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00:00THE END
00:07One, take two.
00:12Have no fear, everybody. I'm here. Thank God.
00:16Don't worry, I'm here.
00:21I always feel slightly embarrassed
00:24that I missed the off-the-rail stuff starting.
00:28I want a hat. I want a hat.
00:31You know, no-one was looking side to side to see how everyone was.
00:39We were just going forwards.
00:44You know, we were never a band that sat there in each other's rooms
00:48and talked about how we were feeling.
00:51There was never any of that talk.
00:54Within the band, we didn't really ask those questions.
01:00I don't think any of us were capable of those kind of conversations.
01:09Oh, so here they are tonight. It's Gary followed by Robbie and his booze hell.
01:14Just ask me mum if she likes my T-shirt.
01:16Your mum won't talk to you anymore now.
01:18I sort of started seeing the change in Robbie.
01:22He was kind of like jumping up and down on the stage of his bulbous eye.
01:29With all this fucking energy.
01:35But he did look like he was on something.
01:45He just didn't seem to want to be part of Take That anymore.
01:48And he was being more rebellious and more belligerent.
01:52Turn that off.
01:54Just seemed to lose complete interest.
01:57And it frustrated all of us lot.
01:59I just thought it was someone who didn't give a shit about us.
02:03You know, he just don't care.
02:05That's what, that's what I put it down to.
02:08I was so depressed.
02:10And I was going back to my hotel down in a bottle of neat vodka.
02:16And I just drink myself into oblivion.
02:22I'd gone.
02:24I'd physically and mentally gone.
02:47We had to start rehearsing for the biggest tour we were going to do.
02:53As the band had matured and gone on...
02:55We just started to pick up instruments.
02:59And it was really exciting actually.
03:04I was on bass.
03:05I was on drums.
03:07Jay's on guitar.
03:08I was on keys.
03:09Rob doing vocals.
03:10We were trying to cross a bit more into the world that Rob wanted to enter.
03:16And then Rob went to Glastonbury.
03:32And then Rob came back and he was absolutely wasted.
03:38And he went upstairs and I had a bit of a kip.
03:46I think the lack of interest was obvious and I think that Gaz and Jay got pretty pissed off about
03:52that.
03:58I was 19, 20.
04:01And I was, you know, I was in the middle of being a raging alcoholic.
04:04It was the worst for my alcoholism at that time.
04:08Because I'd wake up and I couldn't start the day or do the day without probably downing a bottle of
04:14vodka.
04:16And then I'd go into these rehearsals the next day that I wasn't fit to do.
04:20Because my body would be full of crap.
04:23And my head would hurt.
04:25And, um, I couldn't take in information at the best of times.
04:32I think it had to come to a meeting.
04:35The guys that, you know, we're doing this big show.
04:37We're putting everything we've got into this.
04:39You need to pick it up.
04:43Something just snapped inside my head.
04:45You know, and I went, well, then I'll leave.
04:49Jason said, well, if you're gonna go, just go now, then.
04:53I remember just sitting there thinking, what's happening?
04:57I stood up.
04:58Walked across the room and I got to the door.
05:01And I looked back at them and I think, we're thinking, this is it.
05:05And they looked at me.
05:07And then I walked through the door.
05:12And I thought, it'll be back tomorrow.
05:15I've seen this sort of thing before, it'll be back tomorrow.
05:20I got in the car and asked you at the time, Paul said,
05:24OK, I'll be back on Thursday to come and pick you up.
05:25And, Paul, I'm not coming back on Thursday.
05:28All right, Friday then, I'll be at your house at 9.30 in the morning to come pick you up.
05:32I said, Paul, I don't think you understand. I'm not coming back.
05:35And then I started to cry.
05:45We woke up the next morning and it was some newspaper thing of Robbie had split from the band.
05:55Kind of a little bit devastating.
05:57You know, you ask yourself loads of questions, what's going to happen now?
06:00Take that star Robbie Williams has announced he's quitting the band.
06:04The teeny band take that.
06:06Robbie Williams has quit, citing too much pressure.
06:09Can they carry on without him?
06:11Happy Robbie!
06:13The message from the fans is clear. They want Robbie back and them mystified by his departure.
06:19He's been in the band since he was 16.
06:20He hasn't had his childhood. He's not been allowed to grow on.
06:23Something's happened. But I don't think we'll find out for quite a while yet.
06:29Really odd couple of days. Really odd. And it sounds quite throwaway.
06:37For what happened to be one of the most important things that ever happened to our group.
06:41Him leaving.
06:47I think if we all knew it was going to be that moment, we'd have done it.
06:52We'd have all wanted it to be different after all that time together.
06:59It's just a skinless.
07:01But it was sort of off the cuff and casual and...
07:05These things are never... They never happen the way you read them.
07:10It... It's... It's trickier. It's... It's more complex.
07:19It's another TV heatwave on Steve Wright's People Show!
07:27And here they are. They're Britain's biggest fans.
07:30We were, you know, all so young then.
07:33Talking on television for the first time since the big story this week.
07:37I wasn't in a place where I'd sit down with Gaz and Howard and say,
07:40Oh, you know, what should we do about this?
07:44I think the first time we were asked about how do I feel was by somebody on a TV show.
07:50To Mark from Rachel Wilson of Selly Oak, Birmingham.
07:53Do you cry? And if so, when was the last time?
07:56And...
08:03Yeah, we're moving then.
08:07The near hysterical fans were rewarded with an impromptu walkabout by the four remaining members of Take That, while police
08:14struggled to keep control.
08:15It was kind of strange, really.
08:17Look at this!
08:20It's a bit big, innit?
08:22Because, for me, Rob was like the brother.
08:25I couldn't have imagined the band experience without him.
08:32But, er, we knew we had three weeks to do a show.
08:36That would be the orchestra there, and then from the back would be 30 piece choirs.
08:40And that was our way through.
08:42You know, we had to learn the show again.
08:44We had to learn it for four instead of for five.
08:48Fuck.
08:49We've got to do it.
08:50Can't cancel the show.
08:54And so we turned the attention to ours.
08:57To getting our show ready.
09:00Take That kicked off their tour in Manchester at the weekend without Robbie Williams.
09:08Do you know what?
09:09This is our fifth tour together as Take That.
09:12But on this tour, as you can probably see, there's something a little bit different.
09:16There's only four of us.
09:21Obviously, in the back of my mind, it was like start a solo career, be big.
09:24You know, but there was no plan.
09:28The plan was just to numb everything out, because I was in so much pain.
09:33I mean, we get to hear a lot about Robbie's side of things.
09:37Yeah, we do, don't we?
09:39Nigel.
09:41As a manager, he never managed me.
09:44He managed Gary Barlow.
09:48I only wanted him to love me.
09:50And he never did.
09:53For me, it was a sense of relief, because if someone's unhappy in the work, they're best going to work
10:00somewhere else.
10:01Hi, I'm...
10:02Robbie Williams!
10:04And I'm on the...
10:05And when Robbie left the group, he wanted to undo everything Nigel had done.
10:11Let me ask you how you feel about Nigel Martin Smith.
10:16After all these years, she had enough of saying things in interviews weren't true.
10:22So how did you meet? I mean, are you all friends from school?
10:23No, what it was, it was a combination of two bands.
10:26We was always told of Nigel, don't ever say, you know, you was put together.
10:31I was working with Gary.
10:32I was working with Alden Nicole, doing a bit of a dance, rap act kind of thing.
10:36The manager got the two bands together.
10:38I was thinking, I don't ask that fucking question, because I don't want to trip up and I don't want
10:41to be in trouble with Nigel.
10:42We've always been friends.
10:44And now Robbie wanted to say whatever was on his mind.
10:48I'm doing my own thing. I'm writing my own stuff.
10:51Shagbirds.
10:55And so, of course, what then happens is that we're sat in this place where, oh, hang on a minute.
11:02That looks quite refreshing where Rob is.
11:05That looks quite interesting.
11:08We're still here doing this.
11:19So it was inevitable that we wanted to get out of that world too.
11:30Everyone was a bit lethargic, weary. Rob had gone, how long can this last for?
11:38There's a rumour going round that I'll take that, I'm going to split it all after this tour.
11:44That rumour is definitely not true.
12:06My man. Sorry, dude. I'm just kidding. Come on.
12:10Sorry.
12:10The future of pop group Take That is unclear.
12:14There's been much speculation about the future of the band since Robbie Williams left last year.
12:18After months of speculation, the news that every Take That fan had been dreading.
12:24Thanks for everybody's support in the last five years. You've been absolutely fantastic to us.
12:29But unfortunately, the rumours are true.
12:32How Deep Is Your Love is going to be our last single together.
12:35And The Greatest Hits is going to be our last album.
12:39And from today, there's no more.
12:45We'd all taken a holiday for a few weeks.
12:49And in that holiday, Gary and Nigel had spoken.
12:53Gary said, listen, now's the time. And he gave his reasons. I want to go solo.
12:57It was me that went into a room and said to everybody, this is what we should do.
13:02And everyone just went, yeah, great.
13:05I remember thinking, thank God.
13:09We just had a 14-year-old fan phone in in tears. What's your message to her?
13:14We're sorry, I suppose.
13:16We always said we'd finish on top.
13:18And it is very good for our careers ahead of us.
13:20So I think we're making the right move.
13:24I was holding on so tight to this group.
13:28I felt a bit of anger.
13:32We were four-piece and we were still successful.
13:34We sold out a tour. We had number ones.
13:36It's like, well, why?
13:40On the last tour, Howard said, even though Rob is left, take that I'd be going to be around for
13:45a long time.
13:46You mean you think they'd betrayed you?
13:47Well, yeah. I feel as though they'd lied to us all.
13:50I feel really hurt because it's just a big part of my life and now it's over.
13:54He said to be around for as long as the fans wanted him, but the fans still want him.
13:57Just quit.
14:00Take That hysteria reaches a new level as fans collapse in front of their hotel in Germany.
14:05The screaming which has accompanied the band throughout their career is increasing in pitch as Take That prepare to wind
14:12up for good.
14:13It wasn't the same. The sparkle had gone.
14:20It was just starting to turn and it felt like the exit was the best place to be.
14:27We split up because we needed to, we wanted to.
14:30We're really happy about the decision.
14:32Sad as well because we're going to miss each other and miss the vibe.
14:36That's how it happened.
14:39That's how it happened.
14:39That's how it happened.
15:06It wasn't hitting me when I was in that last performance.
15:10It's not the last song we're ever going to sing.
15:13I wasn't thinking that way.
15:15I was just, just going through the motions really I guess.
15:19You're in control of your own life now starting tomorrow morning.
15:22Isn't that a bit frightening?
15:24Tomorrow we all go our separate ways in a way.
15:27I mean we'll still see each other but it is a very sad time and a little bit of a
15:30numb feeling.
15:31It has been very difficult to grow up under these extreme conditions because it's an important period of your life
15:36from let's say 18 to 27.
15:38I've not lost too much of what life's all about.
15:42Hopefully, anyway, I'll know tomorrow.
15:43I'll give you a bell and let you know if I'm struggling.
16:03It's been a very emotional month for us really.
16:07And today's the last day, the finale.
16:14There wasn't really time for us to sit down and work out how do we do this.
16:23It was all happening in real time.
16:26Hysterical fans besieged Amsterdam's top hotel in a desperate bid to catch a final glimpse of their idols before they
16:33split up.
16:36There was something in the air on that last day.
16:44It felt real all of a sudden.
16:47Our world had come to a close.
16:51And I wasn't sure.
16:54It was something that wasn't right.
16:59It hit me the hardest simply because of the fact that I was thinking,
17:02well, what am I going to do now?
17:03I'm only trained at being a pop star.
17:06You know, a bit of paint spraying.
17:09So it hit me quite hard.
17:17I was ready.
17:19I can't wait to tell people that I'm coming home.
17:25The hardest bit was trying to find a way home.
17:36You go home and you're kind of in disbelief.
17:38Become a farmer.
17:40I feel like I was the only one that didn't grow up.
17:44And everyone else did.
17:47Even though I was the oldest.
17:48What are you feeling?
17:51Everybody watched what was happening and prepared themselves for the end.
17:56Whereas I was in this dream.
17:58I was like, oh, it's going to keep going and going and going and going and going.
18:01We are number one!
18:03You know, because when I was in school, I was a nobody, really.
18:07I wasn't very clever.
18:09I didn't go to university.
18:11I never, ever dreamt of being successful.
18:17I never thought I would be anything.
18:21And I felt like a superhero being up on that stage.
18:34I was almost going towards a depressive state.
18:39And then I decided to go to the Thames.
18:43The state of my mind at that time, I was seriously thinking of jumping in the Thames.
18:50Thinking that I wanted to kill myself.
18:53But I'm just too much of a shitbag to do it.
19:00My immediate plan after the band was to go off to the Lake District.
19:04I took my tent and went camping for a couple of weeks.
19:08We're all knackered, exhausted.
19:11I just wanted to have a nice long rest and have a little think.
19:14And after that, I didn't have any plans.
19:18I think for myself, Howard and Mark, it was take that was just take that.
19:22It was where we were at now, you know.
19:25I think take that to Gary and Robbie was always a stepping stone to where they wanted to get to.
19:31I always felt like I spent most of the 90s worrying.
19:36I was a real worrier.
19:39Worried about the band.
19:43Worried about us.
19:44Hey, boys. Listen, let's do it for real life.
19:47Worrying about the music.
19:50Worrying about the gig.
19:51Are you ready, boys? We're going to do this interview.
19:53But by the time we decided we would finish in,
19:57I just felt like, oh, all I've got to do is worry about me now.
20:02Just felt like a real weight off my shoulders.
20:05I was keen for a new chapter to start.
20:10At that point, I was on a massive wave of confidence.
20:17So often I just drive out to somewhere like this to get a bit of a break from it all.
20:21And I'm never bored either, being on my own.
20:24I think only boring people get bored.
20:26And this was the biggest my ego's ever been.
20:29I love being sat at the piano.
20:31You know, another way to relax when I come home is to just sit and play.
20:35I mean, you just think the world owes you everything.
20:38When you've been at that height, you just think everything you touch,
20:42everything that moves, turns to triple platinum.
20:45Today sees the release of Gary's first solo single.
20:49Robbie's comes out at the end of the month.
20:51Fans are reserving copies of both singles.
20:53But Gary's in the lead and tipped to be number one.
20:57I will buy both, but I think Gary's better.
21:00This is where the Gary Robbie stuff started.
21:09This week, the World Media Circus was summoned to his press conference.
21:12Robbie could talk about what he's up to next.
21:16Robbie, why are we here?
21:17You're into asking questions.
21:20Robbie was feeding off the press a bit.
21:22He'd become friends with some of the press.
21:24What do you think of Gary's single?
21:26I'd love to say it's not my cup of tea, but it's all right.
21:30In fact, it's awful.
21:34That's when it got nasty, and it was just not needed.
21:40Would you piss on Gary if he was on fire?
21:44Oh, that would be left between me and Gary.
21:47That's the first bit of negativity I felt.
21:50Like, serious negativity that went in the brain negativity.
21:55Robbie, which other ex-Take That Band members do you think will succeed?
21:58Jason's got a really good patron decorator, I'm sure.
22:03I don't understand it at all.
22:05I don't understand how anybody can sit there after being so close to people for so long and to say
22:12the things he does.
22:13I think it's Rob's way of staying famous.
22:16It had all become talking to one another through the press.
22:19What do you think about Gary Barlow? Because he said something yesterday that wasn't very nice.
22:23He said, Robbie hurt us, and until now we were afraid to say, but, Robbie, you're a dickhead.
22:27Well, I am.
22:28You know, let's face it, Robbie is ten times more popular than me.
22:32He always will be on fuel.
22:34But let's hear these songs that are easy to write.
22:36I'm dying to hear them.
22:39Do you know I'm doing a cover version?
22:41Because I can.
22:42It's more of a statement than a single, to tell you the truth.
22:45The statement is, I'm free now to do whatever I want.
22:48It's very ironic, isn't it, that Gary says he, and has made no secret of the fact he wants to
22:52be the next George Michael,
22:53yet Robbie has chosen a George Michael cupboard.
22:56Everything that Robbie has been doing, really, has been sort of trying to railroad Gary and kind of shove him
23:02off the road.
23:02That's when it became really competitive.
23:08New solo number one, exclusive, the top of the promise, Mr. Gary Barlow.
23:13Now my dreams are filled with times when we're together
23:24Just what I need from her is forever love
23:31We were both trying to do the same thing, and, you know, only one person can win.
23:38Gary went straight at number one, Robbie number two.
23:42Do you feel any pressure from that?
23:43I'm number three.
23:46As soon as we finished, we'd take that.
23:50Linda, will you ask me about my solo career?
23:54No, ask me. Ask me about my solo career.
23:57I just pretty much started writing straight away.
24:02I'd written my songs on my piano at home, and I was writing for myself.
24:09Rob lived in St. John's Wood, and I was recording at Abbey Road.
24:13So he came to visit a couple of times, which was lovely.
24:18And Howard came and sang on Clementine.
24:26And Jason came to the studio, and I remember I was so much wanting to impress Jay that I forgot
24:34to eat all day and then fainted.
24:39So, emotionally, we were probably all a little bit. We didn't have a plan.
24:44Ladies and gentlemen, the future's bright. The future's Jason Orange!
24:50From the day I left the band, I've been thinking, what shall I do next? What am I good at?
24:55Look, you're acting now.
24:56I'm going to play, Graham, and I want you to see it.
24:59I bought some flyers, everybody.
25:00Oh, that's lovely.
25:02I started having acting lessons, thinking I was going to be an actor.
25:07You'll piss off right now, or I'll smash your fucking face through that wall.
25:12Goodnight.
25:13But I didn't like it, so I stopped.
25:18You just start to question life.
25:20When you've been an ex-pop star, when you've not got a job, there's a lot of time in the
25:25day to sit around and think about things.
25:31The truth of the matter was that my album wasn't hitting the numbers.
25:36You have no need to think.
25:40I mean, the album has done very well.
25:42I knew it.
25:42But the album didn't do so well on the charts over here, did it?
25:45We've taken that, everything went in at number one, number one, and number one, and that's what you got used
25:48to.
25:49And eventually I got dropped.
25:57You start to feel very negative about yourself.
26:07Here we are in Cuba, the second day of the show.
26:15Nigel looked after me after the band.
26:17Said, right, you're contracted to do a solo career.
26:25And it invigorated me again and made me hungry.
26:32But when you're on your own, you're thinking, shit, I'm exposed here.
26:43To be honest with you, I didn't have any confidence in what I was doing.
26:49I knew, deep down, it wasn't for me.
26:54You have to believe in yourself 200% and that you are the dog's bollocks.
26:59And I never did.
27:02The truth is, other than Gary, we were all struggling to do it on our own.
27:07Including Robbie.
27:11And yes, welcome to Robbie Williams!
27:16Let's go straight to line four, I think.
27:18No, it's Nora Carr from Livington.
27:20Hello, Laura, you're through to Robbie. What's your question?
27:22Um, hi Robbie.
27:23Hi.
27:23I was just wondering what your ideal Christmas present would be.
27:29Erm...
27:29Number one.
27:31That would be my ideal Christmas present.
27:33Number one?
27:33Yeah.
27:34What do you think the chances are in number one?
27:36Zilch.
27:37Really?
27:38Oh, no.
27:39I'd been in a band that had sold 20 million albums and I had eight number ones and my album
27:45was doing terribly.
27:47Angels was probably my last hope of getting my foot holding on any sort of career.
27:53Go and prepare your voice and get ready with your lovely group. Your group over there.
27:56My group.
27:57Vagabond.
27:57Here he is. He is a beautiful new single. Beautiful new single is what I was trying to say.
28:00It's called Angels. It's Robbie Williams.
28:17Angels.
28:18One of the songs that I think probably everybody's been singing in this country this year.
28:21So, please welcome Mr Robbie Williams.
28:26Angels.
28:28It's just everyone loves it. It's a lovely tune. It's a brilliant tune. Everyone loves it straight away.
28:33And there's a rather magnificent Robbie Williams.
28:39It's a great song. A great song.
28:43What are we doing?
28:44We're loving angels and stars. And through it. Oh, she offers me protection.
28:55Once he had that song, that was it.
28:58Robbie Williams.
29:00It's been played at Hatches, Matches and Dispatches. Births, weddings and funerals. And that's great. As if we just get
29:08a still.
29:09My records were sort of going in, yeah, at number one. But they weren't hanging around for months.
29:16Ticket sales and records have exploded, haven't they?
29:19Yeah.
29:22That must be really hard.
29:25He was just untouchable from that moment.
29:28I remember sat there thinking, well, that's it. I can't catch that. I mean, how am I going to do
29:36that?
29:36And the winner is...
29:38Robbie Williams!
29:40Robbie Williams!
29:41Robbie Williams!
29:41Robbie Williams!
29:42Robbie Williams!
29:43And the only way I could see was going to America. I've got to leave the country here. And so
29:49I did that. And I did a nine-month radio tour.
29:54I don't know who Gary Barlow is.
29:56Ken Barlow? Who is he?
29:57Not Robbie, the other one.
29:59It started to dawn on me, nothing's happening here. And all this is happening at home, because the news comes
30:05across. By this point, Robbie's now an album in multi-platinum, this, that and the other.
30:12I'm rich beyond my wildest dreams!
30:15I was incredibly competitive, so, yeah, I think I was jealous, yeah.
30:30I'm happy.
30:33You know, where Rob's got to is just too big.
30:47And I specifically remember going back to the UK.
30:52And on my way to the station, I got a call from RCA, saying, you know, we've looked at your
31:00options, and we're going to drop you as an artist.
31:05And I thought, I've now got no record deal. And so I got on the train, I went to Cheshire,
31:10and that was it.
31:12Gary Barlow, the man voted most likely to succeed post-take that, has been ditched by his record label.
31:20When we got to the 90s and the group started, all them, all those gigs, thousands of gigs, shitty clubs.
31:29People talking all the way through your set, slowly working out to win an audience over, learning how to write,
31:36writing songs, hundreds and hundreds of songs.
31:39The learning, the learning, the practicing, the singing, the vocal lessons, the performing, that all these things led to us
31:46walking on to the stage at Wembley Arena.
31:50And I just thought, this makes sense, this does. I've done all this work. I feel great. I'm ready for
31:56this.
31:57And you carry on, and you build up, and you're going all over the world, and I felt prepared for
32:02everything.
32:04And that was the bit I wasn't prepared for. It's like, oh, is that it? What am I going to
32:12do for the rest of my life?
32:15Because, because that's it with music now. I mean, I can't even walk down the street now without someone shouting
32:23something about Robbie to me, so I don't want to do that anymore.
32:26What's Robbie's story?
32:27I'm getting massive hits, and my old friends are jealous.
32:32How many copies exactly is your album sold now?
32:35Oh, just a million.
32:36Yes! Come on!
32:38I saw the shit that Gary went through. When you're solo singer, and then you stop selling, you're going to
32:45get pointed at, and have the piss taken out of you.
32:48None of us can sing.
32:49Oh, don't you worry a pretty little head about that. Your job's to dance about and distract the audience from
32:53Gary's beer gut.
32:54Eh?
32:55I'm joking, of course.
32:56I'm not.
32:58Gary, you're probably best if you stand behind the keyboard.
33:02I saw it all, and watched it all.
33:05Oi, Faye, have some lunch.
33:08You just...
33:10Yeah, you were obsessed with it, the whole thing, you know.
33:13This is the Brits 25.
33:15When Rob went on the Brits.
33:17All those things, I watched them all.
33:19Back from Take That, please welcome Jerry Barlow and Howard Donald.
33:23What ever you said, what ever you did, what you just want to do.
33:32Here's Robbie!
33:36Sorry, Gary.
33:39But I was always the talented member of the band.
33:45My problem's always been with Gary.
33:48My problem always was with Gary.
33:51I wanted to crush him.
33:54I wanted to crush the memory of the band, you know.
34:00And I didn't let go.
34:02Even when he was down, I didn't let go.
34:06When Rob, you know, said I was the talent, it's just, that was the shame for me.
34:11You're just like the butt of a joke.
34:13Gary Barlow is nice, he's a nice guy, but he can't sing, he can't dance and he can't write songs.
34:20It was just so excruciating to, you just wanted to crawl into a hole.
34:26And there was a period of about 13 months where I didn't leave the house once.
34:33And I'd also started to put weight on, and the more weight I put on, the less people would recognise
34:40me.
34:41I thought, well, this is good.
34:43This is what I've been waiting for, living a normal life.
34:46And so I went on this mission then.
34:48If the food passed me, I'd just eat it.
34:51And I'd killed the pop star.
34:54I would have these nights where I'd eat and eat and eat.
34:58But however I felt about myself, I felt ten times worse the day after.
35:05And then one day I thought, you know what, I've been out, it's ten o'clock, I've eaten too much.
35:11I need to get rid of this food.
35:17You just go off to a dark corner of the house and just throw up, make yourself sick.
35:24And you just think, it's only once. It's only once.
35:28And all of a sudden, you're walking down that corridor again and again.
35:33Is this it? Is this what I'm going to be doing forever?
35:38He went through a really hard time.
35:42I think Gary was like a casualty of Robbie's success.
35:48Gary was going to be the big star, he was going to be the next George Michael.
35:52And it wasn't, it was Robbie.
35:55I just didn't like what Robbie had become.
35:59It was quite hurtful, because Gary was my mate.
36:02And, you know, I was obviously going to stick up for Gary.
36:06I just felt a lot of hatred towards Robbie.
36:10Maybe jealousy of his success.
36:13And the fact that he's taking the piss and getting more and more successful.
36:19It made it even worse.
36:21You want to see him fall down.
36:23You want to see him fall on their arse, you know.
36:28I went through a period where I didn't see Rob for a few years.
36:31I miss Rob not being in my life like it was then, you know.
36:35I missed him from when he left and I miss him being a close friend.
36:37I'm so excited.
36:39Oh, calm down now, Marky.
36:41Oh, we know it's still time.
36:45It's still time.
36:46On occasion.
36:48We've got together now and again.
36:51At Neverworth we got on stage together.
36:53And in the taste of separation, you have sailed at being free.
37:00Can't you find a little human side?
37:05Mark always, ladies and gentlemen.
37:12I'm so excited.
37:14I'm so excited.
37:15I'm so excited.
37:16I'm so excited.
37:16I'm so excited.
37:16In 99 I had my first child.
37:19Which was Grace.
37:20My little girl.
37:22Which is a real whack to the head.
37:24And a real wake up call.
37:28Automatically you start having money worries.
37:31All of a sudden my money's dwindling.
37:34I've got to look after it.
37:35I've got to go to a smaller house.
37:37And reality again kicks you in the head.
37:40It's like, well, this is your life, son.
37:45You're not a pop star anymore.
37:46Hello, darling.
37:48Gary had Daniel in 2000.
37:53And that was the real great thing between us.
37:57I'd go to his house.
37:58I'd take Grace.
38:02It's the last time we ever fucking invite you, lad.
38:07Oh, you're so cruel.
38:09This was when he was going through his bad period of, you know, putting on weight.
38:16What I had growing alongside me, I'd got married and we were having kids.
38:22Thank God there was something else to do.
38:26Half of my brain was like, Dad, looking after the kids, loving it.
38:32While the other half of your brain's thinking, oh, you know, who are you now?
38:38You're waking up every day with this massive shadow.
38:43This incredible guilt.
38:46I've tried to hide it from everyone.
38:49I was so ashamed of it.
38:51Then you get out of bed and you've got to go, hey, everyone, I'm going into the studio now.
38:58And Dad would go off to do his day's work and I'd literally sit in there watching the piano, thinking,
39:04I used to write big hits on that thing.
39:07Now the piano was the enemy.
39:09I'd sit in there and I'd look at the clock and I'd come out at four and go, anyway, that
39:14was a good day.
39:15And I'd act this day of being in the studio, pretending I was doing something, I was doing nothing.
39:23I mean, it's awful, awful.
39:26And it went on for years.
39:33And then one day I got a call off Nigel.
39:40And he was saying, we need a band meeting.
39:43It was like a band, I'm not in a band.
39:46I haven't been in a band for years.
39:50Sony have come to him and said they want to do like a documentary.
39:57It was the thought of seeing everybody again.
40:00I thought, I've got to do something.
40:02What can I, what can I do to break this?
40:05And I looked in this cupboard and there was a pair of our old, like, trainers we used to do
40:12our performances in.
40:13And I dusted them off and put them on.
40:16And I went for a run.
40:20I'd like you to look into the lens please and say, my name is Jason Orange and this is Take
40:23That For The Record.
40:26That's the title.
40:28Are you having a laugh?
40:29No, seriously.
40:30Everyone else has done it.
40:35Do you know how difficult this is?
40:37Ta-da!
40:39You just think, I'm going to be a pop star for the weekend, you know.
40:44Put on the clothes that looks as pop star as possible.
40:48The suit jacket with a t-shirt underneath with a big scarf and a beanie hat and looking like I'm
40:54still wealthy.
40:56It was all a bit false.
41:02I was so out of practice.
41:04Oh God, sorry. Shit.
41:06It was an almost out of body experience sitting back in that chair and being lit and having a mic
41:12put on.
41:13It was so weird to do that.
41:17The kids just thought it was the best thing ever.
41:20Cameras all round the house and they kept disturbing us and interrupting us.
41:25It was chaos the whole day.
41:26Is that it?
41:28Dan, you're going to have to go out son if you keep trumping like that.
41:34Hi, my name's Gary Barlow.
41:38Any good?
41:40I got stoned before I went in there because I didn't know how I was going to deal with it.
41:47Bark had just done Big Brother and he was sort of getting back on the saddle a bit.
41:52Owen, you are the winner of Celebrity Big Brother.
41:58First off, why are you taking part in this film?
42:06Erm...
42:07You know, going back to that time, you know, there's a bit of uncertainty about the whole thing.
42:12Say hello.
42:14Take That was about five people.
42:18And...
42:19I never really got to know everybody individually and everybody's perspective.
42:24And I think that it will do everybody a lot of good.
42:27It's been quite, you know, up and down since the band.
42:32Everyone was kind of lost.
42:35The most lost was me.
42:37I had less answers than everyone else.
42:40I think that was a shock.
42:42Well, I bet it Howard, £100, that Robbie shows up.
42:45It's like this play.
42:47Anybody know anything?
42:50We know he's not going to turn up.
42:52Guys, we asked Robbie to come tonight.
42:54They were just going on and keeping the suspense going all the way through this interview and...
42:59He's declined.
43:01It was just bullshit.
43:04I'd quite like to play the messages that he's recording for you.
43:07We definitely felt ambushed.
43:10Howard, I sincerely apologise for any upset that I may have caused you.
43:17To Jay, I'm really sorry.
43:19We all had different feelings about Rob at that point.
43:22You know, Mark missed him. Jason missed him.
43:26I hated him.
43:29Gaz, you're an amazing songwriter.
43:32I apologise for saying that you weren't.
43:34You just... you have an amazing voice.
43:45Got it, Owen.
43:49What would you want to say back?
43:53I think we've... Oh, I've definitely said it in my interviews.
43:56I was carrying so, so much stuff at that point.
44:05I was, you know, really nervous initially about the whole thing.
44:09I think it was something that...
44:12Like I said, we've all worked through it and tried to put it to bed in our own way.
44:16But I don't think any of us really ever had.
44:18I mean, I don't ever see us getting back up on stage together again.
44:23We just felt, right, they're going to make this documentary and then we just move on with our own lives
44:28after that.
44:33They did the premiere in Notting Hill.
44:36They'd invited quite a lot of names.
44:39It was the first time, I think, as a band, we actually went out in public in ten years.
44:47We were all a little bit nervous.
44:49What's it going to be like?
44:50And, you know, we actually said, what we're doing, you know, what the hell are we doing?
44:54Gary!
44:55Big time nerd.
44:57It's quite scary.
44:59You look on the floor, there's a big puddle of wee.
45:04We knew the documentary was coming out the next day, but we didn't have a clue what it was going
45:10to be like.
45:13We didn't really know what reception it would have, whether anybody even cared.
45:20I mean, it could have been a disaster.
45:25As we bring all five together for the first time in ten years.
45:30This is Take That for the record.
45:38I used to get the train up and down to London all the time.
45:41And I had, like, an outfit I used to wear for the train.
45:47It was quite a big jacket that used to zip up quite high above my lip.
45:51And I used to have this one grey hat.
45:54Got this text as I was getting on the train saying,
45:58Congratulations, everybody.
45:59We were the most watched of any channel last night.
46:04And I thought,
46:06Oh, wow.
46:07That's the first, like, piece of career good news I've had in about six years.
46:16And I just sat there and I unzipped my coat.
46:22And I just thought, I'm alright being me today.
46:25This is alright. This is nice.
46:28And then a woman come up to me and she went,
46:31Oh, my God.
46:32We saw the documentary last night.
46:36And we were dancing and we were singing along.
46:39Oh, just wanted to tell you.
46:40It was brilliant.
46:41Well done.
46:43And it was just lovely.
46:46Absolutely.
46:47It was like gold.
46:52We were in London together a few days later.
46:56Just to, you know, have a drink.
46:58And we all got pretty pissed.
47:01It was funny.
47:03It was just a funny situation, talking about stuff.
47:07And Mark had this folded over piece of paper.
47:13And it was from Simon Moran, concert promoter.
47:18You guys, as a four, could go and sell 30 arenas.
47:26What? No way.
47:27That's not gonna happen.
47:28We're not gonna fill that out.
47:30We sat there for a bit and we didn't really know what to say to one another.
47:34How the hell are we gonna do this, you know?
47:37And then we said, should we ring Jay?
47:41Hey Jay, we're in this bar.
47:43We've got this crazy offer on the table here.
47:47We're all looking at it.
47:48Where are you?
47:49And he said, you're never gonna believe it.
47:51I'm 20 minutes away.
47:53Just stay there.
47:54I'm on my way.
47:56It just seemed obvious to me straight away that they were far too drunk to make sensible decisions.
48:03This conversation started of, like, doubts.
48:09A lot of lack of confidence.
48:13We said, could we really do this again?
48:17And we sang Pray.
48:19All I do is now is pray.
48:21And we did the arms.
48:24That movement, the hands out, I always think that that is opening your heart.
48:31I think we'd all closed up for various reasons.
48:35And we all wanted to go and open up again.
48:39And we all went, da, da, da.
48:42And we did the moves at the bar table, you know.
48:45Da, da.
48:46And we're like, shit, can you remember it?
48:48And we're like, I can't remember it.
48:49It was that up, down, up, down for about two or three hours.
48:55And it was, like, massive excitement.
48:57And then it was like, right, everybody, last drinks, we're kicking you out.
49:02I said, lads, my flat's round the corner, let's go round there.
49:05So we ended up going round my flat.
49:08More talking, more chatting.
49:10And we sat and chatted for about four hours.
49:14The sun was coming up.
49:15Everyone was like, well, we need to make a decision, don't we?
49:19And we all went, we've got to do it.
49:44And we all went, we've got to do it.
49:48And I never came in.
49:51The nights were always warm with you.
49:56Holding you right by my side.
50:00And the morning always comes to receive me.
50:05Before I even close my eyes.
50:11We were always hungry.
50:12I know you were gonna keep you on the ground.
50:13Yeah.
50:28Very easy.
50:28You're waiting for the night.
50:29You're waiting for the night.
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