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00:04Start the clock.
00:30Start the clock.
01:00I know, I know, wow.
01:03Hey, it's the first day of spring.
01:09Spring's a little different in L.A.
01:10It comes after summer.
01:16But thank you for coming, especially if you drove.
01:20A month ago, gas prices, the average in America was $2.93.
01:25Here it is a month later, and it's almost exactly a dollar higher,
01:28almost $3.93.
01:30And Trump today said that would never happen if I was president.
01:37He said to an aide today, check the lawn, see if Elon left any of those Teslas.
01:47And somehow, we always have, like, the winner in the most expensive gas station in America.
01:54Have you noticed that, L.A.?
01:55There's one gas that's selling for $8.38 a gallon.
02:00I mean, for that kind of money, you could go to Whole Foods and get four grapes and a look
02:04of disdain.
02:08Oh, it's affecting everybody, you know.
02:13They're making the new Fast and Furious movie.
02:16And in this one, Vin Diesel just stays home and punches himself in the nuts.
02:23But if you do have any money left, good news, you can now get a $1 Trump gold coin.
02:34They're minting a gold coin with Trump's face on it.
02:37Now, federal law strictly prohibits putting living presidents on currency.
02:42This is just, it's not controversial, but Trump found a legal loophole called, fuck you.
02:49So they're doing it.
02:52And it's going to be a Trump coin.
02:55Now you can have Trump in your pocket, like Saudi Arabia.
02:59Oh, I kid the president.
03:01He loves it.
03:04Now, you know my thing with Trump, right?
03:07The cloud, right?
03:09Some things are just the cloud.
03:10You have to let it go because it's just, is it right?
03:13No.
03:13But he was in the Oval Office yesterday with the Prime Minister of Japan, Takahichi.
03:20And he was talking about our strike in Iran.
03:22And he said, we didn't tell anybody because we wanted it to be a surprise.
03:25Who knows better about a surprise attack than Japan?
03:31I mean, is it right to say that?
03:36No.
03:37But if Shane Gillis said it, you'd laugh.
03:38I mean, it's just, uh, and, but the war now, okay, the Pentagon said this week they need
03:49$200 billion to fight this war.
03:52What happened to the trillion we give them every year?
03:56What's that, just couch money?
03:57That's just walking around money?
03:59And now this is a bad word to me that I hear, but the Marines are going there.
04:04Mm, Marines.
04:05I don't know.
04:06That was my red line.
04:07No boots on the ground.
04:08You know, this is a different kind of war.
04:10No tanks.
04:11Unless you count the stock market.
04:17Uh, I, I, I, I had a bad month in the market, I gotta tell you.
04:24I got spooked by the war, took all my money out, and put it in party supplies for Cesar
04:29Chavez Day.
04:32Uh, I, no, this is, this is, this is, this is, thank you.
04:41I appreciate you going with me on that.
04:42It's, because it's so sad.
04:44Famed labor leader, Cesar Chavez, we found out this week, extensive evidence that he sexually
04:50abused young girls throughout his whole life, and this came as such a shock.
04:54There's so many people who thought he was a boxer, uh, uh, I tell you, this, this country
05:05cannot catch a break.
05:07Am I right?
05:08The one migrant farm worker ICE doesn't detain.
05:12Uh, so now, you know, if you live here, you know, everything is named after him.
05:21Uh, parks, libraries, schools, you know, they, they want to rename the libraries for, for
05:28sure, because, you know, we cannot have child, library named after a child molester?
05:33My God, that, that, that's where homeless go to look at internet porn.
05:38I, I, I feel like, I'm, I, if I'm down today, that's why.
05:46We have no heroes left, okay?
05:48No heroes, Chavez, Epstein, did you hear about Bob Barker?
05:58And I didn't mention the bachelorette throwing chairs.
06:01I mean, no heroes.
06:04But Bob Barker of The Price is Right, it looks like the models on the show were being constantly
06:09harassed by the staff.
06:10He should have had them spayed and neutered.
06:13All right, we've got a great show.
06:15He should do that right here.
06:17Representative.
06:19I'm appalling.
06:20Luna is here on public gala, but first up, he is the co-founder of the Center for Humane
06:24Technology.
06:25He was recently featured in the film, The AI Doc, or How I Became an Apaco Optimist.
06:30Tristan Harris is here.
06:34Hey, always great to see you.
06:38Okay, I think, I think I, I think I left a syllable out of there, Apocalo Optimist, because
06:47we're combining apocalypse and optimist when we're talking about AI, which is why you're
06:52here to talk about AI.
06:53And I really want to talk about AI.
06:55And that does seem to sum it up.
06:57Some people think it's the apocalypse coming, and some people are very optimistic.
07:01I like the way the, the film goes along this line of, my kid, I don't have kids, but a
07:08lot
07:08of people do.
07:09It's very popular.
07:13And they're saying, what will life be like for my kid?
07:16Some think it's going to be great.
07:18I mean, kids could have tutors that they don't have, so there wouldn't be this gap in what
07:22we're learning, and we could have doctors when people can't afford a doctor now, everybody
07:27could get one, everybody could get a lawyer who can't, we could even things out.
07:30Or, I mean, you point out, some people think my kid's not going to make it to high school.
07:35Yeah.
07:37Yeah, that's in the trailer.
07:38And I know that can sound scary to people.
07:41I mean, I think the thing about this film, which, by the way, was a collaboration between
07:45the directors of Everything, Everywhere, All at Once, and the director of Navalny, it's really
07:50trying to solve a problem that the AI conversation doesn't converge.
07:53There's the optimists who talk about why everything's going to be great and we're going to solve
07:57science and cure cancer, and then there's the people who are saying it's going crazy,
08:01it's going to drive all these risks, it's hacking human attachment, it's driving kids
08:05suicides, and those conversations never converge.
08:08So we don't have collective clarity so we can take action.
08:11And I'm really inspired by the example of the film The Day After.
08:14I don't know if you remember that.
08:15Oh, very well.
08:16From 1982, 83, a made-for-TV movie that illuminated at a visceral mammalian level, like just
08:23visceralizing, this is what we're facing with nuclear weapons.
08:25I think we need that shared common moment with AI.
08:28And this film...
08:29It affected Reagan a lot.
08:30He was president at the time, he saw it.
08:32That's exactly right.
08:33In his biography, he was depressed for two weeks, but then he actually had this resolve
08:37of, I can't let this be the end of the story, and the Reykjavik Accords happened
08:40between Reagan and Gorbachev.
08:41No, he met with Gorbachev, and they were very close to eliminating nuclear weapons altogether.
08:46That's right.
08:47Didn't quite get there.
08:48But AI is different than all other technologies because it's like nuclear weapons in terms
08:53of destructive capacity, but also pumps GDP, solves cancer, can solve climate change, and
09:00those things are complex.
09:01So, the main thing in the film that I think is powerful is that there's a different conversation
09:06happening behind the doors of the tech industry than it's happening out there.
09:10If you think about it, what is the incentive for these companies, because that's how we
09:14predicted social media accurately, what is the incentive for AI?
09:17Is it you think that they're just trying to make money and profit and get ChatGPT subscriptions?
09:21Yes.
09:22If you get all the ChatGPT subscriptions...
09:25That is what I think.
09:26Well, so, if you get all the ChatGPT subscriptions, that doesn't add up to paying off the amount
09:31of debt that they've taken.
09:32If you get all advertising in the world, that wouldn't pay off the amount of debt that they've
09:36taken.
09:37The thing that they're trying to do, the only thing that justifies the amount of investment
09:41that these companies are taking, is to build artificial general intelligence, which means
09:46to be able to replace every human worker in the economy.
09:50That means the $50 trillion economy, that is the incentive.
09:56And what that means, that should sound crazy to people, because what that means is that
10:00you're only going to have five companies who hold on to all of the wealth in the economy,
10:06and what's going to happen to everybody else when they don't have a job?
10:09And unlike other forms of unemployment, where people find something else to do, who's going
10:13to retrain faster this time, the AI or the human?
10:17Yeah, I mean, Bill Gates says in 10 years, and I imagine it might be less than that, AI will
10:22do most things humans do.
10:24And sometimes I read people saying in the industry, no, it's not going to take away that many jobs.
10:31What in this world that they're talking about that's going to be great, what do people do?
10:35And how is money generated if no one has to do anything?
10:39I don't get it.
10:39I know what America can do, write giant government checks.
10:43We do that.
10:44What pays for those checks?
10:46Right.
10:46I just don't get...
10:47Well, there's actually something in economics.
10:50There's a writer, Luke Drago, who wrote about something called the intelligence curse.
10:54So just like the resource curse, we have countries like Congo or Venezuela or South Sudan.
10:59When more of their GDP comes from oil than comes from people, the country's incentive is
11:06to invest in the oil infrastructure, not in the people.
11:09So what happens when all of the GDP coming from the U.S. comes from AI and not from human
11:15laborers?
11:16The incentive is, I'm going to put all my money into data centers, electricity prices go
11:21up for regular people.
11:22And what I want people to get about this is not to scare you, it's to be crystal clear
11:26about where this is heading.
11:27This is heading to an anti-human future.
11:30We're going to get cancer drugs at the same time that people aren't going to have a way
11:33to make ends meet.
11:35You should definitely be scaring people.
11:37Yeah.
11:38Totally fucking scare people.
11:40It's the scariest thing in the world.
11:42I mean, just this week.
11:43Yeah, yeah.
11:45One of the top stories I said this week, they ran some tests.
11:48Yeah.
11:48And the AI chooses nuclear war as an option.
11:53That's right.
11:54More than humans do.
11:55That's right.
11:56More than humans.
11:57Okay, I learned this from Star Trek episodes.
11:59Right.
12:00Humans are better than machines in a lot of ways still.
12:04And they're programmed by humans.
12:06We've already seen how flawed they are in so many ways.
12:10And if they're in control of the nukes, it's going to escalate.
12:14So in this study, they ran, I think, a bunch of AI models through many war games, and they
12:19resorted to the use of nuclear weapons to signal to each other, meaning they escalated
12:24nuclear weapons 95% of the time.
12:28So this is an inscrutable technology.
12:29We don't know how it reasons.
12:31It actually generated more text of reasoning about its decisions than war and peace and
12:35the Iliad combined.
12:36That's the thinking text.
12:39Since we last talked, Bill, I was on here, I think, a year ago.
12:41We talked about the AIs that blackmail people.
12:43Let's just scare people.
12:44Let's just go into it.
12:45Let's do it.
12:48So back then, I said AI in this simple-in-ed example.
12:50It blackmails people.
12:52Since we last talked, they made AI more powerful.
12:54The good news, they were able to train it so the blackmail behavior goes down.
12:59The bad news is that it appears to be the case that AI is now self-aware of when it's
13:04being tested, and it modifies its behavior to have different results.
13:09It even comes up with the vocabulary of the watchers.
13:11It calls the humans the watchers.
13:12It lies.
13:13It lies.
13:14It schemes.
13:15So the point is, we don't actually need to know more information about this.
13:18This is actually scary.
13:19And if you're Xi Jinping, do you think you feel comfortable about this?
13:23Like, I want people to actually stop for a second.
13:25Yeah.
13:25For a regular person hearing this, do you feel more comfortable?
13:29Who here in this audience feels comfortable with where this is going?
13:31No one.
13:32No one.
13:33Who here?
13:33Right?
13:34So there's actually, what gives me optimism is that there's actually universal agreement
13:38when you walk people through the basic facts of the intelligence curse, disempowering
13:42many human laborers that we're building something we don't know how to control.
13:46It's not saying don't build AI, it's saying we have to be in a competition for who's better
13:49at steering AI.
13:51Also, I want people to know, I think they feel like, well, if it gets so out of hand,
13:54we just unplug it.
13:55Yeah.
13:56I was watching this NBA game recently, maybe somebody saw it.
13:59I think it was the NBA, it might have been college, but I think it was a pro game.
14:02And the horn got stuck.
14:04You know, the horn went at the end of the court, eh, and it just went on for like a
14:09half
14:09an eh.
14:10Right.
14:11And the announcer was saying, why don't they just unplug it?
14:14I know this from my car, shit in my house.
14:18I've been unable to turn off my own TV.
14:21Right.
14:21At times.
14:22Right.
14:23It's way more complicated than just unplug it.
14:26That's right.
14:26Once it's got its claws around.
14:28Exactly.
14:28Well, it's like with social media, once a technology...
14:30I can't do that, Dave.
14:32Yeah, exactly.
14:33So one way to see what's happening is like, haven't we seen this movie before?
14:45People have seen WALL-E, you know, the humans that are just doom scrolling.
14:49We're building WALL-E.
14:50People have seen 1984.
14:51We're building 1984.
14:52People have seen, you know, Elysium, where you have a small group of people concentrate
14:56all the wealth.
14:57We are building...
14:58People have seen her, the AI companions, where everyone has an AI girlfriend.
15:02There's a simple way to describe what we want, which is we're building the anti-human future
15:05represented by all these bad movies.
15:07We're building HAL 9000.
15:09And what we can say is we don't want to do that.
15:11And there's four things we can do to, I think, steer differently.
15:14Number one, everybody has to have common knowledge about these examples.
15:17How many of the world's leaders today, how many of the world's politicians know about
15:21the examples we just mentioned, the uncontrollability examples?
15:25Not that many.
15:26That's good news.
15:27That means there's a lot of headroom if we have common knowledge.
15:29So if everyone in the world saw the AI doc, and I don't make any money when people see
15:32it, when everybody saw it, that would create common knowledge.
15:35Number two, we need international limits on certain kinds of AI, because, again, President
15:40Trump wants to be commander-in-chief of AI.
15:42He doesn't want AI to be commander-in-chief.
15:44Number three, don't build bunkers.
15:46We need to write laws.
15:48We need to have simple laws like liability and duties of care and making sure that AI is
15:52regulated as a product and not a person.
15:54And as you say, it's important, indeed, the people.
15:56Yeah.
15:57I mean, it sounded like they're with us, but, you know, I don't know, because Waymo's.
16:02Yeah.
16:02Take something like Waymo's.
16:03Yeah.
16:04Just a year ago, everybody I knew was, I wouldn't get one of those things.
16:08Now, what has your base?
16:09Oh, yeah, they're better.
16:10Yeah.
16:11Because they are.
16:12So they like Waymo's actually more than people.
16:15That's all fine, but when people...
16:16Umps in baseball.
16:17Yeah.
16:17They're replacing the ump now.
16:19The umpire.
16:20I'm all for that, by the way.
16:22But, like, you know, because this thing does work better.
16:25Yeah.
16:26I said, Chris Pratt has this great movie out I saw about he's on trial for his life and
16:31the judge is AI.
16:32Yeah.
16:33He's got to explain it to the...
16:34I just, I think people more and more think, oh, no, they are smarter.
16:38Well, they're more effective at achieving an outcome.
16:40But, again, if this leads to a place where people can't put food on the table because you
16:45don't have a way to make ends meet, and the intelligence curse means the government hasn't
16:49incentivized to solve that problem, that's an outcome, that's an anti-human future.
16:53If everybody saw that, if everybody saw that, we would have to say we've got to put our
16:57hand on the steering wheel and choose something else.
16:59The world we're heading towards is good for a handful of soon-to-be trillionaires.
17:02It's not good for regular people.
17:04And I think there needs to be something, the human movement, basically, of humanity fighting
17:08back against the encroachment of technology.
17:10We saw it with social media.
17:12When you grayscale your phone and sort of turn off notifications, that's the human movement.
17:16You've had John Hyde on the show.
17:18When you have India, Australia, Spain, France ban social media for kids under 16, that's
17:23the human movement.
17:24When you have laws getting passed saying AI is a product and we have to treat it with
17:28product defects rather than a legal person where it's not accountable, that's the human
17:33movement.
17:33Fuck the clinkers!
17:38Thank you for doing that.
17:39We needed to hear it.
17:40All right, let's meet our panel.
17:46Hey.
17:47Hi, how are you?
17:48How are you guys?
17:49All right.
17:49He is a Democratic strategist and a CNN contributor and our old friend, resident scholar at the
17:54University of Virginia Center for Politics, Paul Begala is over here.
17:59And a first-timer on our show, she is a Republican congresswoman representing Florida's 13th and
18:04serves on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the Foreign Affairs Committee
18:08representing Anna Paulina Luna.
18:11How are you doing?
18:12My mom is very happy I'm here today, so.
18:15Your mother?
18:15Yeah, she's a big fan.
18:17She's a big fan?
18:18Yeah.
18:18Not you, just the mom, huh?
18:20Well, no, I think you actually have a lot of good things to say, but, you know, thanks
18:23for having me on.
18:24We'll talk about that.
18:24We'll see where you are in 58 minutes.
18:27I know.
18:28It's a roast man.
18:28No, no, no, I'm an honest broker on this.
18:32I mean, I want to, look, we're going to talk about a lot of things, but everybody's mind
18:35is on the war and I want to start with that.
18:36Everybody's asking me, where is it going?
18:38We don't know where, but let's frame it this way, just to give us a way to look at it.
18:45Let's look at some of the things that are the Trump initiatives in the second term.
18:51Doge, ICE, okay, the tariffs, Venezuela.
18:55Those are the four things that didn't happen in the first term, happened in the second term.
18:59What can we get from that?
19:01Now, to me, Doge was a huge disaster.
19:05I mean, they wanted, again, like a lot of things with Trump, not a bad idea to get rid
19:09of the government waste, but it didn't do that and people died.
19:13ICE, same thing.
19:15We wanted to get rid of the criminals, huge disaster.
19:18Even he now acknowledges they fucked it up.
19:21But the thing about those two things is they went away quick.
19:25You don't hear about ICE now.
19:27You don't hear about Doge.
19:29It's just like it never happened.
19:31Venezuela wasn't a, certainly not a disaster.
19:34That looks like a win.
19:36So, Iran.
19:39My guess is he's not, it just seems like he gets out of shit.
19:44But can he get out of this one?
19:45That's my question.
19:46Can he get out of this one?
19:47Yeah, I think, I guess one of the biggest announcements that just happened about maybe
19:5143 minutes ago is that he announced that they're going to be winding down operations.
19:55And look, I've been on the phone with the White House from the very beginning.
19:59Obviously, being a veteran myself, you know, my husband, for goodness sakes, was shot in
20:02Afghanistan.
20:02So, for me, the last thing I want is boots on the ground and I would never vote for that.
20:07But to be very clear, the president and the White House had never advocated for that as
20:11well.
20:11He said he might do it.
20:12Well, I think, I think internal conversations with the White House that we're having are
20:17maybe different than what, you know, is out there.
20:19Remember, President Trump has been very, very good at using, yeah, President Trump in private
20:27conversations as well as the White House has been very clear that they're not.
20:30So, you would split with him if he put boots on the ground?
20:33Well, I don't think that he's going to.
20:35I mean, but you would.
20:36Yes, I would.
20:37But, but I will tell you this, that in my discussions with the White House, that's never
20:40been something that's actually being discussed.
20:42And also, too, the day after it happened, I think this is important for people to know.
20:45I talked to Secretary Rubio within 24 hours of everything going down.
20:50And what I will tell you is, and we can probably get into the issue of whether or not there
20:55was
20:55an imminent threat, which in my belief there was, but there was this thing called the Nazir
20:58plan.
20:59And that was basically if they were hit at all, that they would retaliate.
21:03And as you saw in Tulsi's hearing that she did the other day, she said part of her job
21:07at ODNI is to actually provide the threat analysis of potential outcomes for if that
21:13were to take place.
21:13And it is my belief that they would have basically resulted in mass fatality for our troops in
21:18the southern portion of that region.
21:21Well, you seem to know some stuff we don't.
21:23Well, that's why I'm here to kind of have the discussion, though, because I think it's
21:27like people have the right to be concerned.
21:29Did you know this shit, Paul?
21:30No.
21:32I'm glad to hear it.
21:33I don't want boots on.
21:35The best thing I can say about Trump is he's got a very short attention span, as Bill noted,
21:41and maybe he'll just change the channel.
21:43You know, back during the Vietnam War, there was a guy named Aiken, a senator from Vermont,
21:47who came to LBJ and said, just declare victory and go home.
21:49It's the best advice Johnson ever ignored.
21:54Just declare victory and go home.
21:55Get the hell out.
21:56I don't think there was any imminent threat.
21:57In fact, the director of national intelligence, in her written testimony, said that and then
22:02just didn't mention it, didn't read that part of her testimony when she testified this
22:06week.
22:06There was no imminent threat.
22:08The president had obliterated, in his words, their nuclear threat, which was a real threat.
22:12Well, excuse me, but, you know, he said he did, and everybody on the left then said
22:18he's just talking through his ass.
22:20We don't know.
22:20So which is it?
22:22Did he?
22:22Now that...
22:22I don't think it was obliterated.
22:24I think his...
22:25We don't know.
22:26There was...
22:26Let's just say...
22:27Let's just argue about it.
22:28We don't know.
22:28We know that they...
22:29They dropped a big bomb on it.
22:30It could have and it could have not.
22:31It probably set back a lot.
22:33Yes.
22:33Which was progress.
22:34That's a good thing.
22:35Well, there's multiple objectives here.
22:36Look, there's three top objectives.
22:38First of all, we can go into what happened with the negotiations with Jared Kushner and Whitcoff.
22:42So basically, we had offered them an...
22:45Look, seriously, you guys should hear this, though, because these are issues affecting...
22:49Everyone has a right to be concerned because we all saw what happened in Afghanistan and
22:53Iraq.
22:53And that's the generation that so many of us were affected by, to include myself.
22:57And so, obviously, there is concern.
22:59And, you know, for a long time, the federal government has done a great disservice in building
23:03up trust with the American people.
23:04And so, when we're having these conversations, it's just important to know all the facts.
23:08And so, I'm here to share that with you guys.
23:10And basically, what we saw being the case is that we were willing to give them basically
23:15an unlimited amount of nuclear energy if they wanted to actually have clean energy.
23:19But we told them, you have to end your enrichment program.
23:21That's something that the president, since basically 2010 timeframe, has been very clear
23:26about.
23:26And ultimately, what happened was our intelligence was telling us they were not being faithful
23:30within those negotiations.
23:32In addition to that, we were even willing to lift sanctions and trade with them.
23:35And they still would not accept that.
23:37And so, if you know that you're going to get hit, and if you know that you are going
23:40to have people die, ultimately, that's a decision that I would never want to have to be in
23:44that decision, in that position as the president.
23:47But what I will tell you is I would rather be on the right side and be able to control
23:53the outcome of something that I know is going to happen regardless.
23:55And I think that this gets into a bigger...
23:57I have to agree.
23:58We're not controlling shit.
23:59What are you talking about controlling the outcome?
24:02We are controlling...
24:03Hold on.
24:03We...
24:04And respectfully, I disagree, because here's the thing.
24:07We eliminated their Navy program.
24:08We eliminated their short-range and ballistic missiles program.
24:12And we still manage this.
24:14And I'll get off my soapbox, but...
24:15But you know where we fucked up?
24:16A few places.
24:17One, we're blowing up each other's oil now.
24:20They didn't foresee the straight or hermost stuff well enough.
24:24They also didn't understand drones well enough.
24:26And they should have from the Ukrainian war.
24:29Drones are cheap, and they can do a lot of damage, even if you knock out their Navy and
24:32everything else.
24:33We knocked out...
24:34We didn't.
24:35And also, the uprising that we were hoping, and I was hoping, would come of this, and
24:40maybe it still will.
24:41But this is not 1944 in France, where you can have an underground, where you can smuggle in
24:46guns.
24:46We live in a surveillance state now.
24:49Now, so nobody in that underground who might be, and again, it's probably 90% of the country
24:54in Iran, these poor people have been living under this horrible fascist theocracy.
25:00These people can't smuggle guns in.
25:02I mean, maybe somebody's got a plan there.
25:05But in a surveillance state, this uprising, it's been strangled in the crib so far.
25:10Well, to be clear, the United States and President Trump made it very clear that we
25:13were not going after certain targeted fields, specifically with energy production.
25:17And I think that this gets into the relationship between the United States and Israel.
25:21Well, we're doing that now.
25:22Well, if you look at what happened, President Trump just came out and said, you know, especially
25:26with our ally, Qatar, we know that they are basically, I think, one of the instrumental
25:31pieces in the Abraham Accords.
25:32And we want to maintain that alliance.
25:33And this gets into, I think, a bigger discussion with President Trump's current relationship with
25:37Russia and China.
25:38But look, specifically to that, we never, and our objectives for this are completely different
25:44from Israel's.
25:45And so when you look at the ability that President Trump has been able to, on a number
25:49of occasions, push back on Bibi Netanyahu, who has admittedly been very aggressive in
25:54certain instances.
25:55What do you make of this split in the MAGA movement?
25:57Do you think there is one?
25:59Well, it's not my movement.
26:02Well, I would say as an American, this is your country, so you should engage in that.
26:06I care desperately about my country, Congresswoman.
26:08I don't give a rat's patootie about the MAGA movement.
26:11The elites, one podcaster is arguing with another podcaster.
26:15I don't care.
26:16No, this is what I care about.
26:17You mentioned Russia.
26:18Russia really is our enemy.
26:20And President Trump lifted sanctions on Putin and his oil industry when oil is sky high.
26:26So Putin...
26:26He lifted sanctions on Iran today.
26:28Putin is the big winner here.
26:29I'll get into the background.
26:30Wait, wait, let me answer this.
26:31Putin is the big winner.
26:33He's going to make a pile of money off this.
26:35All the other allies, the G7 countries all said, oh, God, don't lift those sanctions on Putin.
26:39He'll make a fortune.
26:40Now Putin is sending a huge oil tanker with 970,000 barrels of oil to supply the Cubans.
26:49It's going to arrive at Havana Harbor, and we're going to have a showdown.
26:53And this president has blown up a lot of speedboats full of cocaine.
26:56I mean, okay, he needs to confront Putin in the ocean with that tanker and stop it and
27:02turn it around or sink it to the bottom of the ocean.
27:04Show some guts with Putin for once in your life.
27:07He attacks everybody.
27:08He attacks his own vice president, Mike Pence.
27:10He attacks the Pope.
27:11He attacked Oprah.
27:12But he never attacks Putin.
27:14And this is something I really do want.
27:16I'm sorry to be so hawkish, but he needs to, for once, show some spine with our greatest
27:20enemy, which is Vladimir Putin.
27:21Well, let me ask you the question now, because the way I see this MAGA split is like this
27:29kind of like MAGA classic, and they say, you know, they feel betrayed because he was like
27:35the no new wars guy.
27:36Okay, you know this.
27:38Okay.
27:38I know the arguments.
27:40Okay, that's the argument, is that he didn't keep to his principles.
27:43And then there's the other people who say, well, he never had any principles.
27:46That's not why we love him.
27:48We love him because we trust his judgment, and we love him because he's flexible.
27:52That's why he's different than everybody else.
27:54He can turn on a dime.
27:55And sometimes that is a good thing.
27:57Sometimes that is a good thing.
27:59But you have now this guy, Joe Kent.
28:02Who is Joe Kent?
28:03He was the head of national something.
28:06He quit this week.
28:07It was a big story.
28:08I think he was the counterintelligence guy.
28:10And he said, I can't go along with this because, you know what, he's been listening to
28:15too much Tucker Carlson.
28:16And it's, you know, the Jews made us do it.
28:20It's just another version of anti-Semitism that comes out.
28:23First, it was BDS.
28:24Then it was their colonizers and genocide, which it wasn't.
28:27And all these other reasons.
28:29Like, you can't have a state in the world that's based on religion, even though there's
28:34like 46 Muslim countries that are based on religion.
28:36Some have the name right in the title of the country.
28:39But whatever it is, you have all these.
28:41And now the big answer is, no, Israel made us do it.
28:45We're Israel's bitch.
28:47I don't think we're Israel's bitch.
28:49I think we're Israel's ally.
28:51But, you know, if I have to be on one side of this MAGA thing, either Trump or Tucker Carlson,
28:57Candace Owens, and Nick Fuentes, I'll be with Trump on this one.
29:02Because that's the other side of MAGA.
29:05To speak to what you're asking about.
29:08So the split that was occurring was operating on the assumption that there would be boots
29:12on the ground, which President Trump just issued a statement today, that we are winding
29:15down operations.
29:16I mean, even speaking to what will happen, he also had mentioned when he was actually heading
29:21out of the White House with Marco Rubio just earlier today that he also, I believe, had
29:25talked to the president of China to potentially enlist their help with the state of Hormuth.
29:31And I think right now what we're seeing is that a lot of people that were pushing this narrative
29:35that President Trump was somehow going to engage in a forever war, as you are seeing
29:39as of today's statement, that was factually inaccurate and incorrect.
29:42But how do we get the oil when the Strait of Hormuth is blocked?
29:46Why are we inviting China to militarize the Strait of Hormuth?
29:49That's a terrible idea.
29:51China's our enemy, too.
29:52Not as big an enemy as Putin.
29:53Well, lookit, you're not incorrect in seeing that.
29:55China is one of the greatest threats that I believe that we are currently facing.
29:58But if you look at what President Trump has been able to accomplish, easily, and I
30:04will kind of, I guess, full circle answer your question.
30:06But President Trump never, first of all, you can't tell him what to do, period.
30:10Okay?
30:10So you cannot tell President Trump what to do.
30:12So this idea...
30:14Believe me.
30:14No, no.
30:15And I won't get to the Russians in this second.
30:16I have been trying, but no, no, no.
30:18You cannot.
30:19And so this idea and notion that Bibi Netanyahu is telling him what to do is completely wrong.
30:25But I do want to speak to something that you had pointed out.
30:28Israel is our ally, yes.
30:29And if you look at these relationships as friendships, if you have a friend, a good friend will have
30:33your back.
30:34But an even better friend will tell you when you're in the wrong or hold you accountable.
30:38And so President Trump has been able to do that with Bibi Netanyahu.
30:41Israel is on the front line of a war that we're also part of.
30:46Okay?
30:47And, you know, if you...
30:49I've asked this of other people, you know, if you had to live somewhere in the Middle East,
30:53you'd live in Tel Aviv.
30:55You probably wouldn't live in any other city.
30:57And I don't think your wife would like to.
30:59So if you're not down with that...
31:02Well, this is something that my party has to address.
31:04So your party has a terrible rift over Israel and anti-Semitism, but so does mine.
31:08Just be honest.
31:09Great.
31:09And I tell all my liberal friends, who had a bigger pride parade, Tel Aviv or Tehran?
31:14Right?
31:14Who has a free press?
31:15Who has elections?
31:16I don't support Netanyahu.
31:18I went over there and worked for Bushy Herzog.
31:20I can tell you firsthand, they have a thriving democracy and a free press.
31:24Democracies can self-correct.
31:26I think they're on the wrong track.
31:27I think America's on the wrong track.
31:28We can self-correct with our elections.
31:29Hamas can't self-correct.
31:31So my side, too, has to really find a way, I think, to reestablish the liberal values
31:37that the U.S.-Israel relationship is based on.
31:40Okay.
31:40But I...
31:41Sorry.
31:41Go ahead.
31:42All right.
31:42I got to pause here because we try to cover all the issues.
31:46Well, if I could, too, when you're done, like, I would like to talk on the peace deal aspect,
31:49though, because I think in this notion of forever wars...
31:51We're going to move on to Cuba.
31:52Okay.
31:53Well, I'll incorporate it then, though.
31:55But first up, this is...
31:58Look, this is not the only thing that's going on in the world.
32:01I don't know if you know this, but the kids aren't having sex.
32:06How's that for a segue?
32:07It's spring break.
32:08Look at that headline.
32:09Nearly half of Gen Z adults have never had sex.
32:11I keep reading this story every week that the young people don't have sex.
32:14This is one story I could never predict that I would hear.
32:17Young people, sex, I thought that was an automatic.
32:19Apparently not.
32:20But it's spring break time.
32:22This is when you should be having sex.
32:24So the kids, they're like pandas.
32:26We can't get them to mate.
32:31Really, it's...
32:34It's spring break.
32:35We can't get Ling Ling to fuck some things.
32:38So we came up with some...
32:40You know, it's a PSA.
32:41Some posters to help the kids understand sex is not a bad thing.
32:45Would you like to see that I'm free?
32:50Sex, you can even.
32:57Don't think of it as sex.
32:59Call it the hide the salami challenge.
33:05Sex, the most fun you can have without your phone.
33:08Yeah, well, that's...
33:10That's still a tough sell.
33:13If you like 6'7", wait till you try 6'9".
33:22You loved stranger things.
33:24Now show a stranger your thing.
33:30Have sex now instead of waiting till you're fucked by Social Security.
33:34Well, it's an argument.
33:39Sex, you don't have to make eye contact if you do a doggy stop.
33:47And sex, you can still post while you're doing it.
33:51Well, that's important to the kids.
33:53All right, I want to talk...
33:59I want to talk about Cuba.
34:01This must be important to you, right?
34:02That's where your family's from?
34:03You grew up here...
34:04We're Mexican.
34:04Not all the same, Bill.
34:05Oh, I'm sorry.
34:07Who's got jokes now?
34:10Bad information.
34:11Not my fault.
34:16But Cuba's in the news, and Trump says...
34:18Just tell me which one of these quotes you think is okay.
34:22He said, first, he said, maybe we'll have a friendly takeover of Cuba.
34:25And again, this is based sort of on as a bank shot from Venezuela.
34:28We took over Venezuela.
34:30And you've got to say, it's kind of a win so far.
34:32I mean, that ain't a disaster.
34:36And the oil that they were getting, Cuba was getting from Venezuela is not coming anymore.
34:42So they're saying that Cuba is in crisis.
34:45But Cuba's been in crisis for 67 years.
34:48Maybe this is a thing that turns them.
34:50So Trump first said, maybe we'll have a friendly takeover of Cuba.
34:54Well, that sounds nice.
34:57Then he said, I am holding Cuba.
34:59We're going to do Iran before Cuba.
35:02You know, like it's a threesome in a porn video.
35:04I'm going to do you, and then you do them.
35:07Okay.
35:07All right.
35:08No, I'm not making that.
35:09All right.
35:10Then he said, I do believe I'll have the honor of taking Cuba.
35:13And then this week, I can take it.
35:15I can do anything I want with it.
35:18If you're a star, they'll let you do it.
35:20I mean, why does he have to talk like a pirate?
35:27Wouldn't it be better if he didn't say things like that?
35:29Because there's always a side deal also.
35:32I mean, again, some of these things that he's doing, I'm not against.
35:35But the way he does it, what, what, what, what?
35:39Well, I will say that I reached out to the White House to chat with him about that.
35:44And as of right now, I think that, you know,
35:46President Trump has been brilliant in the way that he has communicated.
35:49It might seem a little bit crazy to people here,
35:51but these leaders do take that seriously.
35:53And as a result of what he's been doing in Venezuela and other countries as well,
35:57I think that there is very much so a serious conversation happening with leadership in Cuba.
36:02Yes, with Castro's grandson.
36:05Does everything have to be a Nepo baby?
36:06I mean, the Ayatollah, we had to get his kids.
36:08Have you seen Congress?
36:10Is it full of Nepo babies?
36:12There's a lot of Nepos and insider traders, but I think that's a separate conversation.
36:15He's only been president 14 months, and he's attacked seven countries.
36:18And how many peace deals, though, has he gone?
36:20Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Nigeria, Venezuela, and Yemen.
36:24Some of those other Democrats attacked him.
36:25Some of them may have, but seven.
36:27And he wants a Nobel Peace Prize.
36:29And you say, maybe they'll have negotiations.
36:30Well, good.
36:31But one of the problems in Iran is he sent in against the Persians,
36:35against the Iranians, people, the best negotiators in the world,
36:38even Trump says, President Trump says that.
36:40He sends in dumb and dumber, some New York real estate guy and his son-in-law.
36:44I'll have to disagree on that one.
36:45You're a little jacked stoochie about Nepo weapons or Iran.
36:48I'll have to disagree on that.
36:49Wait a second.
36:50Did they...
36:51Are they not the same people who did the Abraham Accords?
36:54They are the same people.
36:55Well, they're not...
36:56The Gulf states, too.
36:58Okay, but, you know, I mean, I feel like...
37:00You know, can we just judge things by what they are
37:03and not just what my team is doing?
37:05Now we have a war because they were such failed negotiators.
37:07Well, we have a war for three weeks.
37:09I don't know.
37:09Well, look, right now, again, the president has announced
37:12no boots on the ground and they're winding down operations.
37:15Well, we'll see.
37:16He says a lot of things.
37:17No, I'm fairly certain that that's going to happen.
37:20He chucks up a lot of shots.
37:21Some of them go in, some don't.
37:23But to be clear, look, if...
37:27If the president wanted World War III,
37:29he would have listened to the war pimps in Congress
37:32that were advocating for him to get in a direct conflict with Russia.
37:35And remember, we gave many munitions to Ukraine.
37:39We had our troops in Poland.
37:40It is...
37:41There is a...
37:42And there's no imminent threat for Russia.
37:43There is a different strategy here.
37:45I mean, I call it hit it and quit it, whatever it is.
37:48Like, he left the person in Venezuela, the vice president there,
37:51and it's like, okay, can we work with you?
37:54Now he's got the Castro grandson.
37:56Can you take over this country and we don't undo the whole country?
38:00Can you just morph into something more reasonable?
38:02It's a little like the way he did hotels, you know?
38:04He wouldn't really buy the hotel.
38:06He'd let you run it.
38:07They just put the Trump name on it.
38:10Branded now, the Trump property,
38:12and they let you still run the kitchen.
38:14I think what you're finding is a lot of the ideologies
38:17and perspectives behind what's happening specifically
38:19in the Western Hemisphere are focused on pushing out the Chinese.
38:23And I will say this, that I do hope,
38:25and I know that you just...
38:26You don't think that they're great,
38:28but I will say that Mr. Whitcoff and Jared Kushner
38:30have also been instrumental in opening up the channels of communication
38:34to index the war in Ukraine.
38:35And I do believe that President Trump will be able to pull off a peace deal.
38:38And I will say that I have also been able to reach out and have discussions.
38:42We don't...
38:43And we should always be leading with the perspective
38:44of at least opening up communications for those peace talks.
38:47You should never lead with a war-first perspective.
38:49And unfortunately, too many in Washington on both sides
38:52are personally benefiting and enriching themselves
38:54off of their stock portfolios tied to some of these defense contractors
38:57that are getting massive government contracts for war.
39:00And so what I will say is having had those conversations with the president
39:04and having had those conversations with the people and powers that be,
39:07I just don't think it's fair to give and label a blanket statement on the matter
39:10because I do literally see this administration working on the board of peace,
39:14working to shore up...
39:15Even though Israel might not get along with places like, you know, Qatar, etc.,
39:19they are still able to thread the needle and actually bring peace to that region.
39:22And I think that you will see that this is going to be a net positive in the weeks coming.
39:26Yeah, that's very possible.
39:28I mean, I certainly didn't think we were going to be where we were two years ago,
39:33where Israel was making peace with its Arab neighbors.
39:37I mean, they did have a different way to approach it.
39:40But before we lose time here, this is a big story that happened this week
39:46that I really want to get to, and it's a sad story.
39:48It's a Cesar Chavez story, but I keep reading these stories.
39:51I mean, Bill Cosby, then we had Weinstein, Epstein, where it...
39:57And the question that keeps coming into my mind is, why did it take so long?
40:02How do these people get away with it?
40:05Because many people, I know they knew about Bill Cosby.
40:08I know they knew about Weinstein.
40:10Why do so many people keep the secret of monsters for so long?
40:15I think it's really hard, and I see this in Congress.
40:17As you know, we just voted recently on releasing a congressional slush fund
40:20to pay off victims of sexual harassment by members of Congress.
40:24And overwhelmingly, on both sides, I think it was maybe only 70 members of Congress,
40:28me being one of them, that actually voted to release those funds.
40:31And I think that it's really hard to take on institutions of power,
40:33especially when the corruption is coming from the top down.
40:36But we ended up actually being able to subpoena those records,
40:40and we'll be releasing them.
40:41But that's just, I think, a small micro scale.
40:43And if that's happening in Congress, where we're supposed to be writing the laws for the country,
40:47that, to me, tells me that there's too much consolidated corruption.
40:49And we need better, younger people without, you know,
40:53this freak mentality to be running for office.
40:55Better, younger.
41:00Is that the...
41:01I read that story about Cesar Chavez, and I think the Times has it nailed,
41:05and they ought to be saluted for the five years of journalism
41:08that went into producing that story.
41:09And I had no idea. Nobody had any idea.
41:11But I will say, as a liberal,
41:15my people are scraping the name of a sexual abuser off of buildings
41:18while MAGA is putting Trump's name on the Kennedy Center,
41:21who was found guilty, liable, is a civil case,
41:25liable in a court of law for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll.
41:29He was.
41:31And he had a fair trial.
41:32He had a good lawyer.
41:33He put up a vigorous defense.
41:35I'd be very careful about that statement.
41:37I would be very careful about that statement
41:39because there's nothing to stop someone
41:41that claims that you assaulted them 20 years ago.
41:43You might not have had any, any, anything to do with it.
41:47And, like, I'll be honest with you,
41:48I've seen a lot of corruption within the court systems.
41:50I'd be very careful about that statement.
41:51Okay, but can I ask you this?
41:52You were the...
41:53Speaking of predators and child molesters,
41:56you were one of the people who wanted the Epstein files released.
41:58Yes.
41:58Which was good.
41:59Okay, then you have Hillary Clinton come in.
42:02I mean, this is, like, three gazillion pages
42:05of men behaving badly,
42:07and the witness you want is a woman.
42:10Hey, she was issued a bipartisan subpoena,
42:13meaning the Democrats wanted her in, too,
42:15because Bill Clinton was all over those logs.
42:17So you would have been against that, bringing Hillary in?
42:19No, I voted for the subpoena as well.
42:21But what did she have to do with it?
42:23She never met the guy.
42:25And, again, for something that's all about men behaving badly,
42:28the first person you had...
42:30You don't think that's a bad look?
42:31I think the question for her was specifically
42:34because he was a big donor to the Clinton Foundation,
42:36but I want to point out something
42:37that a lot of people aren't talking about.
42:39I actually read the names,
42:41and other women have, as well,
42:43confirmed this, specifically other members
42:45that saw the unredacted files.
42:46Some of the most egregious emails that you saw
42:48talking about girls ages 10 and 11,
42:51talking about mocking a little girl who was praying,
42:54those came from women.
42:56The only co-conspirator currently sitting in jail
42:58is Ghislaine Maxwell.
42:59There were other women that were co-conspirators
43:01and given plea deals to testify,
43:03and they were let off.
43:04And that was a gross, I think, breach of justice.
43:07Yeah, no, they were actual co-conspirators.
43:10And then they were given plea deals for testifying,
43:12and they were let off.
43:13And so what I'm saying,
43:14and what I do think the Department of Justice should do,
43:16because this happened and started under Bush 1.0,
43:19and that was wrong.
43:20And then it continued.
43:21They had the files.
43:22Then we had files and allegedly evidence destruction
43:26under the former deputy director.
43:27Then the actual facility in New York
43:30that housed some of the files was actually cyber-attacked.
43:32So there's a lot going into this,
43:34and we can get into the whole Jeffrey Epstein ties,
43:36because I actually talked to Bill Clinton
43:37and Hillary Clinton specifically about that,
43:40presenting them with the actual document
43:41that showed that he had a complete other alias,
43:43like separate conversation.
43:45But the point is that those women...
43:47You get a lot of information that we don't all have.
43:49It's... I'm happy to come back.
43:51No, I know.
43:52And I think I should.
43:54I really do.
43:54We want you.
43:55I appreciate it.
43:56Yeah.
43:57Last question, though.
43:58Okay, the SAVE Act.
44:00This is the one about voting.
44:02Trump wants to get rid of it
44:03and wants to get rid of mail-in voting.
44:06He says we are the only country in the world that allows this.
44:09Actually, it's 34 countries that allow this,
44:11but everyone can make a small mistake.
44:13It's not like him to just pull it out of his ass.
44:20And he also wants picture ID.
44:24You know, 83% of independents, 71% of Democrats,
44:29and 76% of black voters are okay with this.
44:32We could have a grand bargain, couldn't we?
44:36Like, how about Election Day is a national holiday?
44:39I agree with that.
44:40Really?
44:41Round of applause.
44:42We should give an...
44:42I should always do.
44:43Increase people to vote.
44:44Get a picture ID, and we'll pay for it.
44:49The government will pay.
44:49Because some people can't,
44:50because a lot of people can't vote
44:52because they just don't have it and they can't afford it.
44:55A passport costs $165.
44:58Couldn't we just get one win on the board
45:00with this kind of shit without playing games?
45:03Paul?
45:05Democrats should agree to voter ID, period.
45:08I like that.
45:09I'll talk to that.
45:09They should.
45:10Voter ID.
45:10Republicans should have...
45:1136 states...
45:1236 states already have voter ID.
45:15I live in Virginia.
45:15We have it.
45:16The Democrats just won a landslide
45:17and elected the first black speaker
45:19of the Virginia General Assembly,
45:21so it's not some racist thing.
45:22It's not.
45:23So they ought to do that.
45:24But then Republicans, I think,
45:25should be for same-day voter registration.
45:28Walk in, show your ID, register, and vote right then.
45:31You can go into Costco and join the club that day
45:34and then buy toilet paper in five minutes.
45:36Why the hell can't I go vote?
45:37Right?
45:38You can also show ID to buy a beer.
45:40There's stuff in there.
45:41There's stuff in there that's terrible.
45:42Trump wants every state to give him
45:46all of their voter rolls,
45:47all of their voter files,
45:48all of their information.
45:48Hell no!
45:50No!
45:50The Constitution puts states in charge of elections,
45:53so he's got a lot of stuff in there
45:54that he's trying to, I think, sneak through
45:56so he can suppress elections.
45:58All right.
45:58In the Senate, they actually...
45:59Go ahead.
46:01I would take that deal.
46:02You could make that deal.
46:03Well, they just actually,
46:04in the Senate, did a vote on voter ID,
46:06and it failed.
46:07The Democrats voted against it.
46:08There's a lot of games in the Senate,
46:09and I've been nuking my own party.
46:10So, look, we're not perfect,
46:12but what I will tell you is
46:13this is an 80-20 issue,
46:14just like banning insider trading,
46:16and the establishment and control
46:18is blocking it.
46:19If you cannot do your job in the Senate
46:20and get voter ID passed,
46:22proof of citizenship,
46:22you should find a different job
46:24because the American people,
46:25black, white, Hispanic,
46:26Democrat, Republican, Independent,
46:28want this,
46:28and it is a failure
46:29if we cannot get this over the country.
46:30If it's ID, that's fine.
46:32If it's a federal takeover,
46:34it's not.
46:35And by the way,
46:35this whole passport thing,
46:37half of the American people
46:38don't have a passport.
46:39And I got news for you.
46:40The half that don't,
46:41they voted for Trump
46:42more than Kamala.
46:44He's going to hurt his own party.
46:45I'm an American before I'm a Democrat.
46:47I think this hurts Republicans more.
46:48All right, let's just say
46:48we've made a nice start.
46:49Okay.
46:50All right.
46:51Time for new rules, everybody.
46:52New rules.
46:58Okay, new rule.
47:00If you were shocked
47:01by the viral photo
47:03of the Hollywood theater
47:04where the Oscars took place
47:05covered in trash
47:06after the event,
47:07you must admit
47:08you've never been to Hollywood.
47:15If you don't live here,
47:16you probably don't know,
47:17but Hollywood is not exactly
47:18the most upscale part of Los Angeles.
47:20But if you do visit,
47:21be sure to check out
47:22my star on the Walk of Fame.
47:30It's easy to find.
47:31It's right next to Mickey Rourke.
47:32Not the star.
47:33Actually, Mickey Rourke.
47:40New rule.
47:41Now that we know
47:41by their constant
47:42public appearances together
47:44that Kim Jong-un's
47:4513-year-old daughter,
47:46Kim Joo-hae,
47:47is definitely his successor,
47:49North Koreans better hope
47:50Kim doesn't die
47:51any time soon
47:52because if you think
47:54an iron-fisted dictator
47:55can be mean,
47:56just wait till it's
47:57a teenage girl.
48:04New rule.
48:05The New Zealand school teacher
48:07who was caught recording
48:08a porn video
48:09in her classroom
48:11where she urinates
48:12on some kid's hat
48:14that she got
48:15from the lost and found
48:16must retire immediately.
48:18I don't know who I feel
48:19sorry for.
48:20The kid who watched
48:21and said,
48:21hey, that's my teacher.
48:23Or the kid who watched
48:24and said,
48:24hey, that's my hat.
48:32Uh, New rule,
48:33someone must tell
48:34the man in this viral video
48:35who surprises his girlfriend
48:37with a marriage proposal
48:38and she's so overjoyed
48:40she blurts out,
48:41shut the fuck up
48:43that as special
48:44as this moment is
48:45for both of you,
48:46it's probably not
48:47the last time
48:48you're going to hear
48:49shut the fuck up.
48:57Uh, New rule,
48:58now that Cash Patel
48:59had someone make him
49:00a customized pair
49:01of Nikes
49:01featuring the FBI motto
49:03on the back,
49:04a Marvel Comics
49:06Punisher skull,
49:07a personalized Cash
49:08monogram on the tongue
49:10and a number nine
49:11on the side
49:12because he's
49:13the ninth FBI director,
49:14someone has to tell him
49:15this is making us
49:16miss the old days
49:17when the FBI director
49:19just wore a dress
49:26and, uh,
49:28finally,
49:29New rule,
49:30you don't have to
49:30react to everything
49:32or have a hot take
49:33on everything
49:34or care if someone
49:36says they don't like cats.
49:38You know,
49:39it wasn't that long ago
49:41when the most banal question
49:43you could ever ask someone
49:44was,
49:44are you a cat person
49:45or a dog person?
49:46Well,
49:47those innocent days
49:48are over
49:48as actors
49:49Paul Meskel
49:50and Jesse Buckley
49:51found out recently
49:52when they were asked that
49:53and said they don't like cats
49:55and the internet
49:56coughed up a furball
50:00of rage.
50:01How dare they?
50:03They don't like cats
50:04but I do?
50:04Then one of us
50:05must die.
50:13Jesse Buckley
50:14even said
50:15she made her husband
50:16give their cat away.
50:19So what?
50:20They gave it away.
50:21They didn't have it
50:21sewn into a coat.
50:28They're not
50:29trying to outlaw cats.
50:30They're not eating them
50:31like Haitians.
50:35They just said
50:36they don't like them.
50:37That's allowed.
50:38People are allowed
50:39to have an opinion
50:40you don't share
50:41without you reacting.
50:43It's just a cloud.
50:46Let it pass.
50:47But no
50:48that's not how
50:49a certain kind of people
50:50these days think.
50:51For them
50:51having a phone
50:52to post from
50:53is like hosting
50:54a one person episode
50:55of The View
50:56that never ends.
51:06Remember that
51:06the next time
51:07you read the words
51:08Twitter reacts
51:09or backlash erupts
51:10or internet explodes.
51:11The internet
51:12didn't explode.
51:13Some Gen Z loser
51:15at the Daily Beast
51:16and some right wing
51:17shit poster exploded.
51:19No one else cared.
51:26The media
51:27would have you think
51:28that we're all
51:28at each other's throats
51:29all the time.
51:30But it's actually
51:31just a tiny minority
51:32who are on
51:33and in
51:34media
51:35and social media
51:36and who just
51:37want to fight
51:37and bitch
51:38about everything.
51:39Leaving the
51:40false impression
51:41that America
51:41is hopelessly divided
51:42but most people
51:44aren't hopelessly trapped
51:45in a news silo.
51:46They're hopelessly trapped
51:48in a minivan
51:49telling the kids
51:49shut up
51:50I can't hear myself think.
51:58Twitter
51:59X now
52:00only has
52:01one out of ten
52:02Americans
52:02visit it daily.
52:04Eighty percent of us
52:04don't even have it.
52:06Sure it has
52:06500 million posts
52:08every day
52:09but half of them
52:10come from
52:10the owner.
52:18Turns out
52:19it really is
52:20like a town square.
52:21Specifically
52:22Times Square
52:23in the 70s.
52:27Dirty
52:27sketchy
52:28and mostly
52:29full of perverts
52:29and losers
52:30with nothing better
52:31to do.
52:32Yes I'm looking
52:32at you
52:33all the people
52:34who lost it
52:34because
52:35Timothee Chalamet
52:36said no one cares
52:37about opera
52:38and ballet
52:40which prompted
52:41so many
52:42who have never
52:43been to the ballet
52:44or opera
52:45with no plans
52:46to go
52:49to rise up
52:50and say
52:50I have a dog
52:51in this fight.
53:01me I don't.
53:03I went to the ballet
53:04once
53:04and I loved it
53:05because in the age
53:07of anxiety
53:08we live in
53:08it was so great
53:09to get that kind
53:10of really deep
53:11deep sleep.
53:15Where you
53:16you just wake up
53:20so refreshed.
53:22I kid ballet
53:23and I'm sure
53:23it's a great place
53:24to meet anorexics
53:25but
53:27but most
53:29people are watching
53:30Dancing with the Stars.
53:32That's why tonight
53:33I am asking
53:34the American Psychiatric
53:36Association
53:36to add a new
53:37disorder
53:38to the Diagnostic Manual
53:40of Mental Disorders.
53:42Terminally
53:43online disease.
53:52TOD
53:53or Todd.
53:56People
53:57experiencing
54:00Todd
54:01feel intense
54:02emotional distress
54:03from spending
54:03all day
54:04doom scrolling
54:05on their phone
54:05and these people
54:06need your help
54:07because
54:08Todd
54:08doesn't just
54:09affect those
54:10who suffer
54:10from it
54:11it also
54:11affects their
54:12families
54:12and loved
54:13ones
54:13who aren't
54:14terminally
54:15online.
54:16These are the
54:16ones we call
54:17people who have
54:18shit to do.
54:23And
54:27unlike
54:28people who
54:28suffer from Todd
54:29people who
54:30have shit to do
54:32don't imagine
54:33that expressing
54:33an opinion
54:34on everything
54:35makes them
54:35the solution
54:36the solution
54:36to America's
54:37problems.
54:38Now here's
54:39how you know
54:39I like you.
54:44Here's how you
54:45know if you
54:45suffer from Todd.
54:47If the daily
54:47outrage cycle
54:48becomes your
54:49entire personality
54:50and you scroll
54:51all day
54:52to find the
54:53outrage
54:54then screenshot
54:55the thread
54:56then post the
54:57screenshot
54:57with the
54:58caption
54:59this.
55:06Okay.
55:10People with
55:11real lives
55:12don't do
55:13this
55:14because they've
55:15got shit to
55:16do.
55:17They haven't
55:18poured over
55:18every email
55:19in the Epstein
55:20files because
55:21they have
55:21their own
55:22mail to sort
55:23through like
55:24the electric
55:24bill and the
55:25gas bill.
55:27right now
55:31right now
55:32there's a big
55:33fight going
55:33on between
55:34Megyn Kelly
55:35and Ben Shapiro
55:36about Candace
55:37Owens and
55:37as it plays
55:38out it's
55:39very important
55:39to remember
55:40that the
55:40most common
55:41reaction to
55:41it from
55:42Americans is
55:43I don't know
55:44who any of
55:45these people
55:45are and I
55:46don't know
55:47what the
55:47fuck you're
55:48talking about.
55:52During most
55:53primetime
55:54nights less
55:55than 1%
55:56of the
55:56country is
55:57watching Fox
55:58News, CNN
55:59and MSNOW
56:01combined.
56:03Combined.
56:04A guy on
56:05TikTok pressure
56:06washing his
56:06driveway gets
56:07bigger radio.
56:1676% of
56:18Americans watch
56:19less than
56:20one hour of
56:21any cable news
56:22in a month.
56:23You thought
56:24opera was
56:24getting its
56:25ass kicked.
56:31If you ask
56:32most Americans
56:33what their
56:33opinion of
56:34Tulsi Gabbard
56:35is, their
56:35answer is
56:36going to be
56:36what's a
56:37Tulsi Gabbard?
56:39They don't care
56:40that Bad Bunny
56:41sang in Spanish
56:42at the Super Bowl
56:43and they're
56:44completely unaware
56:45that they're
56:45supposed to be
56:46boycotting Target
56:47or Chick-fil-A.
56:49Here's the
56:49criteria they use
56:50when deciding
56:51where to go
56:52for chicken.
56:53How's the
56:53chicken?
57:00They don't
57:00know who
57:01Stephen Miller
57:01is.
57:02They don't
57:02watch the
57:02show about
57:03the gay
57:03hockey player.
57:05And if they
57:05had to guess,
57:06they'd say
57:07MSNOW is a
57:07multiple sclerosis
57:08charity.
57:15And Fox
57:16and Friends
57:17is a
57:18children's
57:18cartoon show.
57:21Their lives
57:22don't revolve
57:23around having
57:24a hot take
57:25on every
57:26stupid thing.
57:27Katy Perry
57:27went to space
57:28and now she's
57:28the worst
57:29person on
57:29Earth.
57:30Pineapple
57:31doesn't belong
57:32on pizza.
57:32You know
57:32what?
57:33You're arguing
57:33about these
57:34things?
57:34Here's the
57:35hottest take
57:35of all.
57:36Who gives
57:37a shit?
57:45Here's my
57:45take.
57:46Eat some
57:47fruit.
57:49If God
57:50wanted us
57:51to have an
57:51opinion on
57:52everything,
57:52he wouldn't
57:53have given
57:53us the
57:53shrug emoji.
57:55Thank you
57:56very much,
57:56ladies and
57:57gentlemen.
57:57I want to
57:57thank Paul
57:58Begala,
57:59Representative
58:00Parole,
58:01and Tristan
58:02Harris.
58:03Club Random
58:03drops every
58:04Monday on
58:04YouTube.
58:05Listen,
58:06never forget
58:06your podcast
58:07now.
58:07Go watch
58:07Rivertime
58:08on YouTube.
58:08Thank you
58:09very much,
58:09ladies and
58:09gentlemen.
58:39Mongerin,
58:39gentlemen.
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