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00:02I will probably know straight away, because I can see it in my mind.
00:07When I started asking him questions, he was angry.
00:12He said, I'm sick of all this, I'm sick of you questioning me.
00:16Come to my house and we will speak.
00:18And here's my address.
00:21I am gone. I am all guns blazing at this point.
00:24I'm going to this house. I'm gone.
00:29It's such a small town, it's affected Kilmarnock hugely,
00:32because everybody knows about it.
00:34He came out of nowhere.
00:36I was like, oh, who is this? How have we not come across this guy?
00:39But then I got a message from another girl from Kilmarnock.
00:42And she said, whatever you do, don't trust David Graham.
00:45He then became threatening.
00:48Either you speak to me or you're not going to like what's going to happen.
00:51I actually do remember, like, the adrenaline pumping.
00:55I'm really suspicious now.
00:56I kept saying to her, do not let him see you.
01:00We thought we were going to need to all band together here.
01:02It didn't add up at all.
01:04Is this, like, a kidnap attempt or is it money?
01:07Like, what is the end game for you?
01:08Something just rang alarm bells.
01:11Like, in my head, I'm thinking,
01:13Michael Myers is running around Crosshouse Hospital.
01:15I just thought, who is this psycho?
01:18Who the fuck is David Graham?
01:21I was like, wait a minute.
01:22If I could, let him see him.
01:32I'm scared.
01:42I didn't know if he was, I'm scared of some things.
01:49I didn't know him.
01:51Ah, yeah, this looks familiar.
01:54Running through my head was all the lies.
01:57He might not be attractive, he might not be tall,
02:00he might not be successful, but I'm in love with him.
02:09And I was so desperate to see him at this point.
02:12Like, it was, like, a need and not a want.
02:15So we're looking over to the left,
02:17and there was a trampoline in his back garden,
02:20and I thought, it is his house.
02:23Look at me, Aunt TJ, look at me!
02:26It's a trampoline in the back garden, that's where Lily was.
02:29They walk up to the door and my legs are like jelly.
02:33I don't know who's going to be behind this door in this house.
02:36Probably the most nervous I'd ever been.
02:39There's, like, a dark shadow that walks past the window
02:42and I'm thinking, oh, that must be him, that must be him.
02:47Well, the door opens, and I'm, like, gulping back sick by this point.
02:51I'm thinking, oh, my God, help me.
02:54And the man opens the door,
02:55and he's just so far from who I thought was going to open the door.
02:59And he's like, I don't know a David Graham hen.
03:02I've lived here all my life.
03:03And I'm just standing there in a housing estate
03:07looking for a guy that I've spoke to for six months,
03:09and he's not here.
03:13So, after we went to the house, he went radio silent.
03:18I feel as if I've lost him.
03:22Why are you not taking this as a sign that he's been caught out
03:25and he's not real?
03:27You just look past red flags,
03:29because this isn't just, like, a guy that you text every day
03:32once or twice.
03:33This is from the morning you wake up
03:36to the very last word that you say at night.
03:42Cos the alternative is admitting that...
03:46Admitting that you were so vulnerable
03:49that you fell for all this.
03:52And you just don't want to admit that.
03:55You just don't want to.
03:56So you're just holding on to every single last hope.
04:01I feel as if I've invested so much love, time and effort
04:05into this guy that I am in love with this person
04:09and I really, really need to find out who it is now.
04:24This little spot is in my kitchen.
04:27I don't know why I've automatically always came here
04:30any time something kind of stressful happens.
04:33Have you ever thought about getting any chairs in here?
04:35Nope. I don't know why.
04:38There's, like, no chairs in my house.
04:39I'm such a floor person as well.
04:41I eat my dinner on the floor.
04:47So I'd been speaking to two girls from Kilmarnock
04:50who also knew David Graham
04:51and we decided to then make a group chat called 007
04:55to get to the bottom of who was behind David Graham.
05:00And why is this person doing it?
05:02I know that there's no David Graham working in the hospital
05:05or the ward.
05:06However, I've got a picture of a pager, an ID card
05:10that says that this person has access to that ward
05:13and my granddad is still in the hospital.
05:17It was scary.
05:20I think because I knew at the time that my granddad wasn't talking
05:23my granddad couldn't really move
05:25I'm thinking, what is this person doing to my granddad?
05:29Is this, like, freak just walking in and out of a hospital
05:32and he doesn't actually work there?
05:34What's this person got access to?
05:41All three of us were having so many different conversations.
05:44We were starting to think, is he a romance scammer?
05:47Scamming people out of money.
05:49Why did you think it might be money?
05:51Because I think that was quite a hot topic with David Graham as well,
05:54was talking about money.
05:57David was always doing something extravagant.
06:02He was living in this affluent area.
06:04He was driving a nice car.
06:07Always liked to boast and always liked to bring up money.
06:10So is he connecting with all these women to scam them out of money?
06:13Like, is this the reason behind all of this?
06:22He actually told me his daughter had died in the hospital.
06:25And I didn't believe it.
06:26I was like, there's no way that that wee girl's died of cancer.
06:29So, just thought, right, no more.
06:37And then I got a call from one of my friends, Kevin,
06:39and he asked if I was dating a David Graham.
06:41And I was like, no.
06:43I was like, why are you asking that?
06:44And he said that his friend Adele had said that her cousin was David Graham.
06:49Adele had seen on Facebook that her cousin had been commenting things
06:52and thought we were in a relationship.
06:54So then I unblocked David and asked why he was telling people
06:59that he was in a relationship with me.
07:01To which he responded straight away to say that he didn't
07:04and his cousin's just got the wrong end of the stick.
07:13A week or so later, I had arranged to meet Kevin just for, like, lunch.
07:17Adele came.
07:18And she said, I'm Adele, I'm David's cousin, was the kind of first thing she'd said to me.
07:23She was bubbly, she was chatty, nicely dressed.
07:27She just seemed like a nice girl.
07:30She started asking questions, oh, have you not actually met each other yet?
07:34I think I'd said to her, no, I definitely won't be meeting him because he doesn't exist.
07:38But then she got very defensive, saying, David's just going through a really hard time.
07:43So he did have a child that just died of cancer, but he really likes you.
07:47So he was very gutted that I don't want to meet up with him and things now.
07:51So what are you thinking at this point? Are you thinking, oh, God, I've got this all wrong?
07:55And I remember just thinking at the point, no, I still don't think this guy is who he said he
07:58is.
07:59There's something strange here.
08:07So basically after I went for lunch, I remember a message saying, why are you saying to my cousin, I
08:12don't exist.
08:13You don't believe my daughter's died, like basically making me as if I was sick in the head.
08:17Why would you think I'd make it up?
08:20But then I just literally cut it off.
08:23I had no more for a good few weeks.
08:26And then I got a message for like a random number, just to let you know.
08:31David's been in a car crash, he's in hospital.
08:36When I tried to phone it, there was no answer.
08:39Don't know who the number was from.
08:41Never answered it when I called it.
08:42Never messaged back.
08:44Still to this day, I have no idea who the number was from.
08:47So then that's when I went on to Facebook.
08:53There's pictures of him in a hospital.
08:56So obviously you're thinking, right, what's going on here?
08:59David Graham was lying in a hospital bed and his friend was saying, come on David, you can pull through,
09:05we're all rooting for you.
09:08I started looking closer at the picture.
09:12I'm pretty sure the guy in the bed was just a different guy.
09:16So I started phoning around hospitals.
09:19There's no David Graham in any hospital in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire and the surrounding areas.
09:24Do you ever hear from David again?
09:26No, but someone else calls me and it's his cousin, screaming hysterically down the phone, making me feel bad for
09:35not going to the hospital, telling me that her little cousin is on his deathbed and he's asking for me.
09:43But I've phoned down all the hospitals. How am I supposed to get there if I don't know where I'm
09:46going?
09:47I'm trying to say, give me the address of the hospital and she's just shouting over me.
09:52How do you leave that conversation?
09:55I think I got hung up on.
09:57She wasn't listening and then she just hung up on me.
10:10In the 007 group chat, one of the girls in the chat knows a girl called Adele.
10:15And Adele's so far the only person that we know that's ever spoke to David.
10:22One of the girls in the group mentioned that when David Graham was on holiday in Marbella, he phoned her
10:28and they were having a conversation and then he passes the phone over to Adele.
10:32And then Adele's having a nice conversation and then passes the phone back to David.
10:38So we could pin Adele and David in the same place at the same time.
10:44I didn't know who Adele was, but she's a girl from Kilmarnock and she's the same age as all of
10:48us.
10:49There's a strong connection in the group.
10:52One of the girls had been in nights out with Adele, like they've got friends in common.
10:58So we kind of need to look into her.
11:06Is it possible in your mind that he wasn't a doctor?
11:09I don't think I ever questioned his occupation, but I did start thinking like, are you who you say you
11:15are?
11:19So by this time, my friends, family, me, we were all investigating, trying to find out basically who David is.
11:26A few weeks previous, David had sent me a picture of a parking ticket and it was on a windscreen.
11:32In the distance, you could see there was a building and it says Department of Pathology.
11:38And at that point, I was like, that's it. Like, that is where David parks his car.
11:44Yeah, so see here, probably at this point, we would have been like, oh my God, this is it.
11:47We know the location, we know the car, we know the Reggie, we know everything.
11:52So we're like, right, this is our moment we've been waiting for.
11:55We're going to find out who the hell this is.
11:58I was on the phone to David and he says that he was starting at nine o'clock and I
12:02was like, fantastic.
12:03My mum's sister at this point says they didn't want me to go by myself because it wouldn't be safe.
12:07So they said, we'll come with you.
12:09Oh, no wonder, is there a building gone there now?
12:12They've knocked down a building behind me, so that's where the Department of Pathology sign was.
12:16So basically, we parked, see at the very back there, there was cars parked all the way down here in
12:22front of us.
12:22So it wasn't obvious that we were sat up there.
12:26I'm on the phone to David the whole time, literally laid down in the back seat.
12:30And then all of a sudden, we see a car coming round.
12:34It's the red Corsa from my mum's house.
12:37He's saying, that's me just arrived at work.
12:39And I'm thinking, I know it is because I can see you, you've arrived.
12:42And then we see the car pulling up, engine turns off and the lights turn off.
12:47And David says, oh, that's me pulled up, you know, a long shift and that kind of stuff.
12:52So the door opens and someone steps out.
12:54It was dark, so we can't see who it was, just a shadow.
12:58So I'm, like I said, crouched down, I'm talking.
13:00I then hang up the phone to see the reaction of the person that we were watching.
13:04They drop the phone, then I re-ring them back.
13:08The person picks up the phone, turns round.
13:11It's a woman.
13:13What? Like, no.
13:15And all three of us were just like, in shock, were like, no way.
13:19And I think when I seen, first of all, a woman, I was like, hey, this is a woman.
13:22But then I was like, hold on a minute, it's the florist.
13:25It's like the girl who I've been talking to, who's been delivering these flowers,
13:29who's been talking about David.
13:31And I think at that point, my mum and my sister must have been like, shut up.
13:34Like, the girl who's been dropping the flowers off to you.
13:36And I was like, yeah.
13:37And it just sent shivers through me.
13:39And when I think back...
13:43My God, like, what the hell?
13:45I would never have ever thought that this was David.
13:49Not the girl who'd been delivering all these things to me.
13:53Who, you know, I was inviting in for like, a cup of tea.
13:57Who I drove home.
13:58Like, I can't believe that I was sat next to her.
14:02And chatting to her.
14:03You know, like, I could literally go out and touch her arm.
14:07I then went on to David's Facebook.
14:10I couldn't find her anywhere.
14:12I then looked up the name of the shop.
14:16Couldn't find that either.
14:17There's absolutely no evidence at all that this girl exists anywhere.
14:24I got in contact with my friend, Kevin.
14:26And I said, listen, give me that Adele's number.
14:29He sent me Adele's number.
14:31I put it on my phone.
14:33And I had already had a contact with the same number.
14:37And the contact was David Graham.
14:42David Graham and Adele both had the same phone number.
14:48I then went on to Facebook.
14:49Typed her name in.
14:52Typed in enter.
14:55And then her picture came up.
14:59And I was like, holy fuck.
15:01She works on my grandad's ward as a nurse.
15:08Like, she's the person looking after my grandad right now.
15:14Like, I actually can't even believe it.
15:16Why am I crying?
15:20I don't know.
15:21Like, I remember looking at it and, like, being in such disbelief.
15:25Because I'm like, there's no way, like, that's who they're talking about.
15:31I was totally shocked.
15:32But I don't understand it.
15:34Because it is a guy's voice on the phone.
15:37It was weird.
15:38So I'm talking to a man.
15:40And this woman, and I'm like, I'm talking to you.
15:44Like, you're a man on my phone, but you're a woman crossing the road.
15:48Hi, sorry, I'm driving.
15:50Yes.
15:52I'm also texting.
15:54Oh, my God, that is him.
15:56But, is that you impalming me off already?
15:58She was using the voice changer now.
16:01No, I was not saying you were fat.
16:06However, it's good to get the steps in.
16:09That's what I was saying.
16:10Ah, that is the voice, yeah.
16:12That's his, that's, that was David Graham.
16:14Because you had spoken to David and spoken to Adele.
16:18The voices weren't the same.
16:20No, not, the voices were nowhere near the same.
16:22It was a guy and a woman.
16:23Adele was a woman, David was a guy.
16:25The voices didn't even sound remotely the same.
16:27And not for one thing does I think it's a voice changer that,
16:30because you just don't think that these things exist.
16:32And I'm just like, this is wild.
16:33And I can't believe this person is actually going into a hospital,
16:36because you clearly see she was dressed as if she was going to work.
16:41I'm actually getting goosebumps just now.
16:43Even just thinking about it, like, when she was walking over the road,
16:46just starting her shift.
16:47This person, who's of a good profession, is doing this?
16:54Why is she doing this?
16:55Like, what is the reason behind it?
16:58Because she actually did work in the hospital,
17:00and I seen her side by side with my grandad.
17:03It was just, like, quite sickening.
17:05Like, that's someone we put our trust into.
17:07It was terrifying, to be honest.
17:10You know fine well what I'm going through,
17:12and you still thought that that was okay.
17:16Like, who does that?
17:20But who actually does that?
17:23You might only think, oh, six months of your life is nothing.
17:27But six months, when you're 23,
17:30and you're trying to figure out your head,
17:33it was soul destroying.
17:35It goes to show that you just can't trust.
17:38Trust people, basically.
17:40I feel disgusted in myself for falling for something like that.
17:45And this is who it is, it's Adele Rennie.
17:54Soon as I found out that it was Adele,
17:58I went straight back to chat.
17:59I was like, holy shit, like, she works on my grandad's ward.
18:06That ward in particular,
18:08it is a very vulnerable ward.
18:10I mean, if you really wanted to take advantage of people,
18:12like, that would be the best ward to do it in.
18:15I just thought, I didn't want it to work in the hospital,
18:18taking care of my grandad.
18:19But my main thing was for it to stop.
18:22So, I phoned the hospital straight away.
18:25I said, listen, I said, you've got someone in your ward.
18:28Called Adele Rennie.
18:29I said, and she's pretending to be a male doctor.
18:34I just phoned the hospital again,
18:35and the woman on the ward does not believe a thing I am saying.
18:40I remember her saying,
18:42is this some sort of vendetta you've got against Adele?
18:45I was like, listen, I will be going to the police.
18:47And I was like, no, trace the number back to Adele.
18:50And she went ballistic.
18:51Absolutely ballistic.
18:56I felt like I had no control of the situation.
18:58Like, my grandad was still in there.
19:00I've got someone saying that I've got some sort of vendetta.
19:03I've got Adele, is she off today? Is she working today?
19:05Like, where is she?
19:06I think I just kept saying to myself,
19:07we just need to find more proof.
19:08There just needs to be more. We need more.
19:14It was only a matter of time before Adele caught on.
19:17We knew, like, all she needs to do is either block us
19:21or completely delete the profile and then that's it.
19:24Like, we don't have anything to go on.
19:26So it was pretty much like a race against time.
19:30We just had to, like, screenshot everything, write things down.
19:33Like, the more evidence, the better.
19:35So when I started looking deeper into David Graham's Facebook,
19:38then I started noticing it was always the same people
19:40commenting on his things.
19:42And then I started asking myself, well, are they real?
19:45We would reverse image search.
19:46So you can put an image into Google
19:48and find out where it came from.
19:50And we found these profiles that actually have been stolen from Instagram.
19:54Like, there was a web of people, so you've got, like, David here,
19:57and then you've got all these profiles validating that David's a real person.
20:00But it's all Adele.
20:03So we screenshot the other profiles as well.
20:08Time went so fast and I didn't sleep.
20:12Like, I was sitting on my phone looking for things and my laptop
20:16and it was, like, before I knew it, we were on to, like, 5, 6 in the morning
20:19and then I'd have a quick sleep and then I'd wake back up again.
20:21Like, I was consumed by it all.
20:27That period of time you're not sleeping, you're not eating,
20:30like, why did it take over?
20:31I think because it involved my grandad
20:34and the only way I'm going to be able to get Adele,
20:36it's trouble for it as if I come up with all this information.
20:42Once we kind of start noticing that all these profiles are, like, definitely fake,
20:46we realised this was a full-scale operation.
20:49I knew I just really had to get the police involved.
20:58It was obvious it was Adele Rene.
21:00I was really, really optimistic, like, just going to go straight to the police and they're going to arrest her
21:05and that's going to be it.
21:10I was in the police station for about four or five hours.
21:16There was, like, so many intricate details and I just kind of sat and tried to give them as much
21:21information as possible.
21:22Any screenshots that me and the girls had sent each other in the chat and stuff to, like, prove that
21:27we knew it was her.
21:31They couldn't actually get their head round it. It was actually very, very frustrating.
21:35Their words to me were, well, she's not done anything criminal.
21:39Like, apart from maybe data protection, like, she's not really done anything.
21:44Catfishing's not a crime.
21:46And I was kind of like, right, OK, so this is, like, normal behaviour then, like, we've just accept that.
21:52I just thought, why are you allowed to do that? Like, why are you allowed to pretend that you're someone
21:56else?
21:58Especially when you're in a job of power. Like, surely that's not allowed.
22:04When I first heard about the Adele Rennie case, I think the most surprising element is how long it went
22:12on for.
22:14What we call catfishing, creating those fake identities, using those identities to contact, follow victims, isn't a legal term.
22:24It's a term that has become really popular in the media.
22:27And if you walk down to a police station and you say, I've met this person on a dating platform.
22:34We've been in the early stages of a relationship, but something's not right.
22:38It's almost impossible that the police are going to take that case on, because what's the crime?
22:45The minute you say they've stolen £1,000, there's a really clear pathway.
22:51It's fraud. We can investigate that. We can follow the money.
22:54But in these cases, that's not true.
22:58The motives are unclear, unknown.
23:02And so, when a victim is forced to investigate their own crime and try and build that evidence, forcing more
23:10interaction with the perpetrator, the risk for the victim just gets higher and higher.
23:21Because I felt like I wasn't getting taken seriously, I put a post on Facebook just basically warning everybody, saying,
23:28if you've got David Graham as a friend on Facebook, get them deleted now before you get scammed.
23:34He's not a real person. It's actually a girl called Adele Rennie.
23:41I didn't expect my inbox to then start going ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.
23:47And that just one day, it was floods and floods and floods of messages coming through.
23:52People that had all been through similar stuff, like, even worse.
23:58It was actually quite overwhelming, because it wasn't even just females that I was getting messages from.
24:02I was getting messages from people's boyfriends, saying, like, my girlfriend's been through this.
24:07How do you know that it's this girl? Because we've been trying to prove this for ages.
24:12If I was like, wow, like, this is bigger than what I thought it was going to be, like, I
24:16genuinely didn't think it was going to be as big as what it was.
24:18What do you think Adele's motivations are at this point?
24:22I think at the time I was just so confused, because before, I think it was just really easy for
24:27us to just assume that if you're able to buy all these people gifts, is this because you're scamming people
24:33out of money?
24:34Have you ever seen any evidence that she took money off anyone?
24:39Evidence? No.
24:41Did he ever ask you for money?
24:43No.
24:45David Green wasn't asking me for money. He was just making up a string of lies.
24:50That's why I, for a long time, thought this must be real, because I was sending no gifts to him.
24:55It was all one way.
24:57The only thing at that time I could think of why she was doing it was because she wasn't comfortable
25:02with her sexuality and she would rather be with girls.
25:06Did you get a sense the person behind the phone was sexually attracted to you?
25:10Yeah, I definitely thought he was sexually attracted to me.
25:13The phone calls, the messages, I definitely would have thought of that, yeah.
25:17Once we discovered who it was, it was a case of, well, you're basically only talking to females.
25:22So we just assumed that she was maybe someone that isn't confident about coming out.
25:28But when you then went deeper into it, that almost didn't make sense. Like, that couldn't just be the motivation,
25:34there must have been more to it.
25:39I then get a phone call from the police. And that was me kind of thinking, oh, like, I'm getting
25:43some sort of update. And it wasn't. It was basically to say that Adele had filed some sort of harassment
25:48order against me.
25:49I was really surprised.
25:53So she's logged onto Facebook. She's seen that you're sort of outing her on Facebook.
25:57Yeah. At this full moment, it wasn't really getting taken seriously. It was more my reaction that was getting taken
26:03seriously rather than the action of her.
26:06That was her then kind of, like, reverse note on me.
26:16I was kind of like, shit, like, this girl's dangerous. Like, she's so willing to go to the police about
26:22me, knowing that she's in the wrong.
26:24Like, what else is she going to try and pin on me? She's going to try and say that I'm
26:27David Graham.
26:29And I think I got even more scared at that point. I was like, what's she going to do next?
27:00So it was quite annoying to hear that she'd just been interviewed and looked at her.
27:03She'd just been let go. And again, it was like, well, that's it. Like, we're just going to need to
27:10be happy with this.
27:11But she's been warned. We noticed that on Facebook, David's profile had completely disappeared.
27:20And then, obviously, we'd warned quite a few people in Kilmarnock about this happening. It's not, like, that big a
27:25town.
27:26So she'd be stupid to try and do it again because we're all going to know it's her.
27:32However, Grandad is still in the hospital.
27:39Bought a dog and I used to take the dog in to see my Grandad as well.
27:46And he was just sitting like this the full time.
27:52The hospital said, like, it's going to happen quite soon.
27:55So I went and visited and then he died in the night.
28:03Obviously, it's like shit in general, but I think it was just like a pure kick in the teeth because
28:09all that time and effort with Adele,
28:13it consumed, like, months where I should have probably been spending more time with him.
28:22But I did think to myself, at least she's stopped.
28:26Adele's not going to be catfishing anyone else.
28:39I think as soon as Tinder came out, everyone was on it.
28:46It was just exciting to meet people from your phone.
28:51You didn't need to go to bars, you didn't need to go out and socialise and wait on people coming
28:56up to you.
28:57Didn't Tinder make you quite picky?
28:59Very.
29:02It makes you almost on a pedestal that you can just judge these people.
29:06I would swipe left on short men because I liked someone tall.
29:11Men under 5'9 are called friends.
29:12That's what's on my profile.
29:14You were swiping people you knew to start with and then you were putting your distance out a wee bit
29:19and there was all these fresh faces from other areas that you never would have came across.
29:29When I saw that profile, I thought he was very good looking.
29:32Coming across like he had a bit of a life.
29:35To be a doctor, you need to be a certain person, like, you care about people.
29:42So, swipe right.
29:44And it came up a match.
29:46I was like, ooh!
29:47Because it's always a nice feeling if you find someone attractive and they also find you attractive as well.
29:52He was different to other people because I hadn't actually opened up about my personal life to other people I'd
29:58spoken to.
30:00When I was 24, my mother got diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder so she needed care.
30:08It was a really difficult time.
30:10I was basically giving up my job to look after my mum.
30:14I just felt like he understood.
30:17He would say, of course, your mum's your biggest priority.
30:21Like, my family's my biggest priority.
30:23He did just say the right things and made me feel special.
30:28It really did.
30:34Does the name David Graham mean anything to you?
30:37No.
30:38And who is it that you were speaking to?
30:40Matthew Mancini.
30:50Does the name David Graham mean anything to you?
30:53No.
30:54Never heard that name?
30:55Never heard that name.
31:00I've been speaking to Matthew Mancini.
31:05Why did you want to hide your identity?
31:08A lot of people will judge.
31:10And I don't want to be one of those people that are judged for what I believe was a pretty
31:15dark time in my life.
31:18Matthew Mancini was very, very charming.
31:22Flowers were sent.
31:24Bottles of wine were sent.
31:26He knew what to say, when to say it, and how to bring you in.
31:38Was he quite flirty on text?
31:41I would say the flirtiness didn't start straight away.
31:43I would say it was just more respectful.
31:46But then Matthew consistently asked for explicit nude photos.
31:52I declined to send any sort of photo to him.
31:56And he sent me a link.
32:03It was to a porn website.
32:06I'll just have to use this then if you're not going to help me out.
32:10That's when it started to get quite abusive and quite nasty.
32:25We had arranged to meet up and go to the Christmas market.
32:29Do you think you were looking forward to it?
32:31Yeah, definitely.
32:32It just seemed like it was the right time to meet someone, meet them face to face.
32:37And then he sent me a picture of the Christmas tree that him and his nephew had been decorating.
32:43And I'm quite observant. I always look at all the details to see what someone's house is like.
32:48I love interiors.
32:50And I questioned why it was a completely different living room to the one that he sent me a few
32:55days before.
32:57And he got quite defensive and said it was a different part of the house.
33:00And I was just like, you're lying.
33:02And then I just felt sick.
33:05Like, who is this person?
33:07It was enough for me just to block.
33:12And then I got bombarded with calls from a withheld number.
33:18I had, honestly, about 60 missed calls the first day.
33:22Missed call from no caller ID. Missed call from no caller ID.
33:25I had so many missed calls and my voicemail was full.
33:28It wasn't like the friendly voice anymore.
33:31It was angry, frustrated, threatening.
33:34Just answer your phone. Just answer your phone.
33:37He could not accept that I'd been caught out.
33:45Did you think it was all over?
33:47Yeah, I genuinely did.
33:51But then I get a message from someone I know on Facebook.
33:54There's a brand new profile.
33:56He's got the same picture.
33:58He's got the same profession.
34:00But a different name.
34:03Matthew Mancini.
34:05And I'm like, shut the front door.
34:07Like, am I going to need to go through all this again?
34:10We worked out that Adele had started using Tinder
34:13and she's contacted a brand new set of victims.
34:17When you're catfishing on Facebook,
34:19you've got to have friends and family to make yourself more, like, realistic.
34:24But as soon as Tinder came around, it made things for Adele a lot easier
34:27because she didn't need to prove who she was or who she was friends with.
34:31And she could get in contact with people even further afield.
34:37But there was definitely new things where I was like, hmm, like, you're a bit nastier and you're willing to
34:41put people down.
34:42So that's when I realised that it wasn't just happening again, but it was actually getting worse.
34:47Is there anything going to stop this girl?
34:53At this point, I had spoke to police. I had spoke to a hospital. I had spoke to all these
34:58people.
34:59And I'm like, well, if you're not going to believe me, I know who will believe me.
35:09A year into working at the Scottish Sun, roughly, I spoke to Abi Draper.
35:14I instinctively knew that this was a big story.
35:19This is a dictaphone recording of my first ever interview with Abi.
35:23I had a message on Facebook.
35:25And she told me everything that happened to her.
35:28And I barely got a word in because Abi was so keen to tell me everything that had happened.
35:34Straight away, it ticked all the boxes for a good tabloid story.
35:40There was so much on social media.
35:43And there was something that just drew you in towards this character.
35:50Adele Rennie lived in a nice house, appeared to have a nice family around her, was smartly dressed.
35:56If you'd passed her in the street, you wouldn't have given her a second look.
36:01We obviously knew from the beginning that she was a nurse.
36:04And a lot of really kind things were said about her.
36:07We heard that she was one of the most attentive nurses on the ward.
36:11So there was a Jekyll and Hyde side to Adele Rennie going on.
36:20I'm pissed. Hick.
36:23She looks like she loves her night out.
36:25And people were obviously quite happy to be in her company.
36:29And some of the women that I spoke to did say that she was great fun.
36:32There's not a hint of anything sinister about her at all.
36:35So there was a mystery around what was actually motivating Adele Rennie to carry out this pattern of behaviour.
36:43So the goal was obviously to get the story out there, but I also thought with the power of the
36:49media, more victims could come forward.
36:52So I'm thinking if maybe 10 to 20 women are going to the police and then we're all complaining about
36:58the same person, then surely the police are going to arrest her straight away.
37:04But at that point, I didn't even know myself, like, how bad what she done was.
37:18The relationship with Matthew turned toxic.
37:22He puts me down, makes me feel small.
37:26My opinions are invalid.
37:28I'm lying and I'm going crazy.
37:33Messages started to get really nasty.
37:37But when I was one of my friends, I sent out a photo of his excrement, which is so disturbing
37:42and disgusting to me.
37:45I feel like he was trying to play a game, but it was a game of him having full control
37:50and fully enjoyed it.
37:53He would message like, where are you? What time will you finish dinner?
37:58When are you finishing work? When do start work?
38:02there was numerous times that i felt like he was there watching or there whatever i was numerous
38:08times you would always feel that they asking that because he's wanting to watch he's wanting to see
38:17where i am and at that point i thought something's not right i didn't realize that she was physically
38:26going to places speaking to like other victims they were saying like oh she sent me a picture
38:31of outside my work ones they keep sending me all these different presents
38:37most people have called adele a catfisher do you feel like that's accurate
38:42i think adele is a stalker and i think she has used a range of different ways to carry out
38:49her
38:50stalking one of those ways is through what we call catfishing and so she's a stalker
38:55who is using all means at her disposal to stalk her victims obviously flowers where i lived with
39:01my parents at the time to me alarm bells rang because i didn't give him my address it became a
39:07point where he started getting a bit more obsessive and then that's then when i started getting texts
39:13basically seeing where he knew where i was that freaked me out
39:19as the victims become aware that something's wrong adele's behavior changes and becomes
39:26much more physical it becomes following turning up delivering gifts and that behavior is inherently
39:33more risky once more people had came to me and then i started realizing that adele was actually going
39:41to their workplaces or she was going to their house and doing stuff i was kind of like right well
39:45you need to go to the police because that's stalking and then i started thinking so she's been sitting
39:52outside my house she knew what my blinds looked like did she hand deliver my flowers you see we would
40:00have stopped then like something like that and then seen a trampoline and then i was like that's
40:08a stalker oh my god and when we drove to his house he'd never turned up are you thinking why
40:17did she
40:17bring me to bring me to this area this is actually where adele lived the shut up
40:28oh my god i've got actual tingles you're kidding
40:38i just thought she gave me just a random address and she was probably watching me without me knowing it
40:46i feel sick she saved them that bit
40:53you sent me to the area and the place that you live but you gave me a wrong address
41:00like to watch me squeal it's like sending a mouse to a mouse trap
41:13i didn't really feel angry i just felt pretty for her like and now i feel rage and anger and
41:22disgust
41:25adele was there adele was watching me the whole time she was doing this to me and the others
41:32this is not just someone being behind like their keyboard and
41:36pranking or winding someone up this is someone that's taking it to extreme measures
41:41she's not a catfish she's just a monster
41:50there's no doubt that adele has the potential to be dangerous
41:57the offenses that happened away from the internet show that there was potentially a much more sinister
42:04person at play here
42:14it would have become clear to adele her job was potentially on the line and she then seemed to
42:21turn her attention to a senior employee a charge nurse who also worked at crosshouse hospital
42:29adele allegedly pursued the charge nurse in her car drove up very close behind her flashed her lights
42:35she was weaving in and out of traffic and subjected that woman to quite a
42:40frightening ordeal it was obviously an act of intimidation
42:50that would scare the 11 daylights out of you because you'd think that person's capable of doing
42:54that that person's going to be capable of doing a lot worse
42:58like this girl doesn't stop what's she going to do next
43:01and i'm like literally batting down the hatches waiting for adele to escalate
43:11every time i stopped the car it was like a 360 check
43:15making sure the doors were locked actually putting like hoovers against the door
43:20never in a million years could have imagined that i was about to walk into two detectives sitting
43:26on the couch i dropped what i was doing and i just went straight down to kilmarnock sheriff court
43:31you don't want to believe that your child's capable of these kind of things why what why would you do
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