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00:00Hello, I'm Angela Scanlon and welcome to The Apprentice Unfinished Business, where bargain hunting goes coastal.
00:06Coming up, I'll be diving into all things discount buying, with business powerhouse Linda Plant and Apprentice superfan Nikita Kanda.
00:14We say goodbye to fired candidate Harry, and Lord Sugar lets us in on whether our candidates have finally redeemed
00:20themselves after that tragic Hong Kong performance.
00:23It is time for The Apprentice Unfinished Business.
00:31Welcome, ladies.
00:32Yay!
00:35It is lovely to have you guys here.
00:37Now, let's go straight in.
00:39Task eight, discount buying the redemption story.
00:42How do we think they got on?
00:44I mean, they redeemed themselves, didn't they?
00:46They did way better than the first task.
00:47That wouldn't be hard now, to be fair.
00:49Look, Hong Kong was a tough task.
00:51It was, because first of all, Hong Kong is so big.
00:56There's Hong Kong, there's Kowloon, the New Territory.
00:57It's massive, much bigger.
00:59So it wasn't just that they made it look hard?
01:01It was hard.
01:02It was hard.
01:02And they had a language barrier.
01:04There is a language barrier there.
01:05I think they did well.
01:07Yes.
01:07Well, they weren't sweating this time.
01:08No.
01:09They were sweaty, the first episode.
01:11Yeah, the weather as well.
01:12The weather in Hong Kong as well.
01:14Yeah.
01:14Humid, rainy.
01:15It was tough.
01:16But also task one, trying to manage yourself, where you fit in a group, what people bring
01:23to the table the first time round.
01:25By task eight, they're much more experienced, they're much more together, they've got a lot
01:30more under their belts.
01:31How do you think you'd fare at this task, Nikita?
01:34Oh, well, I'm not going to lie.
01:36I didn't really know all the items that they had to go and get.
01:39So they did well for that.
01:40So hats off to them.
01:41Because there was some difficult named items.
01:43What did you think the bird's nest was?
01:45A bird's nest?
01:46Okay.
01:46I thought, oh, should I just go to my nan's garden and get it?
01:49Like, that's what I was thinking.
01:50I did not think it was a donut.
01:51I've never heard of a bird's nest donut before.
01:53No, sounds delicious, though.
01:55Bargaining's in your blood, I feel.
01:57I think you come into your own in this.
01:59Yeah, well, bargaining is.
02:02I'm a buyer and a seller, aren't I?
02:03So I think I'd have done pretty well at this.
02:06Because in this kind of a task, the first thing you've got to do is really know what
02:11the items are.
02:12Yeah.
02:12When you know what they are.
02:13And then you know how to go for the most expensive one first, because that's always
02:17the best way to plan it.
02:19There's a lot of planning.
02:20And, yeah, price negotiation and knowing not to waste time on a cheaper item, to waste
02:26a load of time for 25p better to prioritise and go for the hard negotiation on the most
02:33expensive item.
02:34You started on a market stall.
02:35So I feel like you would have, I imagine, people coming up and trying their luck.
02:40Yeah, well.
02:41Would you have given us 25p up, Linda?
02:43I was only 13 was on the market, so I was much nicer in those days.
02:49Nikita, do you remember like a bargain that you've kind of, you feel proud of?
02:54Do you know what?
02:55So whenever I've gone to buy like my Indian outfits, like I'm going to like my Indian
02:59weddings and stuff, you go to Southall, right?
03:01You go to the Indian shop and there's all the pretty saris and the lengahs and everything.
03:06And there is where you can really bargain.
03:10That is where I got my practice in for bargaining.
03:12And you know what?
03:13When you can get a really healthy discount, you feel so proud of yourself walking away.
03:17So when I go to that wedding and I've got my pretty dress on, I'm like, you know what?
03:21I got this for 50 quid and they were trying to sell it to me for 200.
03:25Get it, girl.
03:26That is where I feel proud.
03:28I feel proud of you too, babes.
03:29Out of all the negotiations, there was one that was somewhat unconventional.
03:34Shall we remind ourselves of Kieran and Lawrence mucking out the goats?
03:38Give me that.
03:39I'm getting in.
03:39You do it, mate.
03:41Go on.
03:43Yeah, I'm in.
03:45It stinks.
03:49They're not looking happy.
03:53That nearly went on me.
03:55You do your bit.
03:57I've done all of mine.
03:58I've done the worst part.
03:59There's only one of you doing any work here.
04:01Yeah, it's been like that all day, mate.
04:05They're like the chuckle brothers.
04:07Honestly, I love that bit.
04:09But what I love best as well was when, before they went into the negotiations, when they
04:14landed, they just both had a drink and they kind of went into relax.
04:18They went totally into relax mode.
04:20Yeah.
04:20And actually then they just sort of sauntered the afternoon away, doing out the goats thing,
04:25drinking.
04:26Yeah.
04:27So you like that approach?
04:29I don't like it, but it was very amusing and it was great TV.
04:33It was great.
04:34Kieran, it wasn't just with the goats that he got a bit frisky.
04:37The Maddox White, he was very smooth in his garlic negotiation, wasn't he?
04:41He should have just taken a bite, do you know what I mean?
04:44But he was a very...
04:45Oh, yeah.
04:45He was smizing.
04:46He was smizing, wasn't he?
04:47He was almost, he was almost smarmy.
04:50It was, I've got this.
04:52I've really got this.
04:54Yeah.
04:54And then you get...
04:55Well, he didn't.
04:55Because the other team actually negotiated a better price.
04:58And when you get that contrast with Priya, she's sweet, isn't he?
05:01And his idea, I mean, it could have gone wrong, but to pick the garlic.
05:05I know.
05:06That was great.
05:07The Moklin where, Rothner, she hung around for 25 people.
05:16Woman after my own heart.
05:17But maybe not really time well spent, Nikita.
05:22Yeah.
05:22She was trying to get every penny out of him.
05:25And I felt like she wanted to do it to make herself feel better too.
05:28Like, come on, just give me a bit more, give me a bit more.
05:30He was giving nothing.
05:31Yeah, and because he was giving nothing, she was like, go on, do me a favour.
05:35Like, be my friend.
05:36Obviously, she did waste a lot of time, just the 25 piece.
05:38She should have just cut her losses and left it.
05:40But then I'm also like, I get you, girl.
05:42Like, you just want to...
05:43But arguably, the most valuable thing out of that was the fact that they figured out what a cassette was.
05:48Because he looked like a man who knew what that was.
05:50And to be fair, that was quite difficult, because I actually thought that cassette was an eight-track player.
05:54So did I say.
05:55That was clever.
05:57We all learnt a lot, didn't we, from watching this talk?
05:59It's an educational programme, what can we say?
06:01And she potentially could have missed out, although their risky business paid off in the end.
06:07They swerved, last minute, a little detour to get the rhubarb and custard sweets.
06:13Yeah, I mean, they were lucky with that, weren't they?
06:15Because they were running towards the hoverboat after that.
06:18And the other team didn't end up getting it in the end.
06:20The other team that got to the boat early, they had the time to find the sweets.
06:24It wasn't a difficult item.
06:25A lot of the time, they're just looking at how many items they've gotten, rather than the value of it.
06:30Would you have risked it to get the sweets?
06:31Yeah, risked it for a chocolate biscuit, Angela.
06:35I've got a sweet tooth, so 100%, give me that rhubarb and custard now.
06:38I would have risked it as well.
06:39You would have.
06:39They had time, they had time.
06:40They had the time, and it wasn't a difficult find.
06:44So do you think the other team just sat back on the hovercraft, you know?
06:48Well, they were...
06:49Yeah.
06:50Go on, Linda, don't mince your words.
06:52They were what?
06:52Linda's holding back.
06:53Well, they were already in the winning mood.
06:55They were relaxing.
06:57We've got this in the bag.
06:59Cocky, some would say.
07:00Yeah, exactly.
07:01You know, and hoping and gains hope that they arrive late and miss the hovercraft.
07:06They nearly got their wish, to be fair.
07:07Yes, they did.
07:09Both PMs, very, very different approaches.
07:12What do you make of the management styles?
07:14Let's start, first of all, with Levi.
07:16So, Levi was really relaxed.
07:18He was kind of like, you can all do what you want.
07:19I'll leave it to you, whatever you decide.
07:22You could say Levi's management style strategy was non-existent.
07:26Okay.
07:27Actually.
07:28Okay.
07:28I mean, look, Levi's a good northern boy, and I'm a northern girl,
07:32so, you know, I've got to support him.
07:33You've got to back him.
07:34Yeah.
07:34No, it was non-existent, wasn't it?
07:36So, we're not backing him at all, actually.
07:38I mean, I've got to be honest.
07:41Look, he had no strategy.
07:43He had no time management.
07:45He didn't know how to split the teams,
07:47and he didn't know what any of the items were.
07:49So, that's...
07:50But he was on that phone, like a dinger all morning.
07:52Look, I didn't say he wasn't a trier.
07:54I didn't say he wasn't a trier.
07:56Kieran had unfinished business from Hong Kong,
08:00so he was like straight in,
08:01I want this task, I want to be PM.
08:03I was somewhat surprised that they handed it to him.
08:07Well, he did vote for himself as well, didn't he?
08:10Always.
08:10He did put his hand up to me.
08:11Got to back yourself.
08:12Yeah.
08:12I was surprised, too, just because he's been PM,
08:15and it obviously was a disaster for everyone...
08:18...on that first episode.
08:19But maybe they just thought,
08:20give him a chance to redeem himself.
08:22He's learnt.
08:23He, unlike Levi, had a very clear strategy,
08:27the 3-1-2 approach.
08:30Talk us through the 3-1-2 approach, Linda,
08:33and your experience of it.
08:34Well, I don't quite understand the 3-1-2 approach.
08:37Thank God, I thought it was just me.
08:38No, I didn't.
08:39And actually, the truth is,
08:40it was sort of sticking by,
08:41but he went by the wayside anyway.
08:43He went by the wayside.
08:45I think, you know, when you're negotiating,
08:48you should start low,
08:51because you can always go up.
08:52And I think it's quite good
08:54to be a bit charming and a bit nice.
08:57Pasha, she went in telling the lady,
08:59well, we haven't got much time,
09:01and could you, and would you,
09:03and we haven't got much time.
09:05I mean, oh, my God,
09:06if there was ever, don't do, that was it.
09:09Don't do that.
09:10Yeah, OK.
09:11So it's building the rapport, isn't it?
09:13And it's a bit of charm,
09:14and it's a bit of cheek.
09:15And rapport is everything.
09:17You get far more being nice and being charming
09:21and having a nice manner
09:23than you do sort of being a bit more aggressive
09:26in a bit more way.
09:26You get more bees with honey than with vinegar.
09:28Do you know something?
09:29I always say that.
09:31You get a lot more being nice
09:32than you do not being nice.
09:34Which is where I think possibly Kieran
09:36slightly fell down
09:38in that kind of dogmatic 3-1-2 approach,
09:41because I think sometimes it depends
09:43on the human that's in front of you,
09:44and they quite like the game
09:46and the dance of a negotiation,
09:47whereas it was a little too...
09:49I don't think there can ever be
09:50a dogmatic approach in negotiation.
09:53It's never, these are the rules,
09:55stick by it, never be there.
09:56You can't, that's not,
09:57that's not negotiation.
09:59Ultimately, with Levi winning
10:01on a last-minute sweet grab,
10:02do we think that this task
10:04really is less about bargaining skills
10:06and more about actual time management, Nikita?
10:08I think they need a bit of both,
10:10but I think it was more time management.
10:12They actually, the other team,
10:13had the time to go and get the sweets,
10:14but they wanted to just be back before them
10:17and wanted to be back early.
10:18I think if they had enough time,
10:20go and get them.
10:21The other team still managed to do it.
10:22Levi, they grabbed them
10:24and went, didn't they?
10:25Now, if Kieran's team had got that extra item,
10:28they still would have lost because of the sup.
10:31Well, the sup was the disaster.
10:33Well, Linda, don't get a start.
10:35I don't want to, you know.
10:36Don't get a start.
10:37I don't want to soften it.
10:38No.
10:40It was a disaster.
10:42It was, wasn't it?
10:44My book, it was a double disaster
10:46because he had five hours left.
10:50So, you know, he had plenty of time.
10:52You're on the Isle of Wight,
10:53so there's going to be a lot of surfboards.
10:56There's going to be a lot there.
10:58So, with five hours to go
10:59and paying such a high price,
11:01that was unforgivable.
11:03Before we meet our fired candidate, Harry,
11:06let's listen to what Lord Sugar has to say
11:08about the candidates redeeming themselves
11:10from the disaster of Hong Kong.
11:12Okay.
11:13Angela, I'll say this.
11:15It wasn't one for the history books,
11:17but at least this time,
11:19they actually came back with some items.
11:22Compared to Hong Kong shambles,
11:24this was a step in the right direction.
11:26But the lesson remains the same.
11:29If a deal's bad, walk away.
11:33Harry didn't do that with SUP.
11:35It hit the bottom line,
11:37and that's why, sadly, he's out.
11:42Linda, is it that?
11:43Is knowing when to walk away,
11:46is that a hard lesson that you have to learn
11:48through experience?
11:49You have to know what your bottom line is.
11:52What is your parameter?
11:53And if it doesn't meet that criteria,
11:55you have to walk away.
11:56And sometimes, walking away shows your opponent
12:00that actually, right, I've drawn a line,
12:02and sometimes it gives them the thing,
12:04well, let me come back.
12:05You have to know when to walk away.
12:07Otherwise, you can't be any good in business.
12:10Have you had any instances
12:11where you've had to walk away?
12:13I have.
12:14I have.
12:14I've had to walk away from two husbands.
12:17Don't film that.
12:20Was that easy or hard?
12:22Don't film it.
12:23I'll film it.
12:23I don't care.
12:24It might make you laugh.
12:28OK, it is time now
12:29to welcome our latest candidate
12:30to become extinct.
12:32Let's remind ourselves
12:33of Harry's last moments
12:35in the boardroom.
12:37It is regretful when I say that
12:40my gut feeling is telling me,
12:43Harry, you're fired.
12:45Thank you very much for the opportunity,
12:47Lord Sugar.
12:47Tim, Baron Spurdy,
12:48it's been absolutely amazing.
12:50OK.
12:50Good luck to you.
12:52Thank you so much.
12:55Sup, Harry?
12:56Yes, there.
12:57Thanks for having me.
12:58Harry, I couldn't resist.
13:00Nice socks.
13:01Oh, thank you so much.
13:01Yeah, no, I didn't actually mean
13:03to go in all pink today,
13:04but I have.
13:04We are appreciative of it.
13:07How did it compare
13:07watching that back
13:08versus Hong Kong?
13:11It was pretty painful.
13:12I'm not going to lie.
13:13Like, this one,
13:14it was a much higher stakes,
13:16less people,
13:17and everyone just knew
13:18more how to do stuff.
13:19Yeah.
13:20So it was kind of scary.
13:21But you seemed to know
13:22all of the items,
13:23which was a lot more
13:24than could be said
13:24for some of the others.
13:26Yeah, I knew what
13:27the rhubarb and custards were.
13:28Yeah.
13:28Because I, at school,
13:29used to be able to watch films
13:31and have sweets,
13:31so they always have them.
13:32Delicious.
13:33Love boozing,
13:34so one of them sounded
13:36kind of alcoholic
13:37because 75 centimetres.
13:39Yeah.
13:39And then I also,
13:40what was the other one?
13:41Iguanodon.
13:41I've obviously heard of
13:42iguanas before
13:44and dinosaurs.
13:44Do you think, though,
13:46knowing that many,
13:47because it was like,
13:47bang, bang, bang,
13:48we know what we're out to get,
13:50gave your team confidence
13:52in the first instance?
13:53Yeah, I think so.
13:54Like, I think, obviously,
13:55if you know what it is,
13:56and sometimes you're wrong,
13:57which obviously we were,
13:58but it really helps
14:00because it saves you
14:01so much time
14:01because at the beginning,
14:02you're kind of,
14:03you don't know where to go,
14:04so you have to drive somewhere.
14:06So you're just driving
14:07around aimlessly.
14:07You could be going
14:08completely the other side
14:09of the island
14:09to where the item is
14:10you need to get.
14:12And it just means
14:12that, you know,
14:13like, right,
14:14let's say we thought
14:14the sup was a fish,
14:15you ring up a fishmonger,
14:16you're like,
14:16oh, we'd like to get a sup,
14:18please, make sure it's got fins.
14:20It obviously doesn't have fins
14:21and there's no sup,
14:22but it does help,
14:23I think, 100%.
14:24Also, you've got
14:25a pretty good idea,
14:26if you know what the items are,
14:27you've got a pretty good idea
14:28the sweets are going to be
14:30a lot cheaper
14:30than a stand-up paddle ball
14:31and that also helps.
14:33Absolutely,
14:34and I think to know
14:35which to prioritise
14:36and which one's
14:37going to cost you more.
14:38Let's get into
14:39some of the items,
14:40having watched the task back,
14:41the rhubarb
14:41and custard sweets,
14:43okay, you backed Conor
14:44when he said,
14:45do you know what,
14:46there's not enough time,
14:48we're not going to chance it.
14:49Are you happy
14:50with that call?
14:52I'm now devastated
14:52about it,
14:53but I think it was
14:53the right call,
14:54I do.
14:55I think, like,
14:56looking back,
14:57obviously we had time
14:58and we could have got them,
14:59so it wasn't technically
15:00the right call,
15:01but at the time,
15:02especially after Hong Kong
15:02where, like,
15:03the girls were so late
15:05and that cost them so much.
15:07You don't want to be
15:07waving the hovercraft goodbye.
15:09Exactly,
15:09and I think the difference
15:10between Hong Kong
15:11and that one
15:12was the hovercraft leaves
15:14and it doesn't come back,
15:15but in Hong Kong,
15:16the Buddha's always
15:17going to be there.
15:19Night falls,
15:20you can still rise.
15:21He will be there
15:22in the morning.
15:23I do guess,
15:24coming from a man
15:25who had five more hours
15:27to negotiate on a sup,
15:29you were time,
15:30you really valued time,
15:32didn't you?
15:33You know,
15:33looking back on it,
15:34it looks really stupid.
15:35I agree.
15:36But time is so,
15:38like,
15:38you're so pushed for time
15:39and time is always...
15:40You weren't.
15:41You weren't.
15:42To be fair,
15:42you were not pushed for time.
15:44Well,
15:44it's more like
15:44when you don't have
15:45enough items
15:47at that particular time.
15:48It's not like,
15:49OK,
15:49there's five hours left,
15:50we've got loads of time
15:51because that is a long time.
15:52What we also had,
15:53the issue,
15:54was we called so many people
15:55and none of them had them.
15:57So we were like,
15:59oh,
15:59when we find it,
16:00we panicked.
16:00Panicked a little bit.
16:01And that was like,
16:02oh my God,
16:03they've got it,
16:03we need to get it.
16:04And they were like,
16:05we've only got one left,
16:05which made us panic even more
16:06because it was like,
16:07oh my God,
16:07what did the other team
16:07go get that one?
16:08Classic.
16:09We've only got one left.
16:10Do you think it was not
16:11that right?
16:11They had a whole stock room
16:12with those puppies.
16:13That is so classic.
16:16They're selling fast,
16:17you better get here quickly.
16:19The dust gathering.
16:20A factory down the back
16:21and making them,
16:21but yeah.
16:22Nikita,
16:22what would you have done
16:23in the instance of this up?
16:25I didn't know
16:26what it was first,
16:27so yeah,
16:27probably would have taken me ages
16:28as well to figure out
16:29what it was,
16:30but I would have walked away.
16:31I feel like that's
16:32a really good trick.
16:33I mean,
16:33I've always been taught it
16:34from like young,
16:35we've been on holiday,
16:36family holidays,
16:36and like,
16:37you know,
16:37you're trying to buy
16:37some souvenirs
16:38for your friends and family
16:39and they're trying to
16:40up the price
16:40because they know
16:41you're not from there
16:41and then you walk away
16:42and you come back,
16:43so I would have walked away,
16:45I think.
16:45To be honest,
16:46I didn't even know
16:46walking away was an option.
16:50But like,
16:51here he is.
16:53And what did you make
16:54of Kieran and Lawrence's
16:55lads' day out?
16:57To be honest,
16:57I absolutely loved
16:58watching it back.
16:59I think it was hilarious.
17:00At the time,
17:01I didn't realise
17:01they got such good deals
17:02because the deals
17:03were quite good.
17:04I think personality
17:05and business
17:06goes a long way
17:07and like,
17:07they did really get on
17:09with all the people
17:10they were selling to.
17:10Like,
17:11they were cracking up,
17:12all that sort of stuff.
17:13Fine,
17:13it wasn't Kieran's idea
17:15to,
17:15he wanted to do things
17:16quick and fast
17:16and get out,
17:17but they got a good deal
17:18and I didn't.
17:19And the charm
17:20gets you a long way.
17:21Absolutely,
17:21yeah.
17:22Well,
17:22you're very charming,
17:23Harry.
17:24And that's why
17:24I was quite disappointed
17:25watching the show back
17:26because I was like,
17:27I don't think,
17:28like,
17:28I come across
17:29really boring.
17:30You come across
17:30very serious.
17:31Yeah,
17:31very serious.
17:32I'm actually meeting you now,
17:32you're not that serious.
17:33I literally,
17:34I'm like the least serious person
17:35ever,
17:35but I literally look
17:36like the most boring.
17:37It does not come across
17:39like that.
17:40Lighten up on the show,
17:41but you're fired now.
17:43It's too late.
17:44The advice has come too late.
17:47It's too late.
17:48It felt like we didn't see
17:49your impact very much
17:51in some of the shows.
17:52Yeah.
17:53And I know Lord Sugar
17:54said you're a very nice
17:56young man.
17:57Yeah.
17:58Which,
17:58you know,
17:59is a lovely thing to say,
18:00but does it feel like
18:01that's not conducive
18:03to good business?
18:04Well,
18:05niceness is good,
18:06but it doesn't get to
18:07win the apprentice,
18:09does it?
18:09It's nice to be nice.
18:10I know because
18:11how nice I am
18:12when I'm interviewing people.
18:14But the thing is,
18:16the thing is,
18:17it doesn't really,
18:19it's part of,
18:20it can be part
18:20of a business negotiation.
18:22It can be part
18:23of a tactic.
18:24Yeah.
18:25But in this case,
18:26niceness didn't
18:27get you anywhere.
18:28No.
18:28And we didn't even
18:29see it from you.
18:30You're so much more
18:30relaxed and fun now.
18:32I do think that
18:33a lot of stuff
18:34I did wasn't seen
18:35because it wasn't
18:37particularly dramatic.
18:38I was just
18:39getting it done.
18:40And like,
18:41I do,
18:42I,
18:42watching it back
18:43as a viewer,
18:44looked like I did
18:45actually nothing
18:45for the first four episodes.
18:47the statistics,
18:48Harry,
18:48speak for themselves
18:49because you won
18:49five out of the eight tasks.
18:52Yeah.
18:52The only person
18:53still standing
18:53with that amount
18:54is Levi.
18:55What do you make of that?
18:56I think
18:57it's,
18:57it's tough
18:58because obviously,
18:59I think when you win more,
19:00which is not,
19:01I'm not saying it
19:01because of me,
19:02but when you win more,
19:03you have less
19:04one-on-one time
19:04with Lord Sugar,
19:05you're less under the cosh
19:07when it comes to like,
19:08if you're getting brought back
19:09every week,
19:10you know exactly
19:11how to...
19:12You've got more confidence.
19:13you've got more confidence.
19:14Or you're less frightened
19:15in that moment.
19:15Less frightened
19:15and you've also put your case
19:17across to Lord Sugar
19:17so many times
19:18and you're like,
19:19you know what,
19:19I've survived that
19:20so I can survive it again.
19:21When I went in there,
19:22I was like,
19:23oh my God,
19:24I don't know what to say
19:25and I actually,
19:25I didn't really
19:26back myself up
19:27that much.
19:28I wish I said
19:30I won last week at PM.
19:32Admittedly,
19:32a lot of people say
19:33that was because of Krishma
19:33but it was like,
19:35I strongly believe
19:36a good leader in business
19:37doesn't necessarily
19:38have to do it all themselves.
19:38They put people
19:39in the right place,
19:40they make people feel
19:41like they can be positive
19:43and impact.
19:44You've got to have a team
19:45and you've got to
19:45empower your team.
19:46Yeah, exactly.
19:48So do you think
19:49it was tough
19:50being brought back
19:51for the first time?
19:52I was terrified.
19:53Okay,
19:54whereas the other guys
19:55had been there before
19:56and were ready to go
19:57to battle for themselves.
19:58I think so
19:58and like they'd proved
19:59themselves as characters
20:00on the show
20:01and like I really hadn't.
20:03Like I'd hardly been
20:05in the boardroom,
20:05I hadn't really had to speak
20:06in the boardroom
20:08and like I feel like
20:09I contributed quite a lot
20:10but like it kind of
20:12was lost in the noise
20:13and which is sad for me
20:15because I,
20:16you know,
20:17I don't have much game
20:17for me apart
20:17from my character
20:18so I was like,
20:19I'm not going to come across.
20:20That's a lot of the point
20:21of the show.
20:22I know.
20:22You start off
20:23with a large number
20:24of candidates
20:25and you come down
20:26to the final five
20:27and it's gruelling
20:28actually.
20:29It's hard.
20:29To go through,
20:30it's gruelling
20:31and so when you get
20:32to the final five,
20:33even though sometimes
20:33I'm tough on them
20:34when I'm interviewing them
20:36but it's really tough
20:37to go through
20:38all those weeks
20:39and get there.
20:40So don't beat yourself
20:42up too much,
20:43you know,
20:43looking back
20:44because it's a tough process.
20:46Lord Sugar admitted
20:47that it was not
20:48an easy decision.
20:49Did that soften
20:50the blow at all?
20:51Yeah,
20:52I think.
20:52No.
20:53Hard no.
20:54I was about to still laugh
20:55and then,
20:56yeah,
20:56easy or not.
20:57I mean,
20:57no,
20:57it does.
20:57It's really nice
20:58to like,
20:59to hear him say that.
21:01I think like,
21:02I was up against
21:02Kieran and Connor,
21:03arguably like the two
21:04biggest characters
21:05characters on this show
21:07at the moment
21:08and I knew that
21:09I was screwed
21:10as soon as I was
21:11in that bottom three.
21:11I was like,
21:12you know,
21:12this is the end.
21:14Obviously,
21:14I'd only just seen
21:15that he said that
21:15so it's very sweet
21:17and like,
21:17it's nice to
21:18at least have
21:19something said about you.
21:20It's better than saying,
21:20what a horrible guy,
21:21get him out.
21:22But like,
21:22yeah.
21:23You had a nice firing,
21:24I think.
21:24Yeah,
21:24it was.
21:25And it was a dilemma
21:26for Lord Sugar.
21:27He did sort of say
21:28it was tough,
21:29it wasn't easy.
21:30Yeah,
21:31which is nice,
21:31obviously,
21:32yeah.
21:32Is it awkward
21:33when you all argue
21:33in the boardroom?
21:35It's like,
21:35it is.
21:36And also,
21:37because you're facing forward,
21:38you don't like
21:38look each other in the eye
21:39and say,
21:39you're like,
21:40I hate him.
21:42It's like being at school
21:43and you're like a naughty one,
21:44it's like,
21:44he did it.
21:46So it's like,
21:47when he puts out his finger
21:48to fire you,
21:49I basically went like cross-eyed
21:50and like,
21:51you know,
21:51when you see like three
21:52or something.
21:52Did he think it wasn't you?
21:54Oh no.
21:56Which one?
21:57And he'll like,
21:57dodge out the way,
21:58you're like,
21:58it's not me,
21:58but anyway,
21:59yeah.
21:59It was you, babe.
22:00It was me.
22:01I'm so sorry.
22:02What were your highlights, Harry?
22:04I think like,
22:05I felt so lucky to be on it
22:07because I'd applied
22:08two years before.
22:09So this was the third time
22:10I'd applied.
22:11Third time lucky.
22:11And I'd always got quite far,
22:12but not far enough.
22:13And this was like the time
22:14that I was on it
22:14and I was like,
22:15this is insane.
22:16And I was like,
22:17you know what,
22:17this is the coolest experience ever.
22:19Going to Hong Kong,
22:20like going to Egypt,
22:22meeting other candidates
22:22because they're like
22:23going to be friends for life.
22:24So I think,
22:25you know,
22:26not many people say
22:26they've been fired
22:27by Lord Sugar,
22:28which is not something
22:29probably to brag about,
22:29but no,
22:30it was amazing.
22:31So lots of highlights for you.
22:32Lord Sugar definitely
22:33had a highlight of his own.
22:35Shall we remind ourselves?
22:37I don't know you had Harry
22:38dressed as a chicken.
22:38I was dressed as a chicken.
22:39You were dressed as a chicken?
22:41I was Lord Sugar.
22:41It was a difficult time.
22:44I heard it was
22:45a very tight chicken.
22:47It was very tight.
22:48Yeah.
22:49Yeah.
22:49I think your nuggets
22:50were shown.
22:51Yeah.
22:54Oh,
22:54that cracked me up.
22:55That was a very good line.
22:56It was very tight.
22:57Yeah,
22:57well done you for that.
22:58It was a good line.
22:59You became the go-to
23:01dress-up guy,
23:02the chicken and the flowers
23:03and the everything.
23:04Was that voluntary
23:05or were you shoved?
23:07I can't quite remember.
23:08I think the chicken,
23:09sadly,
23:09was voluntary.
23:10Okay.
23:10By having seen how tight it was,
23:12I probably wouldn't have volunteered.
23:13Yeah.
23:13I do think,
23:14I mean,
23:14I think eventually
23:15I was just the costume guy,
23:16so you've got to wear a costume
23:17and just sort of hand it straight to me.
23:18Yeah.
23:19And that was sort of it.
23:20Well,
23:20at least you had an identity.
23:21Yeah,
23:22at least I could do something
23:22in the time.
23:23I mean,
23:24it was just nice to be involved.
23:25I don't take myself too seriously,
23:27although throughout the whole season
23:28I look like I do.
23:29I,
23:30in my life,
23:31don't think I take myself too seriously
23:32and something like that,
23:33I think it,
23:34obviously someone's got to do it.
23:35It helps the team
23:35and it's just fun.
23:36Like it gives you a bit more of a,
23:39you know,
23:39people are going to,
23:39if you're selling something in a market
23:41and you're just being boring
23:41and being like,
23:42oh,
23:42hi,
23:42come over here
23:43or if you're dressed as a chicken
23:44and you start clucking,
23:45there's a big difference.
23:46The longevity of the show
23:48is the fact that actually
23:49it is a fun,
23:50it's a fun show.
23:51It's got a serious side to it,
23:53but it's amusing
23:54and it's fun
23:56and it's great TV
23:57and that's why,
23:58that's why we've done 20 years.
24:00Okay,
24:01we're moving on
24:01to Board Room Bangers
24:03where our guests each
24:05choose a little song
24:06that sums up the week's task.
24:08Linda,
24:09what have you gone for?
24:10Well,
24:11Harry,
24:11watching you negotiate,
24:13there was only one song
24:14that came to mind
24:16and that was...
24:21Could have done a demo.
24:22Yeah,
24:23it would have been good.
24:25I thought it was going to be worse
24:26to be honest,
24:26I'm crying.
24:28Dusty,
24:29not a pwiff of dust on that.
24:31Beautiful,
24:32Nikita.
24:33Well,
24:34my choice goes out to Kieran
24:36for being such a charmer,
24:38you know,
24:38such a good flirt
24:40as well.
24:40We can all learn something from him
24:42and I just liked his smooth ways
24:43so I went for this.
24:44He's a smooth operator
24:50Smooth operator
24:53Nice.
24:54Good choices there.
24:55How do you feel about those?
24:56I was very happy.
24:57I thought it was going to come off
24:58a lot worse than me.
24:59No,
24:59you're safe.
25:00Kieran was unbelievable.
25:01Watching that back,
25:02how can he,
25:03where's the confidence from?
25:04Honestly,
25:05does that translate to
25:06back in the house?
25:07Yeah,
25:08yeah.
25:08Okay.
25:08I mean,
25:09I love Kieran,
25:10he's one of the most confident
25:10people I've ever met in my life.
25:12He says he's not a real estate,
25:14he said he's not a real estate,
25:15he's so a real estate agent.
25:17Oh my God,
25:18he is so.
25:19Moving on to our next task,
25:21task nine.
25:22We're jumping from one fan favourite
25:24to another
25:24because it is time for TV selling.
25:27And as always,
25:28I've got an exclusive clip for us.
25:30Imagine a gym and your house.
25:33Dan looks very static.
25:34Let's get some movement.
25:35I'm going to get you
25:36to pop down on your knees
25:37and do a plank for me.
25:39We also have a timer on here,
25:41so I'm going to set a 30 second timer
25:42for you to hold your plank
25:43for 30 minutes.
25:4530 minutes?
25:47Strong core.
25:48Good work, Dan.
25:49And now,
25:49I'm going to join you as well
25:51for a little bit of Pilates
25:52on the same side.
25:53We've got zero coolers,
25:55lads.
25:55I need Dan to really get into it.
26:00To really get into it.
26:03Like,
26:03that looked,
26:04they were sweating
26:05buckets
26:05and they're two
26:06relatively fit-looking lads.
26:08I don't know
26:08if you're selling that
26:09to me sitting at home
26:09and me knickers
26:10watching telly.
26:11Well, zero callers
26:11might say it all.
26:13That's my favourite task.
26:15Yeah.
26:15I love watching it.
26:16I must say,
26:16it's mine.
26:17I was glad to have missed it.
26:18That was the one
26:18I wanted to do
26:19and I was like...
26:20You would have worn
26:20another suit or something.
26:21I wonder what costume
26:22you'd have worn in that.
26:23Yeah, I know.
26:25Full,
26:25like, lycra.
26:29Nikita,
26:29you do live radio.
26:30Would you love
26:30this TV selling task?
26:32Oh, I would love it.
26:32I think there's nothing better
26:33than being live.
26:34I think you get that buzz
26:35but you've really
26:36got to think on your feet.
26:37You've got no time
26:38to mess around.
26:39If things go wrong,
26:40it goes wrong.
26:40You just laugh it off
26:41and carry on.
26:42So I think they need
26:43to be good at just
26:43getting on with it
26:44and just thinking
26:45quick on their feet.
26:46Yeah.
26:47Linda,
26:47this is always
26:48a really fun task.
26:50Exposing a little bit.
26:52What is this really testing?
26:54Well,
26:54I think that you've
26:55got to look at the item.
26:57It's got to have
26:58commercial appeal.
26:59That is the key.
27:01So really and truthfully,
27:03pile it high,
27:04sell it cheap,
27:05lifestyle kind of things
27:06that you can sell loads of
27:07because they're 50 quid
27:08and not 350 quid.
27:09Yeah.
27:10Right.
27:10So I think it's important
27:12but the most important thing
27:13before you've started
27:14your selling tactic,
27:15have I picked an item
27:16that the people
27:17are going to want
27:18and it's going to be
27:19easy for me to sell?
27:20Yeah.
27:21And to demonstrate
27:22and to build up excitement.
27:24Once you've got that,
27:25demonstrate it,
27:26show them why they need it,
27:27why they must get it.
27:28Yeah.
27:28And of course,
27:29it's much easier
27:30if they've only got to
27:31lay out 50 quid,
27:3260 quid.
27:32If you're starting
27:33with a high ticket price,
27:36it's a harder sell.
27:37Yeah.
27:37It's exciting, isn't it?
27:39We're galloping
27:40towards the end.
27:41Thank you so much
27:42for joining us.
27:42Harry, Nikita and Linda.
27:44Thanks so much
27:44for having us.
27:45Brilliant.
27:48Join us next time
27:49for more Unfinished Business
27:50on BBC Two,
27:52iPlayer or BBC Sounds
27:53straight after The Apprentice.
27:55We will return
27:56for our next task
27:57where it's bright lights,
27:58bold claims
27:58and absolutely nowhere to hide.
28:01I'm Angela Scanlon.
28:02Goodbye.
28:06Radio One's longest ride
28:07for Red Nose Day
28:08rolls on.
28:09I'm Greg James
28:10and to hear how I'm getting on,
28:11listen on BBC Sounds.
28:17Radio Two,
28:18on BBC Two,
28:18on BBC Two.
28:31Today comes the
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