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00:00:07you
00:00:08You've all agreed to come here to take an unconventional approach to find love
00:00:14How are you good, how are you good, what was your name do it do it I'm
00:00:24Think you're kind of sometimes sort of okay cool
00:00:30Do you want to get married?
00:00:37Romeo Romeo
00:00:39If you feel as if you've found that special connection you can invite that person into the promise room. I'm
00:00:4554
00:00:45My son is older than you. I had a child before he was even born from 27
00:01:00I'm 60
00:01:02He's 33 years older than me
00:01:05Jorge's literally the same age as my parents
00:01:11Now it's time to take things to the next level as you'll all move in together and begin to ask
00:01:16the tough questions
00:01:17Do we see a future together? The real world is about to smack us in the face
00:01:21Do you see me as somebody that's you know as your equal or do you see me as somebody who
00:01:26is lesser because you're older than I am?
00:01:28You have to trust your partner and I have to trust mine if we don't if you don't have that
00:01:33Okay, I'm really done. Okay, can I get this mic off him please?
00:01:37I've never felt this way for someone before
00:01:41I can't believe you right now
00:01:46It's kind of like the honeymoon phase was the retreat and we're already past the honeymoon phase
00:01:50This is where things get real
00:01:54Because it's time to introduce your bold new love story
00:01:58To the people who matter most your friends your families if like my kids are here, and they're like mom
00:02:07This is not good. I don't know if I could move forward with them
00:02:11Meeting our family is another step my nervous about introducing
00:02:17Somebody that's 20 years older than me to my parents
00:02:23Yes
00:02:28This hell won't give me what I want
00:02:31I'm scared but not afraid enough
00:02:35Cause forever's starting here and now
00:02:41Now you're cleaning
00:02:42What?
00:02:43Now you're suddenly like domesticated
00:02:46Someone's coming to town for you
00:02:48Oh, they're not coming here
00:02:50I'm sure they're not staying here
00:02:51That would be so awkward and weird
00:02:55Um, how do you feel?
00:02:56I feel good
00:02:58I'm excited to see who it is
00:03:01Who do you think it is?
00:03:02Your sister and your parents
00:03:06Um, I don't think it's both my parents
00:03:08I think it's probably
00:03:11My
00:03:15Maybe it's mom and sister
00:03:18I'm excited
00:03:19Me seeing my family first will be easier for me when I meet yours
00:03:24Yeah
00:03:24Because I'm nervous about yours
00:03:28So I get to get mine out
00:03:30Great
00:03:30I get to get mine out of the way first
00:03:33How do you feel?
00:03:35Definitely nervous
00:03:39Like
00:03:40I don't
00:03:41Yeah
00:03:42I'm trying to remember when the last time
00:03:44That I've been in this kind of a situation
00:03:47Meeting a family
00:03:48It's been a long time
00:03:50So are you going to tell them age?
00:03:53No, because you don't want me to tell them age
00:03:56Are you, like, on the same page as me
00:03:58With, like, them getting to know me before that?
00:04:01Absolutely
00:04:02Absolutely
00:04:02And that's why this whole experience has been cool
00:04:04Because that's how I do it in the real world
00:04:06I don't care
00:04:06If I don't
00:04:08If your kids don't like me
00:04:10This is done
00:04:11Right
00:04:11If you didn't like me
00:04:12It doesn't matter how old I am
00:04:13If I didn't like you
00:04:15It doesn't matter how old you are
00:04:16True
00:04:16So
00:04:18I think build the base
00:04:20What we've done
00:04:21Yeah
00:04:22And then
00:04:23You even said it
00:04:24You wouldn't have gone out with me
00:04:25If you knew my age from the beginning
00:04:26Right
00:04:27And look what you would have missed out on
00:04:31I know
00:04:32Right
00:04:33Yeah, I would have missed out on a great guy
00:04:35I might just go throw up a little bit
00:04:40I'm just kidding
00:04:41I try to you
00:04:43Try to hide the truth
00:04:44But I
00:04:45I know
00:04:46I gotta be closer to you
00:04:49You pull me back when I walk away
00:04:52Cause you know
00:04:54I gotta be closer to you
00:04:57I'm feeling terrible
00:04:58I'm not even feeling terrible
00:04:59Yeah
00:05:00I'm big stressed though
00:05:01I think last night I was in a good mood
00:05:04I was like, oh, it's so excited
00:05:05To see everybody
00:05:06Whoever it may be
00:05:08Yeah
00:05:08And then I woke up this morning
00:05:09And I was like
00:05:11I'm not excited anymore
00:05:13Yeah
00:05:14So
00:05:15Stressed out
00:05:16Yeah, I'm super stressed
00:05:18I'm not going to be hesitant
00:05:19Because I have no control over who's coming
00:05:22Or like what that's going to look like
00:05:24Yeah
00:05:26But yeah, I'm definitely like
00:05:27I woke up not
00:05:28Not feeling bad
00:05:30In a great mood
00:05:30Yeah
00:05:30Nervous
00:05:31Yeah
00:05:32I don't really want to dive into all this right now
00:05:35Yeah, I understand
00:05:36Um, but I'm just
00:05:38Yeah, I'm like not feeling great
00:05:40About that
00:05:43Well, I'm supportive
00:05:44I hope you know
00:05:45I know, I know, I know, I know
00:05:47Uh, with whoever is coming
00:05:49With whoever is coming, right
00:05:50Um, I mean, it's kind of a part of it
00:05:53Like, yes, it's all very new
00:05:55But the point is to face the challenges of the other side of the fence
00:06:00Right
00:06:01And face them together
00:06:02If
00:06:03The connection and the relationship's strong enough
00:06:06But that's
00:06:07Perfectly normal for you to be
00:06:10A little bit nervous
00:06:11About it
00:06:12What would be your perfect scenario?
00:06:14Don't
00:06:14I don't want to do this right now
00:06:16Okay
00:06:18I just
00:06:19I don't want to talk about it right now
00:06:21And I really don't want to have
00:06:24I just don't want to have a conversation
00:06:28No
00:06:30We're not here
00:06:35Last night
00:06:36I don't think it really hit me
00:06:38What's in store for us
00:06:40With our families coming
00:06:41To put it frankly
00:06:43They've never really seen me
00:06:45Emotional
00:06:46Or vulnerable
00:06:47With a man
00:06:48And I've also never brought anybody home
00:06:51Nearly as old as Derek
00:06:53I'm just afraid
00:06:57And anxious
00:07:06Yeah
00:07:07No, you really
00:07:29The more time I'm spending with Logan
00:07:31I'm starting to see potential red flags
00:07:33Like his fear of commitment
00:07:35You know
00:07:36And he's getting scared
00:07:37And I think he has things
00:07:38That he has to work through
00:07:40And maybe some growing up to do
00:07:44I'm the oldest of three girls
00:07:45And my sisters are a year apart
00:07:48And they just have like
00:07:50Their picture perfect lives
00:07:51And everything's dandy
00:07:54And I'm just the one
00:07:55And I'm just the one that keeps like
00:07:56Screwing up everything
00:07:58With my relationships
00:07:59It's like
00:08:00I wanted to find my person
00:08:01So I could fit in
00:08:03So I could go do these things
00:08:04You know
00:08:05And it's like
00:08:06Is my person a 29 year old
00:08:08Like am I gonna build a life with him
00:08:11You know
00:08:15This is gonna be hard to say
00:08:23I thought maybe this was my chance
00:08:26But like as I'm moving forward
00:08:28I don't know
00:08:29I don't know if this is it
00:08:35Breathe the air tonight
00:08:42Breathe the air tonight
00:08:48Breathe the air tonight
00:08:53Here's my
00:08:54Okay.
00:08:59Oh, hi.
00:09:01Oh my God.
00:09:03How are you?
00:09:03This is crazy.
00:09:05Sarah, Teresa.
00:09:07Hi, I'm Sarah.
00:09:08Do you want to give you a hug?
00:09:08Hi, I love you.
00:09:10I'm Teresa.
00:09:11Yeah, thank you.
00:09:13Hi, I'm Brenda.
00:09:14Hi, nice to meet you.
00:09:15Yeah, thank you.
00:09:17This is crazy.
00:09:18This is our table.
00:09:20Nice.
00:09:23That's really pretty.
00:09:24He's been talking a lot about you, so I feel like I already know you guys to a certain
00:09:27extent.
00:09:28This is crazy.
00:09:28And you must be, like, in shock, I'm sure.
00:09:31Yeah.
00:09:32Yeah?
00:09:33It's okay.
00:09:35I am in shock.
00:09:36I think he's probably more in shock now today.
00:09:39Yeah.
00:09:40Okay, wait.
00:09:41But I want to hear about you guys, so tell me, how did you first meet?
00:09:46Like, what happened?
00:09:47We hit it off pretty fast.
00:09:49Mm-hmm.
00:09:50Um...
00:09:50You were in, like, one big room, and you all met each other?
00:09:53Yeah.
00:09:53Like, happy hours.
00:09:54Speed dating.
00:09:54Speed dating thing to start.
00:09:56Okay.
00:09:56At the retreat, you're supposed to make connections.
00:09:58Nobody knows anybody's age.
00:09:59And then, if you want to, you commit to just dating one person.
00:10:04Mm-hmm.
00:10:04And then, if the feelings are mutual, you reveal your age.
00:10:10Yeah.
00:10:11Oh.
00:10:11Okay.
00:10:12That's the big, the reveal.
00:10:14Yeah.
00:10:15Our next step was to live together.
00:10:19And it's been fun.
00:10:21Mm-hmm.
00:10:22Oh, wow.
00:10:22Yeah.
00:10:24Did you think that you would find a match with someone who's younger than you?
00:10:29Or did you think that you were just, you know, whoever it is?
00:10:32Or...
00:10:33No, I mean, there were all ages and everything.
00:10:36Okay.
00:10:36And, like, when you don't know some of those, like, details, and you're just meeting each
00:10:41other based on, like, how you interact.
00:10:43How you interact.
00:10:44Compatibility.
00:10:45And, like, attraction and all that other stuff.
00:10:47Like, does, like, what really matters in a relationship and what's important.
00:10:52I mean, I think we both really like each other and are wanting to continue.
00:10:58Mm-hmm.
00:10:58But, you know, we're just taking it day by day and see what happens.
00:11:02And, you know, see how many blueberries he drops on the carpet.
00:11:05Just kidding.
00:11:07So, what does your family think about this?
00:11:09My, my family does not really know anything.
00:11:14Like, they're, yeah.
00:11:15My mom, she's, like, she knew I was going to do something, but she's, like, not totally.
00:11:22Her mom was a nurse.
00:11:23Yeah, my mom was a nurse.
00:11:24Oh, okay.
00:11:25Yeah.
00:11:26So, yeah.
00:11:27So, little by little, we'll see.
00:11:29You assume that she will be coming?
00:11:31I don't know.
00:11:32I have no idea.
00:11:33Like, it would be great to just stay in, like, a bubble for the rest of our lives, but
00:11:36that's not reality.
00:11:39Right?
00:11:40Yeah, it's true.
00:11:40The bubble's growing today.
00:11:42Yeah.
00:11:43All right, I'm gonna run to the bathroom really quick.
00:11:45Okay.
00:11:46We'll be here.
00:11:46Okay.
00:11:47Eating the caviar.
00:11:48Yeah, don't eat at all.
00:11:50Oh, don't worry.
00:11:50It'll be here when you get back.
00:11:54So, how's it been living with someone?
00:11:56You've never lived with someone before.
00:11:57I mean, Danielle and I lived at the college house together.
00:12:01She's just...
00:12:02I know.
00:12:03Obviously, the elephant in the room, you guys know, but...
00:12:07And how old she is?
00:12:08Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
00:12:10Yeah.
00:12:10It's been smooth.
00:12:11It's not, we're not getting married tomorrow.
00:12:14Right.
00:12:14Has she been married before?
00:12:16Yeah.
00:12:17Does she have children?
00:12:19Uh-huh.
00:12:20Have you met the children?
00:12:23No.
00:12:24Probably tomorrow.
00:12:25Oh, really?
00:12:26Oh.
00:12:27You think so?
00:12:28Probably, but she's really stressed about that.
00:12:30How old are they?
00:12:32How many are they?
00:12:32Should I ask her that?
00:12:33I don't know...
00:12:34Don't talk about kids.
00:12:35Okay.
00:12:36She doesn't want...
00:12:37We want to get to know each other and like each other and...
00:12:40I'm glad you guys are here.
00:12:43So, how old are they?
00:12:46Don't worry about it.
00:12:47Don't worry about it.
00:12:48All right.
00:12:50I'm just thinking about you and like how life is going to look for you after you leave
00:12:55here.
00:12:56Of course.
00:12:56You know?
00:12:57And I think that...
00:12:57We've talked about that.
00:12:58I think that that really makes a difference, how old the kids are and...
00:13:03Totally.
00:13:03Responsibility.
00:13:04Like where they live and...
00:13:07She's starting a new chapter now.
00:13:09That's kind of why she's here.
00:13:11And we've talked about how I'm not necessarily super happy with work.
00:13:15Okay.
00:13:16How I've kind of been already looking at outlets.
00:13:19Yeah.
00:13:19Am I moving tomorrow?
00:13:20No.
00:13:21I'm not moving tomorrow.
00:13:22Okay.
00:13:22Is she moving tomorrow?
00:13:23No.
00:13:24But, ooh, it's fun.
00:13:25So, you're comfortable?
00:13:26I'm comfortable, yeah.
00:13:27Oh, good.
00:13:28Being upfront and honest about your situations and what you're coming into the relationship
00:13:33with, I think that's all that matters.
00:13:34Exactly.
00:13:35What you're coming in with.
00:13:36Yeah.
00:13:36When I first saw Teresa, I definitely could tell that she was older.
00:13:39I mean, she's beautiful and she's great looking, but I could definitely tell that she's older
00:13:43than John.
00:13:44I actually don't know how old she is, but he's never dated anyone that I believe to be this
00:13:51much older.
00:13:52I wish that we had maybe found out a little more of the age difference, um, up front.
00:14:00In the back.
00:14:02Obviously, she has children and I think the fact that she didn't bring that up to us in
00:14:06the kind of conversation is a little, um, off-putting to me, I think.
00:14:10I would have liked for her to have shared that information with us.
00:14:14I think it would just make us feel more comfortable with the relationship if we did have these
00:14:18unanswered questions.
00:14:20I hope it works out well for them, but it's weird.
00:14:23It's weird.
00:14:38It's fine.
00:14:41It's okay.
00:14:43You want to come a little closer to me?
00:14:45No.
00:14:46No, this is good.
00:14:49I don't want to be close.
00:14:51This is good.
00:14:54Please, please, please.
00:14:56I am.
00:14:57I am.
00:15:01I don't know.
00:15:03Oh, my God.
00:15:04It's both my parents.
00:15:05It's both my parents.
00:15:10Hi.
00:15:11Hello.
00:15:12This is Derek.
00:15:14Hi.
00:15:14Well, I'll shake your hand first.
00:15:15How are you doing?
00:15:16Pleasure.
00:15:16Nice to meet you, Derek.
00:15:18I do.
00:15:19Hey, how's it going?
00:15:20Oh, my God.
00:15:20Nice to meet you.
00:15:21Pleasure.
00:15:21Nice to meet you.
00:15:22Nice to meet you.
00:15:22Hey, how's it going?
00:15:22Yeah, you too.
00:15:22Absolutely.
00:15:23I was sitting here like, oh, my.
00:15:25I was freaking out.
00:15:26Have a seat.
00:15:26Have a seat.
00:15:27Wow, we're really coordinating our outfits here.
00:15:30We are.
00:15:30This is crazy.
00:15:31Man, it's so nice to meet y'all.
00:15:32Nice to meet you.
00:15:33Absolutely.
00:15:34Seeing both of you guys together is definitely a surprise,
00:15:37I would say.
00:15:39Okay.
00:15:39All right.
00:15:39Well, that's good.
00:15:40That's good.
00:15:40Yeah.
00:15:41It's a good surprise.
00:15:43The last time I've seen both of my parents sitting together like that
00:15:45is when I've gotten into the most trouble of my life in high school.
00:15:48I know both of my parents, particularly with my dad, will be skeptical.
00:15:52Of the relationship and of the environment that this relationship kind of fostered in.
00:15:57Um, so I'm just hoping that I can show him like how much Derek really means to me and how,
00:16:02like, Derek is a great guy and I just want him to see that too.
00:16:05So I have to ask, what prompted you to try and meet someone in, in this fashion?
00:16:12Well, first and foremost, I obviously cared so much for your daughter.
00:16:17So you guys have done a phenomenal job.
00:16:19So I wanted to commend you for that.
00:16:21Um, I just felt the way things were going previously dating, they just weren't working.
00:16:26Okay.
00:16:27Um, and I felt like I was repeating some of the same mistakes, just a different person.
00:16:32There's a common denominator.
00:16:33It's me.
00:16:34So what's going on?
00:16:35What do I need to dive into?
00:16:37And I have, you know, a better understanding of myself.
00:16:39So what, what are the quirky things that you've noticed about each other or things that you didn't expect?
00:16:46There's nothing really out of, out of the ordinary.
00:16:50Like she's very clean, which is.
00:16:53Really?
00:16:54Oh, is she, is she putting on?
00:16:56Say something.
00:16:57Like what?
00:16:58Okay.
00:16:59That's a different conversation.
00:17:01I am clean.
00:17:02Okay.
00:17:03So if you guys decide that you, you know, want to continue a relationship, what are your, what are your
00:17:10ideas on how to make that work?
00:17:11Right.
00:17:12Yeah.
00:17:13Um, so this is something, I mean, we haven't really talked about.
00:17:15I'm the more flexible one because of course, um, I'm younger than Derek.
00:17:21Uh, okay.
00:17:22By how much?
00:17:23I'm curious.
00:17:24Um, quite a bit.
00:17:28Um.
00:17:30So I'm 43.
00:17:33Okay.
00:17:35You look good for 43.
00:17:37Yeah.
00:17:38And so we didn't know each other's ages.
00:17:40That was sick.
00:17:41Wow.
00:17:41Okay.
00:17:41I would never have thought you're 43.
00:17:43Yeah.
00:17:44I didn't have any idea.
00:17:45I was shocked.
00:17:46No.
00:17:46I was shocked.
00:17:47Do you have any concerns about Pfeiffer's age?
00:17:50I'm accepting the generational gap.
00:17:52I just know that there are going to be some differences.
00:17:55Mm-hmm.
00:17:55Yeah.
00:17:56As long as we're both open.
00:17:57Yeah.
00:17:57That was, that was my biggest concern.
00:17:59And so right now it's like, let's build during the bubble and continue to get to know each
00:18:03other.
00:18:03So when we do have the challenges, then we can rely on that.
00:18:07So.
00:18:07Yeah.
00:18:08Um, so Derek has two children as well.
00:18:14Um, but one of the things that, I mean, drew me to Derek was, you guys know I want a
00:18:18big
00:18:19family.
00:18:19Yeah.
00:18:19Like a bunch of kids.
00:18:21Um, and so he already has that maturity and that understanding of like what it takes,
00:18:27you know, to raise children.
00:18:29Um, and he does.
00:18:30How old are your children?
00:18:3115 and five.
00:18:33Okay.
00:18:33Wow.
00:18:33Wow.
00:18:34That's a big gap.
00:18:34Okay.
00:18:34I know.
00:18:35Okay.
00:18:37Primarily I was looking for somebody who had their, like had their life together.
00:18:42Who's mature, who is open-minded and not judgmental and understanding and like meets me where I'm
00:18:49at in life.
00:18:50Um, I hold you in such a high regard and such a high respect.
00:18:54Um, and it's like, yeah, like I'm like proud to be with somebody who is, like has done so
00:19:01much and accomplished so much.
00:19:03Um, but still is like a very genuine, down to earth, authentic person.
00:19:07Family is the most important thing and love and showing that.
00:19:11So it's, it's flowing smoothly.
00:19:13Okay.
00:19:13Yeah.
00:19:14Yeah.
00:19:14Yeah.
00:19:14That's important stuff.
00:19:15Absolutely.
00:19:16Yeah.
00:19:16Could we have a chat as well?
00:19:17Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:19:18Absolutely.
00:19:19All right.
00:19:23Okay, so fill me in.
00:19:25About what?
00:19:26Like everything or how I'm feeling or what?
00:19:28How are you feeling?
00:19:29How?
00:19:29I feel great.
00:19:30And it sounds like ridiculous kind of.
00:19:33Um, but like we have been so lucky.
00:19:36Like we have been, we have had the best experience.
00:19:38We have had, like literally like no arguments, no fights.
00:19:44Being 23 and potentially having two immediate children.
00:19:51Yeah.
00:19:52I mean, like it is, it is what it is, I guess.
00:19:56And you hated babysitting.
00:19:58And I was bad at babysitting, which I haven't told him that.
00:20:01I haven't even told him that I did babysit.
00:20:04In this setting, how much can you know about a person?
00:20:06But the ease between the two of you, like, it's actually unusual for her to be that comfortable.
00:20:15That's like a big thing.
00:20:17Yeah.
00:20:18I mean, you know, your daughter, obviously, she'll get worked up and I'm like, just roll,
00:20:23you know, with the punches a little bit.
00:20:24It'll be fine.
00:20:26But her mind will just take off.
00:20:29Yeah.
00:20:29You know?
00:20:30So it'll be, it'll be interesting.
00:20:32Yeah.
00:20:32To see like how this unfolds.
00:20:34When Pfeiffer sets her mind to something, she does it.
00:20:38And it may not, it may not be easy, but if the relationship is important to her and she
00:20:46loves Derek, she will make this situation work.
00:20:53I think it's like joy that, I know this is a weird way to express joy, but when you can
00:21:07get to a place where you trust your kid, you feel so fortunate.
00:21:16So when you're 40.
00:21:18Yep.
00:21:19And he's 60.
00:21:20Mm-hmm.
00:21:21Do you have worries or concerns about that?
00:21:23Or when he, you know, you're 50 and he's 70?
00:21:26Um, I mean, that's a great question.
00:21:29I know it's hard because I've never done this in my life, but like live like day by day.
00:21:33But yeah, I mean, it is, it's kind of funny.
00:21:37Very surreal.
00:21:39Yeah.
00:21:40They seem to have a great connection.
00:21:41And frankly, the communication that it seems they have is stronger than I've seen Pfeiffer
00:21:48have with anyone.
00:21:49But this is a little microcosm that isn't the real world.
00:21:52So when you have to deal with the day to day of, you know, children's schedules or,
00:21:58you know, a mom being in the picture, it could be a make or break.
00:22:02It may be too much for either one or both of them.
00:22:06That's a challenge.
00:22:20Hey you.
00:22:21What's up?
00:22:22You wearing your shirt already?
00:22:24I don't know.
00:22:25What if you've seen it?
00:22:26I know.
00:22:26I would wait.
00:22:28Don't worry, I don't have makeup on.
00:22:30How you feeling?
00:22:31I'm excited.
00:22:33Are you?
00:22:34Yeah.
00:22:34Are you nervous?
00:22:35I'm a little nervous.
00:22:36I'm like nervous more, I'm excited more to see who's here.
00:22:40You think I should open the button or leave it?
00:22:44Depends.
00:22:44Mom, okay, who, let's say what would your mom think if you had your shirt unbuttoned like
00:22:49this, basically trying to tempt me?
00:22:51Yeah, that's how.
00:22:52That's how you look at me.
00:23:00You're nervous.
00:23:01No, I'm pretty nervous.
00:23:03I'm not gonna lie.
00:23:04We'll be fine.
00:23:05Look at, look at, look at.
00:23:07You're not gonna lie.
00:23:07Holy shit.
00:23:09My God.
00:23:10You crazy girls.
00:23:15You little liar.
00:23:19Hi.
00:23:20Hi, how are you?
00:23:20I'm over here.
00:23:21Nice to meet you.
00:23:22Hey girls.
00:23:24Hi.
00:23:26Where is everyone from?
00:23:28I'm so happy you're here.
00:23:28I'm from New Jersey.
00:23:30Okay.
00:23:30We met in college.
00:23:32I'm from San Diego.
00:23:34Okay.
00:23:34High school.
00:23:35Your makeup looks good.
00:23:36Your face looks good.
00:23:37Thanks.
00:23:40Yeah.
00:23:41Okay.
00:23:42How was your travels here?
00:23:44Good.
00:23:46What does the bracelet say?
00:23:47My daughter made this for me like years ago.
00:23:50Just getting straight into it.
00:23:52How old are your kids?
00:23:5414 and 12.
00:23:5514 and 12.
00:23:5614 and 12.
00:24:00Sorry.
00:24:01I'm getting side-eyed over here.
00:24:03I'm like, oh.
00:24:04No, I just, I just like to look.
00:24:06Gotcha.
00:24:06I like to observe.
00:24:09I mean, I know that the judgments aren't being made,
00:24:11and it's really hard to just stand there and act normal
00:24:15and try and prove myself.
00:24:17But I honestly don't think that my friends have ever seen me
00:24:20with somebody who is a good candidate,
00:24:24and I think he's, he's in the running.
00:24:26I am going to become a therapist,
00:24:28so your, your head might get shrinked a little bit.
00:24:30Yeah.
00:24:31I want to know about, like, your past relationship.
00:24:35Which one?
00:24:36The mother of my children.
00:24:37Give them all to me.
00:24:39Wait, how many baby moms do you have?
00:24:40We can, we can start with the mother of your children.
00:24:42So it's, it's, it's just one.
00:24:44It just didn't work out.
00:24:45I was young, so.
00:24:47How old were you?
00:24:4722.
00:24:48Okay.
00:24:48When I had my first daughter.
00:24:50And.
00:24:50So my age.
00:24:50Yeah, so.
00:24:51Our age.
00:24:52Our age.
00:24:53Yeah.
00:24:53Yeah.
00:24:54Um, she's an amazing mom.
00:24:57We still have a really good relationship.
00:24:58We do birthdays, holidays.
00:25:00I understand that.
00:25:02I want to hear it though, from like her side.
00:25:05I'm sorry, but like men and women have like very different sides.
00:25:08I would, I would honestly, and I'm not just bullshitting you,
00:25:11like I would be surprised if she said anything besides what I just said.
00:25:15Yeah.
00:25:16How old are you?
00:25:17Sorry.
00:25:1738.
00:25:19Okay.
00:25:22Yeah.
00:25:23Okay.
00:25:23How do you feel about dating younger?
00:25:26So I was a little surprised when I found out her age.
00:25:30Didn't know ages, anything like that.
00:25:32It was just strictly based off of like connection and what we told each other.
00:25:37I feel like we're great.
00:25:38Yeah.
00:25:38We're great roommates.
00:25:39We're having a good time.
00:25:41Maybe this is like a relationship.
00:25:43It's not a roommate situation.
00:25:46That's so true.
00:25:48What's the next question?
00:25:50No.
00:25:51There's no other question.
00:25:53Oh my God.
00:25:55I don't know who those music are.
00:25:57Oh my God.
00:25:57I don't know who those music are.
00:25:57These are his friends.
00:25:58Those are big.
00:25:58What's up?
00:25:59How we doing?
00:26:00Yo, how's it?
00:26:01Hey dude.
00:26:02Did you get you out there?
00:26:03Oh.
00:26:05Hi dude.
00:26:06Hey.
00:26:06Nice to meet you.
00:26:07Oh, how we doing?
00:26:09I'm wearing the shirt.
00:26:09Yeah, I gotta tell you though.
00:26:12Hey.
00:26:13Nice to meet you.
00:26:14How you meet?
00:26:15Nice to meet you.
00:26:16Nice to meet you.
00:26:16Nice to meet you.
00:26:18Nice to meet you.
00:26:24So this is what you've been up to.
00:26:26Yeah.
00:26:26Yeah, that's why I have not responded to the group chat.
00:26:29Yeah.
00:26:29Really?
00:26:30So you have been getting the message.
00:26:31You said, you know, try and find a long distance thing.
00:26:35He's a big part of the reason why I'm here.
00:26:37Like, he was one of the ones pushing me,
00:26:39and I only told a handful of people, like,
00:26:41Rob, you didn't even know I was doing this.
00:26:42I didn't know I knew.
00:26:43Well, you guys missed this part.
00:26:45We don't know each other's ages at the retreat.
00:26:47You don't have your cell phone.
00:26:48Do you guys know each other's ages right now?
00:26:50We do.
00:26:50Okay, I got a couple questions.
00:26:53Don't worry.
00:26:53We'll get there.
00:26:54We'll get there.
00:26:55So how do you guys know you guys wanted to be with each other?
00:26:59How did that happen?
00:27:01Prior to learning his age, I was like,
00:27:04this guy's good.
00:27:06He's cool.
00:27:06He knows what's up.
00:27:07A big thing that I wanted going into this
00:27:11but didn't really think was possible was I was like,
00:27:13please, God, just send me, like,
00:27:15a somewhat emotionally mature man
00:27:18or emotionally intelligent.
00:27:21Yeah.
00:27:22Two thumbs up there.
00:27:23Two thumbs up.
00:27:24Yeah.
00:27:25The initial connection was fun, playful,
00:27:28and now we both let our guard down a little bit.
00:27:31Yeah.
00:27:31It's been good.
00:27:32As you spend more and more time together
00:27:34and you're living together,
00:27:35you really can't hide any part of your personality.
00:27:39Yeah.
00:27:39These guys know they're married.
00:27:41There's no getting away.
00:27:43Hey, you want to grab a drink over here real quick?
00:27:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:48You may need some Botox.
00:27:51Nina?
00:27:51Sorry.
00:27:52So how old is she?
00:27:5422.
00:27:57I love us both.
00:28:00I love us both.
00:28:01Hold on.
00:28:01Here you go.
00:28:01Thank you, sir.
00:28:03I appreciate it.
00:28:03Pleasure doing business with you.
00:28:05By the way, I nailed it was that she was blonde
00:28:07and that she was 25 to 22 years old.
00:28:10Guy's consistent.
00:28:12You know, I'll just say that he's very consistent.
00:28:14Let's just be clear, though.
00:28:16I was forced into the other side,
00:28:18so I had to guess that she was older and brunette.
00:28:21But 22?
00:28:23That's tough.
00:28:23That's a big gap.
00:28:25Let me guess.
00:28:26She's really mature.
00:28:27Head time.
00:28:32What the?
00:28:34Does she have a job?
00:28:36She does.
00:28:36She does PR, social media, marketing.
00:28:40Okay.
00:28:40I'm happy you're enjoying yourself.
00:28:42You're immersing yourself in this experience and all that.
00:28:45But, like, first thing, like, you know, in real life,
00:28:49got the bar back home, got the girls back home.
00:28:52I mean, it's all things that we have started to have
00:28:55those conversations.
00:28:56Yeah.
00:28:56And, you know, I think my biggest thing is you...
00:29:01You gotta first have the hard conversation of, like,
00:29:04would we be open to having a long-distance relationship?
00:29:07And we've talked about that.
00:29:09We've talked about the long distance.
00:29:10And, I mean, like, you know, we've talked about it.
00:29:12Like, I don't need...
00:29:13The girls are 14 and 12 now.
00:29:15Like, I don't need a step-mom, you know?
00:29:17It's almost like big sister vibes.
00:29:19There's someone that I can add to the tripod that we have.
00:29:22Well...
00:29:22Yeah.
00:29:23It pretty much does that.
00:29:25Um, but no, uh...
00:29:27There's no...
00:29:28Like, I told her, there's no, like, pressure to be that.
00:29:31So I think that takes a little bit off when it comes to the age thing.
00:29:34Yeah.
00:29:35So look, man, I'm...
00:29:37I mean, she seems really cool, a little fun.
00:29:40Yeah.
00:29:40She just can't rent a car to drive out to.
00:29:42No!
00:29:43I'll rent the car.
00:29:44Okay.
00:29:45Put it in my name.
00:29:46How do you feel about the whole kid thing?
00:29:48The kid thing?
00:29:50Okay, wait.
00:29:50I'm sorry, but you're not ready to be a step-mom.
00:29:52Step-mom, lovely.
00:29:55I've always felt like a weird, um, a responsibility, um, like, as, like, a big sister a lot of the
00:30:03times to younger girls.
00:30:04Yeah.
00:30:04So it's not like that's, like, my, what's the word?
00:30:07That's not my M.O. here.
00:30:08I understand where you're coming from with, like, the whole big sister vibe, but these are his children, Libby.
00:30:14It's not like a, ooh, like, big sister vibe.
00:30:17It's like, no, like, you're hurting his dad, like, their dad.
00:30:20I'm not trying to step in and tell anybody that I'm mommy or I'm step-mommy or I'm big sister
00:30:24or this, that, whatever.
00:30:25Like, I'm not trying to do that.
00:30:27But for me, I've learned that the things that make it kind of, like, hard to navigate, like, the fact
00:30:32that he has kids and the fact that he's older have been all the reasons that I like him and
00:30:37that make him the person that he is.
00:30:39Yeah.
00:30:39And that finally are, like, the emotionally intelligent man that I've been looking for.
00:30:44I think Libby has matured.
00:30:45I feel like even just the way she's speaking to us, like, as we were sitting there, I was like,
00:30:50wait.
00:30:50Who is this?
00:30:51I don't know who I'm talking to, really.
00:30:53But I do think that Libby's kind of wearing these, like, rose-colored glasses and having this positive outlook on
00:30:59what this will look like outside of this experience.
00:31:02She's not being realistic, in my opinion.
00:31:04Because, like, what are we doing?
00:31:06This is, like, a bubble that she's in that, like, needs to be popped.
00:31:10Look, I know all your concerns would be valid.
00:31:14And trust me, the concerns that you're having are things that have already went through my mind.
00:31:19And all of that could come to fruition.
00:31:21Like, I've been down this road a time or two.
00:31:23But honestly, it really was based off of did we have, like, chemistry and the things that, like, you would
00:31:31be saying to me right now that you are the same concerns that I had.
00:31:34And I just took it day by day.
00:31:36And I was very vocal with her about that.
00:31:39I'm like, look, like, I love this.
00:31:41And I've been in these situations where it's fun, but it's only fun until it's not fun.
00:31:46And when it's not fun, then it's the difficult and hard conversations.
00:31:49I just, I just, I, I don't know.
00:31:51I think it's been real, real tough.
00:31:54You got a lot, you got a lot going on there, man.
00:31:56You got, you got, I mean, she's young.
00:31:58Hey, let the man live.
00:32:00Oh, he's been living.
00:32:02He's been living for a long time.
00:32:05He's been living for a long time.
00:32:0616 years longer than her.
00:32:07Yeah.
00:32:12Don't be so anxious.
00:32:15You can't see the future.
00:32:22Don't be so mad that you're just fake.
00:32:26Oh, she's, oh, I love this.
00:32:28Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.
00:32:33Don't cry now, don't cry.
00:32:34Hiya.
00:32:36This is Leah.
00:32:37So you are a hugger.
00:32:37And this is Nina.
00:32:39Great to meet you.
00:32:42I think this is the time that I needed a piece of home more than anything.
00:32:46So I'm happy.
00:32:47I can't believe it.
00:32:48Are you happy it's me?
00:32:49Yeah.
00:32:50I mean, I had a...
00:32:50I'm happy it's you.
00:32:54Where are you from?
00:32:55California.
00:32:56Oh.
00:32:56So originally Bakersfield, but I travel, so I'm a flight attendant.
00:32:59Oh, okay.
00:33:00So I travel for a living.
00:33:01I think the hardest thing for us has been trying to really understand what our normal
00:33:05routines are and how we fit into that.
00:33:08And then also...
00:33:08And it's hard here.
00:33:09It takes time.
00:33:11Yeah.
00:33:11I mean, this probably has been like fun.
00:33:14And, you know...
00:33:15It's been fun, but I...
00:33:17Yeah.
00:33:17It's been, you know...
00:33:18It's been a lot.
00:33:18We haven't just gotten to where we are today.
00:33:20I think she was worried about the age gap.
00:33:23Obviously, you don't know her age yet.
00:33:24I don't know how old you are.
00:33:25She looks like she's 30, probably, at the most.
00:33:29I love that.
00:33:30Yeah.
00:33:31I'll take it.
00:33:32Maybe add 10 years.
00:33:34Really?
00:33:35Plus one.
00:33:38Oh, my God.
00:33:38I'm 41.
00:33:40Wow.
00:33:41You don't look it at all.
00:33:44So how do you feel about him being 26?
00:33:46As long as he's ready for me, I'm good with it.
00:33:50I know he is mature for his age.
00:33:52But I don't know about, like, a 41-year-old woman,
00:33:56what would serve you if you would see him that mature.
00:33:59I don't know.
00:34:00I cannot...
00:34:00I love it.
00:34:00That I don't know.
00:34:02That is up to you.
00:34:04You guys look happy.
00:34:06You look happy together, mama.
00:34:08Yeah.
00:34:09I have been praying for God to reveal the person for Christopher.
00:34:15I don't know if it's you or not.
00:34:17Yeah.
00:34:18You know?
00:34:18Yeah.
00:34:19Time will talk.
00:34:20God will let us know.
00:34:23All right.
00:34:24I just want to thank you again for coming out to support Chris.
00:34:28But I'm going to head back to the apartment now.
00:34:30So I'll give you guys some time to chat.
00:34:34And you're welcome.
00:34:35But I'm going to give you a hug before we leave, okay?
00:34:39Fine, I'll come this way.
00:34:40So lovely to meet you.
00:34:43You're wonderful.
00:34:44I love you.
00:34:47So what do we do now?
00:34:49We're going to talk.
00:34:51Well, you look like you're very happy with her.
00:34:56So, it's a lot.
00:34:57This has been a lot.
00:35:00I want you to see me for what I've really been dealing with.
00:35:04And I want you to tell me if this is normal.
00:35:06And if this is how a relationship is supposed to go.
00:35:09Or I'm just trying to find positive and something that's really been a lot on me.
00:35:16Okay.
00:35:17Everything was easy until we moved in together.
00:35:21That's the truth.
00:35:23First, you got to communicate about every little thing that is bothering you.
00:35:27You need to be yourself.
00:35:28How do we get on the same routines when she wants to spend every single moment with me and I
00:35:35want to go to the gym.
00:35:36I want to take a shower.
00:36:06Well, you don't have to be together all the time, do you?
00:36:09Absolutely.
00:36:10Absolutely.
00:36:10Can you imagine?
00:36:11Absolutely.
00:36:11It's not going to be easy for her either.
00:36:13Yeah.
00:36:14Now, it doesn't bother you that she's 41 years old?
00:36:17But, like, what about the children?
00:36:21Well, I'm ready to have kids.
00:36:22You're ready to have kids?
00:36:23Is she ready to have kids right away?
00:36:25The thing is, you want your relationship to be strong before you have kids.
00:36:31Yeah.
00:36:32Kids change your whole life.
00:36:33Yeah, exactly.
00:36:33That's the other.
00:36:34It's not about the age.
00:36:35No, we have to be super strong before we even think about kids.
00:36:38That's true.
00:36:39I know you want to be ready, but you can't force it.
00:36:42You really haven't had a long-term relationship yet.
00:36:46You haven't.
00:36:47Yeah.
00:36:48So you really don't know.
00:36:50I think I'm ready.
00:36:52I want to be ready.
00:36:53Is it the fact that I'm not ready?
00:36:54Is it the fact that I'm too immature or I'm too...
00:36:57I don't know.
00:36:59You need to talk about all of it, especially now.
00:37:02Especially if you're trying to make a decision that should you stay together or not.
00:37:07It's just so hard, and I don't know if it's supposed to be this hard.
00:37:10Why is it so hard?
00:37:11It's not supposed to be that hard.
00:37:13It's supposed to be easier.
00:37:15Like, especially in a new relationship.
00:37:18Like, the beginning should be much easier.
00:37:32Like, I'm free.
00:37:40I'm free.
00:37:47I'm free.
00:37:50moment with her then you're hurting her i look i feel like it's killing you like it's really
00:37:57bothering you a lot if you cannot work these things through then it's not gonna work
00:38:07i'm sorry to tell you this
00:38:23i just want to say i'm like really proud of you for doing this like i know that this was
00:38:26like
00:38:27a scary thing for you now i'm like i'm i'm a little nervous yeah i am too
00:38:37is that your mom and dad is that your mom and dad
00:38:45hey hey how you doing hey this is yeah you guys look amazing vanessa these are my parents how
00:38:55are you vanessa you've been enjoying your day wow yes i'm happy now that you guys are here
00:39:00how's your how are you doing good good everything's good how about you man you've
00:39:04had a couple of adventurous weeks yeah yeah it's been uh it's been quite the road so have you
00:39:10enjoyed this whole experience yeah it's been good how about your experience i met her and i just
00:39:15weren't really expecting anything to you know come about but uh now we're kind of in this trial phase
00:39:21and figuring out the ins and outs of life and as you know i don't really right date this is
00:39:29a great
00:39:31one of the things that we're going to talk about and let people meet his family and friends so he
00:39:33was
00:39:34very nervous about me meeting you which made me a little nervous but you guys are delightful so i'm
00:39:39glad that you're here oh go on so my question is yes please ask yeah that's good i mean he's
00:39:47in dallas
00:39:48you are yes ohio have you talked about it i mean what are you guys gonna do moving forward we're
00:39:57trying
00:39:57to figure out like what this looks like for him yeah i would uh yeah have you contemplated the
00:40:03challenges of a long distance relationship so i have not done a long distance relationship i know
00:40:08he has it's serious it's serious like we're still exploring it so like just because we're meeting today
00:40:15like we're not gonna get married and have triplets tomorrow you know what i mean so like i don't i
00:40:19hope
00:40:20not no no no but triplets would be cute but no just kidding we're just like navigating this right now
00:40:26you know like just because this we're just trying to figure this out you know and trying to get some
00:40:32clarity on it yeah it's a complicated thing and relationships are a complicated thing there's
00:40:37always challenges you know yes right and you know again you're his age you know this well actually
00:40:45we're not the same age but thank you for thinking that can i ask how old do you think i
00:40:51am oh boy it's
00:40:53okay you are really that's right mom already knows mom's already onto it i'm a little bit older than him
00:41:06and that was a concern for him yeah so i'm 20 years older than logan really see i did not
00:41:18put you there
00:41:19i would thank you thank you i wouldn't have gas thank you so so we not only do we have
00:41:26the distance
00:41:26challenge but we have a gap challenge how do you feel about that i don't know honestly
00:41:36i mean my friends are all starting to have grandkids
00:41:41i don't know i i mean like i'm not against that but that would be his decision all right i
00:41:47mean i've told
00:41:47you i i've told you guys recently i don't know if i want to have kids you know that's a
00:41:51lot of sage
00:41:52i think my mom i think deep down i think she does want grandkids the age gap with vanessa challenges
00:41:58that you know at the end of the day i know it's my journey and in my life but do
00:42:04i want those things
00:42:05long term that i thought i used to want how old is she gonna be you know when i in
00:42:1020 years from now
00:42:11how old am i gonna be it's scary to think about regardless of the distance regardless of our age
00:42:21like i know like he comes from a good foundation
00:42:29i'm gonna go to the restroom okay okay i'll be right back it's good to see you guys so nice
00:42:36nice one yeah yeah so when when you uh you tell me you tell me where you're at
00:42:45i really you know we have a we have a really strong connection you know obviously yeah people see that
00:42:51but like she's also older and mature where she she knows when she sees herself doing something and
00:42:59talks about it and i'm still discovering right right she's a little more self-aware 100 yeah
00:43:05now here's the other side of that hit me if you're going to do the kid thing that's that's
00:43:12yeah that's going to be how it's taste yeah yeah and that's something you need to think about
00:43:20i've told you guys i'm in a place where i you know i don't know if i want to have
00:43:24kids
00:43:24i thought you wanted four there was a time when you said you wanted there was there was a time
00:43:30but
00:43:30you know lately listen you you say that but you always said i would like to be a dad listen
00:43:37i ain't
00:43:37a kind of bullshit you'd be a pretty good dad you're pretty level-headed you're pretty smart and
00:43:42i don't want to stroke you here but you know you're you're not a bad guy yeah yeah i mean
00:43:48i don't i
00:43:49don't know like i haven't thought that far ahead you know i just if you're moving forward with this
00:43:55woman then it's time to start thinking a little bit ahead you know she's not dilly dallying right
00:44:00right but if there's something really there and you do have a connection i guess it becomes how
00:44:07strong is that connection right her being matured you know and logan i mean she'll have to have a lot
00:44:17of patience but he's getting to the age where he's starting to you know this is when men start to
00:44:23get
00:44:23their together it's not an impossible situation right it's just it is what it is right he's our only son
00:44:31we are a small family basically um it would be nice yeah we have grandkids but we trust logan yeah
00:44:42we're not running his life at this point in time we have a serious connection and i don't know what
00:44:49the fuck what i'm gonna do oh you know we love you no matter what you know that if it's
00:44:55meant to be
00:44:57it will happen believe me you know seeing my parents and vanessa together i'm still in shock
00:45:04i still don't know how to process this i mean there's this woman that i'm falling for that you
00:45:09know when it's on it's like we connect so well but then you know i'm constantly being reminded of
00:45:16all these factors that just are trying to bring this down so it makes us freaking hard
00:45:32home sweet home what a day what a day what a day what a day oh
00:45:42i'm exhausted are you are you relieved like it's over like
00:45:51yeah i'm definitely relieved it's over i feel like even like seeing our friends together like
00:45:56um it's not like the weirdest thing like might be like an age gap your friends have kids mine don't
00:46:03like mine are younger like whatever but it's like i feel like those are people that could interact
00:46:07normally and it like wouldn't be weird do you know what i mean no i would tear it up with
00:46:11them
00:46:11i feel like we would have a real fun night out together yeah you know i could show nina a
00:46:17thing
00:46:17or two yeah like she had the headband ready she was ready to break a sweat today and go in
00:46:22on me
00:46:22yeah you said no she's always she's always ready to fight do they like me do they hate me
00:46:29i would say hate is a strong word yeah um but i would say that they are really real with
00:46:36me
00:46:36and um they asked me some hard-hitting questions that i think were important to bring to light
00:46:45before we move forward oh yeah like what i mean they definitely were like thrown off by the kids thing
00:46:53they were like libby you're 22 i don't think you're ready to be a stepmom blah blah blah blah and
00:47:00so
00:47:01to that point i think if you kind of look at it for what it is it sounds like um
00:47:07a little bit um nuts
00:47:11no it's a lot to unpack like you know i'm trying to catch them up to speed of like what
00:47:17we've actually
00:47:17been doing yeah but you did good you did great yeah no your friends your friends seem i mean if
00:47:24i those are like my real guy friends and if i'm happy they're happy for me will they ask questions
00:47:30along the way like sure you know like you know i can see the look in the mirror's face like
00:47:34i know
00:47:35what he's about to ask and i'm like i know what you're gonna say i know what your concerns are
00:47:39what do you say what was his concerns no it's just like you know do you what happens after this
00:47:46you
00:47:46know with the girls and the long distance and all that like how does how do the logistics work and
00:47:53i'm like you know those are things that we're still sorting through i don't know that we're going to
00:47:58like win everyone over with our relationship the first meeting it's definitely going to take time and
00:48:04one conversation i think it went as good as it could for you know that for the first time
00:48:14i definitely just in my feels tonight i just you're always here i know i've definitely been in my
00:48:21feels a little bit i think it's just because to have our friends be a little bit of a piece
00:48:27of
00:48:27this experience i just think yeah like it means a lot like i wouldn't i wouldn't be doing this if
00:48:33it
00:48:33wasn't for amir i officiated their wedding so like you know having him there today felt like maybe that
00:48:42was the start of him being a part of you know my forever love story i'm very very thankful and
00:48:51lucky
00:48:51and i feel very blessed tonight my heart is definitely full i'll probably sleep tonight finally
00:49:00i'll sleep good tonight no i don't want to sleep i'm sorry yeah no more woosah
00:49:11your parents are so cool so chill
00:49:16i feel like you're gonna do something crazy nah we're good we did that yesterday okay with the
00:49:22pillows oh yeah we sleeping together this time yeah i forgive you you forgive me i had a good day
00:49:28yeah it was pretty good i mean the pierce yeah it was okay yeah it was good it was better
00:49:34than i thought
00:49:42i really am feeling of your body when you walk away i really like how you and i are both
00:49:51the same
00:50:00hey what's going on what have you been doing nothing just cleaning and reading i wasn't incredible to
00:50:08see my mom and have her out here and i think she was trying to get to the bottom of
00:50:12like how uh you
00:50:14know how this dynamic would work us moving in where would we move in relocating um
00:50:20um to be honest i think that after talking with my mom i've never been at a point in my
00:50:28life where i'm
00:50:28so unsure to taking the next step you know past this commitment day whatever it's going to be
00:50:38we've built this connection that it means so much to me that it's like i'm trying to
00:50:42do right by you as best as i can so i i see you like not yourself completely and i'm
00:50:52wondering
00:50:52what's going on i don't know i just say it just sucks that we just could never just live in
00:50:57a
00:50:57happy moment you know i'm saying like we had a happy moment with your mom you got to see her
00:51:03we had a good time and then it's like it got masked by your thoughts of thinking about what's
00:51:09going to happen in the future you don't know if you're ready for something to commit well i don't
00:51:13think that's fair i've been struggling putting my thoughts into words and i can't stop saying this
00:51:22enough how much i really care about this if you're so unsure but you want to commit or like i
00:51:29don't do
00:51:29the process i guess what we call it right i just don't i i don't know how those work two
00:51:36and two
00:51:36it's like you're so unsure about me but you like i'm not unsure about i don't know i'm not what
00:51:40i'm
00:51:40what i'm unsure about is the next step and i'm trying not to think about the next time i'm trying
00:51:44to live in the moment i'm trying to take it day by day that's what i'm saying it's interesting to
00:51:49me
00:51:49i don't know i thought we were in a cool space but it's like every time we get to a
00:51:54good space we're not
00:51:55it i'm trying to explain how i feel i just don't know how to without saying something that's going
00:52:00to maybe offend you or like start an argument i don't know i don't want to argue with you just
00:52:04tell me how you feel i think i understand i feel like i'm walking on eggshells i feel like anything
00:52:09i might say like might cause an issue or a problem i i don't want you to feel that way
00:52:13i never want you
00:52:14to feel pressured by me that you have to even date me i like you i enjoy your company remember
00:52:22we literally
00:52:23we started out super fun babe you know and i know we haven't and i i miss it i know
00:52:30you miss it
00:52:30and i just but i want us i mean if we can get there i don't know
00:52:45um but it's just i just want you to just give me a chance
00:52:54i don't like i want you to actually just
00:52:59i want you to be able to relax i want you to be you i just i'm struggling because i
00:53:05i
00:53:07really care about this i really care about you and i'm just exhausted and i'm overwhelmed because
00:53:14i feel like i can't be myself with you because i feel like i can't because i feel like you
00:53:20can't
00:53:20understand when i when i start talking you don't even hear the emotion of what i'm talking about like
00:53:24you you don't hear what i'm actually trying to say like i'm thinking everything that i'm saying
00:53:29and thinking is with us in mind you know and i think that you're taking it like all i'm thinking
00:53:33about is myself and that's the opposite of what i'm thinking i'm putting myself last that's what
00:53:37i'm trying to do at least okay i understand okay it's um
00:53:47i'm just exhausted i'm like mentally exhausted i'm trying my best to explain myself
00:54:05maybe i'm not doing the best job
00:54:19maybe i'm not as mature whatever as i thought but i'm trying to make this work and i'm trying to
00:54:33i'm not i really care about you and i care about us
00:54:37that's not why i'm unsure i'm unsure because i want because i think about the future a lot
00:54:45don't try i'm overwhelmed i'm sorry
00:54:55i don't know what to do
00:55:07i'm sorry i don't like i just i don't wanna i don't want you to ever feel like i'm pressured
00:55:15you i just want us to take it one day at a time and we'll figure it out okay
00:55:23yeah i'm sorry
00:55:40i have to really hold it tight beauty is pain
00:55:51yeah
00:55:54your turn
00:55:55my turn
00:55:56i'm kidding you don't want to do that
00:56:03the bathroom this has been fully taken over
00:56:06oops i'll clean it up it's not a joint bathroom anymore it's just libby's room
00:56:12do you have anything to say about that um what do you need to do your makeup in here
00:56:17i mean i don't even think i've been allowed to step foot in here yet you could step foot
00:56:31it's nice when you have a hairstylist to take care of you
00:56:35do you do your beard here a lot yes i do beards a lot my salon actually we gotta keep
00:56:41it tight um
00:56:43beards for men are like makeup for women you gotta keep it looking good
00:56:48and thank you
00:57:05hey hi how are you i like the dress you look great thanks
00:57:12So, tell me, did you end up going to the baseball game last night?
00:57:16Yeah, it was fun.
00:57:16I'm glad we're good to see you again.
00:57:18Yeah, I figured we'd do something.
00:57:20Yeah.
00:57:20What did Mom say after yesterday?
00:57:25Okay, so both Mom and I were concerned
00:57:28that she didn't volunteer the information to us
00:57:32that she had children.
00:57:34And I think that's a big deal for us.
00:57:37So my next biggest concern,
00:57:39which is if you thought about what your life would look like day-to-day
00:57:42dating a woman who has two children,
00:57:45it wouldn't be three children.
00:57:48See, I didn't even know why the hesitancy in sharing that with us.
00:57:53You know her age, and you know about her children.
00:57:56How old is she?
00:57:58She's 54.
00:58:00She's 54. Okay.
00:58:03Her kids are much closer to my age than her age.
00:58:12The one son is two years older than me.
00:58:18Okay.
00:58:19That's probably her bombshell.
00:58:24I just want to make sure that I feel like you're still young.
00:58:27And I feel like you still have a lot of opportunities that you need to experience in life.
00:58:33And especially given her age, I want you to seriously think about what your life would look like with her
00:58:40as opposed to maybe someone who is not married or hasn't been married before
00:58:44or someone who doesn't have children.
00:58:47Hearing it from your sister, hearing it from someone you really care about,
00:58:50I probably have a little more questions for myself.
00:58:54Is this for real?
00:58:56In real life, is this just a bubble thing?
00:59:00I've got to look myself in the mirror and make sure that I'm being completely honest with myself
00:59:04and make sure I'm being completely honest with Teresa
00:59:08and make sure that we're making the right decision.
00:59:10I hear your voice in the darkness
00:59:13And I see your face
00:59:16And you're not alone
00:59:17Got me high in the back of your mind
00:59:20And I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:24I'm by your side when you call me
00:59:27Cause I just can't bear
00:59:29And you're not alone
00:59:31Got me high in the back of your mind
00:59:34And I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:54I hear your voice in the darkness
00:59:58And I see your face when you're not alone
01:00:02And I don't think I'll make it out alive
01:00:31I hear your voice in the end