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00:00:07you
00:00:08You've all agreed to come here to take an unconventional approach to find love
00:00:14How are you good, how are you good, what was your name do it do it I'm
00:00:24Think you're kind of sometimes sort of okay cool
00:00:30Do you want to get married?
00:00:37Romeo Romeo
00:00:39If you feel as if you've found that special connection you can invite that person into the promise room. I'm
00:00:4554
00:00:45My son is older than you. I had a child before he was even born from 27
00:01:00I'm 60
00:01:02He's 33 years older than me
00:01:05Jorge's literally the same age as my parents
00:01:11Now it's time to take things to the next level as you'll all move in together and begin to ask
00:01:16the tough questions
00:01:17Do we see a future together? The real world is about to smack us in the face
00:01:21Do you see me as somebody that's you know as your equal or do you see me as somebody who
00:01:26is lesser because you're older than I am?
00:01:28You have to trust your partner and I have to trust mine if we don't if you don't have that
00:01:33Okay, I'm really done. Okay, can I get this mic off him please?
00:01:37I've never felt this way for someone before
00:01:41I can't believe you right now
00:01:46It's kind of like the honeymoon phase was the retreat and we're already past the honeymoon phase
00:01:50This is where things get real
00:01:54Because it's time to introduce your bold new love story
00:01:58To the people who matter most your friends your families if like my kids are here, and they're like mom
00:02:07This is not good. I don't know if I could move forward with them
00:02:11Meeting our family is another step my nervous about introducing
00:02:17Somebody that's 20 years older than me to my parents
00:02:23Yes
00:02:28This hell won't give me what I want
00:02:31I'm scared but not afraid enough
00:02:35Cause forever's starting here and now
00:02:41Now you're cleaning
00:02:42What?
00:02:43Now you're suddenly like domesticated
00:02:46Someone's coming to town for you
00:02:48Oh, they're not coming here
00:02:50I'm sure they're not staying here
00:02:51That would be so awkward and weird
00:02:55Um, how do you feel?
00:02:56I feel good
00:02:58I'm excited to see who it is
00:03:01Who do you think it is?
00:03:02Your sister and your parents
00:03:06Um, I don't think it's both my parents
00:03:08I think it's probably
00:03:11My
00:03:15Maybe it's mom and sister
00:03:18I'm excited
00:03:19Me seeing my family first will be easier for me when I meet yours
00:03:24Yeah
00:03:24Because I'm nervous about yours
00:03:28So I get to get mine out
00:03:30Great
00:03:30I get to get mine out of the way first
00:03:33How do you feel?
00:03:35Definitely nervous
00:03:39Like
00:03:40I don't
00:03:41Yeah
00:03:42I'm trying to remember when the last time
00:03:44That I've been in this kind of a situation
00:03:47Meeting a family
00:03:48It's been a long time
00:03:50So are you going to tell them age?
00:03:53No, because you don't want me to tell them age
00:03:56Are you, like, on the same page as me
00:03:58With, like, them getting to know me before that?
00:04:01Absolutely
00:04:02Absolutely
00:04:02And that's why this whole experience has been cool
00:04:04Because that's how I do it in the real world
00:04:06I don't care
00:04:06If I don't
00:04:08If your kids don't like me
00:04:10This is done
00:04:11Right
00:04:11If you didn't like me
00:04:12It doesn't matter how old I am
00:04:13If I didn't like you
00:04:15It doesn't matter how old you are
00:04:16True
00:04:16So
00:04:18I think build the base
00:04:20What we've done
00:04:21Yeah
00:04:22And then
00:04:23You even said it
00:04:24You wouldn't have gone out with me
00:04:25If you knew my age from the beginning
00:04:26Right
00:04:27And look what you would have missed out on
00:04:31I know
00:04:32Right
00:04:33Yeah, I would have missed out on a great guy
00:04:35I might just go throw up a little bit
00:04:40I'm just kidding
00:04:41I try to you
00:04:43Try to hide the truth
00:04:44But I
00:04:45I know
00:04:46I gotta be closer to you
00:04:49You pull me back when I walk away
00:04:52Cause you know
00:04:54I gotta be closer to you
00:04:57I'm feeling terrible
00:04:58I'm not even feeling terrible
00:04:59Yeah
00:05:00I'm big stressed though
00:05:01I think last night I was in a good mood
00:05:04I was like, oh, it's so excited
00:05:05To see everybody
00:05:06Whoever it may be
00:05:08Yeah
00:05:08And then I woke up this morning
00:05:09And I was like
00:05:11I'm not excited anymore
00:05:13Yeah
00:05:14So
00:05:15Stressed out
00:05:16Yeah, I'm super stressed
00:05:18I'm not going to be hesitant
00:05:19Because I have no control over who's coming
00:05:22Or like what that's going to look like
00:05:24Yeah
00:05:26But yeah, I'm definitely like
00:05:27I woke up not
00:05:28Not feeling bad
00:05:30In a great mood
00:05:30Yeah
00:05:30Nervous
00:05:31Yeah
00:05:32I don't really want to dive into all this right now
00:05:35Yeah, I understand
00:05:36Um, but I'm just
00:05:38Yeah, I'm like not feeling great
00:05:40About that
00:05:43Well, I'm supportive
00:05:44I hope you know
00:05:45I know, I know, I know, I know
00:05:47Uh, with whoever is coming
00:05:49With whoever is coming, right
00:05:50Um, I mean, it's kind of a part of it
00:05:53Like, yes, it's all very new
00:05:55But the point is to face the challenges of the other side of the fence
00:06:00Right
00:06:01And face them together
00:06:02If
00:06:03The connection and the relationship's strong enough
00:06:06But that's
00:06:07Perfectly normal for you to be
00:06:10A little bit nervous
00:06:11About it
00:06:12What would be your perfect scenario?
00:06:14Don't
00:06:14I don't want to do this right now
00:06:16Okay
00:06:18I just
00:06:19I don't want to talk about it right now
00:06:21And I really don't want to have
00:06:24I just don't want to have a conversation
00:06:28No
00:06:30We're not here
00:06:35Last night
00:06:36I don't think it really hit me
00:06:38What's in store for us
00:06:40With our families coming
00:06:41To put it frankly
00:06:43They've never really seen me
00:06:45Emotional
00:06:46Or vulnerable
00:06:47With a man
00:06:48And I've also never brought anybody home
00:06:51Nearly as old as Derek
00:06:53I'm just afraid
00:06:57And anxious
00:07:06Yeah
00:07:07No, you really
00:07:29The more time I'm spending with Logan
00:07:31I'm starting to see potential red flags
00:07:33Like his fear of commitment
00:07:35You know
00:07:36And he's getting scared
00:07:37And I think he has things
00:07:38That he has to work through
00:07:40And maybe some growing up to do
00:07:44I'm the oldest of three girls
00:07:45And my sisters are a year apart
00:07:48And they just have like
00:07:50Their picture perfect lives
00:07:51And everything's dandy
00:07:54And I'm just the one
00:07:55And I'm just the one that keeps like
00:07:56Screwing up everything
00:07:58With my relationships
00:07:59It's like
00:08:00I wanted to find my person
00:08:01So I could fit in
00:08:03So I could go do these things
00:08:04You know
00:08:05And it's like
00:08:06Is my person a 29 year old
00:08:08Like am I gonna build a life with him
00:08:11You know
00:08:15This is gonna be hard to say
00:08:23I thought maybe this was my chance
00:08:26But like as I'm moving forward
00:08:28I don't know
00:08:29I don't know if this is it
00:08:35Breathe in the air tonight
00:08:42Breathe in the air tonight
00:08:53Okay
00:08:54OK.
00:08:58Oh, hi.
00:09:01Oh, my god.
00:09:03This is crazy.
00:09:05Sarah, Teresa.
00:09:07Hi, I'm Sarah.
00:09:08Do you want to give you a hug?
00:09:08I love you.
00:09:10I'm Teresa.
00:09:11Yeah.
00:09:12Teresa.
00:09:13Hi, I'm Brenda.
00:09:14Hi.
00:09:15Nice to meet you.
00:09:15Yeah, thank you.
00:09:17This is crazy.
00:09:18This is our table.
00:09:22That's really pretty.
00:09:23He's been talking a lot about you,
00:09:25so I feel like I already know you guys to a certain extent.
00:09:28This is crazy.
00:09:28And you must be, like, in shock, I'm sure.
00:09:31Hello.
00:09:32Yeah?
00:09:32Yeah?
00:09:34It's OK.
00:09:35I am in shock.
00:09:36I think he's probably more in shock now today.
00:09:40Yeah.
00:09:40OK, wait, but I want to hear about you guys.
00:09:43So tell me.
00:09:44Explain.
00:09:44How did you first meet?
00:09:46Like, what happened?
00:09:47We hit it off pretty fast.
00:09:49Mm-hmm.
00:09:50You were in, like, one big room, and you all met each other?
00:09:53Yeah, it was almost like a speed dating thing to start.
00:09:56At the retreat, you're supposed to make connections.
00:09:58Nobody knows anybody's age.
00:09:59And then if you want to, you commit to just dating one person.
00:10:04And then if the feelings are mutual, you reveal your age.
00:10:10Oh.
00:10:11OK.
00:10:12That's the big reveal.
00:10:13Yeah.
00:10:15Our next step was to live together.
00:10:19And it's been fun.
00:10:21Mm-hmm.
00:10:22Oh, wow.
00:10:22Yeah.
00:10:24Did you think that you would find a match with someone who's younger than you?
00:10:29Or did you think that you were just, you know, whoever it is?
00:10:33No, I mean, there were all ages and everything.
00:10:36And, like, when you don't know some of those, like, details and you're just meeting each
00:10:41other based on, like, how you interact.
00:10:44Compatibility and, like, attraction and all that other stuff, like, does, like, what really
00:10:49matters in a relationship and what's important.
00:10:51And, I mean, I think we both really like each other and are wanting to continue.
00:10:58Mm-hmm.
00:10:58But, you know, we're just taking it day by day and see what happens.
00:11:02And, you know, see how many blueberries he drops on the carpet.
00:11:05Just kidding.
00:11:07So what does your family think about this?
00:11:09My family does not really know anything.
00:11:14Like, they're, yeah, my mom, she's, like, she knew I was going to do something.
00:11:20But she's, like, not totally.
00:11:22My mom was a nurse.
00:11:23Yeah, my mom was a nurse.
00:11:24Oh, okay.
00:11:25Yeah.
00:11:26So, yeah.
00:11:27So, little by little, we'll see.
00:11:29Do you assume that she will be coming or something?
00:11:31I don't know.
00:11:32I have no idea.
00:11:33Like, it would be great to just stay in, like, a bubble for the rest of our lives.
00:11:36But that's not reality.
00:11:39Right?
00:11:40Yeah, it's true.
00:11:40Bubbles.
00:11:40The bubble's growing today.
00:11:42Yeah.
00:11:43All right.
00:11:44I'm going to run to the bathroom really quick.
00:11:45Okay.
00:11:46We'll be here.
00:11:46Okay.
00:11:47Eating the caviar.
00:11:48Yeah.
00:11:49Don't eat it all.
00:11:49Oh, don't worry.
00:11:50It'll be here when you get back.
00:11:54So, how's it been living with someone?
00:11:56You've never lived with someone before.
00:11:57I mean, Danielle and I lived at the college house together.
00:12:01She just...
00:12:02I know.
00:12:03Obviously, the elephant in the room, you guys know, but...
00:12:07And how old she is?
00:12:08Yeah.
00:12:08But it doesn't matter.
00:12:10Yeah.
00:12:10It's been smooth.
00:12:11It's not...
00:12:12We're not getting married tomorrow.
00:12:14Right.
00:12:14Has she been married before?
00:12:16Yeah.
00:12:16Yeah.
00:12:17Does she have children?
00:12:19Uh-huh.
00:12:20Have you met the children?
00:12:23No.
00:12:24Probably tomorrow.
00:12:25Oh, really?
00:12:26Oh.
00:12:27You think so?
00:12:28Probably.
00:12:29But she's really stressed about that.
00:12:31How...
00:12:31How old are they?
00:12:32How many are they?
00:12:32Should I ask her that?
00:12:33I don't know either.
00:12:34No, no, no.
00:12:34Don't...
00:12:34Don't talk about kids.
00:12:35Okay.
00:12:36She doesn't want...
00:12:37We want to get to know each other and like each other and...
00:12:40I'm glad you guys are here.
00:12:43So...
00:12:43How old are they?
00:12:46Yeah.
00:12:46Don't worry about it.
00:12:47Don't worry about it.
00:12:48All right.
00:12:50Sure.
00:12:50I'm just...
00:12:50I'm just thinking about you and, like, how life is going to look for you after you leave
00:12:55here.
00:12:56Of course.
00:12:56You know, and I think that...
00:12:57We've talked about that.
00:12:58I think that that really makes a difference, how old the kids are and...
00:13:03Totally.
00:13:03Responsibility.
00:13:04Like, where they live and...
00:13:06She's starting a new chapter now.
00:13:09That's kind of why she's here.
00:13:11Okay.
00:13:11And we've talked about how I'm not necessarily super happy with work.
00:13:15Okay.
00:13:16How I've kind of been already looking at outlets.
00:13:19Yeah.
00:13:19Am I moving tomorrow?
00:13:20No.
00:13:21I'm not moving tomorrow.
00:13:22Okay.
00:13:22Is she moving tomorrow?
00:13:23I don't know, but...
00:13:24Oh, that's fun.
00:13:25So you're comfortable?
00:13:26I'm comfortable, yeah.
00:13:27Oh, good.
00:13:28Being upfront and honest about your situations and what you're coming into the relationship
00:13:33with, I think that's all that matters.
00:13:34Exactly.
00:13:35What you're coming in with.
00:13:36Yeah.
00:13:36When I first saw Teresa, I definitely could tell that she was older.
00:13:39I mean, she's beautiful and she's great looking, but I could definitely tell that she's
00:13:43older than John.
00:13:44I actually don't know how old she is, but he's never dated anyone that I believe to be this
00:13:51much older.
00:13:52I wish that we had maybe found out a little more of the age difference, um, up front.
00:14:00In fact, obviously she has children and I think the fact that she didn't bring that up
00:14:05to us in the kind of conversation is a little, um, off-putting to me, I think.
00:14:10I would've liked for her to have shared that information with us.
00:14:13I think it would just make us feel more comfortable with the relationship if we did have these unanswered
00:14:19questions.
00:14:19And I hope it works out well for them, but it's weird.
00:14:23It's weird.
00:14:37I think it's fine.
00:14:41It's okay.
00:14:43You want to come a little closer to me?
00:14:45No.
00:14:45No, this is good.
00:14:49I don't want to be close.
00:14:51This is good.
00:14:54Please, please, please.
00:14:55I am.
00:14:57I am.
00:15:01I don't know.
00:15:02I am.
00:15:03Oh, my God.
00:15:04It's both my parents.
00:15:05It's both my parents.
00:15:10Hi.
00:15:11Hello.
00:15:12This is Derek.
00:15:14Hi.
00:15:14Hi.
00:15:14Well, I'll shake your hand first.
00:15:16Pleasure.
00:15:16Nice to meet you.
00:15:18Derek.
00:15:19Hey, how's it going?
00:15:20Oh, my God.
00:15:21Nice to meet you.
00:15:21Pleasure.
00:15:21Nice to meet you.
00:15:22Absolutely, too.
00:15:23Absolutely.
00:15:23I was sitting here like, oh, my, I was freaking out.
00:15:26Have a seat.
00:15:26Have a seat.
00:15:27Wow, we're really coordinating our outfits here.
00:15:30We are.
00:15:30This is crazy.
00:15:31Man, it's so nice to meet y'all.
00:15:32Likewise.
00:15:33Absolutely.
00:15:34Seeing both of you guys together is definitely a surprise,
00:15:37I would say.
00:15:39Okay.
00:15:39All right.
00:15:39Well, that's good.
00:15:40That's good.
00:15:40Yeah.
00:15:41It's a good surprise.
00:15:43The last time I've seen both of my parents sitting together like
00:15:45that is when I've gotten into the most trouble of my life
00:15:47in high school.
00:15:48I know both of my parents, particularly with my dad, will be
00:15:52skeptical of the relationship and of the environment that this
00:15:55relationship kind of fostered in.
00:15:57So I'm just hoping that I can show him, like, how much Derek
00:16:01really means to me and how, like, Derek is a great guy,
00:16:03and I just want him to see that, too.
00:16:05So I have to ask, what prompted you to try and meet someone
00:16:10in this fashion?
00:16:12Well, first and foremost, I obviously cared so much for your
00:16:16daughter, so you guys have done a phenomenal job.
00:16:18So I wanted to commend you for that.
00:16:21I just felt the way things were going previously dating,
00:16:25they just weren't working.
00:16:26Okay.
00:16:27And I felt like I was repeating some of the same mistakes,
00:16:31just a different person.
00:16:32There's a common denominator.
00:16:33Exactly.
00:16:33It's me.
00:16:34So what's going on?
00:16:35What do I need to dive into and have, you know,
00:16:38a better understanding of myself?
00:16:39So what are the quirky things that you've noticed
00:16:43about each other or things that you didn't expect?
00:16:46There's nothing really out of the ordinary.
00:16:50Like, she's very clean, which is...
00:16:53Really?
00:16:54Oh, is she putting on?
00:16:56Say something.
00:16:57Like, what?
00:16:58Okay.
00:16:59I am...
00:16:59I am...
00:17:00I am keen.
00:17:02Okay.
00:17:03So if you guys decide that you, you know,
00:17:06want to continue a relationship, what are your...
00:17:09what are your ideas on how to make that work?
00:17:11Right.
00:17:12Yeah.
00:17:12So this is something, I mean, we haven't really talked about.
00:17:15I'm the more flexible one because, of course,
00:17:18I'm younger than Derek.
00:17:21Okay.
00:17:22By how much?
00:17:23I'm curious.
00:17:26Quite a bit.
00:17:30So I'm 43.
00:17:33Okay.
00:17:34You look good for 43.
00:17:37Wow.
00:17:37Yeah.
00:17:38And so we didn't know each other's ages.
00:17:40That was sick.
00:17:41Wow.
00:17:41Okay.
00:17:41I would never have thought you're 43.
00:17:43Yeah.
00:17:44I didn't have any idea.
00:17:45I was shocked.
00:17:46I was shocked.
00:17:47Do you have any concerns about Pfeiffer's age?
00:17:50I'm accepting of the generational gap.
00:17:52Mm-hmm.
00:17:53I just know that there are going to be some differences.
00:17:55Mm-hmm.
00:17:55As long as we're both open.
00:17:57Yeah.
00:17:57That was, that was my biggest concern.
00:17:59And so right now it's like, let's build during the bubble
00:18:02and continue to get to know each other.
00:18:03So when we do have the challenges, then we can rely on that.
00:18:07So.
00:18:07Yeah.
00:18:08Um, so Derek has two children as well.
00:18:14Um, but one of the things that, I mean, drew me to Derek was,
00:18:17you guys know I want a big family.
00:18:19Yeah.
00:18:19Like I want a bunch of kids.
00:18:21Um, and so he already has that maturity and that understanding of like what it takes,
00:18:27you know, to raise children.
00:18:29Um, and he does.
00:18:30How, how old are your children?
00:18:31Fifteen and five.
00:18:33Okay.
00:18:33Wow.
00:18:33Wow.
00:18:34That's a big gap.
00:18:34Okay.
00:18:35I know.
00:18:37Primarily I was looking for somebody who had their, like had their life together.
00:18:42Who's mature, who is open-minded and not judgmental and understanding, you know, and like meets
00:18:48me where I'm at.
00:18:49Mm-hmm.
00:18:49In life.
00:18:50Um, I hold you in such a high regard and such a high respect.
00:18:54Um, and it's like, yeah, like I'm like proud to be with somebody who is, like has done so
00:19:01much and accomplished so much.
00:19:03Um, but still is like a very genuine, down to earth, authentic person.
00:19:07Family is the most important thing and love and showing that.
00:19:11So it's, it's flowing smoothly.
00:19:13Okay.
00:19:13Yeah.
00:19:14Yeah.
00:19:14That's important stuff.
00:19:15Absolutely.
00:19:16Yeah.
00:19:16Could we have a chat as well?
00:19:17Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:19:18Absolutely.
00:19:19All right.
00:19:23Okay.
00:19:23So fill me in.
00:19:25About what?
00:19:25Like everything or how I'm feeling or what?
00:19:28How are you feeling?
00:19:29How?
00:19:29I feel great.
00:19:30And it sounds like ridiculous kind of.
00:19:33Um, but like we have been so lucky.
00:19:35Like we have been, we have had the best experience.
00:19:39We have had, like literally like no arguments, no fights.
00:19:44Being 23.
00:19:45Mm-hmm.
00:19:46And potentially having two immediate children.
00:19:51Yeah.
00:19:52I mean, like it is, it is what it is, I guess.
00:19:57And you hated babysitting.
00:19:58And I was bad at babysitting, which I haven't told him that.
00:20:01I haven't even told him that I did babysit.
00:20:03In this setting, how much can you know about a person?
00:20:06But, the ease between the two of you, like, it's actually unusual for her to be that comfortable.
00:20:15That's like a big thing.
00:20:17Yeah.
00:20:18I mean, you know, your daughter obviously, she'll get worked up and I'm like, just roll, you know, with the
00:20:24punches a little bit.
00:20:24It'll be fine, but her mind will just take off.
00:20:29Yeah.
00:20:29You know?
00:20:30So, yeah, it'll be, it'll be interesting.
00:20:32Yeah.
00:20:32To see like how this unfolds.
00:20:34When Pfeiffer sets her mind to something, she does it.
00:20:38And it may not, it may not be easy, but if, if the relationship is important to her, and she
00:20:46loves Derek, um, she will make this situation work.
00:20:53I think it's like joy, that, I know this is a weird way to express joy, um, but when you
00:21:07can get to a place where you trust your kid, you feel so fortunate.
00:21:16So, when you're 40.
00:21:18Yep.
00:21:19And he's 60.
00:21:20Mm-hmm.
00:21:21Do you have worry, worries or concerns about that or when he, you know, you're 50 and he's 70?
00:21:26Um, I mean, that's a great question.
00:21:29I know it's hard because I've never done this in my life, but like live like day by day.
00:21:33But yeah, I mean, it is, it's kind of funny.
00:21:37Very surreal.
00:21:39Yeah.
00:21:40They seem to have a great connection.
00:21:42And frankly, the communication that it seems they have is stronger than I've seen Pfeiffer have with anyone.
00:21:49But this is a little microcosm that isn't the real world.
00:21:52So when you have to deal with the day to day of, you know, children's schedules or, you know, a
00:21:59mom being in the picture, it could be a make or break.
00:22:02It may be too much for either one or both of them.
00:22:05That's a challenge.
00:22:20Here you go.
00:22:21What's up?
00:22:22You wearing your shirt already?
00:22:24I don't know.
00:22:25What if you stain it?
00:22:26I know.
00:22:27I would wait.
00:22:28Don't worry, I don't have makeup on.
00:22:30Come here.
00:22:30How you feeling?
00:22:32I'm excited.
00:22:33Are you?
00:22:34Yeah.
00:22:34Are you nervous?
00:22:35I'm a little nervous.
00:22:36I'm, like, nervous more.
00:22:38I'm excited more to see who's here.
00:22:40You think I should open the button or leave it?
00:22:44Depends.
00:22:44Mom, okay.
00:22:45Who?
00:22:46Let's see.
00:22:47What would your mom think if you had your shirt unbuttoned like this, basically trying to tempt me?
00:22:51Yeah.
00:22:52That's how it happened.
00:22:53That's how it happened.
00:23:01Nervous?
00:23:02No, I'm pretty nervous.
00:23:03I'm not gonna lie.
00:23:04We'll be fine.
00:23:05Look at, look at, look at.
00:23:07Holy shit.
00:23:09My God.
00:23:10You crazy girls.
00:23:16You little liar.
00:23:19Hi.
00:23:20Hi.
00:23:20I'm over here.
00:23:21Nice to meet you.
00:23:22Hey, girls.
00:23:26Where is everyone from?
00:23:28I'm so happy you're here.
00:23:29I'm from New Jersey.
00:23:30We met in college.
00:23:32I'm from San Diego.
00:23:34Okay.
00:23:34High school.
00:23:35You're me from New Jersey.
00:23:35Your makeup looks good.
00:23:36Your face looks good.
00:23:37Thanks.
00:23:40Yeah.
00:23:41Okay.
00:23:42How was your travels here?
00:23:44Good.
00:23:45We're good.
00:23:46What does the bracelet say?
00:23:47My daughter made this for me, like, years ago.
00:23:50I'm just getting straight into it.
00:23:51Sorry.
00:23:52How old are your kids?
00:23:54Oh, 14 and 12.
00:23:5514 and 12.
00:24:00Sorry.
00:24:01I'm getting side-eyed over here.
00:24:03I'm like, oh.
00:24:03No, I just like to look.
00:24:06Gotcha.
00:24:06I like to observe.
00:24:09I mean, I know that the judgments aren't being made, and it's really hard to just stand
00:24:14there and act normal and try and prove myself, but I honestly don't think that my friends
00:24:19have ever seen me with somebody who is a good candidate, and I think he's in the running.
00:24:26I am going to become a therapist, so your head might get shranked a little bit.
00:24:30Yeah.
00:24:30I want to know about, like, your past relationship.
00:24:35Which one?
00:24:36Who's the mother of my children?
00:24:38Give them all to me.
00:24:39Wait, how many baby moms do you have?
00:24:40We can start with the mother of your children.
00:24:42So it's just one.
00:24:44It just didn't work out.
00:24:45I was young, so.
00:24:47How old were you?
00:24:4722 when I had my first daughter.
00:24:49So my age.
00:24:51Yeah.
00:24:51Our age.
00:24:52Our age.
00:24:52Yeah.
00:24:53Yeah.
00:24:54She's an amazing mom.
00:24:56We still have a really good relationship.
00:24:58We do birthdays, holidays.
00:25:00I understand that.
00:25:02I want to hear it, though, from, like, her side.
00:25:05I'm sorry, but, like, men and women have, like, very different sides.
00:25:08I would honestly, and I'm not just bullshitting you, like, I would be surprised if she said anything besides what
00:25:15I just said.
00:25:16Yeah.
00:25:16How old are you?
00:25:17Sorry.
00:25:1738.
00:25:19Okay.
00:25:22Yeah.
00:25:23Okay.
00:25:23How do you feel about dating younger?
00:25:26So I was a little surprised when I found out her age.
00:25:30Didn't know ages, anything like that.
00:25:32It was just strictly based off of, like, connection and what we told each other.
00:25:37I feel like we're great.
00:25:38We're great roommates.
00:25:39We're having a good time.
00:25:41Maybe this is, like, a relationship.
00:25:43It's not a roommate situation.
00:25:46That's so true.
00:25:48What's the next question?
00:25:50No, there's no other question.
00:25:54Oh, my God.
00:25:55I don't know who those are going to be talking about.
00:25:57These are his friends.
00:25:58What's up?
00:25:59How we doing?
00:26:00Yo, how's it?
00:26:01Hey, dude.
00:26:02Nice to meet you.
00:26:03Nice to meet you.
00:26:07How we doing?
00:26:09Did you wear this shirt?
00:26:09Yeah, I gotta tell you that.
00:26:12Hey.
00:26:13Nice to meet you.
00:26:14Nice to meet you.
00:26:15Nice to meet you.
00:26:16Nice to meet you.
00:26:16Nice to meet you.
00:26:17These are our girlfriends.
00:26:19I'm assuming that these are your people.
00:26:21Yeah, these are mine.
00:26:24So this is what you've been up to.
00:26:26Yeah.
00:26:26Yeah, that's why I have not responded to the group chat.
00:26:29Yeah.
00:26:29So you have been getting the message.
00:26:31You said, you know, try and find a long distance thing.
00:26:34Yeah, I did.
00:26:35He's a big part of the reason why I'm here.
00:26:37Like, he was one of the ones pushing me,
00:26:39and I only told a handful of people like, Rob, you didn't even know I was doing this.
00:26:42I didn't know I knew.
00:26:43Well, you guys missed this part.
00:26:45We don't know each other's ages at the retreat.
00:26:47You don't have your cell phone.
00:26:48Do you guys know each other's ages right now?
00:26:50We do.
00:26:50Yeah.
00:26:51Okay, I got a couple questions.
00:26:53Don't worry.
00:26:53We'll get there.
00:26:54We'll get there.
00:26:55We're not.
00:26:55So how do you guys know you guys wanted to be with each other?
00:26:59How did that happen?
00:27:00Um, prior to learning his age, I was like, this guy's good.
00:27:06He's cool.
00:27:06He knows what's up.
00:27:07A big thing that, um, I wanted going into this but didn't really think was possible was
00:27:12I was like, please, God, just send me, like, a somewhat emotionally mature man or emotionally
00:27:19intelligent.
00:27:21Yeah.
00:27:22Two thumbs up there.
00:27:23Two thumbs up.
00:27:24Yeah.
00:27:24The initial connection was fun, playful, and now we both let our guard down a little
00:27:30bit.
00:27:31Yeah.
00:27:31It's been good.
00:27:32As you spend more and more time together and you're living together, you really can't
00:27:36hide any part of your personality.
00:27:38So, I feel like...
00:27:39These guys know they're married.
00:27:41There's no getting away.
00:27:43Hey, you want to grab a drink over here real quick?
00:27:48You may need some Botox.
00:27:51Nina?
00:27:51Sorry.
00:27:52So, how old is she?
00:27:5422.
00:27:55Hey, hey, hey.
00:27:57Hold on.
00:27:57You have a bet.
00:27:58I lost both.
00:28:00I lost both.
00:28:01Hold on.
00:28:01Here you go.
00:28:02Thank you, sir.
00:28:03Pleasure doing business with you.
00:28:05By the way, I nailed it was that she was blonde and that she was 25 to 22 years old.
00:28:10Guy's consistent.
00:28:12You know, I'll just say that he's very consistent.
00:28:14Well, let's just be clear, though.
00:28:16I was forced into the other side, so I had to guess that she was older and brunette.
00:28:20But 22?
00:28:2222?
00:28:23That's tough.
00:28:23That's a big gap.
00:28:25Let me guess, she's really mature.
00:28:27At times.
00:28:28For her age.
00:28:32What, uh, does she have a job?
00:28:36She does.
00:28:36She does PR, social media, marketing.
00:28:40Okay.
00:28:40I'm happy you're enjoying yourself.
00:28:42You're immersing yourself in this experience and all that.
00:28:45But, like, first thing, like, in, you know, in real life, got the bar back home.
00:28:51Got the girls back home.
00:28:52I mean, it's all things that we have started to have those conversations.
00:28:56Yeah.
00:28:56And, you know, I think my biggest thing is you gotta first have the hard conversation
00:29:03of, like, would we be open to having a long-distance relationship?
00:29:07And we've talked about that.
00:29:09We've talked about the long distance.
00:29:10And, I mean, like, you know, we've talked about it.
00:29:12Like, I don't need...
00:29:13The girls are 14 and 12 now.
00:29:15Like, I don't need a stepmom, you know?
00:29:17It's almost like big sister vibes.
00:29:19There's someone that I can add to the tripod that we have.
00:29:22Yeah.
00:29:24It pretty much does that.
00:29:25Um, but no, uh...
00:29:27There's no, like, I told her, there's no, like, pressure to be that.
00:29:31So, I think that takes a little bit off when it comes to the age thing.
00:29:35Yeah.
00:29:35Solo, man.
00:29:36I mean, she seems really cool, a little fun.
00:29:40Yeah.
00:29:40She just can't rent a car to drive out to.
00:29:42No!
00:29:43I'll rent the car.
00:29:44Okay.
00:29:45Put it in my name.
00:29:46How do you feel about the whole kid thing?
00:29:49The kid thing?
00:29:50Okay, wait.
00:29:50I'm sorry, but you're not ready to be a stepmommy.
00:29:52Stepmommy with Libby?
00:29:55I've always felt like a weird, um...
00:29:58A responsibility.
00:30:00Um, like, as, like, a big sister a lot of the times to younger girls.
00:30:04So, it's not like that's, like, my...
00:30:06What's the word?
00:30:06That's not my M.O. here.
00:30:08I understand where you're coming from with, like, the whole big sister vibe.
00:30:11But these are his children, Libby.
00:30:14It's not like a, ooh, like, big sister vibe.
00:30:17It's like, no, like, you're liking his dad, like, their dad.
00:30:20I'm not trying to step in and tell anybody that I'm mommy or I'm stepmommy or I'm big sister,
00:30:24I'm this, that, whatever.
00:30:25Like, I'm not trying to do that.
00:30:26But for me, I've learned that the things that make it kind of, like, hard to navigate, like, the fact
00:30:32that he has kids and the fact that he's older have been all the reasons that I like him and
00:30:37that make him the person that he is.
00:30:39Yeah.
00:30:39And that finally are, like, the emotionally intelligent man that I've been looking for.
00:30:44I think Libby has matured.
00:30:46I feel like even just the way she's speaking to us, like, as we were sitting there, I was like,
00:30:50wait.
00:30:50Who is this?
00:30:51I don't know if I'm talking to him, really.
00:30:53But I do think that Libby's kind of wearing these, like, rose-colored glasses and having this positive outlook on
00:30:59what this will look like outside of this experience.
00:31:02She's not being realistic, in my opinion, because, like, what are we doing?
00:31:06This is, like, a bubble that she's in that, like, needs to be popped.
00:31:10Look, I know all your concerns would be valid.
00:31:14And trust me, the concerns that you're having are things that have already went through my mind.
00:31:19And all of that could come to fruition.
00:31:21Like, I've been down this road a time or two.
00:31:23But honestly, it really was based off of did we have, like, chemistry and the things that, like, you would
00:31:31be saying to me right now that you are the same concerns that I had.
00:31:34And I just took it day by day.
00:31:36And I was very vocal with her about that.
00:31:39I'm like, look, like, I love this.
00:31:41And I've been in these situations where it's fun, but it's only fun until it's not fun.
00:31:46And when it's not fun, then it's the difficult and hard conversations.
00:31:49I just, I just, I don't know.
00:31:51I think it's gonna be real, real tough.
00:31:54You got a lot, you got a lot going on there, man.
00:31:56You got, you got, I mean, she's young.
00:31:58Hey, let the man live.
00:32:00Oh, he's been living.
00:32:02He's been living for a long time.
00:32:05He's been living for a long time.
00:32:0616 years longer than her.
00:32:22Don't be so mad, just baby.
00:32:26Oh, she's, oh, I love this.
00:32:28Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.
00:32:33Don't cry now, don't cry.
00:32:36This is Leah.
00:32:37So you are a hugger.
00:32:37And this is Nina.
00:32:39Great to meet you.
00:32:42I think this is the time that I needed a piece of home more than anything.
00:32:46So I'm happy.
00:32:47I can't believe it.
00:32:48Are you happy to meet?
00:32:49Yeah.
00:32:50I mean, I had a-
00:32:50I'm happy with you.
00:32:54Where are you from?
00:32:55California.
00:32:56So originally Bakersfield, but I travel.
00:32:58So I'm a flight attendant.
00:33:00Oh, okay.
00:33:00Um, so I travel for a living.
00:33:02I think the hardest thing for us has been trying to really understand what our normal routines
00:33:06are and how we fit into that.
00:33:07And then also-
00:33:08And it's hard here.
00:33:09Yeah.
00:33:09It takes time.
00:33:10Yeah.
00:33:11I mean, this probably has been like fun.
00:33:14Yeah.
00:33:15You know?
00:33:15It's been fun, but I-
00:33:16Yeah.
00:33:17It's been, you know?
00:33:18It's been a lot.
00:33:18We haven't just gotten to where we are today.
00:33:20I think she was worried about the age gap.
00:33:23Obviously you don't know her age yet.
00:33:24I don't know how old you are.
00:33:25I-
00:33:25She looks like she's 30 probably at the most.
00:33:29I love that.
00:33:30Yeah.
00:33:31I'll take it.
00:33:32Maybe add 10 years.
00:33:34Really?
00:33:35Plus one.
00:33:38Oh my God.
00:33:38I'm 41.
00:33:40Wow.
00:33:41You don't look it at all.
00:33:44So how do you feel about him being 26?
00:33:47As long as he's ready for me, I'm good with it.
00:33:50I know he's mature for his age, but I don't know about like a 41 year old woman, what would
00:33:56serve you if you would see him that mature.
00:33:59I don't know.
00:34:00I cannot-
00:34:00I love-
00:34:01That I don't know.
00:34:02That is up to you.
00:34:04You guys look happy.
00:34:06You look happy together, mama.
00:34:08Yeah.
00:34:08I have been praying for God to reveal the person for Christopher.
00:34:15I don't know if it's you or me.
00:34:17I know.
00:34:18I know.
00:34:19Yeah.
00:34:19Time will talk.
00:34:20God will let us know.
00:34:23All right.
00:34:24Um, I just want to thank you again for coming out to support Chris.
00:34:28But, um, I'm going to head back to the apartment now.
00:34:31So I'll give you guys some time to chat.
00:34:33And-
00:34:34You're welcome.
00:34:35But I'm going to give you a hug before we leave.
00:34:39Fine, I'll come this way.
00:34:40So lovely to meet you.
00:34:43You're wonderful.
00:34:44I love you.
00:34:47So what do we do now?
00:34:49We're going to talk.
00:34:51Well, you look like you're very happy on her.
00:34:56So, it's a lot.
00:34:58This has been a lot.
00:35:00I want you to see me for what I've really been dealing with.
00:35:04And I want you to tell me if this is normal.
00:35:07And if this is how a relationship is supposed to go.
00:35:09Or I'm just trying to find positive and something that's really been a lot on me.
00:35:16Okay.
00:35:17Everything was easy until we moved in together.
00:35:21That's the truth.
00:35:23First, you got to communicate about every little thing that is bothering you.
00:35:27You need to be yourself.
00:35:28How do we get on the same routines when she wants to spend every single moment with me?
00:35:35And I want to go to the gym.
00:35:37I want to take a shower.
00:35:38Well, you don't have to be together all the time, do you?
00:35:41Well, that's the thing that we were struggling with.
00:35:43Her love language is quality time.
00:35:46Of course.
00:35:46But you still need your time alone or don't go to the gym or whatever.
00:35:50Right.
00:35:50But I wasn't getting that.
00:35:52It's very difficult for you to live with somebody.
00:35:54You've been on your own for a while.
00:35:56And it's going to be very difficult for you to have somebody live with you.
00:36:00She's been independent for so long.
00:36:02Yeah, absolutely.
00:36:03She's 41 years old.
00:36:04She's not a young lady.
00:36:05I would be like, it's hard for her, too, to have somebody in her home.
00:36:09Absolutely.
00:36:10Absolutely.
00:36:10Can you imagine?
00:36:11Absolutely.
00:36:11It's not going to be easy for her either.
00:36:13Yeah.
00:36:13Now, it doesn't bother you that she's 41 years old?
00:36:17But, like, what about the children?
00:36:21Well, I'm ready to have kids.
00:36:22You're ready to have kids?
00:36:23Is she ready to have kids right away?
00:36:25The thing is, you want your relationship to be strong before you have kids.
00:36:31Kids change your whole life.
00:36:33Yeah, exactly.
00:36:33That's the other thing.
00:36:34It's not about the age.
00:36:35So you cannot just, like, have kids right away.
00:36:35No, we have to be super strong before we even think about kids.
00:36:38That's true.
00:36:39I know you want to be ready, but you can't force it.
00:36:42You really haven't had a long-term relationship yet.
00:36:46You haven't.
00:36:47Yeah.
00:36:48So you really don't know.
00:36:50I think I'm ready.
00:36:52I want to be ready.
00:36:53Is it the fact that I'm not ready?
00:36:54Is it the fact that I'm too immature or I'm too...
00:36:57I don't know.
00:36:58You need to talk about all of it.
00:37:01Especially now.
00:37:02Especially if you're trying to make a decision that should you stay together or not.
00:37:07It's just so hard, and I don't know if it's supposed to be this hard.
00:37:10Why is it so hard?
00:37:11It's not supposed to be that hard.
00:37:13It's supposed to be easier.
00:37:15Like, especially in a new relationship.
00:37:18Like, at the beginning, it should be much easier.
00:37:21Why is it so hard?
00:37:23What's making it so hard?
00:37:25This whole thing has been a lot, and...
00:37:32It's hard to live together with someone.
00:37:35You have to compromise.
00:37:37There's a lot of compromise when you live together with someone.
00:37:44Christopher, are you happy or not?
00:37:47Because if you're not enjoying every moment with her, then you're hurting her.
00:37:54I feel like it's killing you.
00:37:56Like, it's really bothering you.
00:37:58A lot.
00:38:02If you cannot work these things through, then it's not gonna work.
00:38:07I'm sorry to tell you this.
00:38:23I just wanna say I'm, like, really proud of you for doing this.
00:38:25Like, I know that this was, like, a scary thing for you.
00:38:28Now I'm like, I'm a little nervous.
00:38:31Yeah, I am too.
00:38:37Hey.
00:38:38Is that your mom and dad?
00:38:39Is that your mom and dad?
00:38:40Yeah.
00:38:43Hey.
00:38:44Good to see you.
00:38:45Hey, babe.
00:38:46How you doing?
00:38:47Hey.
00:38:48You all right?
00:38:49Good.
00:38:49Hey, this is...
00:38:51Yeah, you guys look amazing.
00:38:53Vanessa, these are my parents.
00:38:54How are you?
00:38:55Vanessa, you been enjoying your day?
00:38:56Oh, yes.
00:38:57I'm happy now that you guys are here.
00:39:00How are you doing?
00:39:01Good, good.
00:39:02Everything's good.
00:39:03How about you, man?
00:39:04You've had a couple of adventurous weeks, right?
00:39:06Yeah, yeah.
00:39:06It's been, uh...
00:39:08It's been quite the road.
00:39:09So have you enjoyed this whole experience?
00:39:12Yeah, it's been good.
00:39:13How about your experience?
00:39:14I met her and I just weren't really expecting anything to, you know, come about.
00:39:18But, uh, now we're kind of in this trial phase and figuring out the ins and outs of life.
00:39:25And, as you know, I don't really date.
00:39:28This is a great thing for him.
00:39:29He said that he doesn't let people meet his family and friends.
00:39:33So he was very nervous about me meeting you, which made me a little nervous.
00:39:37But you guys are delightful, so I'm glad that you're here.
00:39:40Oh, go on.
00:39:42So my question is...
00:39:44Yes, please ask.
00:39:44After you're here...
00:39:45Yeah.
00:39:46That's a good question.
00:39:46I mean, he's in Dallas.
00:39:48You are in Ohio.
00:39:49Ohio.
00:39:52Have you talked about it?
00:39:53I mean, what are you guys gonna do?
00:39:55Yeah.
00:39:55Moving forward, we're trying to figure out, like, what this looks like for him.
00:39:59Yeah, I would, uh...
00:40:00Yeah.
00:40:01Have you contemplated the challenges of a long-distance relationship?
00:40:05Yeah.
00:40:05So I have not done a long-distance relationship.
00:40:08I know he has.
00:40:09It's serious.
00:40:10It's serious.
00:40:11Like, we're still exploring it.
00:40:13Sure.
00:40:13So, like, just because we're meeting today, like, we're not gonna get married and have triplets
00:40:17tomorrow.
00:40:18You know what I mean?
00:40:18So, like, I don't...
00:40:19I hope not.
00:40:20No, no, no.
00:40:21But triplets would be cute.
00:40:23But no.
00:40:23Just kidding.
00:40:24We're just, like, navigating this right now.
00:40:26You know?
00:40:26Like, just because...
00:40:28We're just trying to figure this out, you know?
00:40:31And trying to get some clarity on it.
00:40:33Yeah.
00:40:33You know, it's a complicated thing.
00:40:35And relationships are a complicated thing.
00:40:37There's always challenges.
00:40:38You know?
00:40:39Yes.
00:40:39Right.
00:40:40And, you know, again, you're his age.
00:40:42You know this.
00:40:44Well, actually, we're not the same age.
00:40:46But thank you for thinking that.
00:40:48Can I...
00:40:48Can I ask how old I am?
00:40:50Yeah.
00:40:50How old do you think I am?
00:40:52Oh, boy.
00:40:53It's okay.
00:40:53You aren't.
00:40:54Mom already knows.
00:40:56Mom's already onto it.
00:40:57Mom's already onto it.
00:41:02I'm a little bit older than him.
00:41:07And that was a concern for him.
00:41:10Yeah.
00:41:11So...
00:41:14I'm 20 years older than Logan.
00:41:16Really?
00:41:17See, I did not put you there.
00:41:19I wouldn't have guessed.
00:41:22I wouldn't have guessed that.
00:41:23So...
00:41:24So, not only do we have the distance challenge,
00:41:27but we have an age gap challenge.
00:41:30How do you feel about that?
00:41:33I don't know.
00:41:35Honestly...
00:41:36I mean, my friends are all starting to have grandkids.
00:41:42I don't know.
00:41:43I...
00:41:43I mean, like, I'm not against that,
00:41:45but that would be his decision.
00:41:46Right.
00:41:47I mean, I've told you.
00:41:48I've told you guys recently.
00:41:49I don't know.
00:41:49If I want to have kids, then I still want to have a stage.
00:41:52I think my mom, I think, deep down,
00:41:54I think she does want grandkids.
00:41:55The age gap with Vanessa challenges that.
00:41:59You know, at the end of the day,
00:42:00I know it's my journey and my life,
00:42:03but do I want those things long-term
00:42:05that I thought I used to want?
00:42:07How old is she going to be, you know,
00:42:09in 20 years from now?
00:42:11How old am I going to be?
00:42:14It's scary to think about.
00:42:17Regardless of the distance,
00:42:19regardless of our age,
00:42:21like, I know, like,
00:42:22he comes from a good foundation.
00:42:29I'm going to go to the restroom real quick.
00:42:31Okay.
00:42:31I'll be right back.
00:42:33It's good to see you guys.
00:42:35So...
00:42:36Nice...
00:42:37Nice one?
00:42:38Yeah, yeah.
00:42:39So when...
00:42:40When you, uh...
00:42:41You tell me.
00:42:42You tell me where you're at.
00:42:45I really...
00:42:46You know, we have a...
00:42:47We have a really strong connection.
00:42:49You know?
00:42:50Obviously, yeah.
00:42:51I could see that.
00:42:52But, like, she's also older and mature
00:42:54where she...
00:42:55She knows when she sees herself doing something
00:42:58and talks about it,
00:42:59and I'm still discovering.
00:43:01Yeah.
00:43:02Right, right.
00:43:02She's a little more self-aware.
00:43:04100%, yeah.
00:43:05Yeah.
00:43:05Yeah.
00:43:06Now, here's the other side of that.
00:43:08Hit me.
00:43:10If you're going to do the kid thing,
00:43:12that's...
00:43:12Yeah, that's going to be...
00:43:13Post-haste.
00:43:15Yeah.
00:43:16Yeah.
00:43:16And that's something you need to think about.
00:43:19You know, I've told you guys,
00:43:21I'm in a place where I, you know,
00:43:23I don't know if I want to have kids.
00:43:24I thought you wanted to...
00:43:26Four.
00:43:27There was a time when you said you wanted to...
00:43:28There was.
00:43:29There was a time,
00:43:30but, you know, lately...
00:43:31Listen, you say that, but...
00:43:34You always said,
00:43:35I would like to be a dad.
00:43:36Yeah.
00:43:37Listen, I ain't gonna bullshit this.
00:43:38You'd be a pretty good dad.
00:43:40You're pretty level-headed.
00:43:41You're pretty smart,
00:43:42and I don't want to stroke you here,
00:43:43but, you know...
00:43:44Right, right, right.
00:43:44You're not a bad guy.
00:43:46Yeah.
00:43:48Yeah, I mean, I don't...
00:43:49I don't know.
00:43:49Like, I haven't thought that far ahead.
00:43:52Right.
00:43:52You know, I just...
00:43:53If you're moving forward with this woman,
00:43:55then it's time to start thinking a little bit ahead.
00:43:58Right.
00:43:58You know, she's not dilly-dallying.
00:44:00Right, right, right.
00:44:01But if there's something really there,
00:44:03and you do have a connection,
00:44:05I guess it becomes how strong is that connection.
00:44:09Right.
00:44:11Her being matured, you know, and Logan...
00:44:14I mean, she'll have to have a lot of patience.
00:44:18But he's getting to the age where he's starting to...
00:44:21But he's getting, yeah, he's getting...
00:44:21You know, this is when men start to get their shit together.
00:44:24It's not an impossible situation.
00:44:26Right.
00:44:27It's just, it is what it is.
00:44:28Right.
00:44:29He's our only son.
00:44:31We are a small family, basically.
00:44:35Um...
00:44:36It would be nice to have, yeah, we have grandkids.
00:44:40But we trust Logan.
00:44:41Yeah, we're not running his life at this point in time.
00:44:45We have a serious connection, and I don't know what the fuck, what I'm gonna do.
00:44:51Well, you know, we love you.
00:44:52No matter what.
00:44:54You know that.
00:44:55If it's meant to be, it will happen.
00:44:59Believe me.
00:44:59You know, seeing my parents and Vanessa together, I'm still in shock.
00:45:04I still don't know how to process this.
00:45:06I mean, there's this woman that I'm falling for that, you know, when it's on, it's like, we connect so
00:45:12well.
00:45:12But then, you know, I'm constantly being reminded of all these factors that just are trying to bring this down.
00:45:20So it makes us frickin' hard.
00:45:32Oh, sweet home.
00:45:34What a day.
00:45:35What a day.
00:45:36What a day.
00:45:37Ugh.
00:45:41I'm exhausted.
00:45:44Are ya?
00:45:44Mm-hmm.
00:45:47Are you relieved, like, it's over?
00:45:51Like...
00:45:51Yeah.
00:45:52I'm definitely relieved it's over.
00:45:54I feel like even, like, seeing our friends together, like, um, it's not, like, the weirdest thing.
00:45:59Like, it might be, like, an age gap, your friends have kids, mine don't, like, mine are younger, like, whatever.
00:46:04But it's like, I feel like those are people that could interact normally, and it, like, wouldn't be weird.
00:46:09Do you know what I mean?
00:46:09Yeah.
00:46:10No, I would tear it up with them.
00:46:11I feel like we would have a real fun night out together.
00:46:13Yeah.
00:46:14You know?
00:46:16I could show Nina a thing or two.
00:46:17Yeah.
00:46:18Like, she had the headband ready.
00:46:20She was ready to break a sweat today and go in on me.
00:46:22Yeah.
00:46:23Is that...?
00:46:23Mm-hmm.
00:46:25No, she's always, she's always ready to fight.
00:46:27Do they like me?
00:46:28Do they hate me?
00:46:29I would say hate is a strong word.
00:46:31Mm-hmm.
00:46:32Yeah.
00:46:32Um, but I would say that they are really real with me, and, um, they asked me some hard-hitting
00:46:40questions
00:46:41that I think were important to bring to light before we move forward.
00:46:48Oh, yeah.
00:46:48Like what?
00:46:49I mean, they definitely were, like, thrown off by the kids thing.
00:46:53They were like, Libby, you're 22.
00:46:56I don't think you're ready to be a stepmom.
00:46:58Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:00And so to that point, I think if you kind of look at it for what it is, it sounds
00:47:06like,
00:47:07um, a little bit, um, nuts.
00:47:11No, it's a lot to unpack.
00:47:13Like, you know, trying to catch them up to speed of, like, what we've actually been doing.
00:47:18Yeah.
00:47:19But you did good.
00:47:20You did great.
00:47:21Yeah.
00:47:21Yeah, no, your friends, your friends seem...
00:47:23I mean, if I, those are, like, my real guy friends.
00:47:27And if I'm happy, they're happy for me.
00:47:29Will they ask questions along the way?
00:47:31Like, sure, you know?
00:47:32Like, you know, I can see the look in Amir's face.
00:47:34Like, I know what he's about to ask, and I'm like, I know what you're gonna say.
00:47:37I know what your concerns are.
00:47:39What did he say?
00:47:40What was his concerns?
00:47:41No, it's just like, you know, do you...
00:47:43What happens after this, you know?
00:47:46Right.
00:47:47With the girls and the long distance and all of that.
00:47:50Like, how does, how do the logistics work?
00:47:53And I'm like, you know, those are things that we're still sorting through.
00:47:56I don't know that we're going to, like, win everyone over with our relationship the first meeting.
00:48:02It's definitely gonna take time and one conversation.
00:48:05I think it went as good as it could for, you know, that for the first time.
00:48:14I definitely just in my feels tonight.
00:48:18I just...
00:48:19You're always in your feels.
00:48:19I know.
00:48:20I've definitely been in my feels a little bit.
00:48:22I think it's just because to have our friends be a little bit of a piece of this experience, I
00:48:28just think, you know, like, it means a lot.
00:48:30Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for Amir.
00:48:35I officiated their wedding, so like, you know, having him there today felt like maybe that was the start of
00:48:43him being a part of, you know, my forever love story.
00:48:48I'm very, very thankful and lucky and I feel very blessed tonight.
00:48:54My heart is definitely full.
00:48:56I'll probably sleep tonight finally.
00:48:59I'll sleep good tonight.
00:49:01Yeah, no more woosa.
00:49:03Yeah, no more woosa.
00:49:11Your parents are so cool.
00:49:13So chill.
00:49:16I feel like you're going to be so crazy.
00:49:18Nah.
00:49:19We're good.
00:49:20We did that yesterday.
00:49:21With the pillows.
00:49:22Oh, yeah.
00:49:23We're sleeping together in the sun.
00:49:25Yeah, I forgive you.
00:49:26You forgive me?
00:49:26I forgive you.
00:49:27Had a good day?
00:49:28No, it was pretty good.
00:49:29I mean, the pierce?
00:49:30Yeah, it was okay.
00:49:31It was good.
00:49:32It was better than I thought.
00:49:59Hey.
00:50:00What's going on?
00:50:02What have you been doing?
00:50:04Nothing.
00:50:04Just cleaning and reading.
00:50:06How was it?
00:50:07Incredible to see my mom and have her out here.
00:50:10And I think she was trying to get to the bottom of, like,
00:50:12how, you know, how this dynamic would work.
00:50:15Us moving in.
00:50:17Where would we move in?
00:50:19Relocating.
00:50:22To be honest, I think that after talking with my mom,
00:50:26I've never been in a point in my life where I'm so unsure
00:50:31to taking the next step, you know, past this commitment day,
00:50:34whatever it's going to be.
00:50:37We've built this connection that it means so much to me
00:50:40that it's like I'm trying to do right by you as best as I can.
00:50:46So I see you, like, not yourself completely.
00:50:51And I'm wondering what's going on.
00:50:54I don't know.
00:50:54I just say it just sucks that we just can never just live
00:50:57in a happy moment.
00:50:59You know what I'm saying?
00:51:00Like, we had a happy moment with your mom.
00:51:02You got to see her.
00:51:03We had a good time.
00:51:04And then it's like it got masked by your thoughts
00:51:08of thinking about what's going to happen in the future.
00:51:10You don't know if you're ready for something to commit to.
00:51:12Well, I don't think that's fair.
00:51:14I've been struggling putting my thoughts into words.
00:51:20And I can't stop saying this enough.
00:51:22How much I really care about this.
00:51:24If you're so unsure, but you want to commit,
00:51:28or I don't do the process, I guess what we call it, right?
00:51:31I just don't, I don't know how those work two and two.
00:51:36It's like you're so unsure about me, but you like me.
00:51:38I'm not unsure about.
00:51:39I don't know.
00:51:40What I'm unsure about is the next step.
00:51:42And I'm trying not to think about the next step.
00:51:44I'm trying to live in the moment.
00:51:45I'm trying to take it day by day.
00:51:46That's what I'm saying.
00:51:48It's interesting to me.
00:51:50I don't know.
00:51:50I thought we were in a cool space.
00:51:52But it's like every time we get to a good space, we're not.
00:51:56I'm trying to explain how I feel.
00:51:58I just don't know how to without saying something
00:52:00that's going to maybe offend you or like start an argument.
00:52:02I don't know.
00:52:03I don't want to argue with you.
00:52:04Just tell me how you feel.
00:52:05I think I understand.
00:52:07I feel like I'm walking on eggshells.
00:52:09I feel like anything I might say like might cause an issue or a problem.
00:52:12I don't want you to feel that way.
00:52:14I never want you to feel pressured by me that you have to even date me.
00:52:18I like you.
00:52:19I enjoy your company.
00:52:22Remember, we literally, we started out super fun, babe.
00:52:25You know?
00:52:26And I know we haven't.
00:52:28And I, I miss it.
00:52:29I know you miss it.
00:52:30And I just, but I want us, I mean, if we can get there, I don't know.
00:52:46I just want you to just give me a chance.
00:52:53I, I, I don't.
00:52:55Like, I want you to actually just, I want you to be able to relax.
00:53:01I want you to be you.
00:53:03I just, I'm struggling because I, I really care about this.
00:53:09And I really care about you.
00:53:11And I'm just exhausted and I'm overwhelmed because I feel like I can't be myself with you.
00:53:17Because I feel like I can't, because I feel like you can't understand.
00:53:20And when I, when I start talking, you don't even hear the emotion of what I'm talking about.
00:53:24Like, you, you don't hear what I'm actually trying to say.
00:53:27Like, I'm thinking, everything that I'm saying and thinking is with us in mind, you know?
00:53:31And I think that you're taking it, like, all I'm thinking about is myself.
00:53:34And that's the opposite of what I'm thinking.
00:53:35I'm putting myself last.
00:53:37That's what I'm trying to do, at least.
00:53:38Okay.
00:53:41I understand.
00:53:43Okay.
00:53:44It's, um...
00:53:47I'm just exhausted.
00:53:50Fine.
00:53:51I'm, like, mentally exhausted.
00:53:54I'm trying my best to explain myself.
00:54:04Maybe I'm not doing the best job.
00:54:16Can I sit by you?
00:54:19Maybe I'm not as mature, whatever, as I thought.
00:54:25But I'm trying to make this work and I'm trying to...
00:54:33I'm not, I really care about you and I care about us.
00:54:37It's not why I'm unsure.
00:54:39I'm unsure because I want...
00:54:40Because I think about the future a lot.
00:54:45I'm trying.
00:54:48I'm overwhelmed.
00:54:51I'm sorry.
00:54:55I don't know what to do.
00:55:08I'm sorry.
00:55:11I don't want you to ever feel like I'm pressuring you.
00:55:16I just want us to take it one day at a time.
00:55:18And we'll figure it out.
00:55:20Okay?
00:55:20I mean...
00:55:23...I don't know what to do.
00:55:23I'm sorry.
00:55:40I have to really hold it tight.
00:55:43Beauty is pain.
00:55:52Yeah.
00:55:54Your turn.
00:55:55My turn?
00:55:56I'm kidding.
00:55:57You don't want to do that.
00:56:03The bathroom has been fully taken over.
00:56:07Oops.
00:56:08I'll clean it up.
00:56:09It's not a joint bathroom anymore.
00:56:10It's just Libby's room.
00:56:12Do you have anything to say about that?
00:56:14Um, what do you need to do your makeup in here?
00:56:17I mean, I don't even think I've been allowed to step foot in here yet.
00:56:21You could step foot.
00:56:22Mm-hmm.
00:56:31Nice when you have a hairstylist to take care of you.
00:56:35Do you do beard hair a lot?
00:56:37Yes, I do beards a lot in my salon actually.
00:56:41We gotta keep it tight.
00:56:43Um, beards for men are like makeup for women.
00:56:47You gotta keep it looking good.
00:57:04Hey.
00:57:05Hi.
00:57:06How are ya?
00:57:07I like the dress.
00:57:09You look great.
00:57:09Thanks.
00:57:13So, tell me, did you end up late to the baseball game last night?
00:57:16Yeah, it's fine.
00:57:16I'm glad we're good to see you again.
00:57:18Yeah?
00:57:18I figured you'd do something.
00:57:20Yeah.
00:57:20What did Mom say after yesterday?
00:57:24Um, okay, so both Mom and I were concerned that she didn't volunteer the information to us that she had
00:57:33children.
00:57:33Mm-hmm.
00:57:34And I think that's a big deal for us.
00:57:37So, my next biggest concern, which is if you thought about what your life would look like day to day
00:57:42dating a woman who has two children.
00:57:45And it wouldn't be three children.
00:57:48Yeah.
00:57:48Okay.
00:57:48See, I didn't even know why the hesitancy in sharing that with us.
00:57:53Oh.
00:57:53You know her age, and you know about her children.
00:57:56How old is she?
00:57:58She's 54.
00:58:00She's 54.
00:58:01Okay.
00:58:02Okay.
00:58:03Her kids are much closer to my age than her age.
00:58:12The one son is two years older than me.
00:58:18Okay.
00:58:19That's probably her bombshell.
00:58:24I just want to make sure that I feel like you're still young.
00:58:28Mm-hmm.
00:58:28And I feel like you still have a lot of opportunities that you need to experience in life.
00:58:33And especially given her age, I want you to seriously think about what your life would look like with her,
00:58:40as opposed to maybe someone who is not married, or hasn't been married before, or someone who doesn't have children.
00:58:46Mm-hmm.
00:58:47Hearing it from your sister, hearing it from someone you really care about,
00:58:50I probably have a little more questions for myself.
00:58:54Is this for real?
00:58:56In real life, is this just a bubble thing?
00:59:00I've got to look myself in the mirror and make sure that I'm being completely honest with myself,
00:59:04and make sure I'm being completely honest with Theresa,
00:59:08and make sure that we're making the right decision.
00:59:10I hear your voice in the darkness
00:59:13And I see your face when you're not alone
00:59:17Got me high in the back of your mind
00:59:20And I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:24I'm by your side when you call me
00:59:27Cause I just can't bear when you're not alone
00:59:31Got me high in the back of your mind
00:59:34And I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:51Don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:55I hear your voice in the darkness
00:59:58And I see your face when you're not alone
01:00:02And I don't think I'll make it out alive
01:00:41That's the same pixie
01:00:41I hear your voice if I can make it out alive
01:00:42And I can't see that knowing right when I do the Bercht
01:00:42So what does mine feel like right
01:00:42What are you there, what do you think your mind
01:00:50Because I don't look up quite like that
01:00:50Especially yourself asking how to imagine
01:00:50You might laugh maior
01:00:52And you feel pretty grating
01:00:53What are you thinking of
01:01:01The Bercht
01:01:01I think you haven't mentioned
01:01:01It's very funny
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