sphere. I mean, a perfect sphere.
32:02I mean, like maybe in two seconds.
32:03Two seconds.
32:04Two seconds, we didn't see anything.
32:05So it didn't just disappear.
32:07No, it moved.
32:08Yeah, definite sense of movement.
32:09Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:10Very, very fast.
32:11Yeah, yeah.
32:12I know time is limited. Sun's going to be going down.
32:15Don't want to take much more of your time.
32:17Been super, super helpful.
32:19Doctor, thank you so much.
32:20You're very welcome.
32:21It has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you.
32:26It's amazing.
32:28As far back as 2009, the Pacific Ocean off Baja California
32:33was identified by Elizondo's Pentagon program as part of a global pattern of UFO hotspots.
32:39After days on the open water interviewing multiple civilian witnesses,
32:43Elizondo now has evidence of a continuing UFO presence in the area.
32:47The trip to Guadalupe Island was very well worthwhile.
32:52The eyewitness testimony from folks from the Nimitz...
32:54He just rapidly accelerates beyond anything that I've ever seen, and it's gone.
32:58...was corroborated by civilians.
33:02So between Guadalupe Island and Ensenada seems to be a real hotspot.
33:07When you look at the data, the Nimitz was not an isolated event.
33:10In fact, the Nimitz may have just happened to trip over one of these hotspots
33:14when they were doing their maneuvers out there.
33:16It's one of the pieces to the puzzle.
33:19But we would be remiss if we consider it the whole puzzle.
33:23It's not.
33:27The mission to Guadalupe Island provided valuable new information.
33:31But for Elizondo and Cahill, the journey was also personal.
33:35Being part of that incident on the USS Nimitz and now being here 14 years later, right, some time,
33:42talking about a cold case, what's it like?
33:46I gotta be honest with you, man.
33:48I dig it why people don't come forward because it's isolating.
33:52There were 5,000 people on Nimitz.
33:55How many people saw it and aren't willing to come forward?
33:58I know what I saw.
33:59Even if I don't know what it is, I know I saw it.
34:02It was on tape. It was on radar.
34:03I mean, that boosts me.
34:07We don't have all the answers yet, but we know it's real.
34:13This had affected Sean profoundly.
34:15He didn't talk about it much because, quite frankly,
34:18he thought people were going to look at him like he was crazy.
34:21Do you know what it's like to serve your country, to swear an oath of loyalty,
34:25only to have someone come out and say, you're crazy?
34:30You know, who?
34:35I've spent my life living in the shadows.
34:37I've put myself out there voluntarily,
34:40so I've got no one to blame but me.
34:43I have people who question my credibility at every turn.
34:47I want so badly to show people what I've seen and what I know,
34:51but I can't because I have a nondisclosure agreement with the U.S. government.
34:56It's very frustrating for me because I know this is real.
35:04When you look at some of the other incidents over time
35:07that we've collected back in ATIP,
35:08we continue to see the same pattern over and over and over again.
35:12Elizondo is back in the States, briefing the team on his trip to Mexico.
35:16More people are bringing information and cases to us, military and civilian people,
35:21and I think this kind of data and information is beginning to make a difference as we're bringing it forward.
35:27As former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence,
35:31Chris Mellon knows how difficult it is for military personnel to come forward with stories of UFO encounters.
35:37Those people in the military at these lower-level operational ranks are also swimming upstream,
35:43trying to get people's attention and say, hey, we've got a genuine issue here, people.
35:47We need to take action.
35:48And I'm delighted that we're able to assist them in doing that.
35:53But it's not only the military personnel involved in the incidents who have been silenced.
35:57I would much rather put this behind me, but the problem is I've seen too much.
36:03I've talked to too many people. I have too many reports. I know it's real.
36:07I can't in good conscience just keep my head buried in the sand.
36:10I had to leave the very job that I love to get my point across.
36:17The trip to Mexico was a bit of a revelation for us.
36:21Certainly when I was in ATIP, there was no way I would have been able to go into a foreign
36:25country
36:25and start asking questions about this thing. There's no way that would have happened.
36:29Lou Elizondo has new evidence that he believes confirms an ominous pattern.
36:34The Pacific Ocean off Southern California and Mexico is a hot spot for unidentified craft with incredible capabilities.
36:41If it's okay with you, I'm going to go ahead and provide you his information.
36:44The newfound freedom to bring information directly to the public is a victory for Elizondo.
36:50ATIP had a small group of allies, but equally there was a small group of people who were diametrically opposed
36:57and became increasingly vocal about their opposition to what we were doing.
37:02Elizondo spent 10 years studying reports of military encounters with UFOs.
37:09But according to Elizondo, getting anyone inside the Pentagon to pay attention to what he was finding was a daily
37:15struggle.
37:22This intelligence officer worked closely with Elizondo at the Pentagon and saw firsthand the challenges he faced.
37:28When I found out Lou was resigning, I was personally very upset.
37:32This is my friend, my coworker, a mentor, somebody that I truly believed in.
37:37Because she continues to work for the Department of Defense, she wants to remain anonymous.
37:42Lou sees things in patterns and he sees the analytic piece behind putting all of this puzzle together and what
37:50the various outcomes could be.
37:52Unfortunately, he had to work through layers of bureaucracy that you would only read about in 1960s Russia.
37:59It doesn't matter what administration it is. It doesn't matter who's in charge.
38:03It's just, oh, this is going to get very messy very quickly. I'm going to pass it along.
38:09The government, I believe, doesn't know what to do. They don't know how to address this.
38:14Help us understand how is it that the people who are entrusted with some of the most dangerous missions,
38:20when they write a report that that is not taken seriously.
38:23If you're pursuing this and very vocal and very public about it, you won't have a career.
38:29And that's been stated. It's been proven. There is no question that it's dangerous.
38:34Are you scared yourself about your own career and your own proximity to this issue?
38:42I can answer that question.
38:44Fear of being called crazy wasn't the only roadblock to getting Pentagon leadership to care about the issue.
38:51Some officials that I talked to told me that they thought there was resistance in the Pentagon on religious grounds,
38:57that effectively you had some senior officers who were Christians who thought looking into this kind of voodoo stuff was
39:06dangerous.
39:07I was pulled into the office of one of these seniors. The senior looked at me in the eye and
39:11said,
39:11I want this program to stop. He said, well, okay, but what's the rationale?
39:16And he said, well, what you are looking at is something that is a demonic presence.
39:23There's a faction in the government high up in the Pentagon of religious fundamentalists
39:27who are concerned that anything paranormal or supernatural is demonic in origin,
39:33that flying saucers represent demons, that if you study this, that you're inviting the devil and Satan into your world.
39:42You're telling me to ignore it because it goes against your philosophical belief system.
39:48Well, that's the same I face in Afghanistan and in the Middle East.
39:52There's no difference. Only you're wearing a three piece suit and they're carrying a Kalashnikov.
39:57So I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
40:00Elizondo says his superior's religious beliefs hindered his mission to get the government to take UFOs seriously.
40:06But he and other government insiders, including former presidential advisor John Podesta,
40:12believe the larger political culture is to blame.
40:14There's a natural tendency to just kind of sweep the question away and to avoid the taboo.
40:22We've created a culture where you really can't do what any scientist would want to do,
40:29any skeptic in the best sense of the word saying, well, maybe we ought to know about it.
40:35So imagine this for a moment.
40:37Your job is to give the boss recommended solutions.
40:42Imagine going now to the boss.
40:45Sir, we have something. We don't know what it is.
40:48We don't know how it works. We don't know who's behind the wheel.
40:51We don't know what their intentions are. And by the way, there's not a damn thing we can do about
40:55it.
40:56By 2017, Elizondo had become so concerned that whatever these craft were,
41:01the U.S. military had no way to defend itself against their advanced technology.
41:05So he tried to send a warning up the chain of command.
41:08I realized that none of the information and developments that we had in our program in AATIP
41:14was being communicated to the Secretary of Defense.
41:19Elizondo believed the threat was so great that it required the attention of then Secretary of Defense, James Mattis.
41:26There are five people I can count on this hand, that if they were to call me at 4 o
41:32'clock in the morning,
41:33I would put my boots on and I'd go to war with them.
41:37Secretary Mattis is number one.
41:39He is truly one of the greatest Americans I've ever had the honor and pleasure to serve with and for.
41:45Despite being one of the military's most experienced counterintelligence operatives,
41:49even fighting alongside Mattis in Afghanistan in the months after 9-11,
41:53every attempt to get a meeting with the Secretary of Defense was thwarted.
41:57In this particular case, you had a lot of people that were worried about their political careers.
42:01I attended some meetings that Lou was president at, trying to see how he could be helpful.
42:05And this actually led to meetings with these senior people who were very close to General Mattis.
42:10And they were very sympathetic, but they did not see a way ahead.
42:13They did not see how they could get this by the Praetorian Guard around the Secretary.
42:18This is a man who's responsible for the safety and security of our country.
42:22And if you don't give him the information he needs, that is ammunition in order for him to make a
42:28right decision.
42:30Despite our best efforts, we were not successful in actually getting this issue in front of the Secretary
42:35and letting him evaluate the evidence himself.
42:39We've got a problem internally. We've got blinders on.
42:42And if we've got blinders on, baby, you're going to get blindsided.
42:48On the next Unidentified.
42:50There's a whole fleet of them looking on the NSA.
42:53You know those voices? I know those guys, yeah.
42:54We're just trying to figure out what were the objects that we saw.
42:57I've always kind of been somewhat skeptical.
42:59I'm a lot more convinced now these vehicles do exist.
43:04It was basically a cube inside of a sphere.
43:07Over 60 people have seen these things.
43:09If people in the D.C. area knew within minutes of their location these unidentified vehicles are operating,
43:16I think they would say, isn't this something we ought to pay attention to?
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